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>> the recipe is fantastic. if you want the recipe for the tacos go to "fox & friends".com. new book on "the new york times" list. >> let's eat. >> bill: awaiting three big i vents happening in the next hour. first the actor jussie smollett is in court facing 16 felony charges. cameras are inside the courtroom. you'll see it live. former trump associate roger stone has a hearing on his trial date. he is facing the same judge that sentenced paul manafort yesterday. finally republican senators will decide today whether or not they break ranks with the white house and the president on border security. all that coming up on thursday morning. first this. grounded. that one word is about the boeing jets around the world. i'm bill hemmer live in new york. >> sandra: good morning. i'm sandra smith.
president trump announcing the decisions to join dozens of other countries grounding the planes. 40 countries including the u.s. putting a stop on the jets. the president said safety is paramount as the faa links two deadly crashes with the same plane model just five months apart. >> president trump: any plane in the air will go to its destination and then be grounded until further notice. planes in the air will be grounded if they're the 737 max. boeing is an incredible company. they are working very, very hard right now. and hopefully they will very quickly come up with the answer. but until they do, the planes are grounded. >> bill: doug mcelway picks up the story live in washington this morning. >> the fate of boeing was pretty much sealed yesterday morning when canada announced it was grounding all 737 max 8s. left no airspace outside the u.s. where the planes could fly.
canada and then later the u.s. cited new evidence as well gathered at the crash site on wednesday as well as new satellite data. >> it is new information that we received and analyzed this morning comes from validated satellite tracking data suggesting a possible, although unproven, similarity in the flight profile of the lion air aircraft. >> as late as tuesday boeing and the faa had stuck by the max 8. faa noting their review shows no systemic performance issues. unions representing thousands of pilots endorsed the plane. american pilots noting that after 14,000 flights of the plane we have not seen a single anomaly related to control issues. a separate report in the dallas morning news found several pilots did have safety concerns. one captain calling the flight manual inadequate. finally, late yesterday boeing
relented saying it has determined out of an abundance of caution to recommend the temporary suspension of operations. >> i really want to congratulate president trump. i believe this was his decision. i believe he decided that for the safety of the flying public, these planes needed to be grounded and then let the faa safety officials and the boeing safety officials work together to find out what's wrong. >> i spoke to aviation attorney last night after his remarks. he disagrees and said reports of new evidence on the ground and satellite daughter were covers. that the real reason for grounding the planes in the u.s. was political. there was growing bipartisan congressional opposition to boeing and the faa's decision to keep the plane in the air and congress has the power to change faa's mandate to promote aviation and safety. >> the inaction of the faa raises serious questions about
whether there is perhaps some conflict of interest or improper intervention. >> this will have a profound financial effect on boeing in the short term. there are 5,000 orders for that plane. it could be air worthy again in short order after new training and software adjustments. some investors are looking to buy back boeing stock after its lower price in anticipation of its climbing back. >> bill: leading our coverage today, thank you, sir. four minutes past the hour. >> sandra: just a day after a judge sentenced paul manafort to an additional 3 1/2 years in prison his former business partner roger stone heads to court facing the same judge who could send him straight to jail for violating a gag order. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live with more on this. good morning. >> thank you, sandra. roger stone is expected here at the district court about an hour from now and he is struggling to keep himself out of jail pending a trial for lying to congress among other
issues. and as you mentioned, it's the same judge in this case, amy berman jackson who handled manafort yesterday and she is clearly running out of patience with stone. all of this started back in february when a photo of judge jackson with cross hairs in the background was posted to instagram along with derogatory comments about special counsel robert mueller. that photo and comments were eventually taken down. it was not enough for judge jackson who further restricted the gag order on stone. this video shows stone at the district court last month as they were litigating the gag order. now the judge is concerned that stone and his legal team were not forthcoming with her about the re-release of a book he is written with a book he wrote. the inside story of how donald trump really won. what is key, it has a new and what's billed as explosive introduction. the question for the judge is whether the re-release of this book and introduction violates
the gag order that prevents stone from talking about the case but allows him to profess his innocence and raise money. his attorneys have filed with the court apologizing and just move forward if they can. the other issue is whether a trial date will be set. the judge is confident they can still seat an impartial jury. >> sandra: roger stone today. paul manafort yesterday, another busy day. thank you. >> amy and i are happy to share with you i'm running to serve you as the next president of the united states of america. >> bill: that was the announcement earlier today. beto o'rourke made it oeftion that he is running for president. good morning. he made a good run against ted cruz. he lost. let's see some of his policies here on the screen. he is against the border wall.
voted against ice. voted against kate's law. voted against tax cuts. support single payer health cut. voted against sanctioning iran and the quote from "vanity fair." he said i'm just born to do this. >> we'll see if voters agree. in texas he ran a very good race against ted cruz and came awfully close in a state that is extremely important to republicans and traditionally a deep red state. that roster you went down on some of his policies, he is not really a moderate. i think that he presents as a moderate. he is optimistic and uplifting in his rhetoric. he ran a positive campaign against cruz but he is relatively far out there. he is against new additions of border walls, he said he would be willing to tear some existing ones down. >> bill: pretty far left. i wonder in this primary if he
is left enough. >> that's a question for all of them. are they left enough? he will run into some problems both in terms of policy. he was kind of for a while a moderate back been mucher in the house in the house of representatives and his party is fixated on identity. he goes by beto, he is a white guy with a powerful family. that will probably be used against him. >> bill: you wonder if he emerges in the primary and succeeds. how does donald trump go off him. >> fun to think about how the president would go after various opponents. i would be surprised if beto is the nominee for a couple of reasons. the president might try to say he is a lightweight. would call him robert. pretty boy. that would be the direction that trump might go. i think he would present a tough race. he almost beat ted cruz in
texas. >> bill: he gave it a shot. what is the calculation for joe biden after this announcement? senator kennedy last night on fox said this. >> this is a culture of entitlement on steroids. think about the hundreds of thousands of kids out there tonight who are studying hard. their mom and dad, they don't have a lot of money. then you have the chuckle heads like these parents come along and do this because they're entitled. they're smarter and more virtuous than the rest of us. they drink goats milk latte's. >> what happens with the chuckle heads. >> it's a good day when we can wake up to chuckle heads and goat's milk. this story won't go away any time soon. you have celebrities, you have
scandal, you've got fraud, you've got privilege. real privilege run amok. it sounds like we've seen the tip of the iceberg of those involved. one of the gentleman says hundreds, not just 50 who were arrested. hundreds from across the country. it is intriguing. >> bill: nice to see you here in new york in person. 10 minutes past. >> sandra: we're awaiting actor jussie smollett to appear in court on 16 charges of lying to police about an allegedly staged hate crime and cameras will be rolling in that courtroom. we'll bring that to you live as it happens. >> bill: front page news in new york city. a mob boss shot six times. murdered in front of his own home. what police are investigating about that crime coming up this hour here. >> sandra: new revelations on the hillary clinton email investigation prompting accusations of corruption at the obama justice department. congressman devin nunes here to
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borders with other european nations. >> bill: awaiting former trump advisor roger stone. he will be before a judge this morning. there is a report that andrew weissmann is leaving is special counsel's team. is the probe near its end? desaulnier is on the oversight and transportation committees. what do you read between the tea leaves? about time to bring it to an end do you think? >> i'm always reserved in jumping to conclusions. the wheels of justice move slowly. it seems to be an indicator that we're coming to closure, which i think would be a good thing. >> bill: i think the question becomes what do house democrats do? do you personally favor going after the president for impeachment yes or no? >> i think we have to follow the facts and get to the truth. that's what will happen. that's what happened during watergate. this is an important part of that. we'll go to a second phase
depending on what the content of the report tells us and tells the american people. so i think it's incumbent on us as democrats to follow the facts of the truth and have a thorough investigation. >> bill: what did you think about nancy pelosi's comment the other day? she didn't think it was a wise course of action. >> i have enormous respect for speaker pelosi. i agree with her. you have to build a legal case but also a political case as the founders wanted. >> bill: there was a comment from steny hoyer the other day, too, about 62 new freshmen in congress. only three seem to be getting all the attention. what is your conversation like with other colleagues knowing that is the reality in congress at the moment? >> fascinating having been elected office in the local, state and federal level for many years. personalities change, group dynamics. this big class with its diversity, with its passion certainly has changed things. it is evolving.
i think it's the nature of the 24/7 news and social media that some people who are good at it get more attention. it doesn't mean there aren't people doing good work here. >> bill: are you okay with that? >> not really. my generation, i'm older. i read newspapers. remember them? so i think we as a society are just getting used to this way of getting information. >> bill: are you comfortable with the amount of attention that they seem to draw on a daily basis? >> for me personally, yes, they have particular skills and talents. i don't really have them to tell you the truth. but that's what congress is about. different people with different talents. >> bill: let me move to two more quick topics. michael cohen on the hill. >> i have never asked for nor would i accept a pardon from president trump. >> bill: cummings said there will be no action on michael cohen because of that statement. is he getting a pass?
>> he said at this time and he said the statement said i'm going to read the transcript from the other interviews with the other committees. so i think that is being prudent. i think this again takes time to collect all this information. so what the ranking member has questioned, i think we should pursue. but we have to do that with the other committees. >> bill: his words are i've never asked for would i accept a pardon from president trump. do you believe that to be the truth? >> the context of that as i understand it he said that in our committee. what mr. jordan is alluding to is the corrected version from his attorneys that he is allowed that may have happened when he was the president's and part of his legal team. we have to see what all of this means and get it in the proper context. that's the way i hear chairman cummings responding to it. not at this time. we need to read the transcripts. >> bill: you are on the transportation committee. boeing has been grounded, that particular line of jets.
are you okay with that? and if so when do they fly again >> i think what the president did is right. we should be prudent. the key part is training for people who are not domestic pilots here in the united states. we need to make sure these planes are safe and that the pilots know how to fly them properly and pilots all over the world. i think it's the wise thing to do. >> bill: do you have a guess being on that committee how long that takes? >> i think we can do it -- i think we can come to the conclusion and the faa can quickly within 60 or 90 days. how we deploy the training in a satisfactory way may take longer. >> bill: thank you, sir, democrat from california. come on back, thank you very much. 19 past the hour now. >> sandra: it's being called a bomb cyclone as this video sums up just how powerful it can be. >> oh my god. oh my god. >> sandra: unbelievable footage there on a highway.
