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white fish and foie gras but that was it. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for the special report. fair, balanced and still unafraid. i will be traveling back to d.c., tonight or this morning, whatever this is. "the story" hosted by martha is up next. >> martha: in moments, newt gingrich is here. he says while the country has been sucked into a blinding vortex of gossip and hostility toward the president, the world is undergoing the most dramatic change since world war ii. so the power struggle in venezuela, protesting the streets of france and the drama over brexit and a worldwide sex abuse scandal that hangs over one of the world's largest religions. and in the middle east, israel's prime minister indicted ahead of a pivotal election. saudi arabia's crown prince cozying up to china. while nuclear power as india and pakistan are on the nice edge of
war. perhaps the biggest threat, china as a push for military and economic world dominance. and now they are beating that u.s. with the release of ai game changing technology in 5g. my next guest says those are the real bombshells. all of its ago i spoke with newt gingrich, former speaker of the house. and the host of the new podcast. front and center tonight is this question of north korea and a lot of that seems to obviously be linked to what the president's replanning in regard to china. as you mentioned, they are pushing into a very dominant position which is a very important part of our relationship. >> i think the president correctly did not accept a bad deal, just as ronald reagan walked away, and reykjavik, in 1996 from a bad deal. in that sense he did the right thing. i suspect they will come back with much tougher sanctions and
i expect they will put more pressure on china. i was encouraged with the president's toughness on this issue but i think dealing with china in the long run, it's a thousand times more important than dealing with north korea and we are only beginning the process of coming to grips with how big china is going to be. >> martha: is that in the discussions about the emergence of 5g, and i think a lot of people don't fully understand the ramifications of. but you described it as the most technical advancement for the world. it's something we are essentially behind on and china is way ahead. >> the great danger is, 5g is a system that allows you to have dramatically faster speeds and it allows you to control for example, distant surgery or self-driving cars, or farming that is virtually automated.
so if it's an enormous capability. the danger for us, the chinese and of their company while way have been methodically working this issue and we have frankly been nowhere. president trump understands it and has talked about it but the objective factor is that our bureaucracies are behind the curve. we just suffered a terrible week in barcelona at the world mobile phone conference which is an annual event and while way i would say today is very substantiated substantially ahead of us. we can catch up and we can compete but if we don't, what you end up is china not only dominating the technology, but also gathering up all that information and data. if they put in chinese cameras for facial recognition i expect we should assume that the chinese would be our archiving all that data.
>> and look at some of the hot spots that you mentioned. part of what is complicating those equations is, warmer relationships or business partnerships that they have with china. so would you look at for example saudi arabia and you look at the crown prince there who, we have covered the khashoggi story over the last several months which is problematic to be sure, he's also waving away his concerns about chinese -- keeping muslims in concentration camps and cozying up to china. how problematic is that? >> i think it's very grave danger that you will see an alliance of dictatorships against the free world. as you pointed out the crown prince telling the chinese that he doesn't mind if they have a million muslims in concentration camps, he understands that problem. you have that where'd the chinese have an estimated
$60 billion selected. in many ways they are the number one backer of the venezuelan dictatorship, even more than the cubans. i think you will find that the chinese are very methodical and going all over the planet, being competitive virtually everywhere and we do not today have the kind of strategic effort that we are going to need if we are in fact going to remain capable of dealing with them. it's a much bigger challenge than anybody has come to grips with. >> with regard to that, it's a question of human rights which america has always stood proudly in favor of, broad human rights and pressing back on countries when they are in error with regard to that. but the question of otto warmbier came up in north korea and the president said he didn't believe that kim jong un was aware of what happened to him. he said, i take his word for it. then you have pushed back. let's play with the president said about that first of all. >> i don't believe he knew about
it. some really bad things happened to him. he tells me he didn't know about it and i will take him at his word. >> what do you think about that? >> i'm very disappointed. i thought the president had had a very solid and very stable summit until that moment. i really liked what nikki haley tweeted, i think she is exactly right to take that position. i believe that the president should reconsider what he said. it is impossible for that event to have occurred without kim jong un knowing about it. it was in the news media everywhere. we were formally protesting at the level of their government. and i think it is -- i can't quite imagine why the president said what he said. he knows it's not true and he knows it can't possibly be true. i think he was trying to be polite but frankly it never helps with the dictator to be
pleasant to them when they lie to you. it's much utter than reagan would do with gorbachev to take them head-on and make sure he understands that, you are not stupid and you will not tolerate their lying to you. newt gingrich, thank you for being here tonight. joining me now is retired general eject keene. general keane, good to see you. newt gingrich was very critical of the president's take on otto warmbier by the president to the north korean president. what did you think of that? >> i think the president reacts to the world leader. and he forgets momentarily that he deals with pathological liar
liars. and that's just it. >> in terms of walking away from the table on this deal, what is your take on that, was at the wise thing to do at this moment? then the second part of that question is, what does china think when they watch all this? >> i think it's a positive step forward, not a setback of any kind whatsoever. we have broken the pattern here. and executing the same playbook that has predecessor did dealing with previous presidents and that is, give us a little something, relieve us of sanctions and we will promise you the world. that has always worked. they put that on the table again and why wouldn't they, it always has worked. the president said it, i'm sorry, that's not the way it's going to work.
