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♪ >> maria: president trump set to hold a town table meeting on prison reform any moment now. we will take you there live. it is one of the few occasions we will hear from the president as he spends the week in new jersey. will he comment on a special meeting with the special counsel bob mueller. when the president speaks we will bring it to you live. stay with us on that. good afternoon. iran is telling north korea to go slow on trusting the u.s. if north korea is listening, should would he be trusting them? welcome, everyone thanks for joining us tote i'm maria bartiromo in today for neil cavuto. this is "your world." as new u.s. sanctions kick in, iran's president is ripping the u.s. in a meeting with north korea's top diplomat. is the goal to get kim jong un to back out of a nuclear deal with president trump? we've got full fox team
coverage today blake burman on how responding to the today meeting and ashley when it comes to iran's oil the u.s. may already be winning. we begin with blake. >> hi there, maria. as you know the trump administration is trying to carve out a deal as it relates to denuclearization of the korean peninsula with north korea. as that is happening, iran is warning north korea that the united states, in their words, cannot be trusted. the iranian leader hasan rouhani meeting earlier this week with a top diplomat from north korea and this was how that meeting was relayed as it comes from iranian state media. one quote: quoting hasan rouhani, quote: the u.s. administration performance in these years has led the country to be considered untrust one way or the other anuntrustworthy andunreliable ad which does not meet any of its obligations it comes as the trump administration has level idea new sanctions against iran and says more sanctions will be coming in 90 days from now on
november 4th. and as the administration says it is open to meeting with iranian leadership. here with the national security advisor john bolton earlier this week. >> they could take up the president's offer to negotiate with them, to give up their ballistic missile and nuclear weapons programs fully and really verifiablably. if iran were really serious, they would come to the table. we will find out whether they're or not. >> rouhani, who is now as we know meeting with the north koreans, maria, though, he has been deeply sceptic call in the recent days of any sort of meeting taking place between iran and the united states. maria? >> maria: blake, thank you. one of iran's biggest oil customers reportedly buying more u.s. crude as u.s. sanctions kick. in fox business network ashley webster with more on that angle. >> maria, this could really really bite us with regard to iran's financial situation. india oil says it is now buying more u.s. oil than it would iranian oil. that's an important development and they are doing this because those sanctions that the u.s. are
going to put in place loom large. they will begin november the 5th. indian oil exports 6.6 million barrels last year. taking a look at the oil chart right there. oil is kind of drifting sideways right now as this all plays out. look at the indian oil imports from 2017. 6.6 million brought in from the u.s. this year up to 06 million barrels while it cuts back on iranian oil. now, let's talk about iran's oil production. it's opec's third largest producer. 3.8 million barrels per day closer to 2 million barrels right now. 50% of that production goes to china and india. so if independent i can't is cutting back on iranian oil. that hurts more than 60% of the -- all of the revenue from exports comes from oil and that, by the way, as we know is really starting to pinch the iranian economy. i want you to take a look at this headline that was in the daily express in the u.k. this week. that say iran's revolution is coming as 100,000 rush to the streets chanting death
to dictator. why is this happening? well, as she sanctions kick in, high levels of unemployment collapses currency, even water shortages are really getting the iranian people upset. we're seeing them also now turning from economics to politics. they are also protesting the regime's views on women's rights, free speech, basic freedoms and maria, we are also getting reports now out of iran that wealthy iranians are starting to stockpiling basic commodities because they fear the economy is only going one way in iran. iran for its part says ignore donald trump and his administration. no one can stop us from taking our oil. as we know the administration by november 5th says it wants zero iranian oil being taken in by any country otherwise the u.s. will impose sanctions. india, and this decision to take in more u.s. oil shows that those sanctions are starting to have an impact. >> >> maria: tough situation
there ashley, thank you so much. ashley webster. does iran have good reason to be information? arnervous. kirk lippold joins me now. thank you for joining us. your reaction to what's taking place in iran right now? >> well, good afternoon, maria. i think what you are seeing is that the unite united states, when we pulled out of the agreement and said we are going to impose sanctions in fact told the iranians that agreement was bad. we're not going to allow you to be the number one state sponsor of terrorism and you need to come back to the table. that agreement was a pathway to a bomb in 10 to 15 years. people realize that and now we are at a point where let's come back, let's talk, and let's have a deal that is verifiable, that is quantity football, and that prevents them from getting that pathway to a bomb. >> maria: how worrying is it that north korea is siding and teeming up with iran to go against the united state states? >> i'm not particularly worried about it. i mean, let's be realistic, maria, neither iran nor
north korea trusted us to begin with. >> maria: right. >> when it comes to nuclear weapons, it has to be a verifiable regime that all countries involved have to do it. if north korea and iran are talking to each other, if there is one thing north korea is going to take away from this is that when it comes to denuclearization, the united states is going to play hard ball. we're going to have to have a verifiable set of steps to denuclearize. and right now, the north koreans are not taking the steps necessary. they're going to have to come up to the table, sit down, and start with the progress to do it or the united states is -- excuse me, continue to keep those sanctions in place with north korea and continue to put the squeeze on the iranian economy as well. >> maria: so lay out the next couple of months for us. what does this look like? are you expecting iran to come back to the negotiating table to try to keep the united states in a nuclear deal? >> no. iran will come back to the negotiating table right now because in their eyes to do