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>> sandra: the faa says they see a connection between the two deadly crashes in ethiopia and five months earlier in indonesia. a statement saying the agency made the decision as a results of the data gathering process and evidence collected at the site. this evidence with satellite data available to faa led to this decision.mike cofield is a ot. did the u.s. make the right move here ordering these planes to come down? >> absolutely. thank you for having me this morning. absolutely. the president made the right call. the faa worked with industry and assessed the data. i think especially the satellite data was crucial as they mirrored that with the lion air incident. when they saw similarities, they felt it was critical and important. safety being the number one concern overriding that we all need to think about as the paramount decision first and foremost. >> sandra: talk to us about the satellite imagery and
similarities between the two crashes what they saw that would be reason to take these planes down from the sky? >> as they looked at the data. the first thing they looked at, they looked at take-off speeds. initially they looked at the fact the indonesian plane was at sea level and the ethiopian plane was a higher altitude. things didn't seem similar at first but the speed of take-off, the climb and altitude changes that took place within a few minutes of the take-off, they realized that they mirrored those two images together and said this is serious enough to ground the airplanes. >> sandra: how does the technology come into play here? it was involved with both crashes. it was on the plane of both of these max 8 airplanes. what can you tell us? >> i think you look at risk assessment, sandra. as design of aircraft
technology increases to more automation, they try to limit the amount of risk involved. when they do that, sometimes things fall through the cracks. one of those things is in identifying what has been changed and then identifying that to the pilots and the training techniques and the training regimen that is required. usually when you transition to a new model in the 737 program or 787 program, the pilots, we would receive input both on a web-based and then our training departments would work together with the pilot unions and the company and create a first-look picture, sandra, of when we stepped into the simulator for the first time every six months or nine months we would have an opportunity to discuss it together, what the issue was that was new, and then we would have an opportunity to look at that in the simulator itself.
that's invaluable and that needs to continue. as we've talked about, that's what you'll see in the next six months. >> sandra: that's going to be the big question is the amount of time it is going to take to learn what we actually can get from the black box and the cockpit recorder. what we do know is that the captain of this ethiopian plane. you've seen the reports and you would know this. the ethiopian airline has a tradition of high-quality training of their pilots. they have a great track record. but what we did learn was that the captain of the ethiopian plane reported flight control problems to air traffic controllers a minute before that plane crashed. what did that suggest to you when you heard that, captain? >> he was trying to make educated decisions on the environment that he was in. so he was looking back through his knowledge and history of training and performance. what are emergency procedures
that could be immediately implemented and then the communication between the first officer and captain. we'll go back and see that on the voice recorder. i would like to see the recorders in the united states. i hope that we have an opportunity that they would be at the ntsb here in washington >> sandra: there is a lot more questions than answers at this point. sorry to cut you off. breaking news to get to. appreciate your time this morning. thank you, sir. >> bill: big, important story we'll follow it live to iowa. beto o'rourke is talking about climate change. his first public appearance since announcing online 3 1/2 hours ago. he is in for the race for the democratic primary competition. here we go. o'rourke in iowa. >> claim some that's in the air right now. can we make it? i don't know. it is up to every single one of us. do you want to make it? because your kids, my kids, 2050 is just about my age looking back on this moment in 2019 and every moment
thereafter to judge what we did or what we failed to do because his kids -- think about all of us. his kids' lives, whether they can breathe is dependents on what we do now. some will criticize the green new deal for being bold or unmanageable. i haven't seen anything better that addresses the singular crisis we face, a crisis that could at its worst lead to extinction. the green new deal does that and ties it to the economy and acknowledges that all of these things are interconnected. it also recognized that some communities have born the brunt of pollution more than others. right now the asthma deaths that we have in the united states of america concentrated in some neighborhoods, some people more than others. it wants to make sure we do our part in making this more equitable and helping those communities that have already been hurt so badly. we insure there are jobs available for those looking for work, for purpose and function
in their lives who do not have it right now and are suck omg to the diseases of despair and in so doing make sure that the world's greatest super power, its greatest democracy and greatest economy brings everything that we have to this unique challenge. literally. >> bill: there is the opening argument on behalf of beto o'rourke age 46 out of el paso, texas. he was rumored to get in this race and now it's official. this is really what's going to happen in iowa over the next year. small restaurants, sometimes homes, the candidates go, meet and talks with groups of 10, 15, sometimes 20 or 25 but that's the way they do it and that's the way iowa likes it. o'rourke is in. we'll see how his record adds up when we compare him with some of the other candidates. while that is happening now, roger stone has arrived at court today to get a trial date that we believe should start probably in the fall. the mueller team says it is going to take about five or
eight days to present its evidence in court. they talked about voluminous evidence. he will be before a judge in a matter of moments and we'll see how it goes today. stone in court today. we had the manafort matter yesterday. a lot of people think that the robert mueller matter is near at end. you had a major move on behalf of one of the lead attorneys who went back to private law you could say, nyu here in new york. he was a lead lawyer for mueller's team. >> sandra: appearing before the same judge, amy berman jackson as paul manafort did yesterday. >> bill: a couple things going on. we'll take a break and be right back.
>> bill: want to get you back to chicago awaiting a court appearance that will happen in moments on behalf of jussie smollett, the actor expected to enter a plea for allegedly lying to police about a staged hate crime. he is stacked up against several felony charges. matt finn is outside the courthouse in chicago.
good morning. >> jussie smollett is scheduled to arrive to this courthouse in the next 10 minutes or so. his attorney tells us he will enter a not guilty plea on those 16 new felony counts of filing a false police report. a grand jury in chicago just returned those 16 new counts against the actor late last week. 16 felony charges represent every incident where the actor lied to their officers in their initial and follow-up interviews. also this morning high profile attorney mark geragos is scheduled to appear in person with smollett for the first time. we'll wait to see if he does make it to the chicago courthouse. in court today a trial judge will be assigned to smollett's case and the attorney that represents the two brothers paint smollett as the mastermind behind this alleged
sher aid. >> they are remorse stems from a learning process that what they were a part of was something much bigger than what they had thought. >> one of the attorneys from the geragos law firm said they don't feel there is enough evidence in this case to convict smollett. >> bill: we'll see you in court in 25 minutes live with cameras inside. >> the reason why he declared a national emergency as you all and your personnel know we have a crisis at our southern border different than we've ever seen before. the crisis we face on our southern border we're particularly grateful for customs and border protection. >> sandra: that was vice president mike pence calling on the senators to vote for the emergency declaration.
congressman michael waltz. thanks for your time this morning. what do you hope gets accomplished today? >> the administration will lay out its case. here is what we're dealing with here from a broad picture. we're dealing with a metastasizing and spreading islamic extremist threat at the same time we're dealing with -- i don't like to call them near peer competitors. china is now a peer competitor. they've stolen our technology edge and dealing with a dangerous russia that is growing its arsenal of low-yield, short-range, very quick flight time tactical nuclear weapons. i think we face unprecedented threats and the number one job of the congress, the number one job of the federal government is to keep america safe. everything else in my mind is secondary. but i think we have to make that case to the american people. >> sandra: the top republican on the house armed services committee, your colleague max thornberry says that money
should be used for something else. he says the $7 billion in the pentagon budget for the wall should go to defense. where do your colleagues stand on this issue? >> look, so just to be clear on the numbers, because i think there is a lot of misreporting out there. $3.6 billion is backfilling what we're using now. the rest -- this $5 billion number we just had the shutdown fight over is not a made-up number. not just something coming from the white house. that's from customs and border patrol. the president actually moved on his rhetoric. these are steel slats in strategic areas in between our ports of entry where we need some type of barrier. sandra, where i am as border security is part of national security. terrorist groups have proven in the past to work with mexican drug gangs, smugglers and others. a pipeline that can move people and drugs, can move weapons of mass destruction, can move arms and we need to shut that down.
i'm okay with it. we have to -- max thornberry is a very experienced, very powerful congressman. i think the white house needs to sit down with him. >> sandra: just so we can help everybody go through the numbers along with you. we have a screen we can throw up here showing the president's budget proposal and what he is seeking for the border wall. breaking it down, $8.6 billion total. the $5 billion you just mentioned from dhs, the $3.6 billion from defense and military construction. it would complete 722 miles of a border barrier. but going back to max thornberry, when he was answering questions from reporters, he said he supports the physical barrier, making that very clear. but i'll use his words, it ought to be funded on its own, he said. >> look, first remember the president's budget that he sends over is an expression of
his priorities. so no one should be surprised, i think at this point, that this is a priority for the president. that said, the congress is going to do its job in terms of how much is funded, how it's funded. that's an expression of his priorities. we still have a lot of work to do on our end. at the end of the day we need to get this border secured. i don't like we have to do it this way but previous congresss have kicked the can and previous administrations haven't gotten it done. a big reason why this president was elected is to get this done. i don't think he likes doing it this way either. one way or another he will get our border secured. i will support him in that. >> sandra: thank you, congressman michael waltz. >> bill: new york crime boss overnight shot six times outside of his own home. it is the first major mob hit we have seen in decades. so then who is behind it? >> sandra: lisa page's newly
released testimony has got republicans all fired up. did the obama-era justice department intentionally shut down the hillary clinton email investigation? congressman devin nunes joins us on what comes next. >> the department of justice under loretta lynch was never going to let this email investigation go too far. they gave a lot of people immunity in the clinton email investigation for no good reason. this year, we're taking it up a notch. so in this commercial we see two travelers at a comfort inn with a glow around them, so people watching will be like, "wow, maybe i'll glow too if i book direct at choicehotels.com". who glows? just say, badda book. badda boom. nobody glows. he gets it. always the lowest price, guaranteed. book now at choicehotels.com
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department in the wake of these released transcripts of testimony from the former f.b.i. attorney lisa page. congressman devin nunes, the republican from california. good morning and welcome back to our program. i have forfour minutes and a stack of stuff to go through. depositions set for release today that include christopher steele, depositions you have not seen yet. why is this significant today? >> christopher steele, who was contracted by the clinton campaign to go talk to russians. we don't know what russians he ever talked to. we tried to get him to talk to the house intelligence committee. he refused. however, he was sued so there was a deposition that was done. thankfully the courts have ordered that deposition to be released so it could be the first time that we actually see did christopher steele actually talk to russians and write the entire dossier that was then used by the f.b.i. to target the trump campaign? >> bill: why would this be
public today? >> the judge ordered it public. they wanted it sealed, both david kramer and christopher steele have fought this and these will be released. there could be nothing in there, but it should be the first time we actually see in their own words what they were up to in 2016 as it relates to the dossier. >> bill: another topic lisa page. there is a question under the texas republican john ratcliffe whether or not the justice department wanted the email matter on hillary clinton shut down. she apparently admitted that under oath. how significant is that now? >> i think it's very significant. this never made any sense. if anyone in the military or anybody in the intelligence community, including people within the f.b.i., if they were to leak like that, they would be fired. they would be in prison. they would be prosecuted. there were dozens and dozens of classified emails that were put onto an illegal server that was then destroyed, that was likely picked up by foreign intelligence, god knows what
countries have these classified emails that clinton was sending. she should have been held accountable and she wasn't. there was a conspiracy to insure that she was not prosecuted. >> bill: so you believe that has been proven based on her testimony. >> page was one of the top lawyers, a lawyer for the deputy director of the f.b.i. the whole thing was strange. the f.b.i. is not supposed to make these decisions. supposedly the attorney general lynch gives that decision making over to the f.b.i. none of this ever made sense. that's what page testified to. and the fact that she wasn't prosecuted on something that rank and file people in the military and intelligence community get prosecuted for is unfathomable. >> bill: james comey said the following. what i assure the american people this investigation was done completely, honestly and independently. no outside influence was brought to bear. >> i'm not sure what credibility comey has left. he went out and sold a book.
