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>> leland: president trump standing firm in his fight to crackdown on immigration. now threatening to shut down the entire border as central american migrants seeking asylum continue to pour into the mexican border town of tijuana. brand-new our of america's news headquarters on thanksgiving. this is a friendly reminder, go check your turkey. it is important. >> ebony: lee linda's does not want anyone's turkeys to burn. reportedly considering a new plane to keep migrants arriving
at our southern border in mexico until cases are processed. here he is earlier today. >> if we find that it is uncontrollable, if we find that it gets to a level where people are going to get hurt, we will close entry to the country for a period of time before we can get it under control. the whole border. i mean the whole border. >> ebony: we've got fox team coverage all over this. she has the latest on the caravan, but first, we start with kevin, who is life in florida where the president is at spending at mar-a-lago. >> ebony, you are right. we will get to this make no mistake, the clashes just south. you are talking about potentially thousands of migrants making their way all the way up from honduras, all the way through the country of
mexico, many of them being deposited over just the border in tijuana. the clashes are important because as you pointed out, the president is trying to create this buffer between the migrants who are trying to make their way here and obviously the u.s. border area. now this area has actually been shutdown. traffic is backing up. some say 4 miles back into mexico. the real issue is if we cannot control entry, we have to do something. that is what white house officials have said consistently. it is also a message about the president shared again today. >> we are going to have a strong border. our southern border is going to be very strong. i'm not going to let the military be taken advantage of. you ask the people in tijuana, mexico, they opened up with wide arms just come in, come in, let me help you, let us take care of you, and within two days, now they are going crazy to get them out.
>> so what are you going to try to do here? can you at least by programs, keep them away, or will you simply work with the mexican government to try to make a more orderly approach to the border by these potentially thousands of migrants? that is the real question that the administration is trying to answer, but as he pointed out, the pride president is steadfad it determines. >> ebony: very classy look with a bow tie. happy thanksgiving to you, my friend. >> thank you. i appreciate that. >> leland: all right, we'll get a little bit more now on exactly what is happening at the border, and to the troops who are showing up. alicia is following that story from our denver bureau. hi. >> hi it, leland. today, the present talk to you the troops overseas on the conference call. he also addressed the use of force, saying that if necessary on the southern border, the
active-duty troops that are there can use force. >> if they can, if they have to, they will use lethal force. i hope they don't have to. but you are dealing with a minimum of 500 serious criminals. so i am not going to let the military be taken advantage of. i have no choice. >> and an off-camera conversation with reporters on wednesday, secretary of defense james mattis explained the role of the nearly 5800 members of the military at the border. that is to provide support to the national guard and border's control. he also points out that many of them do not have authority. if someone is beating on border control, we are in a position to have to do something about it, we could take them over, deliver them to a border but do my patrolman who would then arrest them. they continue to process asylum seekers at a rate of about 100
per day. when members of the caravan began arriving, the waiting list was already at 3,000. doctors say that they are seeing multiple health issues in the crowd of people who have traveled thousands of miles, often by foot. our crew talk to jorge lopez, who has been told by others it is not going to get easier. >> he told me he liked the farther we go, the tougher the thing is, all the things that will happen to us. >> secretary mattis says the cost of the active-duty presence is about 72 million and will likely go up. leland. >> leland: all right, alecia, thank you. ebony has more. >> ebony: we are going to bring back fill up with. things were coming back and joining us. oh, philip, i think we might have a little bit of an audio issue. make sure i can hear you. okay. oh, there you are. >> finally.
