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>> what does the deep state feel about tequila? have you done this research? >> i haven't buried >> there is a warm. >> your dvr ises. special report is up next. hey, bret. just be one happy hour with "the five." if president trump talks to veterans about another kind of war and he digs in on trade policy ahead of a big meeting tomorrow. addition by subtraction, the pentagon considers a controversial shift in u.s. troop strength in europe and we will talk exclusively with homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen about immigration and keeping the country safe. this is "special report." ♪ good evening, welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. president trump is digging in a place aggressive and controversial confrontational trade policy tonight as european leaders had to the white house for what could be an explosive session tomorrow. in the meantime, the administration is doling out billions of dollars to try to
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ease some of the pain for america's farmers, caught in the terror of cross fire. correspondent kevin corke from the white house where there is a lot of talk about real trade wars and potential real wars. good evening, kevin. >> you are right. in the week that started seeing pretty high intensity with response to -- an ongoing trade warts and i got the president's attention during his remarks in kansas city. that is ahead of an all too important meeting coming up here at the white house tomorrow. >> i'm honored to be here today in kansas city, missouri. to pay tribute to the men and women who make freedom possible. >> president trump's address to the annual veterans of foreign wars in kansas city provided the perfect platform to introduce the new secretary of veteran affairs, robert wilkie. confirmed 86-9 just this week and charged with managing the sprawling va health care system. >> the only ones that voted
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against him were all of the people, super lefts that are running against me into and a half years. >> as is customary, the president's speech was part political pep talk and part policy preview with mr. trump setting his sights once again on america's trading partners and unfair deals that hurt american workers. >> this is the time to take off the rip-off. we have to do it. other countries have tariffs on us. so when i say i'm going to put tariffs on them, they all start screaming, he's using tariffs! >> ahead of tomorrow's meeting the president seemed to set the tone on twitter tweeting that tariffs were the greatest saying the u.s. was a piggy bank that is being robbed from. later, the agriculture department move to protect american businesses caught in a trade cross fire, unveiling a $12 billion emergency aid
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package that could take effect by labor day designed to help soybean and dairy farmers as well as pork producers and others whether their trade storm. the money will come from a depression era program called the commodity credit corporation created back in 1933 as a financial backstop for farmers. it can borrow up to $30 billion from the u.s. treasury to stabilize, support and protect farm income and prices and it does not require new congressional approval. while it was applauded in some circles others in the president's own party bristled at the idea. senator ron johnson saying farmers want trade, not aid. a refrain echoed by tennessee's bob corker. >> the administration's own policy that are driving these people to a bad place and then you want to provide welfare. >> defense secretary jim mattis said the president's reaction to the iranian government, the all caps tweet, he said it simply
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proves that iran is on the wrong track. but there are those here in washington who wonder if the president's bombast as a prelude to an outreach much in the way we saw, of course plenty on twitter with that summit. >> bret: kevin corke live on the north one, thanks. you do not have to look very far from the shores of the u.s. to find places where religious persecution and discrimination are very real problems. today delegates from dozens of countries met at the state department to talk about it. tonight, religion correspondent lauren green reports on whether that talk will translate into action. >> we need you in this cause. if we are to make progress, we need more people to get in the ring. >> a call to action by the ambassador at the state department's first ever -- >> it's a right given by god and
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it's a beautiful part of our human dignity. >> it is a gathering of foreign ministers, religious leaders and international ngos seeking ways to combat religious oppression and advance freedom around the globe. >> the lack of freedom anywhere is a threat to peace, prosperit prosperity, and stability everywhere. the rights and freedom of religion and the ability to live according to the dictates of your own soul is under attack in the world. this must change. and that's why you're here. >> in me and mark, the genocide of muslims. in nigeria, violent religious divisions have ravaged the country. hundreds have been killed in the last few weeks alone. and in turkey, the detention of american pastor andrew bronson, now on trial for what the u.s. believes are trumped up charges. the representatives from 80 countries with personal stories of persecution. >> john and another teacher were arrested by the chinese border patrol in what appears to be no
