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available online any time on demand. a quick look at the dow as the time bell is ringing on wall street. and we're covering a lot of the losses of the day. neil cavuto with the best in business starting now. >> neil: all right. thank you very much. these sheriffs have been meeting with the president of the united states. he's going to have comments before heading out to el paso, texas. i'm neil cavuto. you're watching "your world." in the middle of this fight, we have a sudden impasse of not the funding but the facilities meant to detain illegals that are here in this country. these sheriffs have been by and large supporting the president on the wall effort. he could run into some resistance when he gets to el paso as he described it as a city riddled with crime before a wall was built and the crime disappears. ahead of that, what we learned as well is that the president does want to sell his case that he's made concessions to
democrats in order to get a shut down off the table. we're hearing right now that because of other democratic demands that have nothing to do with the wall, he's run into a buzz saw on that. we're going to get the read from steny hoyer, the majority leader in the house of representatives very shortly. for the president, this is his first opening campaign salvo if you will of the 2020 political season. the president and vice president now meeting the sheriffs, big proponents of tougher protection at the border, including el paso where the president will be leaving after he finishes with these guys. let's listen in.
>> thank you very much. i'm heading out to el paso, texas right now. we are going to do a job. we're going to continue to do what we're doing. we made a lot of progress. we've actually started a big, big portion of the wall today in a very important location. it's going to go up pretty quickly over the next nine months. it's fully funded construction. it's a much better wall, much stronger wall and a much less expensive wall than we've been building. we're going to have a lot of wall being built in the next period of time. i'm with some of the great law enforcement people. a lot of them are friends of mine. i've known them a long time. they've been fantastic people.
fantastic men and women. they know what we're up against. we're up against people that want to allow criminals into our society. you explain that one. most things you understand. but they want to allow criminals into our society. convicted felons. people of tremendous like big problems. i got this from homeland security. you look at this. thousands of people; dangerous drugs, 76,000 people. then you have traffic offenses. it's not so good. that's -- every crime. assault. 63,000 people. larceny, 20,000 people. fraudulent activities, 12,000 people. burglaries, 12,000 people. these again are just a different crime. robberies. these are the people coming into
our country that we are holding and we don't want in our country. the democrats want them to go into our country. that's why they don't want to give us what we call the beds. it's much more complicated than beds. we call them the beds. robberies. 5,991. sexual assaults. 6,350. forgeries, 5,158. stolen property, 4,062. these are people we're talking about. kidnapping. these are people that kidnap people. the democrats want them to come into our society. i don't think so. anybody here would like to have a lot of kidnaps left in our society? i won't bother for you to raise your hand. kidnappings. 2,085. homicides.
murder. murderers. 2,028. i mean, it's incredible. sexual offenses. 1,739. just came out two minutes ago. homeland security, department of homeland security. i don't know. maybe we're in a different country than i know of. we're going to el paso. we have a line that is very long already. you can see what's going on. i understand our competitor has a line, too. they'll make it sound like they had more people than we do. that won't happen. we're going to go for a reason. we're going to keep our country safe. we don't want murders and drug dealers and gang members, ms-13 and the worst people in the world coming into our country. now mexico has had the worst
year they have ever had. almost 40,000 killings in mexico this year. one of the most unsafe places unfortunately. we need a wall. the other things are nice to have. but without a wall, it's not going to work. we can have technology, we have beautiful drones flying all over the place. but it doesn't work without the wall. we need a wall. we can call it anything. we can call it, barriers, whatever they want. now it turns out not only don't they want to give us the money for the wall, they don't want to give us the space to detain murders, criminals, drug dealers, human smugglers. how bad is that? human smuggling. people think of that as an ancient art. there's more human smugglers right now, traffickers they call them, than at any time in the history of our world because of the internet unfortunately. so i'm heading out.
