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♪ ed: we begin with a fox news alert on this saturday morning. after 675 days about $30 million of your taxpayer money, special counsel robert mueller is ending his investigation of alleged russian collusion with no more indictments. >> good morning, it is saturday. lots of news to get to. good to see you, pete. pete: good to see you will, pete. like dingdong the witch is dead. the report is there you have been waiting for it. we have been hearing about it forever. as ed mentioned 675 days, which feels like a lifetime. it cost you $25 million, thank goodness they got george papadopoulos. total indictments 34.
total indictments about collusion zero. big take away here. and as we have talked about, there is no indictment of the person that was supposed to be colluding with russia in the first place, donald trump. so, if you are sitting in the white house this morning, if you are a supporter of this president and believe he won the election fairly, you feel pretty darn vindicated that this report has been submitted. we don't know the details at all. submitted but no indictment of collusion. katie: that was the biggest news yesterday that came out without any of the text of the report released publicly and even to congress. attorney general william barr sent a letter to lawmakers yesterday on the house and senate judiciary committees saying he is going to brief them as soon as today. so we may get some information tomorrow about what's in the report. but, no further indictments means that president trump and his associates, meaning donald trump jr., jared kushner and other people on the campaign that were allegedly being looked into,
the media and many democrats said were going to be indicted, including former cia director john brennan, by the way. those are no longer coming. ed: you are right. john brennan. james comey. we will get to all of these folks over the next four hours who have been out there suggesting maybe the president will be indicted, maybe the president's family will be indicted. maybe his close aides will be indicted specifically what you were saying, pete, on collusion or conspiracy. a conspiracy to collude with the russians. instead, what you had were a whole bunch of indictments were about bank fraud. tax fraud and all the rest. important, certainly, you know, things that should not be laughed away or swept under the carpet in terms of paul manafort and others. but none of those indictments have to do with collusion or conspiracy. where this all started. where did it start? it started with that dossier which was paid for by the clinton campaign, paid for by the dnc. unverified information about that man on the right and,
remember what james comey said. under oath to congress. that he used a friend on the outside to leak memos to help force the appointment, the nomination of a special counsel in robert mueller his predecessor. katie: who paid for it the clinton campaign, the dnc. it started in a very political place and even now with its conclusion will continue to go to a political place. democrats now saying they want to hear from bill barr under oath that if robert mueller doesn't give them what they want, they will subpoena him to give them what they want. the goal posts are being moved as we speak. pete: boy, that's right. katie: about what they believe robert mueller did and what they think he was legitimate in doing. ed: he wants to send a subpoena to bob mueller. pete: bob mueller has been the savior. they want the report made
public which the president says he wants to do. now they want to bring him potentially before congress to ask him even more questions as if 625 days and $25 million and an army of top democrat lawyers was not enough. devin nunes was on our channel last night and had a little bit to say about all of this. listen. >> i think what you are seeing tonight is the unraveling of the biggest scandal in american history. biggest political scandal in american history i really believe what that is. people need to remember this actually likely dates back to 2005. early 2016 and this was began nothing more, nothing less than a clinton-obama operation with a bunch of dirty cops at the fbi and career justice department officials that were all part of it. quaw. ed: when he talks about dirty cops he is talking about comey and a bunch of people. pete: here is what bob mueller is like.
oh, man, we don't have anything. what do we do now? more manafort, papadopoulos? ed: roger stone? pete: all this hype and stuff and does way and looked into it there was no collusion. they had no obstruction. ed: however, we haven't seen the actual report when you go through the papers. we don't know if this is a 50 page report or 500 page report? it's all up to william barr as the new attorney general. while we wait, what you are seeing now is democrats trying to move the goal post and say it was never about mueller it's about the president's business dealings. they have a drum beat let's see the report. while they hope there is no new indictments there is damaging information in there. watch. >> if necessary we will call bob mueller or others before our committee. >> mueller has to come before congress and tell us its veracity. >> can you make that happen. >> yeah. we will subpoena him. >> the watch word is transparency. >> the rest and the house and senate accept what it says? >> i'm not going to draw any
conclusions until we see not only the whole report but the underlying findings and documentation. >> this is the end of the beginning. looking at the trump organization. ed: end of the beginning? ed: no, it's the end of the mueller report. end of the beginning proves democrats are going to take this okay, never mind. held up for two years. katie: we're going to read this later but that's okay. ed: it's crazy. katie: democrats are going to use this as an argument to say they are the sides of transparency house voted to release the report infull. many senators saying republicans and democrats saying it should be released. this report belongs to the american people. bill barr testified under oath when he was getting confirmed for the attorney general position that he would comply with releasing it in terms of looking at the special counsel regulations and release as
much as possible. you won't see all of it. ed: there will be redactions on national security grounds, you can bet. you are talking about look, no collusion but interference by the russians, right? so you will have information from the cia and others about what was going on that's going to be sensitive that should be redacted. then, there are justice department guidelines and this is very important that if any person in america is under investigation and not indicted, the justice department guidelines are you just don't throw out there a bunch of negative stuff saying we didn't indict him or her but they are really bad people that's why jim comey got in trouble with the clinton thing for doing that william barr has serious grounds to say i'm going to hold some of this information back. the democrats want that information. the negative information from mueller that's not indictable but is negative because they want to go after the president. pete: they will use every redaction possible to say they are hiding it, covering it up. make no mistake about it while in exxonner rates the president from any collusion or obstruction and we will get the text when we get it, there will be juicy nuggets.
there will be little pieces, portions of the report that other networks will cling on to for days or week week. ed: justify what he spent 25, $30 million on. katie: goes back to the point officials are making on the campaign trail. kamala harris tweeting how she wants bill barr under oath in front of congress. here is what he told a number of leaders on the house and senate judiciary committees yesterday in his letter to them. he said i am reviewing the report and anticipate that i may be in a position to advise you of the special counsel's principle conclusions as soon as as this weekend. i intend to consult with deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and special counsel mueller to determine what other information from the report can be released to congress and consistent with the law. i remain committed to as much transparency as possible. here he is again backing up what he was saying during his confirmation hearing. ed: there are two pieces to
that as soon as this weekend i may be able to share with congress and presumably the public key conclusions. perhaps no collusion. get that out there. just maybe help clear the president. we shall see what the details are. what the facts are but then he says and then work with congress and others to figure out what other information we'll put out there. maybe the whole report. i think it's important because bill barr has taken charge of this. the white house has been on defense for a couple years waiting. what's rosenstein doing? what's mueller doing? it's out of their hands now. it's in the hands of bill barr, who is a professional. i have got it. if the president is cleared. i'm getting those conclusions out there as soon as this weekend. pete: of course. katie: pete, the argument from the beginning is there was russian collusion. this is why the special counsel needed to be appointed and then moved to conspiracy and on strubsz of on jurisdiction of justice and now move to other arguments
the executive branch congress should not get a look before congress does despite it being an executive branch report. pete: reading to prepare for the show. no, no. trump can't see this first. he can't see the text or the executive branch can't see the text. i saw the op-ed yesterday or the day before from james comey which is basically laying the table for the fact that this is going to be nothing. ed: lower expectations. pete: i'm sure james comey knew nothing. katie: how soon narrative before the doj is. pete: i dare to you turn to the other channel that's what you will get all morning long. ed: a bunch of the people in the media as soon as it started trickling out it was in panic mode. wait, mueller didn't get the president? watch. [laughter] but now it's mueller time. there has never before been a president -- i mean, there has never been a -- who was investigated for potentially
being in the all there of a foreign power. remember, this really is just kind of the beginning. >> this barr summary is not going to suffice. the democrats are going to use every tool they have available to get this information. >> how can the president be pointed to as leading collusion with russia of aiding a russian conspiracy to interfere with our elections if none of his henchmen. none of his children, none of his associates have been indicted? how can they let trump off the hook? pete: what happens when your savior becomes the absolver of your enemy? that's what's happening for them right now. bob mueller was going to bring the heat on the man they hate utmost. and what if this report says no, actually, guys, you've spent 675 days yelling about nonsense, which some of us have said from the beginning. and now this report comes out. there's a few things in there. a couple bad business dealings in the past but ultimately trump just won the election. they will go nuts. katie: do you remember when republicans or when the
president dared to question robert mueller's motives, the moiives of some of the people who were working on the special counsel with their backgrounds as attorneys. members of congress repeatedly saying vote to protect robert mueller he needs to finish the job. when you questioned him, you were questioning the integrity of the investigation. you weren't trusting the system. you were attacking democracy because you didn't want to see what the results were in terms of russian collusion and meddling in the election. now when robert mueller hasn't given democrats what they want he is somehow not as credible as they wee have been told the last two years. ed: two years ago adam schiff said we have seen evidence there was collusion. that clearly is not true if bob mueller is not finding that evidence two years later. let's not get ahead of the facts. stick with the facts. who better to do that than ian prior department spokesman at the department of justice. deputy director public
affairs. former communications director for american crossroads. good morning to you. >> good morning. ed: what is your biggest take away from what we know right now? >> i don't think it can be said enough. bob mueller the former head of the fbi led a two-year evaluation with a staff mostly democrats and came back without charging any american with conspiring with russia to interfere with our elections or any american to obstruct justifiable. so i think the upshot here is this is a great day for the president. perhaps more importantly it's a great day for americans. not such a good day for the anti-trump cartel who thought that bob mueller was going to be the trump layer slayer. katie: massive distrust looking at how the fbi behaved in this investigation. the potential fisa abuse we have seen with reporting from catherine herridge yesterday with the doj being concerned about biased
forces driving fisa warrant applications. how does bill barr, the attorney general, move forward and in reestablishing trust inside the justice department with the american people as democrats say they may be covering things up by not releasing all of the reports. and by a number of people being very concerned about reforms that are necessary so this doesn't happen again? >> well, i think that's something that's going to be very important to barr. i think this is a good first step. i thought also yesterday there was a report that the inspector general is continuing to investigate the fisa issue. and as we know from the clinton investigation with the inspector general, sometimes that takes time. so i think they will wait on that. i don't know when that will come out. but when that does, then they will start making decisions and, you know, there could very well be criminal referrals after the inspector general report, we don't know. pete: ian, we spent the better part of the first two years of the trump presidency talking about this. we now have the report. we will learn what's in it
shortly. what should the american people take away from what's been done in our institutions in this investigation over the last two years? >> well, i think that they could be confident that this department of justice is not going to do things like the obama department of justice did. from the beginning, this investigation clearly with peter strzok and lisa page and andy mccabe, very suspect, obviously. to say least. but once it got into this department of justice, with rosenstein exercising oversight over mueller, clearly they ran this investigation fairly. they were not out to get the president. they were out to do what was right. and now, what we have, i think, is a political gift for the president. because you have all these democrats for two years that have been talking about how the president was an agent of russia. how the president was obstructing justice. how out president was going to shut down the mueller investigation. guess what? that's all b.s. and this investigation showed that. and the report, while i
don't think it's going to be the road map to impeachment that democrats think it's going to be. i think it's going to be far more sparse than that i think this is a good day like i said for the president. a better day for the united states of america. ed: you make a number of important points we heard from democrat after democrat we must protect a bill protect bob mueller act because this president is going to fire him. never ever happen. allow this investigation to come to a completion as you say. you also invoked the name of andy mccabe. let's hear from mccabe and others who have been pushing this anti-trump narrative and we will talk on the other side. >> you still believe the president could be a russian asset? >> i think it's possible. i think that's why we started our investigation. and i'm really anxious to see where director mueller concludes that. >> more and more i come to a conclusion that after the helsinki performance and since that i really do wonder whether the russians have something on him. >> i used the term that this is nothing short of
treasonous because it is the betrayal of the nation. he is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. pete: you gave them the benefit of the doubt by saying they weren't out to get him. they did a fair investigation. what if they were out to get him, which it looks like, and they still didn't find anything. >> when i said rosenstein and mueller weren't out to get them, as far as mccabe, page, strzok. i mean, clearly they made decisions and then they tried to fill in those decisions with facts that didn't exist. and that's ultimately the real issue here. i mean, you had john brennan who was the former head of the cia just a few weeks ago saying that there were going to be surprise indictment. if you go back to the russian indictments from february and july of last year, it said no americans willingly participated in any kind of conspiracy. that there was no evidence of that. it's kind of amazing that the former head of the cia couldn't figure that out by going back and reading those indictments. katie: so, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein is now staying on longer at the department of justice. there was some controversy
with him throughout this process. the allegations that he mentioned the 25th amendment. that of course was made by andrew mccabe who has been referred to the u.s. attorney in washington, d.c. for criminal investigation over lying. do you think rod rosenstein is going to have to explain further his comments about the 25th amendment in this instance? >> i don't know. it depends on if he gets called to testify in front of congress. the president has made statements about those conversations. one thing with mccabe a few weeks ago. he went on one show and say one thing and then he had to come back the next day day and say wait a minute. these weren't multiple conversations i said two nights ago it was pretty much in passing which is what rosenstein said. when it comes to mccabe, everything he says you have to take with a grain of salt. ed: ian prior we appreciate you breaking it down extremely well this morning. thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me.
