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back then, i'd be in a different boat today, for sure. plan your financial life with prudential. bring your challenges. >> neil: man o man i have a feeling thursday is going to be a very busy day that's the day christine blasey ford states her case about what the judge did or didn't do to her when they were teenagers. that's also the day that rod rosenstein faces the music. more to the point the pet of the united statepresidentof then they sit down for a chat at the white house. welcome everybody this is neil cavuto and this is "your world." what a world is that john roberts traveling with the president in new york ahead of his u.n. speech tomorrow. john? >> good afternoon to you, neil. a lot of drama earlier today when rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general on his way to a prescheduled meeting at the white house let slip to some of his
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colleagues that he was expecting that when he arrived at the white house he was going to be fired. of course, it was nothing of the sort. president trump a short time ago meeting with moon jae-in the president of south korea said he is looking forward to meeting with rod rosenstein and having the conversation with him about everything that happened last week on thursday. listen here. >> our meeting with rod rosenstein on thursday when i get back from all of these meetings. and we'll be meeting at the white house and we'll be determining what's going on. we want to have transparency. we want to have openness. and i look forward to meeting with rod at that time. >> just a little bit of background to awful this after the story came out in the "new york times" last week that rod rosenstein allegedly was trying to drum up support for a 25th amendment removal to the president even suggesting he might wear a wire when he met to meet with the president. chief of staff john kelly pulled him in to the white
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house, asked him about it after that meeting on friday. rod rosenstein issued a stronger denial than the statement he had previously issued he and kelly according to jake gibb son our department of justice producer had a couple of conversations over the weekend during one of which apparently this idea of resignation was floated deputy attorney general thursday when he has an opportunity to meet with the president. he said he spoke to rosenstein earlier today. if he hasn't fired him on the spot there is a chance that rosenstein might survive. you heard trace gallagher talk about the other he had line of the day judge brett kavanaugh and his wire ashley will be appearing on story with martha maccallum to talk about the many accusations leveled against kavanaugh. kavanaugh earlier today sent another letter up to the senate judiciary committee in which he said among other things that these new allegations, all of the allegations in fact quote
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these are smears pure and simple and debase our public discourse will yous about a threat to any man or woman who wishes to serve our country. such grotesque and obvious character assassination if allowed to proceed will dissuade confident and good people of all political persuasion from service. so, again tonight, with martha maccallum on the story. you know martha maccallum to be a tough interviewer. i imagine she is not going to let kavanaugh off the hook here. she will ask some very probative questions. neil? >> neil: john, mitch mcconnell made it clear a vote will happen for the judge nay or yea. he didn't indicate the exact timing of that vote. what are you hearing? >> i don't know what the timing is he typically invoke a three day rule. hearing thursday the earliest they could have a vote is probably on tuesday because it's three business days. certainly judge kavanaugh has said that he is not going to withdraw. they are going to fight this out before the senate judiciary committee and
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grassley said it last week, he said we will have to be the jury. we have to listen to the evidence, weigh the evidence and be the jury. i will not be surprised if mcconnell's prediction comes to past and there is a vote and that would likely be early next week, neil? >> neil: john roberts, thank you very much to karl rove right now the former white house chief of staff bestselling author. karl, where do you think this is going? >> well, i think it is going to depend heavily upon the presentation of the two individuals on thursday. dr. ford first and brett kavanaugh. i'm a little biased here because bret is a personal friend and i have great admiration for his intellect and character. i think at the end of the day look the senate judiciary committee is likely to bring him out and country will be unnecessarily divided over. this a country never become accepting of his nomination. but my sense is that at the end of the day he is sitting on the supreme court where over the years ahead he will