i need you to commit to denuclearization and i need to see it and if you are not going to do that, i'm leaving. and that's what he did. i hope that going forward here, a couple of things happen. if one is, the sanctions themselves, russia and china are not in compliance with the three u.n. resolutions. both of them are providing assistance to north korea. russia has never complied from the outset, and for the life of me i don't know why. we have satellite photos, take them and expose them to the world. china, a delicate situation to be sure because we also deal with trade imbalance and tariffs and negotiations, but we have to call them out as well. let's stiffen up the sanctions even more. remember the reason kim jong un came to singapore and came to vietnam is because of the sanctions and obviously it was the one thing that he truly wanted the most which was a relief from those. so let's get back onto that. the second thing is, if we are
going to meet again let's make certain there is a structure in place before that. in fairness to the administration they tried to meet with the north korean envoys many times in the last eight months, and up until the last few weeks, our boys were not able to meet with them. let's put each other's cards on the table and make some progress. if there is no progress made then don't get the president involved. >> martha: and what about china? he's planning at the end of march to meet with presidenct president xi. what does china think about this? >> i think watching those chinese leaders looking at it was like a got punch frankly to them because they have these serious negotiations coming up.
and they clearly have a desired outcome because of what's happened to their economy. no one has ever stood up to them the way this president has stood up to them. this president won't let go of it. >> you just brought up something really interesting, the pressure they are under economically. we were talking about over the last few days, potential uprisings. president xi is very concerned about what's going on in the economy. >> they have tens of thousands of uprisings in china all the time but they are not publicize publicized. years ago it was still classified by the average somewhere between 40 and 50,000 per year. they have, aside from the public liberation army, they have 700,000 troops that are organized just to control population and they put them in regions where these soldiers are not from because i don't want another tenant in were they asked the division commander to
clear the square users, years ago and he refused. now every single day there is civil unrest someplace in china and they have it totally under wraps. >> martha: amazing. we will be watching what president xi does and when they have this meeting, whether or not he's in position and they have to negotiate. thank you, general. always good to see you. congressman jim jordan is here to break some news tonight on new legal concerns for michael cohen. that is the big story, next.
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congress. but the democrats don't care. they don't care, they just want to use you, mr. cohen. you are the patsy today. he wanted to work in the white house, you didn't get brought to the dance. your existence is nonexistent. we debated a member of congress saying i didn't really do anything wrong. >> mr. jordan, that's not what i said and you know that's not what i said. shame on you, mr. jordan. >> jim jordan grilling michael: during that explosive hearing on capitol hill and today he's going a step further. sending attorney general william barr an extensive 30 page letter that is calling on the department of justice to investigate michael cohen for perjury. good to have you with us tonight. explain to me exactly what you want the department of justice to investigate about what happened yesterday. >> we think there are at least six occasions where in
yesterday's testimony, mr. cohen said things that weren't accurate. he said he would take it 100%. >> you are not supposed to say things that are not true in front of a congressional committee, particularly when you are the first announce witness of this congress and into months months you are going to prison for lying to congress and you don't tell the truth, that's not supposed to be how it operates. so that's a concern. there are other issues that we spell out in the letter. the idea he didn't register as a lobbyist, when you have two companies you are representing, one from kazakhstan and one from korea, a whole host of things that are important. when a witness comes in and says the kinds of things that mr. mr. cohen is saying, that's an issue. he's going to prison for distinct federal crimes, one of which is lying to congress and he did it again yesterday.
