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the policies and procedures, this would be the replacement. and that and much more on your world on monday. we'll see you next week. fox continues right now. >> former cia director john brennan is talking about president trump's decision to pull the security clearance and the president is considering who may be next on his list with the same moves. >> new details about the death of a pregnant woman and her children. her husband is facing formal charges for killing them on monday. >> and president trump is saying that the economy is stronger than ever before. we'll take a look at the numbers coming up. welcome to america's news headquarters from washington, i'm kristin fisher. >> nice to be with you at home. i'm leland vittert.
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the trump administration considering revoking more security clearances for current or former officials with connections to the russia investigation. this, as former cia director john brennan is speaking out about the president taking away his clearances. >> this is an egregious act that it flies in the face of traditional practice, as well as common sense, as well as national security. i think that's why there's been such an outcry from many intelligence officials, know the to support me, but to support the principle that security clearances are something that's very, very solemn and sacred and they never ever should be used for political purposes. >> all right, john brennan there on msnbc. fox news national security correspondent jennifer griffin joining us now. we're about 48 hours into this. this seems to be the beginning rather than the end. >> well, leland, there are very
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clear signs that president trump is preparing to strip the security clearances of eight more, and one current justice department employee for their role into the russia poll or their criticism of the president in recent months. democrats on the hill have called it an enemies list. and one compared it to mccarthy era tactics. among those in the president's sights, former head of the fbi, james comey. former dna james clapper among others. of particular note is a justice department prosecutor who works in the organized crime division who most have not heard of of until recent. bruce ohr. he was demoted by deputy attorney general rod rosen stein after it was revealed that he had contact with christopher steele, the former mi-6 spy that compiled a dossier who compiled
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documents that implied they had information on trump. president trump hinted at what is likely to be his next move while leaving the white house. >> i think that bruce ohr is a disgrace. i suspect i will be taking it away quickly. >> i think that bruce ohr is a disgrace with his wife nelly. to be in the justice department and what he did, that's a disgrace. >> the president's tweet. bruce ohr are doj is in legal jeopardy, it's astonishing that they're there. and bruce and his wife nell y bank account is getting fatter and fatter because of the dossier that they are both peddling. and there's oversight on capitol hill august 28th. >> that will be one to watch.
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jennifer, thank you for being with us. we bring in great american pac co-chair and fox news contributor, ed rollins. john brennan is running out of adjectives of ways to describe his displeasure and his view of the president. >> what john is, is now a commentator and he's no longer an official. that's reserved for the government. there's no right-- >> hold it, so what you're saying is, clearly it's the president's choice. so does that mean that all commentators should have their security clearances taken away or just the people that president disagrees with. >> first of all, paul commentators don't have national security-- >> no, any commentator should have national security clearances, should they be taken away? >> if the president determines. i worked at two white houses,
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and top secret clearancement at the end of the day, you let someone keep it if they can come back and be helpful to you. john brennan is never going to come back and be a part of this administration or used to help in anything. >> the logic you're using, doesn't it smack, it may not be, doesn't it smack if you're nice to me, then i'll let you keep your security clearance. >> no, no, no. >> if you're not, i won't. >> no. >> that's the logic you're laying out. >> no, i'm not laying that logic out. you're interpret it go that way. my argument, john brennan played an active role in pushing this dossier and he's been very against the president when he was still in the administration as a cia director. he's been a public critic and at the end of the day he can be a public critic and go on msnbc and fox and say anything he wants. the president says i have a right to award national security clearances or withdraw national security clearances. it's my authority, my power, it's my administration. >> okay. and he clearly seems to be doing that with people who disagree with him or he doesn't like.
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more from john brennan and we'll get your reaction. take a listen. >> find out what the russians did in interfering with the election, i have 100% confidence for what they did. for mr. trump to stand on that stage in helsinki with all the world's eyes on him he doesn't understand why would the russians interfere in the election,'s given mr. pooutin a the russians time after time after time referring to as a witch hunt. to me it's an attack against the foundational principle of our great republic, which is the right of americans to choose their elected leaders. >> mr. brennan did not make his dislike of mr. president trump a secret. and he was a cia director and supposed to be nonpartisan as a
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key player of of intelligence in the obama administration. it begs the question if his behavior is so far outside the realm of normal behavior why not have the cia revoke his clearance. why aren't we hearing from mike pompeo when he was cia director that this bridged the normal behaviors and have them revoke it. >> first of all, it's the president's prerogative to do that. equally important, john brennan if he knows what the russians were doing when he was the cia director why didn't he do something about it and testify before the congress, here is what they did, how they did it? why did he stumble along with the campaign and go to mr. trump, you need to be careful, the russians are trig to investigate and get in your campaign? i think the reality he has been a partisan for a long time, a clinton supporter. >> i appreciate all that you just said, it didn't answer your question. if this is so outside the norm of behavior and you interpoed out you felt he was lacking in his duties from the cia why not
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have gina haspel or mike pompeo in the past as director of the cia pull his clearance? >> because the president wanted to do that and it's the president's prognosis tiff-- prerogative to do it. >> you have the president tweeting this morning about the economy and how great things are going, two great days in the dow on thursday and friday. why have this kind of distraction from what would be really good news for the president? is this a smart communication strategy, to give his enemies so much to talk about and so much to bash him about when he could be spending every moment out at the rose garden talking about trade, talking about the economy, talking about jobs? >> he attempts to talk about those things and often times it's not covered on other networks. it is pretty much on this one. at the end of the the president, i don't control the president and you don't control the president and brennan doesn't control the president, and he's a fighter and-- >> let me just. >> mr. rollins, you're a political expert.
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and that's why we have him her. if you were advising the president. >> i'm not advising him. >> if you were. would you say mr. president, you're better going the route of touting your accomplishments rather than giving red meat, which revoking security clearances of political opponents is, to members of the opposition or as they would call themselves the resistance. >> he feels fronting ll lly -- strongly about this. he's out there every single day talking about the economy to the american public. at the end of the day, i don't advise this president. why do that. you asked me hypothetically. and do you advise anybody at fox how to do things? no. at the end of the day you do what you wants to do. >> and he would notice us talking in the break room how things should happen. >> you're all experts. and i could sit here, been 50 years in this business and i
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know what works and what doesn't work. i'm not advising the president. the president basically is a strong-willed man and does what he thinks he's right. >> he says he thinks he's his best communications advisor. mr. rollins, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> kristin. >> jury deliberations in the paul manafort trial will resume on monday. they left for the weekend after not reaching a verdict. 15 hours of deliberation over the course of two days. and while they were deliberating. president trump was defending his former campaign manager, calling it a sad day for the country. and jarrett tenney what to expect next week. >> and last night we also got breaking news in the case against george popadopolous, another trump advisor. and that's why they opened the investigation into russia in the first place. he has pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi. and last night, special counsel
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robert mueller's team recommended that the judge sentence him up to six months in prison along with a fine of $9500. in according to mueller's recommend dumb, popadopolous lied in order to make false statements to investigators on january 27th, 2017 early in the investigation when he investigated decisions, including who to interview and when, were being made. now, papadopoulos is expected to be sentence pd. and paul manafort is expected to learn his fate in two trials that mueller last brought against him. the jury will be back on monday morning. and manafort's attorneys are feeling confident. >> how are you feeling? >> deliberating longer, it
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favors your client? >> i do, and he does. >> and a handful of media outlets wanted to unseal the juror's name and he can't and now he has to travel with a armed detail from the u.s. marshal. >> garrett tenney, thank you so much. >> here to weigh in, john, i want to start with breaking news. what do you make of the fact that the special counsel is now seeking jail time for pa papadopoulos? >> they're looking for anybody who have kind of contact with the president and squeezing them. that's why manafort is-- >>, but he has been squeezed. >> it's significant, they're only asking for six months and going to sentencing in september, which suggests that his cooperation is done and what have they found?