we have a tremendous crowd. 75,000 people signed up. i think the arena holds like 8,000 people unfortunately. i like the old days when i was allowed to make outdoor speeches. it was easier. you could have big crowds. but we have a tremendous crowd. screens on the outside. a lot of people coming. again, if you look at your own news cast, you'll see people lined up for a long way. a lot of people. sheriff, would you like to say something? >> neil: monitoring the president. he's meeting with sheriffs urging more funding and support for a wall here. this was supposed to be not a foregone conclusions but democrats and republicans agreed on funding. it was less than what the president wanted. he wanted $5.7 billion but they were there. the dust-up over detention beds at ice centers that has threatened to sort of unhinge
this. let's get the read from steny hoyer. congressman, where good to have you. where does it stand right now? >> there's still negotiations going on between the two sides, between the two houses. hopefully they will reach an agreement. hopefully they'll reach an agreement soon. obviously we need to fund the government. we must not shut down the government. contrary to what mr. mulvaney said. shutting down the government ought not to be an option. we want to see an agreement reached. a statement was put out a few hours ago as to why we were trying to restrict the numbers of beds. let me say the president's statement that he just made is absolutely incorrect. in the statement, the chair of the homeland security subcommittee, she said clearly they wanted to have sufficient beds to house -- to keep
whatever criminals are elected or arrested. we think that that is the proper thing for ice to do. clearly if we have people who are committing crimes, putting in danger either people or property, they ought to be taken off the streets and frankly incarcerated or held. but we're talking about beds sufficient not to deal with criminals, which is what the case is now, but dealing with people who are working, paying taxes in our community and are subject obviously to civil action -- >> neil: but you don't know the numbers. the things is that concerns -- you want to limit to it 16,500. the existing cap is 40,000. it's loose. people have not adhered to these caps per se. but from what republicans are telling me, just came out of the blue.
you dropped that grenade in what looked like constructive talk. >> i was not involved in the conference itself. >> neil: understood. but wouldn't this issue be worth a potential shut down on this new issue? >> i don't want to say a shut down, period. i want to see this issue resolved and see the department of homeland security budget resolved. it needs to be -- >> neil: this came out of nowhere, right? you agreed on the broad blueprints. you got the president under $2 billion for a wall. everybody was inching toward it, this issue came up. now republicans are saying if we have a shut down because of your colleagues forced this issue, it will be on them, not on the president. what do you say? >> we have an agreement on six of the seven bills. we ought to pass the six bills. we sent the six bills to the senate. they ought to pass them -- >> neil: but you don't have an agreement on this. >> we don't. this did not come out of the blue. the chair, as i said, has been
talking about this issue for a very long period of time, this is not a new issue. >> neil: it wasn't supposed to be part of this issue is what i understand. >> part of the funding for the department of homeland security and for the ice. so it is part of this bill. >> neil: if you feel that some of your colleagues were feeling emboldened by how they handled the first shut down that maybe they had the president on the ropes and they could push something that nobody saw come something. >> look, i think that one side thinks a wall and expanded money for the wall is appropriate policy. one side disagrees. one side believes that we ought to have sufficient beds to take criminals out of our neighborhood, take them off the streets and be dealt with in a proper way, period. so when the president says we don't have enough beds for criminals, we don't think that's
the case at all. certainly nor does the conferrees on the democratic side. what we don't believe is we ought to have so many beds that we can randomly take people who are obeying the law, but who may be subject to civil action in terms of being in the country without papers. we ought not to have these roundups -- >> neil: the moderates in both parties saying we ought not be having this added debate in the middle of what was originally funding for a wall and whether it was necessary, how much it would be, how long it would be, et cetera. that maybe this is your party emboldened to some of the far left elements that have been saying out of extremes just defund homeland security altogether. you didn't go that farther. how do you answer that? >> they didn't go that far. some suggested eliminating ice as an organization.
i was not for that. the speaker was not for that clearly. we're going to have immigrants, we're going to have customs. we need enforcement. >> neil: so you think ice has value. >> of course it does. it's like the irs. it's an essential agency. >> neil: so when congressmen cortez and others say it should be shut down, you say that is too far? >> that goes too far. but let me reiterate, this does not come out of the blue. this is not a tactic. chair woman allard has been pursuing this as an issue of the large roundups in her community and around the country that are not related to criminal conduct. >> neil: could this be a deal breaker for a deal, period, by friday? >> look, a deal breaker -- we didn't want wall money. we think you need personnel, you need infrastructure, you need technology.
we were just at the border. clearly those are all necessary. but the fact of the matter is the president wants a wall. okay. i've always said that that's probably part of the agreement. but to just say that's part of the agreement, but the interest and the conferree's interest in making sure the people we're dealing with are a criminal element which the president way, way overstates. the border patrol will tell you that as well. >> neil: congressman, wish we had more time. thanks very much. >> thanks, neil. >> neil: the fallout from all of this and whether it could lead to a shutdown on friday, hard to say. more after this.
