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>> noon eastern, the defendant of justice where attorney general bill barr is inside as we speak this saturday reading the mueller report. an administration official telling fox news that barr could reveal the principal conclusions of the report as early as tonight. >> we have got fox news team coverage fanned out across washington this afternoon. we've got peter doocy over on capitol hill getting lawmakers reactions and david spunt is in front of the justice department. leland: and with that, welcome to america's news headquarters from washington. continuing coverage of the mueller report. i'm leland vittert. gillian: great to be with you, leland, and i'm gillian turner.
let's return to david spunt live from the justice department. david, what can you tell us about what's happening inside right now? >> hey, gillian, good afternoon from the justice department. a busy saturday here, we know that attorney general william barr is behind me right now, behind the walls of the justice department and reading that mueller report. we have some video of him leaving his home about an hour and a half ago on his way here to the justice department. he arrived here late this morning and we're told that he's looking at that report right now and will decide what and if he's going to release later this afternoon. we are hearing from sources to fox news, if possible, that could come at some point today and possibly even as early as between 3:00 and 5:00 p.m. now, from what we understand, barr and his team, and a handful of people, a small handful of people are the ones that have eyes on this report. it's not being circulated around the entire department, definitely not by e-mail and for good reason. doj officials want to make sure
there isn't any classified information before just releasing it to the masses. now, special counsellor mueller has been deliberate since he took over this investigation almost two years ago, to keep this from leaking to the public. many would say he's done a great job because we still don't know exactly what's in the report. we do know that attorney general barr got a hold of this report late yesterday afternoon and he as his team taking a look at it and looking closely. there is a catch that we won't see as much as people want to see right away because there's a possibility that there will be some of this that's classified information, or there are some national security issues. meanwhile, a senior doj official told fox news yesterday, this is important, leland and gillian, there will be no more indictments in this case and barr said he may be in a position to brief congress as soon as possible, but the key point here, gillian, we don't know, number one, what's in the report and number two, we know that this is not circulated
widely to all different justice employees here. this is going to be seen by a small group of people, possibly later by members of congress, who certainly want it and we're told that could come sometime late this afternoon. gillian. gillian: oh, to be a fly on the wall of attorney general bill barr's office this morning. david, we will check back in with you later in the show. thanks for that. leland: that lack of information about what is in the report as david pointed out certainly hasn't stopped members of congress from offering political helpful conclusions to what may or may not be in the report. peter doocy, ahead of a conference call by democratic leaders about next steps this at the capitol. hi, peter. >> leland, democratic lawmakers are about to host a conference call members and staff about mueller messaging which so far has been filled with public promises to investigate the investigators and figure out why the special counsel didn't want to indict anyone else. the democratic lawmakers are saying they want the full,
unredacted report. they want all the evidence in the interviews used to compile it, if they don't get it they're going to subpoena robert mueller and haul him before a congressional committee to testify. >> if it is not made public in its entirety, we will take-- we'll use the compulsory report and have him before the committee and maybe barr before the committee. >> the president's legal team doesn't want them to see it before they do. advisors say they have a right, but never claimed executive privilege, but may have shared information they don't want getting out there. however the mueller report is summarized or disseminated, republicans want to make sure that there are at least a few pages on what they are basically characterizing as trump critics sour grapes. >> i think there were some
people over there that wanted this outcome, that wanted a bad outcome and didn't get it. who is going to be held accountable? how many tens of millions of taxpayer dollars were spent meandering around on what many have called a witch hunt? i think that ought to be part of the report. >> a few weeks ago on capitol hill when the president's budget was finally ready, we watched and it was a big spectacle as white house staffers brought huge stocks of paper on carts on hand carts over to deliver to the members of congress. that's not how the mueller report is delivered at first. at first, it might be a very short summary. any kind of full details of things fully fleshed out seems like it's a ways away. leland. leland: all right, peter doocy on capitol hill as reaction continues there. pet peter, we'll check back in, thanks so much. gillian: joining us now with the democrat's reaction to this is
michigan congressman dan kildee. congressman thanks for joining us. the top line item so far no new indictment. somewhat of a victory for the trump team, right? . well, obviously that's something that they should be happy about, but i think we all should withhold judgment until we actually get a chance to read the report. i mean, it's fairly clear that the justice department takes the position that the president can't be indicted and i'm not suggesting that he otherwise would have been, but i don't think that we should let the standard be whether or not people are indicted when we draw conclusions from the report. and one other thing that i think it's really important for me to say, i'm a democrat about you i don't think that anybody should be wishing for bad news for anyone. we shouldn't want to seclusion. we shouldn't want to see evidence of significant problems within the administration. we all should be wishing for the administration to do well. but we do have a responsibility to look at the facts, make a
clear-eyed judgment about what those facts say and frankly, the picture that's been painted so far is troubling, but i'm still going to withhold final judgment until i actually get a chance to read this report. leland: congressman, i have watched a lot, but not all of the coverage since about 5 p.m. yesterday when this news broke and-- well, yeah, well, i just look tired. i had to talk to you earlier today, too. but anyway, you are the first democrat that i've heard who has gotten out and said, just what you said, that no one should be looking for bad news in this and that the contra-positive of that is it's good news for the country, that you don't have any member of the president's inner circle indicted for having a conspiracy with russian agencies as many allege was going to happen. why do you think that's hard for your fellow democrats to say? >> i think there's a big difference whether or not people are indicted or whether we should make clear-eyed judgments about the veracity of this president and the fact that so
many people close to him have been indicted, at least one case convicted. that's not good for the country, but we shouldn't be searching for hoping for it to get worse. i think the importance of the mueller report is to give us information, so that the congress and most importantly, the american people have a complete view as to how this president has operated and make their own judgments. and not get ahead of ourselves by wishing or hoping for one outcome or another. i'm one who believes the facts will speak for themselves. i don't think this reflects positively on the president, don't get me wrong, but i don't think that we should be cheering for an outcome that has our administration or the u.s. government in constitutional crisis. there are still some answers that we're going to ask for though. gillian: i want your reaction. we're running up against a hard out here. i want your reaction to president trump. this is what he said last night en route to florida. take a listen. >> we're going to see what happens. it's going to be very interesting, but we'll see what happens. there was no collusion.
there was no obstruction. everybody knows it. it's all a big hoax. i call it the witch hunt. it's all a big hoax. so we'll see what happens. i know that the attorney general highly respected, ultimately will make a decision. gillian: somewhat measured, right? >> somewhat measured, but i think it's important to note that just because there has been no indictment doesn't mean there is no collusion, doesn't mean there was no obstruction in the typical sense of the term. so, you know, i think the president's still going to have a lot of questions to answer. gillian: right. congressman dan kildee, thank you for your time today. we appreciate it a lot and we'll check back with you soon. >> thank you. leland: all right. noteworthy that that sound bite from president trump was mid afternoon so before the report was transmitted, before this news of no more indictments. since then we've not heard from the president, not even a tweet. so, what is next for the white house now that the russia investigation at least this part
of the mueller investigation has ended? >> to weigh in we're going to bring in former g.o.p. congressman out of georgia, jack kingston. sir, thank you for your time this afternoon. what's your response to president trump's new sort of statement here that, you know, the attorney general and robert mueller are highly respected and he trusts they're going to come out on the right side of history here. what's with the new attitude? >> well, you know what? this is a great day and i think that the white house is absolutely celebrating, but they're doing it in a way to let the report do the messaging for them. the report is saying after 675 days, there has been zero indictments related to collusion. there have been indictments, but not related to collusion and then all of the talk we've heard in washington about, well, the president is going to obstruct this investigation, he's going to fire robert mueller, all of that kind of stuff.
