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congress, eight and half months writing this book, i hope we check it out and get it. that is all the time we have tonight. i'm jason chaffetz and for laura ingraham. i'll be back tomorrow night. again, my favorite person at fox news, shannon bream is up next. shannon, take it away. >> shannon: not just because i can't wait to get my hands on your part. is going to be great. thank you, jason. we begin with a fox news alert with the president trailing a crowd of west virginia asking, wears a collusion, as he says investigators continue to search for something that's never happens. but there was was a major development survey in a special counsel's investigation. it appears president trump's former attorney going from the white house to the big house. michael cohen reaching a deal with the prosecutors that does include paul.my jail time. paul manafort convicted on eight counts of tax and bank fraud. none of the 18 connected to president trump or his campaign. stick around as our panel of legal experts break down exactly
what today's developments do i don't mean. plus president trump hitting hard on immigration and democratic trade policies, and i suspect in the murder of 20-year-old mollie tibbetts has been identified as an illegal immigrant and there is more. we'll talk to a mother who knows that pain all too well. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. we start off with the president's longtime personal attorney michael cohen pleading guilty to eight charges of tax fraud, bank fraud, and campaign finance violations. stemming from hush money payments to adults for stormy daniels and ex-"playboy" model karen mcdougal. in reaching a deal with prosecutors in new york, cohen agreed to be on time but it's what he didn't agree to that is important as well. we have team coverage, garrett tenney following the paul manafort verdict but we begin with chief national correspondent ed henry on the michael cohen deal. good evening, ed. >> shannon, great to see you. breaking breaking tonight, dramc developments in the michael cohen case could be the most dramatic one of all, because it
could be more damaging to president trump because he was directly implicated here, unlike the paul manafort case that you mentioned, has nothing to do with the president or the 2016 campaign. that may explain why in the president's initial comments today, he leaned in on the manafort development, proving, he said, it was a witch hunt while he said nothing on cohen, who will get present time between 43 and 63 months on charges of bank fraud and tax evasion, plus campaign finance charges that seem to directly point to the president for the president's attorney, rudy giuliani, said just the opposite in a written statement. "there is no allegation of any wrongdoing against the president and the government's charges against mr. cohen. it is clear that as a prosecutor noted, mr. cohen's actions reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty of her are period of time." cohen's plea deal alleges he broke the law to influence the 2016 election on behalf of an unnamed candidate who clearly is the president.
one of cohen's attorneys, lanny davis, tweeted "today he sturtevant testified under oath that donald trump directed him to commit a crime by making payments to trick a woman for the principal purpose of influencing an election. if those payments were a crime for michael cohen, then why wouldn't they be a crime for donald trump"? a reference to payments to two woman who alleged affairs of the president that he is he is vehemently denied. stormy daniels and karen mcdougal. this plea deal directly conflicts what julianne told fox in may that no campaign finance law was broken. >> having something to do with paying some stormy daniels woman 130,000 -- i mean, which is going to turn out to be perfectly legal. that money was not campaign money. sorry, i'm giving you a fact now that you don't know. it's not campaign money. no campaign finance violation. speak with they funneled through a law firm? >> funneled it through a law
firm and the president prepaid at. >> that contradiction raises questions about whether the president or anyone else in the campy leadership in 2016 will be implicated plus there is a civil case that stormy daniels lawyer michael avenatti filed months ago. he tweaked his night... so giuliani has spent all this time warning about a perjury trap if the president talks to the special counsel. remember, it was a civil suit in the paula jones case, not a criminal matter, that eventually led to the investigation that sparked bill clinton's impeachment inside the white house tonight obviously, they are hoping up at the link that happens here tonight. >> shannon: ed henry with the latest details. thank you. i don't affirm or trump campaign chairman paul manafort. the verdict is in, guilty on eight counts of bank and tax fraud. ten charges the jury could not