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i think with respect to papadopoulos, it was a big zero, they found nothing. >> we'll see. with manafort, the defense says they believe the fact na the jury deliberations have taken this long and are expected to go longer is a good sign for them. do you agree? >> well, anytime you have a jury that's deliberating, that's a good sign for the defense. if they come back rather quickly that's not typically not good. the reality, they had three weeks of trial, they had hundreds and hundreds of very complex documents. this is a sophisticated tax and bank fraud case and they had a cooperating witness had spent days on the stand, richard gates. the jury has a lot to look ap and i suspect they're looking at it an in a thorougho and rigorous jobs, you had exhibits, and one of the questions that the jury wanted answered, could we get an index or a key linking
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all of these exhibits to the individual counts and the judge refused. so what kind of impact do you think that that will have as the jury tries to sift through all of this evidence? it's overwhelming for people who follow it closely. >> it's so hard and in trying cases you try to simplify it as much as possible, but one of the most difficult ways of learning is to sit on a jury. you can't ask question. you can't read things, you can't request particular things maybe you're fused about. there's no dialog, no interaction, so it's very, very hard to learn as jurors, but typically judges don't give indexes. the reality is that they have to sift through this, this evidence and it's a lot of paper. the prosecution wanted to make this a paper case. they wanted the jury to focus on what's in the paper and the documents. they don't want the jury to rely on richard gates, whereas the defense is attacking gates, attacking gates all the time. >> there's a lot of documents. that might be an understatement. they did their if that's what
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they wanted to do. what do you make of jury's question redefining reasonable doubt. what about that asking of the judge. >> a typical question, you get it almost in every trial. and they sit there, reasonable doubt, the basis to convict or not to convict. what does it mean? there's interpretive questions. these are lay people, they're not professionals. they haven't been exposed to these terms. completely natural that they would ask such a question. i wouldn't read too much into it. >> john, let's zoom out, big picture here, what would an acquittal mean for the special counsel's larger russia probe. what would a conviction mean here? >> i think that acquittal would be devastating to mr. mueller. i think that conviction would give him steam. in either case, this investigation is not going away anytime soon. these prosecutors are committed to one thing and one thing alone and that's getting donald trump. >> all right, well, john, thank
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you so much. as we said the jury will resume deliberations on monday. they got to leave early on friday at 5:00 because one of the jurors had an event to go to. >> hard work. >> i'd love to leave work early on a friday. judge let them go. so, hey, seems to be tough on the prosecution, but at least nice to some of the jurors and he's keeping their names sealed because the judge, of course, said he had been threatened and worried about jurors threatened as well. >> he's a great judge, an outstanding judge. >> well, that's what you say. i know the prosecution probably would not say that. john, thanks so much. leland. >> thank you. former u.n. secretary-general kofi annan has died. according to his foundation's twitter page, he died in switzerland after a short, unspecified illness. he served two terms as secretary-general from 1997 to 2006. midway through his career, and in the u.n., jointly awarded the nob nobel peace prize. he was 80 years old. >> turkey's president calls the
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latest rounds of american terroris terrorists against it as a coup. the downgrade by moody's is the latest blow to turkey as it hit a massive hit. and tariffs, and pastor brunson. we'll take a look at how china's retaliatory tariffs are affecting the united states. >> an effort to reunite children separated at the border, calling on getting the job faster. what it means for the administration. plus, less than 90 days for the midterms. why so many democrats are distancing themselves from the house minority leader nancy pelosi. as the colorado dad is expected to face formal charges of killing his pregnant wife and two daughters monday, their colorado community comes to
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>> a federal judge is asking the u.s. government and a.c.l.u. to come up with a plan to reunite families separated at the border while seeking asylum. it was one day after the judge extended a freeze on deportations. they will address whether or not some parents who were deported without their children could return to the u.s. to pursue asylum with their minors. leland: we are learning more about the colorado man accused of killing his wife and two young daughters. their bodies have been found. he now faces formal charges on monday. you might remember at one point, that same man was on tv asking for the public's help in finding his family. jeff paul from our west coast news room with more on this. hi, jeff. >> hi, leland, yeah, we're learning today that the man's wife and two kids were found submerged in crude oil for four
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days before being discovered by investigators. that according to the suspect's lawyers who asked the judge to have dna samples from the kids throats and from the hands and nails of the mother. and people gathered outside the family home in colorado for a candlelight vigil. people from all over the community held candles and stood silently as they remembered the lives of shanann watts and they are little girls, bella and celeste. >> that's uncomprehensible to me, or anyone in this community. you just -- it just doesn't happen and it did right here. >> it's heartbreaking. >> it's heartwrenching, not real. it's too close to home. it's painful. and we all have kids. leland: investigators believe it was inside their home where
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husband and father christopher watts killed his wife who was 15 weeks pregnant and their two little girls. authorities discovered their bodies on the property where christopher watts worked. initially he gave interviews shortly after they went missing saying, quote, i just want them back. later investigators say he confessed to their deaths. authorities are trying it figure out how they died and why. investigators haven't commented on a motive. watts, meanwhile, will face a judge on tuesday. leland. leland: there has been some reporting that watts had left the job of the place where bodies were found, but unclear exactly when he did. jeff paul in los angeles. thanks. kristin. kristin: still ahead, does nancy pelosi help or hurt the democrats in november? what members of her own party of saying about her leadership. and former white house aide omarosa man gault newman says she has not reported bombshells.
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wisconsin, where ice dams could cause water damage. but no matter what park you live on, one of 10,000 local allstate agents knows yours. now that you know the truth, are you in good hands? >> president trump is still feeling the heat following the release of former senior staffer omarosa manigault-newman's book about time in the administration. and the president is spending the weekend in new jersey. the white house would rather this not be a topic of discussion in the media or elsewhere. omarosa has made it clear that she's not planning to go anywhere and there could be a whole lot more than audio tapes. according to associated press, she as a stash of videos,
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e-mails, text messages and other documentation supporting the claims in her tell-all books. someone with personal knowledge describes it as a treasure trove. that she would selectively release whatever she has. >> there were things that i write about and then there are things that i'm going to save to share when the time is right. >> a few days ago, the trump campaign filed a formal complaint against manigault-newman, saying she violated a confidentiality agreement she signed. and the legal counsel sent a letter to the trump legal team saying their clients would not be intimidated by hollow legal threats and they were well within their writes. and she talked about kelly firing her in the situation room
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and his daughter-in-law offering her a job, saying it was an effort to silence her. his communications team says she's a liar. >> he has absolutely no respect for women, for african-americans as evidenced by him instructing the chief of staff to lock me for two hours in the situation room to harass me, threaten me and saying that things could get really ugly for me and there would be damage to my reputation. >> he is unfit to be in this office. >> she sang his praises, called him a mentor, in fact, but somehow i guess the truth wasn't paying the bills so she decide today change her mind and tell everyone lies and contradictions about her time here. >> the president began his morning with a series of tweets, know the about this, but about social media. he said social media in general is discriminating against conservatives, though he didn't offer any specific evidence for that. we've reached out to the white house for clarification on those tweets. >> and he's had a lot of tweets already this morning.
