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are fine, it is the government that is the problem. [laughs] >> dana: he gets hit! it. >> juan: the big news is the price per clinton. >> brian: absolutely. >> dana: never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is always up next. >> bret: thank you. four americans died in a terror attack in syria and at least one republican senator is blaming president trump and his withdrawal announcements. the speaker of the house asked the president to delay or cancel estate of the union address because of the partial shut down, we will talk you house majority leader. a new look at where american stand on abortion, i have this week's march for life. this is "special report." ♪ good evening and welcome to
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washington, i am bret baier. two military personnel and two civilian defense workers are dead tonight after what i says claims was a suicide attack in northern syria. the strike comes just days after the u.s. began the process of withdrawing its troops and equipment from syria. that fact led one senator to put some of the blame of today's events on the feet of the president and his syria policy. national security correspondent jennifer griffin leads us off tonight from the pentagon. good evening. >> delegation of republican senators from the armed services committee including john cornyn and marco rubio attended a meeting at the white house with the president late this afternoon. they discuss your policy in the wake of the attack. rand paul says he pushed the president to declare victory and bring u.s. troops home. >> as people walked across the street in northern syria, an explosion suddenly ripped through the restaurant where u.s. special forces had gone for a meeting. among the dead in dead anybody
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aftermath, two american soldiers and two american civilians who were inside at the time of the blast. three other u.s. troops were routed. just hours after isis claims responsibility for the attack, vice president mike pence spoke at the state department praising the president's decision to withdraw. >> thanks to the leadership of this commander-in-chief and courage and sacrifice of our armed forces, we are now actually able to begin to hand out the fight our coalition partners and we are bringing our troops home. the caliphate has crumpled and isis has been defeated. >> the attack took place where kurdish forces captured from isis in 2016, turkey's president has objected to kurtz holding the city and invest both the kurds in u.s. forces to leave. prompting president trump to call for a pullout of all 2,000 u.s. troops from syria. pentagon officials worry that u.s. troops would be a target
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following the president's surprise announcement in december. the decision led to the resignation of defense secretary jim mattis. president trumpet that repeatedly that he would not telegraph's military moves. >> i said it many times how counterproductive it is for the united states to announce an advance the dates we intend to begin or end military options. >> a replicant ally in the senate. that is exactly what the president's talk of withdrawing dead. >> my concern of the statements made by the president, enthusiasm by the enemy we are fighting, i saw this in iraq. i'm now seeing it in syria. >> and his first test of acting defense secretary, patrick shanahan issued his condolences but would not see how the attack would impact the withdrawal. >> allow me to extend on behalf the department of defense our thoughts and prayers to the
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families and team members of those killed and wounded during today's attack. >> a senior foreign diplomat tells fox this attack is a direct result of the announcement that the u.s. is pulling out of syria. u.s. allies are very concerned about the 800 isis fighters being held in a kurdish prison. if they are released they could flood western capitals and launch attacks. >> bret: a number of foreign fighters they are thank you. for the second day in a row president trump invited democrats to the white house to talk about the shut down and ways to resolve it, today some of them actually showed up. today house speaker nancy pelosi insisted that because of the security challenges during this partial shutdown, the president should postpone or cancel estate of the union address. chief white house correspondent john roberts tells us how that went over. >> not well, nancy pelosi's office tells fox news it was on
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the recommendation of a single reload employee, she asked the president to pull the plug on the state of the union address. republicans in congress say this is more about politics than it is protection. >> in a remarkable move nancy pelosi today sent a letter to president trump asking him to postpone this months state of the union address or deliver it writing. she's had no state of the union has ever been given during a government shutdown, she packed her request to security concern. in his letter nancy pelosi pointed out the secret service is in charge of security and the u.s. secret service and department of homeland security have not been funded for 26 days now, with critical departments
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hamstrung by furlough. hold onto the homeland security secretary today, kirstjen nielsen pleading "the department of homeland security and the u.s. secret service are fully prepared to support and secure the estate of the union." a secret service official tells fox news no one from nancy pelosi's office contacted them to ask about it. the secret service has been preparing for the event four months, this is a "no" fill mission. new york democratic congressman elliot engels seemed to suggest it was more about sending president trump a message than security. >> i don't think we can go along with business as usual. there has to be something to him to show the frustration of the congress. >> with all this whirling president trump tried to go around nancy pelosi nancy pelosi today invited to the white house members of the bipartisan problem solvers caucus to talk about border security. democratic members say they came to listen, but preemptively put out a statement saying the
