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>> paul: that's it for this week's show. thanks to my panel. thanks to all of you for watching. i'm paul gigot, i hope to see you all right here next week. arthel: we begin with fast moving developments on the mueller report. now in the hands of attorney general william barr, as capitol hill waits an susl anxiously to. barr will not be sending a letter on the principal conclusions of the report to lawmakers today but it could come within the next 24 hours many welcome to america's news headquarters, i'm arthel neville. arthel: hello. thank you for joining us. eric: i'm eric shawn. all this comes as the attorney general is facing bipartisan calls to release the full report from the nearly two year long investigation into russia's interference in our 2016 presidential election. at the same time, house democrats also just wrapping up a caucus-wide conference call to
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discuss their reaction to the mueller report and the party's strategy going forward. we have team fox news coverage for you on this major developing story. john roberts has reaction, he's at the white house. peter doocy standing by on cap l toll hill. david spud is live at the justice department where the attorney general is in his office with rod rosenstein, thumbing through the report, writing a summary as we speak. hi, david. >> reporter: hey, eric and arthel. good afternoon. a lot of reading on behalf of william barr, the attorney general. he and some of his top aides, including rod rosenstein, behind me in this building while they've been thumbing through the document. we can expect that it is decently large, something the attorney general said though when he took office earlier this year is that he would be as transparent as possible when it comes to the mueller report. we do have video of the attorney general leaving his home earlier this morning on his way to the justice department to actually take a look at that.
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he and a small handful of aides are looking through that. it's not being circulated around the entire department. doj officials want to make sure there isn't classified information before releasing it to the congress or releasing it to the public. special counsel mueller has been deliberate since he took over the investigation almost two years ago to keep this thing from leaking to the public. many would say he's done a good job because we still don't know exactly what's in the report but that hasn't stopped calls for an immediate release of the entire report. but it may not be so easy for the attorney general. >> everybody says we want complete transparency. he's got discretion to do that. thus far, he's a go by the books guy and what he said is principal conclusions, he's going to share those and then he's going to consult separately with both rod rosenstein and then with bob mueller to see what other information. >> reporter: now comes the task of deciding what can be released to congress and possibly what
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can be released to the public. again, the a.g. wants to be as clever as possible, wants to be as transparent as possible, also something very critical, eric and arthel, yesterday we learned there will be no more indictments in this case. right now. it is a wait and see game here at the department of justice but we do expect at some point the attorney general will hand over at least the he key bullet points of this report to members of congress. eric, arthel. eric: david, thanks. some say it could run into hundreds of pages. we'll wait for the report. arthel: well, the white house is also waiting for more details from the mueller report. press secretary sarah sanders saying the administration has not been briefed on any findings as of yet. chief white house correspondent john roberts is live on the north lawn. john. >> reporter: the white house pretty tight-lipped about all of this. the statement that you read just now is actually released almost 24 hours ago now and white house
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officials have had nothing else to say about that, other than to say that the president feels good about the fact that this is finally over. but multiple sources inside and outside the white house are telling us that they want attorney general william barr to get this out as quickly as possible and he wants to get out whatever he can as quickly as possible too, show transparency in the process. the president seemingly unconcerned about what those conclusions may show. he spent the morning on the golf course at the trump international hotel in west palm beach. last night, hosting a lincoln day dinner at mar-a-lago, a video taken by one of the guests in the crowd shows the president in a great mood, telling jokes about the keynote speaker, south carolina senator lindsey graham. watch here. >> i said if lindsey's speaking, i want to come down and hear him. [ cheering and applause ] >> for two reasons. number one, he's a great speaker and number two, if i'm here, he's not going to say anything bad about me.
