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weeks we expect an announcementm beto o'rourke tomorrow. i will see you back here tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. eastern. our friend tucker carlson is up next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." tonight it was like a bad but still semiamusing comedy film come to life. federal authorities taken a quick break from chasing after russian facebook trolls have exposed a very large nationwide effort by actors, lawyers, private equity moguls, to game the college admissions process, to cheat. and it worked. unimpressive students became geniuses, totally uncoordinated video game players became cocapr legendary poll vultures. some people even fabricated new racial identities to get into school. amazing.
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trace gallagher has the details. >> late today a federal judge in los angeles agreed to release actress lori loughlin on a $1 million bond. she and her fashion designer husband mossimo giannulli are charged with paying $500,000 to have their two daughters recruited for the university of southern california crew team, despite neither girl knowing how to row. now usc says all applicants connected to this cheating scheme will be denied, and those already in school will be reviewed, meaning that loughlin's 19-year-old daughter olivia jade, youtube star, could be kicked out of usc. the hammer coming down on coaches and athletic departments. the charity foundation of rick singer, the ringleader of the whole scam, who already pleaded guilty, shows payments of $338,000 to the nyu athletic department and $546,000 to the university of texas athletic department. there's also a $100,000 contribution to a mysterious
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princeville enterprise, which coincidently shares the same address as ucla's former soccer coach. so far, coaches and other athletic personnel have now been fired or suspended at usc, stanford, wake forest, university of texas, georgetown, yale, and ucla. in other words, this game was up pay to not play. finally, the people who cheated to inflate s.a.t. and act test scores are also being rounded u up. >> tucker: trace gallagher. amazing, yet not surprising. two years ago, actress lori loughlin appeared on nbc on "the today show" and delivered one of those entirely stage yet seemingly intimate moments that publicists refer to as humanizing. loughlin's daughter was going to college and loughlin wanted us to know that she might be a famous actress with a team of image consultants and personal style stylus on-call but on some level, she's just like the rest of us. >> so many parents watching i'm
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sure going through this where they are about to watch a child go off to college. are you preparing for it? speak i think i'm in complete denial. when i think about it too much, it will make me cry. i've got to stop. >> tucker: make me cry, just like the rest of us. in fact lori loughlin is not like the rest of us. her kids got into college because she and her husband brought their way in. taking the spots of kids who worked hard and foolishly believed, it turns out, that the system was not rigged. how about those kids, lori loughlin's kids? were they gratefully advantage the received, here's one of her daughters expanding how she feels about going to the university of southern california. >> the whole college thing, i'm going and living in a dorm with a roommate. i do want the experience of like game day partying. i don't really care about school, as you guys all know. >> tucker: the whole college thing. i don't really care about school. of course she doesn't. her parents don't care about school either. none of the parents who
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supported this fraud care about school. they care about the credentials the school conference. the school part of school means less every year. the liberal arts curriculum in america has become a grotesque joke. even the people who make a living from it know that very well. humanities professors may be the single most cynical people in the country. the sociology of my cyrus, critical text and white privilege. women's studies. they are mocking us. they've got to be. this is pop art, no education. nobody's pretending otherwise anymore. even as academia descends deeper into absurdity and relevance, college degrees have become more valuable than ever. in modern america, only a small percentage of the population succeeds in the end. the pathway to that success, the world you read about on the internet, runs through relatively small number of universities. a ruling class claims legitimacy based on degrees from those places. it's completely fair, they tell us.
