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i'm going to see you on "bulls & bears" on the fox business network weekdays, 5:00 p.m. eastern. keep it here on fox for now. here's leland and kristin. house democrats in a barrage of investigations including 81 requests from the judiciary committee this week alone. what president trump says about it. >> and ilhan omar in hot water again this time over comments that she made to a reporter about president obama. this as democrats have a week of division over how to handle her controversial tweets about jews. >> a new proposal from democrats on the 2020 trail. where they are and new attacks on bernie sanders by the clinton campaign.
leland: welcome to america's news headquarters from washington. over your jet lag yet? kristin: not quite. i feel like i'm still dealing with it. leland: great work there. nice to be with you. nice to be with you at home. kristin: former trump campaign chairman paul manafort was sentenced to 47 months in prison this week but manafort will face a second sentencing on wednesday, where he could face even more time added to his sentence. garrett tenney is joining us with more. gosh, 47 months, that's a long time but not nearly as long as what it could have been. >> 47 months and he turns 70 next month. so it's a long time but it's also possible that next week he faces no additional time. that will be interesting to see. he will face that second sentencing this week for charges of conspiracy against the united states. he pleaded guilty to those charges back in september. he's facing another ten years in prison according to sentencing guidelines but like we saw this past week, the judge could decide to give him much less time than that.
judge amy berman-jackson could also add to the 47 months he was already sentenced to, or decide to have them run concurrently. while we wait on that, house republicans also have a lot of new questions for former trump attorney michael cohen, after fox news learned that staffer democratic congressman adam schiff traveled to new york at least four times to meet with cohen before his public testimony last month. he met with him for more than ten hours to discuss his testimony. two sources familiar with the matter told fox news schiff's staff discussed a wide range of topics including the "national enquirer's" catch and kill policy, david pecker and the alleged undervaluing of president trump's assets, all of which were raised by democrats during cohen's public testimony. here's republican congressman mike turner, who is demanding answers from cohen's legal team. >> these happened behind closed doors, solely with democrat schiff's staff. no one else was present at the
time. over ten hours of work with michael cohen before he came out and publicly testified. i think the public deserves answers as to what happened during these sessions, what was discussed. >> a house intelligence committee spokesman defended the meetings with cohen, telling fox news despite this professed outrage by republicans, it's completely appropriate to conduct proper sessions and allow witnesses to review their prior testimony before the committee interviews them. such sessions are a routine part of every serious investigation around the country, including congressional investigations. in addition to all of this, there's the looming mueller report which is believed to be coming to a close and that might sound like a broken record. we have been hearing it for more than a year now but sources close to the probe say it is wrapping up. kristin: it really is winding down now. all right. we'll see. garrett tenney, thank you so much. for more let's bring in arizona congressman andy biggs. thanks for coming on today. so let's start with something that garrett tenney was just talking about, the idea or the report that adam schiff's staff
had coached michael cohen before his big public testimony last week. democrats are saying that that's normal, that that's simply what you do. do you agree with that? >> well, there is a normal meeting that takes place, it's usually rather perfunctory but what's happened here is the reports are multiple trips to new york by staffers and up to ten hours of prep work. that really is not normal. that might be excessive. we need to get to the bottom of it and find out what really happened there. kristin: lot of folks here in washington believe that this marathon testimony of michael cohen over the last week or so has really just been the start of what could be the beginning of an attempt to impeach president trump. so many investigations now going on, being led by the house democrats, and they say they are simply doing their job of congressional oversight, but you say that they are abusing their power? >> yeah, i would assert that they are abusing the power and
the first piece of evidence would be the letter that mr. nadler, the chairman, sent out where he said we are now going to craft basically a public persona of this and i'm not quoting, just kind of extrapolating what he said. what i think he's doing is he's moving to this notion of changing the narrative, he's trying to expand the narrative, and then that moves into what he's done is basically invite anyone, anyone from julian assange to michael cohen yet again, and that is really overly broad and doesn't make sense to most of us looking at it objectively, trying to be objective. kristin: the charges they are investigating are serious. are there one or two investigations you can point to you think are justified? >> well, when you start talking about obstruction of justice, first thing you do, you look to see was there a crime, was there
something going on that this person was actually obstructing. so we haven't seen that. the mueller report doesn't come out yet and if there's something there, maybe we will see something but i haven't seen that so far. but the other stuff then becomes an attempted obstruction of justice which is impossible to have. so it becomes very broad and so what i'm seeing they're doing is they are actually investigating people instead of investigating a potential crime and that's really not the way it's normally done. kristin: i would like to switch gears quickly and talk about one of the other things that's really been consuming the house this week, and that is congresswoman omar's tweets about jews. the house put forward a vote, they voted on an anti-hate resolution but you decided to vote against it. why? >> well, you know, i have a background in social science and what we do is try to isolate the variable. in other words, we are trying to find out the cause. we know what the cause was. we know why the resolution came forward. it was because of ilhan omar's
series of anti-semitic remarks. and when you have that and you bury the cause in basically kind of a world peace type of resolution, then you effectively minimize and hide the real problem. the real problem is not we all condemn these things, it's that ilhan omar has displayed anti-semitic rhetoric that needs to stop. kristin: so even though this was a vote for resolution, anti-hate, you vote against it because you say it wasn't -- it was too broad, it wasn't specific enough, it had been watered down too much, but isn't a vote against hate still a vote against hate? isn't that a good thing? >> well, look, i said this on the floor, i despise anti-semitism and antiislamophobia and they added everything on there but they didn't add, you know, they added a whole bunch of things but when you water it down like that, you are effectively letting the
person who has caused this problem, you are letting her off the hook. you are no longer isolating that variable, no longer saying she's the reason we're here, she's anti-semitic or at least has indicated that by making repeated references that have brought disdain and criticism from her own party as well as people from my side, and i just, i don't think that's the right approach here is to say okay, everybody needs to be nicer. we all know that. that's a given. what you have to do is you have to isolate the person who is causing the problem, and identify them and say you need to correct it and she refused to apologize this time even. kristin: congressman, got to leave it there. thank you so much. >> thanks. welcome back. leland: a fox news alert. live pictures from des moines, iowa. boy, we are a long way from november 2020 and already, they are on the trail. senator bernie sanders holding a campaign event at the iowa state fairgrounds. listen in for a minute. >> -- starvation wages.