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do an exemplary job: some look for democrats up for reflection in big trump winning states that they have a little more cover now to vote no. if that were the case, i don't know if you agree with that if that were the case he would have to rely, the judge every republican maybe could afford to do without one. arch that it's over. what do you think? >> yeah. look, i'm not certain i agree with the assumption that every democrat now has the ability to say in a state like west virginia where president trump won by 42%, 42 points that north dakota or missouri or indiana. i think it's interesting. claire mccaskill came out last friday and said she is against kavanaugh. she is in a red state. trump won it by 18 points. she is in a terribly close race. but she didn't say -- in fact she went out of her way to say it's not because of dr. ford's allegation. it's because of where i'm afraid where is he going to be on so-called dark money. i want a pledge in essence
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she was saying that he will overturn the pledge of citizens united. they not vote for him. they will find something in my opinion other than this current controversy. >> neil: all right. the reason why i mentioned then he can afford to lose only one republican, jeff flake comes to mind that he might forge out issue. you add susan collins to that conceivable intli over. a lot of people think that can be avoided with the vice president breaking a tie. would it ultimately come that close? >> it might because you are talking about a 51-49 senate. but, my gut tells me that tefnteatthe end of the day thiss up be 53-47, vote. i think it will be universal if not universal republican support and then with that when there are at least 50 republican votes then there will be a couple of democrats who say i'm in a red state. i'm doug jones or i'm donnelly, joe donnelly of indiana or heidi heitkamp or
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joe manchin or i'm in a state that leans right and i'm going to go for it. >> neil: how much of an issue is this looking like it's going to be in the midterm? >> well, ironically enough, it's which side loses? if republicans fail to confirm kavanaugh, then i think it's goods to to desspirit a lot of republicans. they will be angry at the one or two republicans who didn't support him but they will take it out on everybody. similarly if the democrats come up short. their expectations have been raise sod high, they have been beginned up so much. -- i just got one from mazie hirono from hawaii on behalf of move on.org. these things are so over the top they have ginned up their base and regardless of whether it's justified or not if the democrats fail to block him this will anger some of their base and they
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may take it out on some democrats. we ought to be thinking about what's right for the country. and the fact of the matter is we have gone from a time when bill clinton nominated ruth bader againstburg 95% of republicans voted to confirm her, 75% voted to confirm steve breyer. only 50% of democrats turned around and voted for judge roberts. 10%, only 10% of democrats voted for judge alito and then we saw with neil gorsuch, even though he was an incredibly accomplished individual almost every democrat voted against him. we are in a place that this hyper partisanship that was engendered first by ted kennedy in savaging robert bork and then further by harry flird tryin reid trying tp george w. bush trying to stop him from nominating people. is it's not in the best interest of our country. >> neil: thank you very much. >> thank you. >> neil: in the middle of this vacuum and craziness we had stocks selling off
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today. a lot more had to do with trade. taking look it corner of wall and broad. exploring this in more detail down 181 points. again concern that the trade thing is accelerating here and you will be looking at more expensive shopping prices as a result during the busy holiday season. that was weighing on things. a whole lot weighing on things after this. i'm ray and i quit smoking with chantix.
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kavanaugh's confirmation up for a vote. >> judge kavanaugh will be voted on here on the senate floor up or down. on the senate floor. this fine nominee to the supreme court will receive a vote in this senate in the near future. >> the republican senators to watch on this nomination susan collins of maine, jeff flake of arizona, and lisa murkowski of alaska. if they say they are no votes, the nomination would be in jeopardy. chairman chuck grassley sent a letter to professor christine blasey ford today after she sent him a note over the weekend, chairman grassley writing quote: i'm writing to say thyme committed to fair and respectful treatment of you as have you requested i work to make certain the committee i chair handles all individuals involved in hearings in that manner and you deserve the same. a red state democrat told u.s. just moments ago is he looking forward to hearing from judge kavanaugh and his acruiser. >> whoever or however many
