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consider the happy cookbook for the chef in your life. >> finish your christmas shopping and buy that cookbook. >> happy thanksgiving a day late. >> see you monday. >> fox news alert, tensions heightened at the southern border as president trump authorizes the use of lethal force threatening to shut down the whole border with mexico if illegal immigration becomes in his words uncontrollable. good morning, i'm rick leventhal and 10 pounds heavier after thanksgiving. >> i'm julie banderas. happy day to you. bill and sandra are off today. immigration one item of the list of grievances after the president's thanksgiving call to the troops and doubling down on his feud with justice john roberts revealing his suspicion on the courts before contradicting the c.i.a.'s
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findings. >> we're getting terrible decisions from the ninth circuit as usual. i know that chief justice john roberts has been speaking a little bit about it. and i think -- i have a lot of respect for him. i like him and i respect him but i think we have to use some common sense. saudi arabia has been a long-time strategic partner. i don't know if anyone will be able to conclude the crown prince did it but i will say this, i don't know. i don't know. >> kevin corke is live in west palm beach. critics say when it comes to saudi arabia and khashoggi, the white house is choosing to look the other way. what are they saying about that? >> well, i have to say this, julie, i'm glad you ran that clip there of the sound. it underscores the white house's thinking on this. they say on the record it's complicated. they note the sanctions that they've put on those
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individuals that they believe were involved in this circumstance and talk about the strong diplomatic outreach on background they'll tell you listen, this is about a big picture view versus maybe looking at a very specific incident. it is that thought process that seems to be guiding the white house's thinking on this. now, as i've also pointed out the president laid it out during the thanksgiving chat with u.s. service personnel yesterday also talking to the reporters in the room and explaining his mindset that this is a clear idea for him. >> president trump: saudi arabia has been a long-time strategic partner. they are investing hundreds of billions of dollars in our country. i mean hundreds of billions. they're keeping the oil prices low. the c.i.a. doesn't say they did it. they do point out certain things and in pointing out those things, you can conclude that maybe he did or maybe he
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didn't. >> clearly what critics will say, julie, is you lose the moral high ground if you cede that because of dollars and cents. >> how credible, then, is the president's threat to shut down the border to stop the migrant caravan he has been warning about? >> i tell you what, if you saw the pictures from monday, you can certainly tell that the president means business when he says he might do this. let me take you to twitter and share a bit of what he is talking about today. maybe thinking if he can get congress to do their part he won't have to take such extreme measures. he said this on twitter, republicans and democrats must come together finally with a major border security package which will include funding for the wall. after 40 years of talk it's finally time for action. fix the border for once and for all. all caps, now. the president has also said as you pointed out in your lead-in
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originally he has authorized troops to use lethal force if necessary against the approaching migrants and threatening to close the border if it means protecting american safety and sovereignty. >> president trump: they have to they'll use lethal force. i've given the okay. i hope they don't have to. but you are dealing with a minimum of 500 serious criminals. so i'm not going to let the military be taken advantage of. i have no choice. >> the white house officials have been clear saying the goal is yes, we want workers, we want them to come here lawfully but based on merit. that means if need be, they will upset the apple cart to try to keep people from taking advantage of the asylum system as it currently stands. julie. >> thank you very much. we'll have much more coming up. >> let's dig deeper on the showdown brewing at the southern border.
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president trump threatening to close the border if the white house believes mexico has lost control of the situation as more migrants arrive seeking asylum in the u.s. jonathan hunt is live in los angeles with more on this. jonathan. >> good morning, rick. 5,000 migrants on mexico's side of the border. president trump is threatening as you heard to shut the southern border completely. >> president trump: if we mind it is uncontrollable, josh, if we find that it's -- it gets to a level where we're going to lose control or people will start getting hurt, we'll close entry into the country for a period of time until we can get it under control. the whole border. >> and with 5900 troops deployed to the border president trump compared the work those troops are doing with the work the u.s. military is doing around the world as he spoke to some of those stationed overseas on thanksgiving day. >> president trump: you want to make sure you know who we are
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letting in. we aren't letting in anybody essentially because we want to be very, very careful. so you're right. you are doing it over there, we're doing it over here. your people at the border -- >> at the border yesterday u.s. customs and border protection shut down vehicle traffic at the port of entry for what they termed a large-scale exercise and not known if it was related to the caravan situation and a group of 500 migrants marched toward the border yesterday to demand better living conditions as they prepare for what could be a month's long wait to get their asylum applications processed. they were met and stopped by mexican police and secretary of state mike pompeo reiterated president trump's point yesterday saying, quote, the caravans will not be permitted to enter the united states.
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secretary pompeo acknowledged the dangers the migrants face and said the u.s. will work with mexico to meet the challenges the caravans have created. >> looks like more showdowns ahead. thank you. >> for more on this let's bring in daniel halper contributing editor to the washington free beacon. what do you make first of all of the president's threats to shut down the border. he has essentially said that he wanted to stop this whole ambassador -- asylum program. the courts don't necessarily agree with him on that. plan b, shut down the border. do you think it will happen? >> it may. this has been in lock step with what he has been advocating since he started running for president. and i think there was this general misconception that his concern about the caravan had only something to do with the 2018 election and after the election he would no longer care about it. if you think about it from his
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perspective, look, this is his last best chance to get a border wall done. congress, he has a republican congress for another month and if he can get them to act now, he has a greater chance of doing that than trying to get a democratic house and republican senate to get together and provide border wall funding next year or in the next congress. i think that's not lost on the president. i think taking drastic measures showing how much that he cares about it right now to try to get something done is perhaps what he is trying to do here. >> december will come and go so quickly. the republicans have very little time. let's say the border wall funding is not approved by january 1. what happens when the democrats take control when it comes to immigration? >> you know, he will look for leverage, i think. in a way, i think you're right. it is not likely to happen. very little tends to happen lame duck congresss. i doubt we'll see border wall funding in this one. the president will look for
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leverage. he understands it's a major promise he made in the 2016 presidential election. the next election for him is 2020. he wants to say he has done or tried to commit to this main promise and he looks for leverage over the democrats. he tries to say i'll give you something in exchange for this and i think he tries to work out some sort of deal. >> you just highlighted the fact it's a lame duck session. most times nothing gets done. that's the problem. the solution, i would imagine, rather than trying to just jam through all this policy by january 1, which is unrealistic, why not come up with a compromise? you know the democrats come january 1 take control of the house. what kind of come promise could there be? the democrats have to see the border crisis is looming and getting worse by the year with thousands heading to the border, 500 breaking off and some already crossing in the border patrol agents are
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overwhelmed. the democrats must see there has to be some sort of resolution and granting asylum to each one that comes across our border is not the solution. >> there will be pragmatic democrats who make the case within the caucus. a lot of left wing democrats who got swept into office in the recent election who won't want to compromise at all. the democrats will be pushing for infrastructure next congress and other big government big spending. president trump might be inclined to do. there are paths, of course, that are conceivable. that's if both sides want to make a deal. right now there is no reason to believe the democrats want to make a deal. and of course we don't know who their leader will be. so there will be inclinations. do not make any deals with donald trump no matter what. wait until next election. by the way, hillary clinton the other day, she actually said something to the effect of we need to -- in europe if you
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want to stop the populous rise you need to put a curb on migration. there is real isization we have to stop this issue other people of a populous nature will gain control. is that message heard loud and clear among the democratic caucus? maybe not. >> where are they going to put them? if you don't want to block them where do democrats expect for them to go and who will pay for it? that's the question i would like to see answered. thank you very much for coming on. thank you. >> the fallout continues after president trump doubled down on his defense of the saudis despite signs the crown prince could be linked to the killing of khashoggi. >> they want to question comey and -- a democratic congress on the intelligence committee coming up.
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it all means massive disruption to the car industry, cities, businesses and investors. i'm martyn briggs for bank of america merrill lynch. >> julie: terrifying terrifying moments for the university of washington marching band when their bus rolled over injuring 40 people. it happened yesterday on a highway of seattle. they were on their way to perform at the apple cup between in a football game. none of the injuries considered serious. >> rick: republican chairman of the house judiciary committees issuing subpoenas to james comey and loretta lynch. house republicans want to
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question both high level obama officials how the justice department and bureau handled the investigation into hillary clinton's use of a private server. let's bring in connecticut democratic congressman jim himes, the chairman of the house new democrat coalition and sits on the house intelligence committee. republicans say it's about decisions made and not made by the d.o.j. during the 2016 presidential election choosing to pursue president trump's alleged ties to russia but not hillary clinton's use of a private email server. what say you? >> i say that's just absolutely not true. the f.b.i. investigated hillary clinton's use of that server, as you know, jim comey during the presidential campaign announced the existence of that investigation to the public. did not announce the investigation or the existence of the investigation into the president and his campaign and then famously 11 days before the election announced he was reopening that investigation.
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so that investigation of the server has been undertaken. it has been reviewed by the inspector general and rejude by people like me with access to classified information, which is why look, i welcome the testimony of jim comey and the former attorney general. every time these individuals have the opportunity to speak in public, the truth comes out. and truth is not the friend of those republicans like devin nunes and bob goodlatte who are desperate to get back to the topic of hillary clinton appeared her efrjs mails. >> rick: that's because republicans argue there wasn't enough done. it didn't go far enough and didn't put her perhaps in the spot that they think she should be in at this point. >> so the same republicans put her for nine hours of open testimony in front of one of their own investigations. so look, i understand especially now that it turns out that the president's
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daughter was doing exactly what donald trump ran on using a private email account for government business, i understand how they might want to go back to the hillary clinton thing. but look, this has been aired six times until sunday. as i say, bring it on. let's air it some more. i've been living this for a year or so, living the allegations there was improper behavior at the department of justice,at trump tower. none of these things out to be true. the more people are testifying in public about the fact the more it will be apparent that all these allegations are completely made up. >> rick: as far as ivanka's emails are concern there are a lot of differences between her and hillary clinton. she didn't create a private server, never classified classified information and all emails were retained according to the rules. >> of course they say it's apples and oranges.