here in iowa and in states throughout this country, there are working people trying to make it on $8, $9, $10 an hour and you know what, you cannot live in dignity on $8, $9, $10 an hour. so yes, we are going to raise the minimum wage in this country to a living wage, $15 an hour. and yes, because we understand that unions are the means by which workers have dignity on the job, we are going to make it easier for workers to join
unions, not harder. and i want to give you some really good news. which is taking place as we speak. four years ago when i was here in des moines and we talked about the idea of raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour, it seemed like an impossible dream. that's more than double where the minimum wage in washington is right now. well, since then, i am proud to tell you that five states in this country have already raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour. leland: bernie sanders with tidbits from his usual stump speech on the trail in des moines, iowa. hearing from reporters on the ground that a number of his events actually have overflow crowds that he's going to speak to before the main speech. he is not the only one out on the trail this weekend. amy klobuchar along with elizabeth warren are at the
south by southwest festival in austin, texas. bernie sanders, as you just saw, in iowa. john hickenlooper, former governor of iowa, there as well. we have the roundup of what they're saying on the trail. reporter: it will be a packed day for democratic presidential hopefuls who are all running campaigns with a strong message, to beat trump in 2020. we begin in iowa. that's where you just saw bernie sanders is campaigning at the state fairgrounds in des moines. this is his third campaign event in iowa, where he also campaigned earlier in the week in council bluffs and iowa city. sanders going heavily after younger voters, especially those who have taken out loans for college. >> how many of you here now are dealing with student debt? yeah. the crime you committed was that you decided to get the best education. let me be very clear. as president, we are going to
substantially lower student debt in this country. reporter: in austin texas, democrats are targeting voters at south by southwest. senator amy klobuchar is speaking at the festival, conversation about america's future, right now. senator elizabeth warren will also hit the stage a few hours later. warren was just in queens today, where she took aim at the relationship between government and big tech, specifically companies like amazon. >> i want a government that isn't here to work for giant tech companies. i want a government that's here to work for the people. and today, i made a down payment on that. it is time to break up america's tech giants. reporter: texas congressman beto o'rourke will also be at south by southwest for the premiere of a documentary about his senate race and the loss to senator ted
cruz. former mayor julian castro and former colorado governor john hickenlooper and washington governor jay inslee will speak at the festival on sunday. elsewhere in the country, california senator kamala harris is campaigning in south carolina. leland? leland: that's a long list and will get longer over the coming weeks and month. jeff paul in los angeles, thanks. more on that with the panel. meantime, after a rough week, representative ilhan omar now deleting a tweet accusing a journalist of twisting her words during an interview. in that interview, she criticized president obama on a wide range of issues. omar released audio of that conversation in this tweet saying exhibit a of how reporters distort words, i'm an obama fan, i was saying how trump is different from obama and why we should focus on policy, not politics. this is why i always tape my interviews. with that, we bring in harvard law professor emeritus allan dershowitz.
nice to see you, sir. this is not the first tweet congresswoman omar had to delete. an anti-israel tweet took six plus years to delete. is this your democratic party anymore? >> not my democratic party. [ inaudible ] make sure the democrats return to the centrist positions that got them elected under bill clinton and others. i think the democrats made a terrible, terrible mistake by refusing to condemn anti-semitism and refusing to name congresswoman omar. compare that to the black lives movement. when the black lives movement began, some said no, no, let's make it all lives matter. people said oh, my god, that would be racist to exclude black lives matter. that's the issue with black lives. the same is true with omar. no member of congress has made anti-muslim statements but omar has made anti-semitic statements. it was appropriate for congress
unanimously to condemn anti-semitism without watering it down by including every other ism in the world. what's good for black lives matter is good for jews. leland: you make a point, in terms of not only calling her out by name but the leaders of the democratic party almost seem afraid of her and other freshmen to the far radical left. nancy pelosi wouldn't even call on her to apologize, then it appear appeared, defended her. take a listen. we will get your response. >> the incident that happened, i don't think our colleague is anti-semitic. i think she has a different experience and use of words, doesn't understand that some of them are fraught with meaning that she didn't realize. leland: wow. what a defense attorney. >> a southerner who might have had different experiences and was justifying the use of the confederate flag. you cannot make excuses. omar is an anti-semite.
she has been an anti-semite all of her life. the statements she made recently are statements she makes to all of her friends all of the time in private. she just made the mistake of making them in public. she has to be called out. elizabeth warren has to be called out for supporting her and defending her. and senator sanders has to be called out. and all the radical left members of the democratic party -- leland: the question, though, professor -- >> -- have to be called out. leland: i guess the question, you can bring up england, it was jeremy corbyn and alexandria ocasio-cortez who seemed to be finding new long-lost friendship ties here. the question is you keep saying they need to be called out, but they're not being called out. they're not even being called out by the mainstream of the democratic party. it was deutch and elliott engel from foreign affairs committee who called them out and one of them was forced to almost apologize by calling her out by
name, this being ilhan omar. the question is, is there a democratic party that is okay with this or have they left you rather than you leaving them? >> well, they are in the process of leaving me and leaving many, many other good people, jewish, christian, and even muslims who can't tolerate this kind of anti-semitism. we don't want to see the american democratic party turned into corbyn's labour party. first, it will lose, lose, lose. this is a losing strategy. it may be a winning strategy for winning a primary somewhere in the bronx or in michigan or minnesota, but it is a losing primary when it comes to statewide elections or presidential elections. so for the sake of the democratic party which i have been a member of for 50 something more years, and for the sake of justice and for the sake of fairness, and racial equality, we have to call them out. i will continue to call them out. i would hope some democrats would start calling them out. some have. some have begun to call them out. but we need more.
we need the democratic party, we need the leadership of the democratic party to call them out. and i wonder why -- leland: at least so far, nobody in leadership has called them out, especially recently as we just heard from nancy pelosi's statement on the issue. professor, always good to see you. appreciate you taking time on a saturday. >> thank you. leland: thank you. kristin? kristin: president trump set to release his 2020 budget proposal on monday. the blueprint is expected to call for a decrease in domestic spending but a big boost for defense. jillian turner is live with all the details. something tells me democrats on capitol hill are not going to love this. reporter: your hunch is correct. the budget is going to come out on monday, just two days from now, and also, a month past the statutory deadline. the white house blames that delay on the partial government shutdown that lasted five weeks, but no one seems to be paying close attention to that. greasing the skids for the rollout, the president gave the state of the national economy a glowing review just yesterday.
