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thunderbirds are based out of dulles air force base. i want to point out the air force major, he died in a crash last year and he will be honored in a flyover. >> dana: set your dvrs. never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is next. >> bret: democrats ramp up their investigations against president trump. possible into the u.s. china trade war could be insight and picking up the pieces and digging through the rubble of an alabama community devastated by a tornado. this is "special report" ." good evening. welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. congressional democrats now in control demanding a mountain of documents on various topics. in a flurry of letters sent out today to 81 individuals, agencies, and other organizations tied to president trump. the president says he will cooperate with a greatly expanded democratic probe into
his conduct. the head of the house judiciary committee says it's very clear in his mind the president has obstructed justice. yet, new york commerce meant jerrold nadler says it's too soon to talk about impeachment. republicans say this is all political, laying the groundwork for the democrats impeachment move. we have fox team coverage. brit hume has analysis of the investigations in the fall out. we begin with chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge and the details. >> good evening, bret. with subpoena power in the gavel, house democrats launching investigations that go far beyond russia. house republicans say it's not a search for the truth but an effort to damage the president. >> i cooperate all the time with everybody. you know the beautiful thing. it's all a hoax. >> >> president trump respondero house democrats seeking records. from the white house and the 2016 campaigned to his businesses and family members.
>> we'll be issuing document requests. >> justifying probes into corruption, obstruction, and abuse of power, the, the house judiciary committee's democratic chairman said special counsel robert mueller's russia focus is too narrow. >> we can't depend on the mueller investigation for this. the mueller investigation, number one, we don't know when it's ending, despite rumors. number two, its focus on specific crimes. >> house minority leader countered that the president's former personal attorney michael cohen shoulders and a lot of the blame. for potential legal exposure or payments to silence stormy daniels during the election. >> five hire an attorney to make sure i carry out the law, the attorney has a responsibility to tell me what's right and wrong. it's a finance campaign, those are fine. they are not impeachable. >> white house press secretary confirmed "the counsel's office and relevant white house officials will review it and respond at the appropriate
time." congressional republicans said the wide-ranging investigations are about 2020 and the accused democrats of shifting the goalpost. now that they believe the russia collusion cover is apparently bare. >> the investigation is changing, developing. we have been investigating collusion and obstruction. they have left that far behind. they have written off mueller. >> republicans refocusing on the anti-trump dossier after a florida ruled that a deposition from christopher steele can be unsealed. records expected to reveal how the democrat funded opposition research came through channels to the fbi in an effort to lend it credibility. the issue has gotten traction in the senate where republicans maintain control. >> bret: thank you. let's get some reaction to the expanded probe of the president, senior political analyst brit hume is here. your thoughts generically about this launch, the flurry of documents request. >> i don't think it's any action that this is coming at a time when there's widespread
expectation that mueller has about finished his job. there doesn't appear to be many people know who any longer think he will come up with some kind of conspiracy theory related to collusion by the trump campaign with the russians. similarly, there seems to be some doubt that he will make any kind of allegations to the effect that president himself obstructed justice. although you heard jerrold nadler say he thinks there's lots of evidence of that or he thinks it's clear that's true. if he did, why not move to impeachment? he doesn't have the evidence of that. the search is on for something else. they may try to figure out and obstruction of justice charge but it appears they are moving away from collusion. i think, bret, that there is some thought that mueller, because he's not going to indict on collusion or conspiracy to collaborate or whatever, may say nothing about that at all. i don't think that's true. i think he is bound to say something about it or at least report something about it to the
