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"the five." we hope you all had a wonderful thanksgiving. we'll see you tomorrow. "special report" next. ♪ >> welcome to washington and happy thanksgiving. president trump keeps up its war of words with the top just as on the supreme court. it is a most unusual thanksgiving for thousands displaced by the northern california wildfire, and an early look at the democratic field for the 2020 presidential campaign. this is "special report." ♪ good evening, happy thanksgiving. i am mike emanuel and for bret baier. president trump is taking a holiday from his twitter habit tonight. the president is continuing his criticism of the federal judiciary in general, and supreme court chief justice john roberts in particular. it comes in a thanks giving holiday when the president expects his thanks to hid their
troops while staying close to the home. correspondent kevin corke as of the presidents resort at west palm beach tonight. good evening. >> good evening, mike. good to be with you and happy thanksgiving. the president spending this benign evening, 2019, having thanksgiving dinner and spending time with his family. something he began the day by thanking those who are not quite as lucky. >> those look like pretty good sandwiches. i don't want one. [laughter] they look very good. >> >> is a time-honored thanksgiving tradition for the commander in chief, extending the gratitude of the american people to those who serve and protect. president trump doing so today, both in person and by phone. >> i want to express our profound gratitude for the extraordinary sacrifices you make to defend our nation while you are away from your families and loved ones. >> it was a visible outpouring of appreciation from mr. trump.
still, in stark contrast to his predecessors. president bush paid a surprise visit to u.s. troops in iraq over the thanksgiving holiday in 2003. president obama met with troops, both in 2010 and again in 2014. mr. trump's comparative absence has drawn sharp criticism from some, even sparking speculation that he simply doesn't want to go. defense secretary jim mattis rejected that notion, adding that security is always a concern. the president is the commander in chief and he decides where he needs to go. there are times i don't want him in certain locations." while the president did hint today, as well as earlier in the week that he does intend to visit american troops abroad, there was no ambiguity about his feelings on border security. sitting against the day that he authorized american troops in the u.s.-mexico border, to use lethal force if necessary against an approaching group of migrants. also threatening to close the
"whole border," if it means protecting americans and see if sovereignty. >> if they have to, they will use lethal force. i've given the okay. i hope they don't have to. but you know, you are dealing with a minimum of 500 serious criminals. so i'm not going to let the military be taken advantage of. i have no choice. >> the president was also active on twitter this thanksgiving day, including a pair of missives aimed at supreme court chief justice john roberts and the ninth circuit court of appeals, with which the administration has sparred over a number of, they feel, politically motivated legal challenges to the trump agenda. including border security and asylum policies. >> i know that chief justice roberts, john roberts, has been speaking a little bit about it. i think we have to use some common sense, the ninth circuit, everybody knows it's totally out of control. it's a disgrace, frankly. essentially, they are legislating, they are saying what to do.