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president trump's lawyers responding to the long awaited by some mueller report now in the hands of the attorney general. katie: garrett tenney is live in palm beach, florida where the president is spending the weekend. garrett? >> president trump has not weighed in on the release of the mueller report just yet. sources close to him say last night he was in a good mood and he was glad that the nearly two year investigation of the special counsel has finally come to an end. one reason in particular both he and his attorneys are pleased is that mueller did not recommend any additional indictments to the justice department in his letter. in his statement the president's outside attorney rudy giuliani told fox news this marks the end of the russia investigation. we await a disclosure of the facts. we are confident there is no finding of collusion by the president. this underscores what the president has been saying from the beginning he did nothing wrong.
sarah sanders reacted on twitter friday evening. the next are up to william barr and we look forward to it taking its course. have not been briefed on the special counsel's report. you may remember that rudy giuliani previously said the president's legal team may be coming up and releasing a report of its own to respond to mueller's report. at this point we are told no decision on that has been made quite yet because, like the rest of us, they are waiting to see exactly what mueller's report says. ed: garrett tenney live for us. the president down in mar-a-lago. katie: we want to bring in matt schlapp and presidential director for george w. bush. good morning. >> how are you, katie? katie: we are doing well. we know the report is done but the politics of this certainly is not. what is your response to the report being finished and where do we go from here? >> on election night i
remember feeling vindicated and kind of you for i can't. last night i felt exhausted. i felt like i lost two years talking about this ridiculous charge and i feel a lot of americans feel the same way. just exhausted from trying to answer and deflect on a bunch of charges we new to be false. and so i think i feel a great sense of relief. but i also feel like the nation has been victimized by spending an inordinate amount of time on a frivolous charge. pete: matt, thank you sore saying that. it's true. it's one thing to be happy. it's another thing to be enough already. is it finally over? we knew this a year and a half ago but we went through the paces. how will the white house react to this? how do you move past this unfortunate chapter? >> as far as the president is concerned and the white house, they ought to have a special bit of zip in their stride. the president has proven that he had done nothing
wrong. he has proven that he was right to be skeptical about the whole process. remember, pete, every modern republican president has gotten a special counsel. the democrats try this each and every time with special vehemence against trump. as far as the white house is concerned. i predict you will see a bump in his standing in the polls. you will see that his approval ratings will blip up and i also think the democrats are going to struggle to figure out how they explain to their base that they basically have been lying to them for two years. ed: matt, all fair points. i talked to one president's advisors last night who told me privately some in the president's inner circle is concerned this report is going to have some damaging information that it will essentially, i use the word essentially clear him on no collusion. it's going to have damaging information about mueller suggesting at least that maybe there was obstruction,maybe he believed there was. but because of justice department guidelines about not indicting a sitting
president, this coming from, again, advisor to the president telling me this last night on the phone. that they did not suggest an indictment because of those justice department guidelines. and so this advisor's point was there is still nervousness in the trump camp that there could be other shoes to drop. what do you say to that? >> this report is not going to be haleyography. not every word is not going to be glowing praise for the president. clearly mueller brought together a group of lawyers that had political animus against the president. they tried as hard as they could to find evidence of collusion it appears they found none. in the end, ed, politics is about a bottom line. and the bottom line is the special counsel was called to find collusion. and he found no collusion. i would tell that insider at the white house who maybe we all know that it's going to be okay because the american people are fair and they had
given it a very long and thorough hearing. even if you get the most partisan prosecutors pulled together to try to find evidence of wrongdoing. they found none. that's really in the end all that's going to matter. katie: matt, this special counsel investigation according to the media and democrats wasn't just about president trump. we heard a lot about diet be donald trump jr. going after jump, going after a number of people who worked on the trump campaign. that same must trump tower meeting was a big moment of discussion. yesterday the department of justice said they are no longer going to be pursuing any indictments in reference to the special counsel. let's listen to cia director john brennan, former director discussing just a couple of weeks ago how new indictments were coming down on the special counsel. >> there is a lot that special counsel's office has been. >> what do you smell coming between now and the final report from mueller?
what comes between. >> i smell more indictments. >> family members. >> i believe if there are going to be family members indicted by the special counsel it would be the final wrath of indictments. katie: matt, your response to that? >> i have been on cnn and ntsb msnbc a lot the last two years. ed: you have? >> i'm a good guy. i will accept an on air apology and a bottle. we can call it good. these people, mr. brennan, he has no shame. go away. you have lied to us for two years about this. apologize. move on, sir. we are tired of hearing you. pete: will there be any recognition on the left if the president is vindicated as the no indictment seems to suggest. will there be no move on? >> people like adam schiff cannot move on. their whole political persona they think they are watergateish and
reincarnation of sam irwin. he is not going to stop. it will be the about the next attack and the president's taxes. fair-minded american people large majority realize that enough is enough. let's start solving america's problems like the president has been doing without congress. ed: matt schlapp, we appreciate you coming in. pete: thanks, matt. >> thanks. ed: meanwhile 2020 democratic presidential hopefuls have narrative release the report. weighs in on the everstranging strategy next. ♪ maria ramirez! mom! maria! maria ramirez... mcdonald's is committing 150 million dollars in tuition assistance, education, and career advising programs... prof: maria ramirez
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paul manafort and a business associate of his rick gates. >> general flynn has entered a guilty plea in the investigation with the special counsel. >> talk about what michael flynn special counsel. >> no, i'm not. what has been shown is no collusion. >> we learned that an fbi agent has been removed from the russian special counsel probe for having political bias. >> the doj is finally combing through all those text messages that peter strzok sent to his alleged mistress lisa page. >> the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein getting grilled by lawmakers. >> did mr. mueller take appropriate action in this case? >> yes, he did. >> have you seen good cause to fire special counsel mueller? >> no. >> no, i'm not. >> today the special counsel robert mueller indicted 13 russian nationals, three russian companies for interfering in the 2016 election. >> there is no allegation in this indictment that any american was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. brian: deputy director of
the fbi andrew mccabe is gone. >> resignation of jeff sessions democrats quick to slam his acting replacement matthew whitaker. steve: the president's lawyers have crafted answers to a number of questions by robert mueller. >> president trump's former national security advisor michael flynn. >> the special counsel is recommending no jail-time for flynn. >> just before dawn this morning, the fbi raided the florida home of long-time trump advisor roger stone. steve: mr. manafort was not convicted for anything with russian collusion. he wound up with just a little under four years. brian: let's see if this is the beginning of the collapse of russian collusion or aberration. when mueller drops his report who knows it could be today. >> muellerens report has officially been submitted to the attorney general of the united states. the left's conspiracy theory is dead. it was buried. there was no collusion. ed: wow, 675 days of reporting, speculation. all kinds of stories in there the special counsel's
probe is finally over. our political panel is here to react. republican strategist holly turner, host of the michael knowles show michael pablo knowles and kevin chafts. you are the democrat here on the panel, we want to start with you. we heard allies of the president come out and say they are glad this is finally over and there is no collusion and they think the president vindicated what say you. >> it took a long time for us to get here but i would hesitate the president has been vindicated. you look at the course of the two years and this has been ongoing and 34 indictments have come down including his former campaign chairman paul manafort, rick gates. and this report being 134eu9ed tsubmitted toag barr dd of investigations relating to trump's contacts with russia or trump's contacts with other foreign entities. there is still a lot to be unpacked here. ed: such as what? let me jump in?
what do you mean this is not the end. robert muller has had all the money and prosecutors. it appears he hasn't found russian collusion? what else do you need to find. >> there are other related investigations going on like with the manhattan federal prosecutor's. ed: sure, other matters. >> other matters relating to his campaign funding and the way he spent campaign money. the trump organization. currently many of their people that need to come to the congress and later this month. i know felix sater will be before -- ed: let me jump in with mollie. that sounds like moving the goal post. we didn't find collusion let's see what the southern district of new york had. >> right. i wish the democrats will find some actual policies or issues to talk about going into 2020. but it looks like we are going to continue to talk about trump and his associates and possible criminal activity. i mean, look, the president was cleared. we will see the final report. but the president, there was no collusion. the president has been
cleared. he has been the most investigated man in the country for the past two years or more and will continue to be so, to be investigated to that degree. it's just unfortunate. today should be a day of celebration for the whole entire nation. but, instead, you are right, ed, the democrats are moving the goal post because this is a critical component of their 2020 platform. to get an all-clear from robert mueller really throws a wrench into their plans. ed: michael, you from the beginning have been accident oskeptical. >> the dog that caught the car. eventually reality reasserts itself. we have been told for two years watch mueller. we are going to get the mueller report. it's mueller time trump colluded with russia. eventually you have to answer for all of those predictions. none of that came true and so we seat reality. the i question that we have to ask now is on the democrat side of this. how did we get this dossier?
how did we get this whole investigation in the real investigation begins now of democrats. but, for president trump he has been totally vindicated on this front. and so the left is left either as the cynics who say okay, let's look at the southern district. okay, let's look at stormy daniels or they remain conspiracy theorist. ed: seems to be the line of kamala harris and others she says total transparency. bernie sanders full report needs to be. elizabeth warren release the mueller report. beto transparency. you get the idea. all saying essentially the same thing. so, kevin, is the goal post that we talked about moving, is it now, you know, clearly the attorney general will have a chance to make legitimate reactionlegitimate r. what do you make in terms of
the full report. >> i think we should sees a much of the report as possible. obviously we wouldn't see the grand jury or anything that came out of grand jury investigation because that's barred by rules of federal procedure. we should see what whatever is able to be made public and ag barr promised he would be as transparent as the law allowed him to be. that's what we need to see. when you say that the 2020 candidates are the ones that want this to be public. remember the house approved a measure 420 to zero saying they wanted it public. that was bipartisan support. ed: holly, who do you say about this. >> even the president has said he would like for this report to be made public. i agree. america deserves to see this. honestly we have been lied to by democrats for two years now. adam schiff said he had seen conclusive evidence that th the. unfortunately there are probably going to be some things in there that, you know, there are people caught up in this that. ed: we have to go.
>> it's unfortunate but we need to seat report. ed: michael, you are going to be joining us later this morning. we get the panel back lot to discuss and digest. lots of opinions. we will get back to you soon. >> thanks. ed: meanwhile, remember when the left accused the president of thriving to shut the probe down? >> president trump ordered the firing of special counsel robert mueller last june. >> in an effort to fire mueller. >> his attempt to fire mueller. >> the president want to stop the mueller investigation. ed: but hener actually did. the next guest says this is a total victory for the president. we will get his insight coming up. choosing my car insurance was the easiest decision ever. i switched to geico and saved hundreds.
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territorial defeat of the terrorist group. this ends a four-year battle against isis that once held land across a third of syria and iraq. entire towns forced to evacuate its historic flooding continues to sweep the mid west. missouri is under a state of emergency as the missouri river continues to rise. expected to crest at near record levels this morning. at least 12 levees have been breached. four people have died. violent storms with hail up to 2 inches of rain pounding the area. lots of stuff going on down in d.c. pete: remember when the left accused president trump of trying to shut down the mueller investigation? >> president trump ordered the firing of special counsel robert mueller last june. >> an effort to fire mueller. >> his attempt to fire mueller. >> president wants to stop the mueller investigation. >> trump tries to fire mueller. >> try to stop robert mueller from doing his job.
ed: never happened. what is the impact now that mueller's probe has been completed. katie: here to react constitutional law attorney jenna ellis. good morning. >> good morning. katie: what is your take this morning on the robert mueller being completed but not yet published to the american people? >> yeah. well, i haven't seen the democrats this dejected since donald trump won the 2016 election. this is a total win for the president. and americans deserve closure and the democrats must stop their politically motivated attacks to call for the immediate release of the full report they know is full-well is against the law and against proper process. this is what the democrats do. they don't like the outcome. then they simply want to change the rules. we are seeing that with their call to abolish the electoral college, lower the voting age to 16. with court packing on the supreme court. this has always been about the democrat liberal progressive agenda, not about the truth. pete: jenna, bill barr has the report. the white house can evoke executive privilege.
there may be certain things classified. ongoing things they don't want to release. what's the prudent thing to do once have you this document but you want this to be transparent as well? >> yeah. not just prudence but actually having to follow the law and the process. remember, congress allowed for the independent counsel's office to expire. so back in 1999, this the is clinton era procedure and regulation put in place for administrative law where now the special counsel reports directly to the attorney general. this report is required but there is a little scrub it has to go through to make sure there is not classified information that's released to make sure there is not grand jury testimony that has to remain confidential and also no defamatory statements or anything against anyone who wasn't indicted. so this isn't about transparency. this is about the democrats simply pushing their narrative and trying to say that the full report has to be released and if it doesn't immediately then somehow this is a coverup. that's simply not true. that's them ignoring the rule of law which
consistently do every single time when the narrative doesn't go their direction. the truth really has come out. again, this is a total win for the president. ed: all right. important facts to bring to the table. jenna ellis, appreciate you coming in. pete: thanks, jenna. appreciate it. >> thank you. pete: in case you are waking up, no new indictments. that's a far cry from what the liberal media has been reporting for years. do they owe america an apoll? do they owe you an apology? that's coming up next. being a usaa member, because of my service in the military, you pass that on to my kids. something that makes me happy. being able to pass down usaa to my girls means a lot to both of us. he's passing part of his heritage of being in the military. we're the edsons. my name is roger zapata. we're the tinch family, and we are usaa members for life. to begin your legacy, get an insurance quote today.
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ed: after 625 days mueller hands over the report. although we still don't have the details of the probe does owe america an apology. good morning, joe, what's your immediate reaction? >> well, the apology part, ed, i think you have to wait for that for a while based on the coverage i have already seen last night. what we are going to see now and you guys know this working the business, we will see a pivot. they are going to go, to many in the media, something else that is negative to the president in terms of investigation, whether it be tax returns or campaign finance violations. but, look, to the american
people, what they have heard for the past two years is what we have seen on every kyron on television, these little lower thirds below me or every headline or every newspaper. it's called the russia investigation for a reason. when you take russia and russia collusion out of this, it completely loses its impact. what we are going to get now is the iewb rus uberous of the defeated. see pundits tomorrow talking about other things besides this and an apology you will never get one because egos in this business don't allow for it, ed. pete: egos don't allow for it. then do we ever get news or reporting or was this for two years a manufactured crisis thrust upon the american people? ed: i have heard that phrase before? manufactured crisis? where have i heard that phrase before? >> we always hear about pushing a narrative in this business, right? people in this business having an agenda. i push back on that a little bit. this is a valid investigation. clearly it should get
coverage. but this was purely based on speculation, on leaks that didn't exist from people that weren't in the room either robert mueller or important people trying to hurt this presidency. now, here's the thing though. the boomerang reaction now will occur. i bet you will see the president's numbers start to rise. because this has been a very good week. isis caliphate has been destroyed and he has been cleared of any russian collusion. when that happens, like we saw with bill clinton in 1998, his approval rating went to 78 post impeachment. here see uptick for the president because they overplayed their hand. ed: appreciate your time, joe. alan dershowitz on debleg. stay wit.stay with us. this is your invitation to exhilaration.