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coincidence. >> her husband, a pastor building schools in china, was sentenced to seven years in prison. >> it is clear to us now that john was set up for this arrest. because of his faith driven wor work. and accused of a fabricated crime facilitating organized border crossing. a charge that is usually given to human traffickers. >> they will continue through thursday when vice president mike pence and secretary of state mike pompeo speak. summing up that promoted religious freedom is linked to a decline in terrorism and an increase in economic stability. >> bret: lauren green of this debate don't like state department, thank you. justice department officials say the trump administration and the american civil liberties union have failed to agree on how much time parents should have to decide whether to seek asylum after they are reunited with their children who were separated at the u.s.-mexico border. the administration is proposing a four day waiting period, three days shorter than the aclu
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wants. we are learning more tonight about just how many families are being brought back together. correspondent casey stegall has an update from dallas. >> lawyers representing the u.s. government are back in court today updating a federal judge on the effort to reunite more than 2500 children separated from their families. >> all the parents that are currently detained that have children detained are all being transferred. >> according to court filings, 2,551 children ages 5-17 were separated. of those, more than 1600 are possibly eligible for reunification, more than 870 reunions have already happened. another 538 are approved, but aclu attorneys press the government on a different set of numbers, more than 900 are either not eligible or not yet known, including more than 460 cases where the parent was potentially deported without
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their child. the fury over zero-tolerance has protesters taking to the street, some calling for the abolishment of immigration and customs enforcement. potential democratic presidential candidate, senators kemal harris, elizabeth moran and kirsten gillibrand has suggested dismantling the agency since congress funds it. if president trump vows that would be a dangerous mistake. >> because we have some of the worst drug dealers, terrorists, criminals and icicles up there and they walk in like it's another day in the office. thank goodness for ice. >> in general, illegal border crossings are down compared to recent months, says u.s. customs and border protection. still, this year's numbers are up over last period in june, more than 42,500 apprehensions were made along the southern border compared to more than 21,000 the year before.
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this is the administration moves ahead with its plans to build a border wall. the president showed off eight prototypes this past spring in san diego. the funding of president trump border wall has hit a few snags. mexico continues to refuse to pay for it and at this point, it doesn't look like congress is ready to fully fund it either. >> bret: casey stegall in dallas, thanks. let's talk more about immigration and other subjects with homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen. madam secretary, thank you for being here. >> thank you, my pleasure. >> the court deadline, the 26th, that's two days. we'll be able to make a? >> we are on track to do it. we are working with hhs to reunify all families that are eligible. >> bret: the one that really stuck out was the 463 parents possibly deported without their children. how will you be able to reunite parents with their kids if they've already been deported?
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>> if the parents contact us and they would like to be reunited we of course will work with them. but as you know, the way the process works is the parents always have the choice to take the children with them. these are parents who have made the decision not to bring the children with them and will continue to work with the court to understand how we can best comply with the order. >> bret: what's your biggest challenge with complying? >> to be honest the court cases and laws conflict, so we have gone back as you know through multiple filings and asked tv pra. we have these very arcane details, legal decisions, how did they fit with what this particular judge is asking us to do? >> bret: as you know, obviously this is a political thing. everything is in washington. senator kemal harris waited on this whole deal. >> it is clear when the administration created the zero-tolerance policy that there was never the intention and certainly the design of any system to reunify these children with their parents.