attorney general because that was part of his original charge. mueller's original charge was to investigate that among several other things. i think you will reach conclusions about that and they will become public. if they don't say anything incriminating on that score, i wonder how much wind will remain in the sales of that charge and some others. >> bret: it's important to point out we don't know what we don't know and the process goes to the attorney general. when that happens, we don't know. other investigations. the southern district of new york looking at serious allegations against the financing in the trump organization. is your sense that this is kind of the democrats looking for another ace in the hole? >> yeah, that's what it looks like to me. for the longest time we have been buried under these allegations and all the speculation that trump was greatly aided by the russians in a grand conspiracy to throw the
election. if that doesn't pan out, the public has heard all of this too. i think it's a good question how well the public will receive a lot of continuing investigations and other matters. it's certainly possible that southern district of new york can come up with criminal allegations against the president for the way he conducted his business but justice department policy does not allow for indictment for that while the president is in office. it's not clear to me either that and impeachment would make any sense because impeachment i think is clearly intended for things done by a president while he is in office. this is going to be -- he's going to be under a ton of document requests and continuing hearings and investigations and sound and fury about all of this. how far it will go if mueller doesn't come up with something big, is a good question. >> bret: there is politically a risk-reward moment for democrats. as you point out, we are heading
into the 2020 cycle. already candidates on the trail. if the president were to lose the election, that's how he would get kicked out of office. we always seem like we are one election away from solving the big thing. democrats have to make a calculation, whether it's all investigations or it's actually legislation. >> that's right. there's only so much oxygen in the atmosphere at any given moment in politics. the democrats are going to to te sucking it all up with an endless rounds of investigations on these circus-like hearings like the one last week. it's not clear to me they can build a case that they will need to build to try to legislate or to be noticed legislating. in all the reporting is going to be about something else. most of it. there has to be some kind of calculation as to what is better politically? to investigate or attempt to legislate. even if they don't pass things and get them signed, if they
pass a lot of bills that the president has to veto or get blocked in the senate, those become issues democrats can run on as a way to get their candidates and their presidential candidate elected in 2020. >> bret: all right, as always, with looking at the document requests. it will be fascinating to cover. appreciate it. >> thinks. >> bret: stocks down to start the week. analyst say the markets were jittery about what may what may or may happen with china. the dow lost 207. s&p 500 off 11. nasdaq dropped 18. treasury secretary steven mnuchin has informed congress he will stop making payments into two government retirement funds now that the debt limit has gone back into effect. he says in a letter to congressional leaders he will stop making investments into a civil service retirement fund and a postal service retirement fund. the debt limit went back into effect saturday at a level of $22 trillion. congress has this all that probably by the summer. president trump could reach a
breakthrough trade deal with china in coming weeks. the two sides are said to be getting closer to an agreement that would end the standoff that has kept much of the world economy on edge. correspondent kevin corke is at the white house tonight with specifics. what we know, what we don't. >> good evening. increasingly optimistic officials tell fox news talked with china are making progress but they also cautioned there's still some issues that remain that could impact the pace and timing of a resolution. >> i am dealing with china right now on a very big trade deal, as you probably have read, heard, some of you are a little bit involved. >> welcoming athletes and states attorneys general to the white house, president trump's top economist was welcoming a noticeable improvement in trade talks with china. >> those folks are working really, really hard to deliver a deal that is north of 100 pages now. lots of nuances and details. i think everybody is hopeful, as the markets are, that this will
get to the finish line sometime soon. >> soon could be an end of march meeting at mar-a-lago with chinese president xi jinping. the president has instructed his trade representative to inform the federal register tomorrow of his intention to keep tariffs on $200 billion with of chinese goods at 10% until further notice. despite positive movement in the talks, gaps remain, including major differences in how china levees feeds on u.s. exports of natural gas, autos, and agriculture products. the latter of which subject to a 70% tariff. the president said he would ask china to remove those levies since he didn't increase tariffs to 25% on march 1. amid the progress, there is still healthy skepticism. >> we want a verifiable agreement that will have massive retaliation if they don't live up to the deal because every promise china has ever made, they violate. they've never lived up to any of this. we have been talking with them for 30 years.