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ed: we begin this hour again with a fox news alert. after 675 days, robert mueller's russia investigation is finally over. katie: on friday afternoon attorney general bill barr, who was recently confirmed, sent a letter to capitol hill to the senate judiciary committee and the house judiciary committee indicating that he has the report. it is finished. and he will be briefing relevant chairs and ranking members of those committees this weekend. pete: always a friday afternoon, which we appreciate here on "fox & friends weekend." so we get the news. we got it all morning for you. here's a couple of things to remember. this special counsel investigation has been going on for 675 days. total cost to you, 25 million bucks.
total indictments, 34. people, now, remember, 26 of those are russian nationals who will probably not ever leave russia. and three russian firms. total indictments about collusion zero. including the president of the united states. which is what so many on the left. so many invested in this investigation were hoping were happen that would prove russian collusion. when bob mueller delivers his report to bill barr which he did. we will learn more and more about what's actually in the report. there was no additional indictment. which means they are not charging collusion which means we are not sure. ed: we should have known something was up. two or three days ago chris hayes on msnbc says if robert mueller doesn't find collusion can we trust the report? after two years the media puffing this up and saying this was going to be their great hope in terms of taking down president trump number one. number two, let's not forget, you can't say this enough, leading democrats, chairman of important
committees like adam schiff said two years ago not that there might be collusion but he said i've seen evidence that there was collusion with russia. that is not true. katie: you had the fired deputy fbi director andrew mccabe who has been referred to the d.c. u.s. attorney for criminal investigation for lying saying that president trump may be a russian agent. not just someone who colluded with them to win the election. but in february, last month. saying he may be a russian agent. so that's where we are this morning with those claims. pete: pay specia special attentn to those investigated in this investigation move the goal post. yesterday you can't let the white house get a sneak peek. president trump can't get a sneak peek at this report. we have got to hear it first. let's see what else comes out. bob mueller has to come to capitol hill and testify now? was bob mueller credible? was the investigation compromised? these are the kinds of things you will continue to hear. i think -- i don't speak for
anybody. but if you have been watching news for the last two years you have been hearing russia, russia, russia, russia. it's almost like you want to have a sense of relief. but my feeling is it enough already? okay. finally the report is in. we have known it's a joke from the beginning. okay. now let's see. katie: according to congressman adam schiff it's not going to be over. ed: yeah. that's right. >> if necessary, we will call bob mueller or others before our committee. i would imagine that the judiciary committee may call the attorney general before its committee if necessary. at the end of the day, the department is under a statutory obligation to provide our committee with any information regarding significant intelligence activities, including counterintelligence and it's hard to imagine anything more significant than what bob mueller has been investigating. we have a right to be informed and we will demand to be informed about it. >> we will see what is made public. we will react to that and as i said, if it is not made
public in its entirety, we will take -- we will use compulsory process and we will subpoena the report. and, if necessary, we will -- we reserve the right to call mueller before the committee or maybe even barr before the committee. ed: jerry nadler chairs the house judiciary committee important because he would oversee any impeachment process if that would move forward. katie: impeachment has been part of the narrative when it comes to what democrats were hoping this report would provide. they thought it would provide indictments and crimes they could use as evidence to move forward with impeachment in the house. nancy pelosi for a couple of weeks has tried tamp down expectations on that narrative as we have seen and heard that maybe this report wouldn't bring much as we know now the justice department will not have any further indictments. according to the special counsel. pete: let's bring in somebody who know as lookout about this alan dershowitz. harvard aprofessor emeritus and bookcase against
impeaching trump. did the case against impeaching trump just get better. >> no question it got better. legally we know there will be no more indictments from the special counsel. but, be weary. this will be a one-sided report. it will draw every conceivable inference against the president. they did not hear exculpatory evidence. the witnesses against the president were not cross-examined. that's why i called for the attorney general not to release the report immediately but, first, turn it over to the trump defense team. let them write their rebuttal. let them be issued simultaneously. let the public then be able to judge the adversary process rather than looking at one-sided report. i think it's too early for the president to celebrate. he is off the hook legally as we all knew he would be. you can't indict a president for firing somebody who he is entitled to fire. and no such crime as collusion. is he not off the hook politically. i think this report will be very, very critical and it must be answered.
you know, i'm doing an introduction to a volume of the report. and i will certainly apply my critical ability of 50 years of practicing criminal law to look at what the conclusions of the report are. and, also, i will wait until the trump legal defense team has an opportunity to respond, so that i can evaluate both sides and give my readers and the american public a real sense of whether this is a strong or weak condemnation of the president. but it will being a condemnation of the president. katie: mr. dershowitz speaker of the house nancy pelosi and minority leader chuck schumer in the senate have already said that congress should get a first look at this report before the president does. can you explain that this is a separation of power issue when the executive branch owns the report, does the president have a right to see it before congress does? >> definitely, yes, number one. the president is the executive branch. number two, basic fairness requires that. you don't send a report,
which is one-sided over to your enemies in congress without having the subject of the report. have an opportunity to respond. the democratic members of congress don't want the president to respond. they want the news cycle to get out there oh, these are the accusations, these are the terrible things he did. and, wait two weeks or a month. maybe you will hear the other side. that's not the way due process or fairness should operate. so let's take a deep breath. let's understand, this is a long process. if it takes another few days, it's much better to hear both sides of the issue before jumping to conclusions. ed: for a couple years many republicans allied with the president have been going after robert mueller they may now like robert mueller. >> i don't think so. i think they are still going to be some criticism of mueller's one-sidedness. we have to wait and see. i do think the democrats will find some things in the
report to seize on. the report may also give a kind of road map for further investigations by the democrats in the house. by the southern district of new york. and by others. so this is the end of one very important phase of the investigation. but it's not the end of the entire investigation. democrats are determined to go, you know, slice by slice after the president through 80 subpoenas. 15 investigations. make it impossible for him to govern. there will be a court case against congress for misusing the authority of their investigation. remember, they are supposed to investigate for purposes of legislating. i remember i'm old enough to remember the mccarthy period when right wing republicans misused the house and american activities committee not to legislate but to expose. that's not a proper function of congress. ed: on that point, let's take a look at some in the media. some democrats as well who
made it seem like they already had the evidence and the president was going to go to jail. watch. >> the picture of russian collusion is coming into focus. >> president trump could be indicted, possibly face jail time after he leaves office. >> this is evidence of willingness to commit collusion. >> i think they will all end up together in prison. >> we are in a very dangerous moment. that's because we are looking at the possibility that the president of the united states and those around him during an election campaign doug colluded with a hostile foreign power. >> we are hearing a new word he said it was treason. >> again, adam schiff said he had evidence. he is not just somebody in the media. a pundit or something. he is a chairman of the house intelligence. why is there no accountability? katie: no indictment from mueller but plenty from the media and the democrats. >> i have to tell with you all due modesty i have been right from the very beginning. everything i have predicted about this apparently has now come true.
some in the media should be looking at themselves in the mirror and say we owe the american public an apology. there is no obstruction of justice. there is no unlawful collusion here. there is no treason. there's no impeachable offense. fess up, folks, admit you were wrong and that you mislead the american public. admit that maybe i was right. even though i have been condemned all over the place for being a kind of trump accolade. i'm a hillary clinton liberal democrat. i just call them as i see them. and i think i called them right this time. katie: someone else who has called it as they see it is the president of judicial watch tom fitton who has been at the forefront of exposing corruption at the fbi and the justice department. tom, good morning. >> good morning. katie: we want to get your response to the mueller report being done and where we go from here. >> well, the political consequences as any dossier like garbage that mueller's partisans try to put into
the report aside it's a major vind for the president. the fundamentals behind the mueller appointment, the collusion story has collapsed. i know democrats are going to argue about transparency. we have transparency. that's a side argument. but, president trump is much better off today than he was yesterday. and, in my view, we need to move on but not from accountability here. because you know, we have had this operation by mr. mueller going on for well over a year now. they concluded, i will guarantee you, they have had no substantial evidence since a year plus ago. that there was any russia collusion. certainly there was no obstruction. yet, this operation was allowed to distort our constitutional republic for a year-plus and harass the president and impede on his duties as president, impact the conduct of our foreign
policy. all as part of a democratic party operation. and for the democrats in congress, my view there -- they are as conflicted as anyone else involved in this attack on president trump. because, remember, it was their party, the democratic national committee that concocted this dossier that was the fundamental basis not only for the mueller investigation but the improprieties by the justice department and the fbi in terms of the spying and other activities. >> clinton camp. >> their party's credibility is on the line here. their cries about transparency should be taken as anyone else with a conflicted interest in this. >> you know who else's credibility is on the line, the fisa court. katie: absolutely. >> many civil libertarians has been concerned about it. it hears one sided information. it trusts the government to tell the truth. now we know the government didn't tell the truth. it withheld critical information. i want to see the fisa court
itself open up an investigation of the people who submitted a report for contempt of court. ed: james comey, people at the justice department. >> everyone who was responsible for not disclosing the source of the dossier mislead the court. if i were representing a defendant, i would be up there in two minutes seeking contempt proceedings. seeking to strike it seeking to invoke the fourth amendment. but the american public must be able to trust that fisa court. ed: tom, you want to jump in on that. >> the president needs to take steps to be tra transparent there. allen and i disagree slightly. fisa court part of the problem here. >> i agree. >> the government coming in and asking for four spy applications targeting president trump and his team. they held not one hearing about it. and they know what's been going on here and they have taken no steps. so we just have to figure out a better way in terms of allowing the executive
branch to conduct these so-called spying operations while providing a check. the court has provided no check and part of the problem. >> look, i have made a suggestion. the fisa court ought to appoint four lawyers who get security clearance who act as the devil's advocate. when the catholic church wants to make somebody a saint they appoint the devil's advocate to argue the opposing point of view. that's what ought to argue here. four people security clearance no, no, no, no. you shouldn't issue this report. this application is flawed. today you don't have anybody on the other side. so, one good thing about this whole thing is you conservatives are now becoming civil libertarians. thank you for joining me. thank you for finally seeing the light. katie: i want to get to it tom real quickly on what democrats are saying brian fallon who worked for hillary clinton in 2016 has said, look, the mueller report may be ending. this is what he tweeted. whatever is in the mueller report it ain't over until the southern district of new
york -- sovereign district of new york not sovereign district of new york are saying. democrats leaning on sovereign district of new york what do you have to say about that. >> abuse, baton was handed over in terms of abuse from the doj and fbi to mueller. now the baton they want to have the southern district pursue remember the u.s. attorney there the political appointee recused himself. you have essentially the deep state running the southern district investigation. i'm glad mrs. clinton is back here and her spokesman is back here because they need to be asked questions about what they knew and when about this fisa process. mrs. clinton is as responsible for what went on here as anyone else here in washington, d.c. you know, the left is going around tearing down statues of politicians from the 1800s. but we're not allowed to ask what hillary clinton did and what she was involved in two
years ago in this abuse targeting president trump. this was a big -- a big loss again for hillary clinton as it was for president trump. so, look, the southern district of new york, allen is rightalanis right. harassment of president trump. big lie put out by democrats. it was partisan that he was involved in treason and collusion with russia has collapsed. so, they want to pursue low rent harassing investigations investigations of president trump. i guess that's what they will do. it should be given with the same skepticism as the other big lies they have been pursuing for the last three years. pete: is that where they go low rent southern district? >> already what they have been done made life miserable for so many people close to the put. when they went after these people. and recollect look, these people committed crimes, manafort as judge ellis said they didn't want manafort they wanted him to sing and
compose. they weren't interested in cohen or stone, these are efforts to get at the president. that's the way special counsel operate because they come in with a mandate to find crimes against somebody who has a target on their back. i hope that won't continue. i hope we have ordinary investigations in the course of events not targeting people because of their political affiliation or closeness to the president. katie: tom fitton and alan dershowitz thank you for being here this morning we appreciate your insighted. >> you are welcome. katie: we begin with a fox news alert. off-duty officer has been shot and killed in chicago. it happened in a river north neighborhood overnight. the officer and another man were sitting in a parked car when two suspects fired into the vehicle. the officer was shot several times and died at the hospital. police are questioning people of interest and they are expected to give an update on the case at any minute. southwest, american, and united airlines will meet with boeing this weekend to review a software upgrade
for 737 max jets according to reuters. the planes have been grounded following two deadly crashes. they are now being tested in washington state where they are built. this weekend's meetings are assigned software update is nearly complete but will still need the faa's approval. pete: thank you, katie. in college basketball a flurry of upsets on day two of march madness, 13th seed ucer vine pulling off a stunning 70-64 upset over k state. liberty university alan dershowitz is wearing a liberty university tie which i saw during the interview. >> i was there yesterday. pete: you were there. >> there were 13,000 students at liberty. i made my speech. and then i said go liberty. pete: alan dershowitz rally. defeat mississippi state 08-76. well done, professor. top overall seed duke takes care of business beating north dakota state 85 to 60.
ed: it was tied early on. pete: the tourney is in full swing. love it. ed: who is dershowitz getting behind next? we have to follow that. >> liberty goes over the next one they have to play duke. i don't think that's going to quite work. katie: duke is taking it all in my humble opinion. >> next question. [laughter] >> i thought you were saying goodbye. ed: media predicted disaster for the mueller report. >> wall is closing in on him. >> the walls are closing in on him on russian collusion. pete: how is the trump team feeling about that probe now that it's over? corey lewandowski worked for his presidential campaign. he is on deck and now alan dershowitz is going to leave. [laughter]
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>> the president may feel the walls closing in on him. >> the walls are closing in on him. >> the more the walls close in on him. >> the walls are closing in on him on russian collusion. >> he is terrified of the russian investigation. is he terrified that the walls are closing in on him. katie: more like the walls are falling down. how is the trump team feeling that mueller has handed his report over to the justice department? let's ask former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski. good morning. your response? pete: smiles don't lie, corey. >> the walls clearly aren't closing in. this is a clear vindication. what i was excited about this morning and the "new york times" headline was we're sorry, mr. trump. we're sorry trump family. oh, of course, that will never happen. we will never see the apology from the mainstream media for all the things they said to malign this president about the fake russia collusion witch-hunt. the fact that adam schiff and eric swalwell have been
on every media outlet one year 10 months and six days saying they have proof of russia collusion has now fallen apart. i'm very, very ready to see the apology from all of those leftist, socialist who accused of us of crimes when the real crimes perpetuated were against us because of our political beliefs. pete: corey, i appreciate that and you are right. there will be no apology. yet, they will move the goal posts. whether a do you predict comes nexts because they can't stop hating the president? >> i think what's going to come next is they are going to say wall the mueller report was not the final. just the jumping off point. now we have to have continued investigations and we must turn the list of this over to the southern district of new york. you heard alan dershowitz and tom fitton talk about this. bottom line is the mueller investigators did not find one individual who colluded with russia from the campaign. there was not one indictment as it related to that. and don't forget these are the same individuals who tried to get dr. jerome corsi to sign a plea deal so he would plead guilty to something he never did.