it never happened. so the president doesn't have to tweet today. now, we all know and love the president probably will be tweeting at some point about this, but for now, i think they should enjoy their victory lap quietly and it's a huge deal. i can tell you the democrats are extremely disappointed. dan kildee is very measured. he's a moderate, a good man, but he's not the majority of the democrat passion right now. that party is more controlled by the adam schiffs and jerry nadlers, and what they're going to do take some portion of this report and get some information from the southern district of new york and take it and run with it and make a big deal about it. leland: this is important to what you said earlier. the president's seem celebrating in mar-a-lago in good spirits and understandably so. on a scale of one to ten, i would be a nine if i was president trump's attorney in terms of how excited they were, but at the same time, you point out that congressman kildee
offered a measured response. republicans in what we're hearing from you, also isn't that measured. this, the fact that there are no more indictments does not mean there was never an effort by the trump campaign to work with the russians or to be involved with the russians and to get their help. we don't know because we haven't read the report. >> leland, i think if there was, it would have taken hundreds-- well not hundreds, but it would have taken at the points of people, 30 or 40 people would have been involved in it and robert mueller would have picked them off. he picked off as many people as he could and he squeezed them as hard as possible to get some evidence of collusion and there just wasn't there. there wasn't anything there to find. so, i think we would have known it and it would not have abruptly stopped with no collusion. leland: but it didn't stop with-- sir, sir, it didn't stop with what you just said no collusion. it stopped with no indictments of the president's inner circle and no indictments for criminal
conspiracy with the russians. it didn't stop with no collusion. gillian: and the president has not been exonerated from other potential wrongdoing and that's what potentially democrats are hoping will be in the report. leland: let me ask it this way. do you worry you're taking a victory lap too early and getting a little in front of your skis in terms of what this report may or may not say when nobody knows what's in it? >> well, i don't because with all the leaking that had been going on, i think we would have known it. with all the people that george papadopouloses and the other crowds, the smaller players, we would have known something about it. it would have been leaked out and they would have been indicted and there would have been real discussion about collusion. i think there is reason for a victory lap. it doesn't mean that donald trump is now going to have the great love from the nation, from the democrats, from his critics, but it does mean that he is in really good shape right now as respect the mueller report.
this is all we've heard from the democrat party for two years, this is all we've heard from so many of his liberal media critics was that robert mueller was going to bring him down and the group of investigators were tough and they would get to the bottom of this. and how many times did we hear from critics that they have seen the report and that they knew that there was evidence of collusion, and yet, where are they today. leland: well, senator rubenthal went beyond what you talked about, he thinks there will be criminality in the report speculating about something we have not seen yet. appreciate your thoughts and time, thanks for being with us. >> thank you, leland and gillian. leland: continuing coverage throughout the day for the latest on the mueller report. ed henry at 9 p.m. eastern picking up the baton for fox news. tomorrow, sunday, chris wallace will talk to the chairman and ranking member of the house judiciary committee. these are the people who will get the first indications from the attorney general about what
is in the report. chris wallace joining us in about 45 minutes for a preview of that interview. check your local listings for time and channel tomorrow. howard kurtz will look at the media's coverage of the mueller report. tomorrow 11 a.m. eastern. gillian: coming up, the midwest dealing with more rainfall this weekend, adding to the already widespread flooding across several states. we'll talk to nebraska's governor, pete rickets. plus, u.s.-backed forces announced today isis no longer controls any ground inside syria. we'll take a look at what comes next as the caliphate collapsed and why the isis threats are far from over. we'll take a look back at all the robert mueller indictments over the last several months as we await the attorney general's release to congress of the mueller reports principal conclusions. stick with us.
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in it. republicans celebrate the news of no new indictments. the democrats point to the more than dozen people, some close to the president, charged by the department of justice. lauren blanchard with us. where things stand for those currently in trouble. >> well, leland, so the attorney general is at the doj reading this report. the almost two year long investigation did end yesterday without new criminal charges and a senior do jchj tells that mue is not recommending any other indictment. that has to be relief for donald trump, jr. and son-in-law jared kushner. will had been speculation of wrong-doing that some thought could end up in a final round of charges. >> what the country was led to understand, was there collusion between the trump campaign and russian interests. now we have at least no indictments, right? we'll see was there information, and the like. but there's one really key thing
that seems to me that people should feel very good about. they should. whether they will or not is their business. >> over the span of the investigation there have been 37 indictments, none have been for collusion. 34 people have been charged and more than two dozen russians were indicted on charges related to election interference. members of the president's 2016 campaign were involved in the special counsel's investigation. five former aides have pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with mueller's team and we're still waiting for roger stone's trial later this year. now, here is the thing. while the mueller investigation has ended without any public charges of collusion or obstruction, we're not sure yet of the special counsel's principal conclusions. something the attorney general may release later today, of course, democrats and many republicans are calling for the full release of the report, but leland, we just won't know until the attorney general finishes reading that report and decides what to do. leland: certainly know where the
house stands on this in terms of what their vote was last week. lauren blanchard, thanks so much. gillian: for more insight let's bring in our legal expert panel now, former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney, and gail trotter, thank for your time and the expertise you're going to provide us. the free legal expertise you're going to provide us with. gail, i want to go to you first. read the tea leaves for me when it comes to no new indictments from a legal perspective. what does it really mean? >> right, well, an of two years of hysterics and hyperventilating, see that the robert mueller report is going to land with a big thud. two directions this can go in, the back to the standards and legal norms we've had up until this point about how these investigations should work. gillian: when you say it lands with a thud, are you saying the report necessarily exonerates president trump? >> no, but the fact that there
are no -- our sources say there's not going to be any indictments coming out of this, it shows that the predicate for the investigation, which was treas treasonness collusion by the trump campaign with the russians, there's no indictments, no guilty pleas on russian collusion, and now we know that it's very unlikely because of these doj sources that there are going to be any forth coming indictments. so, we could go back to-- >> why bother with the report? >> because underthe law, the attorney general has to report to congress the high level conclusions of why robert mueller and his team decided not to prosecute anyone or go further. it's grand jury testimony needs to be kept private, that should not, under law, be shared with congress or with the public, and we can go in the direction of going back to the legal norms where if someone is not
prosecuted, then the federal government does not investigation to-- >> gail, you've-- you've sort of taken the same tact that republicans have, that this is the victory lap and exoneration of this-- >> not exoneration, no, i would not say that. leland: okay. but it begs the question, bob, that what is in the report, the narrative part of the report that could come out has potential land mines for the administration in terms of what various people's desires were or intentions were, especially as relates to the trump tower meeting with the russian cut out. and it also begs the question, there may not be indictments by mueller's team. we don't know about any referred investigations or wrongdoing found by mueller and referred out to doj. >> leland, i say ditto to what you said. that's true. let's go back to history about somebody named hillary clinton. hillary clinton was investigated
and james comey gave that ill-fated press conference and everybody went apoplectic about that because they said technically it looked like she may have committed crimes, but what this is, the doj just doesn't file charges on possibilities, speculation, they want to make sure, especially with a high level target that they are proof beyond a reasonable doubt. so, while it's a victory that trump tower meeting on june 9th, 16 was always a problem for jared kushner, for trump, jr. or the president himself and correlary obstruction, but that report could very well say they were either wittingly or unwittingly involved in trying to undermine the election in an improper way, but just like the clinton investigation, prosecutors used their discretion like i used to all the time saying it's probably a crime, could be a crime, there's probable cause, but i don't know if i could prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. gillian: all right, if we look at the nuts and bolts here, guys, the other important-- i don't want us to miss this,
the other important finding so far is that there were no conflicts between mueller's team and barr's team. bob, tell us about that quickly. >> well, i think theres' some heartening pieces about that. there seems to be, that this investigation was allowed to go on unimpeded and that rosenstein was allowed to stay on it and mueller was allowed on it and there are sealed indictments because i think that mueller-- at least what i would have done, in order to protect my position, would have farmed out as much as i could so that this way, if i get removed from office, those sealed indictments are there, and those other investigations and other, like the southern district of new york, are there as well. so we need to be careful about the idea that just because you're not indicted or you're not charged, doesn't mean that that report is not going to say that there was wrongdoing. gillian: we're out of time and we've got to leave it there. gail trotter, bob, appreciate it. >> thank you. gillian: leland.