this guy brought tremendous disgrace on the f.b.i. we are still trying to get to the bottom and clean up what has been a total disaster for the f.b.i. and d.o.j. we're a long way from getting it cleaned up to get the f.b.i. and department of justice back on track so the american people have confidence in their capabilities. >> bill: let me go back to lindsey graham. he asked two questions. the second was the insurance policy that showed up in a text message. did they start the russia investigation, these are lindsey graham's word against president trump as an insurance policy in case he did win? do you think that's the case based on what you've seen? >> i've seen it numerous times. the insurance policy is more than just the investigation they opened up into the trump campaign and trump himself. really what the insurance policy has to do with is what is remaining of the classified documents that we have been fighting for them to be revealed as it relates to the fisa, the bruce orr302.
it would illuminate a lot of light on what the insurance policy was. >> bill: is bill barr wrestling with this as the attorney general? is bob mueller wrestling with this? i've heard a pretty consistent message from you for two years now. are these two men trying to figure out between them what is legit and what is illegal and what do we tell the american people? >> well look, at this point the mueller investigation went off the rails a long time ago. they have zero credibility. they have been looking for two years. they have no evidence of collusion. look, this would not be complicated to find collusion. that was the whole story. we were going to find evidence of trump colluding with russians to get dirt on hillary. not only has that never been proven. we have the opposite. we have the opposite is true. it's a fact. the clinton campaign hired christopher steele to talk to russians to get dirt on trump. that has never been prosecuted. what in the hell is mueller
doing? i have no idea. but the fact that it wouldn't take long to look at people's emails, cell phone calls, any type of land line calls, bank records. this is all stuff mueller has had. this is something that could take a month for the f.b.i. to actually go and do but instead this has gone on for two years. it is some kind of joke. $50 million of taxpayer money has been spent. so the mueller thing is off the rails. thankfully we have an attorney general and hopefully go in and start cleaning things up. >> bill: we shall see. appreciate your time today. devin nunes. thank you. >> sandra: any moment now jussie smollett. he has arrived at court. he arrived just moments ago. any moment now we'll see him. cameras will be rolling in the courtroom. the empire actor facing 16 counts of lying to police about an alleged staged hate crime attack. he is expected to enter a plea at the top of the hour. we'll take you there live when it begins.
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>> sandra: new york crime boss francesco cali murdered right outside his staten island home. the first big mob hit in decades. today's "new york post" cover reads gambino boss whacked. what's happening at the scene now? >> we're here and investigators continue to work the crime scene in this upscale neighborhood. it is called todt hill, neighbors say they heard shots ring out shortly after 9:00 p.m. last night. they found out their neighbor, a crime boss, was assassinated outside his home. investigators are walking towards us right now.
they have been in front of his home. his brick mansion is just beyond the yellow crime scene tape. the 53-year-old crime boss known as frankie boy was struck six times in the chest, torso area in front of his home. the person who called 911 said he was also run over by a vehicle after he was shot and then taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead. people who live here say they're all in shock over the violent murder of one of their neighbors. >> never thought something like that would happen. my mind is overworking thinking about it. it is bizarre. this is such a lovely neighborhood. nice neighborhood. >> cali was the alleged head of the gambino crime family and the first boss to be killed in the city since another former crime boss murdered in 1985 in manhattan. >> sandra: thank you.
>> bill: roger stone inside of a courtroom said to be in front of a judge in a matter of moments in washington, d.c. he will go up against the same judge who sentenced paul manafort to 3 1/2 more years in prison at this time yesterday. the former trump advisor could be sent to jail for violating a gag order. we don't know that but we're watching the proceeding for more information. in chicago another courtroom. jussie smollett is about to appear facing a 16-count indictment for lying to police. why his legal team made the argument to put cameras inside that courtroom. that's coming up next hour. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? great tasting, heart-healthy california walnuts.
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homophobic attack. his attorneys saying the judge's decision allowing camera's inside the courtroom will only help their case. [inaudible] >> bill: that's that. matt finn, more from the courthouse now. matt, good morning. >> good morning. once again jussie smollett arrived at the courtroom flanked by some of his siblings and their security. he had no comment. right now jussie smollett and his team are inside a courtroom. first off a trial judge will be assigned to smollett's case and then he and his team are expected to relocate to that particular judge's courtroom
where smollett sex pekted to enter a plea on the 16 new felony counts of lying to police. smollett's team says he will enter a not guilty plea on those 16 felony charges. a judge has ruled that a camera is allowed inside of the courtroom today because smollett's team alleges there have been so many false leaks in the case pointing to chicago police that they say they welcome cameras in the courtroom so the public can hear what they consider is the truth. mark geragos, the high-profile criminal defense attorney representing smollett was scheduled to be here today but now the crisis manager tells us geragos is not here because of a scheduling conflict. we do expect to hear from one of the defense attorneys from geragos's law firm after this morning's hearing. so we'll update you with what the attorney has to say after this morning's court proceeding. >> bill: thank you, matt. stand by there, matt finn in chicago. we'll catch it from here. thank you, sir. >> i'm running to serve you as the next president of the united states of america.
the only way for us to live up to the promise of america is to give it our all and to give it for all of us. we are truly now, more than ever, the last great hope of earth. >> sandra: that happened this morning. he announced that he is entering the already-crowded field of democrats running for president. beto o'rourke, here he is a few moments ago speaking in iowa to a crowd there. big news as the field grows bigger. >> bill: many anticipated this move after his run that many considered successful despite the fact he lost to ted cruz in the state of texas. a lot of young people are drawn to him and his level of energy. we'll see how he does as we move on in the democratic primary. >> sandra: he runs a positive campaign. i'm reminded looking back at the video from a few moments ago he was already taking on the green new deal and touting
the benefits of that and taking on any of the critics who have emerged in the wake of the debut of the green new deal. beto o'rourke formally in the race >> bill: what do we think about? it marc lotter, hugo gurdon. did we learn enough about beto's position when he a ran the race against ted cruz? >> we did. this is a candidate who openly embraced tearing down the border walls, decriminalizing coming into our country illegally. it's a race to the left, not a democratic party race. we should in the spirit of the season wish a happy st. patrick's day to robert francis o'rourke. >> sounds like a trump tweet, doesn't it? what do you think? >> look, beto, his positions are fairly clear in the broad spectrum of things.
a left winger, supports the green new deal as just noted he wants to tear down the wall. the wall is popular in texas. support 48%. that's one of the questions about his entry whether or not he can flip texas. i think the main thing is he is the liberal media's candidate. they see him as the second coming of bobby kennedy. i was watching one of the other channels this morning and they were wild and gushing over him saying how extraordinary and effective it was he got the cover of the "vanity fair" magazine. >> it was their gift to him. he is the candidate of the left. >> bill: do you have to go as far back as bobby kennedy? some think it's like barack obama the way he started. >> that's a very good point. the truth is he has got charisma, is appealing. he failed in the senate, but he is the one that -- you know, a few weeks ago "the washington examiner" ran a story talking about joe biden having problems with supporting segregation in the 1970s.