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not going anywhere. he plans to serve out the remaining three years of his terms. he said the controversy surrounding a racist photo puts him in a unique position to address racial inequalities in a state going forward. >> i think i'm in a position where i can take virginia to the next level. it will be very positive. we have a number of inequities in this country right now and in virginia. we're in a position to really stop talking so much and now to take action with policy to address a lot of these inequities. >> nearly every member of the state assembly says the governor lost the ability to lead. you have to remember, three years is a long time in politics. northam hopes that eventually the lawmakers will come around to work with him to get things done. lieutenant governor justin fairfax is refusing to resign over a pair of sexual a saul allegations. in an interview, he said
everybody deserves to be heard, even faced with these allegations. i'm still standing up for everyone's right to be heard and also standing up for due process. a virginia democrat said he's holding off on moving ahead with the impeachment process to try to remove fairfax from office. he said the impeachment process is about investigating to find the truth. i'm open to discussions on other avenues that would accomplish the same goals. at this point, there's no clear answer on what other avenues are available for the general assembly to investigate the assault allegations. the assembly doesn't have assault power. >> thanks, garrett. so can you impede the lieutenant governor in this case for crimes and allegations that have yet to be proven in larry sabato, that's a slippery slope there. what do you think? >> it is. virginia has no modern
experience with impeachment and conviction. it would be a long messy process. i'm not saying they won't try it if everything else fails. at this point, most people have said, all right, let's have an investigation whether it's by the fbi or the virginia state police or some other police investigative unit. people want to see what the truth is. the statements from the women are disturbing. >> neil: what is weird no matter how it sorts out, you can have the two white state officials, the governor and the attorney general stay in power and the african american lieutenant governor going. i don't know how that is all politicalligy guested. what do you think? >> it won't think it would go over with african americans. of course, the governor will get to a point, the new lieutenant governor. i suspect but don't know it will probably be an african american, maybe an african american woman. >> so how does the state rebound
from this. >> assume they get their act together or find a consensus on each and all. obviously democrats want to protect the chain of command from ever falling to the republican. i understand that. but would the state be more in play than we were thinking? that this state that was once red turned purple, turned pretty blue is in flux now for 2020? >> we have a test coming up in november, neil. all 140 seats in the state legislature, both houses, are on the ballot. it's possible that a new lieutenant governor will be on the ballot, too. so we'll have an early test and so whether the commonwealth of chaos has settled down or not. >> neil: is it your sense that it has or it will? >> well, it hasn't yet. we still have controversies all over the place. it will take awhile, neil. this is february. i'd be surprised if all of this were sorted out by months from
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>> neil: you know, this almost got lost in the talks today. something very interesting. the president signed an executive order a few minutes against to launch the american artificial intelligence initiative. puts the full weight of the federal government behind efforts to develop artificial intelligence to increase our nation's prosperity and as the reading goes here, enhance our economic security. if you're scratching your say saying this is the issue with the chinese and our talks with them. remember, we've been saying the
chinese pour a great deal of money into that. this is our response there. if they're going to continue doing so and right now there's no indication they're going to lighten up in that regard, we're going to do so. critics say we're late to this ai party. the chinese are way ahead of us. they've been committing billions to this. we're sort of late to this. so this is more coordination of those efforts. we'll keep a close eye on it here and whether this comes up in the trade talks that are continuing this week is anyone's guess. it's china and the united states trying to dominate an area that is bigger than the space program in the 60s. we'll keep an eye on it for you. meantime, the thoughts of what steny hoyer said in whether democrats suddenly confounded everyone and torpedoed a deal by friday. still might happen. here's what he had to say. >> a lot of republicans are saying if we have a shut down because of your colleague forced this issue, it will be on them,
not on the president. what do you say? >> neil, we have an agreement on six of the seven bills. we ought to pass the six bills. we sent those six bills to the senate. they ought to take them up, pass them and -- >> neil: but you don't have agreement on this. >> we don't have an agreement. >> neil: all right. what this is setting a number on detention beds that ice can use for illegals and others captured. they want to keep it as a ceiling of 16,500. in some cases, that goes over 40,000. no one has been sticking to numbers of any sort anyway. it swings from the 30s to the 40s in some given periods. there was a surprise that this was added in the mix at the last moment. as you heard, steny hoyer said it wasn't at the last moment. it's been out there. to my memory, never in these exact negotiations. i could be wrong. someone that could tell me, is
demi lesko. very good to have you. >> thanks for having me. >> was this an add-on out of nowhere? it's know it's been bandied about and restricting ice and beds at detention centers. then it was mixed in to these talks on the wall. that i have not seen. >> it's clear to me that the democrats care more about illegal immigrants than our own citizens. it's very disappointing. we had heard as late as late last week that they were close to a deal. that was good news. now they throw in that they want to cap the number of detention beds, which sheriffs from across the country said would release dangerous criminals -- >> neil: have you ever heard this argument before, congresswoman? as far as these negotiations i have not. have you? >> i have heard the argument before. but never as part of these negotiations.