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they ought to have a trite speak and relook forward to that as quickly as possible. he also has a right to clear his name. he truly does. that's what i'm hoping we can get to that as quick as we can this week or whatever it takes. >> and with emotion and anger building here on capitol hill, a lot of republicans want to get through this quickly and get it up for a confirmation vote. neil? >> neil: mike emanuel, thank you very much. a lot of questions now about this second woman and her charges of misconduct and worse on the part of judge kavanaugh at the time when they were college students. the "new york times" was not able to corroborate these latest allegations so what are we to come make of where things stand right now. a former federal prosecutor. where do you see this going? >> i don't think it's going to go anywhere, neil. the woman herself said she wasn't even sure it was brett kavanaugh. so the new yorker scraped the bottom of the barrel to come up with this. the "new york times" wouldn't publish it because it couldn't be corroborated. there is nothing there that
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can be believed whatsoever. when she doesn't even believe it herself. >> neil: this comes and the time something interesting because in all of the of course ahead of dr. ford's testimony later this week before congress, do you think that was deliberate? >> yes, i do. in fact, i have heard that the senate had this information or at least some senators did a week ago. and, of course, we already know that senator feinstein withheld the other issue for as long as six weeks. none of that bodes well for either of the two women that claim to be making these allegations or the veracity of them. they there are not enough details of time, place, or anything else for these things to have been investigated if they have been reported when they occurred. >> neil: right, sinsdy. to corroborate what are dr. ford is going to be alleging before senators on thursday, you have to have instances and names and
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individuals support what you are saying and charging. that has not come through. maybe it might. what is your sense of what we're looking at on thursday? >> well, so far everybody that's been asked about it has said it didn't happen they know nothing of it brett kavanaugh is not a party to any of it i would expect thursday simply to be a plight questioning of dr. ford and questioning of brett kavanaugh and there is not much he can say other than i don't know anything about this. they still haven't worked outs the order of events and thousand is going to go. lawyers insisting that the judge go first. that would be obviously difficult because he has to respond to charges that haven't been formally made. i don't know how they sort it out there. is a fear among a lot of republican senators that they look like old white men and interrogating a woman who is trying to recount events from decades ago. and they are in kind of a no win situation. >> well, i think they might
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engage the services of a woman attorney, perhaps, who has been involved in this kind of case before to serve as the person questioning both witnesses. that would make a lot of sense to me. >> neil: all right. we shall see. sidney powell, former federal prosecutor. i do want to take to you new york right now. some developments concerning the president and he intimated as much with his meeting with the south korean leader. the south korean trade deal that he hopes would be like a model for other trade deals surrounded by his nic team and vice president. let's listen in. >> vice president. mr. president i would like to thank you very much. i would like to thank our great vice president pence for joining us today for the ceremony u.s. trade representative bob lighthizer for his incredible efforts. he has worked very hard on this. thank you all as well to treasury secretary miewnchen and director of national economic counsel larry kudlow for their tremendous work. everybody has worked very, very hard.
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this is long and come many years actually i will say in coming. in a few moments we will sign a document pledging that our countries will take the additional necessary steps to implement the new united states korea trade agreement. i want to express my gratitude to president moon and his entire team for their dedicated efforts to reach really what we would call a historic milestone in trade. something that most people thought was not going to be happening from. day one i promised the american people that i would renegotiate our trade deals to ensure that our agreements were fair and reciprocal. for decades, politicians have talked about fixing broken trade deals only to do absolutely nothing about them. my administration is the first to keep our promise and deliver. in addition to this deal we have many in the works and