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you have very senior government officials breaking the rules. i'm not justifying hillary clinton's use of a private server. i think it was wrong just as it was wrong for the president's daughter to do it and i'm sure they can find out one used a dell, one used an apple. one is blond and one is brown haired. the fact is you had senior government officials going against protocol and who knows whether those were retained or not? maybe if there is an investigation in ivanka's use of emails it is different. at the end of the day the important thing is the american public regain confidence in the f.b.i., in the c.i.a. for example once again the president of the united states is saying that all the good work done by the c.i.a. around the saudi arabian killing of khashoggi, i don't care, i don't believe that, who knows. we have a lot of work to do to reestablish the confidence that americans should have in organizations like the f.b.i. and c.i.a. and department of justice. >> rick: jim comey is set to
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appear december 3 and lynch will appear on the 4th. jim comey tweeted happy thanksgiving. got a subpoena from house republicans. i'm happy to sit in the light but i will resist a closed door thing. i've seen enough of their selected leaking and distortion. let's have a hearing and invite everyone to see it. >> what's appropriate in this case is every american has an interest in the light of day being shined on these issues. no american should be comfortable with the idea their government is operating behind closed doors. the exception to that would be if you need to ask jim comey about classified information. so i think at some level jim comey is right let's -- any question that's not about classified information and not about something we don't want out in the public let's ask it in an open hearing with cameras runings so americans can see questions and answers. if you need to ask about a fisa
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application or something that's classified let's get the cameras out of the room. again, so long as we're not asking jim comey about classified information, let's have a good open, transparent conversation that the american public can see and judge for themselves. >> rick: based on past experience if they ask him about classified information he won't answer that question. we appreciate your time this morning. hope you have a great thanksgiving weekend. >> thanks a lot. >> julie: president trump won't put pressure on saudi arabia to come clean about the brutal killing of a dissident journalist. he said the u.s. alliance with the kingdom is too important? is he right? a former advisor to the state department will be here straight ahead. >> rick: the holiday shopping frenzy has begun from black friday to cyber monday. are retailers getting the flood of bargain hunters they're hoping for? we'll take a trip to the mall later this hour. >> i haven't gone to sleep yet. we've been out since last night at 10:00. i've seen a lot of good deals.
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department senior advisor. the president is basically saying maybe they did, maybe they didn't. pointing out we don't know all the facts surrounding the murder of jamal khashoggi but he also says that saudi arabia basically says that they didn't do it. the crown prince denies any involvement. so he is going to take the crown prince at his word. is that the right decision? >> i think it is. we just need to move beyond this at this point. should ask the question what if the crown prince was involved? we'll be faced with the same factors in the middle east. we're involved in a conflict with iran. they're at war with the united states since 1979 and saudi arabia is a fundamentally important partner in that struggle. they spend $70 billion on defense. three times what israel is able to spend. that money is used to defend largely against iran. that's a very important alliance. also there is a huge double standard at play here. people in washington aren't pulling their hair out because
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another ally, turkish president erdogan. no ambiguity about him. he has put legions of journalists in prison. it's very odd. >> julie: this is a journalist who was victimized here. it also says a lot about allowing these sort of human rights violations, atrocities, if you will, to continue with a country that, of course, we lean on very much so economically on saudi arabia. so then the president cites the kingdom's includes over oil prices, by the way, is a huge factor here. he says, quote, if we abandon saudi it would be a terrible mistake and said he won't destroy the economy of our country over khashoggi by giving up the arms deals to saudi arabia. do we need saudi arabia more than they need us? >> you know, it's a sim biotic
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relationship. they need us more than we need them but they could take -- for example, there is a $20 billion arms package that is pending and they could turn to the chinese or russians who would be happy to sell them weapons if we were to cut them off. it's an important thing. one thing i would push back on against the conventional wisdom surrounding the case, this man, jamal khashoggi was a journalist. he wasn't really, he was an opinion writer and analyst. what got him killed is putting out. he was on the take from the saudi government eating at the trough and receiving -- >> julie: he was critical of the crown prince. >> then he went from being a supporter to being an opponent and the "washington post", which frankly has some culpability here put out his stuff. he put out articles how great the muslim brotherhood is and how the u.s. should embrace them. posted it in english and arabic that put him in harm's way. >> julie: how should congress
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respond? >> congress should do some oversight for real and put the c.i.a. back in its box. the c.i.a. has done a huge disservice to the president and congress in this instance. the guys across the river have a $50 billion a year budget if you look at the intelligence bureaucracy and they're guessing. they don't know in mbs was involved. based on the saudis work sort of. they leak it to the "washington post" in an effort to force the president's hand. put it in perspective and the outgoing disgruntled chairman of the foreign relations committee bob corker should hang it up and we should move on. >> julie: the fact of the matter is he was a journalist. he worked for the "washington post". there was an opinion side and a journalistic side. we have prime time and their opinion and during the day we're news. nonetheless he was a journalist and writing about the crown prince and if he stood up to the crown prince as most journalists sometimes have to
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do his life should not have cost him. >> i'm not saying he deserved what happened and neither is anyone here. this is a heinous crime and there should be a consequence and there has been. the president has cut off the refueling aircraft flying over yemen. sanctioned 17 senior members of the world families. at fox you have opinion and news and you have at real newspapers, that division. >> julie: tucker karlsson when he has people threatening him. why should tucker carlson not be respected from khashoggi of the "washington post"? >> it is important to realize this gentleman was an islamic activist. i'm not saying what happened is what he deserved. before we throw away alliances important to defending this nation's. president's job is to protect and not get on his high horse. >> rick: nancy pelosi's bid for
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house speaker as a challenger changes her tune. can she get the number she needs? >> julie: crews nearly complete their containment of the most destructive wildfire in california's state history. we'll have the live report from the ground straight ahead. it touches your tongue... and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum tum tum tum... smoothies... only from tums
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flooding. it will only further delay the search and recovery efforts. just yesterday they found the remains of one more person bringing the death toll to 84, hundreds still considered unaccounted for but it is fluctuating. number went down by 300 people in a day. they're hoping that number continues to head down. of course, this wet and windy weather is only delaying that process for crews out here. >> rick: the images are staggering. we see entire neighborhoods gone. looks like the one behind you is gone. how is the community doing on this thanksgiving week? >> it's incredible. we spoke with one woman who is like the folks at the house who were standing at who lost her home. she can't believe it's been two weeks since the start of the camp fire and in that time we've learned more than 13,000 homes have been destroyed. there is still a lot of people living out of shelters, bouncing from hotel to hotel,
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from friends's houses. yesterday it gave them their first opportunity to sit back even just for a moment and enjoy the holiday. volunteers from all across the area and country coming together to cook and serve them thanksgiving dinner. the survivors we spoke with say it really meant a lot to them. >> sometimes you take so much for granted. and when something like this, it has never happened to me personally, and when you lose something in a couple of hours, i mean, literally, our house is probably gone within the first part of the fire. >> authorities have started the conversation to start allowing more people who were evacuated to at least come back home and start assessing those damages. but they want to make sure it's
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safe first. it's really starting to come down and now it's only hurting that process. >> rick: 13,000 homes. such a long road ahead for those folks. thanks very much. >> julie: in efforts to block nancy pelosi from once again becoming house speaker, they've hit a snag. ohio congresswoman marcia fudge considered a challenge. now backing pelosi's bid one day after brian higgins reversed his calls for new leadership. let's bring in our political panel. mustafa tameez, ted harvey former colorado state senator and chairman of the committee to defend the president. nancy pelosi, she is getting closer to reclaiming the speaker's gavel after marcia
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fudge. fudge says pelosi is going to make fudge the chairwoman of an elections committee. does that sound like blackmail to you? >> not blackmail. an important initiative and important -- >> julie: don't challenge me and i'll reward you. go on. >> look, this is politics. but i have to be honest with you, this is an important initiative. we've seen voter issues around the country. many states are not doing what they should and i think this will be helpful. nancy pelosi is the most effective leader not just of democrats but as a speaker of the united states congress in modern times. she passed aca which protects americans' right to have pre-existing conditions and not be dropped insurance companies. she has done her job and done it well and will be the next speaker. >> julie: is it if you can't
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beat them, join them? it seems odd to me. >> fudge understood she didn't have the votes. nancy pelosi will be speaker of the house and tried to get whatever she could get out of the deal. like he said, that's politics. that's the way it works. i think that nancy pelosi will be the next speaker and she deserves to be the next speaker. she is the most effective legislator on the democrat side. >> julie: she is. she knows how to raise money and a great deal maker. this is one that i guess it is just politics but it just seems if the democrats want to bring in new blood every time one actually has the gal if you will to run against nancy pelosi, they get slapped down by nancy pelosi who says you don't stand a chance. just get behind me. mustafa, the issue of voting rights has been a top priority of members of the congressional black caucus which fudge used to lead. democratic leadership elections take place a week from today. is there any chance that
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anybody else is going to come out of the woodwork or is pelosi a sure foot in? and is this part of the plan for 2020? >> look, she has -- you heard from both sides. she is arguably the most effective speaker of the united states house of representatives. she has passed legislation and someone who has command of her caucus and is able to pass legislation bipartisanly if you look at her record. 70% of the legislation that passed under her leadership was bipartisan. why would you look for someone else? that's why no one is running against her. she proved herself to be an effective leader. not like paul ryan who is going to be remembered as someone who didn't accomplish very much as speaker of the house. at the end of the day you elect people that can get the job done and nancy pelosi can get the job done. >> julie: the president says he likes her, can you believe that?