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priority is to reopen government, discussions about border security can come later. >> there is bipartisan support right now for opening this government back up as quickly as possible and then having a sensible discussion about how we can preserve our national security, just before i said, uphold our values in the process. >> lindsey graham had another idea, and set of trying to pick out house democrats the president should talk to the senate. >> nancy pelosi, $1 for the wall, doesn't play well in the senate. trump says we are not going to talk until you come give me a deal is not playing well. the breakthrough to me would have a group of senators, republicans and democrats talking to the president about a pathway forward. >> lindsey graham together with chris have written a letter to
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president trump urging him to support a spending bill to allow governments to reopen which would then allow negotiations on border security to go forward. they did not yet have the support in the senate to sin that built the president. he has already rejected that idea. >> bret: john roberts on the north lawn, thank you. let's talk about the shut down the democratic party perspective, house majority leader joins us tonight. thank you for being here. >> think you a lot, good to be with you. >> bret: is a state at the union officially off? >> i don't think it is officially off. i have not seen the speakers letter, what you suggest is a real security problem unless we open up the government. we haven't gotten a reply from the president and his thoughts, does not officially off. >> bret: the homeland security secretary tweeted out that the department of homeland security and the secret service are fully prepared to support and secure
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the state of the union. we thank them for their mission focus and dedication and for all they do each day and secure her homeland. they suggest there is not an issue here. >> i have heard that. we will see with the president has to say. obviously the speaker is correct. this is very high security as you well know. you have all the supreme court in the cabinet and the vice president and the president, the speaker of the house and the majority leader of the united states senate. it is a very high security issue. the other thing from my perspective, we should not be doing business as usual with a government shutdown and 800,000 people were not getting paid including everyone in the secret service. it is tough to believe that they aren't as high security alert when they are concerned about whether they will get a paycheck
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and be able to pay their mortgage. from that standpoint, i think the speaker's point was well taken. we should open up this government and then concede with the business of the government while it is operating. >> bret: understanding your position, you think the president should open up the government now. what about the people who turn to you and speaker nancy pelosi and say, put something on the table. compromise with something so that the ball has moved on the field. >> we are prepared to do that. frankly, we have supported a lot of resources and expansion of the border security personnel, the border security technology, all sorts of things have been designed to make the border more secure. we are prepared to do so and we have said that at the white house. unfortunately the focus has been
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on one issue and that is made it very difficult to discuss. we don't think the wall works as you know, a lot of republicans don't think it will work as well. as you know the republicans didn't offer a bill on the floor until december 20th, almost before the year was over. we are prepared and want to see good, effective border security. we want to stop drugs and illegal contraband from coming into the country. >> bret: here's the speaker and the majority leader today. >> a well is in immorality, it is not who we are as a nation. it is a wall between reality and his constituents, his supporters. >> the speaker has recently defined a brand-new dogma for the democratic party. actually enforcing our immigration laws with the help
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of physical barriers is "in immorality" it seems like democrats are happy to take their cues from the lady from san francisco and her extreme position. >> bret: do you agree with that? >> i don't agree with that. i don't think this is an issue of morality, it is an issue up, does it work? other members of the united states and it put question whether a wall works, whether that is the best way to secure the border. are some restraints -- we have supported substantial restraints. we have supported other technologies. my own view is that this is not an issue of morality, a well is immoral if it tries to imprison people who should be in prison.
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>> bret: you have all kinds of democrats speaking out against the wall, that it will work the congressman who may be running for president, who knows. he said that the wall is a racist reaction, it does not reflect the realities of this country. do you think a wall or barrier is racist? >> i don't talk in those terms. that is not the way we ought to look at it. the reason i mentioned republican senators and house members in effect at the house didn't bring a bill to the floor until they were ten days left in the year is because an awful lot of people believed a wall in and of itself would not work. a wall is not the best place to spend money. >> bret: for the people who were living in those border states, especially with some barrier that has been constructed, would you remove some of barriers?