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they are in charge because they won the great meritocratic competition and got into yale. you are not in charge because you didn't. but of course they are lying to you. they were never plain by the same rules. ironically it was felicity huffman who best explained how it actually worked, back when she acted in desperate housewives. watch this. art mimics life. your kids take high take standardized tests that measure their ability for good or bad, people like felicity huffman and certify their children with bogus disabilities to get extra time on the test or get extra time on the test. your kids have to practice for years to get the attention of college coaches. their kids just pay some fixer to transform them into soccer superstars and poll vaulting
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prodigies. your kids must submit to quotas and affirmative action, they are published on the basis of their or skin color. and we are told that this has to be done, we must do this to offset their privilege, the blood guilt they bear for the bad behavior of others generations before they were even born. that's what they tell us. please. if you fall for that lie, it means you really don't have any privilege because people with actual privilege have the knowledge, the money, the connections to make sure the quota system doesn't hurt them. it benefits them. elizabeth warren did it. she lied about her race. that's how she got tenure in harvard. now warren says she has no sympathy for the people who got caught playing the same game she did. >> as a parent, how much sympathy would you have for these parents who are embroiled in this alleged cheating scandal? >> zero. >> tucker: the indictments that just came out on them and touch the greatest candle of all and that is how the mediocre children of the politically powerful on both sides take top spots at top schools without
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even resorting to bribery. they get it for free. they are just awarded them for the achievement of being born. that's how chelsea clinton wound up at stanford and oxford and then a hedge fund and mckinsey and various boards of big companies and then making documentary films nobody ever watches. all without having a single original thought ever in her life. do you know that is? that's an aristocracy disguised as a meritocracy. it's a scam. too few have been on his part. in this case only parents, athletic coaches, and a few university advisors have been indicted, no actual admissions officials have been named. as far as we know, none of the event been punished. that's a joke. they knew what was going on. they had to know. what the rest of us don't know but should know is how the college admissions process actually works. what are the rules of it? what are the criteria? who gets in and why? those are the key questions in the whole chain, from birth to
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world domination. yet no one will reveal what the recipe is. like all systems built on secrecy and deceit, it's opaque. it should not be opaque. we pay for all of this. all of higher education. directly through tuition and then indirectly, billions in tax dollars. direct or in federally backed student loans. we have a right to know. so open the doors. bring in the sunlight. let's see their books. college is too important to be this corrupt. riley campbell is a sociologist, coauthor of the book the rise of victimhood culture and he joins us now. thanks for coming on. who is the victim in all this, in this scam? >> the victims are certainly the students who are not getting places in the schools because people are cheating. that's one of the victims. and i think -- i look at it two ways. one is out of professor and
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somebody who's teaching students and also as a sociologist who studies these kinds of things. my first reaction is as a professor, and also as someone who did not go to an elite college myself. i don't teach at an elite college. i teach at cal state los angeles. if you look at elite colleges, ivy league universities, we find that children of elites and wealthy people already are very overrepresented. there are 38 colleges, including five of the ivy leagues where there are more students from families of the top 1% of incomes than the bottom 60%. that's the disparities you're talking about. the students i teach at cal state los angeles art from anywhere close to the top 1% of income, and they work hard. many of them are trying to raise families while they are pursuing their education, working jobs in all these things. so on a personal level, to see that, it's outrageous to think of people who are gaming the
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system and getting ahead of people who are trying to work. college is still pathway to success for many people and it's very hard one for many people who have all kinds of other responsibilities and things going on. >> tucker: we could fix this instantly. people trust the outcome of sporting events because they watch them on tv. it's transparent. you know what happens. you know who won rating recently know that the whole gateway to the ruling class is controlled by the ruling class and it prevents lots of people people from entering on unfair criteria. so why not just tell us exactly how people are getting in, what the standards are for getting in. why not open the books of the admissions department of those 38 schools you just mentioned? >> there's not much transparency in the admissions process, and it's -- even for people who may be highly qualified and have good applications can still be kind of a crapshoot. that's why you have such
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competition with the people. i think of it this way. there are always people out there trying to cheat, trying to game the system who will do things like this. but what does it reveal when it happens about, you know, the system? how are people getting ahead? i think there's a tiny bit of good news and that some of it is paying people to take tests and things, so test scores and those kind of things do matter somewhat. if we are thinking about, is there a meritocracy? there is not completely but it's not -- marriage has nothing to do with -- merritt has nothing to do with people getting in. you see sports being important where people to our paying to get on rosters of soccer teams and things. he sees other factors that are important and even when people aren't cheating, it's the rich and wealthy people who have advantages there. they can pay for their children's extracurricular activities. they have the time to do it and they can pay for their personal statements on the other things that matter in college admissions. >> tucker: well, of course.