>> the economy is very, very strong. if you look at the stock market over the last few months it's been great and certainly since my election, it's up getting close to 50%, the stock market. so we're obviously very happy balance the budget by 2034, 15 years from now. and that the president will stick with strict spending caps imposed years ago despite the fact that lawmakers have consistently found work-around with their own special budget deals. the speaker of the house says she's unimpressed with the plan and last year's trump tax cuts need to go. >> this has to be revisited, not just because of the unfairness of it, but also the impact that it has on the budget and what it means in terms of meeting the needs of the american people, whether it's investing in education, building an economy for the jobs for the 21st
century, innovation, allaying fears of globalization and innovation, what it means to america's workers. reporter: the president earmarked $750 billion for the defense spending that includes backfill funds for the border wall. he believes under the current proposal he would have enough money to complete the wall by the end of 2020. overall, the plan increases requests for some agencies and cutbacks on others, most notably the epa. next step for the budget, it goes to the house and senate and capitol hill insiders say they are unlikely -- they are likely, excuse me, to end up debating the president's proposal until the next spending deadline which is october 1st. so this means yet another government shutdown now looms just a couple of months away. we all have something to look forward to. kristin: just what i wanted to hear. good news. leland: coming up, jussie smollett is back in more trouble. the new charges against the "empire" actor. and border patrol officers dealing with a surge along the southern border. what a former i.c.e. official
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kristin: a cook county grand jury has indicted actor jussie smollett on 16 felony charges in connection to that alleged assault that authorities say smollett may have staged. we are live in new york with the latest. reporter: yeah, the "empire" actor got 16 felony counts, eight from what he told the officer who initially took that report, and eight from what he later told a detective. a little more than two weeks after prosecutors announced one felony count for disorderly conduct for making a false police report. smollett's attorney said he didn't expect a grand jury would bring 16 separate counts calling it overkill, and claiming it was an attempt to distract people from the leaking of false information by the chicago police department. smollett, who is black and openly gay, told police back in january he was the victim of a hate crime. he claimed he was attacked by two masked men as he headed home from a subway restaurant claiming they beat him, poured a chemical on him and said
homophobic and racial slurs. he also says the men put a rope around his neck and shouted "this is maga country." a reference to president trump's campaign. police say the 36-year-old staged the attack and paid two brothers $3500 to carry it out. smollett maintains his innocence. >> what is happening here is frankly a media gang bang of this guy, of unprecedented proportions and that's the reason i got into this. i have never seen a media pendulum swing more quickly and more viciously and rob somebody of their presumption of innocence like this case. reporter: chicago police said smollett took advantage of the pain and anger of racism to promote his career, saying he was unhappy with his pay. producers of his show "empire" removed his character from the last couple episodes of the season to prevent further distractions on set. each count he faces is a class 4 felony and if convicted, he could face up to three years in
prison. he is set to be arraigned on march 14th. kristin: thank you. later in the show, a chicago-based federal prosecutor will join us to talk about all of these latest developments and what's next for smollett. leland? leland: fox news alert, also out of chicago, live pictures there. we have seen this shot a lot, the exit from the jail there in cook county. we are not waiting for jussie smollett. he's out of jail. but r. kelly, the r & b singer who has had numerous charges against him for sexual misconduct, was back in jail for a hearing over child support. he was arrested a couple of days ago. his publicist says now the $161,000 in back child support, he was owed, has been paid. we will obviously keep an eye on that live picture there at the cook county jail and bring it to you as he walks out. see if r. kelly has anything to say for him. he certainly had a lot to say on cbs. kristin: i can't get over that
interview, and that moment with gayle king was incredible. leland: not only that, but how gayle king handled it, pretty impressive. coming up, will representative ilhan omar's questionable, some say anti-semitic comments, hurt democrats nationwide? and president trump down in mar-a-lago for the weekend at his golf club right now, after a federal judge issues a new legal challenge. we are standing by in west palm beach with the latest. reporter: that judge issued an order telling the administration to reunite 2800 migrant families who were separated at the u.s./mexico border a couple months ago. now the latest ruling could impact thousands more. naysayer said no one would subscribe to a car the way they subscribe to movies. we don't follow the naysayers. ♪ ♪
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morning. authorities say the flight was heading for fort lauderdale when it made an emergency landing because of a possible fire in the cargo hold. you can see it sitting there out on the runway. an official for the port authority says two passengers reported minor injuries that were not related to the smoke. the cause of the smoke and the alarm as well, under investigation. kristin: president trump is spending the weekend in mar-a-lago after a federal judge in california ruled that the trump administration may have to reunite thousands of additional migrant families separated at the u.s. southern border. ellison barber joins us with the latest from west palm beach. reporter: yes, this judge previously ordered the trump administration to reunite about 2800 migrant families who were separated as a result of the administration's so-called zero tolerance policy. but then in january, an inspector general issued a report saying the department of
justice and department of homeland security actually began separating migrant families nearly a year before the zero tolerance policy was announced. the i.g. said that meant additional families were impacted, likely thousands of them. the aclu said those families should be allowed to join the previous class action lawsuit. u.s. district judge from southern california agreed, calling the i.g. report a significant development. he ruled in part quote, the hallmark of a civilized society is measured by how it treats its people and those within its borders. the defendant, meaning the government here, may have to change course and undertake additional effort to address these issues, does not render modifications of the class definition unfair. it only serves to underscore the unquestionable importance of the effort and why it is necessary and worthwhile. the white house has not responded to our request for comment on this ruling, but the president was asked about immigration more generally before leaving the white house yesterday. the president's decision to declare a national emergency in order to fund a border wall has divided the republican party,
with the senate expecting to pass a resolution of disapproval. the president could issue his very first veto, but as he was leaving the white house yesterday, he seemed relatively unfazed by it. >> we're apprehending record numbers of people, 75,000 over the last short period of time. that's a lot of work and with a wall, we wouldn't have to do it. no, i think we're doing fine in congress. they understand it's an emergency. reporter: the president is tweeting today, so far his first and only tweet was about immigration and the need for the border wall. kristin? kristin: thank you. we will be taking a much deeper dive on all of those issues coming up with the former acting director of i.c.e. lela leland? leland: as much as the white house wants to play offense heading into the re-election, they face an almost daily onslaught of new investigations by house democrats. document requests by the dozens. we bring in democratic strategist blake rutherford, friend of the show. welcome back, as always. you got this dichotomy there in what the president wants to be
talking about which is his border policy, how he can be tough on immigration, then you obviously have house democrats launching these investigations. no question that investigations play well with the base. certainly did when republicans tried to take on president obama. but do they, do the democrats worry about alienating the center that cares more about policy than they do the politics of document requests? >> i think it's a delicate balance. i don't think we would necessarily be here if the republicans had done their job the first two years that they held control of congress over president trump, the oversight function was really -- leland: you mean you're surprised republicans didn't subpoena the trump administration day in and day out? come on. >> no, i'm actually considering all the facts, i am surprised. i think you still have some good government republicans sitting on oversight. we saw that during the michael cohen hearings. of course the democrats need to get to the bottom of what has been almost a daily, you are exactly right, daily onslaught of problems coming out of this
administration. so there is a responsibility that the democrats have -- leland: when you listen to the democrats talk about it, especially those to the farther part of the left, it seems as though they have decided that they want to impeach president trump. we saw a couple of freshmen indicate that on day one, even before they had investigated anything. so it seems as if the old joseph stalin thing, show me the man and i will show you the crime. >> i respectfully disagree with you. leland: i'm sure you do. >> while some democrats have talked about impeachment, i think you have seen from the party as a whole, from leadership, that's not helpful. we are certainly not there. the democrats, i have said this before on your program, the democrats need to stop talking about impeachment. i think, though, there is a balance -- leland: but they're not. >> i think they are. i do. i really do. i think you also, you know, you've got to get your message out problem here that the democrats really are suffering
from. i talked to high-ranking democratic members who really do want policy to be at the forefront. it's gotten certainly in the last couple weeks overshadowed by what i would argue are some missteps. i think you are exactly right, to win in 2020, the democrats have to win on policy. we tried to win an anti-trump campaign and it didn't work. we know that. leland: one thing that has certainly overshadowed the past couple weeks for democrats is ilhan omar, the freshman congresswoman from minnesota. another freshman congresswoman, alexandria ocasio-cortez, defending omar. where is the outrage over the 23 gop members who voted no on a resolution condemning bigotry today, oh, there's none. did they get called out, raked over in the halls and relentlessly asked why not, no, okay. got it. there's a lot of back story to this. but it certainly does not play to what you were talking about of the leadership having control over the far left parts of the party. >> i do think that the freshmen
members of congress as a whole all have to be mindful of their rhetoric. there's a lot of media attention on them. words, especially tweets, as we know, can go viral in an instant and they have to think about that stuff and be reasonable and also be mindful of what their rhetoric, the impact that rhetoric can have. we are certainly seeing this become a problem for the democrats. leland: the fact this keeps happening and you seem to acknowledge it does keep happening and it's a problem, does that speak to the fact nancy pelosi has lost control of her own caucus, that she can't stop this? >> absolutely not. i can tell you that speaker pelosi is absolutely in control of her own caucus. can she control, you know, a member tweeting in an instant or getting an interview, of course not. she has a very large caucus and a lot going on. so i think it's very unfair to suggest that this is any reflection of the speaker at all. leland: she sure had a lot going on this week to deal with and a
lot of fires to put out. always appreciate your time. good to see you. enjoy new york city. we will welcome you back to the district. >> great to see you. thanks. leland: there you go. fox news sunday, chris wallace talks to white house economic adviser larry kudlow ahead of the president's big budget proposal coming out. check your local listings for time and channel. and bret baier talks about the dnc's decision to bar fox news from hosting a democratic presidential primary debate, 11:00 a.m. eastern. kristin: up next, the number of migrant families crossing the southern border is rising. we speak with a former i.c.e. official on what's needed to help secure the border amid the surge. >> i call it invasion. they always get upset when i say an invasion but it really is somewhat of an invasion. i don't keep track of regrets. and i don't add up the years. but what i do count on... is boost® delicious boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals.