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they are fair deals, reciprocal deals. they make a difference to our companies and united states as a whole. the u.s. korea agreement significant agreements to reduce our trade deficit and to expand opportunities to export american products to south korea. in other words, we are now going to start sending products to south korea. these outcomes give the finest american made automobiles, innovative medicines and agricultural crops much better access to korean markets. i think our farmers are going to be extremely happy. it was very limited as to what they could do and what they could send and now it's a open market and they are going to be sending a lot more farm products. that makes me feel very good. i love our farmers. as a part of this agreement. we have also secured increased access to america's auto industry. south korea will double the annual number of american cars sold within -- in other
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words, we used to sell a maximum of 25. and we wouldn't even goat that number. and now we're going to $50,000. we're doubling it proximate result manufacturer. that's 50,000 per manufacturer cars. that's each year. so that's a doubling of the cars per manufacturer that can enter its market meeting u.s. safety standards. so we're going with now a u.s. safety standard, the standard was at a point that you couldn't get cars. in we are going to the u.s. safety standard. very important to understand. disagreement will reduce and reduce prosperity in both of our countries. workers in south korea and america will find new customers and new opportunities to expand and grow. our teams will be working hard to ensure that the terms of the deal are fully implemented. president moon, i just want to tell you we have
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developed a great relationship on many different fronts. this one is on trade. but we're working very well on north korea, a lot of very positive things are happening with chairman kim of north korea. and you'll be hearing about that over the coming weeks. but i think really really important things are happening. as i said just a little while ago, we have an agreement to work out another summit. and we look forward to doing that i'm going to be meeting with chairman kim in the not too distant future. the location is being worked on. the time is being worked on and would he be announcing it as far as these negotiations are two countries have set an example of friendship and cooperation for trade. that rarely you see in this age. and i just want to tell you i'm very honored to be a part of it and i'm honored to call you a friend and i'm honored to say that the
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united states and south korea have a great friendship together. thank you very much. mr. president. thank you very much. [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] know kneel all right. wire monitoring this here. suffice it to say the united states has struck an accord with south korea. this is building upon an earlier agreement you might recall when they wanted to address that -- that is the white house wanted to address what they thought was unfair treatment when it came to overpriced washers and dryers making their way into this country. that's the extent automobiles and the like. both country's interests and levels the playing field. again, if we hear more on this and the details of this, of course, we will pass it along. all of this of course at a time when tensions are risen
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with the chinese making no progress there and both sides have implemented tougher tariffs on a number of goods and products that go there from the united states and come here from china let's get the take from montana senator. do you think this sets the stage or could for chinese deal. >> this is good news. south korea is very important market for montana farmers or ranchers for american farmers or ranchers. market for grains and beef. and the more -- the faster we move forward on bilateral agreements the better off we will be in terms of negotiating with china. this is good news for american farmers and ranchers and good news for the american economy. >> neil: i would be remiss if i didn't mention back to the brett kavanaugh controversies and where you stand on all of this. of course, we will goat see when dr. ford gitsd a chance to testify on thursday. a number of your colleagues we are told are reportedly getting a little bit antsy. are you? >> neil, we have got to step back and remember who we are talking about in judge
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kavanaugh. a man who has authored 307 opinions, served with distinction with impeccable record for 12 years on the second highest court in the land. here is the real situation. hours after it was announced that judge kavanaugh was president trump's nominee, chuck schumer went tote floor of the u.s. senate and said we are going to do everything within our power to stop this nominee. that's exactly what's going on right now. this is a smear campaign against judge kavanaugh. look at the latest allegations the new yorker put in print here most recently in the last 24 hours. the "new york times" sells news that's fit to print. the "new york times" wouldn't even carry that story. so these are desperation tactics right now. it is creating great stawrn to this process and we need to stand and allow judge kavanaugh and dr. ford on thursday to be heard. they both should be heard. we then should vote up or down in the united states senate.