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in this case you had kids who had only played fortnight were pretending to be, you know, star bob's letters or something. professor, thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: robert woodson is the president and founder of the woodson institute, frequent guest on the show on a very wise men we are proud to have him tonight. mr. with, thanks for much for coming on. you're watching the story unfold, and you have been in and around higher education all your life. what's the take away for you? what does this tell you about where we are? >> i really think it amounts to child neglect and child abuse. we are raising children in an entitlement mentality, and environment where they feel entitlement and told her parents. one of the most important books that i've read about this and i commend to your viewers is richard watson's book tables in fortune, what rich people have that you don't want. the sequel to that is
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entitle-mania. he talks about the entitlement mentality. the fact that we are exempting these children from the opportunity to be agents of their own uplift and as a consequence people, places like palo alto have a suicide rate that is six times the national average among teenagers. there are people in that community wearing safety vests at railroad crossings because of a high number of teenagers that feel distress of meeting expectations. i think it's worse than that, this entitlement mentality that also exists among low income blacks where the highest death rate is from homicide because reparations is the moral equivalent of what these parents are doing. among blacks. when we are creating -- >> tucker: reparations is the moral equivalent of what we're
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doing but reparations, as you know, it's a resurgent idea on the left. it suddenly popular. at least one presidential candidate, too i think. kamala harris villas with warren are now calling for reparations. executor bad? >> it's the most ridiculous proposal i've ever heard. first of all, it's important to deconstruct it a little bit. reparations, the question is who pays and who gets paid? people don't realize that slavery, they were blacks who owned as well. there were 3,700 blacks that owned 12,000. three tribes, the chickasaw tribes, the creek indians. they owned 3,500, so the question for me and the audience is who pays?
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do they pay? it's more complicated than people are making. what about the whites who came here after slavery? what about the hundreds of thousands who died fighting the civil war who never owned slave slaves? i think we ought to take this into consideration when were talking about slavery. it's also providing exemption from personal responsibility. all the problems of black america has, for someone to say that the answers to those challenges are external. let's say we accept the premise that reparations should be paid. what problem does it solve? if whites paid blacks money on monday and we come back two weeks later, what would be the impact on black on black crime? what would be the impact of drug addiction? the high dropout rate? i just think it's lethal for us
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to just talk about a simplistic remedy so we can do virtue signaling on the issue of race and appear to be champions. but we have done at the woodson center is we believe you should look into the black america's past and find out how our ancess achieved against the odds where there is racial inequality and income disparity. we built hospitals. we built schools. we had solid families. and so it is important for us to look back but also to look at what are our strengths? frankly, tucker, i'm going to say i think black america needs to abandon complaining about what happened in the past and begin to address the enemy within. that's the challenge we face today and we won't do that as long as were looking to the people we say who are enemies to be our liberators. it's just ridiculous.
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>> tucker: thank you for that. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tucker: good to see you. paul manafort was hit with yet another prison sentence today. that's how dangerous he is at the age of 70. he may die in prison. we'll tell you why. you.
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simple. easy. awesome. xfinity, the future of awesome. ♪ >> tucker: paul manafort was sentenced to an additional three and half years in prison today for crimes including failing to register as a foreign agent under the federal law. that's a law that washington is in no hurry to enforce for anybody else since half the city bobbies for foreign entities and isn't registered. there are a lot of potential offenses washington doesn't seem interested in investigating, including newly released transcripts of lisa page's congressional testimony come from the fbi began investigating the president as "an insurance policy" against him being president and that investigation began with almost no evidence against donald trump. fox corresponded david spunt has more. >> looking at nearly seven years in prison. he showed up where the judge
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said man afford is not public enemy number one. he's not a victim either. manafort was sentenced for witness tampering and violation violations. arguing that manafort lied after predeal combine his sentence today with the sentence from last week in virginia also prosecuted by the special counsel and you get a 7.5 year sentence. he's already served nine months. there have been questions over whether president trump would give paul manafort a pardon. the president said this from the white house today. >> i feel badly for him. i think it's a very sad situation. >> if the president were to pardon paul manafort, he is still not out of the woods by any means. today manhattan district attorney sy vance announced a 16 count indictment against manafort with charges mirrorings from virginia last week. the president would not have the authority to get manafort out of those state charges if he is found guilty there. meanwhile new light shining on lisa page's closed-door testimony last year.