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a federal judge overseeing the reunification of nearly 3,000 separated migrant families now says that the trump administration may need to reunite thousands of additional families that were forced apart at the southern border. for more on this let's bring in the former acting i.c.e. director and fox news contributor, thomas homan. thomas, real quick, what's your take on that ruling? >> i think it's unfortunate. i think it stinks of politics. why isn't the ruling to reunite the families that were separated under the obama administration? because it happened. why not reunite families who were separated under the clinton administration, the bush administration? border patrol has separated families for decades when there was no evidence, clear evidence, that that child was relative to that person claiming to be their parent. we know based on many cases, kids are trafficked. kids are rented by the cartels to adults because they know they come with a child, chance of
being detained is very low. we know based on the last 2500, 2700 separations, when that judge ordered the first to be reunited, we know 6% of those parents after dna testing weren't even the parents. border patrol is doing the right thing, trying to protect the child and there has been evidence and proof and cases where a child has been trafficked. it's about protecting the child. kristin: you think even though the government separated these families at the border, that they are not responsible for reuniting them with their families? >> no, they absolutely should be reunited after they do their court thing but i can say the general reason why they are separated before the zero tolerance policy was because there's no evidence that they were related. that was a major reason why they are separated. kristin: let's talk about this surge that we are seeing at the border, and we really got a ton of new numbers from the department of homeland security, secretary kirstjen nielsen this week when she testified on capitol hill. some of them, 76,000 migrants
apprehended at the southern border in february. most were families from central america and she also says that they are on track to apprehend nearly a million people crossing the border illegally. some pretty big numbers here. why are we seeing this surge now? >> i have said it for two years, this is not going to stop until congress closes the loopholes that entices people to come. we have been up on the hill many times as i.c.e. director, got to change the asylum rules. 92% of them that show up apply for asylum, lose their case. they don't qualify. it's asylum fraud. if you are a child from guatemala, honduras, you are treated the same as a child from mexico. once they decide you are not a victim of trafficking, remove them. there's different rules for children from central america. we have to be able to detain families in a family residential center, not a jail, long enough to see a judge. because most lose their cases. let me give you a clear example why they don't like this. in 2014, we built a family
detention center in mexico. we held families for 40, 45 days, they saw a judge, over 90% lost their cases. we put them on airplanes, sent them south. what do you think happened? the illegal crossing of families dramatically decreased. it wasn't until the ninth circuit said you can only detain them for 20 days, that's not enough time to see a judge. we know they will be released. i said during that litigation if you do this, it's going to result in a surge of families. i was called a fearmonger. guess what happened? less than 20 days, the number of families has skyrocketed because they know they won't be detained and won't see a judge. they get released into society to stay here forever. kristin: thomas homan, have to leave it there. thank you for coming on. leland? leland: coming up, new questions about ilhan omar's relationship with the jewish community and what her constituents are saying about it. plus, kristin fisher's favorite person, elon musk. the security clearance is under review by the pentagon. what does kristin have to say
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refuses to apologize? with that we bring in minnesota talk radio host andrew lee. good talking to you, sir. past couple of weeks, as folks have been calling in, anybody surprised by all this? >> surprised, no. with these views and representative omar's controversial takes on israel, have been known for a long time but the frustrating aspect of it is that while they were known, they weren't widely reported on. minnesota media tends to sort of gloss over a lot of these types of things. it's not until someone outside of minnesota starts reporting on aspects like this that it really starts to gain traction. it's been a combination of frustration and embarrassment for minnesota. leland: she certainly came to power, though, on the back of this progressive wave within the democratic party, the immigrant communities she represents, somali immigrants among others, also seen as very progressive. have any of her own constituents started to turn on her or is this sort of a wink and a nod,
saying you keep at it? >> i haven't gotten much indication that sort of the core of her district has started to turn on her yet. the party officials in minnesota have either been sort of quiet or sort of just gently wagging their finger at her, much like speaker pelosi does, saying she just doesn't understand what she's saying or the implications of her words. her district is one of the safest democrat districts in the entire country so i don't expect much backlash from the core of her base. leland: similar to alexandria ocasio-cortez. you talk about it being widely known. jewish leaders before her election to congress held what you might call essentially an intervention of sorts with ilhan omar. the newspaper there reporting on this extensively. here is the quote from the minnesota state senator who talked to her about this situation. most of us came out of that
conversation very troubled by the answers we received. i was not convinced she was going to give a balanced approach to policy in the middle east and i was not convinced where her heart is on these things. frankly, i was hopeful she would grow in office a little and understand the media platform she had. instead, she keeps repeating her mistakes, if you can call them that. is everybody convinced now after the third strike on anti-semitic comments that it's no longer a mistake? >> yes. this is who she is. her apologies haven't really been apologies. they have been more sort of explanations or justifications. speaker pelosi has come out and given sort of a justification for why she thinks the way she is. i think she's shown us who she is repeatedly so we should believe her. leland: taking her at face value, okay, doesn't seem as though it's going to be a problem in her district. real quickly, have minnesota republicans been able to make any headway with this or is it
too divided of a state for it to help them? >> this is not a very republican-friendly district. i don't expect that to change any time soon. the only challenge she might see would be in an upcoming primary and i do expect a significant primary challenge for her. leland: wonder if the jewish community will get behind a challenger there in minnesota. andrew lee, we will have you back to talk about it. doesn't sound like this will be the last we hear from her. thank you, sir. >> thank you for having me. leland: stay warm. kristin: coming up, elizabeth warren has a proposal to break up some of the biggest names in tech. we will tell you which companies she's targeting, coming up. first. y usa there's no money down, it's the best vehicle that a person who served in the military or is serving today has today to have a new home. if we can possibly get that veteran in a home we're going to do it at newday usa. why would you rent today when you can buy your own home and
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leland: and a fox news alert, that is r. kelly walking out of jail in chicago moments ago. the r&b singer had been in jail after a hearing about child support. his publicist now says the $161,000 he owed was paid. obviously, he has a lot of other issues other than just child support to deal with, but as he walked out, he spoke just for a minute to reporters. >> thanks for the water. thanks for the water, guys. i promise you, we're going to straighten all this stuff out, that's all i can say right now. >> to your fans, anything you'd like to -- >> i love my fans. thank you guys for the water. kristin: you know, i'm just
thinking, my goodness, cook county, between r. kelly and jussie smollett -- leland: it's been a busy place, yeah. no kidding. pretty interesting, though, from in that they went back a after r. kelly on the child support issue, and obviously he has the other charges. he still has quite the entourage as we see him heading away in his black splinter van. he gave that one interview to gayle king, unclear if he'll speak out any more. he promises it's all going to get straight thenned out. all right, you heard it hear first on "america's news headquarters." i'm leland vittert. kristin: president trump is set to release his 2020 budget plan on monday expected to include cuts to domestic spending as well as an increase in defense funding. gillian turner is back with more. you've been able to go through the entire budget -- >> reporter: i'm happy to report, i spent the last hour