>> ebony: we have got some contact here. so the president essentially is sounding here like the very thing that most would say got him elected to the presidency. he is articulating a very strong position, but he is escalating, now saying if needed, deadly force on our border to ensure its security. we know this is an excellent political strategy for the president. what do you think will be the political play ultimately for the broader country? >> well, taking a closer look at the policy that is being proposed right now, i think it shows that now the democrats control the house of representatives, the chances of getting any meaningful immigration reform or the wall that he has long promised, the chances are going down. i think you will see him acting more unilaterally because in the run up to 2020, he needs to show his base that he is taking the issue seriously. he is going to be doing that through these individual executive actions, changing the policy. this is going to play well with republicans and the
president sees it as honoring his promise to take the law & order stance that he promised. >> ebony: when we look back at some parts, the one place that even some republicans said that he may have been getting into a bit of trouble was of course the detention of some of these children at the border. all of these things. some people said that maybe he was going a bit too far. others liking what they heard from him. by any means necessary to protect the border. where do you see this particular stance? the possibly opening up deadly force if necessary to protect the border, do you feel like that will have any blowback around some republicans, or will this be widely applauded, excepted, and encouraged by the republican party? >> right now, we have a pressure cooker of the situation. there are near 6,000 migrants on the border. a lot of them have been close, which escalates things. that used to be a sort of safety valves to ease the pressure.
i think something eventually is going to happen, and there will be a massive political ramifications. i'm not sure whether the administration knows right now whether or not the use of lethal force is going to be a policy, or if it's an option early. we heard from mattis that our troops are very much very much and a support role, but it is only going to be a matter of time before something happens, and on the political blowback is something that they will have to deal with here in d.c. >> ebony: is this more political savviness from the president and being able to capitalize on this point, from a reporter rhetorical standpoint, is that you're kind of take on this? >> at this point, it definitely is. he knows what he is doing as far as the rhetoric is concerned. we heard him talking about shutting down the entire border, which sounds good and i tweet or a sound bite, but whether or not that will be an actual policy or if it is policy remains to be seen. as far as the mexican policy
goes, this is something he sees as an opportunity to crack down on what other administrations let run rampant, especially the catch and release policy of the past. so he is actually taking a step towards a real reform, well not certain that the rhetoric will actually pan out as far as deadly force. >> ebony: so the politics on the other side of the aisle, many would say that the democrats were able to have a little bit of political runway because the president went so far with the children around immigration. how do you see the asylum aspect of this playing into the president stands? do you think that from the democrat side, they will try to use this as an opportunity to say that he is overreaching again? he is not being that compassionate conservative that many on the right would like to see? do you see this as an opportunity for democrats to lean in here? >> we all remember those horrific images of children in cages. it is important to note, that
that was not a policy that started with this administration. that was something that was carried on during his predecessor's tenure. that said, i think it's going to be very interesting what the democrats are going to do. in my opinion, they wasted the child separation issue because they turned it into an argument about abolishing i.c.e. so this time, i think the gamesmanship and the strategy has to focus on the actual policy, rather than sort of running away with that shiny object, which makes for perhaps a good campaign slogan, but doesn't actually address the issue. so i think they're definitely going to try to make the most of this, but this time, they will have to pay closer attention to what is actually going on. >> ebony: final question for you, philip. the beef between chief justice roberts and president trump really started because president trump did not like a circuit court's ruling around this asylum issue for him. but that seems to be
consistently where the court is. acknowledging he has got a wide scope and range, but asylum is not something that's is in anybody's authority to lessen. where do you think that president and the judiciary, maybe even going up to the supreme court, where it will be, if it continues? >> i definitely think that we are going to see some fireworks eventually on this issue, but to the point that i was trying to make to leland earlier, when you have president trump criticizing the judiciary, that is a fundamentally liberal mentality because if you are a constitutional conservative, he wants the court to do their job, read the law, not prejudge outcomes. we don't put judges on the supreme court because they are going to rule the way we want. >> ebony: that would be activism. >> exactly. you put them on the court to do their job and it to defend the constitution. >> ebony: 's will, thank you for a double dose today. thank you, philip.