>> martha: here is adam schiff who believes he bolstered his credibility yesterday. >> there's no question that any witness coming before congress who has a history where they've been dishonest with congress comes in with a credibility problem, but at the same time, a lot of what he said today i think bolstered his credibility. when people want to make things up they don't generally do it and a half fashion. >> martha: what do you think about that? >> he's delusional. he said he started the trump campaign for president with some website you filed. come on, how do you trust anything he says when he had said things like that, the reason that donald trump ran for president is because i formed her website back in 2011 and he doubled down on that. and of course with his testimony yesterday he doubled down. >> do you think the issues that you are bringing up to the department of justice is really going to pursue that, that they
will move further in terms of accusations that he lied in front of congress yesterday? >> that's a question for bill barr and the justice to department. there were so many inconsistencies, on one hand of michael: said he was the president's personal attorney and yet he wasn't the president's personal attorney. he wasn't on a retainer and he was not getting reimbursed for something else. he didn't want to work in the white house but he did. i don't know what to believe because it's tough to believe a guy who has this record of telling lies in the past. >> i want to replay one of his sound bites from yesterday saying the president did not directly tell him to lie. watch this. >> mr. trump did not directly tell me to lie to congress, that's not how he operates. in conversations we had during the campaign, at the same time i was actively negotiating in russia for him. he would look me in the eye and tell me, there is no russian
business, and then go on to lie to the american people by saying the same thing. in his way, he was telling me to lie. >> it's interesting looking at the coverage of that moment because you look in some places and it says, he didn't directly tell him to lie. end of story. other takes on what happened yesterday's, he said he clearly did tell him to lie and that was the way that he communicated with him. >> you know why you can have both takes? because michael: said things. that goes to the point, mr. trump didn't tell me to live but, he told me to lie. i didn't want to work in the white house but i was offered a job i would take a 100%. this is the point. this is why he's going to prison for lying to congress but we have six different incidences. that's the whole point and that's what we are trying to get across and that's why we sent
the letter to attorney general. >> what about the democrats response to what happened yesterday and the push for impeachment? you think they are going to pursue that? when you look at polls, the american people seem to not be -- the majority of american people seem to not be in favor of doing that. carolyn maloney said she thought the groundwork was there now. >> they are going to do it, it's a crazy plan that they have but they are going to do it. it's no accident that tom steyer was in new york last week organizing town halls and this week was in baltimore organizing a town hall in chairman cummings' district. tom steyer, they are going to do it, that's radical they have become. the guy they brought in to start their whole plan to move on their crazy impeachment process was michael: . as i said, a guy who was going
to prison for lying to congress. >> i want to ask you about your colleague in congress, congressman matt gaetz. this was put out there today by one of the reporters, the writers, edward isaac de boer, who said the controversial tweet that matt gaetz sent out where he talks about whether or not michael: should be very concerned that his wife and his father-in-law may find out about his girlfriend. president trump called matt gaetz last night from hanoi to talk to: about the threats. i was happy to do it for you but you just keep killing it. gates was her telling him. he says he does not discuss calls with the president of the united states and matt gaetz says that was fake news. what do you think about all that? the original tweet from your colleague and the suggestion that maybe the president wanted him to send out that tweet? >> i don't think there's
anything to that. matt gaetz said it was fake news and apologize. i take him for his word. you have to ask him, i have the same position that matt does, when i have a conversation with the president of the united states i don't talk about personal conversations. >> martha: will have an exclusive with congressman matt gaetz on that topic. he can defend the comment and push back on that himself. >> i'm sure he will be happy to do so. coming up next we have a big update on the story. the democratic mega donor mega donor ed to buck and the case of the first young man who was tragically found dead in his west hollywood apartment. new developments tonight. >> now we have the whole country's attention. we are going to have a third one and a fourth one if we don't stop this man. supposed to.