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ellison barber inside the press filing center because it's a nasty rainy day outside near bedminster, new jersey. thanks, ellison. >> you bet. leland: it's rarely a nasty day in tucson, arizona. and that's why garrett is in such a good mood when we talk to him. good afternoon, my friend. the question, you've got omarosa here with the cryptic words saying i've saved things to share. she clearly doesn't have anything to lose. doesn't have any credibility left. doesn't have any political future left. so, scorched earth is her policy. should the white house be worried about this? >> no, i don't think that anybody cares about omarosa, they care about money in their pockets, they care about their jobs, care about the border being secured. nobody liked omarosa for 15 years now. nobody is going to like her now. leland: the president liked her enough to put her in the white house. >> yeah, you know, i guess maybe he thought she could be useful,
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but she turned out to be exactly what she was and i've read reports she was even fired during the clinton administration. so people find out about this. leland: and you have an interesting point in terms of what people care about is jobs, money in their pockets, the economy. it's clear that the president sort of picked this fight with john brennan over security clearances and he's picking at least eight more people he's likely or could revoke their security clearances. would the president be better served long-term by focusing on jobs, money in people's pockets, the economy, how his trade policies are working, rather than what you might call distractions and giving the other side something to crow about? >> i think the president drives the narrative with twitter. if you go out to lunch i guarantee you probably asked 30 people, 25 wouldn't to know john brennan is and the president is not like other republican presidents where he gets punched in the face all the time. i rer when george w. bush was president, we were on talk radio, were tying for him to
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fight back and stand up for himself and call out the media for lying and now we have a guy that's actually doing it, which is why i call trump the talk radio president. leland: we certainly know he studies talk radio and studies opinion television as well, in terms of how he crafts his message. one thing he hasn't really been that vocal about, interestingly enough is the arizona senate race. obviously, he was pretty vocal about jeff flake, but who to replace jeff flake. three-way primary the end of the month, sally, arpaio and ward running against each other and the president essentially said nice things about all three of them, but hasn't endorsed any of them. what do you make of that? >> well, you know, the president is buddies with joe arpaio, he pardoned him so i don't think that the president wants to get involved and say anything bad there. he has to work with martha mcsally and they think that she has the best chance of winning and he doesn't want to say
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anything bad about her. the president realize that most of his supporters actually support kelly ward. the closest aligned to the president in all the beliefs. martha mcsally, she won't even come on my radio show and we've invited her for years and she won't talk. leland: we keep hearing she's difficult can to track down. time magazine tried to track her down and phillip elliott wrote, arizona is the-- the state g.o.p. censured john mccain by working on a bipartisan issue about this race coming up. it brings an important question up though, does republicans run the risk of arpaio or ward becoming something like a roy moore? >> no. you know, again, that's the media and that's the establishment narrative trying to-- >> sheriff joe, really, isn't roy moore? >> no, i'm not--
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sheriff joe at this point is irrelevant. it's really between marsha and kelly and the media likes to, for some reason and the establish pt paint kelly as kind of crazy. if you actually listen to what she says she's not crazy. again, she's the most aligned with trump. martha mcsally actually had a video scrubbed from youtube, pacically yelling at john kelly when he was the head of homeland security, demanding that daca recipients be protected in tucson. and maybe if she'd be honest, i didn't like trump and now i do. the fact that she won't talk, they don't want that anymore. leland: if the feeling you're getting is kelly ward is the person to run and win in november, does arpaio become a little bit of a foil here in the sense that he could take enough votes away from ward and sort of the trump vote and the trump factor, to put mcsally over the
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top? >> you know, people say that. i don't buy it. i just, you know, joe hasn't been out as much as kelly and martha when she goes on national tv or has a whole bunch of ads playing. people like joe and he fought against illegal immigration here. when it comes to the senate race they look at the guy, 85, 86 years old and not to be an ageist, it's time to move on. people realize that. i don't think he's siphoning too many votes. leland: interesting enough. last question for you. any chance that the dems pick up a senate seat in arizona? we know they want to. >> you know, it's funny, martha has been kind of rebranded into a conservative even though i don't believe she is. the democrats in the media are trying to rebrand kirsten cinema into an independent modern person. she was green party with ralph nader back when she was a state lawmaker in 2006. she called stay at home moms
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leeches, leeching off their husbands and boyfriends. she was hand picked in 2009 by the obama administration to push-- >> i never thought you'd like her as a candidate. the question is, dos she have a chance? >> i don't think so. not when this comes out. arizona is still a red state. leland: all right. well, certainly turned out to be that way. we appreciate you being on with us. thank you, sir, as always. back to you after the primary. >> my pleasure sthoo we'll talk about the general coming up in about a month. tomorrow, fox news sunday, chris wallace joined by mike mullen, former joint chief of staff. check your local listings. media buzz live from los angeles, howard kirtz and guests, breaking down the coverage of omarosa's interviews. >> i'll be watching for sure. a big shock for elon musk and
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little, shall we say premature. kristin: premature. he's a busy man. >> can nt do everything, right? >> well, china and the u.s. will attempt a breakthrough in the escalating trade war before a new round of tariffs take effect next week. that round 16 billion dollars, that will go into effect on thursday as china levies them against the u.s. matthew, let me get this, we've got 16 billion worth of more tariffs going into effect on thursday and hearings this week for potential of $200 billion more tariffs. i mean, what does this all mean if they all go into effect or u.s. consumers? >> well, first off, let's be very clear, there's nothing positive for u.s. consumers or really americans for being in a trade war. so, that's very important. but the fact is, that we have a president who is using tools in his toolbox that i think previous presidents have not used before. and so, right now, the stage
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that we're in is really the tit-for-tat on a number of different things going back and forth. china is responding pretty much to what we're doing by doing the same thing. and i find it a bit reassuring we might have a potential agreement to at least sit down and talk this winter, which i think could be very important, but in the meantime, i think we're going to continue to see that tit-for-tat which haven't great for confidence, isn't great for consumers, isn't great for americans, but at the same time i think we probably have to experience some short-term pain for some long-term gain. and this is to some extent us paying the price for, frankly, decades of not having these kind of hard conversations that we need to have. kristin: so if all of these planned tariffs go into effect, the u.s. would be taxing roughly half of all chinese imports. i mean, it's such a ridiculous number that it's hard to wrap your head around. are u.s. farmers, and u.s.