>> mike, it's important to point this out. there are a are a party plenty of reasons to believe that the president will follow through on his threat to shut down the "whole border." you may remember it was back on monday when the port of entry wasn't shut down for several hours amid security concerns concerns. mike? >> mike: kevin corke with the president, west palm beach, florida. many thanks. republicans trying to tie up loose ends before they lose control of the house next year, planning to out with a political bang. correspondent lauren blanchard tells us they are summoning two of the top justice officials from the obama administration for one last grilling. >> a thanksgiving surprise. the house judiciary committee serving up subpoenas to former fbi director james comey and former attorney general loretta lynch. the committee wants to question the two on their decisions at the fbi and doj during the 2016
presidential election. comey tweeted this morning, confirming the subpoena, "i will resist a closed door thing because i've seen enough of their selected leaking and distortion. let's have a hearing and invite everyone to see." an attorney for comey said the subpoena is a way to promote a "false narrative," calling it a political stunt, adding "mr. comey and comey embraces and welcomes a hearing up into the public, but the subpoena issued yesterday represent an abuse of process. a divergence from house rules and its presumption of transparency." republicans have wanted to talk to comey and went to determine if there was any anti-trump bias that affected their agencies when it came to the client an email case and so trump-russia collusion case. comey has previously offered to testify as long as it was public, a sentiment shared by many democrats. others have questioned the last-minute nature of these subpoenas. >> the idea there is this 11th hour subpoena about things that happened years ago, that are probably been litigated, they have been vetted, we know what
happened, it seems like a big stretch. >> republicans, including the chairman of the committee, retiring republican bob goodlatte, have insisted on closed door. >> it is simply not appropriate for mr. comey to attempt to turn this into some kind of a public performance on his part. may be to sell more books, i'm not sure what exactly his motivation is. >> the timing comes as the g.o.p.'s control of the house judiciary is nearing an end. the current stop democrat on the committee and likely next chairman, jerry nadler of new york, has reportedly called the subpoenas unfortunate. they came out of the blue. comey's attorney confirmed the fbi director -- or the former fbi director, has been asked to appear on december 3rd before the closed session. lynch has also been asked to appear next month. mike? >> mike: interesting based on the hill. lauren blanchard live in washington. thank you a lot. many residents of california are spending this thanksgiving with people they did not know even a month ago. they are among the thousands who
cannot be at home this holiday because of the massively destructive wildfire that has become the deadliest in the state's history. correspondent jeff paul is in chico, california tonight. good evening. >> happy thanksgiving, mike. search and recovery efforts up in the town of paradise continue with crowds and crews working around the clock, but down here in the community of chico, there is a different start of operation on the way. one that involves a focus on healing. no one envisioned this thanksgiving. >> it's been a roller coaster ride. >> patty and thousands of others and paradise california has lost everything. her house, one of the more than 13,000 that burned to the ground by the she somehow is thankful. >> it's just -- it warms my heart. it will stay with me for the rest of my life. the goodness that came.
>> that goodness coming from hundreds of strangers who are spending their thanksgiving cooking and serving people just like patty. so i'm driving more than 16 hours to make this thanks giving possible, others coming right off the fire lines to help. >> i am just grateful to be able to serve them. it's humbling and it's an honor. >> even celebrity chefs like jose andres lending their cooking skills. >> it is a beginning of something very beautiful. food is who we are. thanksgiving is when the best of america shows up. >> and others like chefs guy fieri, with so many hurting, food can be the best medicine. >> reached out, help your neighbor, where the greatest country in the world, we need to act like it and show one another. >> despite the thanksgiving holiday, authorities say more than 800 police officers and
firefighters spent the day sifting through wreckage. more than 80 people killed in the camp fire and hundreds still considered unaccounted for. mike? >> mike: got to love the compassion of those volunteers. jeff paul live in chico, california. thanks a lot. president trump is once again defending his decision to not punish saudi arabia over the death of a saudi journalist. now he would seem to have some backup from one of his justifications. correspondent benjamin hall fills us in. >> improved iranian rockets are now capable of hitting u.s. bases across the middle east, according to a top or a knee in general. the threat from iran was one of the reasons president trump chose to maintain close ties of saudi arabia in the aftermath of the khashoggi murder. on cue today, the iranians seem to validate his claims, seeing if americans in the region moved company would strike. this morning, the president tweeted, citing secretary pompeo, saying, "it's a mean and nasty world out there. the middle east in particular. this is a long and historic
commitment and one that is absolutely vital to america's national security." he followed it up by talking at length about khashoggi, the kingdom, and the killing. >> they are vehemently denying it, and we have hundreds of thousands of jobs. do people really want me to give up hundreds of thousands of jobs? frankly, if we went by this standard, we wouldn't be able to have anybody who is an ally. >> khashoggi skilling has had reproductions. today denmark and finland announced they would be halting exports of military equipment to saudi arabia. both because of the khashoggi murder but principally because of the worsening situation in yemen. they followed germany and doing so. saudi arabia has now spoken out for the first time since president trump's' statement come appearing on the bbc. the foreign minister again denied involvement of the royal family, and warned that further criticism of crown prince mohammed bin salman is a redline. it now looks like that the crown prince could make turkey president erdogan, face-to-face at the g20 summit.