leland: and a fox news alert. live pictures in new york where a pro-trump rally has broken out, outside of trump tower. the president himself is spending the weekend in mar-a-lago right now and his supporters are out in force, it appears, in streets of new york city. gillian: still ahead as the mueller investigation ends. we've got the latest on what we know so far about the special counsel's report. and as flood waters devastate the midwest, we'll speak to the governor of nebraska about the road to recovery. >> the flooding is just devastating. we've had records of crests. we're going to continue to work on the recovery, as well as the response and keeping people safe. ♪ to walk along the lonely street of dreams ♪
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billion dollars worth of damage in nebraska alone. president trump approving the state's emergency declaration this week short live after vice-president pence surveyed flooded damage alongside nebraska governor pete rickets. governor ricketts joins us by phone as he travels the state that's still in many parts underwater. good to talk to you, sir. the status report, you've got people still in shelters, but, boy, it seems like it's going to be a long way to recovery. is the water fully crested yesterdyet? >> the water has crested and we still have flooding across rivers in our state. and flood damage in freemont, nebraska right now where the platte river basically went back to its old river bed from dating back to the 1940's. so, it flooded out several housing communities and broke through levees and came into the city of freemont and the city of
freemont was isolated starting friday and then civilian traffic wasn't able to start moving until wednesday. we were able to get some convoys of food and fuel in on sunday night, but freemont was fairly isolated. leland: i hear the emotion and fatigue in your voice. what does this mean? how wiped out are some of these communities in terms of agriculture and in terms of businesses that flooded as well? >> yeah, we've got the -- submission we made to the federal government $800 million in losses and 840 in crop losses, 85 million to homes and businesses, 341 businesses, over 2000 homes and of course, that number is going to grow because that was just our initial assessment. this is going to be a, you know, long road to recovery, but we're nebraska strong here and we're going to get together and we had a fundraiser to get the process of recovery started. leland: there are few communities stronger than the
farming communities and the rural communities of the midwest heartland states of america. spent a lot of time there and we're looking at final how far the rivers expanded and one senator posted a picture you could see water for as far as the eye could see. how much of this interacts with the difficulty that farmers have been having in nebraska as it relates to tariffs, as relates to economic issues that farmers are having? are we talking bankruptcies, talking about people losing their family farms? >> it's too early to talk about that and there's usda livestock program for those who lost li lifestock and conservation programs, and there are things to do there. but no doubt, this is definitely going to be a difficult situation, even more difficult for our farmers and ranchers.
leland: for sure. governor, we appreciate it. god bless to you and to the men and women on the front lines now trying to help folks. it's a dangerous time out there and we appreciate you taking a minute to join us, sir. >> thanks very much for having me on we appreciate the help. leland: we'll talk to you in better times. >> all right, bye. gillian: president trump's in florida this weekend. he's visiting mar-a-lago, amid the speculation surrounding the contents of mueller's report. garrett tenney is there and he joins us live from west palm beach with the latest. garrett, how is the president feeling today? >> well, gillian, as you know, the special counsel's investigation has been one of president trump's favorite targets of the it's been radio silence from him in the 19 hours since this report was delivered. no tweets, no comments on camera and he reportedly did not mention it at a fundraiser dinner that he attended last
night. however, his outside legal team tells us that he is-- he's glad this investigation is finally over and they're cautiously optimistic about what the report says. his attorney, rudy guiliani tells fox news, this ends the russian investigation. and we're confident of the finding of no collusion with the president and underscores what the president has been saying from the beginning, that he did nothing wrong. as the attorney general goes through the mueller report, it's possible that the white house could request to see it before it goes to congress to determine if there might be material subject to executive privilege. it's not clear when or if that will happen, but last night sarah sanders said the next steps are up to attorney general barr and the white house taking its course. the white house has not been briefed on the special counsel's report. democrats leaders are keeping a close eye on that, that the white house should not be allowed to interferon decisions
what parts of the mueller report are eventually made public and at this point the white house officials are suggesting they likely will not be commenting further on the report until additional details come out and that could come as soon as tonight. gillian. gillian: a fairly measured response so far from the president, from the press secretary. it's a really interesting weekend to see the tone. thanks so much, garrett. we'll check back with you later. >> you got it. leland: we'll continue to monitor the president's twitter account as well. 's out at his golf course this saturday. no news on who he's playing with. gillian: that's all leland really wants to know. leland: i'm wondering if they need a fourth. we bring in former fbi director, mark morgan. good to see you as always. >> thank you. leland: for almost all of us except those who lived through whitewater-- through watergate, the starr report which was lurid in many ways and exhaustive in many ways
and when anyone thinks report about the report that's what they're thinking of. >> and i think your a hitting on something not talked about enough. the special counsel statute is completely different from the independent counsel and there's a distinctive difference. they let the independent counsel statute lapse for a reason, the starr report was salacious and had information there that didn't need to be and damaged people's lives. the special counsel statute is purposely, it's limiting. if you just look at what they require mueller to give, they call it a confidential report. so if you just take a look at that, they're sending the signal that that should be just that, it's confidential, it should not be an open report, every single word. gillian: confidential being an actual classification category, right? not confidential in the sense that we would throw the term around? >> right, it's a classification level and it goes further.