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that's a quote and wants to work with her. we'll wait to see if that happens. thank you both, we appreciate you coming on. thank you. >> rick: did you watch any football with your turkey yesterday? >> i didn't have time. it was on my tv screen. >> the bears, saints, cowboys have lots to be thankful for. the bears another terrific showing by their defense. a big interception helping to extend their winning streak. 23-16 win over the detroit loions. the cowboys beat the redskins. cooper with a great performance. that one was 90 yards. took it to the house. and the saints drew brees looked amazing again defeating the falcons 31-17. winning their 10th straight game of the season. looking pretty good. >> julie: you sound like a
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in any circuit, yet every time the president does something that he is trying to protect us in the national security context we get a judge in the ninth circuit because it borders the mexican border, we get a judge who shoots it down until we appeal. i suspect the same thing that happened with the travel ban will happen with this appeal as well. >> rick: i want to show judge roberts' reaction to the original presidential statement. he wrote we do not have obama judges or trump judges, bush judges or clinton judges. what we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their best to do equal right to those appearing for them. the independent judiciary -- isn't it naive to suggest we don't have judges aligned to the president who appointed them? >> of course we have obama judges, clinton judges, trump judges. we don't elect those judges,
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they are appointed by our presidents at the time. and if we didn't have those judges, we would have nothing but homogenous opinions. the supreme court would have unanimous opinions. we have majority and dissenting opinions. we have different judges with different ideologies and political views and it comes into play when you interpret the law. >> rick: these courts are putting up roadblocks to the president's agenda and he is getting them overturned in some cases at the supreme court level. but is there anything else that he could possibly do about this situation? >> there really isn't. this is the way the process works. some would applaud that. those of us who don't want people coming here illegally the president is trying to avoid that. you can't come here illegally. for those of us who want to be protected against that it's a problem. the next court hearing will be next month and i suspect the
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ban will be overturned again. >> rick: finally, you believe that this judge in the ninth circuit is being fair, the judges are being fair or are they being -- are they using this as a political weapon against the white house? >> this is not at all fair. what this judge is doing is encouraging lawlessness and saying you can apply for asylum even if you come here illegally. how is that okay in any country, let alone the united states? >> next time tell us how you really feel. >> you got me fired up. >> julie: house republicans racing the clock before the democrats take control in january issuing subpoenas to james comey and loretta lynch. >> rick: the consumer contact sport is in full swing. we're in garden city new york at a mall on this black friday. >> me and my friend woke up at 3:00 in the morning and it was crazy. it was so hard to get up but
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>> julie: today is the day. you're either nuts to go out there or you love torture. big box retailers coast to coast bracing for millions of consumers looking to grab the door buster deals as black friday marks the start of the holiday shopping season. hillary vaughn is live from the roosevelt field mall in garden city, new york. what are these people doing? it's so early. set the scene for us. >> it is so early, julie. as you mentioned the lot of people are here for the torture. they want to get in on the black friday tradition. the big thing here is technology. that is where people are trying to get the best deals this time
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of year. look at the apple store. it is packed, completely full. there was a line outside down the hallway waiting for the doors to open. it's not the only line we're seeing here. this is the seventh biggest mall in america. so it's shocking that there are lines outside these stores. a lot of people here in line to buy some jewelry for their mom, their girlfriend, their daughter. 160 million people are planning to shop today and you know what? a lot of millennials are out today with their friends. we talked to a lot of high schoolers getting in on the black friday tradition. >> i haven't gone to sleep yet. we've been out since last night at 10:00 or something. so i've seen a lot good deals. i got some headphones, new keyboard, speakers. >> fun to get ready in the morning with your friends and go. we got up at 4:30 and we got together and go for coffee and we come. >> nice to get a personal experience. i never went black friday shopping. me and my friend woke up at 3:00 in the morning.
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it was crazy. it was so hard to get up but you have to do it. >> julie, millennials you think they want to shop on their phone. a lot are here. the one thing to note for the first time ever a lot of online shoppers are shopping on their phones. not even on their laptops. something that's interesting this season that we haven't seen before, julie. >> julie: all right. good for them. good for you. you get to be there, too. hillary vaughn, thank you very much. >> rick: i know where you won't be. >> julie: no, i will not. that's what our phones are for, no? online shopping? is that where you do your shopping? >> rick: you don't talk to anybody on your phone? >> julie: no, are you crazy? i'm a millennial. i don't know about you. i'm on my phone as much -- you know how the apple eye phone counts how many hours you are. scary. >> rick: do you celebrate when the percentages goes up? >> julie: it gives you the
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reminder, you're up 40%. what is your screen time? you know your average? >> rick: it tells you how much time you spend on games. >> julie: oh, you are a dork. >> rick: a fox news alert. president trump, the battle over immigration threatens to prompt a government shutdown. >> president trump: the most important part. could there be a shutdown? there certainly could. i just got my ancestrydna results: 74% italian. and i found out that i'm from the big toe of that sexy italian boot! calabria. it even shows the migration path from south italia all the way to exotico new jersey! so this holiday season it's ancestrydna per tutti! order your kit now
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>> julie: a warning shot from president trump threatening to shut down the entire southern border and demanding congress fully fund his border wall. welcome to a brand-new hour inside "america's newsroom," i'm julie banderas. >> rick: i'm rick leventhal. thank you for being with us on this friday after thanksgiving. should be a holiday. >> julie: it feels like one, don't it? i'm glad you guys are joining us. >> rick: the president says if mexico can't control its side of the border he may close all of it. he says he is giving troops the okay to use lethal force against migrants if they have to. >> president trump: mexico could not believe how tough these people are. the mayor of tijuana and so many others have said these are tough people. they start fighting right away. tough people. you have many criminals in that caravan. if we find that it's -- it gets to a level where we're going to lose control or where people
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will start getting hurt we'll close entry into the country for a period ever time until we can get it under control. >> rick: that was the president yesterday. this morning we have kevin corke live in west palm beach, florida. kevin. >> good to be with you, my friend. the president is bound and determined to stop this caravan from making its way to the u.s. border and over into this country. but right now he is asking congress to do something, rick. i think that really is what they're hoping that the congressional lawmakers will do on capitol hill. the president is imploring them to help him out so that he doesn't have to continue to escalate the fight. he says republicans and democrats must come together finally with a major border security package which will include funding for the wall. after 40 years of talk, it's finally time for action. fix the border for once and for all now. president ratcheted up the intensity of this debate yesterday saying yes, he would authorize the use of lethal
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force if necessary to stop the caravan and confirmed he has already done that. the caravan numbers in the thousands. >> president trump: they have to they'll use lethal force. i've given the okay. if they have to. i hope they don't have to. you are dealing with a minimum of 500 serious criminals. so i'm not going to let the military be taken advantage of. i have no choice. >> another level up, rick. the president warning he would shutter the whole border if needed to protect the safety and sovereignty of america and by the way, we saw an example of that. you may remember on monday over the port of entry. that was shut down for a few hours causing major headaches for travelers in that area. the white house said they want legal and frankly merit-based immigration in this country because we do need the labor. but they are also very clear to say it has to be merit-based.
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it can't be you show up at our border, ask for asylum and what you're asking for is a chance to work. critics will argue that we shouldn't have a policy play out like this because we're frankly hurting the world's poor. but as the white house official told me this morning, what about the american poor? we have an obligation to them first. >> rick: we'll have more on this later this hour. kevin corke near the winter white house in west palm beach. thank you very much. another fox news alert. former f.b.i. director james comey and former attorney general loretta lynch hit with subpoenas from the house judiciary committee demanding closed door depositions during their decisions of the 2016 elections with alleged russian ties to the trump campaign and hillary clinton's emails. let's bring in hugo gurdon from "the washington examiner". the committee says it's about decisions made and not made by the d.o.j. during the 2016 election choosing to chase allegations against president
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trump and alleged russia ties but not hillary clinton's deletion of tens of thousands of emails and her server. >> it is fair. origins of the investigation into alleged collusion between the trump campaign and russia involved at least questionable attitudes and biases. and it's also the case that no one believes that loretta lynch and president clinton, former president clinton met in secret in an airplane during the height of the campaign just to discuss their grandchildren and exchange pleasantries. it was immediately before james comey came out and said that hillary clinton would not be prosecuted. so there is a lot of suspicion and republicans have every right to look into it. >> rick: will this amount to anything? >> that's a much better -- much more pointed question and the right one, rick. what i mean by that is it's absolutely appropriate to
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interview these people, to subpoena these people to try and get what they have. but it is not going to amount to anything. it will be easy for both of these people to testify or in the case of james comey to refuse to testify. he has already said he will fight the subpoena. only a matter of weeks before the democrats take over these committees and i think they'll let these matters slide. i don't think this is actually going to achieve anything for the republicans except to point up these issues and show that these are issues that then get ignored by the democrats. >> rick: james comey says he is happy to sit in the light and answer all the questions but doesn't want to do it behind closed doors. he tweeted this yesterday. happy thanksgiving. got a subpoena from house republicans. i'm still happy to sit in the light and answer all questions but i will resist a closed-door thing because i've seen enough of their selective leaking and distortion. let's have a hearing and invite everyone to see. >> he says that he is open to -- he wants an open hearing.