reading through -- no, i'm just kidding. but we will eventually, once we see the plan. two days from now, a month past the statutory deadline, something the white house blames on the partial government shutdown that lasted five weeks, greasing the skids for the rollout, the president gave the state of the national economy a glowing review yesterday. >> the economy is very, very strong. if you look at the stock market over the last few months, it's been great. and certainly since my election it's up getting close to 50%, the stock market. so we're obviously very happy with that. >> reporter: the administration if predicts trillion dollar deficits for many years to come with a reduction down to $200 billion only in the tenth year and then a balanced budget will come in 2034, that's 15 years from now. the speaker of the house says she's unimpressed with the plan and that last year's trump tax cuts have got to go. >> this has to be revisited not
just because of the unfairness of it, but also the impact that it has on the budget. and what the budget means in terms of meeting the needs of the american people whether it's investing in education, building an economy for the jobs for the 21st century, innovation, allaying fears of globalization and innovation, what it means to america's workers. >> reporter: the president's earmarked $750 billion for defense spending, that includes backfill funds for his border wall. he believes under this current proposal he'd have enough money to complete it entirely by the end of 2020. overall, the plan increase requests for some agencies but cuts many others like the epa. so the next up for the budget, it gets to the house and senate. capitol hill insiders say they're likely to hassle over the president's proposal until the next spending deadline which comes up october 1st, at which point we'll be staring down the mouth of yet another government
shutdown. kristin: and i think house democrats aren't going to like that plan all that much. >> reporter: safe bet. kristin: gillian turner, thank you. leland: got the right animation. 2020 democrats, they are on the trail. busy weekend for them. multiple candidates at south x southwest, that's a wrches in austin, texas, others out on the trail in iowa. jeff paul keeping track of them all, and we mean quite a few of them. hi, jeff. >> yeah, quite a few. and south x southwest in austin is, no doubt, the place this weekend for many of the democratic presidential hopefuls. senator elizabeth warren will take the stage in a few hours. former texas congressman beto to roarke will be at the event the premiere of a documentary. minnesota senator amy klobuchar kicked things off this afternoon, is she took a few shots at president trump saying the american people are being governed by chaos instead of
opportunity. >> when i see the corrosive divide, instead of trying to find ways to bring us together in times of crisis, he finds ways to bring us apart. this is donald trump. every single day. and so that is the number one thing on people's mind. >>farther north, bernie sanderss campaigning in des moines, iowa. this is his third campaign event in the state where he also campaigned earlier in the week in council bluffs and in iowa city. sanders continues to focus on the working class as well as younger voters, targeting issues like rising student loan debt, he told the crowd at iowa he wants to make sure big companies pay their share in taxes, specifically targeting jeff bezos and amazon. he also mentioned other democrats running for the nomination as he tried to separate himself in a field of hopefuls that continues to grow. >> the nature of our campaign is not belittling people, it's not opposition research, it's not
attacking other people, but it's a serious discussion about the important issues facing the american people. >> reporter: now, former san antonio mayor julian castro, former colorado governor john hickenlooper and washington governor jay inslee will speak on sunday. elsewhere in the country, california senator kamala harris is campaigning in south carolina. leland? leland: jeff paul, thank you. elizabeth warren is proposing to break up big tech. one can imagine at a tech conference by south x southwest have something to say about that. she said companies have too much power over our economy, society and democracy, i want government that makes sure everybody -- even the biggest and most powerful companies in america -- play by the rules. axios reporting that could include breaking up amazon's purchase of whole foods, google's take overover waze. with that we bring in former
obama campaign spokesman zack, and jehmu greene. i understand you are joining us from south x southwest. how's elizabeth warren's proposals going over with the tech billionaires down there? [laughter] >> probably not well. but i think what is great about all of these democratic candidates is they are coming into the marketplace of ideas, they're certainly putting their positions forward. elizabeth warren is coming in as -- leland: and nothing says candidate of the people like south x southwest. what a every man's operation that is. [laughter] >> well, i will agree with you that there is a certain kind of elite vibe -- [laughter] influencer, trend-setting vibe here. but that's a great thing. there are some major companies that have launched here. i'm in austin, and i understand
the appeal of this city and why candidates need to come down and talk to all of the diverse young people who have gathered here. leland: a lot are calling warren's proposal hipster antitrust. elizabeth warren calls this nerding out, when she goes deep dive on all of the policies. that is sort of the opposite of what we saw in 2008 from barack obama when you were on his campaign of the aspirational hope and change and allowed the voter to project their own policies on the candidate. is warren on the wrong track here? >> well, i do think in some respects you actually need to be much more top line. i think what people are looking for right now isn't this level of specificity, but something that speaks to the general needs of the country. for example, as we talk a lot about the green new deal, i think there's a lot of states who would like to have a new deal for forgotten america, something that focuses much more on economic populism. it shows that she's got the
chops, believe me. president obama had the chops in the weeds as well, but people do connect more on the top line. leland: real quick, we'll get jehmu to weigh in, some of the policies that warren has talked about pretty much in the weeds; the wealth tax, 2% on people over $50 million, $3 over a billion, she calls it the ultra-rich tax, universal child care, debt-free college, a green new deal. it's pretty much something for everybody, jehmu. >> well, i think it is certainly aspirational to be putting your very specific policy plans forward, and the idea that the american people wouldn't want to understand where the candidates stand on these issues in these details, i think that shows a little bit of kind of how the media covers our presidential elections, our celebrity culture. and in many ways, that's what got us donald trump. and there's one thing democrats want in their candidate, someone who can beat donald trump --
leland: democrats agree on wanting to beat donald trump, what they don't agree on is how to do it or who should do it. this is a former clinton staffer, pretty high up in the campaign, on bernie sanders and accusations that he is starting to enjoy the high life of a little too much in demanding private jets. i'm shocked while thousands of volunteers knocked on doors in a desperate effort to stop donald trump back in 2016, his royal majesty, king bernie sanders, was only deign to leave his brand new second home on the lake if he was flown around on a cushy, private yet. director of rapid response for the clinton campaign. boy, zack, nothing like a campaign worker scorned. >> i know. look, the difference between the shades of blue in these candidates is much less than the difference between these candidates and the president of the united states. it does us absolutely no good to
relitigate the 2016 campaign or to cause these same problems in 2020. and for that matter, you generally don't complain about the officiating when you win the game, so i think a lot of this is sour grapes that we just need to move on from. leland: apparently, some have not moved on. amy klobuchar comes to mind when you think about that. zack, jehmu, appreciate it. get some barbecue for us down at south x southwest. >> come on down to austin whenever you can. leland: i'm looking forward to it. >> thank you. kristin: former trump campaign chairman paul manafort sentenced to 47 months in prison this week, and he could face even more time because he has a second sentencing hearing on wednesday here in washington. our garrett tenney joins us live with more. hi, garrett. >>anafort, he turns 70 next month, and at this point his future is still very much up in the air. next week he will be facing sentencing in a separate lobbying case in d.c. where he's