so from a law enforcement perspective, again, i don't care about politics, that's not my lane. but from a law enforcement perspective, i'm definitely worried about sources and methods. i'm definitely worried about grand jury material he's prohibited from releasing and there's a really true balance between the public interest and the legitimacy privacy rights of people who are not indicted, who are not charged. we saw what jim comey did in 2016, right? he broke every ethos of an investigator by going out and talking about investigation and we're not going to indict. gillian: when you talk about jim comey in 2016 sort of naming and shaming hillary clinton, but then not bringing any charges against her, right. >> exactly. gillian: why is that dangerous? >> it's dangerous because if you think about one of our kind of founding principles of our judicial process, in this case hillary and anybody, she didn't have the right to a cross examine. she didn't have the right to present her case.
instead she was tried along with these people could be tried in the open public court of public and political open court. and it's just not right. leland: drill down here a little bit on something. a name that was tossed around a lot was jerome corsi, he was involved in the roger stone world and offered a plea deal by mueller and publicly turned it down and i think i'm going to get indicted and turns out no new indictments coming. what does that say, they offer a plea deal to somebody that now turns out not to have been indicted. presumably you don't offer a plea deal unless you offer a crime beyond a reasonable doubt? >> not necessarily. you could think that you believe that a crime has been committed and you're going to go and you're going to work with that individual and see if they'll go ahead and confess. sometimes they don't confess or don't agree to the plea deal, but you don't have enough evidence and information beyond a reasonable doubt and sometimes
it's not prosecuted. gillian: having worked for bob mueller for 12 years, i think, you said. >> right. gillian: if you read the tea leaves, right, what do you think is in the report? do you think we already know the sum total of the information pertaining to the investigation? do you think we're-- and what do you think the release is going to look like? redacted, unredacted? portions all of it? your best guess. >> i think you've summarized it well a few times here, we don't know what's in the report. gillian: we thought maybe you were going to tell us. >> i don't have any insight. what i can tell you i've worked for bob mueller 12 years as director. what i'm confident to say is that when he completed his report, it's just that, it's complete. there's no stone that's left unturned so when he said i recommend no indictments, the investigation is done. it's complete. and so now we're actually talking about-- >> real quickly, we have to run in a second. yes or no, there could be follow-on investigations that he
referred things out to different parts of doj? >> absolutely. so we're talking about the narrow kind of collusion, and i would add obstruction in that. i would think for the most part he was saying there was not enough evidence. leland: we've got to run before the computer cuts us off. thank you. gillian: thank you. coming up, isis loses his final strong hold in eastern syria and we'll speak to a top u.s. mideast enjoy on the next step as president trump prepares to pull more troops out of the country. with my friends to our annual
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>> u.s.-backed syrian democratic forces announcing the capture of the isis group's last remaining territory in eastern syria. so will this have any impact on the u.s. involvement in that country? joining us now, former u.s. ambassador to israel, martin is also a distinguished fellow and director of executive education at the council on foreign relations. ambassador, thanks for being with us today. is the isis caliphate now dead? >> the caliphate is over, but isis is not. i think we should all celebrate the fact that its last holdout or executive stronghold is gone now in syria as rolled up in iraq before that. the problem with isis, it has m metastasized and it's in various places around the world and places where it's lying in wait to attack again. so, just because it doesn't control territory doesn't mean that the threat has disappeared,
but it's certainly an important milestone in the battle to destroy it. gillian: so an important milestone in terms of their physical presence on the ground in iraq and syria, but what about the cyber caliphate that many analysts are calling it. incredible reach that persist up until today online, on social media. tell me about the threat from that. >> well that's a problem and there's no question, a problem of recruiting by isis through social media has been a phenomenon that has been a real challenge, but when they don't have control of the territory, it's a little more difficult to organize attacks. it has to be done in a much more clandestine way and for decades we've been fighting terrorism, techniques have been developed for dealing with that and indeed, using social media is also leaving a fingerprint that
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>> welcome back. as attorney general bill barr is at the doj this saturday and reading the mueller report deciding what he'll release to congress, we're hearing across the midwest. good to see you, my friend. boy, republicans have sure changed their tune on bob mueller, haven't they? >> well, not as much as democrats have changed their tune. [laughter] >> on bob mueller, let's be clear about that. i love my team until i love another team. but the one thing that we can say is the release of the report, we don't know what's in it, i agree with that, but the release of a report on a friday night after 5 p.m. during the ncaa tournament is bad optics for the democrats. leland: hey, what's worse optics, the fact that that's when was given to the attorney general or the fact that there's no indictments coming out of it and now you've got democrats going, well, we don't need-- we don't care whether there were indictments, we need to read the
report and then we're going to investigate the investigators? >> right, so understanding that getting an indictment was actually never the goal. they would have been happy to have one, thrilled to have one, look, we were right all along. the october objective of the democratic party is to charge him with a crime. they want to be able to charge him under investigation right through 2020, it's exactly what they want, it's the playbook they have been playing for the last two years and next two years, when democrats got elected to control the house, it started the night of a thousand subpoenas and it's still going on. >> the question then becomes, does this back fire at some point on democrats with the story line you've just laid out? does it backfire on republicans who are claiming victory before having read the report as well? >> i don't know if they're claiming victory. leland: oh, come on, and out there going this proves no
collusion, collusion. >> no indictment of president trump, no indictment of donald trump, jr., no indictment, no indictment, no indictment. leland: that doesn't prove no collusion. >> but the point is, that you would have seen something if robert mueller had indicted somebody, that would have been the story. so, of course, they have something to cheer here. and the question is, does it backfire, does it hurt anybody? i think the president gets to engage in a little vindication in the eyed of witch hunt and that plays well in ohio, pennsylvania, michigan, indiana the same states that won him the presidency. leland: chris wallace is coming up. and...whatever this was. because we make our meat with the good of the deli and no artificial preservatives. make every sandwich count with oscar mayer deli fresh.