they keep moving the goal post as tom graves said they did over the weekend. doesn't surprise me. it's really discouraging. we need to secure or southern border. i'm from the state of arizona. i know that there's a crisis at the border. i've been to the border. when nancy pelosi and chuck schumer say this is a manufactured crisis, they're absolutely wrong. the american people want us to secure our nation, secure or border. they want us to keep the government open. the president has been very patient in trying to negotiate with the democrats. they just will not come to the negotiating table. when they do, they move the goal posts. so i hope they can get things done. i heard there's a meeting going on right now. let's hope it gets done so we can keep the government open and also secure our borders, this is important. the number 1 mission of congress to secure our nation and protect our people. let's get this done.
let's have the democrats stop this nonsense. come to the negotiating table, get it done. >> neil: you think we'll have a shut down the way things are going? the two sides seem faux apart with this new issue. >> i don't know. time will tell. i'm ready to stay here and continue working but i have to tell you, when one side, the democrats, won't even come to the negotiating take and when they do, they change the goal posts, it's very disappointing. very discouraging. i'm glad that we have the president that we have. quite frankly, if we had a democrat president, you know, our nation would be insecure. >> neil: thanks, congress woman. i'm sure the democrats would disagree. you never know. the president to the congresswoman's point is headed to el paso, texas. hi ran into some criticism when he said the city was an example of a place that benefitted from barriers. that they reduce crime. the mayor of el paso was furious
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high rates of violent crime. one of the highest in the entire country and considered one of our nation's most dangerous cities. now immediately upon its building with a powerful barrier in place, el paso is one of the safest cities in our country. >> neil: el paso's mayor heard that and he was flipping out because the city was never as the president claim before the wall, after the wall a safe place. it's been a safe place. he's now with us on the phone. what did you think of that, mayor? >> well, i was a little surprised, neil. as a matter of fact, i was sitting at the airport in el paso waiting to catch a flight to austin, texas. i heard that. of course, the end of his comments about being one of the safest cities in the nation is
correct. we are, according to the uniform crime statistics reported to the fbi, the lowest crime rate with a population greater than 500,000. >> neil: was his reference to the wall when it came around 2008 or so, 10, that wasn't a crying change. but what different did it make? >> it's part and parcel to control of our borders as a sovereign nation, a physical barrier will challenge people. homeland security will talk about that it stopped automobile thefts and crimes of that nature. people were coming over, steal their vehicles and drive them across the bridge to mexico. so that went way down. so some of the neighbors --
neighborhoods say they feel safe with the fence there it has some benefits. the primary reason we had the low crime rate is because of the police department and the neighborhood policing we were doing. community policing. so it was a combination of i guess all of the above. >> neil: so mayor, you're a republican. i don't know whether you'll be with the president tonight. will you? >> i'm trying to visit with him before the rally to talk about el paso a little bit. >> neil: did you or your staff convey, you know, how upset you were after the president said you were crime ridden prior to this? >> well, candidly, neil, was echoing what our attorney general for the state of texas said a couple weeks ago in mccowan, texas was incorrect. he was merely echoing comments that he heard from the texas attorney general -- >> neil: glad you mentioned that. he was going on that information. you can't know every city and