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he has testified that way before and he and his lawyers say the reason they don't want closed door hearings is that there will be leaks. the truth is that both sides have been leaking what the information that they like to get out there. i really think that, you know, there are classified -- there is classified information relating to these investigations. and so obviously behind closed doors is the right way to ask questions about some of those things. to suggest that this is all about transparency is, i think, disingenuous on comey's part. >> rick: we've seen he can handle the spotlight and seems capable of answering and deflecting when necessary. what about loretta lynch? >> yeah, that's the really interesting one. i think loretta link would be much less comfortable doing this. james comey seems to relish being in the limelight when he can do a bit of grandstanding. you know he sold a book. he was -- while he was refusing
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to testify on capitol hill he was out in front of the cameras all over the place selling his book. so he likes that limelight. i think loretta lynch is a much more private person and there is something -- she also knows that the meeting that she had with president clinton during the height of the election campaign and the height of the hillary clinton email investigation was a misstep, a very bad misstep and raises legitimate questions about the probety. >> rick: we want to get jim himes takes of it and he thought it was much to do about nothing. >> every time these individuals have the opportunity to speak if public, the truth comes out. truth is not the friend of those republicans like devin nunes and bob goodlatte who are desperate, desperate to get back to the topic of hillary clinton and her emails. this has been aired six times until sunday. bring it on. let's air it some more.
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>> rick: what do you think? >> the democrats want to suggest that the republican oversight has been entirely biased. i know people who talk to me who, for example, entirely defend robert mueller. call him an upstanding guy and at the same time say what hillary clinton did was evidently wrong and there were clear reasons for prosecution. so it's not black, it's not white. there is truth on both sides of this. >> rick: we'll leave it there. hugo gurdon, thank you for being with us today. more reaction from house members coming up throughout the morning. democrat matt cartwright will join us at the bottom of the hour and we'll hear from republican sean duffy at 11:15 eastern. >> julie: another fox news alert on the fallout over the death of jamal khashoggi. president trump appearing to question the c.i.a.'s assessment that is confident the saudi crown prince was behind the saudi dissident's murder.
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>> president trump: i hate the crime. i hate what's done. i hate the cover-up. and i will tell you this, the crown prince hates it more than i do. and they have vehemently denied it. the c.i.a. points it both ways. >> julie: benjamin hall is live in london with the latest. hi, benjamin. >> rick: hi. there is a real sense that president trump wants to move on from this issue and focus on bigger picture policy issues in the middle east and said it in no uncertain terms yesterday. national security and the economy matter to him moeft. saudi arabia is also very keen to move on from this. earlier we saw the crown prince taking his first trip abroad since khashoggi's murder. it is a sign that he has the full support of king salman and remains the defacto leader of saudi arabia. he will be at the g20 summit in argentina where he will meet president trump and turkish
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president erdogan. the issue is not over. angry words from turkey as their foreign minister criticized president trump saying he appears to want to turn a blind eye to khashoggi's killing and describing many other nation's response as artificial and cosmetic. reports in turkish media say they have a tape of a phone call of the crown prince to silence khashoggi. president trump said i don't want to talk about it. you'll have to ask them. turkey is coming under the spotlight. since the coup attempt in 2016 turkey has arrested 319 journalists and arrests -- making turkey one of the worst countries in the world for free
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press. turkey and saudi arabia at odds over the muslim brotherhood. that's one of the background issues president trump has had to deal with all along while in the foreground we've had the khashoggi issue. >> julie: for more on this let's bring in retired army lieutenant colonel daniel davis. thank you for talking us to. >> always good to be here. >> julie: great to see you. when the president said he hated the crime committed here in that tape we just played. not a tape. he said the crown prince hates it more than i do and they have vehemently denied it. do you think the crown prince really hates it? >> he hates the publicity. >> julie: does he hate the crime committed? >> no. i think it's evident he does not. all evidence indicates that he, in fact, either directed it or certainly knew about it. the evidence is pretty clear on that. and i thif what the united
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states needs to do and what i hope the president does is say look, we have to deal with autocratic regimes but we're going to look after the interests of the united states first and that means our interest as well as our values. right now when it comes to saudi arabia, neither our interests nor our values say that we should support this in any way or just sweep it under the rug. the biggest egregious thing is not just the khashoggi issue but in the saudi war in yemen and how they are prosecuting that and million else of people suffering in that and they continue to bomb. that is not in america's interest or in our values. i think that should end immediately. and that will send a signal we aren't just going to allow people to do whatever they want to. >> julie: accountability no matter whether you're an ally or not. that should be the american way. the "washington post" reports president trump was vague with who he blamed exactly for the killing when he said maybe the world should be held accountable because the world is a very, very vicious place.
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the president's statement appeared to indicate he doesn't wish to take action against the saudi government in response to the killing of khashoggi. what kind of action should be taken if action were to happen here? >> well, again i go back to the situation in yemen. because that is a very powerful signal. we don't want to take action that will harm america's interest and i agree with that. just like we deal with turkey there as you just mentioned. we can't just cut things off every time we don't like something or we wouldn't be doing business with very many people but we have to make very clear there are consequences to actions and that we're not going to support something that is contrary to our interests and values. right now i think the best signal we could send both to saudi arabia and others is that we will cut off the support to the war that actually harms people and harms our own interest. we won't have it continue doing that. i think that's the best signal we can send. >> julie: the president said he
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wouldn't destroy the economy of our country and that's a quote over khashoggi by giving up arms deals to saudi arabia. the question is what message does this put out there on the world stage? does it send a message that the united states is willing to put economic interests above the country's morals? >> if we go down that path that's exactly the message it will send. autocratic regimes will get that message loud and clear but i want to clear up. this idea that we're almost on the weak side of this and that we need saudi arabia. it is the exact opposite. i assure you without the united states their planes don't fly, their tanks don't drive or ships don't sail effectively. they need us far more than we need them. they can't say we'll go and buy $20 billion from china or somebody else. their systems don't cooperate. they don't work that way. they need us a lot more and we can send a signal that we do not accept that kind of behavior. if they want to be our allies
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they have to bring their behavior into conformity with our values if they want to continue. >> julie: should president trump meet with the crown prince at the g20? >> i think he should to communicate that in person. to say look, this is not a cost-free relationship here. if it's mute you willly beneficial we'll continue on. i'm the leader of our people and our people don't accept that kind of behavior and there are consequences and deliver the message forcefully. >> julie: daniel davis, thank you for talking to you. >> rick: an american missionary killed on a remote indian island. what we're learning about his death and the tribe that attacked him. >> julie: the search continues for wildfire victims. how rain is helping and hurting the efforts. - [narrator] meet the ninja foodi, the pressure cooker that crisps. it's the best of pressure cooking and air frying all in one so in as little as 30 minutes it will be crispy
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so i feel pain and i feel anger and i just really wish that somebody were able to give us a place to go just to get out of the rain. i pray that this all works out and we can together form another community and form our town back and get our homes back. >> rick: california wildfire victims trying to come to terms with the heartbreaking new reality after the camp fire destroyed nearly 14,000 homes in the northern part of the state. this morning the fire is 95% contained. rain is helping but it is also hindering the search for victims with 84 confirmed dead and hundreds still missing. the fear is this rain could cause landslides and wash away burnt remains. lieutenant arywn rodriguera joins us on the phone and leading the efforts through multiple wildfires in the past
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year. what kind of assistance are you providing on the ground there? >> we have an amazing opportunity to provide spiritual and emotional care and direct assistance whether it's a hot meal or direct needs. our goal is to be present with people. listen and hear their stories and meet the direct need. >> rick: i'm sure the need for spiritual and emotional care is huge right now. >> it is absolutely huge. people are grieving. a community that was very tight knit has been disbursed. we have this unique opportunity to provide that community, whether it's our distribution center or the other shelters that we're serving hot meals at, we can be present and allow them to grieve and create that space. >> rick: you have trained therapists with you there to do this? >> we have been blessed with the opportunity to have over 1900 trained disaster professionals and volunteers that have been deployed throughout the state and specifically to camp fire
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survivors and those who have been impacted. >> rick: we heard a lot about the danger of the rain and flooding. what are the conditions there today? >> it's wet. i am looking out the window right now. there is a real strength and resilience in the community of people ready to show up and provide services for the most vulnerable. >> rick: this is obviously a holiday week and it is a time where people give thanks. i'm looking at these images where there are thousands of people who have -- it don't look like they have anything to be thankful for at this point. >> it's a real sobering weekend. yesterday we had the opportunity to provide a thanksgiving meal at our distribution center and we were able to sit down and hear the stories. and it is a huge opportunity when someone comes in and all they need is shoes, they're able to sit down, get a hot meal, be in a warm room and just to be near people to provide that community, to be that guest during this holiday season. we'll need to do that now more than ever. you need to be that hope.
