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there in droves monday to honor him. thousands came to show their support, including air force from fort hood, and the line of traffic you can see for miles. that is it for "special report," fair, balanced, and unafraid. "the story with martha maccallum" starts right now. >> martha: well done, thank you very much. good evening, everybody. what are the political lessons of the midterms? voters are not happy with what politicians have done for them on health care. democrats are laying down their plan, and it may be hard to win and the nomination did not offer the full extreme. health care for all, single player, government center. president obama was criticized for saying that ultimately, that would be the goal. then he made a promise on obamacare that he could not kee keep. now rising star kamala harris is going there on the full
government plan, watch this. >> if you've got health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor, you can keep your plan. >> you don't have to go through the process of going through an insurance company, going through the paperwork, all of the delay, let's eliminate all of of that, let's move on. >> martha: that idea already being endorsed tonight by one of the newest and most often loudest voices on the left. watch this. >> do you support the proposal last night, medicare for all and 11 a insurance companies? >> i think that is the direction that we have to go in. >> martha: congressman is chairman of the policy and communication committees, great to have you back on the program. is that where the democratic party goes as we head towards 2020? single player government health care? >> we just won a midterm election and the house democrats
really ran on three issues. one of them was driving down health care costs, particularly the cost of prescription drugs. i think we have a number of new members that have a lot of ideas about the ways we can expand health care and drive down costs. there are a lot of different approaches for this, but democrats are united in a commitment to ensuring that no longer does any american family lay awake at night worrying whether they will have some medical emergency where a child is sick and unable to see a doctor. are there a lot of different ideas about how to do it, but we are committed to making sure more americans are covered -- >> martha: i understand, but she is one of the most prominent people to have declared so far, we have a long way to go, i will absolutely grant you that, but do you support what she said last night at this town hall? do you agree with her? >> i don't take the position that you need to eliminate private insurance. i think you can expand medicare, provide medicare for everyone, and still have a private insurance market. >> that is estimated to cost
$32 trillion over the next decade, and keep in mind, the annual budget right now is $4.4 trillion, that would be a huge portion of our annual spending would go towards medicare for all. >> we live in the richest country in the world, there is no reason that everyone shouldn't have access to affordable health care. if you eliminate the insurance costs over time, i think you can drive the costs down, the cost of prescription drugs -- >> martha: but with obama car, that was called the biggest lie of the year because people were told they could keep their doctor, they could keep their plan, and then they couldn't. >> i am not suggesting that you would need to eliminate private insurance. i think what we have to do is have a serious debate, build consensus, what is the best way to move forward, the affordable care act made certain that 20 million more americans have access to health care. that is important. we need to build on the success of the unfold affordable care .
this is the richest, most powerful country in the world, we need to provide health care for every american. >> martha: many people have private insurance that they are largely satisfied with, so i just think it is an interesting place to go. when you look at the former starbucks ceo, the founder of starbucks, he is also considering running now, howard schultz. he said abolishing private plans is un-american. what will they do with next? the coffee industry? what would you say to that? >> if you look at the canadian system, private insurance exists. people still have an opportunity to buy private insurance. >> i just think people have access to high-quality affordable health care, people should not have to go bankrupt and worried that a sick child cannot see a doctor. we are better than that. we can build on the success -- >> martha: 22 million people are uninsured. most of the country is insured. >> it is unacceptable that
28 million people are uninsured. we need to fix this problem, we have made tremendous progress but we need to build consensus and move forward. >> martha: a heckler shouting at howard schultz, then we will let you shout back and see what you think. >> you helped elect trump! you egotistical billionaire [bleep] >> martha: what does that person really think? just shouted out. >> i guess it was pretty bad. i think, look, if anyone thinks that the last two years of the trump presidency and the midterm elections that the american people are searching for another billionaire businessman with no government experienced around the country, i think they are sadly mistaken. >> martha: i just want to put up one last question for you, this is a very interesting poll that just came out, i want to get your reaction. it basically shows that most
people in the democratic party and the republican party would like their elected officials in their party to move further to the right. this is democrat views, do you want your party to be more mom and republicans also say they would like to be more conservative. what do you make of that when you look at some of the movement you have seen and your party that is going further left? >> it doesn't surprise me at all. i think democratic voters and most voters want congress and of those in elected office to get things done, so saying be more moderate, meaning compromise, doesn't surprise me. but we ran a midterm election that focused on driving down health care costs, the cost of prescription drugs, raising family incomes, rebuilding the infrastructure on our country, and taking on the thierry scruggs in washington. some people would say that is moderate, i think those are important issues, and i think that is where democrats are. >> martha: thank you.