>> the president is facing a potential revolt on capitol hill among seven republicans over his decisions of clara national regency over his long promised border wall. rand paul is the latest to break ranks, saying that he will support a measure to restrict the president's use of executive power, a move that will force president trump to use his veto pen for the very first time. >> i will vote for the motion to disapprove of this, and i will continue to speak out. i do believe that there is at least ten republican no votes. we will see, possibly more. >> senate majority leader mitch mcconnell will likely bring about on the resolution to the floor, probably before the 15th of march recess. we are told by our chad pergram and will likely happen on the 14th. democrats could try to override a possible veto but to get that done, they need 67 votes. our sources tell us they don't have anywhere near that many right now, bret. >> bret: kevin corke live on
the north lawn. new movement in the ever-changing, ever increasing democratic presidential primary field. former governor and a big city mayor is in. former obama administration attorney general is not. the front runner among declared candidates seeking to solidify his socialist credentials. correspondent peter doocy shows us where things stand tonight. >> the first wave of 2020 candidates came from congress. the next wave is coming from state houses. >> i am john hickenlooper. i am running for president because we are facing a crisis that threatens everything we stand for. >> the former colorado governor joins a field where many of the most excited primary voters have made up their minds. this weekend, 12,500 screaming fans turned out in chicago not to cheer for the sports teams but for bernie. >> three years ago they thought we were kind of crazy and extreme. not the case anymore.
>> senator sanders took his democratic socialist pitch to the radio where he pledged to legalize pot. >> have you ever smoked? >> a few times. didn't do a whole lot for me. >> the 2020 field won't include former attorney general eric holder who wants to focus on redistricting and rights in "the washington post" in devaluing potential nominees, we should remember the creativity is not limited to the young, nor wisdom to those who are older. we must measure our candidates not by their age but the vitality of their ideas. some of those ideas were on display in selma, alabama. >> we are failing our moral obligation when right here in selma, too many children are dying due to gun violence and how easy these guns are getting in our streets. >> in selma, 2020 candidate and new jersey senator cory booker was seen hugging the 2016 know many hillary clinton whose family brand is apparently fading. the ap reports her husband about once a top surrogate, likely
will be next year because "so far none of the parties early front runners have had a formal meeting with clinton, nor have the women who are running an historically diverse primary field." ohio senator sherrod brown says he's two or three weeks away from a decision on the campaign and have a chance to check in with hillary in selma but passed. >> did senator clinton give you any advice? >> no. >> "wall street journal" nbc news poll finds president trump begins his reelection effort with 4 out of 10 voters saying they will definitely or probably vote for him. the president has 16 months or try to improve that number before democrats even nominate a challenger. bret. >> bret: peter, thank you. rescuers digging through rubble right now. of what is left of a rural alabama community. at least 23 people were killed as a powerful tornado ripped through parts of lee county near the georgia line. correspondent jonathan serrie is
there tonight. >> the day after the storm, search teams combed through the worst hit communities that were either too dangerous or impossible to reach overnight. >> we are here today to stand with you today, tomorrow, and the days and weeks. >> the national weather service believes that with your that came through yesterday with a powerful ef4. winds of 174 miles an hour. speak of the deadliest tornado in the united states since the oklahoma tornado in 2013. >> a young girl embraces her grandmother who survived the storm by taking cover in an interior closet. other survivors share similar stories. >> i was in my room and i tried to go, the whole top of the house. i started praying. >> intends winds toppled the cell tower, blocking portions of the highway. the storm system knocked out power to more than 40,000 homes and businesses across alabama and georgia. it caused damage in
south carolina and the florida panhandle, toppling trees and utility poles but by far the worst damage was in eastern alabama. >> we pledge our unwavering support to help you rebuild from the very depths of this horrible tragedy. >> the white house and congress offered condolences and assistance. house speaker nancy pelosi said congress will stand by the families reeling from the tragedy and will fight to help this community recover and rebuild. >> it is -- as the sun sets over lee county, alabama, you can see cleanup efforts are well underw. while the physical damage is extensive, the human toll has been devastating. among those 23 confirmed fatalities are at least three children, ages 6, 9, and 10. >> bret: horrible story. jonathan serrie live in alabama tonight. thank you. up next, i says terrorists make what appears to be their last stand against u.s.-backed forces in eastern syria.