reach an agreement. correspondent garrett tenney is here. >> even stress those eight guilty charges, paul manafort could be spending the rest of those of his life behind bars. they found him guilty on eight of the 18 charges he was facing. five counts of tax fraud, two counts of bank fraud. one count of hiding a foreign bank account. altogether, the former trump campaign chairman is facing a maximum sentence of 80 years in prison which would essentially be a life sentence for the 69-year-old eyes for the remaining ten counts, judge t.s. ellis declared him a trial on those charges come after the jury wrote them a note saying, l auctions, we've reached a verdict, not able to reach a verdict on head of the counts." afterward, his attorney says they have a lot to evaluate for manafort's second trial. >> mr. manafort is disappointed of not getting acquittals all the way through or a complete hung jury on all count however,
he would like to think judge ellis for granting him a fair trial, think the jury for their very long and hard fought deliberations. he is evaluating all of his options at this point. >> tonight president trump reacted to the guilty verdict of his former campaign chairman by slamming the special counsel's investigation, calling it a witch hunt and a disgrace. >> paul manafort is a good man, he was with ronald reagan, he was with a lot of different people over the years. i feel really sad about that. it involved -- it doesn't involve me but it's a very sad t happened, had nothing to do with russian collusion. >> up on capitol hill, democrats and republicans are also weighing in, not surprisingly, with very different reactions to this guilty verdict. >> i suspect that it sends some
shock waves through the white house, the tweets will be otherwise. >> here's the take away of the counts, none of them suggested he colluded with the russians but it does suggest that he was a tainted businessman. >> paul manafort back and court on august 29th when we will have a chance to hear from him for the first time since the trial started. we'll still be seeing a lot more of him in court because he's facing separate charges and a trail that kicks off next month including charges of lying to the fbi, money laundering, witness tampering, and failing to register as a foreign agent. legal problems for paul manafort, far from over. >> shannon: garrett, thank you. from manafort to cohen, a whole lot of legal news to dig into. let's break it down to doug burns and white collar crime and security's attorney andrew stoltmann. thank you both for being with us tonight. >> my pleasure. >> andrew, we got this verdict tonight, 8 out of 18 counts going against manafort. but what again this is how to do
with russian or collusion? >> it doesn't have anything to do with russia or collusion, and obviously it is not a good day for president trump but of the same sense, it's not exactly a great day for the special counsel's office. you have 18 charges, convictions on eight, and you have ten with respect to a mistrial, and i don't think it's as bad as what too many in the media wanted to appear. again, not a good day for the president but by no means cataclysmic for him. >> shannon: let's talk about judge ellis. we'll move onto the cohen trial -- excuse me, the plea deal. the judge in this manafort trial, judge ellis, said "you don't really care about mr. manafort's bank fraud, you really care about what information he might give you about mr. trump and what might lead to his impeachment or prosecution." do they make any progress on that front? >> not necessarily. i've said all along, you could look at the case in isolation, obviously, a strong case for tax evasion and bank fraud again in
isolation or you can look at it in context, which is what you guys have been saying, that the special counsel has veered way off course from where it originally started in what he was supposed to be looking at. that does nothing to do with russia or collusion, all of the points that everybody's been making, but the reality is, they won 8 out of 18 counts, but remember something, shannon, it is this judge was going to do this on sentencing. sentencing is up to the judge. the sentencing guidelines are advisory, not mandatory. it is going to be interesting to see what judge ellis comes up with the terms of the sentence. all the stuff about 80 years is a little bit silly, overblown, because under the guidelines, you group everything together and do come up with one unified range. >> shannon: still, for manafort, whatever he gets, it will be significant given his age. he is he facing trial in september in d.c. on a slew of charges. this move to cohen. this is a man who was once the president's personal attorney. his so-called fixer, by his own