>> leland: anna fox news alert, just learning this on thanksgiving. house republicans issuing subpoenas to former fbi director james comey, loretta lynch. the they want closed-door depositions that they made of. it now james comey, and this is what we are learning on thanksgiving, responding. a lauren blanchard or live in washington. hi >> hi. confirming that the former fbi director has been called to appear on december 3rd. treating this morning, confirming. writing in part "i will resist a closed-door thing because i have seen enough of the distortion. let's have a hearing and invite everyone to see. while his attorney is issuing a statement "well it is broad, it does not cover the right to misuse hearings as a political
as opposed to legislative agend agenda." democrats have long wanted this to be in full view, and he has offered to you testify, only as long as it was open. bob goodlatte has insisted on a closed-door hearing. >> we will make all of the transcribed interviews available to the public so that they can see exactly what we have been investigating, but we are not going to have him testify in public so that other people can see him testify and then suddenly, their testimony seems to match up with his. >> the last-minute demand appears as he is retiring and democrats will soon control the house judiciary committee. this would be his final act as chairman to make them appear in a closed-door session. the current top democrat, jerry nadler, said last week it was unfortunate that the outgoing majority was resorting to these tactics. goodlatte says he wants to
question comey and lynch on how they handled the trump band russia collusion case and the email case. >> leland: it is going to have to happen in the next month effort will happen. it will be a must see tv. a lot more on this coming up in the hour. former prosecutor and defense attorney going through the briefs on both sides. evan a. >> ebony: new dangers are threatening the recovery efforts after the devastating california wildfires. the first responders. also, the problems. plus, the tragic mansion fire turned a murder mystery. why a family of four may have been targeted. we've got the very latest from police next. >> our investigation has revealed that unfortunately, sadly, each of these individuals were the victims of homicidal violence. at some point prior to when the fire was set at 15 willowbrook.
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attending a decorated feast. nato ended its main comment operation there in 2014, so this has provided training and assistance to afghan security forces. >> leland: new concerns in california as steady rain is complicating the search for victims of the deadly campfire and bringing the threat of dangerous mudslides in areas that the fire has already torn through. meanwhile, volunteers are serving on thanksgiving meals to so many who have lost so much. chico california is one such area. boy, inspiring to see all these folks out here, even in the rain. >> yeah, it's incredible. mother nature is working in their favor. it hasn't rained much today, and as a result, we've got lots of volunteers out here today. thousands of people coming out here to cook up thanksgiving dinner for the folks who have lost so much. they are loading up some of the
turkeys into the smoker. they've got all sorts of fictions, and this isn't the only community spots where they are fixing food and getting ready to serve the victims of this terrible, terrible fire. thousands of people displaced from their homes. we've seen a lot of celebrity chefs out here. guy fieri was out here, and jose was out here. cooking up food for everybody. or they are doing this in part to obviously feed people on thanksgiving, give them some sort of semblance of the holiday, but sending a message. >> the best thing we can do is to sit at a table with a stranger. >> yeah, like we said before, this is not the only community that is doing something. lisa sierra nevada brewery is going to be serving. again, a huge effort out here. giving up their thanksgiving
holiday to make sure that some of those folks who have nothing get a little slice of this holiday. >> leland: inspiring, but there is so much devastation. >> we were just up there a little bit earlier today, checking on what's going out, and they are still up there. doesn't matter if it is rain, shine, the holiday. they will be up there. involved in the search and recovery efforts. the latest numbers, 83 people dead. that is out from the day before. the numbers that continue to fluctuate are the numbers of those unaccounted for. it is down to 563. hoping to get that number further and further down. they are going to be out there throughout this whole process, trying to get this community back on its feet. >> leland: we hope that the rain does not create any dangerous mudslides. jeff, thank you. thanks to the folks behind you. >> ebony: back on the
east coast, a horrific story out of new jersey. a new twist in a homicide investigation after a family of four was killed in a mansion fire on tuesday. now, police arresting the brother of one of the victims, accusing him of igniting a fire in his own home 11 miles away. we are live from the new york bureau. >> hi it, ebony. tough story. one brother and his family are dead, and now there are many questions left for the other. 51-year-old paul caneiro has not officially been named a suspect and his brother's death, but paul was arrested for aggravated arson wednesday morning. he is suspected of starting a fire at his own home hours before his brother's family was found dead in their burning home. investigators believe paul used gasoline to set his home on fire while his wife and two daughters were inside. no one was hurt in that home. seven and a half hours later, though, 11 miles away from paul's burning home, his
brother, 50-year-old keith caneiro was found shot dead on his front lawn. that house was also burning. keith's wife, jennifer, their 11-year-old son jesse, and 8-year-old daughter sophia were found dead inside, badly burned. police believed that they were targeted. this was not random. they also say the family of four was murdered before the inferno was started in the home. paul and keith were partners at a technology firm called "square one." they are investigating if and how these fires are related. >> this is one of the most heinous cases that they have ever investigated. they want to give justice to the caneiro family, but sometimes that term is thrown around. we really mean it. we really hope that we can solve this. >> vigil was held last night in new jersey. the caneiros were well-known, often seen at shops.