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four -- [laughter] leland: maybe i should leave. all right, go ahead. gillian: so, you know, no one's seen this report yet, but there's already this narrative emerging here in d.c. victory versus defeat for president trump. how do you read the tea leaves? >> well, i think there is a limited victory, and i think we can surmise something on that, but i think, you know, we've been rushing to judgment for the 20 months that mueller has been investigating the president, and we have to just wait until we find out a little more. i hope that he does give the principal conclusions to the senate and house judiciary leaders tomorrow, because we're going to have the chairman and the top republican on house judiciary, jerry nadler and doug collins. so if they hear it, i suspect they'll talk to us about it. the limited victory, i think, is this: that if there were
collusion or whatever legal term you can use, cooperation, conspiracy, whatever, the president couldn't do it by himself, right? he'd have to have help from jared kushner or his son, don jr., or manafort, somebody else. and given that nobody else has been indicted for collusion and that there are no new indictments coming out, it would seem to me -- there may be behavior that the special counsel will talk about, but that there is no hard evidence of criminal collusion, so that seems, to me, to be a victory for the president. a big victory since that's what the -- gillian: takes two to collude. >> but let me just add this one point. having said that, we have no idea what's in it, and depending how much of the report we end up seeing, there could be a lot of stuff in there that's okay for the president or that's very damaging to the president. leland: it seems as though that both sides have decided, though, no matter what is in the record -- as evidenced by the fact that they're already doing
this -- the president's defenders will say this proves no collusion, and the left will say, well, we have to see more of what's in the report, because there could be all of these other bad things out there. and as we've been hearing now since yesterday, we're not going to see the whole report. you can't prove a negative. this leaves open the door to go on forever. >> i'm not sure we're not going to see the whole report. there's certain things we won't see, the president may invoke executive decision, although grand jury testimony was provided to congress in the nixon impeachment in 1974. i think we'll have a much clearer sense of it. i would take it a point further than you, leland, and that is it's become pretty clear that the house democrats, at least six committees are going to continue to investigate the president regardless. let's say if this report is a complete, clean bill of health for the president, jerry nadler -- the chairman of house
judiciary -- and five other chairmen are saying we're going to keep looking at everything from tax returns to whether he's benefited the emoluments clause, to all kinds of activities when he was just citizen trump, not president trump. gillian: and the nearly dozen cases open retaining to trump associates. >> absolutely. you've also got the southern district of new york, you've also got prosecutors here in washington, in virginia, and as i say, a half dozen congressional committees. chris coons, who's a member of the senate judiciary committee, said today that this isn't the beginning of the end, it's the end of the beginning, to which i could only say, oh, boy. gillian: so rudy giuliani said yesterday this underscores what the president's been saying from the beginning, that he did nothing wrong. but there's a gap, is there not, between no criminal wrongdoing and doing nothing wrong at all. >> oh, of course. and that's what you would expect the president's lawyer to say. i'd want my lawyer to say that -- [laughter] that it proves he did nothing wrong.
as i say, it does appear -- i don't know that it's conclusive, but it does appear there was no criminal conclusion, or somebody else would have been indicted, if not the president, because justice department regulations are he can't be indicted. it's not a clean bill of health. maybe it will be and, you know, we'll have to wait and see. leland: where does this go from the sense that you talked about of at least six more house democratic committees investigating the president? have you ever seen a case where there appears to be this there's a man that we don't like, now we're going to find the crime that fits into the facts rather than show me a crime, and then we're going to go after the man? >> well, you bring up a very good point, and i think it's something -- and, frankly, i plan to ask chairman nadler about it tomorrow. look, we have all been waiting, and when you consider it, it's much longer than the mueller investigation. the fbi started investigating donald trump in july of 2016 for possible cooperation. so this has been going on almost three years. if this report comes occupant
and there is not only not a smoking gun, but there's not even really an ember there of smoke, i would think that there are going to be a lot of voters who say leave the guy alone, stop investigating him, let's govern the country and head on to the 2020 election. i think democrats risk the possibility of a backlash if they conduct a lot of new investigations and a lot of new charges. everybody's been waiting, collusion, obstruction of justice. if he gets a relatively clean bill of health on that, i'm not sure people are going to want to pursue it. leland: if you listen to democrats, there's not a lot that share your thoughts about that. you don't really hear that at all. >> well, i think among the democratic base, there probably isn't. we can't get him here, we can get him someplace else. but i think they run a bit of a risk of backlash from voters at large. leland: all right. it's almost like we planned this segment, because we have a graphic for tomorrow on "fox news sunday," who you are
talking to, the chairman and ranking member of the house judiciary committee. if they're watching, they got a preview of at least a couple of the possibilities of questions. check your local listings for time and channel tomorrow on fox news. thanks, chris. all right. we spoke to a democratic congressman about the report last hour, dan kildee of michigan, so we bring in a republican congressman, senior member of the house intelligence committee, mike turner. congressman, good to see you, sir, appreciate it. >> thank you. leland: pick up with you where we left off with mr. wallace. as we look at this, are republicans claiming victory too early here? no indictments, but this report that nobody has seen, we can't tell whether it says no collusion or no wrongdoing. >> right. well, i think this is a victory for america, because this has come to an end. now we know that the president is going to be able to continue with his presidency without having the threat of the mueller
investigation or even just the time of the mueller investigation hanging over this white house. now, in looking at what chris was saying one thing that we know is the house intelligence committee and our investigation found no evidence of collusion. on the senate side, same thing, no evidence of collusion. if mueller's report comes out -- and we don't know, but if it says they could not find ed of collusion, there is no collusion, and it's time for everybody to move on. gillian: congressman, the other really important sort of facet of the whole investigation has, frankly, been lost over the last 24 hours which is, hopefully, we're going to learn something more, setting collusion aside, hopefully we're going to learn something more and new and better about how russia tried to influence our 2016 elections. what are you hoping to learn from the report on that side of the coin? >> gillian, you're absolutely right, because this investigation was about the russian meddling and our concern of their trying to impact our
election, having an adverse foreign power attempting to impact our elections. what we're hoping to learn there is not only who were the bad actors, how was it done, what were some of the things we don't know that they were able to find in their linearly-focused investigation, but also to find those things so we can stop it in the future. our whole goal is to insure that a foreign adversary cannot meddle in our elections and, hopefully, the mueller report is going to give us a guide to be able to approach that. gillian: do you see any sign from speaking to your colleagues on the hill, from speaking to doj officials that we might glean something new, or is that just a sort of pipe dream? >> well, no, i think, i think there is certainly prospects that we will learn something new. that certainly is, you know, was part of the charge and really the impetus for the investigation. i i think the mueller investigation would be very weak if they came back and their whole focus is just on the aspect of the review that they've given the president and the president's campaign team. because, you know, the threat of
russia and the resources that the mueller team had to be able to do, you know, triage and assess this should give us some answers. gillian: a good reminder that, you know, there's a lot more than just politics at stake here. there's the national security interests. leland: you mean, we're going to focus on things other than politics? shocking. >> right. leland: i guess, congressman, the question though when it comes to the political side and the intersection with national security is, is that by definition a lot of what's in this report is going to be highly sensitive, classified information up and to sources and methods of how it was developed in looking into the way the russians did, indeed, attempt to influence the u.s. elections. some democrats are never going to be satisfied until every word of the mueller report is released. do we then get into the situation of chris wallace discussing the democrats are just going to keep going and hollering about this and then
continuing these six investigations that they've already promised? >> right. so i do think that chris wallace is absolutely correct. i think the democrats are going to look fairly silly. i think, certainly, adam schiff as chairman of the intelligence committee is going to look silly if he continues to jump up and down and claim trump is a threat to our national security with respect to russia if mueller doesn't find one. we need to turn the intelligence committee back to focus on national security and working with our intelligence communities -- leland: is that really possible though, congressman? it seems as though on both sides congress has become so polarized, and even your committee which used to be one of the first bastions of bipartisanship where people would put aside their differences for the good of the country, is lost. >> not necessarily the armed services committee. there's still some bipartisan work being done there. you are correct, certainly the tenor that's been set by adam schiff in the intelligence committee has been divisive and
highly political and very much directed at trying to get the president, as you were saying earlier. i do want you to know there is a significant amount of bipartisan work and national security work that the committee does do that you don't see. i certainly hope we can get that work done. leland: well, and we are appreciative for that. a good thing that it's not talked about sometimes, the victories are silent. safe travels back to d.c. from ohio. >> thank you. gillian: as robert mueller's investigation comes to an end, 2020 democratic hopefuls sounding off on the special counsel even as they're on the campaign trail this weekend. jeff paul joins us from that trail with the latest on democratic reaction. jeff? >> reporter: as those democrats continue to campaign for 2020, nearly every politician running all talking about one thing right now, the full release of the mueller report. now, former texas congressman beto o'rourke right now is out in south carolina.