that would mean that they recognized that it was a bad deal. the united states pulling out was, in fact, the right thing to do. they view it as a saving face method. so the iranians are going to take several months doing nothing before they would begin to create the conditions by which in a face saving measure they could come back to the negotiating table and renegotiate that treat were with economic sanctions being relieved. by the same token, the north koreans are going to be observing this. they know that the united states is going to continue to demand that they denuclearize. when you look at the second thing that's the shadow over all of this, look at the pressure we are putting on china economically with the tariffs. that is playing in to this as well because china is the backer for north korea's nuclear program. they aided and abetted it for years and now it's time for that price to be paid as well. >> maria: north korea is denouncing the united states for what it's calling, quote: outdating acting script. you think the president's
policies are working? >> clearly they are working. the iranian regime is going to put up with a lot of economic squeeze. they know that their people are going to be upset with it they know that they're a state sponsor of terrorism throughout the region. they are backing up the houthi rebels in yemen. all of these things, as well as syria, are feeding into the iranian people saying wait a minute, you are spending money everywhere but here at home. the conditions at home are becoming intolerable and we are going to speak up. you need to cut back on these other activities and start taking care of every day iranians here at home because we cannot afford and will not live under these conditions. and the ayatollahs know this. >> maria: yeah. so something has got to give, right, commander? when will that happen and what does that mean? >> i think at this point, maria, you're going to see these continued -- conditions continue to exist in iran for probably the next four to six months as the reall continues to lose in its value, as the economy
continues to spiral down in iran. normal people are going to start stepping out into the street. then iranian leadership is going to have to sit down and say where can we cut back on a regional engagements to destabilize that area and begin to bring some of those forces and some of the money home so that they can provide the basic services whether it's water, sewage, garbage collection. it's the simple stuff that is going to take down that regime, not the complicated far-flung worldwide stuff. >> maria: yeah. because the people are watching the leadership use money on weaponry. and use money for things other than actually supporting the people. >> absolutely. and they are well aware. they are not in a bubble like north korea. >> right. >> they do have access to the internet. to the radio, to worldwide communications. so the people in iran who are -- tend to be very well educated throughout the middle east are very aware of what is going on with their country. their engagements worldwide and the fact that they are not being taken care of home
and that the leadership there is the ones responsible for the fact that they can't get the basic services. >> maria: all right, commander lippold, good to see you as always. thank you very much for weighing in here. we will keep watching. we are a few moments away from the president's round table on prison reform. rick leventhal is in brooklyn heights, new jersey where the president is and while he will be doing that round table momentarily he has the very latest. rick? >> well, maria, i'm watching the feed from the pool camera at the trump national golf club in nearby bedminster. we are waiting for this meeting to start and to allow the pool camera access to that meeting. it's one in a series of meetings that the president has held on prisoner reform. there was one at the white house back in january. and then another one last week with faith leaders about how to adjust the prison justice system. perhaps reduce the minimum mandatory sentences for some inmates. >> try to give people a second bite at the apple as one publication put it. so this is a meeting now
today with governors and attorney generals from seven states that have implemented similar prisoner reforms in their states. the governors will be briefing the president on how things are going in their states and then the president will be discussing the possibilities of reform. there is a bill, the first step act that he -- the president hopes to get passed through congress that would help implement some of these reforms. so, again, this meeting will be happening at the bedminster trump national golf club moments from now. the president meeting with attorney generals and governors from seven different states. along with advisors and members of his cabinet. and the topic, of course, is prison reform. something that the president has been talking about since january of this year, maria. >> maria: rick, what does the president want to do in terms of prison reform? i though that he has talked a lot about the prisons being too crowded and the conditions bad. but, what specifically does he want to change? >> well, he also says that he can save taxpayers money. part of that is in reducing
some of these mandatory minimum sentences that some have argued are way out of line. in fact, you may recall back in may the reality star kim kardashian actually had a meeting at the white house with the president because she was appealing on behalf of a woman alice maria johnson who was serving a mandatory life sentence in prison. she was a first-time nonviolent offender. was a middle man, if you will, in a drug transaction. and was serving life in prison. so, tim kardashian went to the white house to try to get the president to pardon her sentence. did he, in fact, give her clemenciy a week later and she is out of prison and back with family members. that's an example of the kinds of things that apparently that the president wants to accomplish to get people who shouldn't maybe spend the rest of their lives in prison to get them out of prison. save the taxpayers some money and give people a second chance. >> maria: all right. we will leave it there. rick leventhal. thank you. >> sure. ♪ >> director wray next week and ask him what is the policy? why didn't you tell