a school sporting events. it is a very difficult time for them. >> ebony: difficult indeed. many prayers for them and the community as a whole. >> leland: an american missionary killed on an island, cut off from the rest of the world, the efforts now to recover his body are becoming harder. what happens on that remote island in the indian ocean. plus, president trump defining the backlash over his decision not to punish -- what the president is saying now. >> i hate the crime. i hate what is done. i hate the cover-up. and i will tell you this. the crown prince hates it more than i do. they have vehemently denied it. finally. you're still here? come on, denise. we're voya!
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>> ebony: a new warning from saudi arabia. any criticism of the crown prince or the death of jamaal khashoggi crosses the red line. that it will not tolerate any calls to hold him accountable for the killing. president trump weighing in. >> i don't know if anyone is going to be able to conclude that the crown prince stated. whether he did or whether he didn't, he denies it vehemently. his father denies it, the king, vehemently. the cia doesn't say that they did it. they do point out certain things, and in pointing out those things, you can conclude that maybe he did or maybe he didn't. >> ebony: benjamin hall is following the story live from london. benjamin. >> hi. ever since president trump released his statements that the alliance was more important than anything else, he has been explaining his reasons. he did that in great detail, the
economy, jobs, pushing back against iran, and all of those reasons are why saudi arabia is such an important ally. he went on, also saying -- >> they are vehemently denying it. we have hundreds of thousands of -- do people really want me to give up hundreds of thousands of jobs? frankly, if we want by this standard, we want to be able to have anybody as an ally. >> encouraged by his support, saudi arabia has also speaking out for the first time since the statement, warning now that criticism is a redline. calls for the crown prince to be held accountable for the killing would not be tolerated. and yesterday, general mattis also saying presidents don't always get the freedom to work with unblemished partners in all things. we are not going to apologize for our human rights stance, nor will we apologize for dealing
with saudi arabia, when it is necessary for the good of innocent people who are in trouble. there are already repercussions across the world for jamaal khashoggi's party. denmark and finland announced that they would be holding equipment. they follow germany and doing so. so what we have really seen recently is president trump laying out his bigger picture politics, saying that the relationship decades old, and it needs to go forward in the future. there are so many bigger things at stake here. he is laying that out regularly now. ebony. >> ebony: benjamin hall, live in london. happy thanksgiving to you. >> leland: with that, we bring in christian whitten, former senior advisor in the bush administration. if we went by the standard, we would not have anyone as an ally. is there some truth to that?
yeah, i think so. you have the turkish president. he has a ton of other journalists and political opponents rotting in jail. the president who actually sanctions killing us. look back in history. we were allies with joseph stalin and world war ii, one of history's greatest mass murderers. we didn't do it because we like him, but because it was important strategically. >> leland: foreign policy can a messy business. it is what is happening any different than what has happened for the last 20 or 30 years of administrations? turning a blind eye to the saudis because we need them? more explicit about the quid pro quo there, but these things happened under the bush administration, obama administration. they were bad actors under the clinton and reagan administration. >> and a present that i can
remember, or democrat, called out the saudis repeatedly. discussed it repeatedly in public. i can't recall ever -- >> leland: there was never an inflection point with any of those administrations, vis-a-vis the saudis. >> sure there were. if you look at the philippines, they had him assassinated. people were constantly being thrown in jail. the difference today is that you look at their resumes, governments with which we are allies tend to be going in the direction of reform, including the saudis. introducing some reforms. controversial as he has, talking about pulling back on the exports. today, iran, totally unredeemable, on reform of all, and much more theoretical. much more repressive than saudis or some of our other allies. >> leland: some of the people who are the very loudest critics of the president on this where
the loudest cheerleaders of president obama cozying up to the iranians, the iran nuclear deal. that was a regime that had the blood of thousands of americans on their hands. the tangential point, this was a tweet, the congresswoman from hawaii both on the foreign affairs committee and on armed services. it's thanksgiving, so we will edit the language. "it is not the america first. from the woman who cozied up to bashar al-assad. >> it is too bad. this is someone who is major in the national guard saying that about her commander and chief. i would encourage her to resign if she is going to set that kind of example. the president is really just trying to do the same right th. we have challenges in the middle east. saudi arabia plays an important role. >> leland: they play an important role, but truth is an