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>> noel. >> bret: so, they work there? >> you talk to the people along the rio grande, a lot of towns that have congress back and forth on a regular basis and have no problem, that is by he is not a huge advocate of the wall. you can ask him and retest quotes. i'm not saying he is not supporting the president's -- >> bret: so they work simply says? >> obviously they work in some places. we president wanted to first build a wall, 900 feet any change that very substantially. the debate ought to be not a morality or racism, with the rhetoric that has come about and dealing with those coming across the border and we think some of that rhetoric was in fact
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racist. we think some of that rhetoric was to inflame and was not based upon facts. having said that we are prepared to work with the president to make sure our borders are secure. that is the important point. >> bret: the last thing. why not give a lump of money -- whatever that amount is to the border patrol and say you do what you think is the best way to secure america. if it includes a wall or slacks or whatever you want to call it. why not do that? why is it not to compromise position? >> there can be a compromise position. i don't know whether the border patrol or the governors on the east border states -- there are all sorts of alternatives that we can pursue to come up with a consensus
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solution to achieve the objective. we all want that. >> bret: mr. leader, we appreciate your time. it is day two for the new essential american migrant caravan headed for the u.s. and the travelers are already encountering problems. steve harrigan's with a group and reports tonight from guatemala. >> the caravan ran into its first speed bump at guatemalan border. right police blocked what had been a rapid march north, hundreds without identification cards were turned away along with several thousand unaccompanied minors. criminal background checks europe led to a number of arrests >> a person who at a pending arrest warrant here in honduras was captured for the crime of rating a minor. >> after several hours of
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waiting, what remained of the caravan crossed its first border on the way to the u.s. most to watch the >> reporter: march young man to make men we don't have much. this man says he has zero money for what could be a month-long trip. we ask him how will you eat? >> i will just asked to make ask for help. there's nothing else we can do. >> others carry a much or your burden. this woman says she is walking to the u.s. with two children some of the age two. >> if we can make it there that is where we will go. wherever we find work, that is where we will stay. >> on the march and along the roadside, toddler's him wait patiently. protected for now but little more than their parents love. as you can see this is no easy hike, it is up and down mountain roads and there is no real sidewalk. big trucks come whipping around,
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but even before this caravan makes it to the u.s., two more are being organized right now in honduras. >> bret: thank you. up next, what british prime minister theresa may survived a no-confidence vote? we will have an answer coming out. first, here's what some of our affiliates are covering tonight. fox in the left to 11, the tear strike there. there will be information later today about when teachers will return to the bargaining table. they are pressing for higher pay and smaller class sizes. box five new york is covering the proposal for recreational marijuana new york. the measure will permit personal use as well as retail sales of the drug. the governor says marijuana taxes would raise an estimated $3 million a year. this is a lab look at miami from our affiliate, one of the big stories there, officials in key west are taking the initial
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♪ >> this is a fox news alert. law enforcement and georgia announced the arrest of a man accused of planning to attack federal buildings including the white house. investigator said the man was arrested following a tip from someone in that community, they say they had been watching him for a year. as we get more details we we wil bring them to you here. teresa's government has survived a no-confidence vote in parliament but she still has plenty of problems following yesterday's massive rejection of her plan for specifics on leaving the european union. greg palkot as he lay aside from london. >> another political nail-biter in london, theresa may narrowly surviving a no-confidence vote pressed by the opposition labor party. 325 members of parliament member supported her. this after a plan for britain to
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exit the european union where brexit got badly beaten yesterday. >> of the house has put their confidence in this government. i stand ready to work with any member of this house to deliver on brexit and ensure that this house retains the confidence of the british people. speak with she then met with parliament leaders tried to come up with a new plan for brexit which needs to be ready by next monday. jeremy corbin says he won't talk to her unless the threat of leaving the e.u. is taken off the table. >> the government must remove -- must remove once and for all the prospect of the catastrophe of a "no" deal brexit. >> officials also worn of a political and economic disruption of a "no" deal. suggested they might extend a looming march 29th deadline to get brexit done. when official events hang they will take the u.k. back if it
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manages to take a second controversial referendum on the european union. >> a second referendum is in the cards, but it is not inevitable. we still have other options. >> considering the huge challenges facing theresa may with big ramifications not just for britain come up for the allies like the u.s., today's show of confidence might be a mixed bag for the u.k. prime minister. >> bret: greg palkot in london, thank you. stocks were appear in the u.s. today, the dow gained 142, the s&p 500 finished a head six and the nasdaq climbed 11. moments ago the house at a motion to censure iowa republican congressman steve king over comments many considered racist including his colleagues. this action essentially kills that motion of censure, he rejects being labeled a white supremacist and in just the last hour, he told fox news he stands by his story on those comments.