turkey insist the killing happen of the highest level of the saudi government and as we defer first time the two leaders have met since. the khashoggi case is far from over. there is a growing foreign policy rift in the a republican party. while many feel the president's outcome was the right one, they wish it would have been more nuanced. mike? >> mike: benjamin hall in london. thank you. president trump's upcoming meeting with a chinese counterpart could be a lot more contentious than either one of them has planned. that is partially because of increasing tensions between the u.s. and china over trade. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge tells us tonight national security is also becoming a major issue in the relationship. >> for the first time in 25 years, the asia-pacific summit ended without a formal joint statement among the 21 liters, china was apparently the holdout over trade disagreements. >> in the president's words, china has taken advantage of the united states for many, many years. those days are over.
it is because the chinese president addressed a strategic dilemma. >> translator: mankind has once again reached a crossroads. which direction should we choose? cooperation or confrontation? >> after the u.s.-china clash at apex, they are focused on the upcoming g20 summit in argentina, where president trump and xi are expected to meet. recently signing cybersecurity legislation, the presidents lay down a marker. >> china wants to make a deal, they sent a list of things that they are willing to do, which was a large list. and just not acceptable. >> china, in my opinion, is the biggest national security threat to long-term this country will ever face. number one, two, three priority when it comes to intelligence gathering is america when i come to china. >> bob anderson, former a cystic comic assistant fbi director specializing in hacking, spine, and espionage. he said the bureau is badly outnumbered by china. >> ministry of state security,
think of it as their fbi without any rules. there are 35,000 men and women in the fbi. there are 400,000 in the am as f. >> >> october, the justice department indicted a member for allegedly targeting u.s. aerospace and aviation technology. earlier this month, the department took the unusual step of singling out a tiny state owned company after a 20 month investigation. the fbi now has chinese economic espionage cases in almost all 50 states. while it's hard to quantify the economic cost, this independent commission on intellectual property theft found the damage could run as high as 600 billion annually. anderson said it doesn't stop there. >> specifically with china and russia, there has been alliances between them. you have to look at that with a weary eye because when you put two countries of that magnitude with the amount of intelligence organizations that they have against our country, it is unbelievably significant. >> and responsive chinese
embassy provided fox news with a 70 page document that alleges the current u.s. administration stigmatizes china by accusing it of intellectual property theft, adding the allegations are a "gross distortion of the facts." mike? >> mike: catherine herridge in washington. thank you. up next, it is never too early to start talking about the 2020 presidential campaign. we will look at the democratic field when we come back. first, here's what some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox 5 in san diego with the passing of the oldest u.s. military survivor of the attack on pearl harbor. he died in his sleep wednesday. he had visited washington back in may where he was honored by president trump during memorial day services. he was 106. fox 5 in new york, frigid temperatures and blustery winds buffeted by standards at the macy's thanksgiving day parade. the giant balloons were able to take off on one of the coldest thanksgivings in the city and
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♪ >> mike: the focus of many political junkies now that the midterms are largely over is on "20/20", and the democratic presidential race that promises to be crowded and contentious. tonight correspondent peter doocy tells us where things stand right now with some of the people still on the outside looking in. >> in 2020, will democrats try to beat a billionaire from new york with a billionaire from new york? >> we just got to get guns out of the hands of people who should not have them. >> former new york mayor michael bloomberg, once a republican and an independent, just spent more than $100 million helping others on rack in the midterms and pledged $1.8 billion to john hopkins, the biggest university or nomination ever traversed financial aid for students. he also took aim at president trump after the midterms, writing, "ripening the
house, democrats can serve as a bulwark against a white house that has shown no respect for the rule of law and to no interest in bringing the country together." another billionaire outside are thinking of getting in, tom steyer, who will soon start hosting town halls and who has recently shifted away from a platform focused mostly on impeaching president trump and towards one more focused on the environment and the economy. >> we need to redefine what it means to be free in the 21st century. to make sure we all have the same chance to earn our fair share of america's prosperity. >> but it's not just billionaires with eyes on 2020. several lawmakers are already hiring staff are visiting early states, from the house, congressman eric swalwell and to jauntily and he prayed from the, kamala harris and cory booker, who planned to campaign for the democratic campaign and mississippi's special election, plush senators kirsten gillibrand, elizabeth warren, and their colleagues who just run back in the big state, ohio
senator sherrod brown's. >> among the former officeholde, that said to be thinking about character mike challenging trump, joe biden, eric holder, and the soon-to-be former congressman wo just raised more money in a quarter than any democratic senate candidate ever, and continues getting the vip treatment, beto o'rourke. >> it sounds like it might be open to a possibly? >> i haven't made any decisions. probably the best way for me to put it. >> bernie sanders is going to jump into the democratic field,o register as a democrat. last cycle he got more than 13 million primary votes but he's officially an independent and the dnc change the rule so only people with a d next to their name can play in their primary. mike? >> mike: peter doocy in washington. thank you. one thing many democrats would like to change before the 2020 election is how americans pick their president. tonight correspondent molly line tells us about the latest efforts to get rid of the electoral college.