and many other accounts. today he entered into a deal, which essentially he agreed to, plead guilty, to a felony charges, and he's agreed to some kind of jail time. what we are told is there is no agreement for him to cooperate per se with the folks putting these cases together. he avoids a trial, and he doesn't give them any additional "dirt" on the president. andrew cuomo what you make of that? is alan dershowitz said today, it is the first thing that directly touch of the president, that escalate the risk for president trump. >> there is no question it does. mr. cohen slipping is obviously not good for the president. but at the same sense, it really is a tempest in a teapot. we are talking about glorified jaywalking. we are talking about something that shouldn't be an impeachable offense and has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with russia. so i get why this is alicia's, i get why the press loves it because in large part to have payments going to playboy models and to porn dara spray to
get the issue but with respect to the collusion investigation, and the special counsel, this entire thing is relatively meaningless unless mr. cohen has additional information that we don't know about yet. presidents don't get impeached for campaign finance violations, typically, it's a slap on the risk, it's a fine, and that is it. so you have to judge the credibility of who we are talking about here. mr. cohen has problems that go back a long, long time and that is the true issue in this case. >> shannon: alan dershowitz said he's not the ideal witness but you mention whether he might have other things that he wants to share with prosecutors. here is what lanny davis, michael cohen's attorney, said tonight about what he may have left to offer. >> i can tell you that mr. cohen has knowledge on certain subjects that should be of interest to the special counsel and is more than happy to tell the special counsel all that he knows, not just about the
obvious possibility of a conspiracy to collude and corrupt the american democracy system and the 2016 election, which, the trump tower meeting was all about. >> shannon: doug, what does that say to you? what method are they sending tonight? >> it was fascinating because, eight, he's not cooperating, no cooperation agreement 10b, this hockey analogy, they slam the president of the boards really hard with michael cohen saying that he directed me to do as my colleague brilliantly says, a minor technical violation, and now all of a sudden, he is the absolute fast unit credibility, that mended he says something that goes anti-trump. of course we believed every word he says. i'm being sarcastic. the point is, it is laughable. they formed that matter after the southern district of new york. now we'll see whether it goes back into mueller. it's really very interesting. >> shannon: i want to ask you to respond to the same thing.
michael avenatti, who is stormy daniels' attorney, he said the developments of today will permit us to have this day lifted in a civil case that they haven't should also permit us te the expedited expedition of trump and what he knew under oath and we will disclose all of it to the public. andrew, how quickly do you think the president will be deposed in this case? >> that makes no sense. there is no reason why this would expedite anything. i think the lawyer has the same credibility as mr. cohen, which is about as good as o.j. simpson's. so i would take what he says with a pound of salt. i don't think this makes any difference with respect to when or if the president will be deposed. >> shannon: doug? >> i like the elevation of a ground dominic green assault of a pound of salt. you are right. i don't see that list will stay in the civil case and i don't see that it will be a quick deposition. i think he is pumping. >> shannon: it seems that both of you feel like this has been
puffed today. we'll wait and see how the ripples come from this. andrew and doug, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> shannon: also, sentencing hearing for terms for my national security advisor michael flynn was once again delayed. this is for the fourth time. remember, flynn pleaded guilty in december to one count of lying to federal investigators about conversations he had with the then-russian abbasid or sergey kislyak. now both sides say they will provide a status report within 30 days. breaking tonight, california congressman and his wife indicted on charges of illegally converting $250,000 in campaign funds for personal expenses and then filing false records. according to the indictment, congressman duncan hunter, a republican quebec used funds to pay for family holidays, school tuition, and dental work break president trump's nominee to be the next supreme court justice george, brett kavanaugh, continues making the rounds on capitol hill. today, he had very two high-profile meetings, one with potential swing for g.o.p.