he's heading to las vegas later today for a rally. but before he left, he held one last event in charleston where he commented about the mueller report ahead of anything being released from it. >> you have a president who, in my opinion, beyond a shadow of a doubt sought to, however ham handedly, collude with the russian government, a foreign power, to undermine and influence our elections. the sanctity of the ballot box, the ability for each and every single one of us to make informed decisions about those who seek to represent us and hold positions of public trust. >> reporter: also on the trail and talking about the mueller report, senator bernie sanders. he's out in california today and will speak to a crowd here in los angeles. but last night while campaigning down in san diego he, too, addressed the mueller report. >> now, i don't know what's in the report. nobody does. i do know, however, that mueller
wound up indicting 34 people including 6 trump campaign officials. nobody, nobody including the president of the united states is above the law. the american people have a right to know. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: senator kamala harris is campaigning in texas, specifically houston. senator cory booker is speaking with voters in south carolina. meanwhile, senator amy klobuchar, senator elizabeth warren and former colorado governor john hickenlooper are all in new hampshire today. the common theme among those democrats, whether they're saying it on the rallies or on twitter, they're all calling for the mueller report to be public. gillian? gillian: thanks for that, jeff. joining us now to weigh in, democratic campaign consultant and fox news contributor doug schoen, and nathan rubin, democratic strategist and founder of millennial politics.
gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us this afternoon. >> sure. gillian: doug, want to go to you first. the common theme among the 2020 dems is release the full report, cory booker even going so far -- his campaign yesterday -- as to use this as a fundraising sort of trick, you know, they sent out an e-mail saying barr must release the entire report, donate here to make sure he does. is that really appropriate in this situation, to use something like that in this fundraising capacity, or is that just a cheap gimmick? >> it sounds to me much more like a cheap gimmick at this point, gillian. and listening to what the democrats had to say on the campaign trail, there was a certain uncertainty veering into incoherence from what i heard from beto o'rourke about how to react to a report that, ultimately i think as most have concluded, is a big win for the president. look, we've got to see what's in the report, but i think the large scale reaction from the
electorate is going to be, enough. let's go on and talk about the issues; housing, health care, our position overseas, jobs and to end the endless investigations. i'm not saying that i know what's in the report. obviously, i don't. there could be a lot of stuff that's embarrassing to the president. but at this point, i think we have to say the democrats really don't know how to react, and it's a huge win for donald trump. gillian: all right, nathan, when did the attorney general, attorney general barr, ever say anything other than i'm going to release as much of this as i possibly can in good conscience, protecting national security interests? what is leading all these dems, you know, on this clarion call? >> well, i think, first of all, this is actually something that has a lot of bipartisan support. the house of representatives voted last week 420-0, unanimously -- unanimously -- to release the mueller report to
the public. so i think when we frame this conversation, we need to look at it from the lens of bipartisan support and understand that our elections were attacked by russia. that is the conclusion of the intelligence community. and this report affects american democracy. the american people deserve to see what's in it. gillian: do you really think we're going to learn anything new on that end in this report? it seems like the focus over the past many months has really been the collusion narrative. >> with respect, i don't know, you don't know, doug doesn't know, nobody knows what's in this report except attorney general william barr. gillian: all right. doug, what do you say? do you think we've kind of lost the thread here in terms -- collusion aside, russia's efforts to influence the u.s. election? >> look, it is clear they did, it's clear they engaged in a systematic effort to undermine our election. that's where i think our focus on a bipartisan basis should be, is to make sure that never
happens again. but i think that the democrats are all focusing on release the report now because they don't know quite what else to say. and once the report's out, they'll take anything that is not exculpatory, and they will use it against the president. but that being said, the no indictments and the apparent lack of collusion that was found is going to be, i think, a huge win for the republicans. and what chris wallace suggested, that there could be a backlash against the democrats and people like congressman nadler andman schiff is, i think, a very real possibility. i say this as a democrat who wants the democrats to win. but candidly, the democrats will be barking up the wrong tree if they keep investigating. gillian: gentlemen, we're out of time, but thank you both. >> thanks so much, gillian. gillian: we'll check back in with you both soon.
leland: well, vladimir putin is reacting to the news of the mueller report. we don't think that that's how he reacted, but we will find out after the break. plus, we're going to talk to a former white house press secretary about how the white house is publicly reacting to the mueller news. in fact, the president hasn't tweeted about it. plus the governor of missouri with how his state is going to try to recover from what you see right there. ♪ ♪ac is boost® delicious boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals. boost® high protein. be up for life.
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wikileaks has also weighed in and is raising money -- gillian: calling for a full, yeah, on twitter calling for a full release of the mueller report, all the underlying documents as if julian assange gets a real say in how this turns out. leland: he had a say on a few things. the white house has not yet been briefed on mueller's investigation, and they made a lot of points about the fact that they have not claimed executive privilege. we know the president is down in mar-a-lago right now. white house preparing for a lot of different possibilities. gillian: that's right. and joining us now i want to bring in former white house press secretary ari fleischer. he's got all the expertise and more we could ever want on this. [laughter] so, ari, we're going to give you the floor. first up, tell us what you make of what we learned yesterday. >> well, obviously, it's hugely significant if there are no indictments coming. if there had been indictments,
this would have turned washington and the trump administration upside down, and no indictments. it's great for the nation, it's terrible for people who believe in hyperbole and hysteria, but it's good for the trump administration. but he's what i'm impressed with as we speak. in an era of twitter and live cable tv and immediacy and in patients, what's the attorney general doing? he's being deliberative. he's being quiet. he's studying. this is how our government works best. and i praise the attorney general for it. i want to hear in the asap, i want to see it all, as much as we can. but first, i want the attorney general to be deliberative and thoughtful, and that's what he's doing. praise to him. gillian: so you give attorney general barr an a a, what do you give robert mueller? how do you think he's handled all of this on the pr side so far? >> gillian, i've been one who has defended bob mueller since the day he was appointed, and that's because i know the man.