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>> rick: i didn't want to say they don't have anything to be thankful for. they have their lives and people like you who are there to help out along with all these other amazing volunteers. bust the forecast there is bleak in all directions. not just the weather but the fact that they've lost so much and have so much recovery ahead. so in this time of giving, what can people do to help? >> people can partner in being that hope by giving to the salvation army's effort at www.salvation army.org or call where they can be that light and that emotional and spiritual care, that physical assistance moment that brings that hope in cold, muddy weather. >> rick: lieutenant, with the salvation army, we appreciate your time and efforts in california. thank you. >> julie: house republicans issuing subpoenas for james comey and loretta lynch before
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>> rick: fox news alert on the death of an american missionary on a remote indian island. arrows killed chau last week when he illegally set foot on north sentinel island after paddling on a kayak. a reclusive tribe on the island appears to have killed this 27-year-old. laws ban outsiders from getting within nautical miles of the island because the tribe, one of the world's most isolated, has a history of forcefully repelling outsiders and the law protects the isolated tribe from visitors. >> julie: this morning house
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republicans hitting former f.b.i. director james comey and former attorney general loretta lynch with subpoenas seeking testimony on the 2016 election before democrats take control of the house in january. let's bring in pennsylvania matt cartwright. he is a member of the house oversight committee. what do you make of the gop subpoenas of james comey and loretta lynch? >> first happy thanksgiving, julie. i hope you are replete with turkey and stuffing and we sure are all here in northeastern pennsylvania. it's 19° here in pennsylvania and we're bundling up warm and looking forward to opening day of buck season on monday. >> julie: what do you make of the subpoena of lynch and comey? >> well look, overall it is a basic function of the congress
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to perform oversight of the administration whether they're democrats in charge of congress or republicans in the white house. it doesn't matter. it is part of the constitutional responsibilities of congress to serve as a check and balance on whatever is going on in the executive branch, whoever is doing it and whatever party they're in. so there is no way that i would say that it's improper for oversight to occur. now what goes on in those hearings does matter. and i know that i think james comey has been asking for an open hearing as opposed to a closed-door hearing and i generally favor those as well. >> julie: first of all, an open hearing is not happening. but as far as the oversight committee going forward and doing an investigation, there is also the comparison now that the democrats are loving to pin between ivanka trump and hillary clinton and there are
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so many differences between these two. investigations should be had so it's all out in the open. tell us more about the investigation that you believe should happen behind ivanka trump and whether you believe there is a similar crime committed here between hillary and ivanka. do you think the two are similar? >> well, you are assuming that hillary committed a crime and that is not at all established. in fact, you may remember i was on the oversight committee when james comey was questioned and one of the key questions was did she really -- any of the emails that she was working with were they properly labeled classified and they were not? it was my questioning that established that. so it could well be that neither of them are in trouble for anything. but i don't oppose people looking into these things at all because the more facts come out, the more truth is out. truth is the daughter of time and we have to let it come out. >> julie: right, i know.
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also transparency and truth should be at least among government officials trusted. and hillary clinton's emails there were 33 thousand of people but the private server was the main issue and one of the big differences and the blackberry smashed and the 33,000 emails deleted in the basement and destroyed classified information. hillary clinton had a private server, gmail or something of that nature which ivanka trump used not necessarily the same thing. i want to call for congressman jim himes earlier in our program talking about the comparison between ivanka and hillary's emails at get your reaction. >> i think her use of a private server just as it was wrong for the president's daughter to do it. you had senior government officials going against protocol and who knows whether
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those were retained or not? maybe if there is an investigation into ivanka's use of emails we'll behavior was as similar as it looked. >> julie: if you have to turn over the evidence, ivanka's got the evidence. the emails are still there. hillary clinton doesn't because the evidence was destroyed. do you see a problem there? >> oh, i've heard that distinction made. it may very well be a valid distinction. we're all -- all the talking heads are on tv immediately commenting on which way the evidence cuts well before we've got into any hearings, any testimony, any examination of documents. i think this is all really premature and i will say this, julie, it is typical of what's wrong with washington we should be focusing on the things that matter to the american people. things like building american infrastructure. we have crumbling roads and bridges that aren't being fixed while people argue over where
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somebody is keeping their emails. i don't think that what americans are focused on. we want to bring down the cost of prescription medications. that's not touched while people argue over emails. we want to do things like improving healthcare for everybody. our going over where people kept emails keep us from focusing on what's important to the american people. >> julie: it is important but a lot of other issues as well. i want to get to nancy pelosi. a shoe-in for house speaker. i want to read "l. a. times" op-ed and get your reaction here. the headline too good to overthrow. nancy pelosi is the democrat's best choice of house speaker. thwarted ambition is house grumbling about nancy pelosi. they have been in power for a long time. many younger members have been eager to move up in the ranks but found no room at the top. what's the democrats' plan when it comes to whoever becomes
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house speaker? most likely nancy pelosi and how this runs them up to the election and is there concern mostly in battleground states and having nancy pelosi as the house speaker, does that help or hurt democrats when it comes to the presidential election? right around the corner. >> i think the concern is that we follow through on our promises. the things that i just talked to you. infrastructure, prescription medications, healthcare. these things only get better if congress works right. if congress actually goes through the mechanisms of passing legislation. and that has not been happening. i've been in congress for six years and we've seen an ineffective congress. it is because we've had a lack of ability to hold caucuses together and to move legislation forward. i mean, we saw that in 2017 with the complete inability to do anything with healthcare. and it was because you didn't have the kind of leadership to hold caucuses together and gather the votes necessary to
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move legislation for the american people. that's what i'm looking for in leadership and i think that is where we're going. >> julie: the leadership hasn't been there. when democrats take leadership of the house in january what are they going to do about healthcare? make it affordable? obamacare, you have know, was supposed to be repealed and replaced according to the promises made by republicans and they dropped the ball there. what are democrats going to do when you mention healthcare to make it affordable? people can't afford healthcare, the bottom line thanks to obamacare. >> my own view is we have to continue preservation of protections for people with pre-existing conditions. they are at risk of being thrown off their health insurance if we keep going down the path we've been following. democrats will put a stop to that. they will protect people with pre-existing conditions. we'll be looking for ways to expand coverage and bring down costs including the cost of
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prescription medications. >> julie: thank you very much, congressman. happy thanksgiving to you. >> same to you, julie. >> rick: did you ever hear of every player on both teams getting penallized in a football game? the egg bowl rivalry game last night. ole miss appears to get a touchdown. the punching and scuffleling in the end zone. both benches emptied onto the field. it was quite a scene down there. there is a punch. here is the ref trying to make sense of all this mess. >> after the play, unsportsmanlike conduct on all players from both teams. unsportsmanlike conduct. a personal foul on number 2 and
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number 3, they're disqualified. number 38 is disqualified. >> offsetting penalties. the play didn't count after all that and mississippi state won the game 35-3. the rebels lost big and -- >> julie: did you watch the games >> rick: i watched the nfl. i didn't watch it but i regret it. it was wild. >> julie: i just think the sportsmanship is the part that irritates me. not a huge fastball fan. i know nothing about sports. when i see that stuff it just -- >> rick: one of those penalties. if you get two of them you get thrown out. some did. all the other guys got the penalty. any one of them does anything else they get tossed. >> julie: they should if they act like that on the field. all right. hiker has a lot to be thankful for this morning after he survived being stuck between
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>> julie: a hiker is feeling thankful for his rescuers after getting stuck between two boulders. it happened near phoenix yesterday. 50-year-old was hiking with his family on a trail called fat man's pass when he slipped into a crevice. his family called rescue crews who got there in about an hour. >> him being wedged in between the two large boulders was a challenge. they were able to get him out with hands and force. >> they told me i was probably the only person whoever got wedged in the pass. i'm not that big. >> julie: the hiker was unhurt and able to walk on his own and able to walk on his own after the rescue. wow. >> rick: democrats are gearing
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up for 2020 and it could be the most crowded democratic primary in history. take a look at this field of potential white house candidates. more than two dozen of them. let's bring in our political panel. beverly halberg is host of the filler words prod cost and robin biro. who stands out? >> joe biden at the top of the list should he decide to run. he said he won't make that decision until the end of the year. the next polling favorite is bernie sanders. i have learned not to underestimate him. then it goes down from there with elizabeth warren, cory booker, kamala harris. >> rick: do you agree are those two the frontrunners this early on? >> frontrunners bust you talk about two individuals that i think not only have great name notoriety but are likable even
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among young people, which is surprising considering their age. but joe biden i think is someone who wanted to get in in 2016 but due to the tragic death of his son decided not to at that point. interesting to see what would have happened if he did. the name we keep hearing is beto o'rourke. he lost a race but he gained national attention. i think added to the fact he is very good at communication, would serve him well. people have said he is similar to barack obama in being charismatic and i think he is someone more mainstream democrat when it comes to his ideology. not leaning socialist. when it comes to the average person they don't want socialist policies they want policies to continue to see the economy grow. >> rick: it's very speculative. most of these people haven't declared yet. robin, is there an advantage to declaring early?
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>> no. that's typically not advised. hillary clinton didn't declare until april and then bernie sanders followed shortly thereafter. i think joe biden might have an advantage if he does declare at least, like i said, before the end of the year. because it will be a crowded field. as you know, the loudest voice rises to the top as we saw with donald trump in 2016. >> rick: it's also not easy to unseat an incumbent like president trump. biggest challenge for this field of contenders? >> i know the person who president trump wants the most is elizabeth warren. he said she would be easy to defeat. we'll see if she decides to throw her hat in the race after what the public perceived as an ill strategy to talk about her dna results. tom steyer is someone who has thrown his hat in the race and having a town hall next week. it will be the battle of the
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billionaires, these are two individuals who have far less policies in environmental issues. the american people don't want that when there has been job growth under the trump administration. >> rick: the "washington post" argues a progressive candidate may not be the right way to go with a pretty clever headline, a pile-up in the left lane in 2020. he writes moderate democrats loong at the 2018 results where democrats gained ground in the suburbs and won back states critical to earning a majority are nervous the party will fail to learn the biggest lesson of 2018. exciting progressives came close. moderates won including the state of texas. robin. >> yes, and veterans. so there is a lesson to be learned from the mid-terms. moderates and veterans polled well and did great in the mid-terms. we don't have a lot of veterans in the pipeline for 2020. but this was not great news for
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progressives like elizabeth warren, kamala harris and maybe bernie sanders to a degree. i think you're right. we'll see more of the moderates and veterans. >> rick: a lot to look forward to and have plenty of time to do it. have a great weekend. >> julie: super bowl of shopping is here and stores are working harder than ever to compete with online retailers for your money. what they're doing this black friday to get you next. i wanna keep doing what i love, that's the retirement plan. with my annuity, i know there is a guarantee. it's for my family, its for my self, its for my future. annuities can provide protected income for life. learn more at retire your risk dot org. the pressure cooker that crisps. it's the best of pressure cooking and air frying all in one. with tendercrisp technology, food will be juicy on the inside, crispy on the outside. (upbeat drumming) the ninja foodi, the pressure cooker that crisps. to learn about their medicare options
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>> julie: and they're off. the holiday shopping frenzy has officially begun. five-day blitz starts on thanksgiving crossing the finish line on cyber monday and with the economy booming, stores are eyeing bigger sales than last year. according to the national retail federation it is expected that shoppers will spend $717 billion to $721 billion. an uptick of 4.3%. 4.8% over 2017. carley shimkus joins me now. it is no surprise people are spending money on themselves and their loved ones. this year will be a big one. >> you're right.