senator susan collins. and the other was in the top democrat, chuck schumer, prayed with collins, the pair discussed a major concern on the left, ab. >> we talked about whether he considers roe vs. wade to be settled law. he said he agreed with what justice roberts said at his nomination hearing and what he said that it was settled law. >> shannon: collins did not say if she intends to support judge kavanaugh's nomination to the high court. senator chuck schumer said for his meeting with brett kavanaugh, he refused to answer basic questions, saying he did not tell him that roe vs. wade was settled law. we may return, the search for a missing college student mollie tibbetts come to an end. the suspect is in custody. >> we have confirmed with homeland security investigation that he is an illegal alien. we believe he has been in this area now for four to seven years. >> shannon: we have a live
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>> shannon: fox news alert. investigators in iowa say they believe they found the body of a 20-year-old college student who's been missing for a month. they've a suspect in custody, illegal immigrant who is likely been in the area for at least four years. correspondent matt finn's live in igo with the latest in that mollie tibbetts case. good evening, matt. >> shannon, police found the body headed in a cornfield not far from this location. they didn't identify the condition of the body and we don't know an official cause of death. there is an autopsy scheduled but it could be weeks until we get the results from that autopsy. tonight authority say that 24-year-old christian rivera has been charged with first-degree murder in the death of 20-year-old mollie tibbetts. authorities say rivera has been living in this country illegally for four to seven years. police say this morning, he led them to that cornfield about 14 miles away from all the tip is a project he hometown of brooklyn, iowa, and it was there in a cornfield, where they
believe they found the body of mollie tibbetts. police say rivera admitted to them that he chased mollie tibbetts on july 18th while she was out on her jog and she became afraid and asked rivera to get away from her and she said she was going to get out her phone and call police, and rivera says at that point he blacked out and doesn't know what happened next and came to out in this rural area. investigators say they did use a digital footprint to help establish their timeline, perhaps extracting information from mollie's fitbit and iphone. ultimately, it was a surveillance video that showed mollie jogging and rivera's black malibu car that led them to rivera and police say today, he confessed to dumping her body in a cornfield. shannon? >> shannon: matt finn, thank you very much. tonight president trump touched on the mollie tibbetts' case at his rally in west virginia. >> you heard about today with the illegal alien coming in,
very sadly for mexico, and you saw what happened to that incredible, beautiful young woman. she would have never happened. illegally in our country. we've had a huge impact with the laws are so bad, the immigrations are such a disgrace. we are getting them changed. >> shannon: tonight, agnes gibboney, who lost her son to an illegal immigrant, is here to share her unique perspective on the tie-breaking case. retired lieutenant to the las vegas metropolitan police department randy sutton offers office a law enforcement perspective. welcome to you both. >> thank you. sue and agnes, what was your thought when you heard this case and what police were summing up this afternoon? >> heartbroken. my heart goes out to the family, and this is an outrage, a preventable crime that should have never happened. if the politicians would secure our borders and start deporting illegal aliens, maybe mollie would still be alive today.
this is unacceptable. unacceptable. >> shannon: you are a legal immigrant here, yourself, your son was later killed years ago by an illegal immigrant gang member. this is something that you have made a very important because four years now. >> absolutely. it's not about my son. it's not about the thousands of american citizens who were killed by illegal aliens, this is about protecting our country. i always believed this country is protecting its citizens and what a disappointment it has been to know that they are not, and so many people, so many families are heart broken forever, to follow in my path, and this should have never happened to my son and thousands of other families in this country. we need to protect our own. >> shannon: randy, want to read the affidavit with so people know the suspect is told police. he parked his vehicle, got out, was running behind her and
alongside of her. rivera said she grabbed her phone and said come up and going to want to call the police." rivera panicked and got mad and he "blocked his memory," which is what he does when he gets very upset and doesn't remember anything after that until he came to an intersection. rivera states he made a u-turn, drove back to an entrance to a field, and then drove into a driveway to a cornfield. he noticed there was an earpiece from headphones in his lap and that is how he realized he put her in the trunk. randy, what do you deal with this case? >> it's nonsense. of course, he gave a little bit of information to the police, enough to bring them to the conclusion that he had killed her, and then led them to where the body was, but conveniently, blacked out before the assault and didn't remember anything. that is nonsense. i'm sure they'll discover that