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and so what we have seen over the ensuing weeks as complete pandemonium. >> bret: can you concede that at least the rollout of this was a big mistake, was kind of a logistical screwup? >> we had a plan. i think what we found in the midst of the plan is we had these intervening court cases. it's really impossible for folks to maybe fully recognize this. we really want to protect the children, so we don't want to cut corners. we want to make sure they are going with a parent, we want to make sure they are going with someone who won't cause them any harm. we found 20% were either not parents or had very serious criminal histories. if that continues to demonstrate to us we have to take the time to assure that that parent or guardian or adult is suitable to take care of the child. >> bret: wasn't set up originally as a deterrent? >> it wasn't. it was set up for the sole purpose of enforcing the law. it's against the law to come to the united states between ports
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of entry. so is this president tsai, i don't want to it to exempt class. i don't want -- i want the law to apply equally. anyone that comes across that border illegally needs to have consequences for that illegal entry. >> bret: for capitol hill, do you think there will be a government shutdown over wall funding or a failure to address daca, the issue of daca, or both? >> i can't speak to that in detail. i think there will be a fight. i think the president has been very clear actually on both issues but i think different parts of congress have also been clear. and we will continue to work with them hand in glove to find a package that will work. i think what's really important for congress to continue to do is to look at how to fix the immigration system. the truth that we have should all be true at the same time. we should be able to keep children with their families. >> bret: the hope that that's going to happen before the midterms. >> i like to remain optimistic. i will continue to work with
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them everyday but in the meantime i'm also working very closely with the northern triangle countries, with mexico, and to guatemala twice. i met with the current president, the future president of mexico. we are really trying to find other answers to help these flows that are emanating from these countries to find us on or seek shelter. >> bret: are the current willing to come off the wall funding, something short of that if there is a negotiated deal? >> you know the homeland budget, the last one to be passed here out of the committees, we haven't asked for the 25 billion, which is one part of the discussion. we've asked for a lesser amount but we will continue to work with congress. we would like to build as much wall as we can. we are building the first wall, a new wall that we've had in ten years. the president is pushing forward on his promises. >> bret: at least inside their administration, confident there was going to be a wall? >> we will have a wall, yes. >> bret: whether mexico pays for it or >> we are acting
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stomach asking for appropriation to be appropriated by congress. >> bret: i want to turn to another subject. "wall street journal" had a piece entitled "russian hackers reach u.s. utility control rooms." hackers claimed hundreds of victims in a long running campaign that put them inside control rooms of electric utilities where they could have caused blackouts. they got to the point where they could have thrown the switches. this story was jarring. how much is that happening? >> we actually did just put out a joint bulletin. we are starting to do webinars to help the private sector understand how to mitigate and to recognize the threat. what we saw was targeting a particular industrial control system which manages our grid, manages distribution of energy and in one case we did see access to a very limited distribution asset. it would not have had an effect on the larger grid. nonetheless, it shows us the capability is there.
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so we are going to work hand in glove with department of energy and with private sector partners to make sure we are prepared. >> bret: which country is the best at cyber attacks? russia, iran, china? >> russia we see with very immediate effect. if you will excuse the expression, they are being a bit noisy about it. they are not covering their tracks is viewed much as they used to. china is playing more of a long game. we see them and betting, we see them waiting. they are patient but they are not necessarily that would seem trying to disrupt anything as we see the potential for with the russians. >> bret: the midterm elections 100 days away. quinnipiac came out with a pole. how concerned you about russian interference in 2018, very concerned, 42%. trump administration efforts to protect the election from interference, should be doing more, 62%. is it too late for that? >> i don't think anything is too late. but what i would say is legislation has to be very
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carefully crafted because the responsibilities for the elections first informants firt with the state and local officials. if we have to ensure that they're working with us, that we are providing service to them. but that figure you gave me on the percentage of americans who are concerned, he needs to be higher. we know they have the capability. we know they have the intent. it would be foolish to assume they don't try to disrupt or sew discord in our democracy. >> bret: so that message is not what america heard from the president in helsinki. just take a listen to some of those. >> i hold both countries responsible. i think that the united states has been foolish. i have president putin. he just said it's not russia. i will say this, i don't see any reason why it would be. >> the sentence should have been i don't see any reason why it wouldn't be russia. sort of a double negative. >> getting along with president putin, getting along with russia is a positive, not a negative.