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>> the record has led as a fact. >> bret: earlier in the day the press secretary secretary defines the comments as a, sarah sanders also praised the mood by the house republicans to strip the nine term iowa lawmaker of his committee assignments. yesterday the house approved democratic member rebuking king. of next we will look at how the partial government shutdown for tsa screeners are affecting air travels around the country. first, beyond our borders tonight. authorities in kenya say the terrorists were techy luxury hotel and killed 14 people are dead. officials are not see how many terrorists were involved in that attack, at least one of the victims was american. they say more than 700 people were evacuated during a security operation, the terror group al-shabaab has claimed responsibility. pope francis is insisting
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bishops attending his sex abuse prevention summit will learn the laws to use against predators and how to care for victims. the vatican says the goal of the late february meeting is to guarantee bishops around the world understand what they need to do to prevent and combat the worldwide problem of sexual abuse of minors. turkish prosecutors are seeking an international arrest warrant against new york knicks basketball player, they accuse him of membership in a terrorist organization. he is turkish and an outspoken critic of president erdogan. he denies any terrorist affiliation. he did not travel with the team, he fears assassination. just some of the other stories around her border tonight. we will be right back. ♪ mom and dad got a new car.
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♪ >> bret: the short step tsa said it moved 1.6 million passengers there but screening process yesterday at u.s. airports despite high numbers of absences to i might do to the partial government shutdown. customers waited less than 30 minutes, 97% of them less than 15 minutes. jeff paul reports tonight from atlanta's airport on what tsa workers all over the country are facing. >> protests in north texas at
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the airport with the partial government shutdown enters its fourth week. these demonstrators are just a few of the 43,000 tsa officers across the country who right now are working without a paycheck. >> bret: everyone is angry and upset. >> seminar for us to call in sick with budgets being stretched thin for child care, gas and everyday groceries. tsa says unscheduled absences at times have more than doubled on last year's rate. >> i have run to pay and bills to pay. >> tsa agents are considered essential government employees and are mandated to still show up. other government employees are being furloughed and taking on second jobs to make ends meet. volunteers are also pitching in to help build the void of no pay, in some cases through food drives. >> this will help immensely. i'm incredibly grateful.
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i'm glad that they are here. >> bret: passengers are also taking notice. in atlanta on monday, some waited as long as 90 minutes to get through security. most are trying maintain compassionate. >> be grateful and appreciative. >> it is a shame for them, they will get paid eventually. >> give me my money. if you are working and doing what you're supposed to do, give them the money. >> here in atlanta tsa 30 set an additional 20 officers to deal with the shortage of workers in long lines. they'll be sending a hundred and 20 more in preparation for the super bowl is right here in atlanta and just a few weeks. >> bret: thank you. we have new numbers tonight indicating how you and your fellow americans feel about one of the most polarizing issues in
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the country. abortion. the survey comes had a fridays annual march for life here in washington. fox news at night anchor shannon bream tells us where the abortion fight stands in the u.s. right now. >> i am putting pro-life justices on the court. >> that was candidate donald trump protecting the right to abortion as it now exists. in be overturned. the annual right to life march this week marks the 46th anniversary of the landmark roe vs. wade decision. with vice president mike pence expected to speak. advocates on both sides are energized by recent development developments. in congress state legislators and the courts to either oppose near-total bed or affirm the legacy. >> we've made tremendous progress across the board for women's education, women's health and for women's economic status. there is no reason to take that progress back. >> they are already offering legislation to appeal the current federal ban on abortion
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funding with tax dollars. >> we have a pro-choice majority in the u.s. >> the knights of columbus poll finds the survey that they should either allow states to enact restrictions or it should allow states to ban the procedure altogether. conservatives are putting their resources into state laws designed to keep chipping away at access for the procedure including so-called heartbeat bills. indiana's law signed by then governor mike pence banning abortion based on gender, race or disability including town syndrome. it is now pending at the u.s. supreme court >> there are many more cases working their way through the litigation right now but have to deal directly with state laws that have been passed to protect unborn children and to protect women inside of portion facilities.