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>> martha: democratic mega donor ed bucket is facing a wrongful death lawsuit tonight in the 2017 death of jamaal moore, the first man who was found dead in his west hollywood home. the death was initially ruled an accidental overdose but in a bombshell new suit, and his alleges that buck forcibly injected her son with drugs. we have an update for our west coast newsroom tonight. >> not only is it filled with graphic details but it's also alleged that buck has a history of isolated black men for predatory encounters. the mother of jamal moran who said investigators found his
naked body lying on a mattress. in the lawsuit ms. nixon alleges that buck had previously selected from her son and injected him with crystal meth. as a reference, she mentions his journal where he wrote, "i've become addicted to drugs and the worst one at that. he went on to write, if it didn't hurt so bad i would kill myself but i'll let ed bucket do it for now. no charges were filed because police couldn't prove that he furnish the drugs. the last month, timothy being, another black male was also found dead inside the apartment. dean's family released a statement that reads in part, ed bucket is heartless but he should know that our family will not rest until justice prevails. and because of the timothy dean case investigators have reopened the case of jamaal moore.
and they've named jackie lacey as a codefendant accusing the d.a. of violating civil rights laws saying ed buck wasn't prosecuted because he was white and him mike donates to dominan dominant, >> i have to live with this for the rest of my life. please, something has to be don done. i'm asking the voters, i live in texas. i'm asking voters to take that into account. >> he says his client is innocent in both deaths and the evidence has not yet gone to the d.a.'s office for review. >> martha: we will see what they find. the push towards eliminating private health insurance in america is now very real.
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name a few. it would repeal the ban on federally funded abortions and cover the cost of prescription drugs and eliminate co-pays, premiums and deductibles. here is an enterprise scholar and fox news contributor, i imagine the priced tag is fairly large but somehow that didn't come up today. >> it didn't come up. it was just a few years ago that president barack obama felt compared to the mic compelled to tell the american people, if you like your health plan you can keep your health plan. it was a live for a lot of people but he felt compelled to say it. today democrats came out and said, you can keep your health plan. and that's what's covered in this bill. the message from democrat says you will have government health care whether you want it or not. >> martha: but how does that work, how did they take away
your employer plan? >> they say they will do it over two years, faye's employer coverage out. you make employer coverage on lawful up for government health care. >> >> i was so smooth, and it's interesting politically as well. but first, i want to quote this kaiser family pole. so when you say do you support medicare for all, 56% say, yes. that sounds great. but then when you say we will also eliminate private health insurance companies in order to pool everybody and pay for the whole thing, then they say i don't want that. 60% oppose that. so politically how is this going
to fly? >> in that poll if you tell people there will be the delays and tests and treatment, socialism sounds a lot better in theory than in practice. that's a kick from it. and also that pole is before you tell the american people that this going to cost $32.5 trillion. that is such a large number that it's almost impossible to wrap your head around it. but to put it in perspective, our entire national debt is $22 trillion so this is $10 trillion more than the entire national debt that they want to spend on this plan. >> martha: so obviously it's an enormous, intangible amount of money for anyone to think about. when you look at the political side of the story and go back to the midterms, republicans got punished for not coming up with an alternative to obamacare. and they lost. a lot of elections, a lot of
people said their number one concern was health care, they didn't like what was happening with health care. it doesn't look great for republicans to scream holy hell about this plan when they couldn't come up with anything and fix it. >> that's fair. remember when george w. bush, my old boss came out of the 2004 election and said, i've got political capital. and everyone said it, that's not what we voted for. i don't think the american people voted for medicare for all, i don't think they voted for socialized medicine. the reality is when people start seeing the price tag of these things. by the way, medicare for all is just the tip of the socialist iceberg. for all is in the new deal, which will cost leica $1,100,000,000,000,000. the work guarantees and the retirement guarantees and the free jobs for people that can't be bothered to work, the price tag for this is impossible and
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>> martha: prime minister benjamin netanyahu says he's innocent after israel's attorney general said he will indict him on corruption charges in three separate cases. the bribery charges stem from two years of investigations into netanyahu's investigation with an israeli telecommute occasions tycoon. he will also be charged with fraud and breach of trust. this is two months after highly anticipated elections that happened on april 9th. under in israeli law, he will not have to step down if the ag follows through the indictment. >> we coddled dictators, chosen the word of dictators and thugs even over our own intelligence communities. the love affair, love letters with kim jong un. standing before the world and
taking the word of vladimir putin over the entire intelligence community. our reputation is being tarnished. >> that was joe biden speaking in alaska. tonight there are reports that he is soliciting potential advisors and advice from social media that executives for strategies on how it would better appeal to younger voters. here is former maryland congressman, john delaney. thank you much for being here. what do you think about the fact that he is seeking advice from social media about how to run younger, i guess is one way to say it? because there are lots of younger folks in the race? >> i don't know what vice president is thinking about in terms of the race and whether he's going to run, so i don't
have an opinion of what he's doing with his campaign. i like a lot of people are big fans of the vice president but i'm focused on my campaign and i think the voters are looking for the candidate who will best bring our country together and actually start solving the problems. i think young voters are looking for that. they are looking for solutions and they have grown up in the world which has been very different from previous generations. they seem gun violence, they seen technology has changed and what they are really looking for is not someone who will try to spin something to them but someone who is going to start solving some of these problems. this to me is a very much solutions oriented generation and i think what they are looking for is something very different from what they've seen it in our political system of the last several decades.