>> in recent years, the latter's critics decrying the electoral college have been democrats. particularly after hillary clinton won the popular vote but lost the election in 2016. the second democrat after alcor to suffer such a blow, now a legal challenge with cross barred against on partisan backing, aims to tweak the system and change the winner-take-all allocation used by the vast majority of states. >> the existing system does not benefit small states. it benefits the battleground states. national popular vote would benefit the larger states. >> the losses target both red and blue states, particularly texas, and south carolina, massachusetts. plaintiffs include both democrat and republican voters. a harvard professor, part of the groups of income explains. spoke of the solution we are looking for, promotional allocation of elections, would benefit every voter in every state that has an opportunity to swing an electorate to a
presidential candidate. to speak of the group argues proportional allocation would encourage candidates to campaign across the country beyond this swing states. votes cast would not be discarded simply because the voter is not in the majority. for instance, in texas, nearly 4 million votes were cast for clinton, but all 38 electoral college votes want to trump. in massachusetts, trump did not collect any of the states and 11 electoral, though more than 1 million voted for him. massachusetts secretary of state william galvin is fighting the suit. >> many people for my party are frustrated by the fact of the popular vote winner is not the person sitting in the white house. but i think casting more uncertainty into the process by having this sort of a rational system of percentages and a weighted vote does not make any sense. speak of the plaintiffs hope to see the case reached the supreme court prior to the 2020 presidential election. mike? >> mike: molly line in massachusetts. thank you very much. i faxed, why some veterans are
having a tough time making ends meet this thanksgiving because the government is falling behind. first, beyond our borders tonight. the european union and britain have agreed on a draft declaration about the future of their political relations after brexit. this sets up e.u. approval this weekend. representatives from all 28 e.u. countries are due to meet tomorrow. the u.k. and the e.u. agreed last week on a 585 page document sealing the terms of britain's departure. nissan motor company fired carlos ghosn as chairman. it ends his nearly two decade long reign as the japanese automaker. the leaning tower of pisa is not leaning so much anymore. after more than two decades of efforts to straighten it out, engineers say the famed tuscan bell tower has recovered about an inch and a half and is in better structural health than predicted. the 12th century tower reopened to the public in 2001 after being closed for more than a
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the pentagon. jennifer, thank you. the inspector general at the v.a. says the agency need to do a better job processing claims involving service related als, commonly known as lou gehrig's disease. the study found such cases had a high risk for improper payments with an error rate of 45%. that resulted in estimated underpayments of about $750,000 and over payments of about $649,000 to a total of 230 veterans who report claims the complexity of the claims. president trump reaches out to the troops on this thanksgiving and firing at the nation's top judge. we'll talk about it with the panel when we come back. ♪ giveness, liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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i know that chief justice roberts, john roberts, has been speaking a little bit about it. and i think we have a lot of respect for him, i like him and i respect them, but i think we have to use some common sense. his ninth circuit, everybody knows it's totally out of control. what they are doing, what they are saying, the opinions, they are very unfair to law enforcement. they can't believe the decisions that are being made by these judges. >> mike: president trump expressing frustration with parts of the federal judiciary on this thanksgiving day, as he looks at the immigration laws, a pet project of his. also hinting at the possibility that the commander in chief could go visit the troops sometime soon. >> very much doing the job, i'll see you when you are the united states or maybe i will see you over there. you never know what is going to happen. i know what you have to do and i have seen it and a lot of different forms but i have seen the waters you've had to go through and very few people can do it. it takes special people to do