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>> neil: if there no other allegations. new yorker say what else could happen? you would say let's vote one way or the other. let's vote. >> it's been thousands of pages. hours of testimony, 65 plus interviews with u.s. senators. six fbi background checks. this man is ready to serve as the united states supreme court justice. we need to hear both sides on thursday, very important very important judge kavanaugh and dr. ford is heard. look what judge kavanaugh wrote today is he doubling down. is he anxious to get before the united states senate judiciary committee and clear his name. >> neil: you do want to hear both sides just to be clear have you already made up your mind? >> well, i want to hear both sides, so i will wait and hear what both sides have to say on thursday. at this point then we need to have a vote. >> neil: are you concerned
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that right now this is getting in the way of goofed news the republicans have been trying to rally around. good economy, low unemployment rate and these mock-ups right now showing owho the voters prefer to run congress and these are very volatile i grant you. in the latest one it's sort of a year wide gap but 12 points favor democrats. i don't think these are worth the paper they are printed on but it's the only paper we have got for the time being. are you alarmed by numbers like that? >> well, i will tell you what, bring it back to the kavanaugh discussion, this is why the democrats are delaying. this is all about pure political calculus and power. it's not about truth. it's not about justice. it's about political power. they want to delay this so it effects the elections in november of 2018. look at the numbers at this time, you look at what this economy is doing on jobs, economic growth, you look at regulation decreased and
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look at 126 circuit judges. hopefully a second supreme court judge these are lifetime appointments. this president has done more in few short years working with the republican congress than any president i can remember in my lifetime. this is good news and we are very prepared to take that message to the american voters and let them decide what happened in november. they will get the final word. >> neil: all right. this thursday also the president is going to be meeting with rod rosenstein the deputy attorney general and there have been a lot of talk as well that maybe, maybe he was going to fire the guy. do you think he should? >> all i know is that the president and mr. rosenstein are meeting on thursday. we will wait and see what happens. >> neil: -- >> i don't have all the details on that. i have concerns. i also have great confidence in president trump. he knows how to build businesses. he knows how to create great teams. i have complete confidence he will make the right decision on thursday. steve: all right. senator. thank you very, very much. >> thank you. >> neil: stick around. we'll have more after this.
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your hair is so soft! don't let another morning go by without did you use head and shoulders two in one? i did mom. wanna try it? yes. it intensely moisturizes your hair and scalp and keeps you flake free. manolo? look at my soft hair. i should be in the shot now too. try head and shoulders two in one. >> neil: these are protesters outside of jeff flake's office. the one republican they think they can get to vote no on judge kavanaugh. with a crowd like that, are they conceding? after this.
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>> neil: well he won't be muffled or pushed out of town judge kavanaugh making that very, very clear he is going to put up the fight. thursday is the day for that
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fight. happening almost like a fight where his accuser is going to outline her charges that he attacked her. assaulted her when they were in middl high school. of course he has denied that heavily. of course that will all be playing out on live tv on thursday. ahead of that let's get the freed lee carter, and manning with the independent frowomen's forum and jason altmire. congressman, let me end with you, because a lot of friction we have senile has been very polar rising. the democrats on one side republicans on the other side. very little overlap here. hearkens back to what you have talked about it is a very poisoned well and coming into retime play here. what do you make of it? >> it's unfortunate. i tweeted out on the anniversary a couple days allegago when sandra day o'connr was confirmed 99-0. the oak automatically came
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out for the nomination of the supreme court. then have you these protesters that you see very toxic atmosphere. it appears that this new yorker article that was talked about over the last 24 hours might be unraveling it may very welcome down to thursday. i think both witnesses have every right to be heard. we will see what happens. it's just unfortunate that the nomination has been mired in this type of talks toxicity. >> neil: no collaboration of the charges. i'm wondering there i is not much more on the part of dr. ford. nevertheless, she will be able to state her case and maybe that comes through in the back and forth here. where is thursday going? >> thursday is a big day in washington. that's certainly true. it's going to be very difficult for dr. ford or any other accuser to prove the allegations they are bringing against judge kavanaugh, on the flip side
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it's almost impossible tore judge kavanaugh to disprove these allegations that's what's ugly about politics. people are retreating to corners believing what they want to believe. as the congressman mentioned what's wrong with our politics when it comes to the supreme court. the supreme court outstepping its role. overstepping, stepping into policy making, that's what's brought us here. that's why the confirmation process is so politicized even to the point of politicizing allegations something as serious as sexual misconduct. >> neil: lee carter, obviously our own martha maccallum had a chance to talk to judge kavanaugh and his wife. i look forward to that on her fine show. in the meantime he has put out a number of statements today, tweets, whatever, to sort of argue his position that he is not giving up the good find here. again, republicans or at least those questioning dr. ford are damned if they do damned if they don't. they can appear chauvinist if they try to go into or pick apart her allegations.