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717 billion is the low estimate. i feel like black friday is something you either love or hate. and i was at the big macy's in new york city earlier today. i saw a lot of customers -- >> julie: why? >> it was for work but a very interesting experience. it was 7:00 in the morning. there were already a flow of customers shopping and the store had been open since 5:00 yesterday. that's good news. >> julie: it was open overnight? >> good news. the gap is considering closing hundreds of stores. black friday is really important this year and you're right about the economy. shoppers are going to be spending more this year. >> julie: you want to support the brick and mortar stores. a lot of family-owned small businesses out there that need black friday. i don't want to slam black friday, i just personally dread
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the idea of rushing into a mall the day after thanksgiving. i'm not sure there is anything i would prefer to do less. >> i know you well enough you aren't a black friday shopper. >> julie: cyber monday is a different story. >> most people said they shop on black friday because of the experience. they like the crowds. they like the adrenalin. >> julie: i don't get that. >> it is something they either do every year or it is a bucket list item and they want to do it this year. >> julie: black friday you go to the stores, cyber monday you get the good deals. cyber monday starts on friday. there are a lot of deals that came out on wednesday. >> i feel like it's a good thing for businesses now. amazon is the biggest >> i want to marry amazon. >> it's a great thing. businesses are making shopping in stores more convenient. wal-mart has a mobile app with a map of the store in the app so you can easily look for
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items. and so they're trying to make it more like shopping online in the store. >> julie: i want to get to -- let's pretend your oprah winfrey. let's come out with some top things. for you personally. >> hair, makeup, clothes. >> julie: how about the general public? what are people buying? >> electronics. black friday is always big for electronics. if you're looking for a tv or laptop. now is the time to buy it. >> julie: the national retail federation has a list. they aren't oprah but have a list of top toys. if you're a parent you love this. you go there and see what the hottest things are if you don't get hit up by the commercials girls, barbies, nothing surprising, dolls. lol surprise doll. they're a huge hit and all over amazon. >> i know american girl dolls when i was a kid were really expensive and i think they still are. if there are deals on those types of things now is the time to get them.
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a lot of people shop on black friday for themselves as well. a good time to get something for yourself if you need to spruce your wardrobe up. >> julie: thank you very much. hair and makeup. you don't need help in that department. great to see you. all right, rick. >> rick: great job. map of wal-mart, huh? amazing. >> julie: a blueprint. >> rick: president trump says he may shut down the border as more migrants arrive seeking asylum. will it shut down the government as well? the president defending his war of words with the supreme court's chief justice. reaction from capitol hill straight ahead. ♪ the united states postal service makes more holiday deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country.
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live from the pentagon on this. >> the deployment of 5900 u.s. troops to the border has led to a lot of lawyers going back and forth at the pentagon to determine exactly what those u.s. troops are allowed to do. senior military leaders visited troops at the border yesterday for thanksgiving. most of those unarmed troops have been simply laying down wire at the border and that job is almost complete. about 400 mps have been shifted from texas to california to protect the border patrol facing the possible arrival of more migrants. defense secretary mattis, who visited the border recently with the dhs secretary has made clear the troops are not expected to have contact with any migrants. they're there for backup and do not even have weapons. that is according to mattis and according to the law. in an an usual memo from the white house john kelly signed and order giving additional authorities to the pentagon to provide protection to the border patrol and local law
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enforcement if needed. the memo authorizes, quote, a show or use of force including lethal force where necessary, crowd control, temporary detention and curse re search. the deployed military personnel shall not without further direction from you conduct traditional civilian law enforcement activities such as arrest, search and seizure in connection with the enforcement of the laws. that's the point that mattis took great lengths to explain to reporters at the pentagon on wednesday. if u.s. troops had to intervene to help an armed border patrol agent who was overwhelmed by a surging crowd the troops would help but hand over the detainee to local police in a matter of minutes. the one point i want to make again we aren't doing law enforcement. we don't have arrest authority. mattis scoffed at reporters who asked how the u.s. military would prevent a repeat of a may 1997 incident when u.s. marines
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on the border mistakenly shot and killed a teenager? mattis said they aren't even carrying guns. the cost for the deployment $72 million for 5900 american troops to mostly lay down wire. >> rick: jennifer, thank you. >> julie: president trump also says he wants immigrants to come into the country but that it has to be by the book. listen. psh psh >> president trump: we need workers but they have to come in legally. we want them to come in. people that want to work and want to do a great job for our country. they come in through a merit system. they have to come in. under the democrats they don't have a merit system. they want open borders and people can just flow in. >> julie: let's bring gop financeier and contributor to the hill and richard goodstein and former clinton advisor. happy thanksgiving to you the day after. richard, what do you make of the president's comments when he says he supports immigrants coming here, he just supports
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them if they get in the legal way? >> he better support them. that's who is staffing mar-a-lago. look, as regards to this whole notion of using lethal force, coming into the united states of america is not a capital crime. what donald trump is trying to do is keep his base involved, keep people scared as your own shep submit said, there is no invasion, nobody has anything to worry about. but donald trump wants you to think differently. look, remember his signature promise was to build the wall and have mexico pay for it. we now know mexico is not paying for it. he did a nafta deal where it didn't come up. now it looks like he may be willing to shut down the whole federal government to get a border wall funded that even most republicans don't think is sensible. so i just think he is trying to engage in scare tactics. the caravan and immigrants today. terrorists tomorrow and we'll see this for the next two years. as we saw when the democrats
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won 40 seats this time i don't think it will work. >> julie: okay, he mentions scare tactics but there has to be some kind of precedent set or some sort of deterrent. we can't just open our borders and let floodgates of illegal migrants come in at what point do you put the stop on that? the overpopulation issue allot and the humanitarian issue and the burden it causes our economy, the list goes on and on. the president has authorized, dan, border troops to use lethal force if they have to to stop migrants from entering the country. what does he mean by that? >> well, i think one of the fundamental obligations of the sovereign government of the united states is to protect its borders. it starts in the constitution. the president is merely fulfilling the duties and obligations of the chief executive. i think that richard and the
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establishment of the democratic party and some in the republican party are behind and lagging the broad consensus already developed amongst the american people. over 80% of the american people believe in legal immigration. but at the same time do not believe in illegal immigration. so it really is not controversial out in the country. it is just hard for the establishment to act. >> julie: okay. richard, what do the democrats want to do when it comes to the border crisis? if it doesn't happen comes january, border wall funding which realistically i doubt it. i mean do democrats want to open the borders or do they want control? how do you control it? >> you and everybody else who talks about open borders noefs that's just talk. the democratic policy was embedded in a bill that passed the senate in 2013 with 68 votes, including noted liberals like orrin hatch and marco
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rubio and lindsey graham that called for yes, border security and a path to citizenship and legalization and making sure employers didn't willy-nilly hire illegal immigrants. this was passed by 68 votes in the senate and would have passed the house had the speaker brought it up, which he didn't because the republicans controlled -- even though almost every democrat and a lot of republicans would have voted for it. it's not complicated and it is not open borders. it is shameful when people who aren't partisans say that because it's just not true. >> julie: okay. but nonetheless, if you don't block the border, which again i don't believe the supreme court -- >> you don't shoot them when they come across the border. that's not right. >> julie: the question. they aren't armed, are they, dan? >> no. the whole rhetoric around this, richard, is so inappropriate. basically we have a set of laws. we have a sovereign border.
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we have the means to protect the border. and you believe it's more important to have a porous border. i have think that that's a gross mismanagement of the federal government. it's inappropriate and the american people are sick and tired of the divisive rhetoric around this issue. >> julie: these troops are acting as backup to law enforcement. most are not armed. >> right. >> julie: that's all the time we have. >> i think -- all right. >> julie: i'm sorry, i'm getting a wrap here. i appreciate you coming in and talking about this. >> thank you. >> rick: fox news alert on the wildfires in california with rain bringing some relief for firefighters putting out the remaining flames but fear it could bring new challenges for first responders and rescue workers. jeff paul joins us from paradise, california, a town wiped out by that camp fire. jeff, the search crews are out there again today?
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>> they're back out here and the weather is even worse than it was for the last few days. a lot of rain. the gusts are very strong and we're hearing just in a day's time that death toll is going up now 84 people killed in this fire. we're also learning that hundreds are still considered unaccounted for. that number is fluctuating constantly. within the last 24 hours or so it dropped down from 870 all the way down to 563. search and recovery crews are hoping to get the number further and further down. the conditions out here are terrible. so far we should report that we haven't heard of any reports of any sort of mudslides or huge areas of trees falling down or any sort of flash flooding. the weather has definitely changed. it was much lighter in the past few days. the rain and the winds are starting to pick up. >> rick: is there any way of knowing how many of the hundreds who are said to be missing might actually be in that aftermath?