facing ten years in prison for conspiracy charges. the judge could add that sentence on to the 47 months manafort was sentenced to this past week or could decide to have the sentences run concurrently. even after this trial, paul manafort's legal troubles may not9 be over. the d.a. in new york city is reportedly preparing a case against him for unpaid state taxes and loans. state charges, which unlike federal ones, could not be erased by a presidential pardon. on friday president trump says he has not discussed a potential pardon for his former campaign chairman though. >> i don't even discuss it. i have -- the only one discussing it is you. i haven't discussed it. no collusion with russia. there was absolutely none. >> reporter: the president's former personal attorney michael cohen, meanwhile, is facing fresh questions. fox news has learned staff for adam schiff traveled to new york at least four times to meet with cohen before his public testimony last month for more
than ten hours to discuss his testimony, including a range of topics which democratic lawmakers ultimately asked him about at the hearing. a spokesman for schiff said these kind of meetings are a routine part of congressional investigations, but house republicans are suggesting it was witness coaching. this morning robert ray said even if they were legal, the meetings still raise some serious questions. >> i'm not questioning the fact that it's appropriate for members of congress to have sessions with the witness beforehand to prep the witness. what i am questioning and what ken starr questioned is, you know, that ought to be a bipartisan function where both sides get an opportunity to find out information beforehand. >> reporter: a source close to fox news -- a source close to this matter tells fox news that chairman adam schiff has pledged to release the full transcript of cohen's eight-hour testimony behind closed doors and said the transcript will vindicate cohen and implicate others.
so as the president likes to say, we'll have to wait and see what happens. kristin: garrett, thank you. let's dig into this with the great american alliance co-chairman eric beech. eric, thank you for coming on. m let's start where garrett tenney left off, this issue of republicans accusing adam schiff and his staff of coaching michael cohen before his big public testimony last week. do you agree with those republicans? do you have a problem with it? >> well, i just don't think he did a very good job of coaching michael cohen, to be honest. what we heard out of that testimony was there was no collusion between russia and the president or his campaign, and michael cohen verified that. so i think adam schiff had a real problem on his hand, and i don't know, this may be the first time that a sitting member of congress on the committee has coached a felon on how to testify before congress. so i agree it should have been bipartisan, but really i also agree that the result was not very good for congressman schiff. kristin: let's pick up on what you just said, because that is
exactly what the white house and president president trump have been pushing this week in light of the cohen testimony and the manafort sentencing. they've been saying that, you know, nothing that has come out of the cohen testimony or the manafort trial would indicate any collusion with russia. but it's -- president trump pointed to something that the judge said. he said that the judge said no collusion with russia, but what the judge really said was that manafort wasn't accused of collusion and that the trial was focused on an unrelated crime. so can president trump and the white house realistically use that as defense? >> yeah, because the democrats the entire time have tried to draw the parallel between paul manafort, who was convicted of tax evasion versus, you know, the democrats who have sought to make it about collusion, which there was nothing there about collusion. and you've seen some of the democrats go away from the pending mueller report. so i think the president has
good messaging on his side because he realizes that the democrats have overreached, and then you have 81 witnesses going to be investigated, if you will, by chairman nadler as well. so i think, again, pointing out this democratic overreach from one party, i think, is going to be healthy for the president because i don't think this mueller outcome will go against him. kristin: we should find out fairly soon. all reports indicate that the mueller team should be wrapping up shortly. let's talk about the possibility of pardons. i think it's pretty clear that president trump is not going to be pardoning michael cohen, especially after that testimony last week, but there's a real possibility that he could pardon paul manafort, and he has not ruled it out. you're very close to a lot of folks in the president's o bit, what are you -- orbit, what are you hearing? >> i think we ought to investigate the investigators at some point. i have no doubt that the investigators are, you know, prone to doing their job, and i
have no doubt that bob mueller's an american hero, but he's not an elected official. and i think what you're seeing here is really an overreach, once again, by people that are not elected to office. to draw this parallel between paul manna disport the president is just -- manafort and the president is just wrong to do. even though it's only been three and a half years, four years of a sentence. so i think us as republicans need to take a step back and allow the democrats to continue to overreach. i don't think it's badr for us politically, but i do think it's bad for the cup. kristin: you didn't quite answer my question there. do you think president trump is going to pardon paul manafort? >> i think he should keep some options on the table. if he finds that the investigation was clouded, but i don't think he will do so. kristin: interesting to note that paul manna fort did thank the judge during his sentencing hearing for a fair trial. so it'll be interesting to see how this all plays out. eric beech, thank you very much for coming on the show on a saturday. appreciate it. leland?
leland: elon musk's security clearance under scrutiny. what his defenders have to say about that. and the grand jury returns more than a dozen charges against jussie smollett. what that means for his case. while the cleanup from a deadly tornado continues across america's heartland, more severe weather on the way. meteorologist adam klotz tracking those storms. hi, adam. >> reporter: yeah. for the second week in a row, we're tracking storms moving across the southeast. there are going to be big thunderstorms, possibly more tornadoes that do a lot of damage. i'm going to be tracking those storms coming up after the break. ♪ ♪ (vo) this is the avery's.
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through the upper midwest into the overnight hours. farther to the south, that's where this becomes a much more dangerous system, perhaps some really big storms, similar to what we saw last week and firing up as the leading edge currently moving right across the mississippi if river, getting closer to memphis. everything highlighted in the red-outlined box. this is a tornado watch in place which means the conditions are ripe for tornadoes to fire up across this entire line and actually within the last hour to 4 minutes, we have -- 45 minute, we have seen several radar-estimated tornadoes. as we get into the afternoon, we'll likely continue to see these pop up as the daytime heating really settles in. the severe threat this weekend, unfortunately, currently we're looking at saturday stretching there across the mississippi valley, getting into portions of tennessee and then mississippi. however, if we begin to look towards tomorrow, this whole system's going to continue to shift a little farther off towards the east, and this is
where we could see a tornado threat moving back into places that were already hit last weekend. so every one of these pink highlights, those are where touchdowns touched down on sunday of last week. as you see this, a lot of those running right across is some of the same areas, the potential for severe weather tomorrow, kristin. so this is going to be a big system that we're paying attention to today into tonight, but i think this is going to linger sunday night and monday for a lot of folks -- kristin: that is not what we like to see for those folks recovering from the touchdown last week. adam klotz, thank you. leland? leland: elon musk could be facing some extra scrutiny, all thanks to this clip. we've played it before, of him smoking marijuana. an official says the pentagon is now reviewing the spacex ceo's clearance including a form that includes applicants must disclose drug use. musk recently resubmitted his
form. marijuana remains illegal under federal law, and with that we bring in elon musk enthusiast kristin fisher for her thoughts. kristin: ah, this is -- leland: he's not doing you any favors. kristin: this is a tough one for elon musk and spacex because so much of spacex's revenue comes from these spy sat lights -- satellites which are now potentially in jeopardy because of the security clearance reviews. so while -- it's just bad for spacex. it's bad for elon musk and, you know, it's disa appointing because they're doing so many things, and there are so many people that work for spacex trying to make this company great, and stuff like that a makes it tough. leland: if you've ever in trouble, find an attorney who will defend elon musk, like kristin fisher -- kristin: what he did was legal in california -- leland: those federal laws are just pesky little things. all right. kristin: it's a loophole.