>> martha: i'm wondering about this question. are they interested in nationalizing the legalization of pot? cory booker introduced a bill today that would legalize marijuana nationwide and the cosponsors included elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, kamala harris and kristen gillibrand on board with that. are you on board with that? >> i think young people are interested in certainly decriminalizing marijuana, and so many states have made it legal. i do think the federal government should get out of the way and allow states to do what they want to do with respect to marijuana. >> so you are not concerned about the impact on society of legalizing pot? >> study after study has indicated that marijuana is less addictive than alcohol. >> but there are also many studies who show that most people who end up with opioid addiction problems started with
pot. >> i think our approach to marijuana historically has failed and i think if we do take the next step in legalize marijuana, we should regulate it make sure young people are getting it and make sure there is proper labeling. we should make sure there are resources in the public health system. i'm very mindful of that as everyone should be. but we also have to recognize that across this country there is growing adoption for some form of legalization whether it be for medical uses or to decriminalize it. >> martha: i know that's been the trend but i just wondered if it's been a good idea, like gambling all across america. >> what we do have to do is regulate it. it's going on in the shadows, there is lot of crime, people get imprisoned for a long period of time for possession even though they haven't committed any violent crime. we know what has happened right now isn't working. i think people are interested in lots of issues.
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april last year after serving as the head of the cia in this administration. he sat down with me to talk about his journey from first in his class at west point to our nation's top diplomat. this is his untold story. >> when i was a very young lieutenant, 22 or 23 years old, i conducted my first parole on the east german border. i had my platoon. i remember seeing the border. i prepared but when you saw what it looked like on the other side, it was east germany under the control of the soviet empire. you could see evil. you could literally see the freedom denied to the people on that side of the border. you could see the fences and dogs and towers. they would fly helicopters along the border. they were designed to destroy
the liberty of their people. they were not aimed at stopping us from attacking. they were aimed at denying freedom to the people of east germany. i saw that evil and it shaped my life. i see that here as secretary of state. i understand there are people intent on good and those truly aimed at destruction and evil and corruption. we have to call it out and america has a responsibility to protect itself by pushing back evil leaders who intend to do real harm to the world. >> martha: today who are the most evil actors there today with those visions and defiance for their people? >> well, you see it most clearly in the islamic republic of iran. they are exporting in a way few other nations are. they are trying to deliver that revolutionary islamic zeal not only inside their own country u
exporting it to lebanon and syria and iraq and yemen. that's true evil. when it's not enough to put pressure on your own people and deny them their freedom, but when you want to do that to others outside of your own nation that's true evil. >> martha: how important is your military background to the work that you and understanding our people in unform who are called to be on the ground overseas? >> i am always reminded as america's most senior diplomat, the 4 great americans killed in syria. that was a diplomatic failure. if our team is out everywhere trying to solve these problems through political resolution and making deals with other countries and sharing american values in a way that will reduce conflict. if we can do that, we will have
to put fewer of america's young men and women in harm's way. i am mindful of that. i was never in combat. i served in germany and in colorado. but i have lots of colleagues that fought in america's wars. i am mindful of what they and their families go through. it impresses on me enormous responsibility we have in the state department to put fewer americans at rich. >> martha: secretary pompeo, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> martha: my thanks to secretary pompeo. subscribe to the untold story pod cast. fuel interview with secretary pompeo. it will be released on monday morning. that's our "story" on thursday night. we will be back here tomorrow. good night from new york. tucker carlson is next. >> ♪
>> ♪ >> ♪ >> ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the north korea summit ended early. the president rejected north's negotiations as unacceptable and bad for the united states. is that good or bad? and then democratic presidential candidate tulsi gabbard has been expelled from her party. her crime? opposing war. happy to talk to her on this show. first, michael cohen spent a decade as trump's high-profile lobbyer, and defender and