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>> there is no really way to tell that unless they start sifting through. the numbers are fluctuateing. one of the things they told us is sometimes people don't know they're on the list. they got out of this area as the fire was going on and they got out of town. communications aren't that great and one of the other things, too, they're finding is some of the names on the list are duplicates or misspelled. it's a tedious process of checking the names off the list. >> rick: any word when residents can get back into their homes? >> there is more conversations about allowing people at least to come back into the area. they want to make sure it's safe before they do so. when people do that, they will find what you see behind me, homes burned right to the ground. some of the survivors that we spoke with say they are just thankful they made it out especially given the holidays and realizing there are so many other people out there right
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now who have lost so much more than them. take a listen. >> i'm thankful and grateful to have my family. that's not the same for a lot of people. at one point you start thinking about okay, am i going to die or is my family going to die? >> it's amazing what people can do. the community and all the devastation. i keep seeing it everywhere but it really is butte strong. we're thankful. >> authorities tell us more than 13,000 homes were destroyed in this fire alone. you have to imagine all the people who lived in the homes now are displaced and living in shelters and hopping from hotel to hotel and the gusts out here, the winds are starting to pick up and further complicate the search and recovery efforts to give some of those folks the closure they need. >> rick: the rain continuing to fall making a mess of stuff, too. thank you for your reporting.
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>> julie: house republicans want answers issuing subpoenas to loretta lynch and james comey. we'll be asking republican congressman sean duffy coming up next. fellow republican bob goodlatte. >> it is simply not appropriate for mr. comey to attempt to turn this into some kind of a public performance on his part. maybe to sell more books, i'm not sure what exactly his motivation is. welcome to the place where people go to learn about
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>> julie: following a thanksgiving without romaine lettuce the federal government is trying to track down -- it looks like it came from lettuce grown in california. the agency won't know for sure until next week. so far at least 32 people have gotten sick and 13 hospital liesed. >> rick: subpoenas to jim comey and loretta lynch. here is democratic congressman and intelligence committee member jim himes. >> i welcome the testimony of jim comey and the former attorney general. every time these individuals have the opportunity to speak
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in public the truth comes out. and truth is not the friend of those republicans like devin nunes and bob goodlatte who are desperate, desperate to get back to the topic of hillary clinton and her emails. all of these allegations are completely made up. >> rick: let's bring in wisconsin congressman sean duffy for his take on all this. a lot of people might have thought we heard the last of the hillary clinton email situation. >> jim himes is a good guy and we serve together. he is wrong in the sense republicans want to get to the truth of was there partisanship and politics inside the d.o.j. and f.b.i. as our majority runs to a close january 3 democrats take control. they aren't looking for the truth. they'll shut down this investigation. the reason hillary clinton is still important is because she is the one that funded the dirty dossier, right? the dossier that started the investigation on donald trump, right? and clinton went through fusion
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gps and had russian sources to build the fake dossier to start the mueller investigation on donald trump. this is all tied together. we just want -- where did it come from? was there a political motive or a truth seeking motive inside the d.o.j. and f.b.i.? >> rick: the theer eave is that these two people were biased toward the clintons and against the president. >> the reason we know that when you look at some of the correspondence inside the f.b.i. and d.o.j. it was clearly political and partisan. there was a great hate. the leadership level. not the boots on the ground but the leadership had a great disdain for donald trump and his supporters. they seemed to favor hillary clinton. all at the time the f.b.i. was supposed to be investigating hillary clinton. recall she deleted 33,000 emails, took a sledgehammer to her cell phone and so that investigation is going on. they're rooting for hillary in opposition to donald which was
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troubling. >> rick: himes said we've had an investigation and heard the truth. you are saying we haven't. >> not inside the d.o.j. and f.b.i. trey gowdy said we have reams of questions that we want to ask and one of the problems we're having in regard to james comey and loretta lynch testifying is they want to do it in public. when you do it in public when you watch the hearings republicans get five minutes and democrats get five minutes and you switch back and forth and it is really easy to eat up a member of congressman's time. let me give you the context of your question. >> rick: very practiced at this, jim comey. >> he is a smart guy. you can never get the questions answered. if you close the door and get behind in a private area you can spend 30 minutes on each side and drill in and get answers to the questions you have. so the truth comes out. if the f.b.i. wasn't bias and did a great investigation we should know that and we'll leave it alone. we don't know yet. what the f.b.i. and d.o.j. and
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comey, link and others are trying to slow walk it to get it to the democratic majority and never be exposed for their partisanship. >> rick: the five minute rules are only for the public hearings? when you are behind closed doors you can ask as many questions as you want? >> each side gets a same amount of time but one member or one lawyer from the republican team can be up for as much as a half hour or hour at a time and the democrats can go for half an hour or an hour. the length of time doesn't allow the witness to dance and play. you actually drill in and get answers to the questions we have. >> rick: we want to give the other side one more opportunity to speak here. this is more from jim himes this morning on this program about what should come out of the hearings in his opinion. >> at the end of the day the important thing is that the american public regain confidence in the f.b.i., in the c.i.a. for example once again the president of the united states is saying that all the good work done by the
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>> rick: people in the northeast waking up to temperatures in the teens. time square now it's a balmy 26°. a storm is spreading across the country that could bring a quick shot of ice to the eastern u.s. this weekend bringing a risk of slippery roads from virginia to pennsylvania. florida's east coast could see flooding. anyone flying out of charlotte tonight should expect delays. >> president trump: do people really want me to give up hundreds of thousands of jobs? if we went by this standard we wouldn't be able to have anybody as an ally. look at what happens all over the world. >> julie: president trump commenting on saudi arabia and
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the c.i.a. findings that the crown prince ordered the murder of khashoggi. it is business as usual for the crown prince. he began his first trip abroad since facing international fallout over khashoggi's death. benjamin hall is live in london with the latest. any sense this story is going away? >> at this point no. there is a growing chorus of voices to see the c.i.a. report released so they could make up their minds if he was involved. as we heard from president trump yesterday in no uncertain terms national security, economy, jobs the most pressing issues moving forward. saudi arabia very keen to move forward on this. earlier as you pointed out we saw the crown prince taking his first foreign trip since khashoggi's murder. it is a sign he has the support of king salman and remains
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defacto leader of that country. he will round up his trip at the g20 summit in argentina where he is expected to meet president trump and president erdogan on turkey. the issue is not over and angry words from turkey earlier today as their foreign minister criticized president trump saying he appears he wants to turn a blind eye and how other responses were cosmetic. we're still hearing the story daily and still new information coming out. >> julie: has there been any new evidence in the investigation? >> ever since the beginning of this story over seven weeks ago the turkish media have controlled the story dripping out information constantly and they continue to do that. as a result we're getting new pieces of information from them and reports from the turkish media suggest now that the c.i.a. has a second recording of a phone call in which crown prince gives instructions to silence khashoggi as soon as possible.
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now when asked about it yesterday president trump said i don't want to talk about it. you'll have to ask them. there have been new repercussions, france imposing sanctions on 18 saudi nationals in connection with the case. the same individuals who were pictured entering turkey the morning khashoggi went missing and targeted by the u.s. and germany all linked to the murder. you have senators on one side, senator corker, lindsey graham, rand paul who want to see more action. others say the right outcome has been reached and we need to move forward. >> rick: nancy pelosi looking more likely to become the speaker of the house. why some opponents now say they have her vote. julie. >> julie: also acting attorney general matthew whitaker under a federal investigation over donations to a past campaign? >> whitaker is a highly
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>> julie: a fox news alert and president trump's acting attorney general matthew whitaker is facing a federal investigation. investigators are looking into his work under former attorney general jeff sessions. we're live in washington to explain this one for us. >> the department of justice declined to comment on this but the u.s. office of the special counsel tells fox news they're looking into acting attorney general matt whitaker and potential hatch act violations. they told fox news they received two complaints. one from a watchdog group and one from dr. sheldon white house from rhode island. at issue are campaign contributions. he ran for senate and whitaker for u.s. senate received four
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contributions in january and february of this year. at the time whitaker worked for the department of justice serving as chief of staff to attorney general jeff sessions. in his letter to osc senator white house notes whitaker's committee was dormant for the three years prior to his appointment to federal service. this is senator writes raises concerns donations were solicited or intent to influence an official act. the hatch act puts limits on political activities workers can engage in. the office of the special counsel is an independent federal and prosecutorial agency. it is not -- this is the key here, the same thing as the special counsel team we all know so well run by robert mueller. >> julie: thank you for clarifying. it gets confusing. >> a lot of special counsels. >> julie: thank you. >> rick: nancy pelosi appears to be gaining momentum in her push to reclaim the speaker's
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gavel. minority leader winning over several high-profile opponents heading into next week's closed door vote. peter doocy has more. >> the democrats are getting ready to have their leadership elections last week. it will put somebody in a very good position for the speaker's vote when democrats officially take over in the new year. nancy pelosi says she thinks she is the best person and now the only democrat running. a group of 16 dissenting democrats, which initially had enough support to block her, is starting to lose its nerve now that nancy pelosi came calling with desirable committee assignments for the next congress. she got congressman brian higgins to take his name off a letter calling for new leadership by pledging to bring up a bill that makes medicare available at age 50. she got congresswoman marcia fudge to back off by making her chair of a subcommittee on
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elections and the endorsement of ocasio-cortez by default because she -- president obama's chief of staff at the time now says nancy pelosi is as tough and cagey as mcconnell is ruthless and trump is unprincipled. it is time for a speaker that can go toe-to-toe with both of them in support of democratic values. rookies need not apply. let's keep our eye on the prize. pelosi has powerful allies and the math appears favorable for a return to the speaker's lobby not just because democrats are rallying around her. remember, president trump says he wants her to be the democratic speaker, too and might ask a few republicans to vote to make sure it happens. >> rick: interesting. peter doocy in washington thank you. >> julie: let's bring in a congressional reporter for the
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hill for more about this. some lingering resistance despite it all of that group of democrats that didn't want to see nancy pelosi regain speakership. the odds are pointing to nancy pelosi becoming the next speaker. what will she be able to accomplish come january? >> that's a great question. first of all she will have to make the decision legislate or resist. she will feel immense pressure from the liberal base to go after president trump through impeachment, investigations and subpoenas. she also knows in order to keep the majority in 2020 she has to show democrats can legislate and get things done. it will be very difficult to get bipartisan things done when they are investigating the president, democrats will be very reluctant to hand over a victory to trump. there are a few issues that could get done. infrastructure is ?umber one. president trump talking about it on the campaign trail and yet to fulfill it but long thought to be an area of bipartisanship in washington number two is lowering
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prescription drug prices. another thing trump talked about the campaign trail and democrats have an interest in doing that as well. we could see movement. >> julie: the democrats have been loving pointing the finger at the republicans for getting nothing done and so more pressure on them in january. if they don't get anything done in the next two years that will hurt them greatly especially in battleground states. moving forward to the momentum behind nancy pelosi's bid to regain the speaker's gavel grew stronger on wednesday as one of her chief detractors shifted gears to announce support for the long-time democratic leader. why the change of heart for democratic congressman brian higgins? >> the opposition is melting faster than the ice cream on my apple pie last night. >> julie: i forgot about that. i knew i forgot something. >> that's key. you can't forget.