very significantly i think the "washington post" took up that story and sort of basically repeated it just recently. i take that as the left wing media's shot to biden not to get into the race. they want someone young. they want young blood and wowed by beto. >> sandra: the "vanity fair" article, in that piece he talks about wanting a more optimistic approach. one that doesn't let the president define the terms. he says he will spend the next 24 hours as we just saw him doing in iowa carefully steering allies to his idea of staging an upbeat march for truth, which would just happen to star el paso's best counter argument to donald trump, himself. >> it all sounds great. when you come out on day one endorsing the green new deal which earlier this week, america's largest labor union, no friend of republicans, generally speaking at the top, came out to warn congress this is going to cost millions of
blue collar americans their jobs, their family's livelihoods. we know that many blue collar workers support president trump. when labor leaders are coming out and slamming the green new deal as bad for jobs, bad for their members, that's a bad sign for democrats. >> bill: jessica tarlov joins us, too. nothing says blue collar worker like a piece in "vanity fair" and a photo shoot with andy -- >> what was most important to me i don't actually prepare before i go out there i speak from the heart and what comes to me. i think right now the democratic party is looking for people who can beat donald trump first and foremost. there is a lot of preparation that needs to go into that to get out there for that kind of race. the democratic primary will be very difficult to get through and i feel like before joe biden gets in or officially gets out, we can't really know what's going on. a lot of people will be moving around with their support if biden is in there including
independents and moderates and more liberal republicans who aren't big fans of donald trump. >> sandra: to further set this up here are some of o'rourke's policy positions. anti-border wall, voted against ice, vogted against kate's law, voted against trump tax cuts, supports single payer healthcare, voted against sanctioning iran. called law enforcement the new jim crowe. interesting sounds from newt gingrich weighing in in his announcement video he said he was born to do this. newt gingrich responded. >> i think that lincoln only had one term in the house and lost a senate race and ended up as an amazing president. maybe that will happen to beto o'rourke but i somehow doubt it. i love the line in the "vanity fair" piece where he says i was born to do this. there is a certain illusion here that the planet had a
magic moment and beto o'rourke showed up. >> bill: most of these politicians feel the same way. their moment. >> in is the most important election of their lifetime like the last one and the one before that. he feels he is born to it. i think that actually is sort of the privileged background and the sense almost of entitlement that -- with which he enters the race is probably going to be one of the things that put people off. >> bill: nothing like setting the bar high, huh? abraham lincoln. >> he is a very sparkly, exciting candidate. what he accomplished in texas, he fell short but coming within three points of ted cruz there is something that took the country by storm. he has a lot of very serious backers. a lot of former obama staffers, this is their guy. they were waiting to see if they went in before they looked at harris or joe biden. a number of other people. i think what he will do is he will sap some of the support
from bernie sanders, so those are running more in the centerline will be happy to see that happen. but i want to highlight something else in the interview i thought was important. he said i'm well aware of the fact i'm a white guy. that isn't reflective of where the party is and i'll make sure to staff up with diversity and my administration and team would reflect the country. there is an ongoing conversation within the democratic party about whether we need to be represented by a woman, by a minority person, and beto o'rourke is stepping right into that and acknowledging that. that conversation will race. i want to highlight a mayor did exceptionally well in his town hall this weekend. another young, exciting candidate and interesting for me at least to see how people line up on beto. >> bill: we'll have a long time to discuss this. i want to get onto the college admissions scandal. it has consumed the attention of the country. play senator kennedy, a comment from last night i do believe
with ed henry talking about the chuckle heads paying all this money to get into college. betsy devos is talking about students need to be considered on their merit. "wall street journal." the headline. the college admissions racket. universities are more innocent victims in in scandal. what about this? >> everyone has known for a long time it's rigged. what the scandal shows is that the people who are rich enough to pay half million dollar bribes are trying to give themselves an extra edge over privileged class. the real fear was these kids would not otherwise get in. there was no fear once they were in they would fail. which suggests that the college education is not challenging kids -- students nearly as much as it should be and that the 50 to 80,000 people are paying for tuition could be a waste of money. >> sandra: seems like it's the tip of the iceberg. >> i was at a dinner with media
folks last night. this is one of those few stories that it is not partisan, everyone is outraged by it. it is in a way uniting the country together in their opposition and outrage to what we're seeing these liberal hollywood elites do and abusing that privilege beyond what they already have financially. >> one big story is how the universities respond on this and whether or not there were people at the school in on it. >> i think there were 33 students that are currently in schools who benefited from the program. it is not a liberal hollywood problem. they're making felicity huffman and lori loughlin the face of this schedule. the head of ppg. a number of people republicans and democrats. it is not a partisan issue. >> bill: $1 million bail. colorado blasted by a bomb cyclone. powerful system of strong winds and heavy snow. national guard helping rescue
stranded drivers. that storm making its way to the midwest. we're live on the story from denver. what happened there, lisa? how are you doing? >> good morning, bill. we made it. colorado governor has declared a state of emergency in the aftermath of this bomb cyclone which sounds terrifying and what it is, it's an extreme and rapid drop in atmospheric pressure and creates the really dangerous winds that you were mentioning. 96 mile-per-hour winds record evidence at denver international airport yesterday where 1400 flights were canceled yesterday. another 600 today. it has been a mess for travelers on the road and those attempting to fly. >> got on it, backed away from the gate and said no, winds are too high. we can't de-ice the plane. they pulled back in and they made us get off. >> hundreds of people had to sleep at the airport for the fourth time since its opened they closed down all its
runways due to the weather. conditions were so bad and accidents so many, hundreds of drivers abandoned their vehicles on the interstate. jackknifed semi trucks prompted closures. a colorado state patrol corporal, daniel gross was killed while helping someone in a car that slid off the highway. he was hit by another driver who lost control of his car. excel reports 200,000 homes and businesses had power knocked out. crews were out this morning trying to get many of those downed and damaged power lines up and bill, schools were closed in many places in wyoming and colorado. >> bill: thanks. >> sandra: fox news alert from the hill. a new gop showdown with the president could be taking shape as the senate debates the energy resolution. >> bill: new transcripts from former f.b.i. attorney lisa page are now public.
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>> sandra: fox news alert from the hill. the senate debating right now a measure to reject president trump's declaration of a national emergency at the u.s./mexico border. that vote expected later today. the debate continues there on the floor. let's get to hogan gidley, deputy white house press secretary. have you talked to the president this morning, hogan? >> i have not talked to the president yet this morning. >> sandra: what are the expectations for today and the president's declaration of a national emergency and what happens in the senate? >> listen, the president is literally using powers granted by congress to enforce laws passed by congress. this is well within his constitutional duty and congress is still unhappy for some reason. make no mistake, this vote today if they oppose the president, they stand in opposition to the american people, to american communities and safety and security, because that's what this
measure does. for 40 years congress has had the opportunity to fix our laws and protect our people. they have not. the border has gotten worse. drugs are pouring across at record numbers, the exploitation of children and women who are often raped and often assaulted on that dangerous journey northward. and the democrats' only solution is to say open borders for all. in fact, what they really want to do is legalize illegal immigration. it makes no sense and this vote today draws a clear line in the sand of which party and which president actually stands for the american people and those who stand for those who are here illegally and unlawfully. >> bill: if it passes there could be several republicans, half a dozen who vote with them. will the president veto that, yes or no? >> he has said many times he would. we expect him to do that. >> bill: have you had conversations with republicans who have noted they'll vote yes which would be a rebuke to the white house afnd the commander-in-chief? >> there are several at the white house who have
conversations with those on the hill. the president has engaged a little bit with some of those who have expressed some concern. listen, this is something clearly outlined in the constitution that other presidents have used 58 times. the only reason they don't want to give him the authority is because it's donald trump himself. the fact is he can do this, he should do this, the american people need it and deserve it. there will be a few defections. i understand people gun shy considering what obama did, he used his office to try to create new laws. the president is trying to use his office to enforce the law. that is what he is supposed to do. >> sandra: the beautiful scene behind you is in preparation to welcome the prime minister of ireland. >> bill: yes, it looks like the color guard is amazing and doing a great job setting up for that later in the day. >> sandra: sticking with the subject. we know what the president has said this morning on twitter.
he said this, a big national emergency vote today by the united states senate on border security and the wall which is already under major construction. i am prepared to veto if necessary. the southern border is a national security and humanitarian nightmare. it can be easily fixed. has the president been reaching out to members of his own party this morning on this? >> i'm not aware of any calls he has made this morning. our teams are in constant communication at the staff level and with those who plan to cast this vote today. the fact is we know what's at stake here, the safety and security of the american people. lives are at risk. we see needless deaths every year, senseless deaths every year and quite frankly deaths that are 100% preventable. all we have to do is secure our borders. we've seen so much heartache and so much hurt and pain across this country by people who come to this country illegally. let's not pretend for one second this country isn't the most generous on the globe as
it relates to immigration. we allow 1.1 million people to come to this country the right way. we can't be responsible for those who come here illegally and now the democrats are the party of open borders and they have to own that. >> bill: lisa page it appears house republicans have gotten her to admit that the department of justice told them to shut down the investigation of hillary clinton's emails. what has the president told you about that? >> it's incredible. another example of what the president has been saying all along and more proof that he has been correct the entire time. he has said that this is a hoax. it is a witch hunt and fabricated at some of the highest levels now the proof comes out. at the highest levels of the doj and f.b.i. they worked against donald trump and for hillary clinton. we expect the american people to be outraged by this because when you can weaponize the largest law enforcement agency in the country against an american citizen, everyone should be outraged and everyone
should be deeply concerned by that. this president has been clear about what has happened and now every piece of evidence that comes out proves it furthermore that he was right. >> sandra: there is a couple big things happening this morning also including roger stone appearing in court. we saw him arrive earlier. this is former trump associate. he is going before the same judge as paul manafort yesterday where he received an additional prison sentence, roger stone entering the court. what is the president saying about this? >> nothing. we've had a lot of conversations in the last few days and i haven't heard him mention roger stone one time. this has nothing to do with the president. another attempt by the left and many in the mainstream media to tether donald trump to someone who has done something wrong on their own time with no connection to donald trump. the president has done nothing wrong but trying to link these two together is ridiculous. >> the trial date is november 5th to begin is what we
expected in the fall. do you have any hunch that the mueller report is about to be made public? >> i do not and i would not. we've been 100% cooperative with that investigation. given over millions of pieces of paper, countless hours in cooperation. but we expect what happens with the result is the same thing the president has said. this is a witch hunt, a hoax. the proof and the result will actually bear that out. and look, you can tell what's going on on capitol hill. check with the democrats. they are terrified this two year hoax is about to come to bear and prove them to be completely radical, completely wrong and show that donald trump did nothing wrong. all he is doing now is coming to this white house and righting all the wrongs, correcting all the ills of the previous administration. blowing up our economy to make it best in the world.
fixing unemployment for all groups, women, african-americans, hispanic americans and they don't like it and now they're understanding that they could have been taken in by the whole hoax themselves and they will be made to look quite foolish at the end of this. >> sandra: how is the president preparing for the release of that? >> look, we're not really preparing for it per se because the exoneration we expect is forthcoming. the president has done nothing wrong. he said it many times. we expect that when mr. mueller does put his report out, that it will prove everything the president said. just like the evidence is something now. >> bill: speculation was that the manafort case -- andrew weissmann a top prosecutor is going back to nyu. the speculation was that once that happens the pieces are lining up for mueller to reach his conclusion. do you buy into that? or any insight to add to that? >> i've had so many reporters come to my office that it will be this day and someone else says we know it will be this
day. we don't know. we expect it to come out whenever it's completed. when it is, we expect the result to be exactly what we've told the american people. the president has done nothing wrong and we expect his exoneration to be forthcoming and the democrats to be made to look quite foolish and quite frankly ridiculous for perpetrating a lie on the american people for this wrong. >> sandra: right now the house is voting on this non-binding resolution to publicize the mueller report. does the president think this report should be made public? >> i haven't spoken with him about that. i sure wish the house would vote on a resolution or the bills put forth by republicans that would actually protect children who have been born from abortions after they've been removed from the mother's womb. i wish they would take time to stand up for life at all phases as opposed to focusing on a phony witch hunt. democrats said they wanted to work with the president and get things done for infrastructure and healthcare.
instead they are moving on all these radical ideas. focus on life and moving the country forward in the future and that's how we succeed as a nation together. >> bill: beto o'rourke. >> it's robert francis. the hatch act looms. i can't talk much about the election. the president stands for the american people. now democrats at large have to answer for their new set of policies which is making american socialist, standing for people -- those who are born and killed outside the womb. they want that to be the norm. and they stand for a green new deal that would absolutely destroy this economy, ruin people in poverty across the world who rely on fossil fuels and would destroy american lives by making -- >> bill: just to follow on that you answered that question by calling him robert francis. is that how the president will refer to him?