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new transcript released this week show along with fox's early reporting that page testified russia collusion was still unproven, special counsel robert mueller was appointed in may 2017. today president trump called the obama justice department "aa broken and corrupt machine." tucker. >> tucker: david spunt life in washington. michael caputo is a former advisor to the trump campaign 2016 and he's been through the ringer in the last couple years. he joins us tonight. michael, you watch the sentencing, the second round of sentencing for paul manafort today and you saw that one of the charges to the bled to was not registering as a foreign agent registration act of 1938. something that basically nobody in washington does. did you begin to wonder maybe if this was a selective prosecution? >> [laughs] wow. yeah, i guess so. tucker, nobody knows more than
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you that the left views absolute annihilation this victory. they will stop at nothing to achieve it. they will try to get you fired, try to silence you or they will try, like in my family, try to ruin your family or even throw your dad in jail. but in the meantime, paul manafort is going to jail for registering registration charge and his partner on the ukraine project where he was supposed to be breaking the law is tony podesta. as far as we can tell, tony podesta hasn't been indicted. so even a blind person can see what's going on here. >> tucker: may i stop you there? was tony podesta registered under the foreign agent registration act of 1938? i don't think he was. >> he was now. when manafort was called on it, so was tony and they both kind of a contemporaneous registered for it and they thought that was fine for tony but i guess he didn't look too good for paul manafort. you know, it's outrageous.
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and now that we see lisa page's testimony everything that's becoming more clear than we ever imagined it would become, look, the mueller report is supposed to be coming to a close. my family has had our lives on pause for two years, along with dozens of other families. 81 other people learned this week or last week that it wasn't over in the house either. chairman nadler appears to be starting it all over again and asked us offer documents. it appears that it's going to be a long, long summer with 81 people being marched in front of the house judiciary committee. >> tucker: are you going back? >> i won't go back. i gave them a quick answer, me and my attorney, we have no documents that they asked for. i also have the shortest document request of all 81 people. but they still asked my attorney if he would present me for
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testimony. if they are inviting me, they are inviting all of us. listen, at the end of the day, tucker, we have talked several times about this. i've been doing this for two years and it's a long dance. i testified three times under oath. each time to the same questions, each time it cost me half a year's salary, and here we go again just for my family was waiting to press play on our lives, right? i've got nothing left. they've taken my business. they have punch the living crap out of my family. i've got nothing left. what are they going to tape up my freedom and the only way they're going to take my freedom as if i testify a fourth time under oath and they get -- they tear me apart like democrats are wont to do. i'm not willing to do that, so i'll take the fifth. and i will keep doing it as long as my family's go fund me holds out. on go fund i think some of the other 81 people should do it as well. your network stood behind you and i'm hoping people stand
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behind me. >> tucker: i guess the lesson is you should've worked for jeb or john kasich. i don't see the feds going after anybody who worked on the job! campaign or john kasich. i'm sure it's not connected. >> jeb took money from the chinese, over million dollars. i don't see anybody asking about that but here we go again with the russian collusion delusion. you saw yesterday chairman schiff who is missing all the headlines in the camera time, he is saying if mueller's report doesn't come in and has the president tweeting some question and answer with mueller, he's going to start over and over again. all he is saying is if you don't release the mueller report, we're going to tear everybody apart limb from limb. >> tucker: we are going to look back on this in horror and shame i think. michael caputo, good luck. >> thank you. >> tucker: democrats appear to
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be united in attacking the bad man, paul manafort, pursuing more investigations. but they are split on a major question and it's impeaching the president. and seemingly everything else. john summers is a former communications director for senator harry reid and we are happy to have them on the show. thanks for coming on. i don't quite understand -- i understand the political reasoning behind speaker pelosi's statement the other day that she doesn't want impeachment. but how can you believe, as she has said repeatedly, that the president is a traitor, but you're not going to impeach him? don't you have to impeach him? >> you obviously have to have the documentation. you have to have the facts behind you. before you impeach. i think she was doing the right thing by putting out there that we are not going to go toward impeachment unless there is actually data to support it. that's been the democratic position for long time. i know that she come in that story she said i'm going to make news now, it's not really news because of the fact that they've been saying that.