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pelosi knows what she is doing here. she has been picking off detractors one-by-one. started with marcia fudge to put her in charge of a committee and brian higgins signed a public letter saying he would oppose pelosi under any circumstance. she gave him promising she would let him be in charge of a bill to expand medicare. >> julie: he released a statement saying he took a principled stand on issues of vital importance. that's a quote. i wonder how much of a principled stance he would have taken if they actually had the votes to take pelosi out of that seat? i believe what basically came down to was push comes to shove and they knew they weren't shoving her out. if you can't beat her, join her. >> i think that's exactly right. they're looking at the situation and see the writing on the wall and thinking what can i get out of this deal?
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not just brian higgins but i'm sure we'll see many more reversing their opposition and getting what they can. >> julie: marcia fudge's backing down is an interesting one. between higgins and fudge. they clearly mark a fierce blow to the small but determined group of rebellious democrats that scrambled to block pelosi's path to the speakership. it initially had 17 signatures. fudge removed her name on monday putting the number at 16 including higgins. what do you make of the deal struck between pelosi for judge to back off in exchange pelosi would make her a chair on a subcommittee on elections? >> fudge was considering running against pelosi. she was potentially a bigger threat than any of the other detractors because their biggest flaw is they don't have a challenger to pelosi. fudge and the congressional
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black caucus this election subcommittee has been a top priority with them. she met with pelosi on friday and it was discussed in that meeting. no coincidence a few days later not only was she not going to run anymore but backing pelosi for speaker in exchange for getting the subcommittee. there are all sorts of tools at pelosi's disposals. carrots or stick and deny people subcommittee gafsh -- gavels if they don't fall in line. she is starting with the honey approach. i wouldn't be surprised if we see the stick approach come into light. >> julie: nice to have power, isn't it? thanks. >> rick: president trump firing back at supreme court chief justice john roberts after a court ruling on migrants at the mexico border. plus julie says -- >> julie: hundreds are still missing from the california wildfire and there are concerns about landslides due to the rain. california congressman john garamendi will discuss those topics next.
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>> julie: thanksgiving day tragedy in alabama. a 12-year-old girl was also struck in the crossfire. the suspect tried to get away but was shot and killed by police. this is the river chase galleria outside birmingham. both of the injured are expected to survive. >> rick: president trump doubling down on his dust-up with supreme court chief justice john roberts. it started after trump criticized a judge for striking down a policy of asylum seekers and roberts wrote we don't have obama or trump judges, bush or clinton judges. we have an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal rights to those appearing before them. the president responding once again yesterday. >> president trump: i like him and i respect him but i think we have to use some common
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sense. ninth circuit everybody knows it's totally out of control. what they're doing and saying, the opinions are very unfair to law enforcement, very unfair to our military. and they're very unfair most importantly to the people of our kun -- country. ifm owe keeping them safe. >> rick: let's bring in congressman garamendi. the statement from justice roberts seems unusual and some would argue it ignores the reality judges are appointed by presidents who are presumably picking them based on their past record and ideology being in line with the president. >> well, it's very clear that the chief justice is very tired of the president trashing the judiciary. he is standing up for the judiciary, as i believe he should. and telling the president that hey, mr. president, we're an independent branch of the government. we have equal power to you. we are the ones that see if your actions and the laws and
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the regulations are properly company insideing with the constitution. that's the role. so yes, he is pushing back and the president is getting in the wrong fight here. he should not be getting in a fight with the judiciary at this time. >> rick: would it be naive to suggest these justices don't have their own agends and leanings? >> of course they do. but in balance they're very well positioned to deal with the questions that come before them. i found myself over the years in very strong disagreement with the decisions that they have made. that's the way it is. but ultimately they do make the decision and yes, they come at it from left, right, center or in some cases down the middle. >> rick: do you have any concerns about what the president might try to do about this issue? >> no, i don't. other presidents have railed
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against the decisions of the courts. the courts shrug their shoulders and go about it. as i just said i found some of their decisions in the past to be, well, i would disagree with it. but ultimately they are going to stand their ground and they are going to say it's our decision, we stand by our decision. the problem here is for the president he ought not -- i don't think it's wise. who am i to tell him what to do but seems unwise to get in a fight with the supreme court at a moment when many of the important things at least in his mind are going to wind up before the supreme court, not the least of which is the whitaker case. that's most definitely going to be there. the cases of asylum seekers, all of those things are going to go ultimately to the supreme court. the president wants to get in a fight at this moment, that's his decision. frankly i think it's not a good thing to do. >> rick: i know that the devastating wildfires are close to your heart since that's part
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of your district and there are 500 plus people still missing after those fires. can you give us any sense of what is happening on the ground there and how devastating the impact is on this region? >> well, i think all of us have seen the devastation of the paradise community. it is essentially gone. 13,000 homes destroyed. that means those families have no place to go. we have an enormous task ahead. the recovery will take time, a lot of money and in the process we're going to find even more tragic results i'm quite sure of that. we also know that the danger continues. possible mudslides but many of these power poles and trees remain a very serious hazard immediately and in the years ahead as the trees begin to die, rot and present potential hazard of falling on people,
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cars and others as they attempt to rebuild. it's all out there. we'll need the help of the federal government here in order to fully recover not just from this fire but from the fires in southern california, the mudslides in santa barbara last year and rebuilding paradise and chico where 1,000 homes were lost. we'll go back into the special session -- into the lame duck session and put together a piece of legislation, myself and my colleague from the north, to try to get the federal government appropriation that is going to be necessary to rebuild all california and additional needs in the areas devastated by the hurricanes earlier in the year. we have some work to do in congress to provide the necessary support. >> rick: so many thousands of people now homeless. >> exactly. >> rick: best of luck to you and the folks in your district. thank you for being with us
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hoping to score that bargain basement deal. hillary vaughn is live from the roosevelt field mall in garden city, new york. santa has arrived. >> santa is here. there will be 116 million shoppers around the country cashing in on these sales today and one of those very special shoppers is santa himself. santa, while you're hear today greeting kids will you pick up anything for mrs. claus? >> i always shop on black friday for mrs. claus. i get good deals at the jewelry stores. >> she is a lucky lady. we've seen a lot of millennials and groups of high schoolers making this is first year they get in on the black friday tradition. >> i get great deals on black friday and i love shopping. and this mall is the best to do that. >> it's a fun friends get together? >> definitely. a tradition of ours to go every year and we get great deals. this year was a pretty good
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turnout because they opened it at two different times. i don't know if they usually do. this year was a good turnout. >> people are expected to spend over 1,000 a person this year in total. up 4% from what shoppers spent last year. >> julie: amazing how santa travels so fast. just here in the thanksgiving parade yesterday and now at the mall in roosevelt field. black friday is big for retail. now some online stores are setting up shop, too, right? >> yes, this is what's interesting. the shop behind me is an online only retailer actually testing out if they want to open a store front. the mall here tells me they do this with a lot of online retailers. have people come in and see how much foot traffic they can get and if they're successful they decide to open up and lease a space in the mall. we're seeing online stores test the water to decide if they want to go brick and mortar. >> julie: tell santa rick has been a very good boy this year.
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>> julie: it was a happy thanksgiving for some very good shelter dogs in california, the sacramento spca celebrating with special treats. these were peanut butter-stuffed kongs. the good stuff. don't give too much peanut butter to your dogs. the cats weren't left out, they got their own special treats, awls also. >> rick: i know that doug is wagging its tail but it doesn't look too happy for don like to me. he would be happier if they let him out of the cage. >> julie: he looks up in bruno. >> rick: he wants to run free, not sit in that cage. >> julie: so sweet.
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