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>> earlier this week a federal judge issued a nationwide injunction against trump administration regulation. aim to giving pro, for-profit to certain methods of contraceptio contraception. new rules have allowed those organizations to avoid funding specific birth control methods under employee provided health coverage. >> bret: thank you. american military defense personnel.and a suicide terror attack in syria. we talk about it with fox news national security analyst, that is next. ♪
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♪ >> we have won against isis. we have beaten them and we beat them badly. >> the caliphate has crumbled and isis has been defeated. >> i hope the president looks hard to make long and hard.
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>> in northern syria, four americans were killed and two service members and two civilians. there is a lot of talk about syria policy in the wake of this. meeting with editors at the white house, one of them rand paul released a statement from the white house after his meeting. "i've never been prouder how donald trump. he stood up for a strong american to make america a deposed foreign wars. putting america first means declaring victory in afghanistan and syria. "let's discuss all of us tonight. the fox news national security and foreign affairs analyst, thank you for being here. you heard senator lindsey graham say because of the announcement of the withdrawal of troops that that was enthusiasm, a spark he thought for enemies. do you buy that?
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>> i do, but i add more, that is exactly what isis would do. once they realize we are about to decide -- go to convince us to withdraw faster. it is a game between turkey and the kurds. that is where the real game is. turkey has a security plan that they want to apply moving into kurdish areas. that is it not exactly what we want to see. we want to see a separation. what is happening right now is that isis understands and is trying to spread chaos. >> bret: this president should get credit, from 2017 until now. there has been in operation in the last two weeks to take out that remaining isis part, the president tweeting "i spoke with president erdogan to speak on where we stand in all these matters. 20-mile safe sound, we spoke about economic developments between the u.s. and turkey.
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great potential." as their confidence that turkey will not move in and wipe out the kurds? >> the government are saying very clearly, they consider our eyelashes as terrorists. they want to move in this dismantled that's own. they want to bring in their own militia in that way they defend themselves. that means that they'll be at war with the kurds. we are not even present there. they can be a danger for themselves. the ideal situation is to separate both forces. >> bret: semi allies -- called last thing here, they are concerned about the almost 800 fighters who been captured in syria being held by syrian defense forces, overlooked by u.s. troops. if u.s. troops leave, all of those foreign fighters will somehow be let go into the wind. >> that is seriously a big
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problem in my sources inside the kurdish area told me as of today that they are considering two things. number one, connecting with the regime and having their army deployed across the border. with turkey that would be to our advantage -- not to our advantage. number two, these prisoners would be given up to syria. >> bret: a lot of questions going forward. thank you. next up the panel on talks with the white house on the shutdown and what is next. ♪ but you can believe this, real esurance employee nancy abraham. look her up online. esurance, it's surprisingly painless.
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my name is mike, i'm in product development at comcast. we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. ♪ >> nancy pelosi wants to cancel the state of the union. >> there are hundreds of people working on the logistics and security access. >> she wants to give the president a dollar for the wall. >> $1, talking about taking border security seriously. >> we haven't gotten a reply from the president and his thoughts, it is not official. >> bret: the state of the union scheduled for tuesday, we will see.