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with that being said, if that doesn't work out, i will be the worst enemy he's ever had. >> bret: and today, madam secretary, the president tweeted "i'm very concerned that russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming election based on the fact that no president has been tougher on russia than me. they will be pushing very hard for the democrats. they definitely don't want trump." there's a lot of mixed messages over the past week and a half. does the president truly believe that russia is going to try to attack the midterm elections? >> the president believes in the intel assessments in the last election and i think the key here is we know they have the capabilities, we know they have the intent. we see it in their foreign influence campaigns and we sought in their attempts to hack the election. we have to be prepared. we will -- dhs will continue to work with state and locals on the election process but we have to be very clear, the capability and the intent of the russians is there. we must prepare for them to attempt to sew discord. >> bret: for people looking at the past week and a half, what
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do you say to them? >> i think he clarified. i think he does and has made clear that he does believe the intel assessment from last year. but that was last year. what i would like to direct your viewers at home and the voters to do is make sure you know what your state is doing. ask them how are you preparing? will i get my provisional ballot, what if i have a question? what do i do? the main thing we can do as a society is make sure that we trust our processes and that our votes counted. >> bret: can the russians change about? >> they have the capability -- we've seen them have the capability in many different critical infrastructure sectors. >> bret: can they change them now? >> if you based on historical capability, we did not see them doing that. >> bret: why not say to states, just go to paper ballots? >> we have. use some sort of method for auditability. paper ballots, another way to ensure your voters that they voted. >> bret: a couple more things,
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i had mike mccall on a few months ago. he said there were terrorist investigations in all 50 states. are there still terrorist investigations in all 50 states? >> there are. the fbi director said that just a few days ago at aspen. unfortunately that's true. we at dhs for tent ten known or suspected terrorists in this country a day. they are very active. >> bret: ten a day trying to get in. >> yes. >> bret: how many attacks do you think dhs and fbi have stopped since president trump has been in office? >> it's tough to quantify. the myriad is what i would say in conjunction with her international partners. some could have been in the homeland. some are interests abroad. we work as a community now. we have about 2,000 people from dhs abroad for just that reason, to make sure that we are connecting the dots and we are also moving towards the national bedding center, which we are excited about because that will bring to bear all the usg has two make sure we have the information to fight the
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terrorists. >> bret: this administration does a lot and when week, sometimes fridays feel like a dog year for monday's, but a few months ago "the new york times" had details of a cabinet meeting where you were said to be the target of the president's anger. a lengthy tirade about securing the border. since you've been sworn into this job, have you ever offered your resignation? >> i have never offered my resignation. as long as i can support the men and women of dhs i will be in this job and serve proudly. >> bret: you've got a lot to do. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you so much for your time. a-determiner >> bret: up next, why moving american troops from one nato country to another could be so controversial. ♪ keeping this tookus safe and protected... you can get comfortable doing the same with yours. preparation h. get comfortable with it. and i don't add up the years. but what i do count on is boost®. delicious boost® high protein nuritional drink
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down a syrian fighter jet today. the israeli military says the plane breached its airspace. as serious as the was over syrian territory as it was flying against islamic state militants. syrian governor, government forces reached the border fence where a u.n. forces deployed at the edge. it is really forces have been on high alert as hamas rockets, the militants launched rockets, incendiary balloons and kites over that border. u.s. ambassador to the united nations as those attacks have been largely ignored by the rest of the world. >> while the international media pays very careful attention to every step israel takes in self-defense, we must not lose sight of the very real damage that is being done to israel from terrorist attacks coming from gaza. >> bret: today israel partially reopens the main cargo crossing route into the gaza strip, which had been closed because of the hamas
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attacks. commercial satellite images indicate north korea has started dismantling key facilities at its main satellite launch site. some analysts say taking down a few structures at that site would not realistically reduce the country's military capabilities or represent a material step towards denuclearization. in may north korea invited foreign journalists to observe the destruction of tunnels at its nuclear testing ground but did not invite -- at least 74 people have been killed as wildfires raged through seaside resorts near the greek capital of athens. authorities say 26 of the dead were groups of families or friends huddled together, some of them clasping hands and hugs. others swim out to sea to try to escape the inferno. some never came back. greece indoors wildfires every year but the blazes that broke out monday are the deadliest to hit the country in decades.