they used gestapo type tactics against americans because they didn't like our politics. now the liberals on the left will say that we have to wait for the southern district of new york to see if they are going to prosecute or maybe there is something from the state of new york with the trump foundation. they will never let this go. they will overstep and they will continue to move impeachment proceedings against this president for him doing nothing but fighting for americans. ed: corey, you talk about gestapo tactics as you say particularly you talk about jerome corsey. he is an associate of roger stone and put out this statement. i feel vindication. they offered me a plea deal which i thought was fraudulent. i did not knowingly, willfully give them information i knew was false. the fact is i wasn't going to lie to keep myself out of prison. i did nothing wrong. it is clear i did nothing wrong or they would have prosecuted me. you can jump in on that. more broadly, i spoke to another trump ally like yourself overnight who told me that once this report is out there the gloves are going to come off. it's not just jerome corsi.
there is a whole bunch of other people who feel they were pressured by robert mueller and his people to lie about the president. >> ed, it's cost individuals hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend themselves against crimes that they didn't commit. this was a clear overreach by the u.s. government. people in power who use their badges and their guns to go after people at the trump campaign because they didn't like our politics. from jim comey to andy mccabe. what no one is talking about, what no one wants to remind everyone is that this entire report was fabricated because hillary clinton lost the election and took $5 million of her campaign money and hired a former british spy to create this false dossier. jim comey should be held accountable for his abuse of power. what you and i don't think is probably pretty egregious is his op-ed in the "new york times" looked when report comes out it will probably show there is no collusion. amazing how we had the frew do you tuesday timing to put that out as the report wars
coming. katie: the timing on that is very suspicious. speaking of moving forward here. you know, democrat, you talked about government overreach. democrats have issued 80-plus subpoenas for individuals or organizations associated with president trump. they did it because they said they couldn't wait for the mueller report to be finished. it is now finished. they will continue to move forward with those subpoenas. how do you think the white house can react and the campaign can react to that investigation that is now coming? >> well, i have to be very clear. i was one of the 81 people who they asked for information from. i have no information to give them. i have been clear. i testified in front of congress. they can go and read my transcripts. i spent 12 hours in front of the house. publicly that's all available to the committee members. there is no additional information. and with all due respect with-to-chairman nadler. this is clearly a fishing expedition to what is he doing and richard neil is doing from the ways and means committee trying to get the president's taxes and what adam schiff is trying to do to get people to pressure them to turn against the president to
fabricate stories that don't exist. they will continue to overreach and we will see that as the ballot box in november of 2020. because this mueller report is clearly vindicated the president and his entire team that there was no collusion. pete: enjoy this saturday. corey lewandowski, appreciate it. >> thank you. pete: big saturday, it's real news here on "fox & friends" on this saturday morning and as it is every saturday morning. dan bongino just tweeted he is about to drop some information about what's next on the russia probe. new stuff, i haven't heard it you haven't either. ed: breaking news right here. pete: coming up next. (in-store music) need a change of scenery? kayak searches hundreds of travel sites - even our competitors
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the weekend. garrett, good morning. >> good morning, y'all. at this point president trump has not weighed in publicly reacting to the completion of the mueller report. but, around this time is often when he will start tweeting on the weekends. we are keeping a close eye on his twitter account. sources close to the president though tell us last night he was in a good mood and his outside attorney rudy giuliani told fox news this marks the end of the russia investigation. we await a disclosure of the facts. we are confident that there is no finding of collusion by the president and this underscores what the president has been saying from the beginning that he did nothing wrong. white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders also reacted on twitter friday evening saying the next steps are up to attorney general barr and we look forward to the process taking its course. the white house has not received or been briefed on the special counsel's report. that is another thing we will be watching for over the next couple of days is how involved the white house will be in the summary of the mueller report which the attorney general will be submitting to congress if the white house decides to get involved at all. pete, ed, katie?
pete: thank you very much. katie: garrett tenney thank you so much. pete: bring in dan bongino author of "by gate, the attempted sabotage of donald j. trump." you have been all over this. what is the interview? >> here is what everything is missing on this. yes, there is no collusion. that's not the story. everybody who has followed this case has known for two years that there is no collusion. the real problem here is bob mueller did a thorough investigation, tens of millions of dollars. stacked his team with democrats. had people viciously trying to go after donald trump. and they could not vindicatiovindicateone thing inr which we now know was nearly the entire basis for the facebook case. the damaging thing is not collusion. everybody knew that the fbi presidented the president of the united states' team based on a dossier that laid out a collusion scandal that we now know conclusively was absolute garbage.
ed: and surveilled his campaign. >> surveilled his campaign and employed a human asset to spy on a political campaign and bob mueller could not vindicate one single collusion charge. how do we know that? he has never charged one single person with a conspiracy charge related to this russian collusion scandal laid out in the dossier. that's the big story i can't say this enough. katie: can you talk about the political consequences of this? because, clearly, the department of justice and the fbi were used as a political weapon for political purposes against a political campaign that they opposed. catherine herridge reported yesterday that the white house counsel under obama may have been briefed what was going on with the fisa applications which apparently some people that the doj were, you know, saying look, there may be a biased source here. we probably shouldn't move forward with this. is this just an overall picture of what happens when the federal government is used as a political weapon for political reasons?
>> great point. catherine herridge piece i think it's up on foxnews.com. it's a must read. we have new texts now from andy mccabe to lisa page. one of those texts specifically in october before the election mccabe is referencing a meeting at the white house, including the deputy director of the cia about this case. think about how devastating this is now. they format and base their entire case on a dossier we now know is complete garbage alleging a russian collusion scandal with carter page that never happened. now we know with mccabe texts that the white house is involved in this the entire time. they basically had a fake movie script they followed on donald trump that was nonsense fiction tale that they used to spy on, weaponize their intelligence assets. ed: so you are suggesting the fingerprints of the obama white house may be on this which may explain why john brennan has been out there making all kinds of wild charges about treason. >> and comey. ed: and james comey what i want to get.
to say look at what he did in june of 2017 and then we will talk about it. >> i woke up in the middle of the night on monday night because it didn't dawn on me originally that there might be corroboration for our conversation. there might be a tape. and my judgment was i needed to get that out into the public square. and so i asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with the reporter. i didn't do it myself for a variety of reasons but i asked him to because i thought that might prompt the appointment of a special counsel. ed: bottom line james comey was involved in that surveillance you are talking about to connect all of, this the fisa warrants. he is the man in charge of the fbi. the fbi and the justice department have to go to that fisa court that alan dershowitz was talking about. they used the phony dossier to get the surveillance. so you have that. what is he talking about there in the summer of 2017 is that he wrote these memos about his conversations with the president and used an outsider to leak them to force the appointment of a special counsel. what does that tell us? >> james comey, of all all
the reputational damage done yesterday john brennan, the barack obama team. jim comey leaves this in complete tatters. his reputation is finished. think about this now. multiple prongs for comey. he is the fbi director when they initiate an investigation based on a false dossier. he signs off on one of the fisa warrants to spy on an opposing presidential campaign. he gets fired, leaks information, a completely dishonest technique to get a special counsel appointed that finds, what? nothing basted on the charges he investigated the president on. now, ed, important point, here is the key take away. comey has very sincere devastating liability here. because the fbi has a procedure it's called out woods procedure. people have to sign off that the information, you raise your right hand and swear to in the courts. remember the woods file. this is going to come up. people have to sign off that the information is true. there are people's names that signed on this thing, including, by the way, john carlin who was at the department of justice
national security director who is one of the final guys who signed off on it he was conveniently. -- ed: explain that you say they have to swear what they're presenting to the fisa court is true and accurate? >> dossier components in the fisa someone at the fbi of a fant swore to or true woods file attached to it where people have to sign off that they have verified it. people who signed off on this all have extreme liability. they sign basically a fake file. ed: will they be held accountable? >> yes. this is where they are all in trouble. car lineal, who was one of the last guys in that, was conveniently bob mueller's old chief of staff. wait for the next shoe to drop, too. this is where it is going to get ugly now. now that mueller is finished with this investigation. mark my words on this show. watch for the ukraine thing to drop next. that's the real collusion scandal. katie: lindsey graham is also investigating fisa abuse. we will cover that i'm sure, as he holds hearings about what happened. dan bongino, thank you so much. >> that was fun.
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according to many in the media, most of the media and certainly the democratic party, it was very likely that president trump was either includin colluded or had colluded with russia and needed to be prosecuted as the president of the united states. this is insane but this became mainstream thinking for the democratic party politically speaking going forward i think they should have to answer for this. because the evidence was so paul tri all along, the theory was so bizarre and so unlikely and contrary to the evidence and that should effect the way americans feel about the democratic party's judgment across the board. pete: should democrats answer for that? >> i have been clear from the start and i shared that with you one time on this program. we should wait to see what happens. i know my friend buck sexton
wants to give premature vindication on what the report will be. we don't know. we can't speculate or talk about what we don't know. we should wait. what you will hear from democrats is why the republicans want to play hide and go seek we want transparency. pete: let's get ahead of ourself. >> can i say to my friend antwaanantjuan? pete: you will. let's say it's released and there is no close are you ready to move on. >> i am personally. whether you are a democrat or 2020 person should focus on mueller. i don't think our success is based on what happens in this report. i think our success will be how we talk about how we mo this country forward. i think the mueller investigation was just one part of what i think we need to know about what happened in 2016. so we can prevent this from happening again if there was something in the report that says because of what happened in 2016 it impacted our elections which we already know it did.
pete: buck, go ahead. >> i was going to say antjuan's position is more reasonable than you will see from democrats. >> i'm not running for president, buck. >> who are not going to want to move along at all. they are absolutely not going to say this is now proof. we have gone from saint mueller will get answers and justice to the american people to as soon as this report, the conclusions are finalized and out and american people will know what they're, you will hear a lot of southern district of new york. maybe we should see trump's taxes. >> buck, buck, buck, that's why i said you should not give the premature benediction because there are other people investigating and doing other things. >> it's not premature. it's not really possible at this point, antjuan, even putting aside that russian collusion was insane from the very beginning. not really possible that you can have mueller end the investigation if there was any member of the trump campaign, the president
himself and russian actors. >> we don't know is what we don't know. pete: antjuan, you have to acknowledge if there was something there we would know about it at this point. >> no. no, no, pete. pete and buck, listen, i am not going to talk about what i don't know. i'm not going to do it. but i will say do not close your ears to the fact that congress will hold this administration accountable. pete: my ears are wide open and i know buck's are waiting for an apology. >> hurry up and wait. pete: hurry up and wait we know a lot about that in the army. attorney general bill barr now promising to follow the law. a former doj lawyer is next to talk about the ag's message revealed in a letter to congressional leaders. last years' ad campaign
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♪ ♪ ed: the report is now in the hands of attorney general william barr and small number of close aides who will decide what happens next including if it will be made public. eight indicate are there any hints from the letter he sent to capitol hill. here to break it down is former doj lawsuit hans. what's your response to thi this? >> barr has made it clear he is going to do exactly what the regulations say he is supposed to do.
what everyone needs to keep in mind is this is a confidential report. that's true of all reports that prosecutors make in all criminal investigations. what the regulations say is he can release parts of the report or all of it if it's in the public interest. and i think what is he going to do is look at this and if there are any unproven allegations or criticisms made in the report, it's not in the public interest to release those. prosecutors are not supposed to make claims against individuals unless they are going to lead a prosecution and they can prove them in court. keep in mind, why was one of the reasons james comey was fired, remember, was because he came out and said well, there is insufficient evidence to prosecute hillary clinton but then he criticized her. that broke doj protocols. prosecutors are not suppose to do that. pete: here is excerpt from part of bill barr's letter.