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companies going to be able to weather this even if it's worth it in the long run? >> let's be sure to be clear for everybody. the u.s. economy is suck-- substantially larger than the chinese economy, we can withstand more. and let's not please ever forget that. at the same time this is not fun of the these are difficult conversations to be having and it could potentially cause a lot of, again, short-term pain to americans farmers so we need to make sure that whatever we're threatening, following through on, we're also matching in support for our farmers. there's no question about that. kristin: so we've got all of these tariffs on china because of what the president sees as their unfair trade policies, but also levering tariffs on turkey for a different reason. most notably, i guess, turkey is continuing to hold an american pastor, pastor brunson, and the trump administration has been calling for his release. what do you make of those
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tariffs and potential for them to get even worse? >> well, i think that those tariffs are certainly in response. the president feels that he had an agreement with erdogan and that he broke it. the pastor needs to be released and released frankly now. i was disappointed to see they rejected his appeal to be at least be out of house arrest. it seems like turkey is continually wanting to escalate this. the fact is president erdogan is completely in the driver's seat. as long as he's doing what he's doing, holding pastor brunson captive, in jail essentially, we're not going to see this end well and we've seen secretary mnuchin threaten another round much tariffs. kristin: is this the consequence that president trump is speaking to? he spoke out yesterday. he's already done so much, what more could the trump administration do if turkey
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continues to hold pastor brunson? >> i think you're right that tariffs are probably the next step and i think that the president and secretary mnuchin will carry out on their threat to be honest. it's important to recognize that turkey is a very geopolitically important country. economically and from a security perspective. this is not a country to take lightly and anybody sitting there and down playing toourkey importance is absolutely crazy. they're on the front lines, in between europe and the middle east and secondly, they're an n.a.t.o. member of the that's important to respect. from a security standpoint we need to be very careful and that's probably why the president is going to stick with the tariffs. and the fact is president erdogan is popular in his country. and this is a complicated guy to be working with. kristin: from turkey to china, we see president trump using the tools in his toolbox few other presidents have used. we'll see if they work.
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>> thank you so much. kristin: a pleasure. >> thank you so much. leland: a fox news alert. live pictures coming to us from berlin. there's angela merkel, the chancellor of germany and then we have vladimir putin standing next to her at a press conference. as you might imagine, there's a long list of topics for these two leaders to discuss, not a lot of love lost between the two of them. one big topic, president trump's opposition to a natural gas pipeline connecting russia and germany and you might remember that was a big issue between president trump and angela merkel during their summit a couple of weeks ago. we're going to watch this. unfortunately we do not have an english translation of what they're saying. ap news alerts as they happen. >> you don't speak german, leland? come on. [applause] >> okay, these doctors just got the surprise of a lifetime. and i promise you, that if you heard what they heard, you would
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>> welcome back on this saturday. on the campaign trail, democratic socialists are
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pledging free college and constantly talk about the higher cost of higher education and students loans. nyu is beating them to the punch of giving away free stuff. promising free tuition to all of its medical students, both current and future. bri bryan llenas there in new york with what all of this costs. we're talking a lot of money here, buddy. >> a lot of money, about a half billion dollars. new york university made the surprise free tuition announcement during the annual white coat ceremony where 93 first year students are presented with their white lab coats to mark the start of their medical education and this was the reaction. [cheers and applause] >> they will no longer charge tuition for all current and future students. the annual tuition at nyu is $55,000 a year and the average nyu med student graduated from year with $184,000 in debt. no longer charging for tuition
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and nyu says is a moral imperative to keep young people from graduating with crushing debt. >> this is about keeping people on the path to medicine, one. two, once they get into medicine, these crushing levels of debt can adversely impact physician's decision making. >> i was a little worried how i would handle my debt. this opens up a lot of opportunities for people who may not have been able to afford medical school. >> the university believes it will increase diversity in the field and it's the first top ten medical program to offer free medical education. the university said too many medical students were choosing medical fields based on high pay because of the staggering debt they incurred so the medical school hopes more students will go into less lucrative fields like primary care and pediatrics. the school says they've raised more than $450 million of the $600 million needed to fund in
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tuition-free initiative. students will still have to pay for room and board which runs about $27,000 a year. still a good deal considering the average medical student graduates from about $192,000 in debt, which is something. leland: we can only imagine to what's going to happen to application numbers next year, thanks. kristin: can you imagine if you were in the class that just missed it. leland: that would hurt. kristin: and democratic leadership is eyeing a blue wave in congress, but some democrats are eyeing a change in their own leadership. why they say it may be time for nancy pelosi to step aside and more fallout over president trump's pulling of john brennan's security clearance. we'll have more on that story straight ahead.
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♪ ♪ >> welcome back to america's news headquarters from washington, i'm kristin fisher, nice to be with you, leland. leland: saturday but still a lot of news. hour two, we promised it, and we will deliver. we check the headlines. president trump considering pulling the security clearance of more obama-era officials and a current doj official. reaction from a house democrat. he's got a lot to say about this. kristin: many democrats are keeping their distance from nancy pelosi. will it help them in november? leland: and on the gop side, will president trump's many trips to battleground states bring his promised red wave?
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♪ ♪ leland: and this is going to be an issue throughout the campaign really. president trump saying he is likely to revoke the security clearance of current justice department official bruce orr more his connections to fusion gps and dossier author christopher steele. his base loves this. kristin: on the heels of his call to strip former cia director john brennan's security clearance earlier this week. we've got jennifer griffin here. jennifer, what a treat to have you. what's the latest on this story? >> reporter: well, thank you, kristin. there are very clear signs that president trump is preparing to strip the security clearances of eight more top former intelligence officials and one current justice department employee for their role in the russia probe or their criticism of the president in recent months. in an interview with rachel maddow last night, former cia director john brennan spoke at length after having his security clearance revoked. >> the fact that he's using a
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security clearance of a former cia director as a pawn in his public relations strategy, i think, is just so reflective of somebody who, quite frankly, i don't want to use this term maybe, but he's drunk on power. he really is. and i think he's abusing the powers of that office. >> reporter: among those now in the president's sights, former head of the fbi james comey, former dni james clapper among others. "the washington post" reports last night that the white house had drafted orders from the president for more security clearances to be revoked. of particular note is a justice department prosecutor who works in the organized crime division who most people had not heard of until recently, bruce orr. he was demoted by deputy attorney general rod rosenstein early on in the mueller probe after it was revealed that he had contact with christopher steele, the former mi-6 spy, who compiled an unverified dossier that included allegations russia
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had dirt on president trump including a tape. orr's wife nelly worked for fusion gps, an opposition research firm hired by the clinton campaign to investigate any ties to trump had to russia. president trump hinted at what is likely to be his next move while leaving the white house friday. >> i think bruce orr is a disgrace. i suspect i'll be taking it away very quickly. i think that bruce orr is a disgrace with his wife nelly. for him to be in the justice department and to be doing what he did, that is a disgrace. >> reporter: bruce orr is slated to testify to the house oversight committee on capitol hill on august 28th. there are bound to be a lot of questions there. kristin: one thing i wanted to hit on, this letter that was signed by so many former cia directors who have served every president going back to ronald reagan. put this in perspective for us. how big of a deal is this? >> reporter: well, it's a big deal if you look at the original letter from 12 former cia