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the u.s. is considering moving around some of its troops in europe and that has a lot of people concerned. national security correspondent jennifer griffin looks at the pros and cons from the pentagon. >> ten days before president trump's inauguration the u.s. army rolled into poland to send a strong message to russia to back off its neighbors following moscow's invasion of ukraine. 1,000 u.s. troops and 80 tanks have served there in a rotational presence since without breaking a 1997 nato agreement that barred permanently basing u.s. or nato troops and former warsaw pact countries. marc theissen, a former speechwriter for george w. bush and donald rumsfeld suggest president trump should go further in the wake of the nato summit saying president trump could strengthen u.s. national security and to silence his critics after last week's helsinki performance with one bold move. "announce he is moving out most u.s. forces currently stationed in germany and send them to
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poland. poland is 1 of 5 nato members that have spent 2% of its gdp on defense. in april, the bolus defense minister asked the pentagon to consider permanently keeping u.s. troops in poland, offering a two billion-dollar incentive while meeting with secretary mattis at the pentagon. u.s. ambassador to nato said the u.s. is considering the request. >> we look at all offers made like that, but no decision is being made right now. but looking at it, yes. >> top u.s. commanders like lieutenant general ben hodges, a russia hawk who pushed for american troops to rotate into poland recently retired as the head of the u.s. army in europe. he says permanently basing u.s. troops in poland instead of germany is a bad idea. >> it would be decades before poland could match what germany provides us. if it's just about infrastructure. it's about intelligence sharing. germany does so much for us that
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doesn't fit neatly under the 2%, if you will. >> another hurdle, placing troops in poland would inevitably anchor russia and perhaps divide nato allies who don't want to provide russia with a pretext for more expansion. >> bret: jennifer griffin at the pentagon. thank you. up next, a democratic senator up for reelection finds himself in a tough spot tonight. we will tell you who it is and what he's facing. ♪ if you're turning 65, you're probably learning about medicare and supplemental insurance. medicare is great, but it doesn't cover everything - only about 80% of your part b medicare costs, which means you may have to pay for the rest. that's where medicare supplement insurance comes in: to help pay for some of what medicare doesn't. learn how an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan,
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one of only two democrats who have agreed to meet with kavanaugh so far is west virginia's joe manchin, who is up for reelection in the fall and facing some unique challenges. peter doocy tells us from west virginia by his opponent -- november opponent considers him in a lose-lose situation. >> democratic senator joe manchin is holding roundtable discussions about whether or not to support president trump supreme court nominee with voters in a state that trump won by 42. >> he's very popular in west virginia. >> republican strategist tell fox if he votes no one brett kavanaugh he upsets voters but if he votes yes he upsets donors so g.o.p. patrick morrissey questions his judgment. >> the longer he waits, the more it's clear that he is only in this to appease his liberal donors and he will make it clear that he will only stand for judge kavanaugh after it's clear that they have the votes.