president trump that you had concerns about carter page? is there a double standard here? if this was a counter intelligence investigation, not a criminal investigation, the fbi should have told president trump they had concerns about papadopoulos and page. why didn't they do for trump what they did for feinstein? >> maria: that was south carolina republican senator lindsey graham on fox news last night. he wants answers from the fbi on why california democratic senator dianne feinstein got a tip about a possible chinese spy working in her office. by the way he had been working for her for 20 years. yet, president trump didn't get the same warning about the carter page situation and carter page possibly being a russian spy. attorney jana ellis sees a double standard here. good afternoon. good to see you. >> good to see you, maria. thanks for having me. >> maria: it's a head scratcher what went on in the 2016 election we know that there was real sketchy stuff going on at the top of the fbi and the doj. your thoughts on what should have been done in terms of carter page and the
wiretapping going on? >> yeah, absolutely. i mean, there is a perception of a double standard and perception dictates reality for most americans. i mean, the traditional values that we all cherish, which is the lack of bias, trust, fundamental legitimacy in our law enforcement agents, i mean, that's what matters to every american family. and at the james dobson family institute where i work, we hear from american families daily their issues and things they want to hear from in terms of judicial reform with these kinds of issues. and i think that for american families when they're seeing in type of overt bias and that the bias depends on whether you are democrat vs. republican, that's incredibly problematic for the fbi and for law enforcement when their oath of office is to maintain the integrity of the investigation and not whether a d or an r is after your name.
>> maria: right. >> so, for this type of investigation, there is definitely a double standard that really needs to stop. and i think that just the fbi thought they wouldn't get caught because they thought hillary was going to win. >> maria: right. but it's not stopping, jenna. so where is the accountability? do you think we will ever see accountability? i mean devin nunes, the chairman of the intel committee on the house has been with me several times telling me there was no evidence whatsoever to launch even an investigation into potential collusion between donald trump and the russians and so here we are a year and a half later the special counsel still going on and we continue to see texts from fbi agents showing this incredible amount of bias. what do you think? will we see accountability? >> i hope. so i mean, that's something that senator graham made very clear yesterday when he was saying that, you know, he spoke with president trump and that he sees that, you know, what is going on with the fbi. and i think all americans, especially leading up to mid terms, they want to see that accountability. they want to make sure that there isn't this type of overt bias.
and the examples just keep coming. i mean, when we have hillary clinton who is not really being investigated, there has been no -- no prosecution and there's mountains of evidence for her emails, her server, all of the problems we see the overt bias between strzok and page. and then yet, there is not one shred of evidence that any sort of collusion or crime happened for president trump's campaign or on behalf of his administration and, yet, the mueller investigation is still going on. why would president trump agree to sit down with muriel. imueller. i have been a defense attorney. no competent counsel would ever advise that. that's just lending credibility to his assertion that at this point it is a witch-hunt and i think the american people want closure to this and they want to see justice. because that really is a pre-political value that's a traditional value that's something that our constitution actually stands for in terms of due process. we want equal protection under the law. equal protection should not depend on your political
registration and affiliation. >> maria: yeah, at this point we continue to see all of this evidence and given the fact that the special counsel is looking at collusion or potential collusion, budget he wan wouldnt to look at why hillary clinton campaign paid for the dossier which was used to wiretap carter page? >> he should: we hope. so and this is where a special counsel and a prosecutor's higher obligation of ethics should dictate to go wherever the evidence leads. regardless of where that leads. and so the fact that he is so focused on manafort and that trial has become much more about his involvement in just the very, very quick tenuous involvement with the trump campaign, rather than any sort of evidence against hillary, the fact that muriel is so focused on trump, rather than going where the evidence leads, shows his bias as a prosecutor. and, again, just undermines the legitimacy of law
enforcement, the doj and the finn. i hope there is accountability and the mueller investigation at this point come out. it needs to close in terms of investigating trump. but, rather, look at where the evidence is leading with hillary, the dossier, the emails, the servers, all of those things, all of the american people are wondering what's happening there. >> maria: right. you are right there. was not really an investigation into what hillary clinton did. we know that at this point. and, what's interesting now is these new -- this new information that dianne feinstein had a driver who ended up being more than a driver. one of her assistants for 20 years that was a chinese spy. and the california republican, devin nunes points out that feinstein was briefed amid the concerns that one of her staff members was possibly working as a chinese spy. and, yet, the fbi had drastically deviating from standard operations by not giving donald trump and the campaign a defensive briefing on the russia situation.