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directors and top officials, some of them deputy directors, you had that letter. and then last night another letter with 60 signatures of very well known, top cia officials saying that this is an attempt by the president to stifle free speech. now, that being said, the president has the right to revoke security clearances, it just hasn't been done before, and many are asking why it wasn't the cia to revoke john brennan's clearance if he had done something they felt was egregious. the cia has been very quiet about this, dni coats said he was not aware of this decision before it happened. leland: you've got sort of these two camps here, the national security apparatus that is taking the president to task on this. on the other side of this, you've got the president's defenders whether they be in the house of representatives, whether they be in the senate or part of his political groups. is there any crossover from the national security apparatus to
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the defensive trump camp? -- to the defense of trump camp? >> reporter: well, it's interesting. i've heard arguments on both sides -- leland: even from people within the national security -- >> reporter: well, you know, we heard from dan hoffman who is now a contributor here at fox news. he was a former cia station chief in moscow, and he was defending the president's right to do this. he had his own arguments, but, you know, dan hoffman is a longtime-serving member of the cia, and he does not have a political axe to grind with, when it comes to this. so it was not just a political issue. there are different arguments, but what was most interesting last night was hearing john brennan on rachel mad dow warn of what he is concerned could be a wag the dog type situation where the president who's feeling cornered because of the mueller probe, because of other issues whether it's the omarosa book coming out this week, concern that he might start a national security crisis, even start a war. that was the suggestion of john
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brennan last night. he's concerned that the president right now is cornered and using this to stifle his critics and that it may not end well. kristin: what do you think would happen if president trump does, indeed, go down that list that he's made and revoke all of their security clearances? >> reporter: well, he has the right to do so. but john brennan said last night that national security lawyers have reached out to him to, and they believe that there is a case that could be brought that could stop in this the courts. and what we've seen in the past with things that the president has done through executive order, the courts have stepped in. so the question is will john brennan and others pursue some sort of legal method for stopping this. but, again, the damage is done. the chilling effect is already being pelt, i think -- being felt, i think, among intelligence officials. most notable if you look this week though, the top officials are coming out like bill mccraven, the admiral, the navy seal admiral who oversaw
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the bin laden raid, that was unprecedented for him to say this is mccarthy era style tactics and to ask him to revoke his clear,. there is -- clearance. there is a circling of the wagons, and this fight is far from over. leland: so far especially, as you know, from people outside or retired, gina haskell, others haven't spoken out about this yet. jen griffin, thank you very much. kristin: thank you for coming in on a weekend. leland: welcome back anytime. i'm sure you can't wait to spend saturdays with us. [laughter] the jury in paul manafort's trial has the weekend off, they will continue deliberations on monday. this as we are learning more about how long former trump campaign adviser george papadopoulos could spend in jail for lying to the fbi. garrett tenney with us on this. hi, garrett. >> reporter: it was george papadopoulos' contacts with russians that helped kick start the fbi's collusion investigation. he has already are pleaded guilty to lying to the fbi, and
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for that special counsel mueller is now recommending the former trump campaign adviser be sentenced to up to six months in prison along with a fine of $9500. according to the sentencing memorandum that mueller's team filed last night, papadopoulos, quote, lied repeatedly about his contacts with russians and russian intermediaries to minimize both his own role as a witness and the extent of the campaign's knowledge of his contacts. papadopoulos is scheduled to be sentenced on september 7th. next week though former trump campaign chairman paul manafort is expected to learn his fate in the first of two cases the special counsel has brought against him. after 14 hours of deliberation, the jury has not reached a verdict, and they won't be at it again until monday morning since the judge gave them the weekend off. manafort's attorneys are feeling pretty confident about their chances given the fact that the jury is still in deliberations. >> how are you feeling going into this weekend? >> very good.
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very, very optimistic about a fair trial. >> deliberating longer it favors your client? >> i do. and he does. >> reporter: the judge also ruled friday that the names of the jurors will not be made public and said it was because he has already received threats to his own safety as a result of this trial and releasing the jurors' names could put them in danger as well. leland? leland: garrett tenney there. obviously, our crews at the courtroom early monday morning on verdict watch. thanks, garrett. with that, we bring in democratic connecticut congressman jim himes for more insight. nice to see you, sir. appreciate you being with us. you heard manafort's defense attorneys. they're optimistic. if this comes back as an acquittal, what does it do for democrats continuing to hammer away on russia, russia, russia, mueller, mueller, mueller? >> well, i don't think it does a lot. i mean -- leland: really? >> yeah, no, i don't.
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look, what manafort is charged with, he's charged with money laundering and tax fraud. none of these charges pertain to communications, collusion, any sort of relationship with russia. now, it is interesting to look at the contacts that he had with russian oligarchs, with the ukrainian president -- leland: but, congressman, typically in these cases they go after the lowest hanging fruit first. if mueller can't even get a conviction on what is conceivably his lowest hanging fruit, they haven't brought any charges about collusion. so far there isn't any evidence of collusion, if that is a crime which it's not, but there hasn't been any evidence of crimes committed between the trump campaign and russia. you're telling me an acquittal in their first trial isn't a big deal? >> i don't think it is, and i completely disagree with you that there isn't evidence of collusion. there was a meeting in trump tower where the president's son said we're getting good stuff from the russians. the president lied about what the nature of that meeting was about. george papadopoulos, you know, looking for dirt when he was in europe. look, we're way past the point
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where there's no very clear evidence of collusion. leland: congressman, we can argue, and people will debate, honest people have a good conversation about whether or not the trump meeting rises to the level of collusion. there is no statute against collusion. clearly, the special counsel knows about the trump tower meeting. he knows about the president's statements about it. he knows about don jr.'s statements about it, he's not chosen to charge anybody based on any of that evidence, so how is that that evidence of a crime? >> yet. yet. yet, right? you know, so long as the president doesn't have his way, mueller will finish his work, and we will see. look, he's issued something like 30 indictments already. there's been guilty pleas, people are being sentenced. so to say there's no evidence that just because a charge hasn't been rendered, that there is no evidence, that's just not true. there's plenty of evidence of collusion. we know that the trump campaign wanted the russians to give them help. the president asked for it on
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national television. the question, as you point out, is whether there was a crime committed, and we're not going to know the answer until special counsel mueller finishes his work. leland: as rudy giuliani will tell you many times, there is that rule in the justice department that you don'tish is shoe politically-sensitive indictments 60 days before an election. that window closes in september, so we may not know in terms of any type of final conclusions of the mueller investigation. the one thing we do know right now is about sort of this split in the democratic party. you've got democratic socialists, you've got the old guard. the race for democrats to win the house back, there's the debate over who is the true leaders of the democratic party. i don't think i need to tell you this, but i'll remind our viewers three leaders in the democratic house caucus -- nancy pelosi, 78 years old, steny hoyer, 79 years old, james clyburn, 78 years old. you put those numbers together, you get 235, that's roughly the age of the republic itself.