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that's what we've been saying. it was also required in order to have impeachment. but the house is doing is exercising their constitutionally mandated oversight. >> tucker: wait, wait, wait. there oversight. okay but pelosi has specifically claimed that trump is guilty of crimes. the first among them is colluding with a foreign power, betraying your own country. she has said that. chairmanship has had that print high-profile to democrats are set for two years conclusively without the data that you just refer to that the president is guilty of these charges. >> angle to get through. >> tucker: is absolutely true. they said he was a traitor. do you remember that, a traitor. that's a quote. >> i remember people on this very network who were upset with how the president conduct himself during that summit. >> tucker: whatever. i'm sure they were. >> that's a whole separate issue. >> tucker: then maybe they are
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for trump's impeachment too. i'm sure some of them are but that's the point i'm making. if you think that trump is a traitor and you say that out loud and many democrats did, not just a handful. many did. don't you have to impeach him? how can you allow a traitor to remain in office when you have is impeachment trial? >> because impeachment is just like a trial, as you said. you have to have evidence and you have to have proof. here's the other thing. i will tell you i don't want donald trump impeach. i don't want to give him that relief. i want him to lose and i want them to lose badly in 2020. i want him to feel every bit of that pain and i don't want there to be any question at all that his loss was legitimate. that's actually i think our best way out of it i think that's the direction we're headed in 2020. >> tucker: with that in mind, quickly, to questions and both are spurred by votes that took place in the house among democrats, last week. should 16-year-olds have the vote? should noncitizens be allowed to vote in federal elections?
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>> my personal view is i'm comfortable with 18 or above in order to vote, same as serving the military. in terms of people who are here illegally, no, i don't think they should have the right to vote. >> tucker: boy, that puts you on the fascist fringe of your party. >> crazy. >> tucker: [laughs] good to see you. thank you. the ceo of wells fargo wells fargo went to capitol hill. his bank has done bad things, says alexandria ocasio-cortez. she's been here for oil spills and imprisoning children. is that true? after the break, we'll find out.
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>> tucker: tim sloan is the ceo wells fargo. he appeared before congress yesterday. he was there to testify about the many customer abuses his company has been caught committing and there was plenty to be said about that and good. he also found himself being interrogated from a different
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direction by fake revolutionary alexandria ocasio-cortez. she says his company somehow to blame for how the border patrol operates. watch. >> why was the bank involved in the caging of children and financing the caging of children? >> i don't know how to answer that question because we weren' weren't. >> tucker: in other words, your question is bonkers. she then went on to suggest that the ceo wells fargo should be held responsible for any oil spills that occur, since his bank might make loans to the companies that oil pipelines. in fact, her fervor got so out of control that she then suggested that wells fargo should pay for damage caused by the keystone xl pipeline which wells fargo did not finance. by the way, which does not exist yet. >> since wells fargo financed the building of the pipeline in an environmentally unstable way, why shouldn't the bank be held
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responsible for financing the cleanup of the disasters from these projects? >> which pipeline are you referring to? >> either. >> we were not involved in the financing of the xl pipeline. we were one of the 17 or 19 banks that was involved in the financing of the dakota access pipeline. >> tucker: melissa francis pays attention to politics and financial markets. cohost outnumbered and after the bell. she's a friend of ours. she joined us tonight. would you make of that? >> first ball proud to be on with you, my friend, tonight. i watch this and this is the newest game of gotcha. you drag someone out for a beating and then you beat them about things that may or not not be related to their business. we did an exhaustive fact-check of what she said and our interpretation of what we thought she was trying to say. she's talking about the caging of children, and as we look through it -- i mean, he looked