it. >> mike: the commander in chief calling the troops and visiting with coast guard folks in person. let's bring in the panel. michael warren, senior writer at "the weekly standard. alex wayne, white house editor for ""bloomberg news"," and tom rogan, commentator, commentary writer for the "washington examiner." your thoughts on the commander in chief. he has not been to a war zone yet. is he going soon? >> i think he is going soon, we will see that for christmas, potentially the next couple of weeks. afghanistan will be the natural place if you will go. one of the biggest interestings for the president, which we have seen john roberts, the notion of constitutional powers, the president earlier today as well was speaking to a naval officer and talking about nuclear physics, oddly. it was very striking to see -- this is where i think you see president trump having a pretty good rapport with the military brass, the elite to commit a four star generals, as well as the enlisted personnel. he does have a deference to their expertise. i think he likes the fact that
they their job is to destroy the enemy. but at the same time, it is to the president's credit. that his best in a way in the military in a sense that he defers to better judgment but he also has a respect for at&t is willing to listen. that earlier discussion with a nuclear physics guy, the officer today, there was a disagreement but he was like, okay, you don't see that with other people. so i think the opportunity for the white house coming off the back of the mentor was to go to a war zone, is to take them actually, the president, as george w. bush was to a degree. >> mike: we remember george w. bush going to war zones on the holidays. president obama made several visits. your thoughts on this president, as our white house editor on the panel? >> it's puzzling he hasn't got already. by this point in his presidency, barack obama had gone to iraq once, gone to afghanistan once.
in just a couple of weeks on december 3rd 2010, barack obama went to afghanistan for a second time. it's not clear really why trump hasn't gone yet. jim mattis said he advised him not to go to certain places, did not name those places. it suggests that perhaps things are may be worse in afghanistan then the public is really understanding at this point. it's just not safe enough for the president to visit. >> i think this gets to a sort of complication with a trip for the president to a combat zone in the middle east, which is that the president himself has stated his opposition to the united states military being involved in afghanistan. he sort of was bold kicking and screaming by his advisors to continue into our engagement and afghanistan. he's very frustrated with the way that has gone, since he agreed to that southern, south asia policy as he did last year. the same in syria, fighting isis, i think he wants to be done and out of there. what a trip to visit the troops assigned a mixed message? what it may be perceived as an endorsement? those are the kinds of things
that this public relations-contras president is thinking about. it's interesting to hear him tease that. i think i'm skeptical he's going to follow through. >> mike: what do you gentlemen make up the back and forth between the president and the chief justice of the supreme court? >> i think he is certainly not the first president to grumble about a court ruling going against him. against his administration. i think what is different here is the public way that he is going about it and the personal way he seems to be taking most, that he talks about this judge was appointed by a democrat. appointed by obama. i think that is where you are getting justice roberts really kind of feeling like he has to defend the impartiality or rather the independence of the judiciary. that we may be nominated by presidents of a certain party but ideally, we are that presidents guy on the bench -- you do hear this. neil gorsuch, the president's
first major accomplishment on the supreme court, very early on in his supreme court tenure, ruled against the president on an immigration issue. you often see this, where these judges rule against them. the president seemed to take it too personally. >> mike: your thoughts? >> i think this president has upset so many norms and expectations that we had for the presidency before he took office, and one of those is in challenging institutions that his predecessors but never have so publicly challenged. the courts are one of them. the federal reserve is another example. he is repeatedly criticized the federal reserve and the chairman of the pad personally for raising interest rates. you do not hear that from previous presidents. i think there are consequences to it. i think he risks shaking constant dull my confidence in those institutions by criticizing men. >> mike: tom, your thoughts? >> analytically, you look at the traditional role of the judiciary in terms of the constitutional finding separate but equal, chief justice roberts had to stand up for the court.