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that is where we will begin the panel on the partial government shutdown. a senior editor at national review, mollie hemingway, the senior editor at the federalist. it would be so much easier. [laughter] in this interview, they suggest that there is a compromise. we can get something on the table, yes, it is possible. he spent a lot of time talking about how walls don't work and talked himself in circles a bit. >> the democrats are loving this, this is pure energy for the base. by the way, all the energy in american politics is on the left. they are riding high after november. they feel they have trump on the run. this is a peer-based policing exercise. we post on to show is often the case, democrats seem to be
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paying no price for the broader public. frankly, i don't think there is a broader public anymore. we have a right and a liberal pace and they don't talk. i don't see the incentive that she has to compromise unless this thing goes so that both sides realize, okay we have to cut a deal. >> bret: what did you take away? >> i'm not sure if i agree with what he is saying here about how this is playing out. i don't think it is particularly good to take over the house of representatives and immediately have a shutdown they don't care about. if your members vacationing in puerto rico or working on other issues. i don't know if that shows a level of seriousness that is particularly good. 75% of the government -- for the polls show that only 6% of american voters even said that the shutdown has affected them negatively. most people aren't even aware of it.
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i'm not sure that it is quite the same situation that we have dealt with before. at some point people want to stop thinking about who gets credit or blame, who does this help or hurt and remember there is a that shutdown. there is a fairly modest proposal on the table for border security and other issues that will help with the inflow of drugs. at some point the adults will have to actually take it up and move forward. >> bret: there is a messaging issue on the democratic side. >> my own view is that this is not an issue of morality, a wall is immoral if it tries to imprison people who should be imprisoned. >> bret: to think it is racist racist? >> i don't talk in those terms. that is not the way we should look at it. >> bret: he wouldn't take the walls down that exist currently. >> there so much stupidity in the way we talk about the wall.
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their inanimate objects, they are literally tools and sometimes they are useful and sometimes they are bad or good. both sides have turned the wall and to what holly they called a macguffin. the reality is, molly is right. their policy solutions here. there are lots of serious immigration restrictions, they would take this reform and all these kinds of things in exchange for some of the wall. the democrats are in favor of border security, they just don't want it anywhere else. it is so symbolic. >> bret: that is the thing. if you don't have a compromise position put on a table, politically you're not being heard by the waist of this time, but if you haven't put a compromise on this table does not come back and haunt you? >> again, if we have a situation in which there is a large body
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persuadable people in the middle of the political spectrum who might go either way depending on the facts of this, i would agree with you. we don't have that. for 42% of america it is for trump whatever he says. for here you have 54% who disapproves. >> bret: we have 800,000 workers were not getting a paycheck. they say i don't care what happens next might give me a compromise! >> i'm trying to tell you what is going on here politically. this is a pure partisan squabble. the democrats are not losing it politically and have no incentive to get out of it. trump for his part is responding only to his base. this is purely about showing, i promised you and i will fight to the death. he said this could go along for a lot longer. i have no problem with that. >> people say we promise we'll work on border security. if you allow this easing up whatever restriction we will get to the border security.
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we will care about that that never happens. at some point congress actually has to step up and do its constitutional duty of handling this issue. >> first they were 2020 presidential election to fight over. >> bret: to the state of the union happen? >> personally, i really hope no not. i dislike the state of the union. trump can do it from the oval office. it was a tradition started by woodrow wilson, the worst president of the 20th century. it was not his greatest crime. i think nancy pelosi and your explanation for why she does want to do the security thing buys into the idea that it is a ceremony for a king and it is lame and dumb. she should say we don't want you and own it.
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>> bret: doesn't happen or not? >> it might not happen because she is taking this position where she can truly back down by saying it is fine. >> the constitution requires that, so what will happen one way or the other. >> bret: panel, thank you very much. when we come back a very special homecoming. ♪ i'm ken jacobus and i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. and last year, i earned $36,000 in cash back. which i used to offer health insurance to my employees. what's in your wallet? but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.
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training. the teacher said, what a way to end the class. congratulations. thank you for inviting us into your home tonight. i was it for "special report." they are, balanced unafraid. "the story" starts right now. >> martha: i like the triple hog. he wasn't on hugging. beautiful, thank you. nancy pelosi says it would be unsafe to hold a state of the union address. >> the security is an issue. he can make it from the oval office. >> martha: homeland security is calling for a bluff on this essentially saying that that is ridiculous. the secret service are fully prepared to support and secure the state of the union. you would imagine that those are all essential jobs on that big ni


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