i intend to consult with rosenstein and special counsel mueller to determine what other information from the report can be released to congress and the public consistent with the law i remain committed to as much transparency as possible. do you think they will yield to that? >> i think they will. to the extent that the report says that particular allegations that are made are not true that's going to come out. gyp, if there is any criticism that mueller has put in that he couldn't prove and wasn't sufficient for prosecution i don't think he will allow that to come out. that, in fact, is the way he should behave. pete: what's the difference between redaction and public backlash or the way it will be perceived if it's heavily redacted? >> well, i think the attorney general when it comes to redaction should explain. if there are redactions, it's because those are unproven allegations made
against an individual. and that would be fundamentally unfair to allow that to come out because those individuals don't have the chance to prove that they aren't true in a court of law. pete: unproven allegations against an individual. i never heard of that before. katie: hans, thank you so much. ed: our coverage of the mueller report and fallout continues. we have bret baier, mike huckabee, jason chaffetz, laura logan and gregg jarrett all coming up live. need a change of scenery? kayak searches hundreds of travel sites and filters by cabin class, wi-fi and more. so you can be confident
♪ ed: we begin with this fox news alert early on this saturday morning. robert mueller's investigation is over after 675 days and about $25 million in taxpayer money. pete: that's right. good morning, dingdong, the witch-hunt is done. at least for now, we think, maybe over. the report issued to william barr, the attorney general is now in his hands. the decision is what to release, how much to release and when to release it. the senior department of justice officials came out just recently and said special counsel mueller not recommending any further indictments and what that means, the headline on all of this is after all this
money, all these days after all this investigation no russian collusion found or indictment brought against president trump. katie: get you some details on what this investigation was all about. 675 days long. the total cost to you, the american taxpayer, more than $25.2 million. total indictments for 37 people, 26 of 34 people were russian nationals. total indictments about collusion, which we have heard a lot about, that number is zero. ed: we need to caution that we have not seen the report. the report has not gone public so we don't know what details will be in there. some people close to the president saying they are still waiting and watching very carefully what robert mueller will say on the separate issue of the allegations of obstruction of justice. again, no indictment brought against the president or any of his family members or close associates on the issue of collusion, conspiracy with russia. they are clearly breathing a sigh of relief about that. but waiting for the details
of the report. in the meantime, as the president wakes up this morning in palm beach, florida, mar-a-lago, he and pryor, a former top justice department official says this is a big day for the president. >> the former head of the fbi led a two-year investigation with a staff of mostly democrats and came back without charging any american with conspiring with russia to interfere with our elections or any american to obstruct justice. so i think the upshot here is this is a great day for the president, perhaps more importantly, it's a great day for americans. not such a good day for the anti-trump cartel who thought that bob mueller was going to be the trump slayer. katie: despite what we know now about the justice department saying no more indictments are coming down either for the president or the people around him, democrats are changing the goal post here. ed: wait, it's not over here? katie: it's not over. certainly not over when it comes to the politics of this whole thing. democrats are saying they want to see the whole
report. let's listen to them. >> if necessary, we will call bob mueller or others before our committee. >> mueller has to come before congress and tell us its veracity. >> make that happen? >> yeah. we will subpoena him. >> watch word is transparency. >> rest of the house and the senate accept what it says? >> i will not draw any conclusions until we see not only the whole report but the underlying findings and documentation. >> this is the end of the beginning. a number of other entities that will be looking at other aspects of the trump administration. more to compete pete i feel like stuff like that is discouraging to people. 675 days. all this money, all these lawyers all this washington power i said dingdong it's over. it's not. it almost feels like it never ends. the investigations will never stop. they don't accept the fact that president trump won an election he wasn't supposed to win. i think a lot of people are exhausted by. this and you wonder when
democrats will reach the reality. ed: yeah. pete: it's politically futile to continue this because they look foolish. ed: a mistake democrats made early on was getting ahead of the facts. revving their base up with the idea that maybe bob mueller was going to bring the president down. democrats like adam schiff early on saying flat out two years ago that they had evidence of russian collusion. someone who always sticks with the facts. never gets ahead of the story bret baier of course host of "special report." bret, good morning to you. it's good to have you. >> good morning. it's amazing they don't draw conclusions until they decide they do draw conclusions. [laughter] >> bret: in this case they don't. katie: bret, on that point, you know, a number of democrats have made very conclusive statements about collusion, obstruction of justice and now they are saying they want to wait to see what's in the report. but, for you, based in washington, d.c., mueller's findings on collusion aspect of this in terms of what we know with no further indictments are consistent with what the senate
intelligence committee came out with earlier in february with their bipartisan report. >> yeah. you know, we start every sentence with the caveat we don't know all the details yet and we expect to find out possibly as soon as this weekend from the attorney general some more top line conclusions from this report. but, if our reporting is accurate and we believe it to be, that senior doj officials say there will be no further indictments from mueller, that is significant. the other thing that's significant is that mueller made it to the end of the line without getting fired. the letter that the attorney general sent to the judiciary committee chairman and ranking members said there was not one single instance where the special counsel was interrupted from what he was going to do. think about how much air time and how much ink has been spilled on worrying whether mueller was going to be fired or that the president was somehow going to interfere with the investigation. that did not happen. and we know that to be 100 percent true from the
attorney general. pete: bret, stepping back from this, watching all of this 675 days, what's the biggest pit fall on either side or the biggest upshot. who is benefiting? who is losing from the fact that this report has been delivered with no indictment? >> bret: you know, first of all, i think chris wallace said it well last night on our show which he said everyone should be happy if the president is not dragged down in to something. you know, everyone should be happy that after 675 days, if that is the conclusion that they make, that the country moves on. i do think that there is going to be a lot of looking back and who said what when and if there's not evidence that they are moving forward with anything with regards to any connection to russia, there has been a lot said by all kinds of people. not only media folks but lawmakers that will be looked into.
you are right to say that democrats say now that, you know, mueller was never the main attraction. the main thing was the southern district of new york. it is quite stark to hear after all these days. >> bret: as you say, bret there are people in the media who may have a reckoning and people in the media and then the fbi and justice department about how they behaved. here is devin nunes and then we want you to react. >> i think what you are seeing tonight is the unraveling of the biggest scandal in american history. the biggest political scandal in american history. i really believe what that is. people need to remember, this actually likely dates back to late 2015, early 2016. and this was began nothing more, nothing less than a clinton-obama operation with a bunch of dirty cops at the fbi and career justice department officials that were all part of it. ed: bret, as you suggested a moment ago time to move on in some ways.
on the other hand, people want accountability of how we got here. >> yeah. that will be the big question, ed weather at the end of this as we believe they are not moving forward after this report, whether that part of it really gets investigated. we know that lindsey graham the head of the judiciary committee now in the senate has pledged to do that. but we just don't know how far it's going to go inside the doj under the attorney general. i do think we should also point out that if mueller comes out with a clean bill of health, if you will, for the president. and this report is as we suspect, that there isn't there there as far as connection to the president, you know, the other ways is worth looking at, too. for the folks that called mueller, you know, compromised and a dirty cop and everything. they may be looking back saying well, did he a good job. pete: that could be the irony of the moment how thought was going to be your savior is actually your
value day or two and it will be very interesting to see in the days and weeks and we know you will be covering it. bret baier, thank you for getting up early we appreciate it? >> thanks, guys. pete: let's bring in another guy mike huckabee he is on the phone. both sides will be looking at how this unfolds. your take this morning as bob mueller issues his report to the attorney general? >> well, there's a huge shortage in america right now because democrats and a lot of the anchors from networks are wearing those eggs as face masks. this has been an incredible revelation that all of this attention that has been donald trump somehow colluded with russians has now fizzled out. you know 20-something years ago you think maybe we would have learned something that the republicans made a big mistake by trying to go after bill clinton relentlessly and the whole move on movement was a simple attempt to try to say let's just get passed this.
and democrats came out way better because republicans overplayed their hand. i think this is a gift to donald trump. i think it ensures his re-election next year. and it makes a lot of democrats and a lot of anchors on many networks look like utter fools today. katie: governor huckabee, we can talk about reaction from media and people having egg on their face. there are very serious issues when it comes to the things that were said by former intelligence officials who were running the country and our intelligence agencies under barack obama. let's listen to what some of them said and we will get your reaction. >> do you still believe the president could be a russian asset? >> i think it's possible. i think that's why we started our investigation. and i'm really anxious to see where director mueller concludes that. >> more and more i come to a conclusion that after the helsinki performance and since that i really do wonder whether the russians
have something on him. >> i use the term that this is nothing short of treasonous because it is a betrayal of the nation. he is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. katie: so have you john brennan there, former director of the cia calling the president treasonous. you had andrew mccabe actually saying the special counsel investigation was launched because they thought president trump was not just colluding but a russian asset. what is your response to that? >> well, some of these people need to be frog marched across the lawn of a federal courthouse on their way being indicted for being really as it was said, dirty cops. devin nunes was just dead right. the abuse of power at the highest levels of the doj ands fband in the intelligence community is startling. the fact that there were people in the obama administration who colluded with the hillary clinton campaign. they paid the money for the
phony dossier in order to get the fisa warrant. all of this has really come down to the abuse of power and so, really it shouldn't be over. it shouldn't be over until some people are held accountable for abusing the power and authority of the u.s. government to bring down a presidential candidate. and i hope the president can move forward with really a powerful agenda that he has put forth. you know. i would love to see him use some of his extraordinary wealth to go after some of these people in the civil suit. he has the money to do it. and it might be a great way to hold some of them accountable to do what these attorneys have done to the really% could you tell us of those kids in kentucky. go after them civilly and make them pay. make them show up in court and answer for what they have done. ed: governor mike huckabee we always appreciate your insights on the weekends and all week long. thanks for coming in. >> you bet. take care. katie: turning now to your headlines. we begin with a fox news
alert. new video coming in moments ago as u.s.-backed forces celebrate their defeat of the final isis strong hold in syria. this ends a four-year battle against isis that once held land across a third of syria and iraq. lawyers for patriot's owner robert kraft say they are surprised and disappointed that prosecutors want to release videos in the prosecution case against their client. that's accord ing to "the washington post. prosecutors denying their requests to keep tapes from inside the florida spa from going public. kraft and 14 other men are charged with soliciting prosecution. kraft denies the allegations. and fema under fire this morning for sharing private information of more than 2 million disaster survivors. homeland security says the agency shared addresses and bank account information banwith a federal prosecutor helping people find temporary housing. some impacted are victims of hurricane harvey, erma and maria. officials say none of the
information has been compromised. entire towns forced to evacuate as historic flooding continues to sweep the midwest. missouri is under a state of emergency as the missouri river continues to rise and is expected to crest at near record levels this morning. at least 12 levees have breached and four people have died. further east of the d.c. area experiencing violent storms with hail and up to two inches of rain pounding the area. those are your headlines. ed: interesting thing. katie: floods are horrible. pete: robert mueller wrapped up and democratic presidential hopefuls picked their narrative release the report. does john delaney agree with his rivals? we will ask him live coming up next. i can't tell you who i am or what i witnessed, but i can tell you liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no... only pay for what you need.
pete: welcome back 2020 democratic hopefuls demanding that bob mueller's russia report be made public immediately. katie: congressman joins us now. your thoughts about what your fellow democrats are saying in terms of the mueller report saying it should be released in full and that they possibly want to have bill barr, the attorney general testify
under oath about the findings? >> well, i think the report should be released as well. listen, i'm happy that the mueller report is finally released. i think that's a good day for everyone because this has been so preoccupying for everyone. i think we should be commending robert mueller for doing his job and getting it done and rod rosenstein for obviously allowing him to do the work. i think it should be released the american people paid for it there has been so much controversy over this. it's in everyone's interest to have it released and i think attorney general barr has made it clear in his letter, at least, that he wants to release everything he can obviously there might be some things in the report that are highly classified, and could compromise an important source, so that can't be released. i suspect robert mueller wrote this report so that it could be released. i think the attorney general is indicating he is going to do the right thing which is to release the report. ed: congressman, you were honest a moment ago saying look this has been a distraction not just for the president but for the
country. some real talk here for your party. you've got jerry nadler out there subpoenaing 81 different people in trump world. you know -- you and i both know it's not over. some people in your party are going to just keep investigating him no matter. what do you think it's time for democrats to move on? >> you know, that's why it's so important to release the report. i mean, the truth is kind of the best, you know, defense or offense for everyone, depending upon your perspective. so, if we g report out there, we will know what's in it. everyone will know what's in it and then if the house on things that they discover in the report, they will have a basis to do that. and if they actually start continuing to do those investigations, and there was no basis in the report to do it, then people are going to ask them why they are doing it that's why i think we come back, you know, and we should stop speculating about what's in the report. we are hopefully going to know what's in the report and then we can move on as a
country one way or another. i think it's so important. pete: congressman, you laid out what may happen. i'm going to speculate for a second. >> okay. pete: let's say the report obviously there is no indictment we know that at this point. but there is going to be some things in there people don't like or things about trump world that democrats will want to seize on. is your counsel, as someone who is running for president, who would be in charge of the country and the democrat party, would your counsel be to them to walk away from the precipice of more investigations, impeachment talk or would your counsel be to if you see it keep going? >> my counsel would be god or the dell is in the details. right? so we actually, again, don't know and i know you are giving me a hypothetical. depending on what's in that report if there are things in there that are obviously damning to the president. remember, i don't think robert mueller believes he can indict a sitting president. i never thought there was any chance that he was going to try to indict the president because, no matter what he found, i don't think he believed he could do
that. and he would leave it up to the impeachment process in the congress. so, look, your hypothetical is if there is something in there that's damning to the president. i absolutely believe the house should continue its oversight and investigatory responsibilities and pursue it. if there is not, i don't think they should do it just for political reasons. katie: congressman, you talked about getting to the truth. democrats for two years have given all of their faith in robert mueller saying they would accept what he found. now you have the minority leader in the senate chuck schumer hedging on that saying they may have to look into it further. hans van say there were take outside allegations that were made that did not come to fruition that mueller could not then prosecute. in your mind as a democrat, what is the truth? what is transparency? and what means of pursuit should the house take based on that information is redacting allegations that were false or did it have any evidence count as going after the president on those
issues? >> again, i'm a big fan of robert mueller. i think he did his job. he is an american patriot. he served his country with great distinction. he had extraordinary resources available to him, right, through the special counsel office that he led. and he did obviously a very thorough investigation across two years. so we should release the report. you know, we all paid for it. the taxpayers of the united states paid for it it's been preoccupying our country the last two years. let's release the report. the only thing i would be in favor of not releasing is any classified information that compromises intelligence sources of the united states of america. once the report is released. then we can all sit around and kind of cast judgment on it based on what's in it. katie: wait, i want to follow up on that. >> sure. katie: are you in favor of releasing allegations that were made throughout this investigation that the special counsel did not get enough evidence on to prosecute? does that count as releasing
the report? or is that political? >> i don't think that's political. you know, i think, listen, everything -- i think even the president has said the report should be released. right? i think everyone benefits from the full release of the report. again, i'm not in favor of releasing classified information, obviously. i think everything else should get out there and people should be able to, you know, see what mr. mueller did with each aspect of this investigation. pete: exit question. you called bob mueller a patriot. do you believe our president is a patriot? >> listen, i don't go around questioning people's patriotism. i do believe the president. pete: you just went out and said bob mueller is a patriot. you cannot turn around and say that our sitting president is a patriot? >> you know, i believe the president does love his country, right, which is the definition of a patriot. i don't believe, however, that the president conducts himself in a way that makes him the leader that we need in this country.