we all know there are political ideologies behind different judges but it's the principle that must be equal justice under the law, chief justice had to stand up for it. it was quite striking today, president trump, very presidential, and an unusual sense for the president, a sense quite normal, he was having this disagreement politely with a naval officer but he also said chief justice roberts, i respect the guy. there is no animosity that you normally see played with trump, it's almost like he is out on the yacht tweeting and when he comes back into that moment and then he thinks about it, and as long as someone has the respect -- he does make it personal. if you do that with the president, he listens for. >> mike: in our brief time left in the segment, i want to briefly get to how judiciary republicans calling former attorney general at loretta lynch and james comey to the hill. briefly. >> very briefly what they should have done, and what probably will happen as you have an open and closed session. their classified stuff there, some of it very classified because of for a allies. do it both way.
i think comey has a point, that there is a political agenda. do both come up and closed. >> i'm a journalist, i'm a big fan of jim comey having an open hearing instead of a closed-door hearing. >> if it is closed, there will be leaks from the republicans and democrats, no one will agree and what is actually said. i think that is a problem in getting clarity of what they are looking for. >> mike: is it too late? should they have done this before the midterms? >> yes, i think so. i think jim comey doesn't do himself any favors by getting out ahead of his lawyers a statement making this tweet here. i think it makes him look a little petty. the lawyer's statement should speak for itself. >> mike: gentlemen, stay with us. next up, the democrats prepared to fight it out for the 2020 presidential nomination. ♪ today, 97% of employers agree
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♪ >> what they represent is an out of touch billionaire. that is not with the democratic party needs. we need few fewer corporate competitions, contributions, more people comfortable talking about medicare for all. that is not what bloomberg stands for. >> a ticket that would look like something maybe like a bloomberg, certainly has the funds to self finance, with a vp
of kamala harris. i think that is a ticket that would be a pretty tough to get because he would have a self-funder and a woman who's got a really good record. >> mike: we recognize we are just getting through the 2018 midterms but it's never too early to start talking about 2020. a lot of folks on capitol hill and elsewhere are thinking about running. let's take a look at the cnn poll done in october looking at the top five there. former vice president joe biden, senator sanders, senator harris, senator warren, and senator booker. i believe booker was tied with former secretary of state john kerry. so we will see how this shakes out. we are back now with our panel. michael, alex, and tom. your thoughts on "20/20" democrats? >> well, i think -- we were talking on the brake care -- it was mentioned by the panel, i can't take credit, in terms of
the potential, i think the challenge for democrats would come in terms of having a candidate who can come against trump in terms of that -- the president's ability to win that war in 2016, if you have a candidate that is seen as too far left, talking about a lot of things that republicans say with a very simple graph, this is how much your taxes must increase and it is not just the ritual pay for it. there is a problem. how do you find the balance between being a moderate to the general electorate and being someone who can appeal to the identity politics in the democratic party is best rendered by alexandria ocasio-cortez, which is very real. that is a challenge. for my perspective, i think joe biden would be their best bet. and then kamala harris, cory booker, people who are in the line. i think democrats are going to have a challenge in terms of that line. >> mike: then there is a wild card, tom steyer, who has deep pockets, take a look at this. >> i grew up believing the point
of our country was to be free, the promise that everyone could make a good life for themselves. but over time, i saw big corporations buy our democracy and set the rules for the sake of their profits, not for the common good. corporate lobbyists rigged the system, leaving the majority of americans walled off from their dreams. we need to turn this around. we need to redefine what it means to be free in the 21st century. to make sure we all have the same chance to earn our fair share of america's prosperity. >> mike: alex, your thoughts in a potential self-funder like him and a branch of the democrats on the health considering a run? >> there is a number of wealthy democrats like tom steyer, michael bloomberg, howard schultz, the former chairman of starbucks, who are eyeing this race. we are watching for smoke signals from those guys. it's not clear whether they will jump in. i think it will depend somewhat on whether someone like beto o'rourke really catches fire among the democratic base.