he remembers everything. this tragic story, though, what it really does reveal is the amazing police work that was done to bring this case to a conclusion, though. >> shannon: they talked about having surveillance tapes and spotting his car and that he may have seen her before. also, i have to wonder, randy, well they look at other cases? it's hard to believe -- although it could happen -- this would be the first time that you would engage in this kind of behavior and we would wind up with somebody who has been murdered. do you think the police will spread a wider net to look for the cases in the area? >> absolutely. there will be -- remember, the federal bureau of investigation is already involved in this case and they keep a tremendous database of all unsolved crimes. they will look at the m.o. that this suspect did, they will compare it to other unsolved homicides and determine if this was his first major crime or if there were other abductions,
other -- my guess is, when they do the autopsy, they are going find that there was other crimes committed to this poor woman and i think that they will be looking at unsolved assaults as well. >> shannon: agnes, tonight a lot of folks saying there is no way they should be political. the president should not be talking about at his rally, we shouldn't be talking about balls. there are some reports we've been trying to confirms that there are allegations that this young man was working at a farm that was owned by someone who has deep g.o.p. connections in iowa. it is a dangerous to make this a partisan issue at this point? >> no. this is an issue, we all need to make this a big issue. look, we formed a group called angel families to bring to light these types of crimes because american people need to know, this is not an isolated case. to circumvent the biased liberal
media that's lying and covering up these stories, mollie is not the only one that has been killed. there were thousands of others. how many more are we going to sacrifice? this is not a political issue. we need to enforce immigration laws, we need to start getting down and deporting these illegal aliens, starting with the criminals. there shouldn't be any leeway for them. why? how many more do we need to lose? how many families need to be destroyed like mine and like thousands of others? how many? president trump was on the right track. we need to build the wall, we need to enforce immigration laws, and we need to deport criminal illegal aliens. i don't care if this guy was a really good guy. he obviously wasn't because he took a precious life. >> shannon: agnes, no one knows this pain better than you. no one can speak into a better than you. randy come on the issues of enforcement on whether i.c.e. can get a detainer on this
accused suspect and what happens from here, how difficult is this for local and state law enforcement in trying to find this balance and working with the feds when you have a case like this where, for now, authorities are saying he's been illegally here for four to seven years? >> i.c.e. has attained a detainer. that has been placed on him. and while this is not political in the sense that democrats and republicans are at odds about this particular crime, the fact of the matter is, this is a public safety issue. as it has always been but it has been politicized, the unfortunate thing, congress unfortunately has not done their job. the president is doing the very best he can with the tools that are there. this insanity with this hatred for i.c.e. and what they do is nothing short of madness. protecting the people is what law enforcement does.
i.c.e. is part of that apparatus. the men and women that do that job are incredibly dedicated, and for them to be vilified by the media and by democratic politicians, who seemingly don't care about innocent victims, is something that i find absolutely abhorrent. >> shannon: is a conversation that we know mike will once again get heated up because unfortunately of this case. randy and agnes, thank you for sharing your perspectives. >> thank you. >> shannon: coming up, president trump is its coal country, a rowdy rally in west virginia to celebrate his move to rollback obama era call regulations and makes a big announcement about big plans for midterm campaigning. chris stirewalt is here with political analysis. >> i'm going to be going out as many days as i can and i am allowed to. ♪ man: tom's my best friend,
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>> shannon: fox news alert. results from the wyoming primary elections in the g.o.p. senate race, incumbent senator john barrasso has fended off a well-d challenger with 65% of the votes, and at last check in with the results are pouring in for the geo. gubernatorial primary. the wyoming state treasurer currently leading the race with well-known g.o.p. voice and donor foster free, currently. the president touting his ministrations move to rollback environmental regulations" country. senior correspondent has the call for us. >> the president would give more power to the states, essentially dismantling the obama era clean power plan that try to limit emissions of federal regulations by the supreme court blocked obama's plan in 2016 after dozens of states filed legal challenges, and today, epa administrator andrew wheeler officially announced a
replacement said it would "empower states to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and provide modern, reliable, affordable energy for all americans." tonight the president speaking in a state known for its coal production, praise the move. >> i'm getting rid of some of these ridiculous rules and regulations which are killing our companies, states, and jobs. yesterday we announced our new affordable clean energy proposal that will help our coal-fired power plants and save consumers, you, me, everybody, billions and billions of dollars. >> while jump right's administration tout this is a punch back against the war on goal, we can expect lawsuits to be filed as a proposal will go through public notice and comment. mike brey these lawsuits were left leaning states and environmental groups will be just like the ones challenging the obama administration so this is headed for the courts and getting plenty of criticism with a group of democratic senators railing against the plan today.