i think is he highly divisive. he pits american against american. i don't think he is honest with the american people. pete: you can't say he is a patriot because that would would be a bad campaign sound clip if you said donald trump is a patriot? >> listen, i define a patriot as someone who is serving their country and cares about their country, right? that's how i define a patriot. the president is serving his country. and i have no doubt he doesn't care about his country. that's my definition of a patriot. ed: we appreciate you as a democrat running for presidency coming in and taking these questions. >> thank you. katie: mueller report being reviewed bith attorney general. former congressman jason chaffetz reacts as we take a look back at 675 days of the special counsel investigation. >> news breaking moments ago from the justice department. the appointment of a special counsel. >> the special counsel
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participant in this illegal activity. >> the special counsel is recommending no jail-time for flynn. >> the fbi raided the florida home of long time trump advisor roger stone. >> mr. manafort was not convicted for anything to do with russian collusion. >> robert's report has been officially submit to the attorney general of the united states. the left's conspiracy theory is dead it's buried and there was no collusion. pete: wow, looking back that was two years and one minute. think about how far we have come 675 days, $25 million. a team of democratic lawyers working with bob mueller investigating this president and his team to see if there was russian collusion. today we get the report to the ag with no further indictments. let's bring in jason chaffetz. former u.s. congressman. former chairman of the oversight and government reform committee and author of the deep state. congressman, thank you so much for being here. you've been a part of this thing unfolding. your reaction this morning? >> look, if you are in the
president's camp, obviously this is a big sigh of relief. the president has known from day one that there was no collusion and evidently there is no indictment. with yobut i think this is far from over. the democrats are so heavily invested in this narrative they can't get rid of it they have set the bar and release of the report. that's another play in their next move well, you must be siding something because you are not going to release the full router. but, looming in the weeds the worst nightmare for the democrats is still out there and that's the most consequential report that i think will come out and that's from michael horowitz, the inspector general about 90 days from now. that will have probably the biggest impact on what is the biggest scandal i think i have ever seen in my lifetime. >> congressman chaffetz brian fallon who worked for hillary clinton's 2016 campaign talked yesterday whether this report came out about how it's not over until the southern district of new york sings and now we
have media headlines today following suit with that talking point bloomberg saying trump circle in legal payroll despite end of mueller probe. the lands prosecutorial focus moves to new york. the "new york times" saying in that piece even as the special counsel robert mueller iii submitted his report to the justice department on friday, federal and state priewrgts are pursuing about a dozen other investigations that largely grew out of his work. all but ensuring that a legal threat will continue to loom over the trump presidency. what is your reaction now from them shifting from the mueller investigation is no longer giving us indictments. let's move to the southern district of new york and allege, again, that there are all of these legal perils for the trump administration and those who worked on the trump campaign. >> well, yeah. it's less than 24 hours and they have to change the narrative and change the focus and try to dismiss mueller as being incomplete.
i mean, it is absolutely stunning. the american people though will figure out. they will see passed. this you will see all these congressional investigations. everybody trying to look at their tax returns and what's going on with the trump hotel and it gets exhausting at some point because none of what adam schiff and swalwell and all these people have been telling us none of that, none of it is coming true. pete: congressman, somebody looking not so good this morning james comey, former fbi director fired. he wrote an op-ed. we will get to that. before that, his testimony from june of 2017. take a listen. >> i woke up in the middle of the night on monday night, because it didn't dawn on me originally, that there might be corroboration for our conversation. there might be a tape. my judgment was i needed to get that out into the public square. so i asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with the reporter. didn't do it myself for a variety of reasons but i asked him to because i thought that might prompt the appointment of a special
counsel. pete: he leaked to prompt the appointment of a special counsel. we'll read a little bit of his op-ed that changed his tune soon. your take on where he is now versus where he was then? >> the inspector general, michael horowitz, in a 500-plus page report, found director comey insubordinate. now, that is a very strong word from the inspector general talking about how james comey went beyond department norms and protocol in trying to set up and basically plant this trap to get this special counsel appointed in the first place. the inspector general report which is looming out there will look at payoffs and bribes, if you will, enticements to people within the fbi, giving them tickets and dinners and other things that normally fbi agents don't take the bait for but did clearly. you have an attorney general who potentially leaked classified information.
he planted stories within the media. this was all part of, i think, a conspiracy, a potential conspiracy with mr. mccabe, with peter strzok, with lisa page, with bruce ohr, with nellie ohr. this all ties back to what culminated in fisa abuse. remember, we heard testimony that if you don't have this dossier, then you don't get this fisa warrant and then you don't see this fine. that is the bigger political collusion we see out there. and why last night devin nunes says this is the heart of the political scandal. ed: congressman, despite all of the important abuses that you laid out, you have had james comey that pete referenced and andrew mccabe and all of these other figures pointing the finger at president trump again and again leaving out the idea in the case of mccabe on his book tour recently that maybe the president is a russian asset then a couple days ago he
comes out with op-ed even though i believe president trump is president of the united states i automatic not routing for mr. mueller to root he is a criminal. i'm not routing for mr. mueller to claim is he a president. i'm not routing for anything. i have no idea, he wrote, whether the special counsel will tkd tha conclude mr. trump conspired with the elections or that he obstructed justice. he doesn't care. he doesn't care? he is the guy comey who got the special counsel appointed. he and others have been pillaring this president for two years now. are they trying to rewrite history? >> they are trying to rewrite history. the dropping of that op-ed is highly suspicious. it comes within 48 hours or so of the dropping of this report? i'm sure that was just a coincidence. come on. mr. comey went above and beyond and democrats were the loudest opponents of mr. comey. they have now come to hey
there, must have been obstruction of justice. you go back to when the president was elected, the first thing they wanted to see was james comey fired for the way he handled hillary clinton. remember, this is why i don't think that most of the mueller report will be released. you cannot release grand jury information, source us and methods. classified information. grand jury testimony. the president has a prerogatives in terms of executive privilege. and, remember, the inspector general rebuked james comey for doing what you are not suppose you had to do. that is you can't talk about people who have not been indicted. that's why the democrats are going to flail about release the report when they know they can't do it. katie: congressman, there is a lot of talk about what has happened over the past two years. we want to look forward about what's going to happen in the future with accountability. you were chairman of the oversight committee in the house. lindsey graham now the chairman of the senate judiciary committee actually called for a special counsel, a new one to look into the fisa abuse that
allegedly occurred as part of the fbi's investigation into the trump campaign. where do we go from here in terms of accountability for that and preventing the justice department and fbi from being used as a political weapon against campaigns in the future? >> we need to pay attention to the mueller report in terms of what the russians actually were doing as we go into a new election. and that should be a bipartisan effort. no doubt about it. the inspector general report within about 90 days from now, that may lead to a special prosecutor. i happen to think there should be one in place based on the first report that we heard from the inspector general. but that's at the point where i think people need to be held accountable and potentially put into handcuffs. but the democrats are not going to let this go. they think that donald trump has done something. they just haven't been able to find out what it is. ed: you say handcuffs. seriously, you think people will be brought out in handcuffs? >> i think they should, ed.
i really do. i think the abuse of power that we are entrusted with the highest echelon within the fbi. these people way overstepped their bounds. they had a clear political agenda. they had animus. and i think the inspector general report will tell us one way or another if that should happen. but that's where this thing is headed. pete: good reminder on that report. katie: thank you, congressman chaffetz. we appreciate it? >> thank you. katie: turning now to your headlines. we begin with a fox news alert. an off duty officer has been shot and killed in chicago. police say two cops were sitting in a parked car when two men approached and fired into the vehicle. a 23-year-old officer died at the hospital. another man in the car was also wounded. he is undergoing surgery and is expect to survive. police are questioning one person of interest. in southwest, american and united airlines will meet with boeing this weekend to review a software upgrade for the 737 max jets according to reuters.
the planes have been grounded following two deadly crashes. they are being test you had in washington state where they are built. this weekend's meetings are a sign the software update is nearly complete. it will still need the faa's aprufl. and the president of the southern poverty law center is stepping down amid a series of high profile departures. richard cohen says the center is going through a difficult time following a recent audit. the center has drawn criticism in recent years accused of unfairly labeling conservative groups as bigots. those are your headlines. pete: oh we got an audit. now it's time to fire everybody. he had they had monster show continues. we have big guests still lined up. stay with us, gregg jarrett of course wrote an important book and lara logan their insights coming up. en your nose up to 38% more than cold medicine alone. (deep breath) breathe better, sleep better. breathe right.
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probe report with a source telling fox news is he not recommending any further indictments. katie: where do the reputations of the fbi, doj and mueller stand after two years of waiting? ed: joining us now is attorney renaissance man, fox news legal analyst and author of, yes, the russia hoax, gregg jarrett. katie: floor to you. pete: sound like a hoax this morning? >> impressive, you would say. i did what journalists do andidn't do and should do. i spent digging through testimony and i dug through the law. if you put those things together, you know that collusion was a hoax. ed: you looked at facts. >> i actually looked at facts. there has been no shortage of media malpractice in the age of trump. people in the mainstream media they allowed their personal animus and their political bias to blind them
facts of the law: and how soon did bob mueller's team know it was a hoax? pete: if you are looking at all the documentation, he has access to the documents and he is able to have interviews and interrogations how soon did they though? >> probably right away. because james comey and ladies and gentlemen behind closed doors in their private testimony confessed that we really didn't have any evidence when the special counsel was appointed. which means, by the way, that not only when the fbi initially launched their investigation, they violated regulations. but that also violated the very specific special counsel regulations. this was a search for a crime, an investigation in search of a crime. that's the opposite of what the law demands. katie: let's take a look behind the curtain on some of these agencies. so the fbi deputy fbi director andrew mccabe was fired. he has been referred for a criminal investigation. i mean may see more of that
as the inspector general investigates. this you have lisa page who is no longer at the fbi. she was an attorney for them. you have other players. >> peter strzok fired. katie: peter strzok fired possibly facing legal ramifications. what does it mean for accountability and moving forward with the american people being able to restore their trust in these federal institutions that have all of this power to change and ruin people's lives overnight? >> thanks to james comey, andrew mccabe, peter strzok, lisa page the people you mentioned who are no lodgesser there they ruined the credibility of a very fine institution where a vast majority of the agents there are honest, honorable people who work hard to keep us safe every day. and it will take probably a decade to restore the america's trust in that fine institution, the fbi. it was assess poo a cesspool of corruption. they undertook this very clear scheme to frame donald trump.
ed: the russia hoax? pete: the mueller report is out and it's right here it's called the russia hoax. katie: great to see you, gregg u. pete: for years the so-called mainstream media which is the left wing media wanted you to believe the president had something to hide. >> the picture of russia collusion coming into focus. >> president trump could be indicted and possibly face jail time. >> his attempt it fire mueller. >> try stop robert mueller from doing his job. [static] >> lara logan with the media flaps now that the investigation is complete. how smart is that? smarter sleep. so you can come out swinging, maintain your inner focus, and wake up rested and ready for anything. sleep number is ranked #1 in customer satisfaction
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>> a picture of russian collusion is coming into focus. >> president trump could be indicted and possibly face jail time. >> his attempt to fire mueller. >> trying to stop robert mueller from doing his job. >> this is evidence of willingness to commit collusion. >> we are hearing a new word, right? he said it was treason. be. ed: treason. could face jail time. the media spending years claiming bombshells during this special counsel investigation. katie: now we know the special counsel won't name any new indictments, where does the media stand here to react former cbs news correspondent lara logan welcome to the show.
>> good morning. katie: what is your response now to a lot of these media narratives about the president being impeached, going to jail. obvious evidence of collusion which didn't exist now falling apart? >> >> it's always bothered me as a journalist. i care about what the law says and what the facts are. and collusion is not a crime, right? the closest crime that you have to that would be charging people with conspiracy. there is something else that bothers me with much of the reporting on this from the beginning is that you keep seeing high-up featured prominently in many articles. this line that six members of the trump campaign have been indicted by the mueller investigation. but you don't read in the same space right there nobody writes although none of them were charged with conspiracy with russia the central question of the mueller investigation. that always comes way, way, way down further in the reporting. and that, to me, it's a very simple fix, if you are
really trying to be objective, you can say six people were charged, but none of those charges had anything to do with conspiring with russia. that gives -- that doesn't mislead the reader or the viewer, right? because it's very clear what people were charged with and that it's not related to conspiracy or to the central focus of the mueller investigation. that as a journalist, i find it disappointing that people will create one impression with their reporting, correct it later and then claim that they have been honest and objective. pete: lara, do you think in that business of journalism will have a reckoning with the facts? they have said all along wait for mueller. here he is. we will soon see the report. will it be reported honestly? >> well, you know, that's one of those questions where i say to you i'm not a prophet, right? and i don't have the answers to everything. i haven't seen anything this morning. i was scouring the headlines online and i was listening to different reports on the radio. one of them by npr, for
example, said the muriel investigation, how di -- mueller investigation, how did we get here nice excuse to rehash all the investigations and charges and accusations against the president. you know, what i would say is this. my question is this: if charges had been brought against the president, then the headlines would all be screaming about, you know, victory, right, for the left. vindication. this proves that what the left has been saying is right. now, no charges have been brought but i don't see screaming headlines that say this vindicates the president. ed: we will see. >> we don't know what we don't know yet. ed: that's right. we have to wait for the facts. pardon me. we have to get to a brake. lara logan thanks for coming in. chris coons. democratic senator coming up.