town. but why overhype it then? if it works, great. it didn't alter the crime landscape. >> no, sir, it did not. it had -- we were number 2 or number 3 safest city before the fence went up. progressed to number 1. we were significantly low on crime to begin with and always have been. we've been tainted somewhat but the part of juarez, mexico in the early part of the 2000s, 6 and 7 and 8 maybe when they were having their drug wars, the cartels were fighting it out. we were never tainted with that. we were never involved in that. >> neil: mayor, thanks very much. a beautiful city. love the positioning. it's next to everybody. great having you. >> pleasure being here. >> neil: meantime, the democratic field is growing and
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then i believe it's who can best beat trump. then you have to be a pro growth democrat to beat trump. you have to be strong on the economy. >> neil: the immediate thing that that raises is they go too far with the big government initiatives and going after the rich. i heard that amy klobuchar was buying on to this green deal, there might be nuances in that approach but it's not cheap. what do you through? >> yeah, if it's true that the democrats need to have a pro growth democrat, they'll have a hard time. the progressive in the party will pull them all the way to the left. more social programs, higher tax rates, green new deal. everyone -- payment for everyone that doesn't want to work, unwilling to work as we saw in aoc's original state. they're going to get dragged to the left. >> neil: and alexandria ocasio-cortez who does seem to be leading the direction of the party but not across the board.
where do you see this going? >> democrats are really going to find themselves in a bind if they get pulled too far left. if they don't have this obama-like candidate that can get maximum turnout. right now monmouth says 56% of the voters value a candidate that can beat trump over idealogical purity. i think that we'll see that change if democrats want to run on the multi-trillion dollar spending packages. >> neil: republicans are no stranger to trillion dollars of spending and building big deficits and debt. they're both good at that. >> there's a difference between a $3 trillion tax cult and a green deal that cost in the tens of trillions to fund it. >> neil: we don't know the details. there's not a lot of details. robert, who could win? is it your sense that some have a better network of support,
donors? kamala harris's name comes up. beto o'rourke who has not announced by might. he can raise money. joe biden. any of the entrants there that i mentioned and others that could come in pique your interest or have a very good shot? >> yeah. listen. i've been fortunate to sit down with probably eight of those that have announced so far. kamala, kirsten, corey. i don't think you can discount joe biden. he was the number 1 -- >> neil: you think he will enter? >> my gut feel is this time he will come in. i think he's ready to show that he can beat donald trump. the president. irrespective -- >> neil: i like it you said that, the president. >> i don't want to disrespect the office. irrespective, it's not the far left versus center. on these various social issues, they're all in agreement.
at the end of the day like we always debate, who is best on the economy and who is best on foreign policy. >> neil: the president didn't accidentally in his state of the union refer to the socialist way of what he called it and described it. so he could be teeing up his approach to any of these guys. >> he absolutely is. he's a master of defining the opposition. we saw that in the 2016 campaign. you saw that when he mentioned socialism in the state of the union. if the democrats will nominate someone that is for the far left of their party, they can expect to have some of those socialist policies hung around their neck by the president with his twitter feed with 58 million followe followers. >> neil: is it your sense that he has to sharpen his focus. what do you think? >> whenever trump stakes a step
back and doesn't let the news cycle revolve around him, his numbers go up. people like a good economy. the general sense is that the country itself is moving in the right direction. at least an improved way. but then when he makes himself the story, it's no good. after the shut down, his numbers have been mild increases in his approval rating. but he has to avoid making himself the center of the story. >> neil: it's still early. we have more coming up on this including some surprises on the tax refund issue. not because of the irs shutting down again, but the refund checks themselves that are going out. after this. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else?