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befuddled and rightly so. there was one company that wells fargo was involved with and they provided financing to this company which built one detention center under president obama. they set up so many photos of i it. it has no cages. it looks nicer to any school my children ever -- definitely no children that are separated in any way from their families at this location which i'm guessing was her point. but they also built a facility under president obama and it looks rather nice. the premise of her question was a gotcha that seemed to have no connection to anything that you said that wells fargo has done that hasn't been great in the past. this wasn't one of them. on the pipeline question, i mean, she's going down this road and she named the pipeline that doesn't exist. to give her the benefit of the doubt in a kind of pivots to one that does exist that they did help finance along with a bunch
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of other banks. the premise was if you provided finance to a builder, then the operator down the line does something bad, you are responsible. that's like saying if i kill someone in my house you should go put in jail the mortgage broker at the bank they gave me the loan. i mean, it's so many degrees of separation it just seems like there was enough to pick on. why are you pivoting teary issues and beating this guy? >> tucker: you're approaching it as a smart person from a rational perspective. but maybe it's a religion and petroleum is sin and anybody who has the taint of sin must be punished. movie that's the way she's looking at it. it's big i guess. i think it's a shortcut, easy gotcha. a lot of the different ceos in the ark been facing people coming outside, you finance cages. they don't care about the facts, was a company in the private prison business, did they really build something like that on the
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border? it didn't matter. it was just that they had some contract somewhere. so if you're even close to these things come intermittently guilty of the worst degree. >> tucker: it's just bizarre. melissa francis, always great to see you. >> mortgage brokers, watch out, you could be in big trouble. >> tucker: [laughs] good to see you. boeing 737, the new model had been grounded around the world. are the plane safe to fly or aren't they safe to fly? that's not clear at this hour. we are going to hope to get clear on it after the break.
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>> planes that are in the air will be grounded if they are the 737 max. they will be grounded upon landing at the destination. >> tucker: the president announced today that all boeing 737 max planes are grounded nationwide after a deadly 737 crash in ethiopia. the president's order is the culmination of a panic that swept over the globe the last week. here's part of it. >> breaking tonight, the u.s. standing nearly alone is most of the world has grounded the boeing jet after two fatal
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crashes. >> thousands of americans are flying in a plane that has been grounded in most of the world. >> the u.k., france, germany among the countries now grounded the new boeing max eight. why there is still flying in the u.s. >> tucker: the panic and the grounding that resulted today is of course a golden opportunity for china and the new which manufactures airbus to crowd out the united states from aircraft manufacturing. that's one of the few industries in the world where this country still enjoys global supremacy. are they behind it? how could they not feed. question is is the 737 really an unsafe lane or is boeing simply the victim of global power politics question mike pearson is an aviation lawyer and a trusted source for the question. he joins us. thank you for coming on. the obvious question is if there something in here in the wrong with the aircraft, and it's constantly pilot error, that's because these two crashes, why haven't you seen them in the united states? >> first of all, three things
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typically lead to accidents. human error, pilots, air traffic controllers. structures, power plants, or software. what's happened is over the last few generations, the aircraft systems in the software that runs the airplane has become incredibly complex. the 737, is it safe? yes. it's been the most used and has the highest number of miles flown for decades. in its various generations. i do believe there's an issue likely in the software side that will be fixed. more importantly talk to the pilots and the aircrews. i think what happened has been unfortunate. i do believe the 737, including the max series, 8, 9, are safe aircraft. i think changes need to be made to training and how to handle these situations uncertainly software adaptations i think the faa is working on.