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>> he's scheduled to meet with kavanaugh. >> critical things are important for west virginia, health care being a big one. >> i hope that he will keep the needs of his constituents in mind and that would be to protect affordable health care. >> others don't care how he comes down on kavanaugh. >> i'm probably going to vote republican anyways. >> morrissey sees health care talk as a stall tactic. >> there is no debate with respect to pre-existing conditions. people want to help those who need assistance the most so he has come up with this fake issue, this scare. >> the traditional crisis network is no hitting him with part of a $1.5 million ad campaign claiming health care concerns aren't original. >> a dishonest talking point he got from the liberal chuck schumer. >> he laughs at suggestions that he's a shill for schumer. >> no one's going to tell me what to do. >> the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell says he wants the kavanaugh confirmation vote
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by october 1st, but if the democrat stall come he's okay with letting that vote slide before right before the november midterms. if that happens vulnerable democrats like senator heitkamp in north dakota, senator tester in montana and senator here in west virginia are going to be stuck in the swamp while the challengers are home on the stump. >> bret: peter doocy in west virginia. thanks. recently said one of two democratic senators we learned indiana democrat joe donnelly will meet with brett kavanaugh august 15th. republicans in georgia are right now suggesting stomach selecting their nominee for governor. that race has been particularly contentious featuring two candidates vying for the program vote. correspondent jonathan serrie reports from athens, georgia. >> casey cagle and ryan kemp are running for governor on similar pro trump platforms but kemp goes into the runoff with an unexpected advantage, a
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surprised tweet from the president last week giving kemp his full and total endorsement. >> it was gasoline on the fire when he endorsed. it's just gone off the charts. our people are excited. >> president trump has made his choice. >> kemp seized on the endorsement with a new tv ad and appeared at a rally with vice president mike pence. >> with trump coming out and saying he's my man, hoping those people that were kind of wondering which way they were going to go prior to tuesday have made their mind up. >> storing it on my touring the state by bus he tried to put it into perspective. >> this is a georgia race and washington insiders are not going to get to pick who the next judge governor of the state of georgia is going to be. >> that message seemed to resonate with supporters at a rally. >> i respect her president, i support him but i disagree with his decision. >> the president can change his mind a lot. maybe four days is enough time to get him on casey cagle's team. >> he tells endorsements from the nra and george's popular
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current governor. but will that be enough to counter the trump factor? >> i think it boils down to who is doing more for the candidates. we were seeing the white house do a lot more for brian kemp than you are seeing the governor do for casey cagle. >> the winner of today's runoff will face democrat stacy abrams in november. despite the highly competitive g.o.p. primary, both kemp and cagle have pledged to appear at a republican unity rally on thursday. >> bret: jonathan serrie live in athens. we will have the results of that race around fox. the dow jumped nearly 200 points today. the s&p 500 rose 13. the nasdaq dropped 1. seven president trump since billions of dollars to farmers to try to ease the damage of trade disputes. we will get reaction from the panel on that and the day's news when we come back. ♪ he got a recommendation for our custom fit orthotic to relieve his foot, knee, or lower back pain,
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ever put together. i was hearing and reading that they have some of the greatest lobbying teams ever put together. >> bret: the president at the vfw today saying he saw a story about -- very negative about him when he said this trump guy, i've got to do something about him. he tweeted out today. "tariffs are the greatest. either country which has treated the united states unfairly on trade negotiates a fair deal, or gets it with tariffs. it's as simple as that and everybody is talking. remember, we are the piggy bank that is being robbed. all will be great." farmers are giving billions of dollars to help feel the pain there that they may be feeling. brian york, chief political correspondent of the "washington examiner" ." and mollie hemingway, senior editor at the federalist. mara, we are told this had been in the works when this whole thing was laid out. maybe not to the extent that they are having to do it. >> human help for the farmers? he said all along i'm going to do whatever it takes to protect
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the farmers. the farmers are an important part of his face. but i was surprised at the pushback he got on this from republicans in congress. ron johnson calling it -- becoming more of a soviet type of economy where commissars decide to get waivers, who gets help. lisa murkowski is saying you're giving it to the farmers, alaska sea food, energy, where does this stop? so trade is one area where donald trump remakes the republican party, he is getting pushback. they don't like the tariffs to begin with and they don't like the fact that he is now doing what they call farm bailout. >> bret: all will be great. >> the president's message in kansas city was we need some time. give me a little time. he's trying to buy time. he's promising that this will work if you just can get the time and indeed the $12 billion relief package is designed as a temporary package. >> bret: doesn't china see that as well?