>> he has called him that before. that's his name. why wouldn't he? >> sandra: just getting something in my ear there. this is a big day for the president awaiting the prime minister of ireland there behind you. we saw the preparations in place. how is the day shaping up for the president? he has been tweeting a bit this morning. there has been a lot of changes. we have a lot of court appearances, roger stone, paul manafort yesterday. a busy week, hogan. what is the president's plan? >> i'm sure he will talk to reporters today. there will be a pool spray in the oval office with the prime minister of ireland and the president is the most accessible president in history taking questions pretty much several days a week whether it's on the way to marine one, in the oval office and he will address the topics today. not afraid of anybody. his message is strong and you'll see that today. >> bill: on boeing, how long will the order last? >> nothing to add. the president had a good
conversation with the acting faa administrator and the secretary on the matter. new data and information came to light and the president made the decision out of the safety and security and precautionary measures for the american people let's ground the planes until further notice. that what is paramount is to make sure the american people are safe and why he made the move he made. >> sandra: hogan gidley, we appreciate your time. thank you. >> bill: 10:30 in new york. another alert on two major courtroom hearings we're watching. roger stone federal court in washington learning a moment ago the trial begins in november. actor jussie smollett said to face a judge in chicago. what we expect to happen inside his courtroom. a range of felony counts against him. we'll take you there live coming up shortly.
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paul manafort went before, for his prison time. his trial date was just announced, roger stone's, set to begin november 5. for more on this let's bring in mercedes. could what happened in the courtroom with paul manafort foreshadow what will happen here? >> how unusually aggressive this particular judge is. that's something he spoke about yesterday. so he could see that one of the biggest concerns the defense attorneys had today regarding stone is whether or not he would be held in contempt of a gag order. the judge was clear the last time he appeared mr. stone you are not to discuss this case publicly. the concern was somehow the public would be influenced and the prospective jurors would be influenced. >> judge jackson has put that to the side for the time being. stone signing a court order
about the conditions of his release. argument about the beginning of the proceeding about when stone knew about a paper back edition of a book being published and it jumps down talking about the gag order which he was in violation of. the judge put that aside for now and went forward with getting a schedule set which would be november. >> great, the other argument will be the defense attorney will have to think about whether or not stone can get a fair trial and whether he should at least contemplate moving the trial to another jurisdiction. given the publicity surrounding this case it is hard to know where they could move the case. >> sandra: he should be leaving the courthouse shortly. expect him to make my comments? >> i'm sure the judge admonished both sides to keep quiet. >> bill: we'll find that out together, aren't we? >> sandra: jussie smollett appearing in court in chicago. the judge will likely ask smollett to enter a plea. the cameras will be rolling.
we'll get a play back of that in the courtroom. his team made the case to have the cameras rolling. why do you think that was? >> i thought it was so foolish. you don't need cameras in the courtroom. most of my practice is in the federal court where cameras aren't permitted. when you have cameras it can become a circus. the judge could rule on it probably thinking -- >> bill: why did the defense attorney accept it? why would she argue on behalf of her client this is a good thing unless you are looking for more attention? >> or circus atmosphere. transparency at this stage. he will go in. we already know and foreshadowed he will plead not guilty. he is charged with 16 crimes. >> sandra: 16 felony counts. his attorneys have called prosecutorial overkill. right now he is free on bond. he is in the courtroom now and he maintains his innocence. >> completely. he will go in and plead not guilty and beyond that.
to your point the 16 charges, the defense attorneys saying this is extreme. what the prosecutor has done is taken every single lie and said it was an additional count of obstruction. >> bill: in addition to that you have the letter that was sent through the mail and apparently tied back to jussie smollett. that's a separate investigation other than what we're watching today. >> exactly right. you can have parallel state and federal charges. >> bill: you could argue that's a more serious matter? >> absolutely, conceivably. >> sandra: you look back at the hours and days that followed this alleged attack happening in the middle of the night and it was an amazing immense amount of resources thrown at this case and this investigation. tied up a lot of the police in the chicago area. the investigation was huge and cost a lot of money. >> they could seek restitution. we've seen precedent for it. when someone has done such
extreme shenanigans like this what he is accused of doing they can get restitution for it and it can be considerable. cases in the past the defendant has had to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay back the county and the state for will of this. >> bill: we had the attorney on for the two brothers in on it and received a check for $3500 and cashed that. do they skate? >> they'll be charged as well. these are all co-conspirators. >> bill: no chance of level of cooperation, you give us this and we'll give you that? >> that's a great point. they've already started to cooperate. we'll plead guilty or plead to a lesser crime but we'll come forward and actually testify against smollett. it will be really interesting. jurors don't like that. they look at the plea deals and say they are have insen -- this will be interesting how it will pan out. >> bill: we'll see it in 21
minutes and watch it together. another alert now from the hill. a lot of moving parts today, folks. the house has now passed this resolution that would make it mandatory to release the mueller report and make it public. where it goes from here we don't know. the democratic majority in the house has passed it. non-binding resolution. a statement of feeling or fact about how they feel about that. william barr, the a.g., ultimately has the call here. bob mueller does the report. gives it to the a.g. and decides what and how much is released to the public. >> sandra: as we await that boeing's newest model grounded across the globe. more on why the faa is changing course here and not letting those planes fly in u.s. skies. a former faa administrator will be here to weigh in on all of that next.
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mitt romney will vote to block the national emergency declared by the president and join mike lee, a republican, susan collins, lisa murcowski, thom tillis from north carolina and rand paul from kentucky. six votes again. hogan gidley was with us and confirmed the president will veto that resolution. it will still go forward. we will watch that and see what sort of legal battle ensues. >> sandra: the united states and more than 30 other countries around the world are grounding boeing's newest airplane. the ground the 8 and 9. satellite data showing similarities between the two deadly plane crashes have changed things. joining us former faa administrator barry valentine. good morning to you and thank you for coming on. so what was it about this satellite imagery of the latest crash that changed minds?
>> good morning. as i understand it, the satellite imagery suggested that the flight profile of the airplane involved in the ethiopian airline crash bears some similarity to the flight profile of the lion air crash and on that basis the faa has determined the prudent course of action would be to ground the airplanes for now as the investigation continues. >> bill: how long would an investigation such as this last? >> that's hard to know. here in the u.s., of course, the ntsb is the organization that does investigations of transportation accidents, including aircraft accidents. and usually they issue a preliminary report a few weeks into the investigation. but the completion of the
investigation and the final determination of the cause can take many months. because this is under the purchase -- purview of the ethiopian government and others assisting it is hard to tell how long it will take. it would depend on the nature of the information they get from the black boxes and from what they can determine from investigating the crash site itself. but i would expect it would take some time before we would have a conclusive determination as to cause. >> sandra: we were almost one of the last to ground these planes. why do you think it took the faa so long, barry? >> up to apparently the day before yesterday when they got the additional information, they did not have any indication based on the historic performance of this airplane. by which i mean when airplanes are flying they're constantly transmitting data about the performance of the airplane, about the performance of the
engines, its systems. as i understand it these airplanes have made 18,000 flights since they were introduced into the fleets around the world and logged 46,000 hours. none of that data showed or indicated any particular anomaly or problem with the airplane. on that basis the faa didn't have any facts to suggest that there was a particular problem. now with the information they got in the last couple of days, they've determined that the prudent thing to do would be to ground the airplane. >> bill: hogan gidley told us 20 minutes ago from the white house that the president said there was a different set of data that convinced him the grounding should happen. would that have been the satellite information or something else? >> that i don't know. i haven't seen any information detailing exactly what information the president received or for that matter in detail what information the faa received. >> bill: do you agree with this
decision, yes or no? >> yes, i do. it goes back to you make your decisions based on facts. now that there are facts available to suggest again possible similarities between the two accidents, what the faa has done is the prudent thing to do under the circumstances. >> sandra: they're grounded for now. the investigation could take some time. thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you very much. >> bill: breaking news, courtroom in chicago jussie smollett appearing before the judge in chicago moments ago. video where a judge was assigned to the case. he will reappear later this morning where he will enter a plea on 16 felony charges. we'll take you there live in a moment right after this. if you're a veteran homeowner and need money for your family, call newday usa. a newday va home loan lets you refinance your home and take out 54,000 dollars or more to pay credit card debt, or just put money in the bank. it even lowers your payments by over 600 dollars a month.