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>> tucker: grounding seems like a pretty severe penalty. one that's going to cost boeing, one of a few interest is in america that still leads the world, billions of dollars. was there another way to do it? >> actually i think president trump took the appropriate action in grounding. the key is how long the grounding is for. boeing has already gotten a negative press for the series of events, so i'm not sure how much more of an effect it's going to be on the stock price. it's already down. more portly i think president trump to the appropriate thing erring on the side of caution when human life is at stake. if it's what i believe in people in the industry tell me, contacts and sources inside the faa tell me, it's what i stated before. it's a software and training issue, information issue that hopefully -- it's too early to
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determine probable cause for an accident, hopefully prevent it from happening the future. i think the key is how long to the grounding occur and how proactive is the faa and boeing to getting it fixed in getting these pilots trained. there is approximately -- southwest has approximately 38 airplanes, the series of airplanes event grounded. american has the next largest and then united. it's certainly not good and it's going to affect the bottom line revenue. each one of these airlines negatively. don't get me wrong. it's not a great thing. it will impact people across the country the fly. a five day grounding period and rescheduling of aircrews and the flying public i think is a small price to pay to prevent another horrible incident. >> tucker: yes, if that's what the stakes are, for sure. you're always rooting for one of the last dominant american companies. michael pearson, thank you for that perspective. >> you're very welcome. >> tucker: jetliners are not the only danger they could be
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lurking in daily life. wireless communications are everywhere and in the form of cell phones and bluetooth headphones. they are often right against your own brain. hundreds of scientists have just warned that wireless headphones could increase people's cancer risk by exposing the human body to unsafe levels of radiation. keep in mind very little is known about this because there hasn't been a ton of testing believe it or not. as it was being afraid? dr. marc siegel's are fox news medical correspondent in the first person we asked about questions like this and he joins us today. doctor, i get the first thing to note in the story read today, it's not really known with the fact is for example the bluetooth in ear headphones from apple might have on the brain. >> not yet, tucker. we are getting there. national institute of health last year looked at rats and mice and found out their with prolonged exposure have increased risks of cancer, certain brain cancers with prolonged exposure. that's what our kids are
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getting, prolonged exposure. we don't have it yet in humans but we are talking about rays that are like microwaves for the radio frequency waves are like microwaves and were bluetooth headsets coming or being it trickle deeming it across your . chances of prolonged used causing an increased cancer risk when you're disrupting the cells of your brain and the calcium channels in your brain, i think it has to be carefully looked at metal think of the science, 250 scientists over 40 countries our way out on this. that's just one issue. that they are changing the cells. that's one issue. another issue is of course adhd is on the increase, attention deficit disorder among people that use these headsets. a study out of brazil shows that you're more likely to have ringing in the ears of you use these headsets. my kids, i can't even get them to answer me. i don't know about yours but they don't even answer me and now i find out that they are a health risk. >> tucker: i don't understand how apple could introduce and market a product like this which
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has since become ubiquitous, without knowing whether they give people a brain cancer. that seems kind of reckless. >> great points and the answer is we have always known that it's the distance from the head that matters the most, how far away. that's what they always said to cell phone users. keep it away from your head. now it's on your head. so we don't know because nobody's done long-term studies in humans yet. again, we are only just starting with the rats but the reason you're seeing this outcries because because of the studies in animals, male rats only. females were okay. i don't know why that is. we certainly have to see more more research on this. there's reasons like depression, anxiety that occurs from prolonged use, cutting off contact, lack of communication with your friends, with your parents, with your peers, with your teachers. i'm not for this, and i don't think it's harmless. there's no evidence that low intensity radiation, actually disrupts house the way ultraviolet light does.
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it's not at that level but again prolonged use. tuner 50 million headsets were sold last year. three and a 50 million. we've got to study this more. i'm concerned. >> tucker: i don't know the answer. i'm hardly a physician but i'm amazed no one is asking the question. dr. siegel, i'm glad that you are. thanks. well, the left is entirely engaged in destroying the first amendment. and imposing a sickly a totalitarian outrage culture on the country but they are putting their own well-being at risk when they do that it turns out, and we have at least one example after the break.
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♪ >> tucker: chris hayes is an anchor on msnbc, the one with the glasses. his political views aren't very interesting. hipster sensitivity varnished
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with buzzwords. but hayes seemed like a decent guy. he didn't seem like a hater. it was hard to imagine him promoting open racism or anti-semitism or it was hard to imagine until the other night when hayes invited a man called angelo karas own on a show. arizona runs media matters, almost every day he issues outrage press releases accusing other people of bigotry. and yet because everything is irony, carusone is an enthusiastic bigot. he's written about it extensively. it turns out for years he maintained a racist blog, one post entitled "trainee paradise" addressed a crime story from frm thailand. carusone objected to the idea that it was a story and ridiculed south asians as inherently ugly and poor. "is the writer a lover too or
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perhaps he's just trying to justify how these trannie -- $7,300 with of stuff? the guy is bangladeshi. in other posts, carusone described how a male coach at a high school had abused female players. people in japan were horrified. carusone was not. his advice "lighten up, ." by now in a frenzy of racism heaped praise on a former ku klux klan leader. in another post, carusone described a jewish man as being handsome despite his jewelry. he didn't like the political views but attributed them to "his possession of several bags of jewish gold." jewish gold.