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♪ ♪ kristin: the february jobs report falling below expect anticipations after a strong showing at the beginning of the year with the u.s. economy adding just 20,000 jobs last month as unemployment fell to 3.8%. for more insight, we turn to business development leader mitch roschelle. mitch, thank you so much for coming on and providing your insight. and, you know, there were two big headlines this week that on the surface may not have seemed like good news for president trump and his trade and economic policies. you got that jobs report and some big trade news. but you believe that those headlines may not be as bad as
they seem. let's start with that jobs report. it was the weakest report since september of 2017. but listen to how the top economic adviser, larry kudlow, tried to spin it yesterday. >> that's a very fluky number. it doesn't jibe with any to have other things going on, and i think you have timing issues, government shutdown issues, seasonal issues. kristin: he called it a fluky number. do you agree with that assessment? >> i don't know that fluky's in my vocabulary. [laughter] however, you have to look at it over time, and i would say that last month was a little odd because you had the lingering effects of the government shutdown, you had some weather in january that didn't exist in february. if you look at the three-month average, you were at 187,000 jobs. that's still pretty strong. kristin: and there were 20,000 jobs added last month which was better than what was initially expected, right? >> well, the expectation was actually in line with what we now have as a three-month
average of about 180,000, so it did fall short. but buried in there, you had manufacturing jobs that were up, you had the unemployment rate falling, and you had wage growth at 3.4%. so there's really some strong things buried in that report. i think the problem is that headline number of 20,000 spun people's heads, and that's what really caused all the confusion yesterday. kristin: yeah. the headlines sure can change the meat of the story, that's for sure. let's talk about trade. because the bad headlines that came out this week for president trump are that america's trade deficit in goods with the rest of the world rose to its highests level in history, $891 billion. the trade deficit with china also reached a record high. why do you think this is not as bad as the headlines might make people believe? >> well, one of the things, kristin, is the dollar is very strong against other world currencies. so for that reason alone -- and, in fact, if you looked at what
china did early on in retaliating against the tariffs or the threat of the tariffs, what they did was their reference to try to, you know, weaken their own currency against the u.s. dollar. so that tried to be a way to balance out the tariffs. but the fact of the matter is if you look at what retailers did, they started purchasing goods well in advance of the tariffs. there were a lot of sort of aberrational things that happened during the year to widen the deficit. but buried in there is another nugget which is our trade surplus for services, not goods, is on the rise. it's not rising as fast as the trade deficit for goods is falling, but we do have a trade surplus with services with the rest of the world. kristin: yes, but president trump's goal has been to narrow that gap. i mean, this is the opposite of that, and you have all these tax cuts, the trade war with china, the tariffs, i mean, haven't those policies that the trump administration has imposed, hasn't that made this worse? >> but one of the things it's done, kristin, is those policies have made our economy stronger,
you have economies around the world that are weakening which is having the effect of making the u.s. dollar stronger. and when the dollar is strong, it does shift the balance of trade a little bit which is widening the surplus, because it's cheaper to buy stuff abroad. companies are going to have their supply chain abroad because it's cheaper than doing it here. by the same token, people aren't going to buy u.s. goods because they're more expensive using their own currency. so you really have to look at the dollar as being one of the things that' had a heavy influence. kristin: understood. just want to get this question in really quick because the fed's next policy meeting is taking place in just over a week, and i'm curious how you think this latest jobs report could impact that and interest rates. >> they've been pretty clear that they're not going to do anything with insurance rates -- interest rates in the near term, and i think a 20,000 job report for february just reinforces that. they say they're data-dependent, they're probably not going to do anything in the upcoming
meeting. kristin: all right. more of the same. mitch, thank you. >> all right, kristin. kristin: coming up, chris wallace is going to have much more on the president's budget proposal when he talks to white house economic adviser larry kudlow tomorrow on "fox news sunday." check your local listings for time. leland: federal investigators investigating martin shkreli again. "the wall street journal" says shkreli, also known as pharma bro, has used a cell phone to keep tabs on his company while in prison. he faces up to an additional year in prison if convicted. you're always able to find a redeeming quality in people in trouble. any thoughts on this one? kristin: i'm just wondering why he doesn't have that as his twitter bio pharma bro. [laughter] leland: he's not supposed to have a twitter account, but that's one of the charges --
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kristin: nearly suggestion tons of u.s.-backed humanitarian aid is making it way to the colombian border meant to cross into venezuela. this is the seventh military flight to attempt to make it into the country. the shipment contains more than 360 tons of food and medical supplies and comes as the u.s. continues to voice its support for op opposition leader juan guaido. ♪ ♪lee and with that, we bring in retired major general robert scales, good friend to have the program's.
nice to have you back, sir. >> good to be back. leland: we're sending u.s. military planes to send aid to the venezuelans. we have on record the national security adviser saying if something happens to juan guaido, the united states is going to hold the venezuelan government responsible. do we have the assets in place to back those -- >> absolutely. let's just review the bidding here. the united states army has been in colombia and the rest of the region for almost 40 years. we have an entire special forces group whose soul focus is venezuela and colombia. but the president's playing this one right. there's no threat of direct military intervention. but our boy, maduro, knows that we have assets all in the theater should he do something incredibly stupid like threaten juan guaido. that would be an enormous mistake. we have to play the long game here. eventually, this regime is going to crumble under its own weight. what we have to avoid is getting too bullish on our approach to venezuela. this has to be solved by the venezuelans and by the lima
group in south america. leland: you and i talked about something that was said by president obama now many years ago. he said that assad's days are numbered. and you -- [laughter] agreed with the idea that when the president of the united states says someone's days are numbered, you should be able to count that on a couple of hands and not get to your second foot. >> the world doesn't work that way, as you know. leland: but we now have on record u.s. officials saying door row's days are -- maduro's days are numbered. is that different? >> no, it's not. the russians don't even have a toe in this. and maduro's regime is collapsing from every different corner of the country. the center of gravity, to use a military term, is the military. and we've seen the national guard begin to crumble. we don't see the regular army on the border anymore which means maduro doesn't trust them. we only see the thugs that are his hired cronies. we see the military moving away
from the, from the border area -- leland: i think -- all right. we'll check on how many numbers that is. we've got to get into double digits or only triple digits. quickly on this, the president now coming out and saying as part of his budget proposal that our nato partners and others around the world are going to have to start paying more. will this make a difference as we look at the strategic map? he called out a number of countries by name. >> yeah. i mean, here's some facts and figures for you. if germany and france paid their full share, the delta in investment in the military and nato would be greater than russia's total investment in their military. germany has 80 million people, the gross national product, about a quarter of ours. if they invested just a little bit more, we would be able to thicken the border along the eastern part of europe and prevent any threat of the russians ever going beyond the borders of the ukraine, poland
or the baltic states. it's very important that they pay their fair share. and what's so interesting right now is the rumblings in local governments, that's probably what they're going to do. leland: are they going to do that because they've been named and shamed by the united states, or because the threat that russian aggression -- >> it's all about the threat. the german army is in tatters. they have a long way to go to get back in the game. but -- leland: the u.s. army's in tatters in some ways. >> in some ways. we're down to 30,000 soldiers in europe now. think about that. it was 250,000 when i served there during the cold war. no, our front line is now northeast asia and china, and it's in central europe along the border of russia, and we have of to thicken our forces there in order to deflect the chinese and keep the russians from being aggressive. leland: so many questions in terms of what our readiness is even with our troops that are there. general scales, thank you. >> always a pleasure. thank you, leland. leland: indeed. all right, coming up, a little bit more on the jussie smollett grand jury.