mark meadows, freedom caucus chair and member of the house oversight committee, it is great to have you with us. thank you very much for being here. >> great to be back with you. >> martha: you listened to that invitation and you heard what kamala harris said about probably eliminating private insurance. your thoughts? >> obviously, at least at the senator was being honest. i could remember a president that was saying, if you like your health care, keep it. she is at least saying that you can't keep it, so i am sure that 140 plus million people went oh, my gosh, we are going to allow for a government takeover of health care? i can't think of any of us that want our health care decisions made by our government. and when you go into the dmv, do we want the government being our friend auch and for how we get our health care? i don't think so, and it is an
interesting position. >> martha: we just went through a midterm where we, democrats, understood that people are not satisfied with the health care they are receiving and the plans they are in in this country. republicans -- you had a nice chunk of time to get this ironed out, and this will be a problematic issue for you going forward if you don't. what do you plan to do? >> it will be. if you look at this, obamacare is a democrat lead, not one republican voted for that, and yes insurance premiums have gone up, prescription drug prices have gone up, and so what we have to do is find a way to allow the pressures to come down. but it's not about a government takeover, it is allowing for people to make choices that best fit their families so they don't have to buy a one-size-fits-all kind of health care program. but, you're right. we have to address it. i can tell you they are real
discussions going on between our senate colleagues and house members on how we can address that, but when you look at -- can you imagine all the union workers that are out there that all of a sudden, they have got these great plans, and their candidate, many of them supporting the democratic nominee, the front runner, she is saying we are going to get rid of that? i can't imagine how that will actually play out. >> martha: i think you're right. most americans do have a plan that at least i can count on for the most part. they definitely want costs to come down and there has to be solutions for that. switching to another topic, i want to play another sound bite from kamala harris at the town hall, and this one is on gun control, an issue she feels very strongly about, and she proposed something quite dramatic in terms of making her point on how frustrated she is that more has not happened. watch this. >> here's what i think, i think that somebody should have required -- and this is going to
sound very harsh -- i think somebody should have required all those members of congress to go in a room, in a locked room, no press, nobody else, and look at the autopsy photographs of those babies. then you vote your conscience. >> martha: she is talking about sandy hook. >> obviously any time you lose any person the gun violence it is a terrible thing, yet what we have seen is that some of the cities here in washington, d.c., where i am, chicago, with the strictest gun laws are not actually the safest places to be. so, we have to make sure that we address mental health issues, a number of areas where we keep the schools safe, but really when it comes to putting forth common sense proposal, i haven't heard a whole lot of evidence that comes out of the senate that would suggest, let's get some more money to making sure that school resource officers are well paid and supported, and
we cover those envelopes. we can look at this and say, all right, the ultimate problem here is that the gun, but it is really more about us and taking proper steps to make sure that our kids and families are safe. >> martha: a big issue in the coming election, no doubt. thank you very much, great to have you with us. >> thank you. >> martha: we also what happened with tom brokaw where it stands on the simulation. now pope francis has used some similar language about this. is he going to also face requests to apologize for what he said? we chapter tackle chapter two s story tonight. ahhh!! treat your cough seriously with robitussin cf max. nothing lasts longer and treats more symptoms for your cough, cold and flu. robitussin. because it's never just a cough.