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what do they do? >> that's a million-dollar question. this is a very, very difficult position to be. in the fact that all republicans that are on the judiciary committee are middle to older aged men we don't have any females that can make these questions seem soft or make them seem like they have any empathy. it's going to be a challenging position. my hope is that they enter into these conversations with compassion and with understanding. maybe even telling their own stories as they are asking the questions of experience that they have had whether it's daughters or wives or friends who have come forward to them. the truth of the matter is one in three women have experienced some kind of a sexual assault or victimization. we all are surrounded by. this i don't want in any way, shape or form, the last thing we want to see happen is women become afraid to tell their stories because this goes a very, very wrong way. we want the truth to come out. and i don't want it to be become a political game, a political show and i don't think anybody does. but, rights now what we're seeing out there is a third
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of americans have already decided that kavanaugh is guilty and support ford. there is only a third waiting to find out what we hear on thursday. that's really dangerous the fact we are looking at a state of affairs where somebody is presumed innocent the whole notion you are presumed innocent until otherwise proven guilty is at play here and at odds at. it's really concerning. the senators have a huge responsibility on thursday. >> neil: i don't know if it's moving any needles here. congressman, maybe that's the issue. every, you know, senator ha i have had a chance to talk to on this issue, even though very hadn't but they commented on it on the republican side very fine senator at the want to show says i'm going to make sure this woman has her say but making clear that judge kavanaugh has his vote again unless something stunning happens. democrats say we want to hear from judge kavanaugh respond to these charges and
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making it clear they are a no vote anyway. is this like kabuki theater here? >> when you have a 51-49 majority, of course can you only lose two, and there are at least three or four that are in play, it appears on the republican side. if dr. ford gives a very credible testimony on thursday, and makes it difficult for two out of those three or four then it's possible the nomination could go under because of it we have to wait and see on thursday. >> our own martha maccallum had a chance to sit down and raise the issue whether it was pushing them to the brink take a look. >> did you ever look at each other and say i'm out you, this is enough. this isn't worth it? >> i'm not going to let false accusations drive us out of this process. looking for a fair process where i can be heard and
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defend my integrity. my lifelong record. my lifelong record of promoting dignity and equality for women starting with the women who knew me when i was 14 years old. i'm not going anywhere. >> neil: i don't want to read too much into that. given the original pause, i thought it must have crossed their mind. >> you know, lee mentioned all the victims of sexual assault and sexual harassment in this country. we don't know as i said we can't prove and disprove these accusations and adjudicated the facts of the case here. if the accusations are false, let's remember that false accusations have victims, too. it's not fair to side automatically with one party or the other when it comes to case like this. you hear from the kavanaugh family. they see we are experiencing a lot of pain as a result of this nomination process. >> neil: all right, guys. i want to thank you all very, very much on the breaking news on trade front
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and frayed thing is official as well with the south koreans whether it paves the way for any sort of a deal. ultimately with the chinese is anyone's guess we are nowhere near on that front. we are getting closer to some sort of closure some would say with the kavanaugh situation and whether he ever makes it from judge to supreme court justice after this. the chevy silverado. oh, and since the chevy equinox and traverse also won chevy is the only brand to earn the j.d. power dependability award across cars, trucks and suvs-three years in a row. phew. third time's the charm...
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>> slow down this process. have the independent professionals of the fbi actually investigate these concerning new allegations. >> for people to come out of the woodward from 36 years ago and 30 years ago and never mention it all of a sudden it happens, in my opinion, it's totally political. >> neil: all right. the president convinced that a lot of these accusations are politically motivated out to get his candidate to be on the supreme court. chambers joins us right now
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correspondent for the daily mail. first time sighing you in person. >> so great to be in new york. >> neil: good to have you. where is this going? the administration worried? is this thing looking dicey? what? >> i think the fact that we're going to hear directly from brett kavanaugh on your colleague's show this evening shows you that the white house is worried. in the past we had just heard from white house spokes people denying the allegations. but now we're hearing from directly from brett kavanaugh and i think even the president's rhetoric or over the past few days has changed dramatically. first it was she deserves to be heard. i believe he will still be confirmed then it was this is a political attack. this is a smear campaign. this is the left trying to run down my nominee. those things are very different. >> neil: obviously worried about how close this vote could be. you could make the argument for the democratic support they thought they might get, those senators might have cover now not to vote for him. also talk, i was looking at these protesters outside jeff flake's office, the outgoing republican senator.