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do democrats need to coalesce around new, younger leadership if they're going to win the house back come november? >> the answer to that question is absolutely not. you know, there aren't voters in my district in connecticut, and i don't think there's voters in ohio or colorado or california or wyoming who say, gosh, let's see, i've got a republican and a democrat, and what i really care about is what -- who's going to be the top three democratic leaders in the house of representatives. that's absurd. what they care about is who's going to help me educate my kids, who's going to create jobs -- leland: congressman, there are democrats, conor lamb, who won based on an ad in which he said i won't vote for nancy pelosi. other democrats on the air saying i won't vote for nancy pelosi. correct me if i'm wrong, but typically campaigns don't spend ad money on issues they don't think voters care about. >> there will be plenty of candidates who say exactly that, there are. there are sitting members of congress who are saying i'm not
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going to vote that way and sitting members who are saying the other thing, that they're going to vote for her. in fact, look, what voters care about -- and i'm in this business of talking to voters -- they care about is the economy doing well, can i educate my kids, can i retire, am i going to have the access to health care, and that's what's going to drive this election, not whether nancy pelosi or somebody else is leading house democrats next year. leland: okay. well, democrats sure seem to think if you're running for the house of representatives you've got to talk a lot about donald trump, so why shouldn't republicans be talking about nancy pelosi as an issue? you've got 15 seconds -- >> you know what? they should, they absolutely should. you know why? because they've got nothing else to talk about. they're not talking about their tax reform plan because it's got 41% approval because americans have figured out that the tax reform delivered an immense amount of their children's money to corporations and very wealthy people, so they should talk about nancy pelosi because they don't have a darn thing otherwise to talk about. leland: at least the president seems to think it's a winning strategy.
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we'll see if it is. congressman, we sure appreciate you being here. thank you. >> you bet. good to be with you, leland. kristin: let's continue the conversation with political analyst larry sabato. i would love to pick up where leland left off -- leland: it was such a great place, right? [laughter] kristin: with house minority leader nancy pelosi. we're seeing a growing number of sitting congressmen and women coming out and saying it's time for new leadership. do you think this is a smart strategy heading into november >> yeah, i'm glad it's you and not leland -- [laughter] i'm glad it's you. kristin: are you saying i'm a soft interviewer? come on, now i've got to be tough on you. >> no. [laughter] i'm just saying you're very nice. that's something leland knows nothing about. [laughter] kristin: i agree. >> kidding, leland. i'm kidding. leland: uh-huh. >> look, nancy pelosi is obviously in trouble. six months ago we had 15 likely
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winners who are democrats for the house saying they weren't going to vote for her. there's now about 50 counting some people who probably won't get elected, but that's an a awful lott of people from your caucus saying you're not going to win. plus, the republicans are airing lots of ads against vulnerable democrats trying to tie them to nancy pelosi or make them take a stand about whether or not they'll vote for her for speaker. so of course she's an issue. kristin: to be fair, there's also issues with the republican leadership. not necessarily from within their own party like it is with the democrats, but a political -- a super pac came out yesterday, a pac that supports house democrats with a blistering ad against the current republican leadership. watch this. ♪ >> jim jordan, remind you of joe paterno? kevin mccarthy, paul ryan's protege, with a lot of baggage. and steve scalise, leaked to kkk
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leader david duke. no wonder they aren't looking out for you. kristin: i mean, that's a personal, pretty vicious ad. what do you think of that strategy? >> yeah. and the whole thing's even more vicious than the piece you showed. look, the democrats are trying to elevate or really put fire back in the old culture of corruption issue that they used successfully in 2006 to change the house from republican to democratic. the culture of corruption worked in 2006. in 2018 i don't think it's going to cut quite as much mainly because donald trump and the incumbent administration is kind of the center of a midterm election. that's normally true, but it's more true than it's ever been because every day we have ten new issues from the trump administration. so i don't know that it will cut that much. but in some districts, it might have an effect. kristin: so, i know we're still
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80 days away, but you're famous for your crystal ball. so with 80 days to go, who's going to win the house, who's going to win the senate? >> yeah, no more cracks, please, in the crystal ball. [laughter] let's say on the house we're calling the democrats soft favorites which means that if you have a blue wave, we don't think at the current time it's going to be one of these tsunamis that wins you 40, 50, 60 seats. it looks to us with democrats needing 23 more like they're just over that number right now. maybe it'll grow before november or maybe it'll pop back. but right now they're soft favorites to take over the house by some modest margin. the senate's another matter entirely. that is likely to continue to be republican. it would take an inside straight times three for democrats to hold on to the senate because of the seats that are up. you only have a third of the seats up, and the democrats are having to defend 26 of those seats. so it means they have the lion's
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share of territory to defend. ten of those seats are in states that donald trump carried by a mile. kristin: 80 days to go, we'll see if your predictions hold. larry sabato, thank you. >> they're soft predictions, very soft. [laughter] leland: we have a tape, larry. >> there you go. okay. [laughter] leland: gunfire at a high school football game, what police think started everything. plus, espn vowing to keep the national anthem off the air this football season. here's a great question, will players stop kneeling without the cameras rolling? and firefighters in california still hard at work trying to save thousands of homes from the flames. adam klotz in our fox extreme weather center tracking if there is any help from mother nature, boy, do they need it, adam. >> reporter: yeah, they certainly do, leland. there has been some rain activity in the last 24 hours, still completely dry along the west coast. i'm going to let you know if that's the case in the next
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couple of days coming up with my full forecast after the break. ♪ ♪
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heavy rain. more than 300,000 people already in emergency relief camps. 80,000 acres of land have been impacted since monsoon season began. kristin: at least one person has been killed fighting raging bush fires in south wales, australia. many residents in that region have been forced to evacuate. that fire is just one of more than 70 burning across southern australia. strong winds and dry brush fueling the fire, making it increasingly dangerous and difficult to manage. leland: all right. we've got the fires there in california, now officials confirming one fire fighter was killed by a record-size fire tornado while fighting wildfires in that state. the fire tornado was the size of three football fields, had winds up to 165 miles an hour. that firefighter was jeremy stoke. he was caught in the fast moving blaze while helping with evacuations at the end of july.