>> the clean power plan was built around that very premise. clean air, better public health, more jobs. the trump administration delivers none of that. it will mean more emissions of harmful sulfite dioxide, mercury, arsenic, that will hound the help of american families. >> critics are pointing out that it epa's analysis, they acknowledge that increased emissions could cause some 1400 premature deaths by the year 2030. >> shannon: adam housley live tonight. thank you. as the coal industry making a comeback as the president is tempting? fox news politics editor, editor of the halftime report, and west virginian, chris stirewalt. come on, you are eminently qualified. >> >> the son of a coal salesman cannot do that, who can? >> shannon: let's play with the president had to say. this is what he had to say about
bringing back the coal industry by rolling back the federal regulations. >> we are back for a live industry is back. when i came here originally, watch for junior frankly was down and out. it was not doing exactly well. one of the last -- you know, a few months ago, it hit west virginia on a per capita basis is one of the most successful gdp states in our union. so we went from being down and out to one of the most successful in the union. very close to the top. >> shannon: he absolutely killed it in west virginia and 2016 and now they have a critical senate race and he knows is an issue that turns a lot of heads in west virginia. speak of his beloved in west virginia. i've never seen in my lifetime i politician at west virginians responded to and connected as much as donald trump.
i think west virginia went for him for 40 points and they will do it again and again. i wish what he said about the economy in west virginia was true. it's not. west virginia is nowhere near the top by gdp. it's nowhere near the top of any of those things, still a very poor statewide west virginia is a proud state, though. when he talks about the coal industry, when he talks about bringing coal back, maybe that is not what is going to happen but he is hearkening to a past that west virginians are proud of. it's salesmanship, he's making an emotional connection because when west virginia thinks of itself, he thinks of itself back in the days, 1950s, 1960s, where west virginia was a blast furnace for american industrial growth, for power, all of these things. it hasn't been that way. we should remember this, i would like to blame washington as much as any living human being, but when it comes to the coal industry, it wasn't washington ultimately that killed the coal industry. it was cheap natural gas. decades of environmental
regulations that went into place and would fracking came along, which revolutionized the american economy, change the way we are doing everything, the cheap natural gas became available, it was too much relief or coal as the main feedstock for the artist dates electrical grid to get the job done and here we are afraid to be what we talked about how popular the president's, winning by 40 plus points during the election. somebody else that i spent a few months following around was joe manchin and west virginia. and i found across the board, people loved them joe manchin. so how does this play for him in the senate race, where the president is still beloved by joe manchin cuts across a lot of lines? >> he will side with draw upon several key points. >> shannon: including this. >> backs of untreated, backs among supreme court nominees, and on and on, and he will continue to demonstrate the
ideological flexibility that has been the hallmark of his remarkably successful career in west virginia. if donald trump -- i've never seen them connected in love a politician as much as they do donald j. trump, your lafayette number two. >> shannon: he was ripping on joe manchin, and so there was some keeps on mr. joe manchin. as we watch this brett kavanaugh situation with the supreme court and many other hot topics, senator manchin will be in the middle of that as he looks at a tough race. >> creating into the camera shot that he'll say, "i'm over here voted for brett kavanaugh." >> shannon: "it's me, joe manchin." [laughter] a lot of love there. i have so many wonderful and wild tales of west virginia and i'm sure you have many more. chris stirewalt, thank you for being with us. >> you bet. >> shannon: and took it decades but i.c.e. finally departs a 95-year-old new yorker the government says was a nazi concentration camp guard. he's been sent back to germany. details on the next. s, dvd play,