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♪ >> i also happen to believe that the hispanics should work harder at assimilation. i have been saying that for a long time. >> martha: tom brokaw took a lot of heat for those comments, and also for apologizing, sparking an intense debate over the word "assimilation," and whether migrants should be expected to adapt or should want to adapt when they move to a new country, in this case the united states. the issue even came up with pope francis yesterday, who was asked to weigh in on the decision to remove hundreds of asylum-seekers from a community near rome. the pope acknowledged that this was a complex situation, and added, it comes to mind the example of sweden, a country that, back in the 1970s, received many, many immigrants due to a situation of dictatorship in latin american countries and managed to integrate all the people who migrated. by the swedish have said a few years ago that they should take this process more slowly so they can finish it, and this is the
prudent of rulers. here now, fox news senior political analyst, and american enterprise institute scholar and fox news contributor. gentlemen, welcome. mark, you think that the pope isn't really in favor of assimilation, although he did express understanding that sometimes you have to hit the pause, hit the brakes, and wait until people are integrated or assimilated, pick your word. >> i think he means something different between immigration and assimilation. on world of migrant day, he actually talked about how the country should not require learning the language to be a requirement of citizenship, so i don't think he is on the same page. unfortunately, tom brokaw is more right than the pope is on this one. what you are seeing in this case, especially with brokaw, is the toxic result when identity politics meet the social media mob. there is nothing wrong with assimilation. assimilation is how we have been able to be a nation of immigrants for all these years. if you go to europe and you go
to a country like france, you can have a family of immigrants that has been there for three or four generations and they are still not considered french. here in the united states, they become americans within months of becoming to citizens, becaue have the great american melting pot, where everyone who comes here, if you believe in the idea of america -- >> martha: that is schoolhouse rock. let's play a little for nostalgia regions. the great american melting pot. watch this closely and listen to the words. >> they run the country's customs, the language and their ways, they build the factories, help build the usa. >> martha: they brought their customs, their culture, and they helped build the usa. >> that is considered racist now, that is not okay. what is great about america is that we are the only country in human history that is not built on blood and soil, but on an
idea. the idea of human freedom. if you adhere to the american creed, doesn't matter your gender, your race, you can be an american. that is what assimilation means. >> martha: i want to come back to tom brokaw, because you were on the show last night and you said that there was no problem with what he said. nbc is now being asked by the hispanic journalist association to do a number of things as a make-good, in terms of this. they want more than a social media apology, they want a donation to the national association of hispanic journalists, they would like a series highlighting hispanic history and the contributions. they are saying no thank you, mr. brokaw appeared to the does not work. >> my own feeling was that i didn't think tom had anything to apologize for. i think knowing thomas, his heart is clearly in the right on this, and wishing for better assimilation is wishing something good for the people being assimilated for the reasons that marcus just discussed with you.
i don't think he should have apologized, and i certainly don't think nbc should feel that it is under any obligation to start providing pressure groups, particularly those who say they are journalists, who are supposed to be neutral. journalists are supposed to be neutral in these controversies, to provide some sort of reparations it to them, and one other thing -- ever heard of telemundo owned by nbc? the second largest spanish-language network in america. it seems that nbc has given office to this already in a very major way. i think that demand its frivolous and should be ignored. >> martha: i want to close with you but on the larger question of this idea, and we see this sometimes. we have seen it with some of the hashtag made two cases, where someone offends someone and then they are asked to make a big donation to someone, and it strikes me that if there is inherently wrong with that, and you are not allowed to just have conversations and apologize, and say, it was taken out of context. now there seems to be a price tag attached to it.
>> it shows you what happens -- look, these organizations -- america is a compassionate country, and a country that doesn't seek justice. the american people are decent, and when they see a downtrodden minority done wrong, they want to see something done about it. what happens in a situation like this too often is that that sense of being the victim becomes a source of power. power corrupts, and that leads to things like this so called journalist association demanding what amounts to reparations from nbc because of something, in my opinion reasonable, that one of their senior journalist said. i think that is all wrong. this is the labeling of any criticism of any nonwhite minority group, any nonwhite ethnic group amounts to racism. it doesn't appear to racism has a clear meaning, we've talked about this before. it means the view of one race is superior to another. that is not present here, not on
what tom said and not on what the pope said. it is just not there. >> martha: thank you very much. marc thiessen, thank you to you as well. coming up next, a closer look at roger stone's early days in politics. who he is, and the story behind him and richard nixon. >> what did you say when he left the courtroom? >> i said i admired nixon's resilience and persistence. >> but it ended badly. >> he helped schools in a lot of ways. switched to liberty mutual because they let me customize my insurance, and as a fitness junkie, i customize everything. like my bike and my calves. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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[shouting "lock him up"] >> martha: roger stone there with a double victory signs giving another nod to his political idol, richard nixon, of whom he has a tattoo on his back. after pleading not guilty today charged with making false statements, and witness tampering. who is this watergate era political firebrand, and how did he land in the center of an indictment by the special counsel? here is the back story of roger stone's path to politics. >> good evening, martha. a lot of us have heroes, even idols, but if you memorialize that love in the way that roger stone does. tattooed on his back is a picture of richard nixon. stone wrote a biography of the
president entitled as a tribute to the nickname of richard nixon in a senate race in california. as you've noted, especially in the past couple days, emulated the victory salute with both arms raised. stone got a first hand look at his campaign. although the love is not returned by the privately funded nixon foundation, who put out a statement after roger stone's arrest. for a time, he was a junior scheduler on the nixon reelection committee. he was not a campaign aide or advisor, nowhere in the presidential daily diaries from '722 '74 is the name roger stone. but stone played a small role in the watergate scandal, answering the jailhouse phone call from one of the burglars. a stone would right of nixon," he was brilliant, devious,
insightful. sometimes less than truthful. it was his sheer resilience and his will to compete and win that i admired." stone meant donald trump through a mob lawyer named roan cohen. he had cut his teeth for a lawyer named joseph mccarthy during that dark chapter of america's history. this is from a piece in "politico," "roger is a stone cold loser, trump said in 2008, he always tries taking credit for things he never did." but when trump ran for president, it was stone trump called for advice late at night. >> what i'm guilty know, politics. i took that information and i puffed it, i hyped it, i've left, i postured, because i was trying to call as much attention to whatever was goingo be released as possible. for votes. that is called politics.