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kristin: wow. meteorologist adam klotz joins us from the fox extreme weather center with the latest on these dry conditions that continue fueling these california fires. is there any end in sight, adam? >> reporter: unfortunately, yeah, it's just going to continue to be incredibly hot across the west coast. it's going to continue to be really dry. temperatures again in a lot of these locations that we're talking about, especially in northern california today, running up over triple digits, 104 in redding. this heat is partly what's been fueling some of in this activity and then, again, we just haven't been getting the rain we've needed to see. for your sunday forecast, running back up to 103 degrees. it's staying hot in some of these spots where they need the rain the worst. they're not getting it. now, the winds have backed off a little bit. elevated fire danger in the pink or the orange, that isn't happening, but notice everything in the gray. these are areas where the air quality's low. it's been so warm that typically as -- adds to poor air quality, it's going to be tough to breathe in some of these areas
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especially for the elderly or really young in all spots where they've been dealing with wildfires here it's lath several weeks -- last several weeks. as far as rainfall goes, spots where they do need it, also some of the inner western states, they have been seeing some rain in the last several days, but spots up and down the west coast where you desperately need it, colorado, running into oregon and washington, there is no rain currently, and there's no rain on the way. this is our future forecast showing potential rainfall here in the next seven days, and these are all rainfall totals. you do see some of the inner western states continuing to get that rain but bone dry all the way up and down the west coast. some of these spots where they need it the worst, unfortunately, they aren't going to get it. the story's cleat completely different on the eastern half of the country where rain seems to fall like every couple of days, always 3-4 inches. we're going to continue to see that activity as we're looking at rain tracking at least scattered showers across the eastern portion of the state throughout your saturday, eventually maybe clearing off
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later saturday night. but rain in the mid-atlantic, up to new england, these are all things folks are going to be dealing with on this saturday. the biggest storms across the country today, those are happening here in the plains states. this is a line we're paying attention to running into the overnight hours, there's your timing. afternoon, evening, overnight, that line could produce some severe weather, at least our best chance highlighting portions of north texas and running up across the plains states. guys, there is a lot going on, a lot of rain across the country. but, yeah, unfortunately, the rain where we really need it, that just isn't going to be coming in the next couple of days. kristin: i'm heading to maine tomorrow, and i do not hike your forecast there there, but i won't hold it against you. [laughter] leland: did anybody hear the tiny violin starting to play in the background? [laughter] cm crn stop it, leland. leland: two men were shot at a high school football game if palm beach, florida, after an altercation. two adult victims were not students in the school system. one victim was taken to the hospital by authorities while
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one victim was taken to the hospital by a friend. their condition is currently unknown. the palm beach sheriff's office says they're investigating the incident but do not describe it as an active shooter situation. press conference later today. kristin: well, espn says it will not air the national anthem during monday night football for a second season in a row. espn notified the nfl to be good partners. the nfl, as well as president trump, has come down hard on players kneeling as a form of protest starting in 2016 and, you know, leland and i were talking about this during the break, but i wonder if the cameras are not rolling, will the players continue to kneel? what do you think? leland: i don't know. you know, if they want to make a political statement, that's the big question with, right? kristin: the cameras aren't rolling -- leland: you've got 80,000 people in the stadium, still photographers, you also have the cameras of the other networks that are going to cover that. you made a good point though about the nfl coming down hard on these players.
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they came down hard and now they've backed way off. i talked to a sports columnist down in texas a little while ago who said now it's becoming sort of team by team. the politics of the city are now dictating what the owners individually do. jerry jones made it clear how he felt. kristin: i'm just all for anything that cuts the football game shorter. anything that makes the game shorter, i'm all for it. leland: right. so we can watch our bravo tv. cm. kristin: that's not what i watch. i don't know what you're talking about. leland: we'll talk to walker about that. a former cia director is speaking out after president trump revoked his security clearance. our political panel weighs in on that and the possibility of the white house revoking more security clearances. what does that mean politically? and the white house dealing with, fallout from omarosa's interviews. elleson barber in new jersey where the president's spending the weekend wishing he wasn't thinking about omarosa. >> reporter: yeah, leland. the white house is trying not to
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♪ ♪ leland: the reality show continues, former white house aide omarosa man galt newman and her tell-all book, well, the must publicity tour continues. she says there are still bombshell details and possibly tapes she hasn't released yet. that coming from the associated press. ellison barber live near bedminster where the president is staying and tweeting this weekend. hi, ellison. >> reporter: hey, leland. yeah, there are reports omarosa could have as many as 200 secretly recorded tapes, and now we are learning she could also have text messages and e-mails as well according to a new report in the associated press that cites a person with direct knowledge of the records. man gault newman has a stash of
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e-mails, videos, text messages and other documentation supporting the claims in her tell-all book with. she released secret recordings of white house chief of staff john kelly firing her and one with the president's daughter-in-law offering her a job with the campaign, something she claims was part of an effort, in her view, to silence her. the former reality star and white house aide has repeatedly suggest she has more taped to release. the white house says she breached a 2016 confidentiality agreement. simon and schuster, the publisher of the book, sent a letter to the trump campaign's legal counsel saying their clients would not be intimidated by hollow legal threats and that they were acting well within their rights. the president has called his former aide deranged, wacky, a low life and a dog. >> i think it's sad that with all the things that's going on in the country that he would take time out to insult me and to insult my intelligence.
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this is his pattern with african-americans, and he doesn't know how to control himself. he has no impulse control. >> the president is certainly voicing his frustrationing with the fact that this person has shown a complete lack of integrity particularly by the actions following her time here at the white house. this has absolutely nothing to do with race. >> reporter: the president does not have any public events on his schedule today, but he's tweeting quite a bit on everything from social media censorship to china to the economy. leland? leland: ellison barber in new jersey, ellison, thank you. kristin? kristin: well, still ahead, outrage over the trump administration pulling former cia director john brennan's security clearance, but the trump administration is not done yet. they may revoke even more. our political panel weighs in. ♪ minor accident - no big deal, right? wrong. your insurance company is gonna raise
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leland: a former cricket star turned politician, there he is, was sworn in as pakistan's new prime minister today despite protests by opposition parties claiming the nation's powerful security services rigged the vote. khan secured 176 votes, defeated the opposition candidates of the pakistan muslim league and the national assembly vote khan promises what he calls ruthless accountability to combat corruption. good luck. ♪ ♪ kristin: unprecedented, that's how more than 70 former national security officials are describing president trump's decision to strip john brennan's security clearance. and now president trump's threatening to do the same thing to other officials who have been critical of his administration. so let's bring in republican strategist and cofounder kevin paul scott and run for something cofounder and former hillary clinton e-mail director amanda litman. amanda and kevin, thank you so much for being with us. i want to start with something that brennan himself said last night on rachel maddow.
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watch this. >> the fact that he's using a security clearance of a former cia director as a pawn in his public relations strategy, i think, is just so reflect i have of somebody who, quite frankly -- i don't want to use this term maybe -- but he's drunk on power. of. kristin: drunk on power. quite a phrase. kevin, i'll start with you. do you agree? [laughter] >> well, i think john brennan could also be accused of being drunk on power. look, if trump goes on this spree of revoking security clearances of people who are political opponents, that is not going to stand, it's not going to work, it's unconstitutional. unfortunately, for the critics of this administration, there's enough meat there to justify revoking john brennan's security clearance. when you read the press be release from the white house, the entire idea that he lied to congress in 2014, unfortunately, there's just not a lot to defend john brennan on on this one. kristin: amanda, jump in here.