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>> bill: media giant shutting down for several hours yesterday. facebook was said to be down for 14 hours in some area. what will we do? charles payne, the money man, joins us now. facebook is down. >> sandra: if you know anybody, they couldn't believe it yesterday. >> it reminded me when the rod sterling twilight zones when you stop communication and mankind turns on itself.
you want to spark a civil war stop the inability for us to communicate for one day and we'll kill each other and that almost happened 14 hours of facebook and instagram being down. there is some controversy whether or not it was called a denial of service attack. facebook saying it wasn't. they don't know what it was. >> bill: they do not know. >> they are saying it was not a denial of service attack. the kind of attack that leaves a lot of people's information open to the would be attackers. >> sandra: there was a lot of theories out there about what is going on. did you notice those? >> the message boards, you got some crazy folks out there. facebook has their hands full. people, you shut down youtube and instagram, forget about it. >> bill: investigations about the data deals. >> apparently the eastern district of new york have interviewed two companies, about 150 companies entered into the deal with facebook and it was sort of they would have
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>> sandra: fox news aler. court action linked to the mueller investigation for the second day in a row. roger stone learning he will go on trial november 5th. welcome back to "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. stone learning about his trial date from the same judge who added 3 1/2 years to paul manafort's prison sentence right at this hour yesterday giving trump's former campaign chair a total of 7 1/2 years behind bars. >> sandra: catherine herridge is live at u.s. district court in washington this morning for us. good morning. >> well, sandra, good morning. in the last 15 minutes roger stone has left the district court here in washington the judge in this case has set a trial date for november 5th
with a pre-trial conference marked on the calendar now for september. stone was asked to sign an order today which lays out the condition of his release. that also has to do with the existing gag order that was not expanded today. right now under the gag order roger stone is free to fundraise. he is free to profess his innocence but restricted from discussing the case with any of the evidence. the reason that matters is the question today is whether judge jackson would even jail stone because there had been violations of the gag order with his coming book and a new explosive introduction to that book that's critical of the mueller probe. the judge decided to put that to one side and wanted to move forward a more productive manner. he is not going to jail at this time. >> sandra: what have we learned from the peter strzok
congressional transcript. >> house republicans have been waiting on the d.o.j. and f.b.i. to go through the transcripts and publicly release them but they've come up with a work around. gone to the house floor and entered the records into the congressional record. on peter strzok we're still going through the transcripts but we have confirmation that peter strzok told house investigators the federal statute for gross negligence, that was the most specific and relevant statute in the clinton email case but had no requirement for intent and that matters because what we heard consistently from the former f.b.i. director, d.o.j. and others during the clinton email investigation they wanted to find intent in order to prosecute. strzok also gave limited testimony on his extramarital affair with f.b.i. lawyer lisa page. he did not go into detail but admitted to house investigators that this affair would have provided a basis for blackmail
and that matters because peter strzok was one of the most senior people within the f.b.i. for counter intelligence. so that is something that we're still going through at this hour and we'll bring you morehead lines as we get them. >> sandra: thank you. >> bill: another alert. live look senate floor. lawmakers debating a resolution blocking the president's national emergency declaration. 10 minutes ago we got word the new senator from utah, mitt romney, the latest republican to announce he will vote for the resolution expected to pass. that is against the wishes of the white house. the president says he will veto it. here is hogan gidley from the white house on our program last hour. >> the president is literally using powers granted by congress to enforce laws passed by congress. this is well within his constitutional duty and congress is still unhappy for some reason. make no mistake. this vote today if they oppose
the president, they stand in opposition to the american people, to american communities and to safety and security. >> mike emanuel on the hill. a busy day already. let's begin with you. >> no surprise president trump is making his case for this border security national emergency on twitter writing prominent legal scholars agree that our actions to address the national emergency at the southern border and to protect the american people are both constitutional and expressly authorized by congress. if at a later date congress wants to update the law i'll support those efforts but today's issue is border security and crime. don't vote with pelosi. the dilemma for some senate republicans they worry that a future democrat president could declare national emergencies on gun control, climate change or thinking a deal could be struck to avoid the showdown. the senate majority leader says he is standing with president trump. >> these questions are not
especially difficult ones to answer. the president is operating within existing law and the crisis on our border is all too real. so i will vote to support the president's decision later today and i would encourage our colleagues to do the same. >> on the other side presidential candidate and new york democrat senator kristen gillibrand going after the president on twitter writing the real national emergency we're facing is a president who would cheat our constitution and force taxpayers to pay billions for a racist, pointless campaign promise. i'm voting to stop this recklessness. restrain trump's overreach and reject the wall again. >> it will be a critical test for our democracy. we are at a turning point, a real watershed for our democracy. the president is seizing power
unlawfully and unconstitutionally. >> six senate republicans saying they'll oppose the national emergency. the president retains veto power. >> mike emanuel watching that from the hill. thank you as we await the final outcome. >> sandra: we know the president right now is inside the white house. he just welcomed the prime minister of ireland ahead of st. patrick's day celebrations, a lunch today on capitol hill. they're meeting in the oval office now. the pool is in there. we'll get the video and play it back when it happens. they're taking questions right now and talk right now about brexit, immigration, nothing right now so far on the national declaration of an emergency to fund the border wall. but we do know that back and forth continues. >> bill: today is the day we get the bowl of shamrocks, too. the irish prime minister goes to the oval office and delivers. when it gets to us you'll see it here in a moment.
>> sandra: joining us now senator john thune of south dakota is the senate republican whip. senator thune, thank you. it has been a morning around here. a lot going on. that senate vote on the resolution against the president's declaration of a national emergency. we know six republicans voting to rebuke the president's decision there. what do you think? >> well, there are as you point out a number at least a handful of republicans that intend to vote for the resolution of disapproval. it won't be near the number to override the president's veto. the president will veto it. he doesn't have a veto majority in the house of representatives. i think in the end the president will move forward which is what's the most important issue here and that is that he has the resources that he needs to make sure that we are defending and securing our border in a way that protects the american people from all the elements that are coming across there.
whether it's traffickers, gangs. you look at drugs, all those things are coming across our southern border. it is important the president be able, through his administration, to protect our border and protect the american people. >> sandra: senator thune, everything you just said would show you are in full support of the president's decision to do this? >> i think it's important that he have the resources that he needs, sandra. we have members and i understand that, who are concerned about how he is accessing those resources. i think the one thing everybody agrees on, this is an emergency, an emergency from a security standpoint, an emergency from a humanitarian standpoint and that the president has the authority under the law, which we gave him. congress gave the administration or the executive branch of our government back in 1976 the authority to do this. i think that's established. there are a lot of our members concerned about the precedent it sets going forward. would like to see changes in that law. i'm certainly open to and supportive of efforts to do that. but for right now we have a
crisis that has to be addressed. the president is taking decisive action to address it and i expect he will be able to move forward because the vote today no matter how it turns out is not going to be of a sufficient number that it would override a veto that ultimately would come from him. >> sandra: let me tell you what the president has said so far today. he said a vote for today's resolution by republican senators is a vote for nancy pelosi, crime, and the open border democrats. if at a later date congress wants to update the law i will support those efforts but today's issue is border security and crime. don't vote with pelosi. he would be referencing those senators like mitt romney who became the sixth to vote yes on this resolution against trump's national emergency declaration. in the statement he made backing up his vote, mitt romney, he said i will vote today for the resolution of disapproval. this is a vote for the constitution and a vote for the balance of powers that is at
its core. senator thune. he said for the executive branch to override a law passed by congress would make it the ultimate power rather than a balancing power. to that you say what? >> i think that right now we've got a crisis at the border. we have gangs, drugs, traffickers, i hear it in my state of south dakota. a lot of methamphetamine that we have, which is the case at least in one part of our state tripled over last year and it is coming across the southern border. and i know that we have members who are concerned about separation of powers issues. those are valid terns. right now the president has the thord under the law, the authority that congress gave him under the law to do this. there is no question we have an emergency and he is trying to react to a crisis in a way that protects the american people and tries to get a very perilous and chaotic situation at our border under better control. i think in the end he will have
the authority and the resources to do that because the vote today is not in any way going to change the ultimate outcome. >> sandra: finally let me ask you about this, senator thune. looking at the names. senator romney became the sixth yes vote to disapprove of the declaration. on the record so far as yes are senators paul, collins, murcowski, tillis, and lee. do you expect others? >> there could be, sure. i think there are perhaps a handful of others. we know where most people are at this point. we won't ultimately know until people have an opportunity to cast their votes this afternoon and still some discussions going on with the white house about statements that the president might make. he has already made and tweeted this morning a statement that makes pretty clear his position. but as we continue to have these conversations and discussions we'll see how it might affect the vote total. the point here is there won't be anywhere near the number of votes that would be necessary to override the president's veto. >> sandra: got it.
senator thune. thank you, a busy morning on the hill. appreciate your time. >> bill: 12 minutes past. the lawsuits are flying in the wake of the college admissions scandal. students responding filing their own first federal class action lawsuit. the latest on operation varsity blues and one actress that is charged in that case. >> sandra: newly released testimony appearing to support allegations the obama justice department urged investigators to back off on charging hillary clinton. how top republicans are now reacting. >> why would you decide not to charge her before you even talked to her? the point is it seems to me they were going to make sure it didn't go too far. that the department of justice under loretta lynch -- country honorably.have serv whether it's two years, four years or thirty-two years like myself. one of the benefits we as a country
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>> bill: jussie smollett entering a plea a moment ago before the judge pleading not guilty to 16 felony counts for lying to police. there are cameras in the courtroom agreed to on behalf of the judge and both sides. we expect to get video. when that happens we'll share it with you. smollett's legal team is expected to address reporters. it will be -- we'll have this with us for the next hour or so. we'll let you know the updates when we get them. >> there were dozens of classified emails that were put
onto an illegal server that was then destroyed, that was likely picked up by foreign intelligence. god knows what countries have these classified emails. she should have been held accountable and she wasn't. there was an orchestrated effort to make sure she was not prosecuted. >> sandra: devin nunes reacting to newly released testimony from lisa page suggesting the justice department urged investigators to stand down on charging hillary clinton from mishandling classified information. congressman chris stewart. thank you for coming on "america's newsroom." what does this revelation tell us about what was happening at obama's justice department? >> well, i would say two things. first is it's very obvious. i was a military officer. if i had done what the secretary of state did and the way she handled highly classified information there is no question in my mind i would
have been prosecuted for that. no question that i would have been. she has a different standard. the second point is this, the more we learn about how the department of justice and f.b.i. interacted together and colluded with each other in making a conclusion before the investigation was complete, i defended director comey for five years and i think it's hilarious he is teaching an ethics course on leadership when he was one of the most unethical leaders the f.b.i. has had in a couple generations. he lied to the committee, he lied to congress, he lied to the president and he lied to the american people and we're getting more and more information that makes that absolutely clear. >> sandra: congressman nunes was on with us earlier talking about the mueller report and he suggests mueller is dragging his feet on releasing this report. just listen. >> what in the hell is mueller doing? i have no idea. but the fact that it wouldn't take long to look at people's
emails, cell phone calls, any type of landline calls, back records. this is all stuff mueller has had and something that could take a month for the f.b.i. to actually go and do. >> sandra: what is your expectation here? >> well look, i've been saying for months i wish the special prosecutor would finish his work. you have people who have had very serious accusations against them. not jaywalking, but accusations of treason. it has been hanging over their heads for two years and most of them are unfounded and simply not true. i think the special counsel has an obligation to the american people to do this as quickly as possible. the house intel, we completed our investigation more than a year ago. the senate intelligence committee has wrapped up their work. now i understand that he has a different charge. i understand he has other responsibilities. but i hope he will do it as quickly as possible. it is the only fair thing to do for these individuals who have been under this cloud for going on more than two years.