first, here's what some of our fox affiliates on the country are covering tonight. talk to train and tempt us go, thousands of oakland teachers are back in the classroom after union members voted to approve a contract deal giving them 11% raises and a one-time 3% bonus. the deal was reached after 3,000 teachers went on strike februar. the school board says it needs to make $21 million in cuts elsewhere to remain fiscally solvent. fox 2 in st. louis. a gas line ruptured sunday morning in central missouri. state troopers had the pipeline longs to panhandle eastern pipeline company. part of highway 151-mile north of the city of mexico was closed. no injuries have been reported. live look at denver from our affiliate fox 31. one of the big stories there tonight, an avalanche rolling through 10-mile canyon at interstate 70 was captured on camera sunday. a plume of snow can be seen covering the highway between frisco and copper mountain. the state transportation apartments is not enough snow
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>> bret: house democrats drafting a resolution condemning anti-semitism. they plan to introduce it on the floor later this week. the action comes in the wake of controversial comments made by minnesota freshman democrat congresswoman ilhan omar. she is accused of prominent lobbying group of paying members of congress to support israel. over the weekend, she tweeted "i'm told every day that i am anti-american if i am not pro israel. i find that to be problematic and i'm not alone. i just happen to be willing to speak up on it and open myself to attacks." a senior house democratic aide tells fox news it's not clear whether the resolution will specifically condemn omar's remarks in the text of the measure is not final. lawmakers plan to present it wednesday. overseas now, actually in our region, venezuela's opposition leader is back home, one wino is recognized by the u.s. in dozens of other countries as venezuela's interim president. juan guaido appeared at an antigovernment rally, urging
followers to i -- last week, guaido visited several latin american countries that support his campaign against maduro. isis fighters in eastern syria, hundreds of -- there are complications. our correspondent tells us from the middle east newsroom. >> the battle against isis reaches on in the syrian city. syria democratic forces say they are days away from defeating the last isis enclave. hundreds of civilians trapped amongst intense fighting. liberating the stretch of land is proving difficult. >> islamic state trying to use booby-traps. more than ten booby-traps including ten car bombs try to approach our forces but we
destroyed them. in general, it's terrorist organizations using booby-traps, landmines, and tunnels. >> while many isis militants are putting up one last fight, democratic forces say 500 people left the city today. around 150 are believed to be isis members. rebel activists reported 200 more people are expected to leave isis territory before the end of the day. over the weekend, the united nations expressed concern about 13,000 civilians who fled isis territory in the past week. 90% of the refugees who arrived at their camp in northern syria were women and children. >> many of them have arrived exhausted, hungry, sick. a large number continue to arrive on a daily basis. the site is operating well above capacity. >> while this battle is coming to an end, isis militants are gathering in the syrian city of idlib.
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a judge dealt her a setback today. correspondent doug mckelway is going to tell us why. >> good evening. former university of alabama student who joined isis has lost her first court battle. a lawyer for 24-year-old koda muthana today asked for an emergency consideration to return her to the united states. a federal judge was unpersuaded by the alleged risk she faces, saying he will proceed on the normal track. >> disappointed but understand the judge's ruling, initial ruling focusing on whether there is harm. >> in 2014, muthana used her college tuition divide airfare to turkey, then to syria. she married an isis fighter and then another. both were killed in combat. she used social media to urge americans to kill their fellow citizens by mowing them down with automobiles. now, she claims to have been brainwashed, to have burned her passport. she claims she is a united states citizen. >> i was only 19 when i made my
decision. people, when they are young, they make very big stupid mistakes. >> the united states government says she's not a citizen. >> all i can say is what i've been informed and that's the position we take. just as a general proposition, americans can renounce their citizenship by their words and by their actions, aligning with foreign powers. >> muthana's father served here as it yeah many diplomat. while children of diplomats are not eligible for citizens, muthana's father claimed she was born after he left the united nations when he was a naturalized u.s. citizen. if muthana wins and returns to the u.s., she would mostly face trial in the u.s., as have many terrorists.