>> today, stone pled not guilty. those have been charges in court, perhaps remembering the advice of his other advisor who says, i don't write light letters, i don't plea bargain, i like to fight. and i guess tonight we will let the viewers decide whether richard nixon, mr. stone's other hero and mentor, would be proud. >> martha: thank you very much much. my next guest is directly tied to stone's political tactics, described as person one in robert mueller's indictment. author of the book, "silent no more, how i became a political prisoner of mueller's witch hunt." good to have you with us tonigh tonight. that is his defense, and that is essentially yours as well, that we engaged in politics, dirty tricks at times, and the time that roger stone learned on the
nixon campaign. >> i didn't admit to any dirty tricks. i am confident he is going to wage of a vigorous defense. i don't expect him to roll over, and my association really was with roger. i was working with worldnetdaily as a reporter reporting on roger, working with stories on roger, writing various things for him, and the major problem i had was the special prosecutor, i had no direct contact with julie and assigns. therefore i could not establish a link from robert stone to julian assange, which is part of, i believe, the conspiracy theory, the collusion theory that the mueller team is trying to develop. >> martha: you and roger were going back and forth in emails, trying to get in touch with wikileaks, trying to figure out when this dump was coming. it says, "word is embassy plants two more dumps." the embassy is obviously julian
assange, wikileaks. you wrote this, you are on vacation in italy, mid-summer, "second and october. impact planned to be very damaging." then it goes on to say "time to let more than the clinton campaign to be exposed as in bed with the enemy, if they are not ready to drop hrc. that appears to be the game. hackers are starting to suggest that hillary clinton is old, memory is bad, has a stroke. i expect much of the next dump focused, setting the stage for the foundation debacle." that sounds really very much a spot on to exactly what happened. >> i think the special prosecutor had a hard time, and probably the public does -- that was our 25th wedding anniversary, my wife and myself in italy. i had some time and really connected the dots, i figured out that julian massage had mike podesta's emails, and i was remarkably right about them. generally, the special prosecutor set i had to have a
source. we spent the last 20, 40 hours of this gruesome interrogation -- i detail it in my book -- looking through all my contacts, all my sources in 2016. and we couldn't find anyone that i was using to be in touch with assange. neither could the special prosecutor. i am maintaining, as difficult as it may be to understand, i didn't connect the dots in figure it out on my own. >> martha: the irony is, when you look at these, roger stone is telling you you really ought to get in touch with wikileaks and find out when they are going to make their next dump. which by the way, they have been very clear to admitting to the world, we have more of these emails and we are going to release them. this discussion was everywhere. reporters are talking about all the time. but he says you had to link to wikileaks. he is asking, can you get information? and you're saying the same thing about him. so which one of you was in touch with julian assange, and potentially with the russians on the other side of that equation? >> first of all, i know i was not in touch with julian
assange. >> martha: do you think he was? >> you will have to ask him here >> martha: you said in an earlier interview you thought he was. >> i suspect he had some contact with assange, but again, i can't prove that. >> martha: he claims going out to dinner with assange was a big joke. >> all i can tell you is what i did, otherwise i am just speculating. what i can tell you for sure, i had no contact with assange's case. he has even affirmed that. wikileaks put out a statement in the last two weeks naming me by name and saying jerome corsi had no contact with contact with julian massage, or wikileaks about the 2016 campaign. >> martha: he says he has no contact with the russians and the russians gave him nothing, so that's -- >> and i wonder why not. this is a predicate of the mueller investigation. i think he started looking at the evidence that he hadn't said it wasn't the russians. >> martha: you said you looked at the indictment, read the whole thing, and you said you
believe they have no reason to send you to prison. but you do say that you believe roger stone should be very concerned and should be taking this whole thing extremely seriously. why? >> first of all, i don't even think the mueller team is going to indict me. i am less concerned about that. i think i will be a witness in rogers case. all i know is after the 40 hours -- one thing i will tell you about the mueller team -- they are extremely thorough. they have everything. roger shouldn't underestimate that every communication he had, telephone, email, who he met with in person, the mueller team has spent endless resources. roger should go into this fully prepared understanding that he is not going to be able to dodge the evidence that i'm sure mueller has. >> martha: jerome corsi, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> martha: thank you for coming to "the story." roger stone will be on "the ingraham angle" tonight. you can listen to his side of his equation. coming up next, trump's plan to
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>> martha: the president sounds serious about this come about ending the 18 year war in afghanistan. the united states and taliban recently agreeing on a peace deal. it is you ever think you would hear that? it includes a drawdown of u.s. troops from the region and could ultimately seal the deal on a victory for president trump as he heads into 2020, that is what he is helping. joining me now, the navy navy l who fired the shot that killed osama bin laden. $851 billion, the cost of being in afghanistan since 2001. are we done there? >> we were done there a while