>> meanwhile, eric swalwell, congressman from california, good on tv. he is already talking about how you can win i will. take a listen to this. >> show up up and listen. i'm a son of two republicans. my brothers are cops, i worked as a prosecutor in law enforcement. so i understand what a lot of them care about. by accident, donald trump stumbled onto a lot of these issues, people who felt they were disconnected, were to scene, were interred, but he's not delivering for them. i don't think you have to install those people, you just have to tell them how you will deliver for them. >> mike: michael, your thoughts? a very crowded field. do you see a lot of these folks trying to get out early to test these waters. >> it's wide open. this poll shows ad. bernie sanders came in second, very close second in 2016. he's only at 13%. i think that shows you, joe biden, again, the previous democratic vice president, i don't think he's going to run. i think he would have a very tough time winning these days. it seems to me that it's wide
open. i would not sleep on tom steyer. i think if there is going to be a billionaire who democrats embrace, it's going to be him. he's been pretty savvy. remember, he was running the whole impeach the president effort, he was sending out emails trying to compile a list, it was never going anywhere. but it did give him a big, nice email list of motivated democrats who want to vote out president trump. he's got them all -- she's got their ears. i think that is somebody who has really walked to the progressive line in a way that mike bloomberg, former republican, hasn't. howard schultz, one of the theh run a big corporation, the weight of the left-wing of the democratic party, where the energy is, would like to see. >> mike: do you guys have a most intriguing candidate you are thinking of at this point? >> right now i'm watching kamala harris. she's maybe a little bit overhyped. i was in california a couple of months ago and let people there say is people really like her farther you get away from
california. but she's laying the groundwork and i iowa, new hampshire. she's got a really good fund-raising game. >> it's not clear whether beto o'rourke is going to run but he's got a lot of money. >> amy klobuchar -- >> mike: all right. good tease. when we come back, thanksgiving traditions. ♪ if you're waiting patiently for a liver transplant, it could cost you your life. it's time to get out of line with upmc. at upmc, living-donor transplants put you first. so you don't die waiting. upmc does more living-donor liver transplants than any other center in the nation. find out more and get out of line today.
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we even make -- after this, we'll make irish cream to hand out. >> mike: nice. >> it's all about food. >> mike: alex? >> good food, fire outside, drinking, maybe santa claus jump mike drops by. >> mike: impressive. >> growing up in the u.k., my dan america, it was sort of abundant drinking, a fitting british culture and irish-american ancestry. here come a time with friends, my grandfather, 93-year-old former pacific marine yesterday, so the spirit of family and community, very important at times like this where there is some division. i actually think it would be better to have debates about politics because you have to get along at the end because you are family. >> mike: i have to give a shout out to my wife. 23 people at my wife, four thanksgivings, a lot of greek appetizers, my mother-in-law brings the mushroom appetizers.
we are all about the food. we think of a gentleman, what are you thankful for the things given? >> my mother and my father. >> my kids, my wife. >> my family, kids, wife, parents, brother in law, and laws, everyone. >> mike: we think of our troops are in harm's way, we think of the firefighters who have been so heroic out in places like california and we certainly think of all of the people, all the professional seen and unseen men keep us safe in this country. >> and the ambassador in bourbon have a young 18 and 19-year-old marines for a black-tie dinner tonight. a nice move. >> mike: a beautiful touch. >> it's on twitter. i don't work for him but i thought it was impressive. >> mike: glad to know you don't work for him. [laughter] gentleman, happy thanksgiving. thank you for spending it with us. annette is at four "special report" tonight. i am mike emanuel in washington. very thankful for many blessings in my life right up next, a re-airing of "modern warriors," a veterans day special.
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