>> sandra: want to get this in here. i apologize, we have breaking news to get to. nancy pelosi a few minutes ago speaking at her news conference. she was asked if her position on impeachment would change as we've seen in recent days she backed off of that if the mueller report comes back with damming information about the president. she said it is not worth our time. she said impeachment has to be ironclad, not a political exercise. final thoughts. >> she has been calling for the president's impeachment and making accusations against him that are impeachable if true for two years. what she realized is the things she has said and chairman schiff and others said is not true. they've accused the president that they know there is no evidence of. the american people aren't stupid. they get that and think it's unfair to make these accusations and to move forward on impeachment when they know there is no basis for it. >> sandra: congressman.
apologize. have to end it there. breaking news. we want to get to the white house. the president is meeting with the prime minister of ireland. >> bill: a moment ago they wrapped up some comments and we're waiting for the tape playback to hit our machines here in new york and here we are. >> president trump: it's tearing the country apart. actually tearing a lot of countries apart and it is a shame it has to be that way. but i think we will stay right in our lanes. we're doing fantastically as a country. our economy is booming. we're the envy of the world. other economies are not doing well and we're doing record business. so we're very happy about that. and it's really great to have the prime minister of ireland with us. [inaudible question] >> he has a lot of hand movement. is he crazy or is that just the way he acts? i've never seen hand movement. i watched him a little while this morning doing i assume some kind of a news conference.
and i actually never seen anything quite like it. study it, i'm sure you'll agree. [inaudible question] >> president trump: whoever it is, i'll take them on, him or her. whoever it is i'll take him or her on. and i think with the economy doing so well, with all of the things we've done with the tax cuts, the biggest in the history of our country, tax cuts, with people having a lot more money in their pocket, with their 401k hitting record numbers. they've never been considered great investors by their wives or husbands, whatever it may be. now they're considered great investments. the market is hitting almost new highs. i have all the records. every single record i have. every single record for the stock market. so i think it's going to be tough to beat. if you look at african-american, if you look at hispanic or asian unemployment. we have the best records in the history of unemployment. we have the best records.
so i think it's going to be tough for somebody but you know what? whoever it is, it makes no difference to me whatsoever. [inaudible question] >> president trump: i missed it last time and i would have loved to have been there. it is a special place and i have a very warm spot for that, i will tell you that. it is just a great place. [inaudible question] >> how long do you think the planes will be grounded? >> president trump: i hope it's a short period of time. the biggest thing they have to find out what it is. i'm not sure that they know but i thought we had to do it. we had to take a cautionary route. the grounding of the planes yesterday was a big thing. the grounding was a big thing and it is a great company. it is a truly great company and hopefully they'll figure it out very quickly. that's a big decision. also one of our largest
exporters. one of our truly -- one of the truly great companies of the world. they have to figure it out fast. they know that. they're under great pressure. it wasn't that i was a supporter. i predicted it was going to happen and i was right and people laughed when i predicted it and they won by about two points. i was standing on turnberry and we had a press conference and people were screaming. it was the day before if you remember. i think you were there and people were screaming and i said no, i think it is going to happen. and people were surpriefsed i made the prediction because president obama made the opposite prediction and i was right. and i will tell you, i'm surprised at how badly it has all gone from the standpoint of the negotiation. but i gave the prime minister my ideas how to negotiate it. i think you would have been
successful. she didn't listen to that and that's fine. she has to do what she has to do. i think it could have been negligent yailted in a different manner. i hate to see everything being ripped apart right now. i don't think another vote would be possible because it would be very unfair to the people that won to say what do you mean you'll take another vote? that would be tough. i thought it would happen. it did happen. and both sides are very, very -- they're cemented in. it's a tough situation. frankly it's a shame. there was no reason for that to happen. they could have had the vote and it should have gone smoothly. very complicated issue. the issue on the border of ireland is one of the most complex points. i think they'll probably have to do something because right now they're in the midst of a very short period of time, the end of the month and they won't be able to do that. i would like to see that whole
situation with brexit worked out. i would like to see. we're talking to them about trade and how we can do a big trade deal with the u.k. we're also renegotiating our trade deal with the european groups. literally individual nations and also with the whole. but it's very sad to see what's happening there and there was no reason. i'm sure you agree with that. would you like to express your feelings on brexit? maybe i should not let you do it. i'll get you in trouble. >> we have a different opinion. i regret brexit is happening and the u.k. was an important part of the european union. they're going now. that's their decision. most important thing for us in ireland is that their decision to leave shouldn't cause any problems in northern ireland where people voted to stay and we shouldn't have a hard border or anything to disrupt the peace process. also we want to make sure we
still have trade between britain and ireland. i believe in free trade and i think it will be a few years until the u.k. sorts itself out. the european union is talking about trade with the u.s. >> we've been talking about trade. they were unwilling to negotiate with the obama administration and they were unwilling before that to be honest. i'm not just blaming president obama. they're willing to talk to us. if they don't talk to us we'll do something that will be severe economically. we'll tariff a lot of their products coming in. the european union treats us very, very unfairly. they treat the united states and they have been for many years, for decades they've treated us very unfairly. it will probably work out. they're negotiating. otherwise we'll do something that will be good for the united states. [inaudible question] >> president trump: i don't know what the vote will be.
i'll probably have to veto. it won't be overturned and the legal scholars say it's totally constitutional. it is very important. it is a border security vote. it is pure and simple, a vote for border security. we have a border situation also but slightly different than yours. ours is not actually complex. we have very bad laws that are archaic that were put in by democrats. the republicans didn't fight like they should have. a long time before me. we have catch and release and chain migration and all sorts of things that are horrible. the world is laughing at the laws that were passed with respect to us. and we are going to have a very strong border soon. we're building a lot of wall going up. i don't know if you see it or want to see it. we're building a lot of wall and a lot of contracts being let out tomorrow and over the next week for additional many,
many miles of wall. and we're going to have hundreds of miles of wall up fairly soon. it is going to make a very big difference. we also have to change the laws. whether it's visa lottery, whether it's chain migration, whether it's catch and release or anything else, they are horrible, horrible laws. i want to just commend our border patrol and ice what they've been doing. border patrol and our military has been fantastic. we're building a lot of the barbed wire areas where people were pouring through. they aren't going through. they've done a fantastic job. we built some temporary and permanent fencing with the military. they've done a fantastic job. the border patrol, they are capturing, catching, grabbing, doing whatever they have to do thousands of people. thousands of illegal aliens a month.
75,000 last month. the job they're doing. they are apprehending. call it whatever you like to use, but they are apprehending thousands and thousands of people a month. and we're catching them and we're keeping them. we aren't doing release. at a certain point we'll have to do some release because we don't have the bed space, we don't have the room and we don't have the funds to build new space because we have ridiculous laws. in other countries, leo, when you have somebody come in illegally you say sorry, you have the leave. in our country because the laws are so ridiculous. so stupid, we have to give them a trial. so we send them into the country, they're supposed to come back but they never come back. very rarely do they come back. the most ridiculous set of laws. the democrats' fault. we want to change them. unfortunately we need their votes, too. i think it will be a great election issue. anything else?
[inaudible question] >> i don't think they're cruel. the opposite of cruel. they become cruel because they're so ridiculous and it hurts people. it does the reverse of what they are supposed to be doing. but no, they are actually meant to be the opposite and they're hurting people. really hurting people. a lot of people. and i think that we have done an incredible job. we're apprehending record numbers of people. but if we had border security, if we had the wall, if we had a proper wall which we're building now as we speak, and we're getting a lot more funding for it as you know in what we're talking about in the vote today whether it's positive or not i'll veto it. the veto won't be overturned. we've done a great job at the border through apprehension. we shouldn't have to be put in a position of apprehending 75,000 people a month. we shouldn't be in that position. thank you all very much. i love being with the prime
minister of ireland. thank you very much. >> we're doing very well with china talks. they're doing very well. we'll see what happens. if it is not a great deal for us we won't make it. i would say that we're moving along at a very high level. we're getting what we have to get and i think we're getting it relatively quickly. the china talks are moving a lot. whether or not we'll strike a deal that i would never want to say. they're moving along very well. [inaudible question] >> thank you very much. thanks. [inaudible question]
>> president trump: thank you, everybody. >> bill: everybody is irish at the white house this weekend. st. patrick's day coming on sunday. the pool is being let out of the oval office. a lot of headlines. >> sandra: on the national emergency declaration and the vote that is happening now there are now seven republicans that say that they will oppose the president's declaration of a national emergency. he said he will probably have to veto that after the senate votes. he will not reconsider his decision to declare a national emergency. the world is laughing, he said, at our immigration laws. >> bill: talked about boeing being grounlded. i hope they're grounded for a short period of time. we had to do it on data they received in the last 24 hours. with the beto o'rourke, he is in it now and in the democratic primary. the president said he has a lot
of hand movements. is that crazy or is that how he acts? a preview of what is to come. jeff van drew, democrat from new jersey. what do you think about the argument the president is making about a strong economy, good markets, a lot of money? >> well, there is certainly some truth to that. the markets have been good. whether we can rely on that for year after year after year is going to be interesting. i think what's most important when he speaks about a national emergency look, let me be straight out. i'm a bipartisan individual. i don't necessarily think that everything the president does is wrong automatically or right automatically. i judge each situation individually. i believe in bipartisanship and i know in this house and in this date and time it is a very difficult goal to achieve. i'm keep pushing for it. however, this is where i do
think we've overreached. i believe that there are reasons for national emergencies. there have only been two national emergencies that have occurred recently. one was during -- both of them were during presidents that share the same name, the bushes. one was for 9/11 and the other one was for the iraq situation. >> bill: you are clearly against this one. you don't disagree this is a problem on the border. >> it is a real problem. >> bill: how do you get to the bottom of it? yesterday the president is talking about the amount of fen -- fentanyl coming in. >> first of all you work together, be more bipartisan. i believe that we should have a panel of experts who are non-political completely to come up with a plan that has the approval of both sides and most of all i think we should spend and use the $22 billion
that are there for structure and beds and there for -- >> bill: congress has fumbled that football for decades. i want to get into the other topic here. beto o'rourke is in the news. here he is in iowa talking about the green new deal. let's play that. >> some will criticize the green new deal for being too bold or being unmanageable. i tell you what, i haven't seen anything better that addresses the singular crisis that we face, a crisis that could at its worst lead to extinction. >> bill: i don't know how you feel about his candidacy generally speaking whether it's o'rourke or others running for the primary on the democratic side. how concerned are you about them tugging your party too far left? >> it's a concern. and i think it's important that all those who are in the middle
-- that's what i am. i will still maintain most americans are in the middle. they're a little right or the little left of the middle. the idea that we need to do something about climate change is clear. but the green new deal is too much, too radical, too fast and would change the entire structure of our nation. i am a capitalist, not a socialist. i'm a compassionate capitalist. i believe we can have a safety net. i believe that we can insure that people are taken care of but at the same time the nation that is based upon our constitution and our declaration of independence is a capitalist nation. >> bill: does too far left win or lose in 2020 against this economy and this president? >> we're still early into everything. there could be other candidates that may come forward. joe biden hasn't indicated what he is doing yet. this will be what i call one of
those deals where the proof is in the pudding and the devil is in the details. we'll find out. we're a long way off. who would have ever thought donald trump would be the president of the united states two years ago? we don't know what it is going to be yet. we have a lot to go. i will tell you this. this is an important point. people in the democratic party must realize that it's important to have people in the middle and to have the blue dog as part of the process. because i believe that you can't win without the middle being part of the process. i think it's very important. >> bill: it's hard to hear. there is a lot of background noise. who do you support? >> at this point we're looking at everybody but we're just waiting for candidates to make their announcements. >> bill: jeff van drew, come on back, the democrat from new jersey. you sound like a moderate. we'll see how far it goes. >> it has gone a long way over a lot of years through the state senate and assembly and other offices. sorry for the background noise.