back. my first trip to afghanistan was in 2005, and at that point there was no such thing as explosive devices or suicide bombers because the mission of the time was to take out al qaeda and just do that. and we did it, and for some reason we decided to get into nation-building. to put it in perspective, when we first invaded afghanistan in 2002, college freshman this year were infants. we have been there a long, long time. are we going to colonize this place customer can we going to sit there for 50, 100 years? we are at a sad point in d.c. where we argue for 24 hours about white house whoppers and what they said -- a kidding capitol hill, we are arguing about that. $5 billion for some steel. we are not in a position to colonize anybody. so all we need to do, which we should've done in the first place, which is frustrating for operators on the ground, we need a few land bases where we can maintain a presence, and air force, and have some a certain three letter agencies in certain spots, because once we hit them in afghanistan --
>> martha: those of the people you always get the credit you for being able to take him out, the people who, as you say, though three letter agencies. speaking of that, the threats, the national security threats that we face, he says there is still thousands of members of isis in syria. some people say, the president is wrong. he said we were done. >> yeah, but we are not going to be done at just like that. it is not black and white. for border security, it is not a wall or no wall. the problem is, it is an ideology. there are like two times left of the euphrates and we are surrounding them. but we have got to figure out al qaeda and isis, the same ideology, they are going to go somewhere else to try to nail it to the wall. they're going to go to yemen, they are in egypt, they are in libya, we have seen them there, we had americans killed in niger. as they are not going anywhere. again, maintain a presence. i mean, it is going to be
something to do with russia, iran, the syrians, the kurds, the turks, it is not going to be, we have a few army soldiers there, it's all good. there are a lot of things going on, it is not a 24-hour news cycle, there's so much going on, we need to maintain a presence but we also need to maintain everything. i've always had, if you really want to lose a war, get lawyers and politicians involved. you will lose it. >> martha: quickly, 5,000 troops to columbia. very quickly, your thoughts. >> on purpose, for sure. john bolton loved the attention, he likes to get the media spun up, which you can believe, the media gets spun up and sometimes. >> martha: i can't believe it. thank you. the chicago river nearly froze today as millions across that area brace for extreme weather, record low jp ships. the weather will be worse than antarctica, folks. ♪ feeling unsure?
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♪ >> martha: did you see this? chicago police rescuing his dog in a situation that could play out elsewhere as the result of a polar vortex that is sweeping the country. look at those. crazy, right? 200 million people will be affected by subzero temperatures, from negative 40 in northern illinois, to a possible windchill of 70 below in minnesota, already reports,
six people have died in this, and more than 2005 have been canceled. joining me now, meteorologist. this is serious and deadly. it could get worse. >> this is the early stages, we are beginning to see some of those temperatures dropping down into the negative 40, negative 50-degree range, but it is all because of a cold front is sweeping across the country. that is what you are saying. everything behind, that is where the temperatures will start to fall. in the upper midwest, getting to the point where yeah, you are at negative 40, negative 50 degrees. again, this is the early stages of the spirit a huge area we are talking about, windchill warnings, when windcl advisories, and i like this map because it runs through the next 48 hours and you see spots falling down to negative 50 early, in chicago there early tomorrow morning. it never gets much warmer than negative 40 degrees. that runs you all the way into thursday morning. this is going to be a frigid,
frigid next 48 hours or so. a really picks up by the weekend -- >> martha: stay inside, called the police, call anybody you can to help you find someplace that is warm and go there. adam, thank you. we will be watching throughout the night. still i have, supermodels are facing a legal backlash for telling thousands of millennials to go to a remote island for this really fantastic music festival of the century. now the man who organized those, speaking out for the first time since he was arrested. 's because they are calling me all these crazy things, showing me one thing, i say it's not true. they show me one thing, i say it is not true. i am ready. with my friends to our annual
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millennials into a nightmare of white tents, cold cheese sandwiches, and no water, now a legal battle, that could be the beginning of high profile supermodels and influencers involved with promoting this event, trace gallagher live in the west coast newsroom with the back story on this one tonight, hollow, trace. >> hello, this all began as an app, was supposed to be the uber of booking talent, you would log on, pay the fee, and she would be there. the brainchild of billy mcfarland who is working with the wrapper job rule, then the app morphed into fyre festival, complete with a list performers, luxury accommodations, and five star cuisine, to promote to the festival, billy billy mcfarlanw in bella hadid, hailey bieber, emily ratajkowski, elsa hosk, and kendall jenner to shoot videos on a super god, and it worked.