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what do you make of the phrase drunk on power? >> i think it's absolutely right. he is acting completely unchecked by congress. it's unconstitutional, it's unprecedented, and it sets a precedent moving forward that if the president doesn't like what someone is saying, he can restrict their right to say it. it's undemocratic. kristin: so there has been this avalanche of opposition to this from former national security officials, 12 former senior intelligence officials put out a letter, and i want to read you part of it right now. they say we all agree that the president's actions regarding john brennan and the threats of similar action against other officials have nothing to do with who should and should not hold security clearances and everything to do with an attempt to stifle free speech. kevin, do you see this as an attempt to stifle free speech? >> there's no question that you could point to that and use that as an excuse. i'm not saying that the president isn't trying to stifle free speech, and if he is, that is an issue. but john brennan, let's talk about john brennan. this is a guy who has had
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erratic behavior. he accused the president of treason, but more than that in 2014 he lied to congress about investigating congressional staffers. it's been proven that he was wrong. that's enough cause. if, again, if the president continues to do it, that's an issue. on john brennan there's enough justification on this one that it's really tough. kristin: but it's not just john brennan, right? it's -- president trump has put out a list of -- >> but that's the only one he has currently, the only one he's currently revoked. kristin: right. but "the washington post" is now reporting that the white house has draft canned documents for the revoking of security clearances for all of the other people on that list and that they're just waiting for the right time, the right unfortunate news cycle to get that out. fox news has not confirmed that. but, amanda, what do you make of that washington post report that they have these drafts all lined up ready to go? >> that's the president's m.o., when there's a news cycle he doesn't like, he tries to change the story. the fact that he's let general michael flynn, jared kushner
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maintain their security clearance while deciding this particular guy who has spoken out against him on tv and twitter is the one to throw a temper tantrum over? that's -- it is a little drunk on power. kristin: so now we have democratic senator warner putting out, trying to put out an amendment to the defense bill which would essentially block president trump from revoking security clearances, trying to put a check on the president's power. but president trump is within his authority to do this, right? >> yeah. and the keyword here is arbitrarily. i actually don't disagree with mark warner's amendment. i'm okay with that. but the issue is when he says arbitrarily, you could argue that john brennan's security clearance has not been revoked arbitrarily, that there is justification and reason for it. so if mark warner's amendment passes, it would not change what happened to john brennan. that's just the facts. >> yeah, but the president specifically told "the wall street journal" the reason he
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took away brennan's security clearance was because he was making noise into the russia investigation. >> and that is problematic. but the press release from the white house, there's plenty of justification for this action. the issue will be if he continues to do it. >> i don't know who to believe here. kristin: i've got to leave it there, but this is not over yet. and, in fact, last night john brennan himself said he's considering taking legal action against this. not necessarily to get his own security clearance back, but to perhaps prevent this from happening some of his former colleagues as well. a lot to debate there, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. leland: the independent alaskan governor now faces challengers from both the left and the right. he's up next to explain how his race has national implications. and a big honor for some hard working pups. they're also really cute to put on television. be we're going to tell you what these four-legged graduates will do -- kristin: oh, look at that. leland: -- yeah, with their new skills. ♪dot ♪
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kristin: primary voters in two states tao the polls tuesday. wyoming has the governor's race, and alaska is having democratic and republican primaries for both governor and house races. president trump won both those states in 2016, but democrats
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are hoping to make inroads in both states. leland: all right. alaska also votes on tuesday, and in alaska democrats are hoping to build on their success from 2017 in the governor's races when new jersey and virginia both went blue. but the former republican turned independent governor thinks hekking hold on to his seat and, get this, he faces challenges both from the left and right. governor bill walker joining us now from the beautiful city of anchorage. appreciate you getting up early for us, sir. it's interesting when you look at this race, your tagline for your campaign is alaska before politics. seems these days the only thing that matters is politics, and you're in a state that went heavily for president trump. >> well, we are a state that did vote heavily for trump, and we're a resource state. i think that had a lot to do with it. so, you know, i'm the only
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independent governor in the nation, and i'm very pleased to be independent. the lieutenant governor is democrat, i'm independent. we formed the unity ticket, and it's a great way to govern when you're just doing what's best for your state. leland: you have this unity ticket, but you've got challengers from the right, you've got two republicans running on tuesday who want to face you, and you've got now a challenger from the left. it's tough to be in the middle, isn't it? >> i think it's very comfortable in the middle. i think there's a lot of room in the middle and, actually, the vast majority of alaskans are registered as independent, nonpartisan, so i represent the largest group in alaska. a lot of support comes from the republicans, a lot from the democrats. so we draw from both sides, and that's the advantage of being in the middle. leland: fair to say the last couple of years in alaska have been pretty tough especially when it come toss the budget, and both republicans are saying they want to increase and put back the payment that is made to
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every alaskan every year by the state out of the oil fund, something that you pared back. are they promising too much? >> well, it has to be sustainable. i mean, going out and having sort of election assurances on what you'll do, you know, you have to be able to actually do it and follow through. i make decisions based on the future of alaska, not the future of my political desires. so i have put, i've butt alaska before that. -- put alaska before that. i've made some extremely unpopular decisions, but that's part of the job description. and because i don't have a party, i just have a state, i have to -- i always put my state first ahead of myself. so tough decisions at tough times, the biggest deficit we've ever had in our state. leland: i understand the model that you're going after, and in saying that, in practicing it at least from the the cursory reading i've done of alaska, you've certainly taken some political hits for things you thought were the right thing to do. is that possible in this day and
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age? what makes alaska different from the rest of the country that doesn't seem to be honoring those thoughts very much? >> well, i think alaska is different because we are, we are a bit removed from the lower 48, as we refer to. we are a very independent state. we do live off our resources differently. we are very unique in alaska so, you know, i think that alaskans are looking for, you know, they look at the vision of the future, not just the vision of the future of one particular candidate or another. so, you know, i think that they respect, there's a lot of pushback for what i've had to do, there's also many that come up and say thank you for looking at the future of our state and looking at the long run and putting alaska ahead of politics. leland: that brings up an interesting point, because you have been huge in your outreach to china, trying to get trade with china especially a lot of the air freight that comes i through, that comes through anchorage. just yesterday jennifer griffin reporting out of the pentagon fears by the pentagon about the chinese military increasing its
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threat posture towards or the united states -- towards the united states. you still okay with embracing china economically in the same way? >> well, our relationship with china, the longest trading partner we've had for the last seven years has been china. before that it was japan. asia is our market, no question about it, because of our strategic location, the kind of products we have. we watch all that very closely. we have a very strong presence in alaska in the military. in fact, number one in the nation, alaska has the strongest presence of military. leland: well, and a lot of king crab you've got to export as well. hopefully, some of them come down here to the lower 48, not all of them get shipped to japan and china. governor, we appreciate your time, sir, and your thoughts, and come back and talk to us. >> all right, sure look forward to it. thanks so much. leland: all right. all the best. kristin? kristin: still ahead, every dog gets his day, but these three are also getting their graduation day. why man's best friend is being recognized before taking on a very important task. ♪
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>> you've got two dog lovers, man's best friend graduating can honors, service dogs participating in graduation ceremony after two years of training after helping people in many ways, another will comfort cancer patients and one witnesses in hawaii's court system. what about the defendants, seems like the defendants in the courtroom -- >> maybe they don't deserve it. if i was going to be a service dog i would want to be the one in the airport.
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>> you would want dog like that. leland: people love you more. on that note, mike emmanuel has made it to new york he and eboni williams will pick it up. ♪ >> president trump taking twitter to continue taking away security clearances including senior justice department official all days after pulling access direct cia director brennan who is directing criticism at the commander in chief. hello welcome to inside america's news headquarters, i'm mike emmanuel. >> and i'm eboni cay williams, the president will move quickly to remove credentials of current doj officials bruise ohr as we learned new documents showing ohr's connection to antitrump dossier. the president's threat comes on the heels of his decision this week to remove john brennan


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