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♪ >> shannon: in hollywood, one faith-based film is making quite a splash. an interview with god is about a talented reporter who asked recovering more turn afghanistan questions everything he was taught about religion. joining us now to talk about it from "inside edition," megan alexander, and fox news hosed todd starnes. thank you for have it on mike being here megan, i want to talk to about this because the movie is about a guy who has a chance, he believes, to sit down with someone he thinks is god. you were part of a panel discussion that plays after the movie, a discussion about where we are on these issues. >> shannon, thanks for having me. this film is really interesting because it presents god not as a
genie, not as a fairy godmother, but as someone who is sitting down with this reporter and engaging in conversation. the filmmakers that made this movie, they said, they want people to know that questions are okay. shannon and todd, i know your faith is important to you both, and to become what i have questions, i struggle sometimes, i think we all wonder, why do bad things happen to good people. that film works through it and there was a moment that i found very empowering and inspiring when the character of god said to the reporter, "you have more power than you realize." it was motivating that we can make a difference in the world, and even though we may not have all the answers, god is right there with us, he loves us, and he'll be with us every step of the way. i thought it was awesome. >> shannon: one of the actors in the movie, hill harper, says, i want to be involved in projects that uplift, inspire, entertain. sometimes it's not as effective as when you continuously had people over the head with a message if you also introduce messaging and positive messaging
through storytelling, that is pretty awesome. todd, we are seeing more and more movies like this, getting back in, the quality is good, the audiences are turning out, they want to see this stuff. >> they really do, shannon. moms and dads want to go to movies with the whole family, and they want to sit down and watch these movies in their living room, and they want this family experience, and i think you said something very important. this is not about dumping over people over the head with a bible, this is about weaving the stories of faith into modern life and the authorities that we all have. that is why these movies are resonating because they are so well done, and the message is so powerful. >> shannon: is interesting, adam holds writing and "usa today" talks about that people act shocked. he says, "the word of surprise should be retired. we should be able to remember that we have had six or seven of these movies that have made 50
or $60 million, for an eight to $10 million movie, great return on investment. hollywood seems to have a short term memory on that." megan? >> excellent point. there was an audience out there that is hungry for this type of content and i can't stress enough that i am seeing excellent work lately, these films are cast well, well protected from a well produced, good stories, good films, they happen to have a really neat message. to be when i talk to a well-known actor who got very involved in these faith-based movies, and he talked about the fact that in the beginning, it was so hard to get people on board, and how they do private financing ae stepping up and movie studios are also stepping up. todd, they are not the dummies. if there is money to be made, they will get involved. >> absolutely. the challenges, there is an aversion to christianity in hollywood. i think when you're looking at the big studios, they are looking at the bottom line and they see the numbers, they understand that movies like "i can only imagine" and the
beautiful christmas film that came out, "the star," powerful movies, very well thought, and at the end of the day, packing those theater seats and that is. >> shannon: i got to ask you both, if you could ask god to a question, i believe that we could talk to him and ask questions and he expects us to have doubts and questions, what is on the top of your list? megan, we'll start with you. >> i have two little boys, they want to know why the dinosaurs missed the ark i didn't get on with the tigers still made it. they want to know why saturn has rings in outer space. i got a lot of those questions. and i want to know that, too i'm looking forward to asking the lord that. >> shannon: todd? >> i want to know if the lord loves to calais as much as i do and then i got a question about "w," was that global punishment for almost, i don't know. mosquitoes, what is up with mosquitoes? >> shannon: they don't seem to serve a very good function. i have a lot of questions about critters. megan and todd, this movie is
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