important ideal as well. and the president keeps going well, it may be that they did, that they didn't, you can draw a lot of conclusions. going back and forth on this, why is it it appears to be that there is conclusive intelligence by the cia and others about what happened, why not to lay all the end of it in and say we really have a problem with this. we don't hear that kind of language. you don't hear him angry that they told him oh, we have no idea about this, we didn't do it, but it turned out that they knew exactly what happened. >> they have been very clear. >> i am talking about the president himself. that is still not -- you think you know the answer here, but you don't. they leak to "the washington post," their anti-trump political -- >> judgment based on
suppositions. our intelligence community is making guesses. >> leland: first of all, our intelligence community always makes gases. >> they should use some objective information. that has been described in a turkish paper. >> leland: christian. it is very simple that there are times that the president said that they said they had no idea about this. for a long time, they said that he left the consulate alive. we all know that they knew that wasn't true. the president of the united states saying you can't lie about these kinds of things, it has a way. why didn't he do it? >> he has expressed the truth as he knows the truth. >> leland: hold on, you just told me that the truth isn't understandable or not. >> we don't know if they ordered this or not. and i think it is extraordinarily reckless to suggest that we break one of our
most fundamentally important alliances with a region that is full of conflict. the president is doing what is absolutely necessary. >> leland: christian, we've got to run. you got way more than 30 seconds. thank you. ebony. >> ebony: an american missionary killed off the coast of india. efforts are underway to recover john allen chau's body. a police say 26-year-old was killed. we are following the story. >> hi it, ebony. the president of the mission which is john allen chau was affiliated, it was a dream that went wrong. and a friend of chau says really, he had felt that "bringing the gospel to a very remote part of the world was worth the risk." the island, off the coast of
india is so little known. very little known about the tribe. he wanted to convert them. experts believe it is the most isolated tribe on the planet. next to nothing is known about their language. it is hard to imagine even communicating with them. now chau was said by friends to have been a tremendous adventurer and felt closer to god in the outdoors. he had planned this trip for some time and was turned back on an earlier attempt to reach the island after being shot at by one of the tribesmen, whose arrow pierced his waterproof bible. he went back, and that time, he was killed. an anthropologist claims that another reason about approaching the tribe. >> if i go there, i may not pas
pass. and they may kill them. they are not used to anything. >> now, ebony, chau's family posted a message on instagram, saying that they forgive those responsible for chau's murder. they also said that they would like to see the fishermen, those who assisted chau on his ill-fated trip be released from prison because they say that he went of his own free will. they should not be punished for what he did. ebony. >> ebony kellogg and malan. aaliyah linda. >> leland: wouldn't we want to know about the investigations. he keeps calling it a witch. will it be enough to put on enough to robert muller's russia probe? the debate coming next.
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>> ebony: president from submitting written answers to questions from special counsel robert mueller in the investigation of possible collusion with russia in the 2016 campaign. but will it be enough to satisfy me other, or will he still try to pursue an in-person intervie interview. we are going to get information right now. former republican congresswoman and member of the independent women's forum board of director directors. for innumerate democratic congressman from the tar heel state. thank you both for joining us. >> thank you. happy thanksgiving. >> ebony: i will start with you.
now the president and certainly has legal team have consistently called this witch hunts. i can understand why these inquiries feel that way, but many are wondering if the president is true to his word. if he has done nothing wrong here. why so resistant to the inquiry? >> i don't think he has been resistant to the inquiry. certainly as you know, and you are an attorney, sounds he has made repeated public statements that he is happy to cooperate with robert mueller. >> ebony: i think that that is accurate and fair. why do you think rudy giuliani is calling it a witch hunt? >> the president wisely has a team of attorneys whose job is to you now protect the president's right to have a fair process. and of course, rudy giuliani is also a public figure, so it is perfectly within his bounds on a
political basis to contend that this is a witch hunt. that does not change, as you know, their legal obligations and to continue to cooperate with the process, and they are doing so. so i think we have to celebrate the political rhetoric. and they are cooperating. >> ebony: that is a fascinating point. what do you think of combining here to represent the president in both the legal capacity, complying with some degree to the subpoena power but to the political rhetoric it, being a little bit defiant, what you think of that mixture? >> it is not the way that i would have chosen to do it. i would have also chosen to be more originally quiet than he has been. and we don't know what the written questions were.