within 48 hours, 95% of tickets were sold at prices ranging from -- $100,000. but as they point out, the festival never happened, and not only did fans lose tens of thousands of dollars when fyre filed for bankruptcy, the moguls were never paid to, and here is part of the hulu documentary. >> has anybody ever called you a compulsive liar? >> i've been called a lot of things since the festival. >> billy mcfarland is serving six years in front federal prison for fraud. information is hard to obtain, so now as part of the bankruptcy case, a judge is allowing the agencies that represent the supermodels who promoted the fyre festival to be subpoenaed to find out how much they were paid to promote the event. the hope is to figure out what happened to the millions of dollars in ticket sales. many of the models we should know to have gone on
social media saying that they never realized the festival was a giant fraud. >> martha: thank you very much, joining me now, criminal defense attorney, market, this is getting a ton of attention on netflix and hulu, lots of people watching this. telling the story of billy mcfarland who will do six years in jail for fraud. what about the newest wrinkle here that sort of opens up the whole can of worms about the instagram and social media influencers, and how much culpability they may have? >> martha, i have no problem with them being forced to come into court and say exactly what they were paid. there are 26 million reasons why i think the judge should continue down the path that they have already gone down. people invested their hard earned our letters thinking this was one thing, and billy mcfarland is a big fat fraud, you need to find out where the money went, and there is no supermodel privilege.
>> martha: they need to know how much he paid these different models, and whether or not they got their money, then are they going to call it back and try to give reparations to some of these people who lost their money? >> no, likely not, but we believe that they got millions of dollars, why? because billy mcfarland said so? i would not believe that. i would not believe anything that flows from his lips, let them come into court and say that they paid them $255,000, kendall jenner will say that i am going to fyre. because now you have to say it was an advertisement, i was not going, they were paying me to do so. they have a certain level of culpability if they had any idea that this was as fraudulent as it was. >> martha: i'm sure that there a lot of people out there that do not understand the extent to how much you can make being in instagram or -- influence on social media. for example, these are the top
ten influencers on social media. kylie jenner at the top of the list, everybody knows that she is the youngest billionaire in the country. and selena gomez is on that list as well, if they wear a pair of shoes, she can get, kylie jenner can get $1 million for wearing a pair of shoes on instagram, right? >> insane, all it takes is one guy, who by the way, his claim to fame was some credit card company that most people complained about. he was a fraudster before he started. all he did was take people's money, buy the influence and then he sells out a festival. this is ludicrous, martha. i have no problem with them being brought into court to try to account for where the money went. >> martha: leading to some more accountability with the influencers and the impact that they have, or -- >> no, it should. it should absolutely lead to more accountability, especially
when there is fraud behind it. this is very different, you have people who invested their money, and they have to figure out where it went. if it went to the supermodels, okay, there is no money to be found. but maybe he said that it went to them and i went somewhere else. >> martha: always good to have you, thank you so much. it seems the top of the show on kamala harris' calls to abolish insurance plans it struck a nerve with the viewers. asking congress if they are willing to do away with their cadillac coverage if they are willing to live with medicare for all like everyday americans, maybe we would be ready for a conversation. jack wrote this, people on medicare have a hard time finding doctors who will accept them. what happens when the whole country is on medicare? someone needs to ask that question. thank you, jack, for writing that in pair to send us your comments and your thoughts. you can email us at foxnews.com. don't forget to include your home town. we will be back here tomorrow
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