>> >> yeah, i think senator graham is right to ask christopher wray what is going on here and what the doj's policy when you have someone from the democratic party who clearly is being shown favoritism from the fbi and then have you candidate from one of the two major political parties in america not being given the same treatment. >> maria: right. >> that's where have you the overt bias. that's what's fundamentally problematic and really undermines the legitimacy and trust in law enforcement and really, frankly, in the government to all americans. because we all understand justice. we all understand fairness. and even little children understand what fair and what's not. and when you have a law enforcement situation that is treating one party differently than the other, that's really problematic. and so the democrats know that it's there. they are just benefiting from the bias. so they are not willing to call it out at this point. jenna, good to see you. thank you very much for
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>> maria: the round table is just getting started. let's listen in. the president is meeting on prison reform. >> done a lot of work. they are renovating the white house. it's a long-term project and they approved it years ago and i said well, i guess this would be a good place to be in the meantime. so doing a lot of work at the white house. i miss it.
i would like to be there. but this is a good way of doing it. we have some very outstanding people with us. i will make a few remarks largely about prison reform and other subjects but largely about prison reform. so i want to thank the governors matt bevin, bill bryant, doug bergman, nathan diehl and john bel edwards for being here today. been friends of mine. we have been, i could say, in wars but we have been on the same side of the wars. that's always good. i want to thank you also to attorney general pam bondi and ken paxton and ken just filed a very interesting lawsuit which i think is going to be very successful. i hope it's going to be successful. i also want to recognize secretary rick perry and alex across attachment thank you very much. we are doing some great things with healthcare alex you are doing wonderful things with energy. it's going to help a lot of
people. a lot of jobs are going to be created. i know you are working on it. i look forward to hearing from each of you about your experiences with prison reform. and the lessons that we have learned. i know how matt and in particular, you have been working so hard, phil, you have been working long and hard on it harder than anyone would know. but i can tell you my administration feels very, very strongly about it one of the single most important things we are doing is to help former inmates in creating jobs. we're creating so many jobs former inmates for the first time are really getting a shot at it because they weren't sought and now they are being sought because our unemployment rate is so low. historically low. 50 years. now, our economy is booming. businesses are hiring, and recruiting workers that were previously overlooked at being hired. it's a great feeling. it's a great thing that we have all accomplished. we have created a lot of jobs in the states and i guess i have helped you a lot on a national basis. we have created 3.9 million
more jobs since election day. it's almost 4 million jobs. which is unthinkable. if i would have said that during the campaign, only a few of the people around this table would have believed me. but they would have. 3.9 million jobs since election day. that's pretty incredible. we have added more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since the election. manufacturing employment is now growing faster than at any time that it has in three decades, over 30 years. through the pledge of america's workers, launched just last month, almost 5 million americans will receive enhanced career training and opportunities and i want to thank ivanka trump for having done an incredible job on that. she has really worked hard on it. it's something very important to her. i have said it to a lot of people. i want to thank jared for what's happening on prison reform because have you really been leading it. something very close to your heart. and as i have said before, we hire americans.
we want to hire and treat our americans fairly. for many years jobs have been taken out of our country. we have lost our businesses. we have lost the hiring abilities that we had. not anymore. now those companies are coming back. they are coming roaring back. to your state, to your state. they are coming back faster than anyone thought even possible. our first duty is to our citizens, including those who have taken the wrong path. brew seeking redemption and a new beginning. that's people that have been in prison and to come out and having a hard time. they are not having such a hard time anymore. we passed the first step act through the house and we are working very hard in the senate to refine it and pass it into law. we think we will be successful in that regard. the bill expands vocational educational programs to eligible federal inmates so that more of them can learn a trade and that's what we're doing. we're teaching them trades. we are teaching them different things that they can put into good use and put into use to get jobs.