it is not of my doing. take care. >> bill: understood. >> sandra: full house actress and dozens of others arrested in a college admissions cheating scandal. how the schools are now responding. >> to think that my spot could be taken by someone who didn't have to put in that effort makes me angry. d so much on my grad school loans. good thing i'm paying them off early now. yup! this is why i sofi. refinance your student loans with sofi, and you can save thousands. touch shows how we really feel. but does psoriasis ever get in the way? embrace the chance of 100% clear skin with taltz, the first and only treatment of its kind offering people with moderate to severe psoriasis a chance at 100% clear skin. with taltz, up to 90% of people quickly saw a significant improvement of their psoriasis plaques. don't use if you're allergic to taltz.
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>> sandra: tv stars and other wealthy parents caught up in the sweeping college admissions cheating scandal. lori loughlin among dozens accused for paying bribes for getting their children admitted to elite universities across the country. carol roth, former investment banker. i know in your opinion piece on fox news.com you make the case that you got yourself into elite universities, paid for it yourself, worked hard to get
there, and that what happened here took away from kids who were trying to do the same. >> absolutely. america is supposed to be the land of opportunity and the land and regardless of your economic status you have the ability for yourself to move upwards economically. that's what happened with me. my father was an electrician and didn't have a college education. i was the first person to get into school. i got into wharton based on working hard and having great extra kur i can you lars. not going to dances when my friends were. what it does it takes spots away from the kids who are working hard and sully the value of the education for people who did work hard. did you get at this the right way or did somebody cheat the system to get this? >> sandra: now we know at least one of the universities involved, usc, is doing something about it. hough are they going to dig into the matter and see how
deep this really was? >> usc put out a statement yesterday that anybody who is involved in this, it is still an alleged scheme. anybody who is involved in this current cycle if they've been admitted to the school aren't going to be allowed to come to the school. they'll look at those who are currently on campus and go back and look at graduates. i think it is not going to be just usc. i think you'll find a lot of the universities have to do this and make an example to show this is absolutely not acceptable. >> sandra: as far as some of the high-profile names that have been talked about is lori loughlin whose two daughters were enrolled at usc and both there were bribes involved to get them admitted to this university. in their case what do you think should happen to them whether they knew or did not know that their parents engaged in this activity to get them into the school. they're there and currently enrolled in the university.
what should happen? >> i hate to be the people's court on this. i think you need to look at the specific circumstances. i'm not certain if it was this particular case but i think it might be that at least one of them were admitted to the crew team when they didn't even row. so you saying that you didn't know that you were a part of this i find it hard to believe. the same thing about s.a.t. scores. i'm sure you know this when you took the s.a.t.s and got back the scores you did around as well as you expected. maybe not as well or a little better but you didn't pop up with a 1600 if you happen to be a b or c student. the fact that these people would say i'm not really sure what's going on. i think it's hard and i think it may end up affecting the kids who were involved. >> sandra: usc will conduct a case-by-case review of the current students and graduates connected to the scheme alleged by the government. we know it was actresses, ceos,
wealthy parents but some of the coaches that took bribes as well. some were past coaches, some are current coaches involved. you take this on in your piece and you write this. the headline is called cheating scandal should make blue collar families furious. you write hopefully an example will be made of the perpetrators to help preserve the notion that regardless of your background america truly does allow you to succeed on your merits. what will happen to those that were deeply engaged in this scandal? >> i certainly think they will lose their jobs and potentially have a difficult time finding employment if they were somebody who was on the coaching side. some of the people who committed fraudulent acts. some of these charitable donations went through the i.r.s. allegedly. i think they could end up seeing some jail time. but at the end of the day this is about perpetrating the have and have nots rhetoric that's
dividing the country and giving concrete examples of people who were wealthy who had every resource to do things the right way. to send their kids to the right schools, to get the tutors for the s.a.t.s still cheating the system. it flies in the face of america. there has to be some strong things that happen to every person who has involved and something different depending on the case. >> sandra: operation varsity blues. amazing to now learn what actually tipped investigators off into all this. it was uncovered by an unrelated securities fraud case is where they got this tip about an alleged, $400,000 bribe that was involved. we appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> bill: "outnumbered" comes up next. a quick preview. melissa and harris are ready to go. >> good to see you on this friday eve. new questions over whether the
obama justice department interfered improperly with the f.b.i.'s conclusions. we'll show you the newly revealed documents and debate it. >> senator warren dodging a question about whether president clinton should have resigned over the lewinsky scandal. not the only 2020 hopeful being hounded by me too issues. >> why don't we call it the clinton scandal? #in the middle is our single guy. we'll tell you who he is at the top of the hour. >> maybe because there are too many clinton scandals. >> bill: we'll see you in 12 minutes. jussie smollett pleading not guilty, 16 felony courts against him. details on what we have learned and legal analysis on why a camera is allowed. that's coming up.
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>> we'll need a plea. let me know if you want me to formally read the indictment. you can have me read it or waive reading and a plea of guilty or not guilty. >> we waive formal reading of the indictment and mr. smollett enters a plea of not guilty. >> bill: 16 count indictment for lying to police. investigators say he staged the attack against himself. heather hansen trying attorney with me in new york.
it was surprising the camera was allowed. everyone thought it was okay. >> we're seeing that more often. courts are supposed to be public. the supreme court should have cameras in the courtroom. here if no one is objecting the judge won't say it can't happen. >> bill: we'll see a lot of it. >> the judge said he has to be there at every hearing. he likes the spotlight. >> bill: you make a note prosecutors are elected in chicago. >> any time things are being seen. every step of the way it is going to make people act a little differently. i think the defense wants it to be completely transparent. they are concerned there has been overcharging here. we saw one act led to 16 counts. they want to make sure the public knows everything is happening to have some control. >> bill: what is he up against? >> at most i think he will probably get probation. he is up for one to three years for every one of those counts.
there could be a long time. usually they don't give that type. >> bill: he has a record that goes back 12 years, correct? does it come into play here? >> i don't think so. if he were to say i'll do community service and get help. this clearly came from a place where perhaps he needs to talk to somebody. so i think that those things could certainly help add in his favor. >> bill: you say a former senior obama official contacted a prosecutor last month. what is important about that? >> it's interesting. usa today reported that today. when they thought it was a hate crime. originally a lot of people jumped on this story before checking the background and listening to the story. usa today reported that one of the obama officials wanted it to go to the f.b.i. and said it was a better investigation. f.b.i. is investigating the letter he purportedly sent to himself. they may still be involved. >> bill: that will be managed on a federal charge. >> that could be major. attorneys may have a lot of work ahead of them. >> bill: today is that minor
compared to what he could face? >> yes. depends on what they charge him with. none has happened. the next hearing in april. this could move quickly and end up with probation. a federal crime of lying to f.b.i. investigators could be something bigger. >> bill: terrific guest. watch it go forward. you say april 17th. >> that's the next date. >> sandra: all eyes on capitol hill now as the senate debates a resolution blocking the president's national emergency declaration. do they have the votes? we're watching it. with my annuity, i know there is a guarantee. it's for my family, its for my self, its for my future. annuities can provide protected income for life. learn more at retire your risk dot org. the best simple salad ever?d great tasting, heart-healthy california walnuts. so simple, so good. get the recipes at walnuts.org.
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we need him to keep his word. >> bill: i don't know, was that enough for you? >> sandra: where do you want to start? >> bill: beto o'rourke, we saw that. roger stone. jussie smollett. >> sandra: how about what the news this? [laughs] >> bill: a couple votes in congress. still ongoing. >> sandra: jussie smollett appeared in chicago, pled not guilty to all 16 charges against him. the vote to overturn the president's declaration of a national emergency, seven republican yeses so far on that. and the president lunching with the ireland pen minister. >> bill: very nice. strikingly, center, how these election cycles begin earlier and earlier every year. you have beto o'rourke coming out, he's got a lot of options and a lot of attention. the present was asked about him. he said he's got a lot of hand movement. is he crazy, or is that how he acts? that was the initial reaction.
in hardwood gately said. was the group event. then he said, "do you want a more bite and right" who overdose, i will take him or her on. they'll be tough to beat." that's the word from the west wing. >> sandra: we will see you tomorrow at 9:00. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> melissa: fox news alert, president trump doubling down on his pledge to his first ever veto, as all eyes are in capitol hill republican senators are deciding whether to break with president trump on his national emergency declaration on the southern border. the senate is now debating, and is expected to vote later today. this is "outnumbered," and i'm melissa francis. here today, but don't like my partner, harris faulkner. fox news contributor, katie pavlich. syndicated radio host and fox news contributor fox news contributor, leslie marshall. joining us on the couch, former house speaker in fox's contributor, newt gingrich.