>> bret: thank you. tonight examine concerns by some of the right about the u.s. supreme court. chief justice john roberts was appointed by a republican president but some conservatives are now worried he may be drifting permanently to the left to balance the court. just last week, he sided with the court's liberal wing and a pair of cases, including the death penalty appeal, something that is occurring with greater frequency. tonight fox news chief legal correspondent and anchor of fox news that night shannon bream takes a look at the roberts record. >> some days are better than others. >> chief justice of the united states, first among equals, caught on the political spotlight he said assiduously try to avoid. on a range of hot button issues, john roberts in recent weeks to sided with his four more liberal colleagues, including a february vote to block enforcement of a restrictive louisiana law on abortion clinic access. last week he ruled for a death row inmate over his right-leaning callings objections. it's the latest sign the 64-year-old roberts is hitting the pause button on the conservative full-court press
issued invite president trump after nominating justices neil gorsuch and brett kavanaugh. >> incrementalist minimalist strategy. whatever you are hoping for or fearing in your preferred area of law, this court is not going to move with giant steps. >> since november, the votes have proved decisive half a dozen times. issues like immigration asylum and transgenders in the military. while these votes do not yet go to the merits of the larger issues, they signal roberts' shaky place in the courts metal as the so-called swing justice, unofficial title he inherited for now when anthony kennedy retired. the chief has not explained why he has taken a cautious go slow approach, leaving the current docket free of high-profile disputes, including daca, indiana abortion restrictions and lgbt workplace determination. people say it might be a pattern of strategic avoidance. he has talked about keeping the judiciary of partisan sniping.
>> people need to know we are not doing politics. the need to know we are doing something different, that we are applying the law. >> the chief justice's relationship with president trump has not been without friction. the two engaged in a public spat last november after the president criticized his immigration ruling made by what he called on obama judge. in a statement, roberts strongly defended the integrity of the federal bench, prompting more twitter pushback from the president. >> bret: shannon, thank you. sad news in the entertainment world. actor luke perry has died. the star of tv shows beverly hills 90210 and riverdale suffered a massive stroke. he had been hospitalized since last week. the ohio native appeared in the number of films, including "buffy the vampire slayer" and the hbo prison drama oz. the publicist says his family and friends were with him when he died.
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♪ >> we'll be issuing document requests to over 60 different people and individuals from the white house to the department of justice, donald trump jr., allen weisselberg, to begin investigations to present the case to the american people about obstruction of justice, corruption, and abuse of power. >> i cooperate all the time with everybody. you know the beautiful thing. no collusion. it's all a hoax. it's a political hoax. >> nadler is setting the framework of the democrats not to believe the mueller report. same we have to do our own investigation. >> bret: 81 individuals, agencies, entities tied to president trump received a flurry of letters to demanding
documents. take a look at some of them. 25 of the 81 individuals getting these letters today from the judiciary committee under democrat control. ranking member on that committee as you do statement. "we don't even know what the mueller report says but democrats are already hedging their bets after recklessly prejudging the president for obstruction, chairman nadler is pursuing evidence to back up his conclusion because as he admits we don't have the facts yet." we will start there with the news of the day. let's bring in the panel. chris stirewalt, politics editor at fox news. katie pavlich, news editor at townhall.com. jim messina, democratic strategist and ceo of the messina group. jim, when you listen to nadler over the weekend on the sunday shows and he said i've reached a conclusion that the president has obstruction of justice and then the follow-up is why not move forward with impeachment now? he says well, we have to lay out the case to the american people. what do you think of that? is it the cart before the horse? >> i think it's smart.