i recently met with chairman grassley and other members of congress to discuss the bill. we also agreed that we must be tough on crime, especially on criminals and trafficking of drugs and lots of other trafficking. we have a trafficking problem including human trafficking. we are very, very tough on that. that's going to remain tough or even tougher. we must strengthen community bonds with law enforcement including cities like chicago that have been an absolute and total disaster. we'll be talking about chicago today because that is something that, in terms of our nation, nobody would believe it could be happening. 63 incidents last weekend and 12 deaths. that's bad stuff happening probably i guess you have to take from the leadership. there is no reason in a million years that something like that should be happening in chicago. we want every child to grow up in a safe neighborhood
surrounded by families that are loving and helpful and with a path to great education and a lifelong career. i want to thank everybody for being here and i think what we'll do while the media is here maybe we will go around the room real quickly and introduce yourselves and these are people that have really worked hard on prison reform and lots of other things. but, on prison reform. and that's largely what this meeting is about. governor, please. >> thank you, mr. president. i appreciate the opportunity to be here. we are very pleased at what's happening in georgia. we have seen, since i became governor, a 10% decrease in violent crime in our state 20% year all decrease in crime. we have seen our african-american percentage in our prison system drop significantly for african-american black males has dropped almost 30%. >> that's good. >> black females dropped about 38.2%. our african-american commitments to our prison is at the lowest level it has
been since 1987. and in states like ours, we have a disproportionate number of minorities in our prison vs. our population as a whole. we have found that reentry is a vital part of this a question i asked i asked what's the most common characteristic of those in our prisons, the answer was 70% of them never graduated from high school. so we mediately concentrated on that. we have significantly beefed up our geds and brought a private charter school into our systems and teach them and give them a real high school diploma. we found if you give them a blue collar skill, you reduce your recidivism rate by 24%. if you give them just the education getting a high school diploma, it's ruled by 19%. so, we have been very successful, we're pleased about it, and we're pleased to share whatever information we have that might be helpful. >> thank you very much. pam? >> president, pam bondy, attorney general of florida. thank you for doing. this as a career prosecutor,
you see people who go to prison and get out of prison and can't find a job. and how do we expect people to succeed without being able to get a job. and you were just in tampa, thank you for that. tampa bay tech supporting jobs for young people. and that's what's so important is reentry and being able to get a job and training people on how to be successful. and so something we did in florida shortly after i got elected was decoupled -- if you were a convicted felon you couldn't get occupational license. how do we expect to you succeed. so thank you for what you are doing. >> thank you, pam. thank you very much. we are proud of the work we have done prison reform refocus on reentry. and for the first time in 20 years i can tell that you louisiana does not have the highest incarceration rate in the nation today. >> good. >> it's paying dividends for us. >> who does? >> oklahoma.
>> really? >> but we are reinvesting the savings into our reentry program and also into victim services. so we're excited about what we are doing looking forward to sharing that with you. >> thank you very much. thank you john bel edwards. >> mr. president governor of north dakota. thank you for coming to north last month. things are looking good. things are looking great thanks to a lot of the qualities from this administration and great cabinet that you have. as you know can't really separate today prison reform and our prison situation from addiction. in north dakota. 100% of the women that are incarcerated in our prison system have the disease of addiction. 85% of the men in our prison have disease of addiction. and we can't solve the healthcare of con frick healthcare problem with punishment. we have got to solve it, treat it like a disease and solve it that way. >> right. >> so i want to also thank you for the work that your administration is doing on the addiction front because
it ties directly back into this number of innovations we would like to share at this round table today. >> sure. >> in the end we are trying to create better neighbors. not better prisoners. 98.5% of the people in prison end up coming back out. when they're there, like the other governors have talked about is education. it's career skills. it's treatment. those are things we have to focus on. if we can do that we can turn people's lives around and add people to the workforce. we know we need that because we have so many jobs open in this country. >> thank you very much, governor. >> ken paxton, texas attorney general. thank you mr. president. this is obviously an important issue to texas. i think it's an important issue to the nation. jared, i appreciate your passion for this issue. 2007, under the leadership of, i think the greatest governor of my lifetime, secretary of energy. [laughter] and the president of our top
public policy foundation. we passed legislation similar to what congress is now looking at that has had a dramatic impact on our ability to take people from prison into productive lives. i can site many statistics but we were facing spending $2 billion and we didn't spend the money we put 240 million into treatment and into helping people find jobs. we have expanded that since. but it's made a tremendous difference. we have not built any more new brifns since then. we have actually closed 8 prisons. it's really made a difference. and i think it can make a difference for our nation. i look forward to continuing the discussion. >> how are you doing with your recently filed case? how is that looking? >> well, we had a hearing yesterday and i think went quite well. we will see what the judge says. we know we are right on the law and the constitution. we are confident that things are going to go on the right way. >> it's true. >> thank you, mr. president, phil bratton, mississippi. in 2014 we began our right on crime program. we used all the things that
georgia has been successful with and texas, i call both of these governors and said tell me how did you it i'm a former law enforcement officer. i worked undercover narcotics cases. i have been about out there with the worse of the worse. i have put a lot of people in jail. some of it was difficult particularly when i was state auditor and state government officials stated employees went to jail for white collar crime. we began a strong program working with the pew institute of putting that workforce training program into effect. making sure that we looked at addiction. mental health. mental health challenges within the correctional facilities are obviously rampant. also trying to make prisons a drug-free zone. and a crime-free zone within that prison so you can't -- your life can't be threatened every day. you can't be attacked in prison. you can't have access to drugs and be rehabilitated. and then finally the faith based organization. it takes a change of heart. and i have been around a lot of people who are in jail. and if their hearts aren't changed, they're lives will not be changed.