ed: we begin this hour again with this fox news alert. robert mueller's investigation is over, his report has been turned over to the attorney general of the united states, william barr the one word headline in the new york post this morning, "finally." katie: big headline on the front page of the new york post this morning new york times also covering this we have learned overnight and yesterday almost immediately after the report was announced as finished that the special counsel will not be recommending any further indictments, which means president trump and his
associates at the campaign, his family members, will not be indicted by the special counsel as many people have predicted or said would absolutely happen. ed: falsely predicted, wrongly predicted again and again adam schiff, a leading democrat this is not a pundit, the chairman of the house intelligence committee , two years ago, said flatly, he had seen evidence that there was collusion with russia. that turns out to be false. pete: speaking of two years ago in case you're doing the math at home, the total amount of time of this special counsel investigation, 675 days, total cost to you the taxpayer? over $25 million, total number of indictments, 37. now take this. 26 of those were russian nationals who will never see justice. total indictments about collusion? zero. we've got the cover this morning of the failing new york times. i see pictures on here of all of the folks involved some guy named richard penetta, george papadopoulos and then this empty
circle down here oh, there's no picture of trump in there because he's not, indicted at all, yet, this has been listen if you're frustrated it's because i'm frustrated. this has been two years of our lives. two years of our country's lives stolen. and this investigation based on crap. and crap that we've heard from every guest and so i'm happy today that it's over and we'll find out what we learned from the attorney general. katie: and there it is, right? that we have heard from the media, from democrats on capitol hill, we've gone from there's collusion to obstruction of justice, to now democrats saying they may want to hold robert mueller up in front of congress to testify about what is in the report. >> if necessary, we will call robert mueller or others before our committee. >> mueller has to come before congress and tell us as far as -- >> can you make that happen? >> yeah, we'll subpoena him. >> the watch word is transparency. >> and what happened, what it
says. >> i'm not going to draw any conclusions until we see not only the whole report, but the underlying findings and documentation. >> this is the end of the beginning, a number of other entities that will be looking at other aspects of the trump organization. there's more to come. ed: some democrats you see there are being honest and transparent about the fact they're not going to turn the page. this is the end of the beginning not the beginning of the end so what she's really saying there, senator harono is they keep investigating all kinds of things. bloomberg: despite the end of the mueller probe, the new york times, as mueller report lands, focus moves now to new york. katie: and if you look at look this is not the mueller report is not the only investigation that we've seen that has come to the conclusion at least with no indictments available. we saw the senate intelligence committee in february also come to the same conclusion that there was no collusion at all between the trump campaign, and
the russians, so there's a consistency now on behalf of the argument that the president and the white house and the campaign have been making which is there was no collusion, we were not working with russians to steal an election as democrats have been saying, and again, now we are here, with democrats saying we're going to move the goal post even though mueller is saying there's no more indictments and try and look for some more allegations of wrongdoing in the southern district of new york. ed: ben shapiro in o said this very well last night was talking about how the ball is going to keep moving. >> as democrats turn their eyes from robert mueller whose stopped president trump from the southern district of new york and doing that in realtime and claiming that maybe just maybe once the entire report is released then it will tell us something different from the fact there are no indictments as we now know and it will be amazing to watch them shift the goal post. i'm seeing media already suggesting that the big story is that president trump is going to pounce. whenever republicans are exonerated or something then it
becomes a story about republican s pouncing, it's never about media mall freeze answer for two years suggesting that president trump was responsible for deep dark collusion with russia that ended with hillary clinton losing the election. >> he makes an important point that's always put the president on defense that now he's pouncing somehow on something or maybe he's being cleared, i stress maybe, and they don't say that. i would also note what he said. he says it started with collusion, they couldn't prove that and then they say wait it's obstruction and then he went on to say now it's cover-up, meaning he put out the report from william barr, democrats are saying otherwise it's a coverup so what ben shapiro is saying it's a cover up before a coverup has happened and they keep shifting it. pete: totally right and they always put him on the defense so while ben was talking i corrected the headline of the new york times. katie: [laughter] pete: no longer mueller submits inquiry finding. it's trump vindicated. if they actually reported the way they report on the left, this is how they would report.
ed: editor pete hegseth. pete: let me know if i can put my application in for that job. the frustration of people watching this the benefit of the doubt is always given to robert mueller iii, by the way i'd like to be referred to peter p. hegse th i from now on in the new york times. they build him up and then dismiss his investigation to your point and they say this is the end of the beginning, or we got to continue, this is only going to hurt them. the left still hasn't figured out what they overhad in the election against trump. they still haven't learned it. ed: that's what happened but what happens next? katie: attorney general barr is reviewing the report he sent a letter to congressional leadership yesterday saying i'm reviewing the report and anticipate i may be in a position to advise you of the special counsel's principal conclusions as soon as this weekend i intend to consult with deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and special counsel
mueller to determine what other information from the report can be released to congress and the public consistent with the law. i remain committed to as much transparencies as possible and as you'll remember, bill barr is new toot job as the attorney general for president trump he was the attorney general in the 90s this is what he told congress during his confirmation hearings about making the mueller report public. >> it's very important that the public and congress be informed of the results of the special counsel's work. my goal will be to provide as much transparency as i can consistent with the law. i can assure you that where judgments are to be made i will make those judgments based solely on the law. ed: important consistent with the law. you're going to hear democrats continue to say and make it a political issue. we want to see the report and we want to see the whole report. nothing but the truth. all that kind of stuff and yes there should be transparency but the attorney general made an important point there under oath which is that you've got to follow the law and justice department precedent and what
their regulations are, meaning we've talked about this, that when you investigate someone, you could either indict them, or not indict them, and the procedures, the process normally is if you don't indict them, you don't then stick out secret grand jury information and say here is what we're looking at. that person, the president has been cleared but we're looking at this dirty stuff here. that's unfair. that's unproven allegations, and so look, some of this has already been out in the press what's being investigated. there's going to be detailed in this report that might justify and be held back. pete: it's a great point the trump legal team has played this as well as they could have especially in recent knows now with this release what do you release and when? it has pitfalls because the media will blame them either way you release stuff you shouldn't have released or you redacted it therefore you're hiding it. i think you stick to your guns about what is right. katie: first of all it's not just democrats who called for transparency of the mueller report. the house voted unanimously last week to release the report
president trump said himself yesterday before going to florida for the weekend at mar-a-lago that he is fine with the report being released. the question now is this started as a political hit job from the beginning with the dossier, and now, will democrats use redacted information which redacts allegations that were made against the president and his associates that did not have any evidence therefore could not go forward with the prosecution or indictment and do they want that to be unredacted so they can then use it for political purposes. ed: katie you mentioned this rightly so that yesterday the president before leaving for palm beach was at the white house and said i want this report to come out and it's interesting because a former spokesman at the trump justice department pointed out the president may actually want this report out there because it may vindicate him. watch. >> the former head of the fbi led a two-year investigation with a staff of mostly democrats and came back without charging any american with conspiring with russia to interfere with
our elections or any american to obstruct justice so i think the upshot here is this is a great day for the president, perhaps more importantly it's a great day for americans. not such a good day for the anti -trump cartel who thought that robert mueller was going to be the trump slayer. katie: the trump slayer, pete. pete: but robert s. mueller iii turns out he may end up being the vindicator. that's the irony of this entire process. we saw that start to flip a couple months and weeks ago and loweringing expectations of this report saying well we don't care what comes out of it or not. they knew nothing was coming of it, as a result they've got to find other avenues and wash their own hands, we had jason chaffetz and others on saying there will be a backwards looking investigation. ed: so is the other irony that peter b. hegseth i is saying the mueller probe was not a witch hunt? pete: it's still a witch hunt. ed: if it says your narrative is
it okay? pete: it was still a witch hunt but it didn't find anything because there wasn't a witch. katie: even though there are no more indictments coming down for the president or his associates the political consequences of this are enormous for the country and it has torn the country apart there's massive distrust now in the department of justice in the fbi that will continue as greg jarrett was saying earlier on the couch will continue for nearly a decade and smeared the thousands of people who work at the fbi and want to do the right thing and there are big questions now moving forward about whether there will be accountability for the corruption that took place here. take a listen again to andrew mccabe, the former cia director, john brennan talking about collusion and we'll get to it on the other side of this. >> do you still believe the president to be a russias"? >> i think it's possible. i think that's why we started our investigation and i'm really anxious to see where director mueller concludes that. >> more and more i come to a
conclusion that after the helsinki performance and since that i really do wonder whether the russians have something on him. >> i use the term that this is nothing short of treasonist, because it is the betrayal of the nation. he is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. pete: half of the country has been told for two years, and so when the report comes out and again, we don't have it yet we'll see what it says if it doesn't validate the collusion, obstruction or it's not obstruction to fire someone that you're their boss and collusion is not a crime. when that, i don't know how the left the hard left will actually react to this. katie: let's talk to someone. pete: it's like finding out santa claus isn't real. he is very real folks. katie: let's talk to mark morgan former fbi assistant director for their training division. mr. morgan what do you have to say about the report but more importantly the fbi's reputation moving forward after all of these revelations about what went on? >> well first of all on the
reputation i'm concerned. i'm still in touch with a lot of active duty agents and one of the guests previously said it right. i think it's correct. i think unfortunately it's going to take a long time for the fbi to build this reputation, but the sad part is that's because of only a small, small limited group of leads at the top that made some really bad decisions. the rest of the fbi has been doing their job, protecting this country every single day and it's really sad for the fbi. ed: and when you work inside the fbi like that, mark, and worked with such great men and women, who are true professionals or patriots, want to protect this country as you suggest, what goes through your mind when you hear these revelations of a dossier funded by the opposition party was used by fbi and justice department officials who are supposed to be non-partisan on those kinds of intelligence matters to go after the other side. >> you know, it's a dagger in all of our hearts.
just recently, the additional release of a text between former deputy director mccabe and lisa page was going back and forth. when we hear that stuff unveiled , it's devastating for us. it's just another blow, and it definitely impacts every fbi person today. katie: so mr. morgan, the face of the fbi is generally the director, and former fbi director james comey, who was fired, is really the face of a lot of the scandal that has come out of that institution. take a listen to what he said in june of 2017, while he was on capitol hill. >> i woke up in the middle of the night on monday night, because it didn't dawn on me originally that there might be corroboration for our conversation, there might be a tape, and my judgment was i needed to get that out into the public square, and so i asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo, with the reporter, and do it myself for a variety of reasons but i asked him to because i thought that might prompt the appointment of
a special counsel. pete: so that was james comey then. >> i could tell you, at that moment i could say with certainty and strong confidence, at that moment, any holdovers that were still believers because they wanted to believe, he lost them at that point. that broke every principle, every ethos that any fbi employee knows five minutes after the employment that that was wrong and in my opinion he knows it was wrong, and the fbi i'm telling american people the rank-and-file they know it's wrong and they would not do that ed: we're talking about bill barr, new attorney general but old as attorney general and that he served in the bush, i don't mean literally but he served in the bush 41 administration so he's been there before my point being he's a veteran. he has real gravitas. talk about next steps for him in how he tries to lead the country forward. >> well you're exactly right and you characterize him perfectly and just look to his senate confirmation right? he said exactly what an tore
should say. he's going to follow the applicable law and policy and that's very important here. the statute of the special counsel, you know, it's very different, about the star report so it's very different than the statute that the independent statute, when this selacious report came out 455 pages remember congress let that pass purposely to prevent that from happening in the future. the current special counsel statue is very limiting purposefully so he's got policy what limits what he should and can release and real quickly from a law enforcement perspective, not politically, but from a law enforcement perspective i hope there are redactions, grand jury material you've talked about it sources and methods of the classified information but there's also a very real balance between the public interest to learn what's going on versus the privacy concerns. we saw in the star report -- katie: the accused. >> that's right. absolutely lives were ruined because of selacious detail. what's the public interest in
that? there isn't any. i hope that that balance is done effectively and i think it will be. katie: absolutely. pete: mark morgan former fbi assistant director thank you very much for joining us great stuff. well moving on democrats demanding the full release as we just talked about of the mueller report one of the democrats senator chris coons of delaware joins us next with his demand. this time, it's his turn. you have 4.3 minutes to yourself. this calls for a taste of cheesecake. philadelphia cheesecake cups. rich, creamy cheesecake with real strawberries. find them with the refrigerated desserts. different generations get the same quality of customer service that we have been getting.