i watched him on september 11th, i've watched him since september 11th, and i know and i've said regularly on fox that he's a man of integrity when others who once said that changed their mind and started to attack him. i've never done that. so i always thought if you're going to have an investigation, it needs to be serious, it needs to be sober. there have been no leaks. let the facts speak for themselves, and let the american people reach conclusions. and that's what we're all waiting for now, to get the report. i would add advise mueller and barr to stand together and release as much as they can. mueller should walk through the facts of what they found and then let barr talk about the implications. i do think the two should take that step. leland: on the left side of the screen is video of bob mueller enjoying a saturday or in washington in georgetown walking around. real quickly, ari, you make some excellent points about waiting for the release of the report, yet there are so many republicans who are not waiting for the release of the report, and they're saying this proves
no collusion. danger in getting ahead of your skis, in getting ahead of the facts, if you will? >> well, i think there is some risk to that. if comey had come out in two stages, first saying i'm not indicting hillary, and then the next day he came out with how she was reckless and all the classified information that was on there, you know, that would have sprung back to bite. so we don't know what bob mueller is going to find. but i'll tell you what i want to see, the politics, the trump issues aside, what exactly did russia do to mess with america. this is an important issue to preserve the integrity of our elections, and we all need to know it. russia's a bad actor around the world. the indictment gave us a window into what they've done, but i want to know everything to the degree our government can tell us and the hope that our policymakers protect us from it. the obama administration, clearly, did not protect uses from it. all this hacking took place in 2015 and 2016, and we need to know what russia did so we can
have the tools to prevent them from doing it. gillian: republicans have been decrying the investigation, two years, millions of dollars, but if we get some new, real information that teaches us something about how russia tried to interfere and where they were successful, sounds like you're saying it'll be well worth the money and the time. >> well, that's where i'm focused. i want to see what russia did. i suspect much of that will stay classified because that's the counterintelligence portion of it, but that part is vital. you know, the other part of it, i frankly think the genesis of this was a terrible overreaction by the obama administration when some low-level people connected tangentially to donald trump had contacts with russians, and those russians were people on the watch list. and then the obama administration dramatically overreacted when trump won. they weaponized the intelligence briefing, they leaked information about trump, they bit on the dossier, and that's what launched all of this, a fierce overreaction that was inappropriate. you see their former cia
director, john brennan, still predicting that people are going to be dutied just as recently as two weeks ago. the terrible, terrible judgment by the obama team. leland: yeah. that didn't age well. all right. ari fleischer -- gillian: nothing much to say about it other than that, it is true. thanks, ari. >> thank you, guys. gillian: coming up, catastrophic flooding continues to hit the midwest. we'll be speaking to missouri governor michael parson about how his state is trying now to recover and why some say the worst may be yet to come. >> i don't know if there is normal anymore. you know, this is eight years from the last one. and it was supposed to be 100 years. ♪ ♪ gillian: plus, the white house reportedly readying its response to the mueller report this hour. chief white house correspondent john roberts is standing by at the white house. he's got all the details on what to expect this afternoon. john? >> reporter: gillian, the nation is waiting for the principal conclusions of the
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ask your doctor about ibrance. the #1 prescribed fda-approved oral combination treatment for hr+/her2- mbc. leland: the attorney general and his tem reading through the mueller report at the white house. they are working this weekend as well for the rapid response. john roberts, chief white house correspondent, on the north lawn now. john, seems as though they're cautiously optimistic as they wait for this. fair? >> reporter: oh, yeah. the white house is very optimistic about a what the report might hold. and we, of course, are anxiously awaiting the release of the principal conclusions. we were expecting that they might come today, sometime between 3-5 p.m. a couple of sources very close to the investigation were telling me that. then we were hearing maybe later on today. i was told yesterday though by a white house official don't expect anything until sunday, and we are now learning from
jake gibson, our fabulous justice department producer, that, in fact, there will be no letter transmitted from william barr to members on capitol hill today. the earliest that would happen is tomorrow. and those are just the principal conclusions too, which will be a very short transmission. the facts of the case and what might be released from that will take a lot longer because in those materials that bob barr, the special counsel, they'red to the justice department could be classified information, information subject to executive privilege, it could be materials related to grand jury investigations. we do not know. now, the white house has not claimed any executive privilege yet because they do not know what is in the mueller report. multiple sources are telling us barr wants to get out what he can as quickly as possible to show transparency in the process. as for the president, he seems unconcerned about what the conclusions may show.
he spent the morning on the golf course in west palm beach, last night hosting a a lincoln day dinner at mar-a-lago. this video, taken by a guest in the crowd, shows the president in a great mood. this isn't the video, by the way, that's coming up. it shows the president in a great mood if, joking about the keynote speaker, lindsey graham. listen here. >> i said if lindsey's speaking, i want to come down. [cheers and applause] for two reasons. number one, he's a great speaker. and number two, i know if i'm here, he's not going to say anything wad -- bad about me. >> reporter: as for the process going forward, there is a chance that the attorney general may run the conclusions by the white house counsel, emmett flood who is the president's point person on the mueller investigation, if there is any material in there that is subject to executive privilege, they would likely need to see it. i'm told the process of
releasing the facts is going to take a lot longer, as i mentioned at the top, but democrats have already laid down a marker that they want to see the entire report and that the end of the mueller investigation does not mean it's over. listen to michigan congressman dan kildee here. >> just because there's been no indictment doesn't mean there's no collusion, doesn't mean that there was no obstruction in the typical sense of the term. so, you know, i think the president's still going to have a lot of questions to answer. >> reporter: or so the sense here in washington is that there is going to be a huge fight between the white house and democrats in congress over getting to this whole report because they, as i pointed out, they've already laid down a marker they want to see this whole report. and then maybe in addition to the whole report, they'll say, you know, it's the whole give a mouse a cookie and he'll want a glass of milk, they may want to ask for the entire source materials in the investigative file which could be a warehouse full of material. so even when these conclusions and the facts of the case come
out, it's likely that's not going to change anything. and then, of course, there's the investigation going on at the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district of new york. is so while the mueller investigation, leland and gillian, may be over, this ain't over by a long shot. leland: well, as you point out, democrats and the white house at odds with each other. who would have ever thought. john roberts on the north lawn, thanks. gillian: and now to something completely different. another supremely important angle here. how is the media covering the mueller report as we wait to find out more details? here's a little taste of the coverage from msnbc last night. >> manafort, cohen, flynn, papadopoulos, gates, column nick, stone. if this was a witch hunt, it's the most successful witch hunt in american history. leland: and with that, we bring in howard kurtz, fox news media analyst, host of "media buzz." boy, howie, the goalposts changed quickly between 4:30
last night and 5:30 last night. >> yeah. what we know didn't change a whole lot. we know there's a report, no further indictment. that's important because the president, if he would be guilty, needs somebody to collude with. i've never brought into the presidential branding that this was a witch community. 37 indictments, you take it seriously. my problem for two years now has been the overheated and overhyped nature of the coverage will every development got hours and hours and hours of cable talk time and stories online and all of that. and it seems to me that if it turns out there's not much more here, and we have to speculate -- we don't want to speculate, we don't know what's in the report -- then i think a lot of of people are going to have to justify how they played this as trump's presidency could be ended tomorrow when, apparently, that may not be happening. gillian: well, the unfortunate thing so far now 20 whatever hours we are into the report being finalized, it's been somewhat of a rorschach test for the media. people are seeing what they want