so, prison ministries, all of those things that government doesn't like to admit to that works. >> right. >> works. and so when we bring faith back in to the prison system, and prisoners have hope again. that worked better for us than anything we could have done, another reentry program, getting jobs, getting driver's license, keeping them connected with their families so they have something to work towards getting out of prison. and i can tell you i had to call a lot of my republicans into the governor's office and convince them to vote for this bill they everywhere worried it was soft on crime and hesitant about what they were going to tell their people back home. i said you tell them to call me. because, crime is down 6%. we have 3,000 less inmates. we saved $40 million sings 2014. and you can do the same thing and, jerry, thank you for your leadership. thank you. >> thank you, mr. president. >> mr. secretary? >> mr. president, i would like to make two key points first as you mentioned, the
economy is doing incredibly well. for the first time since we have been keeping records, we have more open jobs than we have people to fill those jobs. >> right. >> and so these programs are needed for the economy. we have jobs ready and waiting for individuals when they leave prison. second, i would like to follow up on what some of the governors have said u these programs work. as you know and as everybody at the table knows i was a u.s. attorney in miami. and when you talk with the law enforcement community, what they will tell is you that these programs foster public safety. when someone leaves prison, the best that can happen for them is for them to find a job. the best that can happen to society is for them to find a job and start contributing to society rather than go back to the old way of crime. this is very much a win-win for the individual. it's for the safety of the community. and for the economy of the
nation. you have individuals that are going from a prison system where the taxpayer is funding the system to contributing members of society that are -- we are working various governors. we have put out a request for proposal. we got so many -- so many applications from various governors on programs that are very much outside the box that this fall we intend to put out another request for proposal. on another round of reentry efforts. so i want to thank the governors and i want to thank all that are working on this issue. >> have you been great and your healthcare plan is going along beautifully. that is really doing something. are you surprised by the nuns you are hearing? >> it is. just this morning i read an article mentioning a number of associations around the country one in wisconsin, certainly one in nevada that are already forming these
and yesterday i was talking with some of the governors here about the various activity in their state. so it's moving very nicely. >> it's been great. thank you, alex, very much. >> brook? >> well, thank you so much. mr. president, we're so happy to be here. i tell you i am overwhelmed and sown courage you had. these governors are real innovators and entrepreneurs and what they have done is this idea of the laboratories of democracy that in the states we have moved so many issues forward that now the federal level honored to be a part of your team in the federal level we cannot see what's happening in the state. what is working and basically lifting people to a better life of the forgotten men and women of this country and having lived it in texas beside this two great men for more than a decade. we have seen firsthand how it changes lives and gives people second chances and puts communities back together and keeps families together. thank you for the opportunity. >> thank you. >> mr. president, thank you
for bringing her on board. i think you are seeing on a daily basis what a talent she is. dealing with these issues. two things that i want to share with the table and with you and with the general public and one is it's because of those tax policies because of those regulatory policies that you push through. we got more people working in america than never before. [applause] >> awesome. >> we have to have that. because if these programs are to work when the folks get out of prison, for they don't go to prison to begin with, and that's our real goal. and i want to share with these governors around here, every one of them are courageous because i heard it when we were doing this back in texas. in the early and mid 2,000s that, you know, we thought you were tough on crime. nobody ever got me confused
with being soft on crime. you know, i sign more execution orders than probably any governor in the history of this country. and that's a sad thing. but it's a fact. so i'm not soft on crime. but i like to say we were smart on crime in texas because we put these programs in to place and young people, whose lives would be destroyed if we sent them on to prison and that's where they really become professional criminals. and we never allowed that to happen. weigh gave them a second chance. and so texans now really understand if we shut down 8 prisons, saving some 3 plus billion dollars a year in prison costs. and conservatives look at that now and go that was smart on crime. and, pam, that's what people will say about you, mr. president is number one, have created this climate where people can have a job and have hope for the
future. and, finish with this. is that you pass that piece of legislation that does clearly reforms the prison system and i will suggest to you from my perspective, that sentencing reform is part of that as well. and then you have the ability to show this country and then these laboratories of innovation, you know, when doug goes back up to north dakota and he puts in for his state the right programs, and it's not, you know, top down, but have you sent the right message that fellows here's the way to reform your prison system. we're not going to be in the way. we are not going to be a hurdle for you and you all figure out how to do the rest of the way. and this country, i mean, can be incredibly proud of what they are doing for the next generation of people to come along. and these governors are going to be a real key part of it. >> thank you, rick. very good.