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according to angelo carusone, jewish gold is a problem. media matters oddity issue a press release about this. they've done more for a lot less and this is the remarkable part chris hayes managed a pretend of this happened. hayes never mentioned the jewish gold. he never said a word about the japs or trannies or the klan. none of that. instead hayes gave cover to carusone's bigotry and anti-semitism. amazingly he directed his viewers to carusone's website. >> angelo carusone, it can be found at media matters website. listen to the full clips. >> tucker: pretty amazing. if a guy with a history of ranting about jewish gold came on your show would you ask him about it? would you challenge him? how would you not.
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you would feel morally obligated but chris hayes didn't. it tells you a lot. to be clear, we are not calling for either of these people to be imprisoned or executed or even fired from their high-paying jobs. we are not planning to organize an advertiser boycott against them. we won't picket their offices with bullhorns. we want to take the children. but we do think that you should know there actually like. increase hayes' case, it's depressing to find out, it turns out you really never know who people are. joe concha writes about media for the hill and he joins us. if he went on someone's shoulder talk about how someone had said naughty things 15 years ago, but you had kept a blog, in which you used the kind of stereotypes and racial attacks that this guy had referring to jewish gold and the japs. wouldn't you think it was hypocritical? >> if i knew that the interviewer would challenge me on those things.
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apparently angela carusone knew in advance that wouldn't happen in with chris hayes it's a classic case of pushing a narrative by engaging the worst kind of bias, the bias of omission. disservice to msnbc viewers for not trying that the hill has reached out to the media matters president for comment, as have many other news organizations and he's isn't talking. but then again you have to feel sorry for him, how would you feel if somebody went back in your past and talked about the things that you said ten or 15 years ago and then demanded that you get taken off the air. you've got to feel sorry for the guy. >> tucker: [laughs] it would be tough. it would be really tough. look, i just want to be absolutely clear. i don't care what he wrote on his dumb blog. he's a terrible writer by the way. he's kind of dumb. but i don't care. i don't care at all. if he heard an actual person, that would interest me. his dem opinions interest me not at all. i'm not suggesting here anybody else should be punished for what he wrote on some dumb blog 15 years ago. that's because i'm not a progressive and are not hysterical.
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who cares. how can you use the sky as an expert witness on bigotry with a blog like now? >> you can't. look, there are people on the left tucker that are talking about how obscene this is, these fishing expeditions. there's a electives -- a writer named freddie to board. he came up with phenomenal phrase called a fenced archaeology. he says go to any space conservatives social -- endless surveillance. everyone is to be judged and everyone under surveillance. he says that's what liberalism is. bad people doing bad things like offense archaeologist. digging deeper to find out who's good news bad nobody likes this on the left or the right. going into people's pasts and finding things to destroy their careers. that's one of the reasons my -- >> tucker: it's disgusting the whole thing the way of thinking but very quick you've been in this business a long time and i
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have too. if there's one group of people who shouldn't be throwing stones about their personal lives, probably the national press corps, right? >> of course. look, we all have done bad things and we could all go back and find something that's bad. the bottom line is what media matters, they have no leg to stand on here because when msnbc is joy reid made homophobic anti-semitic comments, they said it didn't meet the threshold for them to call for boycotts of he her. and now obviously that's what's happening with you. meanwhile you made some of your statement while you are at msnbc. the view that was the reason why -- >> tucker: whatever. [laughs] >> national radio. it wasn't like he set it in private. it was set on national radio. it's amazing. >> tucker: to be clear, i couldn't stay. great to see you. we are out of time. back tomorrow. the show that's a sworn enemy of line verbosity smugness and groupthink. but it's not over. we have good news for you.
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