to see in it, aren't they? leland: let me clear that opportunity, i didn't know what rorschach test meant. gillian: that's why i'm here. this worry that things are not going to get any better, we'll just continue to eat each other alive until there's nothing left? >> right. we're in saturation mode. no further indictments. so you have democrats and republicans, key and liberal commentators saying this clearly shows on the one hand, you know, there's a lot more to find out, and we must get the whole report. there's always this other thing. on the other side, the president's vindicated, nothing is going to happen to him. we know now because nobody is going to be indicted. it would be smart for everybody in our profession to take a deep breath and wait and find out, at least the principal findings. i guess we're not going to get those today. but i it does serve, there has been a sort of a negative mindset here that somehow -- it
was always wait til mueller finds out, wait for this, or wait for that. the fact is, that hasn't happened. the fact that there's no further indictments at least on a criminal level tells you this is not as bad as had been expected or hoped for by some of the president's critics in the media. leland: as you watch some of the president's critics in the media, you don't see the acknowledgment often that the this is a big deal not only in terms of a big win for the president -- undoubtedly, no indictments is a big win -- but second of all, this is a good thing for the country. a lot of indictments coming out, possibly the president's son, possibly his son-in-law, that would have been horrific for the president prettily, it would have been -- politically, it would have been far worse for our democracy. that seems to be lost. >> not everybody has jumped on this runaway train, but look what you just said, the president's kids might have faced charges, the president's top aides might have faced
charges. think of all the speculation that took place, and now at least we know for a fact that is not happening. and, yes, i think the point that if there had been more indictments, more charges, if the news had gotten closer to the president, that this would be a terrible turmoil -- i think that's been completely lost. instead, there is this sort of default and position of what else can we find out. let's get the report, maybe there's more stuff in it. leland: we've talked about it, howie, and you and your guests are going to talk about it form. the media's coverage front and center, "media buzz," 11 a.m. eastern. thanks. >> thank you. gillian: coming up, catastrophic flooding hits the midwest. missouri governor michael parson joining us live right after the break to tell us about the issues his a state is now facing in the wake of those floods. ♪ ♪ in true british style,
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gillian: deadly flooding hits the midwes, prompting evacuations, emergency declarations and a whole host of problems in a number of states across the region. but as relief efforts are now underway, experts say the worst, sadly, tragically, may be yet to come. joining us now by phone is
the governor of missouri, governor mike parson. sir, thank you for your time today in the midst of what's a very challenging weekend for you and for all of your constituents. some of these people, i understand, are never going to be able to return to the lives and the homes they once knew. tell us what the spirit's like among your constituents. >> needless to say, it's pretty devastating here for what people are going through right now. but you've got a lot of people on the ground trying to do what they can to help keep hope alive for everybody, but it's a tough time. we've got millions of acres underwater right now, a lot of them are communities that had to be evacuated. people's homes, people's businesses, you know, our
transportation's shut down with i-29, a lot of major roads up there. so it's definitely a problem right now and making it tough times for our state. people are just every day trying to grasp a little hope here and hope things get a little better. today, finally,
some of the river's starting to decline a little bit, so that's good news, but yet we still haven't got through the spring season with the rain, and thing are going to be coming out of the dakotas and montana. i'm not sure we're plum out of the woods yet. gillian: governor, you just declared a state of national emergency thursday. has that helped bring some much-needed resources into the state? >> you know, we hope it does long term, but right now the state of emergency that we issues, because all of a sudden we had problem with utilities, power plants were going down, drinking water, transportation, emergency personnel. yeah, hopefully, we're going to start the process of evaluating all that, see what the cost of it. but, and we know the cost is
going to be dramatic at the end of the day. but really the state emergency was basically for the safety side of it, get prepared to make sure we can handle the situations and, hopefully, we can get the federal government to engage as soon as possible. our neighbors, nebraska, iowa and kansas, we're all suffering from the same thing here, and we've got to find some answers. gillian: yeah. only a couple of seconds left, governor. tell me about the a army corps of engineers. are you happy with the job they're doing so far? >> i don't think there's any doubt we need to have a sit-down conversation with the corps of engineers on how they're managing the river all the way through these midwestern states. there's some real problems here, and if we don't make changes, we're going to continue this process. and you're talking about people's living with affected -- being affected here, losing farms, losing a way of life. this is unacceptable, and we've got to have a sit-down talk with the corps of engineerings. things have got to change. we can't go through this every other year or every four or five years we're having major floods
in our state. july jill governor, we've got to leave it there. our hearts and prayers are with you this weekend. thank you for your time, we appreciate it. >> thank you very much, i appreciate it. swrul jill coming up next, stock market volatility as all signs point to a slowing global economy. ♪ ♪ for strength and energy! whoo-hoo! great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein and twenty-six vitamins and minerals. ensure. now up to 30 grams of protein for strength and energy! we're finally going on the trip i've been promising. because with expedia, i saved when i added a hotel to our flight. ♪ so even when she outgrows her costume, we'll never outgrow the memory of our adventure together. unlock savings when you add select hotels to your existing trip. only when you book with expedia.
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leland: all right. stocks crashed on friday, 460 points off the dow amid concerns over weak global economic outlook. we bring in pwc partner business development leader membership rochelle. mitch, good to see you. markets closed 4 p.m., 5 p.m. the mueller news came out. wall street will have the weekend to digest it. does it matter for the opening on monday? >> probably not, leland. i think this is the super bowl inside the beltway, and on monday it's going to be monday on wall street. so it's really not a huge event. and they've been anticipating it. markets like certainty, and the fact that the report is out is certain, what's in it is not, but they like certainty, and this is a step closer to putting this behind us. leland: when it comes to other possibilities, the fact that there weren't major indictments close to the president's circle probably is the contra-positive of certainty, right? had this been really bad for the
administration, might not have been so good for the markets. >> you're probably right, leland. i think if there was something there, the markets would be reacting over the weekend, but they're not because right now we don't know what's in there. if you look at it from a historical perspective, towards the end of the nixon administration the market wasn't doing well because the economy wasn't doing well. in the clinton case, before the starr report came out, the market did fell, but during the impeachment proceedings, the market did well. right now we don't have news, maybe something breaks, that'll be a different story. leland: solely from a political perspective from the administration, it would free up the president and his team for a little bit more latitude politically perhaps that they have this off their table to be able to focus on economic policy if that's what the markets would want, which is presidential focus, or the president just taking his hands off it. >> i think what the market has priced in right now is, at least for the remaining term here in
this congress, is gridlock, recognizing that the house is in the hands of democrats, the senate's in the hands of republicans, and it's not likely to get anything moved from a policy perspective. that's what the market was expecting. so even if the white house has more time on their hands to deal with policy, i think the market expects that it's very unlikely that something would break there. leland: all right. mitch, appreciate it, as always. thanks for being with us even on a busy saturday. and you can now get back to your basketball bracket, which is nowhere mitch's heart really is. >> it's not busted, my friend. [laughter] leland: gillian, i really appreciate you being here for two hours, i know it felt like eight. news continues -- all in one relief of heartburn and gas ♪ ♪ tum tum tum tums tums chewy bites with gas relief
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leland: we begin a new hour of coverage with fast moving developments on the mueller report. william barr has a lot of reading to do. we're told that the release of the principal conclusions of the investigation now expected within the next 24 hours. they would come in the form of a letter to congress. and a justice department official source telling fox news a short time ago that lawmakers will not be receiving that letter today. this as the attorney general is facing bipartisan calls to release the full report that has loomed so heavily over the nation 's capital and our politics, completely for all americans to see. welcome to a new