democrats are being careful. they've learned some lessons from the republicans in the '90s when they impeached president clinton. they don't want to go down that road. they want to build a compelling case. i got a bunch of these letters on my first day, lawyers thing we're going to look into this stuff. balance of power in the house is going to look deeply at this and they showed. 34 members of president trump's campaign or clear circle -- close circle have been indicted. >> they should have learned lessons about impeachment but it seems like the ball head has been moved off the field when it comes to democrats and what they want to know. they want to know about russian collusion. then they criticized anyone who dared to go after or question the credibility of robert miller and the people who who he had working with him. we haven't heard calls for a while about passing legislation legislation to protect the
special counsel investigation. now the democrats don't seem to be getting what they want when it comes to information. there's a proper role for congress when it comes to oversight. this is not about investigating government scandals like operation fast and furious where the irs targeting conservatives. it's about going after president trump personally using congress and house committees with subpoenas to open up a treasure trove of opposition research for 2020 candidates. the truth is impeachment might be good in the primaries but it's not going to be good in a general election. >> bret: that's the question. it's a political process. it's not a criminal endeavor. it's a political process. latest polls on the president's job performance, it's up from january from 43 to 46%. disapproval, 52. is there a risk-reward moment for democrats where they have to decide, do we go down this road fully or look to make our mark legislatively? >> don't under appreciate the
degree to which avoiding another government shutdown work for trump's favor and don't under appreciate the degree to which having a focus on democrats, in virginia or the green new deal or it's not been a run of good weeks for democrats in terms of the narrative. i would say keep a prayer and keep some passivity for jerry nadler. he's a serious person trying to do his serious job but he has on his committee people who want to be more radical and aggressive than he is. he is riding a tiger. he needs to show his members i am on the case. we are being diligent and aggressive. but he wants to keep them at bay so they don't do what katie is talking about where you have -- nancy pelosi and jerry nadler do not want to impeach trump unless they absolutely have to. >> bret: hearers jerry nadler on the mueller investigation. >> they can be crimes and nonimpeachable offenses and impeachable offenses that are not crimes. we have to lay out for the erect
people and we can't depend on the mueller investigation for this. the mueller investigation, number one we don't know when it's ending despite lots of rumors. number two, is focused on specific crimes. >> bret: does it sound to you, jim, that they have a feeling that mueller's not going to deliver what they want? >> everyone on both sides is deciding what the mueller report is going to say and it isn't out. when we sit back and let the mueller report come out and then figure out what to do next. the obstruction stuff, it's a different set of questions that they are going to look at. >> bret: we say that all the time. we don't know what we don't know. it could happen soon but we can't put a date on it. there are other things going on. southern district of new york. other investigations. >> there's plenty we do not know and republicans or democrats should not decide what they think is going to be in the mueller probe. the problem for democrats as they put everything on this.
we've been hearing about russian collusion for months, that there was evidence of this which is why robert miller had to be protected. that's what he's investigating. collusion. the fact is robert mueller isn't investigating collusion because collusion isn't a crime under the statutes he's investigating. conspiracy. people are using the word collusion. the terms matter. when it comes to subpoenas issued, it's not about corruption and the government and corruption in washington, d.c. it's about personal entities of the presidents. they want his tax returns. they want to go after ivanka trump. they want to go after donald trump jr. every single personal issue the president may have that they can use on the campaign trail against him to beat him in 2020. when it comes to that line, it's going to be interesting to see how much democrats can get done legislatively when all their time is being spent investigating personal finances of a president they simply don't like. >> bret: there are some investigations like the emoluments clause and whether
the president is using his office in some way, shape, or form to make money, where they intersect, the personal and the president. i want to turn to the emergency declaration. rand paul coming out saying he's going to vote against this resolution. he's going to vote for the resolution that says they should not be a national emergency declaration by the president. >> i think it's easy to argue that this emergency order, this executive order goes against the will of congress. not all congress but the majority of congress that passed the appropriation bill. >> i spoke to the president last night and we had a good discussion. he says he understands where i'm coming from and he didn't tell me we would never play golf again. it isn't about president trump. it's about the division of power for me. >> bret: there are four republicans saying that they are against the president saying that there should be an emergency declared at the border.
the problem for them and democrats who support the measure is that the president has threatened to veto it. they are not going to have 67 votes. >> suite vast, rand paul. solid. number two, it matters an illegal sense because as you go to court, the president asked give me the money for the thing i want to. congress said no. and then they're going to come back and say we specifically denounce the activity you are taking. he's going to veto it and he's going to go ahead. as the courts look at it, it's not going to be ambiguous what congress thinks. the other thing is this is a first. it will be the first time republicans in congress have given trump the ea. mitt romney, ben sasse, mike lee and others who stand up for separation of powers, it isn't about the issue. it's not about what you think. it's about the division of powers. >> bret: next app, hickenlooper is in.