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simple. easy. awesome. xfinity, the future of awesome. katie: fox news alert the white house and president trump's lawyers responding to the long- awaited mueller report now in the hands of the attorney general. pete: the report wrapping up the nearly two-year long russia probe. ed: but other investigations continue. garrett tenney live in west palm beach, florida where the president is spending the weekend. >> good morning for all of those two years on a weekly basis president trump has been attacking the special counsel's investigation but now this morning 19 hours, a little more than 19 hours since that report was submitted he is still yet to comment on it publicly. just a few minutes ago he arrived at trump international golf club where he will be spending part of his activities this morning and his attorneys though, they are speaking out about this report and last night , his outside attorney rudy guiliani told fox news this
mashes the end of the russia investigation, we await a disclosure of the facts we are confident that there's no finding of collusion by the president and this underscores what the president has been saying from the beginning that he did nothing wrong and white house press secretary sarah sanders also reacted on friday evening on twitter saying the next steps are up to attorney general barr, and we look forward to the process taking its course the white house has not received or been briefed on the special counsel's report. and that's important because you'll remember that rudy guiliani previously discussed the possibility of the president 's legal team coming up with a report of their own in order to respond to what they viewed as potentially a critical report by the special counsel. we're told now though that that plan is on hold as they wait just like the rest of us to see exactly what this report from the special counsel says. back to you all. katie: thank you. pete: garrett thank you very much appreciate it we'll follow that. well democrats now shifting the goal post threatening to
subpoena robert mueller next. >> we'll see what is made public, we'll react to that, and as i said if it is not made public in its entirety we will use a process and subpoena the report and if necessary, we'll reserve the right to call mueller before the committee or maybe even barred before the committee. ed: jerry nadler, that would oversee impeachment proceedings, you see senate chris coon a democrat from delaware good morning, senator. >> good morning, good to be on with you. ed: it's great to have you if this report essentially clears the president and i use the word "if" on the question of collusion with russia, will you accept the findings? >> yes, i will. i've said all along the last two years that part of why i thought it was important that robert mueller be allowed to continue and complete this investigation uphindered was because of his stature, as someone who was a
life-long federal law enforcement leader a life-long republican a decorated war hero, the second longest-serving fbi director, i've said all along that whatever he reaches in terms of a conclusion i will accept, and i think that's important for rule of law and transparency in the country, and at this point, we've got president trump and republican chairman lindsey graham in the senate and democratic chairman jerry nadler in the house saying the same thing let's release the full report, let the senate, the house and the people of the united states know what mueller has concluded and proceed from there. katie: so senator on that point of release the full report what does releasing the full report mean in terms of the justice department having standards and laws about special counsel investigations and redacting information about allegations that did not come to fruition with evidence? >> well there's three, i think, standard widely-accepted exceptions for releasing all of
the investigating materials and final report. first would be if it interferes with ongoing investigations. as we know there are ongoing investigations, roger stone hasn't been brought to trial yet in the southern district of new york and in the state courts of new york there's other investigations that don't relate to robert mueller's narrow charge, but that are ongoing, so information shouldn't be released that would interfere with them and in general, in criminal law you can't release grand jury deliberations without a judicial order and then last of course because this was centrally an investigation, into russian interference in our 201e classified might well be a part of this report, so there may have to be a classified an ex sent to congress just to make sure we're protecting national security secrets. pete: senator if collusion is not found in a report that is released, would you acknowledge that your part, the democrats have overreached in the way they've alluded to, suggested, even accused this president of
cheating, of colluding with russia? did you go, did your party go too far? >> well, i tried to be careful in the last two years and make sure that in every reference i made i talked about allegations, i talked about suspicions, and i think it's important that we not go too far in how we handle as a party investigations into the president going forward. there are unresolved matters there's matters that may not have reached the level of a chargeable offense against individuals, but there's still worthy of oversight and i frankly think one of the things that has made washington difficult to work in in the eight or nine years i've been there is the ways in which both parties have at times sort of beaten a particular point to death. i think there were 13 benghazi hearings, i don't think we need 13 hearings into the mueller report. i think we need to do a responsible job of oversight, see what the conclusions are and move forward. the average american whose watching your show this morning
probably isn't sitting there wondering exactly what's in the report. they're wondering how they're going to deal with getting a better job or healthcare costs, or the opioid crisis or the sorts of things folks wish we in congress would spend more time on. ed: absolutely the all-important issues you talk about the important issue of oversight though for any congress and that also involves not just the president, but a top officials like james comey, andrew mccabe, at the fbi, the justice department. i want to give you a pair chance to respond to republican congressman devon nunes. take a listen and we'll get your response. >> i think what you're seeing tonight is the unraveling of the biggest scandal in american history, the biggest political scandal in american history. i really believe what that is. people need to remember, this actually likely dates back to late 2015, early 2016, and this was began nothing more, nothing less than a clinton/obama operation with a bunch of dirty cops at the fbi and career
justice department officials that were all part of it. ed: senator you may have some political disagreements with congressman nunes. i know there's been a lot of back and fourth but in fairness there have not been a lot of people in your party taking a hard look at comey and other democrats taking a hard look at comey and others at the fbi, and the justice department in terms of the dossier and all of that. should there be oversight of that now? >> my recollection is that the inspector general of the department has looked at allegations around, for example, strzok and page and the exchanges between them by text and that there has been an appropriate consideration of whether or not there was improper motives at the fbi at the beginning of this investigation. devon has a real talent for over statement i would say that in my lifetime the water gate scandal was the single biggest political scandal but if there is a lack of confidence in the independence of federal law enforcement that's something that deserves appropriate
scrutiny. i think the inspector general of the department of justice has conducted oversight of the allegations that were made there and frankly, that's appropriate. i do think it's important that we not smear an entire federal agency of 110,000 dedicated law enforcement professionals based on a few allegations. pete: senator i would politely disagree with your characterization of benghazi, dead americans, cover-up, i think that frankly justifies a special counsel as much as what we just saw. let me ask you one brief last question. one of your former colleagues john delaney came on and described robert mueller as a patriot. would you believe that our president is a patriot? >> you know, look our president does things that are in the best interest of our country, pursuing isis to the conclusion of the combat against the caliphate. for example, something that just happened this weekend. i think it's deserving of a complement. katie: okay.
>> there are things i strongly disagree with about his public statements and his conduct but i don't think that's up for me to challenge his patriotism. he's our commander-in-chief and i do my best to respect him. pete: thank you, senator. ed: thank you senator coons. we appreciate it. katie: thank you senator. more fox & friends in just a minute. naysayer said no one would subscribe to a car the way they subscribe to movies. we don't follow the naysayers. ♪ ♪
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they're not included in there, but ultimately, i think if you look at where this is and how long its taken us to get here, we did our own investigations in the house when we were in the majority and we found no collusion. you go back two years ago and adam schiff and other people were saying they had strong evidence that there was collusion. okay, if this report turns out to be what we're hearing, that there are no new indictments and that there was no collusion then are they going to come clean and say they were wrong either they had bad information, maybe they were trying to mislead people because they wanted an outcome which is my biggest concern with the fbi. i think there was some people over there that wanted this outcome, that wanted a bad outcome, and didn't get it. whose going to be held accountable? how many tens of millions of taxpayer dollars were spent meandering around on what many have called a witch hunt? i think that ought to be part of the report, so clearly, if there's no collusion that was found, then it strongly vindicates president trump, but
it raises those serious questions about whose going to be held accountable, at the fbi, the bad actors that had a political agenda which goes against everything law enforcement is supposed to be about. katie: congressman it doesn't seem like the investigations are going to end in the house, democrats are now in control of all these committees, they already issued subpoenas to 80- plus trump affiliated people or organizations. what is your response now though to adam schiff, the chairman of the intelligence committee, threatening to subpoena robert mueller to come talk about what's in this new report? >> first of all, i think people are tired of this constant harassment of the president. that's not why they elected the democrat majority. they didn't run saying that they were going to impeach the president but now they're moving towards apples-to-apples impeachment. you need to let the facts lead you where they are. with many democrats right now in
this pelosi majority they want impeachment as the end result regardless of the fact that's the opposite of the direction you're supposed to go. if again this report comes out, and says there are no new indictments and there are, there is no collusion, they ought to drop this hoax and go focus on the things that matter to the american people. getting the economy moving again pete: to that point, how many of your constituents, republican, or democrat are just chomping at the bit to see what robert mueller has to say? how much does this really resonating with people? they see through that its been a partisan attack on this president from the beginning so washington will be a buzz about this report, but regular folks who want their lives to improve does this change anything? >> i think a lot of regular folks have been frustrated saying what is all of this, you turn on some stations every day and all they talk about is russia and collusion. are they going to acknowledge that they were wrong and they were maybe trying to push their
own political agenda and instead of just delivering the news that's really what it's supposed to be about. i think people are tired of the personal attacks, and part of it is just people that want to go after the president and his family, regardless of what's out there, because they just didn't like the outcome of an election. pete: well said. katie: steve scalise thank you so much for your time this morning. pete: always appreciate it. >> great to be with you, go tigers. ed: i thought you might get that in. katie: [laughter] thank you. turning now to your headlines, lori loughlin's daughters could be banned from usc forever amid the college admission scandal. tmz reporting school officials will decide whether they would be disruptive on the campus. you think? despite already dropping out their parents are accused of paying $500,000 to get them into school. casey anthony the mother once accused and later acquitted of killing her daughter is reportedly back to partying, as she tries to move on. people magazine reports anthony called her past life a "
nightmare" and believes she's done her time. the florida woman was famously acquitted in the murder of her two-year-old daughter kayleigh in 2011. and barbara try sand is facing backlash about michael jackson's accuser's speaking to the london time while she absolutely leaves the sexual abuse allegations their experience with the king of pop didn't kill them. she says she felt bad for jackson, who she called sweet and child-like. she has not responded to the criticism. ed: oh, boy. katie: and sam adams is dedicating a new brew to justice ginsburg. they are set to release a craft beer brewed by women in honor of international women's day celebrated earlier this month. the belgium ipa will be called " when there are 9" and when they asked when there will be enough women on the bench. the beer will be released on
march 29. and those are your headlines. ed: you going to try that? pete: can men drink the beer? katie: i like that they stereotype and say it's a light beer. it's an ipa. pete: i'll have me some rgb. katie: we'll get pete one of those later today. the mueller report wrapped up and democratic presidential hopefuls picked their narrative and released the report so what does it mean for our 2020 race? our panel takes a look, up next. for your heart... or joints. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in clinical trials to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. ♪ book now and enjoy free unlimited open bar and more. norwegian cruise line. feel free.
katie: 2020 democratic presidential hopefuls have picked their narratives now as the mueller investigation is complete. i want to make sure that that report is released. >> that report needs to be made public. >> [applause] yes! >> the american people have a right and a need to know. >> it is absolutely imperative that the trump administration make that report public as soon as possible. >> [applause]
katie: so is this a good idea for them going into 2020 let's hear from our political panel, emily campanio, federal attorney and fox news contributor michael knolls, and kevin chafer it z, democratic strategist, thank you all for being here emily i want to start with you we're asking democrats and republicans to want this report to be released that there are some legal challenges when it comes to all of the information. >> right, i think notwithstanding obviously classified information and information that would compromise national security transparency is always in the best interest of all of us right we're constituents and citizens and we deserve to know how our taxpayer dollars are being spent and allocated and i want to point out all of these candidate s talking about that and the full release i hope they carry with them that commitment to transparency through the election and whoever ends up ultimately in the white house because for me, that's part of the tenant and the sensitivity that all of us have going into this for quite some time. katie: kevin, democrats on the
campaign trail have used the mueller report to raise money, they have used robert mueller's investigation to go after the president, now that there are no more indictments coming, how are they going to be able to rely on this narrative going forward? >> well most of the democratic candidates will wait like we are all to see what exactly is in it katie: they sure made some conclusions about collusion and obstruction of justice and now the report says there's no more indictments they seem to go back to wanting to wait for the report. >> well i think based on the indictments that we did see come out of mueller's investigation that were 34 in total i believe that fueled a lot of the use of the report as you described it by some of the 2020 candidates, and i think people do believe there was some there. now we don't know what's in the report yet like i said, we're still waiting to get the summary , and once we know we can make more conclusions, but i do agree with emily that we should see it.
what can be released obviously not anything that came from grand jury proceedings, but anything else should be made public, i mean we paid for it as taxpayers and we deserve to see what's in it. we should know if our president is compromised. if he is or he isn't. katie: i think we know since there's not an indictment there was no collusion, since that's what it initially was launched for but michael vanzandt democrats overstepped again on this issue going into a presidential election because they've made it such a key part of their messaging against president trump. >> it was always bound for failure, so it was always a bad idea for them to invest all of their hopes into this russia hoax narrative. now they're calling for transparency what else can they call for? everybody wants transparency the president has called for transparency but i think transparency might end up hurting him, because today, we're celebrating that a two- year witch hunt to overturn a presidential election has failed. tomorrow, once the celebrations are over, we should be that this witch hunt began in the first
place, that this hoax has been dragged on for so long in the first place, so i want transparency. i don't just want transparency on the mueller report. i don't just want transparency on anybody associated with mueller report. i want to know how this whole insure aid, this started in the first place and i don't think that transparency is going to reflect very well for democrats. katie: well thank you all for coming in this morning we appreciate it. big news day. we'll be back, with special counsel investigation is over, are there any winners yet? there is at least one, we'll talk about it, up next. ♪ heartburn and gas? ♪ fight both fast tums chewy bites with gas relief all in one relief of heartburn and gas ♪ ♪ tum tum tum tums tums chewy bites with gas relief
pete: robert s. mueller iii is complete and the attorney general is reviewing it the key conclusions may be revealed today. ed: even though we're still early is america the true winner the special counsel probe is finally over back with us now our political panel, former federal attorney and fox news contributor, michael, host of the show, and kevin, he is a democratic strategist. kevin i'll let you know first. >> okay. katie: can democrats get back to issues that they were elected on in 2018 in terms of the economy, jobs, rather than focusing on the russia issue which a lot of voters quite frankly is at the bottom of
their list in terms of priority. >> that's true, but even if though we may be sick of this investigation it isn't over yet. i mean mueller's group may be -- katie: mueller is over. >> for robert mueller but there is still obviously investigation s going on in the southern district of new york. pete: but was mueller! not mueller,, so, where does it end then? robert mueller was going to end it for everybody now it's not over. >> well and i think some people definitely put a lot of stock in mueller. he had become also a hero for a lot of democrats, and people who wanted to know and i know that's what you're referring to, but just because he didn't, or what we're hearing is that there are no new indictments that the president himself hasn't been indicted maybe that's because robert mueller was complying with the doj's regulations. his mandate did require him to stick to those regulations and the sitting president can't be indicted. so we'll still see. katie: all right michael, over to you.
>> so, the issue is now we're moving the goal post, as we always expected it would. we have known for a very long time that the russia investigation was a hoax, in their moments of candor, leftist s, who was caught on that secret camera said russia is a nothing burger. they pursued it to the end. now mueller is over, so all of a sudden you heard them say no the real story is in the southern district of new york. no the real story is a casino that trump wanted to build in 1972 or something. it's those aren't the real stories. you can't switch like that. you lose credibility ultimately. democrats are the boy who cried wolf. it's over. we know that there are no additional indictments this is a vindication of president trump, this is a vindication of republicans, the 2016 election i'm sorry, we're not going to overturn it and if they keep focusing on the 2016 election they're not going to have any chance in the 2020 election. pete: emily your take from a legal perspective. >> well so everyone canonizing
mueller, i think that we should see, yes, an acceptance and a faith in the process because remember the integrity was called into question for so long there were bills that were introduced to ensure the president didn't terminate him so i for one am looking forward to an acceptance and again association of my tax dollars being spent on this i want to point out for seven saying the southern district of new york is from outlier or watchdog that's not the case. it is within the doj, ag barr has his work cut out for him to restore my faith among others in these institutions to get to the bottom of what is also being probably overlooked which is everything that happened in that corrupt investigation to begin with. so i am looking forward to that and again recall too that the majority of those indictments were russian nationals the larger picture as well as that $12 billion industry a year of digital espionage so i look forward to policies being the concepts that we're talking about moving forward and to hearing my tax dollars being spent towards that. pete: we got those russians thankfully. emily, michael, kevin thank you very much for your time we
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get more information about what's actually in the report today. pete: i have a feeling there will be stuff today. ed: maybe we'll get pete back to work. pete: go march madness. taking on ed henry tomorrow. >> [laughter] neil: waiting on barr, we are live at the justice department in washington where the attorney general bill barr is expected to be making a decision maybe shortly on the reports released. we're also live in west palm beach, florida near mar-a-lago where the president and his team of lawyers are waiting for the exact same details and live live on capitol hill and the 2020 campaign where democrats are demanding the report's immediate and full release, leading democrats expected to have a 3:00 p.m. conference call to address this and so much more welcome, everybody, happy weekend i'm neil cavuto. so much we do not know, here is what we do after nearly two years, the