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months in the hospital fighting tetanus all because he had not been vaccinated. this was the first case reported in the state in more than 30 years. now lawmakers this and in washington state are considering bills that would require children to get their vaccines after a measles outbreak in the region, action people against vaccinations came out to demonstrate against. leland: a lot of questions about who pays that boy's medical bills too, because this was preventable. an illinois community mourning the death of a sheriff's deputy. dozens of police officers escorting the body of 35-year-old jacob kelter in who was killed in the line of duty in a standoff. he served more than 12 years with the sheriff's department there, and we thank him for his service. ♪ ♪ kristin: jussie smollett is now facing 16 federal counts of --
felony counts, excuse me, of disorderly conduct in connection to an alleged hate crime attack that police say the actor may have staged. joining us with more insight is federal litigator andrew substituteman. andrew, he was originally charged with one felony count, now he's facing 16 counts of disorderly conduct for filing a false police report. help me understand, how do you get from 1 to 16? [laughter] >> well, i think they had their initial investigation done, now they've expanded it out. and you have prosecutors who are out for blood in this case. chicago's reputation has been through the mud. you've got prosecutors and the police force who are extraordinarily upset, and they are throwing the book at this guy, and they're going to try to bury him. kristin: what's the likelihood they will be able to bury him? how solid is their case? >> i think it's a really, really strong case. it should be a slam dunk. it should be a grand slam. you know, you have two cooperating witnesses in the two
brothers, you have 55 cameras that have caught part of the crime on tape. you have an outlandish story that most third graders wouldn't believe, and you have somebody that likely isn't the most credible witness in the world. so it should be a strong case, but kristin, as we all know, prosecutors have blown a whole bunch of slam dunk cases for celebrities in the past. kristin: that's very true. and, you know, i have to bring in the side because smollett's attorney is calling this 16-count indictment prosecutorial overkill. listen to what he said just yesterday. of. >> even if he were supposedly the one who had orchestrated this, this is an outrage. the fact that he maintains his innocence makes it even more outrageous. sixteen counts? i defy anybody to find any indictment anywhere where somebody has brought 16 counts for being a victim of a hate
crime, basically. kristin: does he have a point, or are you still not buying it? >> no, you know, i'm not buying it. but we do have to remember, i mean, mark ger goes is an excellent attorney. he might turn this entire thing into a freak show in order to try to get his client off. and remember, we had o.j. simpson, we had r. kelly, snoop dogg -- kristin: it's already a freak show. >> i'm sorry? kristin: it's already a big circus. what more could he do? >> the best thing gaer goes could do is put the chicago police department on trial and say that they are racist, they didn't like him because he was gay. i'm not saying it's going to work, but if anybody can do it, if anybody can prevent a top flight defense, it's mark geragos. kristin: what's the possibility that smollett actually faces any jail time here? >> i don't think there's any question, he's likely to go to jail. kristin: really? >> yeah, minimum sentence of a
year, maximum of three years, and chicago wants to make an example out of him for deterrent purposes so the next guy or gal who thinks about doing this doesn't do it. kristin: i tell you what, you get charged with 16 counts of felonies, i'm going to think twice -- not that i would have ever thought to do that to begin with. [laughter] had to clear that one up. andrew, thank you so much. >> anytime, thank you. leland: you think about that as daylight savings looms, and it does, your race against time has got nothing on these canines that embarked out on the iditarod. we are going to check in on the 1,000-mile racing dogs in a couple minutes. mush, mush, mush. ♪ ♪ ♪ i can't tell you who i am or what i witnessed, but i can tell you liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i only pay for what i need.
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kristin: yep, if you feel like time is really getting away from you tomorrow, that's because it is. most of the country will spring ahead by one hour at 2:00 a.m. not everyone is feeling the squeeze. you've got hawaii, puerto rico, most of arizona and some u.s. territories won't be resetting. leland: otherwise known as the smarter areas among us. kristin: exactly. leland: i don't understand daylight saving time. kristin: especially when you
become a parent, i didn't realize babies don't automatically adjust. leland: i feel like there's a lot of things worse for the kids, hangovers. kristin: hangovers are much worse with a kid. being sick. leland: traveling. kristin: there's a lot of pros. why do you focus on the negatives? there's the laughter, seeing the world through their eyes. leland: very inspiring. kristin: i'm not inspiring dad to become a dad any time -- i'm not inspiring leland to become a dad any time soon. leland: these dogs, i'm going to try this as a transition, these 52 teams of sled dogs are going t sleep really well along with their measures once they've crossed the a 500 miles of ice and he snow in the iditarod race. the winner will cross the finish line of the 1,000-mile race sometime next week. we don't hear the guy yelling
mush, mush, mush though. you brought up a good question. the dogs look happy. kristin: you hear so much from animal rights activists that this race isn't great for these dogs, their legs, their feet, all that sort of stuff. but i don't know, i'm a huge dog lover and these dogs seem pretty darn happy. look at those tails. this is not my dog, the miniature golden doodle trying to run the ey iditarod. leland: i'm guessing your dog wouldn't go very far. he has pretty good life as you might imagine. you're over the time change from vietnam. we'll be back here tomorrow at 1:00. in the meantime, before then, chris wallace has on larry kudlow tomorrow, ran into kudlow, got very interesting things to say about the president's budget that is coming up including when president trump wants to balance the budget. kristin: i think it's going to
be a while. leland: might be a little while. chris will dive into that as well. news continues from new york, a lot on jussie smollett and r. kelly out of jail once again. see ya. eric: president trump starting his weekend at mar-a-lago with the border battle on his mind. the president tweeting about the apprehension of a large number of illegal immigrants trying to cross into the country, as a federal judge ruled to expand a class action lawsuit over the crackdown on the border last year. welcome to a brand-new hour of america's news headquarters. i'm eric shawn. arthel: i'm arthel neville, the decision potentially dealing a he legal blow to the white house, as they face other issues like ongoing trade negotiations with china. president trump addressed concerns on whether the two sides could reach a deal. >> i think they're doing well but if it happens that way, we'll do even