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looked like hundreds of them. i could be wrong. they are obviously trying to tip his vote. all of a sudden now you are talking a very, very dicey prospect where have you 50 republicans and that's it. and then you have the vice president in the role of a tie breaker here. what do you make of it. >> you bring up a really important point, neil. it's whether the president still stands behind nominee. you will mawltly the decision sides with senators over whether brett kavanaugh will be confirmed there are a knew could potentially swing this vote. most democrats are going to vote no. most republicans are going to vote yes. >> neil: do you see any democrat voting yes? even though you see the manchins and donnellys in states that trump won big might consider it but now less so. >> this gives them cover. not just the first allegation it's the fact that there is a second allegation and michael avenatti seems to have potentially a third allegation and that gives democrats a lot of the cover at this point to say i was thinking about it but this is why i didn't or couldn't vote for him.
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it does then potentially come down to those republican swing votes like jeff flake and what they will be doing. that's who brett kavanaugh will be speaking to. >> neil: you mentioned other women who come forward. the "new york times" said it would have a tough time corroborating this story new yorker and might be giving people another pause here. especially the one where avenatti was involved here. whoa, whoa, whoa. wait a minute. could it boomerang on democrats? >> well, at the same time as you are saying it's possible that brett kavanaugh could come forward and not just america can hear from him tonight on fox but also on thursday when both dr. ford and brett kavanaugh are due to testify that they could hear what he has to say and believe that he is the one who has the more credible story. but, again, i think that it will take until thursday when both of them are in the same -- not the same room at the same time but back to back. >> neil: born and we had anita hill on the hill. she had a very credible case. he still got in there. >> you don't know that neil. >> neil: i'm joking. what i mean like all of the
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sudden to the aciewrch ghost the tie. that it hurts the person being accused. do you buy that all of a sudden she makes a credible cases whether people believe her or not? it puts him at a disadvantage. >> well, again, i think that the administration and the white house based on their change in strategy are very concerned at what could happen. >> neil: backup plan if something goes wrong here? >> not as far as we know. the president says is he standing by brett kavanaugh. that is a very real question as to whether or not at this point they are sorting out potential other names if they did start to get the sense. >> neil: do you know they are? >> i don't personally have any knowledge whether they're or not. i think as another point today we haven't had that many opportunities personally to interact with the president except for those few bilaterals like with moon jae-in that we saw there and at a briefing today we -- it was almost all foreign policy except for rod rosenstein which is a whole other topic area,
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neil. a lot on north korea. a lot on foreign policy today as we are here at the united nations. >> neil: great to see you again. very well for the daily mail. update on the trade front here. no update on the trade front. still outright trade war with the chinese. they are not bending even though it looks like the south koreans were kind of blinking. why that could be a problem for the markets. not kavanaugh. not rosenstein, trade. i will explain after this.