we understand from what trumps lawyers have said that he did refuse to answer some on the grounds of executive privilege -- >> ebony: particularly those dealing with obstruction. >> he has refused to answer questions. so he has set for almost two years now that he wants his chance to tell his side of the story, but he doesn't want to submit to an interview, an actual sitdown interview, which would be the norm for anyone but the president, and he refused to answer questions on the basis of privilege. >> ebony: let me ask you this. as attorneys, we know that there is more controlled when there is written documentation. i will certainly never criticize someone for doing what is in the best interests of their client, so i understand, but comey has been indicating that he would like to have a face to face with the president. why do you think the president
is so reluctant if he is being forthcoming? >> what you mean mueller has wanted a face to face. certainly, james, you know, the president's firing of james comey was entirely within his discretion as the president of the united states. so i firmly agree with the many legal authorities, eminent ones included, who have said that firing does not in any way, shape, or form constitute obstruction of justice. >> ebony: no, i would certainly never make that type of accusation. we don't even know what the questions away and certainly not the answers, but if he is being truthful, why not just do the interview? >> i think it has been well established that the president could face very well a perjury trap. alan dershowitz we know has talked about it extensively and compellingly. that would be the same for anyone submitting to an
interview. that said, let's bear in mind as well that the president has determined that he is providing legal written answers, so those two have a legal way weight and gravity. >> ebony: we have to go. thank you both. happy thanksgiving. >> you too. >> leland: for him and loretta lynch, comey's response when we come back. sergeant baker, how are you? they took care of everything a to z. having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa- now that's a privilege.
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>> leland: and a fox news alert as james comey now responding to a subpoena from house republicans. they want to want closed-door depositions from him and loretta lynch, a decision that they made during the 2016 presidential election. we appreciate you being here. we heard from comey on thanksgiving. he said i will do it but only in an open hearing. we heard from james comey a lot, his book, his tv interviews. does he really have any say in this? or are they and the driver's seat? >> he has a say to the extent of negotiating. if you want me to come in voluntarily as we like to say in my business, sunlight is the
greatest disinfectant. watch let everybody watch my an. they will make a motion to quash the subpoena and they will run the clock out on you because, january 1, it isn't going to be a republican house. how would you like to have it? >> leland: give us percentages on this. which one is more likely? obviously, he says fine, i will come to an open hearing. he comes in, can you run the clock out on it, or is there a chance that a judge says no, you have to come into a closed-door hearing right now? >> if i am the republicans, why would i take that chance? if i'm confident in what i'm doing and it's really not a political weapon, remember, what are subpoenas designed to do? get evidence. what is evidence? you have a conclusion, you have a belief.
now you need information to back it up. that is called evidence. relevant evidence makes that more likely than not. >> leland: i want to get your take on this. bob goodlatte, the chairman, he says that everybody else we are going to talk to you can listen to what comey says and then compare notes and some to mike suddenly everyone opens up. is that a reasonable enough argument? is that compelling enough for a judge to open up? >> i don't think so. remember, we are all about right to access and transparency. we don't operate through a star chamber. we want the public to be confident that it what is going on as far as our system of justice is open and everybody can watch it. so i think mr. comey may actually have the better of the argument, and it's going to be very interesting. again, this notion of the clock is going to run out, and cinderella won't have her shoe
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♪ >> we are going to debate later what the best time to eat that turkey is. in the meantime, a lot of news. welcome to "america's news headquarters." >> president trump keeping of his beef with chief justice john roberts. >> and this, former fbi director james comey confirming he got a subpoena from house republicans. who only have a few weeks left to hold hearings, and he is reportedly not the only one. we will tell you was on the lis list. >>