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>> of course. that's like announcing when you're going to bring the troops out. the $12 million in the temporary relief package until all will be great. if there was a lot of pushback and it was not just the usual republican suspects like bob corker and jeff flake. you had part of the leadership in the senate, pat roberts, john kennedy, a whole bunch of them. so the question is whether they will give the president the kind of patients that he is asking right now. >> first up, i think it -- people need to be reminded that the constitution actually says that congress has the authority to levy traits. its article one, section 8. it's very clear that they are supposed to handle any commerce issues with other countries. so people are just forgetting this and donald trump is using a national security exception to make the case that he gets to do this. it is also true that we have a very serious problem with china and it's something that has gone on for many decades. it's a very uneven situation where they practice intellectual
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property theft, massive subsidies for their corporations. they amass barriers for other people who don't play along with their state-based economy and we haven't seen the senate actually take the leadership role that it should be taking to make sure this isn't a national security threat. so people can complain all they want but the best way to fight this trade war is to have a really good plan for how to handle china's aggression, which is becoming a military dominance issue as well. >> bret: whether they are not explaining it or what, the poll numbers are upside down. the new nbc and "wall street journal" poll supports terms actions on the tariff policy, 26% oppose. the average american 53%. here's lindsey graham. >> i don't know how far you can go with this. i don't know what is wto compliant. china is about to devalue to protect the impact that the tariffs have in china so when you start playing this insurance policy that there will be no pain in tariffs, i'm not so sure
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it's going to work because once you start, where do you stop? >> bret: off this point, there is an imbalance. >> there is a consensus on the imbalance. they steal our technology. a force american companies to have chinese partners. there's a ton of stuff they do wrong, but that's the right question. the wrong answer is tariffs. that's what these republicans are saying. why will tariffs solve the problem? there was an idea. why don't all the asian countries in the united states gang up against china, exclude them from a freak trade pact that was called tpp and donald trump got out of it. >> bret: that is a great point. >> there was an answer. >> bret: 's other say this was the solution so now he has a real problem. >> at least if you're going to follow the term solution, have a focused trade war with china and not against the world, not against canada. >> what he's asking for time for and byron was exactly right, he's asking for time to negotiate bilateral trade dealers don't make deals that will fix this problem.
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>> get out of the big deal which he says are bad for the united states. >> he has not been able to negotiate the trade deal yet. china i think thinks that it can wait this out. they don't have voters like he does and look at those polls. so far he doesn't have a single economist on his side in terms of his view in the trade deficit. >> bret: the chinese calendar looks a little differently as far as waiting it out. last word. >> voters should be concerned about the long-term imitation of china's dominance. it is great to have low-cost televisions. it's also good to have a strong economy that can handle china on the march. >> bret: tell that to the farmers and i will come november. we will see how that is going. we he's headed to iowa on thursday. next up immigration in reaction to my interview with homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen. show me the carfax. start your used car search at the all-new carfax.com.
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>> we had a plan. i think what we found in the midst of the plan is we had these intervening court cases. truly impossible for folks to maybe fully recognize is we really want to protect the children so we don't want to cut corners. we want to make sure they are going with a parent, somebody that won't cause them any harm. and as you know, with the first batch we found 20% were either not parents or had very serious criminal histories. >> bret: talking with homeland security secretary about the family separation and trying to reunite those families as you take a look at the numbers as of yesterday. 879 parents reunited, 538 are in the queue. 463 that may have artie been deported without their children. so there are a lot of questions remaining about this policy and what comes next. we are back with the panel. >> one of the things i thought was interesting from an interview with secretary nielsen was those 463 kids who are here but their parents were deported, she was saying that was at the
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request of the parents to leave without their children, which is just one of these very interesting things about how complex the situation is when people want to come into this country and break laws in order to do so. just in general this is going to be a big election issue. if you have general support for border enforcement among americans. you also saw a recent polls suggesting that democratic base voters are fine with getting rid of ice, immigration and customs and enforcement. so i think we will see much more polarized rhetoric on this and just how the country wants to enforce its borders. >> bret: it is amazing to see how hot this immigration issue is as an electoral issue. it moves both sides. >> it does. it certainly did for donald trump in 2016 and there does seem to be a lot of intensity among the abolish iced democratic base. the sound bite that you played from secretary nielsen was in response to your asking did you really kind of messed up when you rolled this zero-tolerance policy? she couldn't admit that.