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drives me. i'm running for president because we need to get things done. i have proven again and again i can bring people together to produce the progressive change washington has failed to deliver. >> bret: john hickenlooper, former colorado governor, former denver mayor in the race. eric holder is not in the race. are you keeping track at home. here is the panel of possibilities. declared, exploratory, possible. there is a long list of possibles. over under for the number of candidates? >> i think about 20 going to iowa and new hampshire. >> bret: is this purity on the progressive side, that driving force in the party or is it beating donald trump? >> it's beating donald trump 861% of democrats say the most important issue is beating donald trump. i spoke to the 100 biggest
democratic fund-raisers in america last week in miami. four of them have made a decision on who they are with. people are sitting out waiting to figure out who's in the race. hickenlooper is interesting. he thinks he's running for president. he's running for u.s. senate. he hasn't figured it out yet. there's a few people, him, the man from montana, beto. the democrats need to run for senate if they want to take over the senate and they don't need another long shot candidate in the race for president. i think beto is running for president and if i was him, i would. >> chuck schumer is going to have a problem with his senators being unavailable because they will be on the campaign trail. john hickenlooper's message is one with her before and the tea party movement really started this which is washington is not working. we are on the outside looking in and we want change. he has some credibility, being the governor of colorado. someone like elizabeth warren or kirsten gillibrand who says those things and there have been
in washington, d.c., for a long time, don't have as much credibility now. in a primaried that's dividing up the democratic party and has a far left bench, it's going to be difficult for him to get out on the green issue considering he drank fracking water to prove it was pure enough. he is on the side of oil and gas, which is an union issue, which might be good. issues they're going to have to debate on policies. >> bret: real clear politics average so far, the biggest name we don't know, the decision of joe biden. it's early and things shift but this is the early since going in. >> this is a name identification poll, these are the famous war -- people who are most famous. hickenlooper is fun to say. everyone likes to say hickenlooper. he is sort of a beto sr., he's about bringing people together and connection and listening. he had a band also when he was younger and he is a brewer so
he's a cool guy. he did not skateboard, that's true. they did legalize pot in colorado while he was governor. there's a change, there is a moderate lane for democrats and what it takes for that to happen is that the progressive wing of the party has to divide itself into so many subgroups that you could see democrats doing what they did in '92 which is someone like bill clinton, a governor who isn't part of the discussion could slingshot passed if the democrats divide themselves on the left into many pieces. >> another example that happened with donald trump on the republican side. >> bret: i want to ask you, the nbc poll 6. capitalism, socialism. this seems to be obviously a focus of the trump campaign to be about trying to peg democrats on the socialist scale. how, with aoc and the green new deal and other things, do democrats get around that issue, considering the breakdown of
socialism, especially in the democratic party. >> the way you win a presidential campaign, 270 electoral votes, having an economic message that can appeal to middle american voters in the swing states. right now, democrats are defined by one thing and one thing only length or hatred of donald trump. we've got to continue to build an economic message that can be competitive in the general election. i think we are starting to do that. that's how bill clinton won twice and barack obama won twice and that's how donald trump beat hillary clinton. >> bret: thank you. when we come back, the heroic rescue of an american symbol. nice. but, uh... what's up with your... partner? oh. well, we just spend all day telling everyone how we customize car insurance, because no two people are alike, so... limu gets a little confused when he sees another bird that looks exactly like him. [ loud crash ] yeah. he'll figure it out. only pay for what you need.
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the fire chief said it was worth the risk as the flag is a symbol of hope. that's it for "special report." fair, balanced and unafraid. "the story with martha maccallum" starts now. >> martha: thanks. a story exclusive. interview with the man behind the effort to bring the isis bride back to alabama. we will talk to him. they are suing secretary mike pompeo and breaking news on that case. and the new attorney generals he won't recuse from the mueller investigation. those stories are coming up tonight. the house judiciary sent a letter to 81 trump associates demanding information, an interesting line reminding the recipients that this committee played a historic role for hearings on the abuse of