thank you very much. how is it going energy wise? >> i will tell you i don't know how it could be much better. [laughter] the people around the world, we are selling lng in 30 countries on five continents. john, a lot in is headed to a lot of places. doug, number two oil producer in the world, i should say in the united states, texas. >> we're catching you. >> and we want you to. come on. give us your best shot. but, things are going good, sir. i mean, it is a massive jobs being created we got the opportunity to i don't want to get us off track here oil and gas infrastructure if there is one thing we collectively and these governors will tell that you as well we will produce it getting it out of this
country is the challenge right now we have become number one over the world last period of time. we have made it easier. yet, environmentally perfect. we have become number one in the world. we are now a net exporter which nobody thought they would ever hear. and we are doing a lot of good things for a lot of other countries. thank you very much. have you done a great job. thank you. matt? >> mr. president, i just want to thank you again for convenes this not just once, not just twice but on multiple occasions. i had a chance to meet a number of folks around this table. a comment was made early on by you and your introductory comments about the fact that this is a war where people can be lined up on the same side and most powerful thing about this and something that i hope those in the media appreciate i look at a guy john bel edwards in louisiana represent different parties than i do in kentucky in terms of our political affiliation. this is something very much we are of like mind on. this transcends anything political. again, i tip my hat to you
for not only on this issue but on others bringing things to the political forefront that aren't political. historically been ignored because they weren't political and nobody got any points politically by doing them but that they were the right thing to do. as some have gone around this table and touched on, it isn't just the fact that it's smart on crime or that it's financially prudent because it is all of those things, but it's the right thing to do. just the human dignity of giving people, this is a land of second chances and of opportunity to rebuild your life. and you are giving us, through this conversation, and the kind of things that you are pushing from the federal level the encouragement from the bottom up to give millions and millions of americans a chance at redemption. and it's, i think, the greatest gift we can offer people. and it's something that, again, for all the economic reasons we have just mentioned we desperately need, these are able body offed men and women 95 to 97% of the 2 million currently in prison are
going to get out. what are they going to do? are we going to give them a path to stay out or are they going to go right back in? some of the things we have done in kentucky is literally start training programs inside of the prison system because one of the things we do have two twins that are going off to college in the next couple of weeks and every one of them from the beginning they get to college they have a guidance counselor that is helping them chart their path. i truly think it's something we need to do within our prison system. because we're spending just as much for every person in a prison system as we are for a kid in college. why not give them a path for them personally to make sure they don't come back to this place but that they go out and become productive tax paying citizens who contribute and become good mothers and fathers and community members. these are the kind of things that this will afford us the chance to do. again, i truly appreciate this. it's something personally that i have a passion for and for you and your administration, jared, really, kudos to you because have you done such stellar
job of bringing this to the forefront and gathering us together. i'm grateful to the two of you for making this possible. >> thank you, matt. i have to say we have tremendous political support. it surprises me. i thought that when we started this journey about a year ago i thought we wouldn't have a lot of political support. we would have to convince people. we have great political support who see what's happening. people that i would least suspect behind it 100 percent. that's a good thing. thank you all for being here. thank you all very much. thank you. thank you very much. >> thank you, everyone. >> mr. president -- >> mr. collins being indicted? >> are you. >> mr. president -- >> mr. president, any response to chris collins? >> thank you. >> please exit. >> mr. president, are you going to sit down with robert mueller? >> thank you. >> let's go. >> thank you. >> thank you. pra maria that's the president's round table on prison reform.