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she said we had a plan but they didn't actually have a very good plan for the other side of the issue when it comes time to either deport people or detain them in the united states, what were you going to do if you separated them from the children? >> bret: to her point, in part it's because it's so complex with the law and what congress passed and there's not a uniform -- it is -- they did think it was going to be a deterrent. don't come because you will get separated from her kids. >> they haven't made any progress with the settlement. the biggest barrier. people don't really oppose family detention, but the courts won't let them do it. >> bret: what about immigration is an issue on capitol hill? is there any chance of anything, even scaled back, before the midterms? >> i don't think so. donald trump a said many times he thinks immigration is a great issue for him and the midterms. it activates his base. he's thrilled every time a democrat talks about abolishing
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eyes. most democrats tear their hair out when they hear another democrat talk about that because that's like the worst possible thing for them. when the issue is border security, including maintaining ice, republicans win. when the issue is family separation, and democrats have the support of the majority because most people don't like family separation. >> but both parties benefit from not fixing the problem. this is one of the reasons why it will never get fixed, both because it's a big get out the vote issue for democrats, but on the republican side of things you have a big division between sort of corporate interests that want to see that free flow of immigration versus the base voters who are really wanting rule of law enforcement. >> bret: i want to put up this tweet that really got a lot of attention today, the president saying i'm very concerned that russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming election based on the fact that no president has been tougher on russia than me. they will be pushing very hard for democrats. they definitely don't want from. >> these are not the drones were looking for. >> the administration has made the point with good reason that
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a lot of president trump's policies on russia have been significantly tougher, sending lethal aid to ukraine, pushing nato to spend more on defense. starting work on a new inf noncompliant missile. his policies actually are tougher. >> vladimir putin les mundy said he wanted trump to be president. >> you think that putin has now changed his mind? >> when putin says things i want to hear, i believe every word he says. >> was he telling the truth of the press conference? >> he was trolling the democrats with that. >> more than anything i think that people need to take the message that they need to secure their election. >> that's the point. >> this is something every american -- >> everyone should have paper ballots. >> or other means. a something to make sure they can be hacked. >> the serious thing of any member was how much is happening in the fact they got into the
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electoral grade. >> very scary. about the paper ballots. the iowa caucuses and every four years around there and they tear up little bits of paper. they put them in the basket, they count them up and that's how you do it. >> bret: one iowa caucus waiting for a white pickup truck filled with pieces of paper to make it from des moines to wherever. >> it could have been the rick santorum. >> bret: when we come back, an unusual way to get into the oval office. ♪ little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, ... with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring.
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what pain? with advil ♪ >> bret: finally tonight, while president trump was in kansas city he invited a 94-year-old world war ii veteran on the stage and it was a classic moment. >> is only 94 and the secret service made him walk about 100 yards out of his way, but that's okay. >> i just want to tell you a few things, may i, mr. president? >> i've got time. >> hopefully you will allow me to bring my family into the oval office. >> i started to get a little bit concerned when he was finishing. >> bret: you have to say yes to that end bite, and he did. he invited anybody, really. thanks for inviting us into your home, that is it for this
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"special report." fair, balanced and unafraid. "the story" hosted by my friend martha maccallum starts right now bearing 94. >> martha: do not say no to that man. >> bret: yes is the answer. >> martha: breaking this evening, the president as you know says that mueller, comey and company are pursuing a witch hunt against them and the wife of the former governor of illinois says she agrees with that. if she claims the same team did the same thing to her husband, who as i said was then the governor of illinois who went to prison in part for saying this about his power as governor to pick a senate replacement for then senator barack obama. >> i've got this thing and it's a leap golden and i'm just not giving it up for nothing. >> martha: good evening, welcome to "the story." i martha maccallum. in her first-ever op-ed that came out today, patty writes this. little did we know how truly corrupt the obama era justice