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>> neil: markets more uncertainty. today the markets were dealing with a lot of uncertainty but not of the political variety. more of the trade variety right. i'm not saying they are ignoring what would happen to justice a if he does
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become judge kavanaugh. and not pushing aside the mess and whether he ultimately gets fired and complicates the whole investigation and you name that but they don't think either of those are possibilities. what they do worry about is trade quickly turning into an expensive proposition for american consumers. especially during the holiday season as china and the united states go tit-for-tat going after each other's goods and hiking up those goods. read now from heather zumarraga and charlie gasper reena and bolton. the argument is this gets worse before it gets better on trade front [inaudible] >> i think it is possible, neil. what we learned over the weekend and today right is that china is actually not going to, as of this moment, sit in the same room, trade talks have been cancelled more or less, right? and china saying it will not negotiate with a gun to its head and also today symbolic because 10% of tariffs worth
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$200 billion worth of chinese goods went into effect today. we know that number goes up to 25% at certain point and of course china retaliated putting 25% tariffs on $60 billion worth of u.s. goods. this on the same day that oil settled. you were talking about the consumer strength settled around $72 a barrel. we haven't seen this in a while it seems as if poo peck signaling it will let the price go up a little bit. as we all know that is the ultimate tax in addition to tariffs and trade consequences on american consumers, neil. >> neil: heather, does the trade stuff worry you? >> it does worry me. 250 billion now worth of goods that 10% tariff another 200 billion added today out of that 250 does worry me. it worries the markets. markets are down for the most part this year. markets have shaken off trade disputes but i think as trade tensions escalate with china, this could get worse, neil. >> neil: let me give you the political variable and that is on politics stuff and
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investigations, rod rosenstein is fired, many people don't seem to think that's going to happen that the president will keep him on when he meets him at the white house on thursday. but, explain the fallout there. >> the general uncertainty involving roach sometime goes back to mueller. the markets have been trading off on anything negative that mueller may or may not have on the president or the people around him. and i'm just saying, this you know, here's where the political stuff, i think, played in today. yes, china, you know, people -- there is algorithms that whenever there is a negative china story about trade, the markets trade-off. but the overall emphasis is this that rosenstein, mueller, the brett kavanaugh brouhaha that this is all bad for the republicans. it's going to lead to democrats taking the house and maybe the senate and that will stall the trump economic agenda. and that's pretty bad. i will say this though the
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trade numbers have not really showed up in g.d.p. just yet. we haven't seen the latest g.d.p. clip but, you know, they are not really in the numbers. and one of the things is this. i don't think most people, particularly traders, are worried as much about china because they know china is a presently bad player. >> but they are worried today. they are worried today. >> they are worried today and they were worried yesterday. i am saying they will trade-off on the headline. the algorithm it wasn't down that much. we didn't lose like 1,000 points today. >> actually backing up what charlie said as well we hit the record highs on friday for the s&p 500 so today better get back. >> my point is this worried about unconcerted effort un -- that the trump administration goes nuts on trade attacks everybody and doesn't isolate china. i think that's the worst of all worlds here. >> neil: trade that -- a lot of stuff. let me ask you kavanaugh, you don't mind, fails at becoming a supreme court justice it fall as vote or
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two shy and they have to start from scratch, for the markets, would that have any impact at all? this was a conservative judge of course with a very big pro-business bent they like that sort of thing or does it move the needle at all, more trade? what do you think. >> absolutely it matters. markets don't like uncertainty whether it be politics, political uncertainty from the executive branch or uncertainty out of escalating trade tensions with china. and if democrats take over the house and the senate, then the markets will go down because the trump agenda including tax reform and deregulation across the board, which is pro-business. this is the biggest pro-business president we have had in a very long time, perhaps ever, then the markets will go down because the trump agenda is off the table. >> neil: we don't see that happening just yet but we will keep a close eye on it guys, i want to thank you very, very much. judge kavanaugh and his wife had spoken with our martha
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maccallum if you think they are not going down without a fight, you are wrong. right now they are full bore ready to take on any challenge or accusation and respond to it in a public hearing beginning with martha after this.
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or more on car insurance. >> neil: all right. it is very clear from this that we are getting from martha maccallum's exclusive interview with brett kavanaugh and his wife. they are going to put up the fight of their lives. >> i want a fair process where i can defend my integrity. i know i'm telling the truth. i know my life-long record. i'm not going to let false accusations drive me out of this process. i have faith in god. i have faith in the fairness of the american people. >> neil: that will all be on display tonight in the interview and more importantly
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on thursday, in the ultimate job interview of his life. and his accusers'. stay with fox. right now, "the five." ♪ >> jesse: hello. i'm jesse watters with judge jeanine pirro, juan williams, lisa boothe and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." brett kavanaugh firing back against sexual misconduct allegations in an exclusive interview with fox news. you will hear from him in a moment. but first, we want to get you caught up. the supreme court nominee blasting what he is calling a last minute character assassination while adding he won't be smeared and intimidated into withdrawalling. this comes as a second accuser has come forward accusing kavanaugh of sexual misconduct during a party

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