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>> neil: the media has been fixated on this irs 2019 tax refund that shows refunds on average are down 8.4% from a year ago. but kelsey, a personal finance writer, isn't that a good thing? that means you had more of the money during the year, so it's not as big a deal. i don't get it. >> well, one thing to keep in mind with those numbers, it's still very, very early in the tax season. the sample size is smaller than it was this time last year. so it's really too early to tell how this tax -- how the tax changes are going to play out over time. >> so when i'm looking at lower refunds, it means that the government didn't hold as much of your money during the year as you would appear to be the lower taxes did. but now people are coming to find out, i might be getting less back and that somehow they're getting gouged? >> a lot of people are surprised if they're getting a lower tax
refund. one of the reasons is, a nerd wallet study showed that 16% of people changed their withholdings after the new tax law. when there's a big change, whether it's a family change or a change with the tax laws, it's good to take a look at your withholdings to make sure you have the right amount taken out. you don't want to have a huge tax refund at the end of the year. >> neil: all right. kelsey, thanks very much. all this breaking news. keeping track of this. as you said, its early in the tax filing season. the publicity around the world's richest man going after a company tied to the world's most powerful one. who is winning that powerful fight after this. e twins. when i went on to ancestry, i just put in the name of my parents and my grandparents. i was getting all these leaves and i was going back generation after generation. you start to see documents and you see signatures of people that you've never met. i mean, you don't know these people, but you feel like you do.
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the "national enquirer"'s finding out the hard way. joe concha. >> this is unprecedented we are seeing here, $105 billion, as you say the world's richest man. basically sent a letter saying that we have pictures of you not from the waist up that we're going to put out there and listen to some common sense. he pulled a president trump. he went through the media filter and went directly to the people by writing a blog post including the letter. this chief content officer of ami, who puts this in writing? polly savino, "goodfellas," pay phones. you don't have a paper trail. >> neil: saying just do this and this will go away. i don't know. i'm no lawyer but that looks pretty bad. >> it does. he broke the "national enquirer "national enquirer"'s business model, probably, jeff bezos in the process. not with a pot of gold but with
a pen. >> neil: i wonder what it means for those who are similarly pressured behind the scenes. we are going to do this, strong-arm you. if you don't succumb, except some embarrassing things that might get out there but people aren't talking about the embarrassing images or texts. they are talking about this. >> he comes out a hero in this although obviously had a mistress. >> neil: that would in itself be quite damaging to someone's reputation but we are focused on this. >> the rich and powerful will go to their crisis communications teams and go to their lawyers and try to work out something behind the scenes. the fact that he got out ahead of this is a lesson for every politician. be transparent and people will forgive you. >> neil: he was pushed into this probably unwillingly. he knew that this information was coming out. it comes out. he announces the separation from his wife of 25 years. lodging the investigation how we
got this stuff but it turned the story around. his going on offense. >> say doing an interview with the media outlet but by writing it from his heart by actually doing it on medium. you can just put blogs on there. >> neil: what is it? >> it says if you keep a diary and you want to share something online and you're able to write it without a filter. >> neil: it looks like all of his writing. >> i would think so. was it vetted by someone? for the most part it seemed pretty authentic. >> neil: anything you want to get clear, get out of the way now because it comes back to you later. >> remember that, when barack obama did cocaine when he was in college. kamala harris yesterday said yes
i smoked pot. elizabeth warren saying that she didn't use her american indian heritage to advance her own career. >> neil: the story line that she is rough on her staff. yeah, i don't suffer fools gladly. it works for her. >> mitt romney had binders full of women. amy klobuchar apparently throws binders at people. >> neil: but to get ahead in all that, to take the issue that might be your biggest weakness and turn it into a potential strength. >> with every crisis comes opportunity or something like that. we are not electing priests. we are electing presidents. people are willing to forgive the personal stuff, look at the current guy in office. they want results. they don't really care about the way he conducts himself personally. >> neil: well said. joe concha, thank you very, very much. we were down 53-point surveys of
the quest for the eighth straight week of gain started off bumpy but we did at last week and a final minute so you never know. right now "the five" is coming next. ♪ >> jesse: hello, everybody. i am jesse watters with morgan ortagus, juan williams, kennedy, and greg. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five" ." their battle for 2020 is officially on as president trump hold his first campaign rally in el paso, texas, tonight. the president taking aim at democrat beto o'rourke for holding a counter rally in the city as he makes his big push for border security. >> we are going to el paso. we have a line that is very long already. you see what's going on. i understand our competitors got ne