>> we heard all of the participants speak joining for reaction pastor darrell scott thank you for joining us today, sir, your reaction to what the president is trying to do here? >> well, first of all, i think the meeting today with the state leaders proves that this past meeting the president had with the inner city pastors was not simply a photo op. he has a genuine concern for prisoners, for american in prison reform i know that for fact. i was on a meeting with him last year on prison reform. no one advocated for the prisoners more vociferously than the president did. he believes in giving them a second chance and another chance. he also believes that jobs and better living conditions and better environments will help cus curb that recidivism rate. hats off to jared kushner. he has been working tirelessly on prison reform. i really believe they are making positive strives. >> maria: what's most important to you then,
pastor. is he talking about supporting broader sentencing reform. what does that mean to you? >> well, when i first was in meetings with the president and jared kushner about prison reform, we brought out the fact that it's bigger than that. that more so than just prison reform. we need criminal justice reform. you remember during the campaign that 1994 clinton crime bill was disappointing incarcerated
>> like i told you, there's a big crisis, a shortage of food and medicine. children are dying because of the shortage of medicine. senior citizens are dying because of the shortage of medicine. we can't find food. everything is overpriced, that's why the majority of venezuelans are fleeing the situation.
>> that's on top of nearly $60 million it has provided for the crisis. she blames president nicolas maduro, in an exclusive tv interview with fox news, and says it's past time for him to leave. >> what we are trying to do here is help the people. we can raise their voices. >> maduro's regime persists but venezuelans are telling us there is that even more severe crackdown in that country after an assassination attempt this past week and on maduro. >> maria: thank you. rich edson in the ground in bogota. joining me is a woman with the independent women's forum and kennedy. great to see you.
when we talk about socialism versus capitalism, you don't really hear the cost of socialism all that much, kennedy. i am listening to alexandria ocasio-cortez talk about free everything, but you never hear who was going to foot the bill. >> you have the urban institute, the mercator center, even vox have done analyses. not only medicare for all but also free college tuition. vox said it's about a $42 trillion proposition over two years. she has not been adequate in her explanation. other than saying we can fund endless wars. does that mean you're going to limit government funding completely and take $500 billion and somehow move that to your pet project? that doesn't come close to covering some of the things, these great intention, good feelings that are unsustainable. >> maria: while people are
fleeing socialism in venezuela venezuela -- >> it is deadly. >> maria: she is pushing it in the u.s. patrice lee, joining. >> this is what happens when the jewel of south america wasted its oil reserve, wasted its prosperity through socialist policies, read distribute wealth and private property. overtaking private companies. this is what happens. it's surprising to see what's happening to these people. i sigh reported that on average people lost 24 pounds last year because of malnutrition. evil can find food to buy -- people can't find food to buy. i don't want to see the united states wasting its wealth and prosperity chasing after redistribution. >> maria: kennedy, do you think people understand applications? >> i think people like
alexandria ocasio-cortez and bernie sanders, they get a lot of attention. bernie struck more record in 2016 when the economy wasn't doing as well as it is now. it's a tough sell in a good economy. their people fleeing venezuela, pouring into columbia who want to say we want to work, people in this country are finding the same thing. it's better to have the opportunity to create your own economic mobility as opposed to relying on a government that will exhaust its tax base very quickly. >> maria: going into the midterms, patrice, do you think the american people understand we are talking about here and understand the implications of socialism? >> they do. a recent poll found more than half of americans want government policies that expand opportunities rather than deal with income inequality. bernie sanders come in 2011, was hailing venezuela as an example of how socialism works. it's surprising how quiet he is right now. i think it's very wrong.
it's right to want to ensure people have opportunity and have a good paying job and can take care of their families, but it's not the right avenue to take other people's property and wealth and income and sprinted around equally. you are just spreading equal misery, not equal prosperity. >> maria: we look at the democratic party today, kennedy my you're not going to be able to resonate with the leadership and let you go all the way to the left. >> that's right. the national thrust of the democrat party is becoming more more progressive. most people like gavin newsom and kamala harris take a larger role. then you have local races where people like danny o'connor and conor lamb running on local issues, they had to be more moderate and certainly more fiscally conservative because that's what their constituents want. >> maria: kennedy, patrice lee, thank you. we appreciate it. that will do it for us for today. thank you for joining me. catch me tomorrow morning on the fox business network.
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