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>> reporter: as for the process going forward now, there is a chance that barr may run the conclusions past the white house counsel and emmett flood who is the president's in-house counsel, dealing with the mueller investigation. if there is any material contained in the conclusions that is subject to executive privilege. and then beyond those top das line conclusions, there is a plan to release some of the facts in the case and that could take even longer because there's likely a lot of classified information in there, a lot of materials that may be subject to executive privilege, grand jury testimony, and many other types of documents. democrats have already laid down a marker that they want to see the entire report and the end of the mueller investigation does not mean that this is over. here's democratic michigan congressman dan killde. >> it's important to note that just because there's been no indictment doesn't mean there's no collusion, doesn't mean there was no obstruction in the typical sense of the term.
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so i think the president's still going to have a lot of questions to answer. >> reporter: white house officials are predicting a huge fight with congress over what to do about the entire report. they know that democrats want to see the entire report and then beyond that, if this report goes some distance to exonerating the president but still leaves questions, there's a chance and expectation that democrats will ask for all of the material that was developed, all of the investigative material, and that includes hours upon hours of conversations with lit literaly every white house official, millions of documents from the transition and the campaign, they were subject to executive privilege, conversations between administration officials, you can bet that will be a battle royale if democrats try to get ahold of that information. then on top of everything else, there's the southern district of new york investigation into all things trump and then there's all the investigations that democrats are launching in congress and those many different committees.
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so be prepared. all the way through november 3rd, 2020, this is what we'll be hearing about. arthel: this is going to butt up to the election which is going to be a very iffy for potentially both sides. >> reporter: one democrat said this is the end of the beginning but not the beginning of the end. and i think that's absolutely correct. arthel: john roberts, we'll be there. thank you. eric: what about that battle, well, it will soon shift to capitol hill. a huge fight there as both sides are gearing up to battle over the report's findings, whatever they are. peter doocy has more from capitol hill where they're getting ready. >> reporter: eric, emergency caucus conference call with democratic lawmakers should be wrapping up any minute now. the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, wanted all the democrats in congress to dial in, to get on the same page about what comes next. but one of the lawmakers leading the call with her, the house
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judiciary chairman, gerald nadler told us what might be coming next, a subpoena for robert mueller. >> if it is not made public in its entirety, we will take -- we'll use compulsory process and subpoena the report and if necessary we reserve the right to call mueller before the committee or maybe even barr before the committee. >> reporter: so lawmakers who asked americans for patience while robert mueller investigated are now asking americans to withhold judgment until they can get a look at the evidence and interviews that helped the seasoned prosecutors in the special counsel's office arrive at their decision not to indict anybody else. and republicans now say that they believe there's a real risk in democrats discounting this man they've been building up for two years. >> i think the democrats are going to look fairly silly, i think certainly adam schiff, chairman of the intelligence committee is going to look silly if he continues to jump up and down and claim that trump is a
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threat to our national security with respect to russia if mueller doesn't find one. we need to turn the intelligence committee back to a focus on national security and working with our intelligence community. >> reporter: there are congressional investigations into possible russian collusion during the 2016 campaign, the ones on the house side are led by democrattings who want all of the mueller team's evidence to help them try to advance their probes. but then there are investigations here on the senate side like the one led by richard burr who made a stir when he said he looked at the evidence and he can't find any evidence of campaign collusion with the kremlin. back to you. eric: peter, wheeling have more on the russian threat later in the newscast. arthel: for more on all this, let's bring in john decker, the fox newsradio white house correspondent, who is also an attorney. john, good to see you. >> hi, arthel. arthel: president trump and his team including his son, donald
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trump junior, must be breathing a sigh of relief on this report that special counsel mueller is saying no more indictments to come from him. however, should they be on the lookout for the possibility of another legal shoe to drop? >> well, i wouldn't be doing a victory dance just yet, just simply because there's an a announcement from mr. mueller that there are no more indictments coming from his office. there are ongoing investigations, namely in the district attorney's office in the southern district of new york, concerning campaign finance law violations, possible violations, possible insurance fraud, possible tax fraud and of course there was a subpoena that went out within the past few weeks as relates to the inaugural committee, the trump inaugural committee. there are other investigations that are continuing in new york city and in addition to that, you have the investigations which are being conducted by various house democratic
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controlled committees right here in washington, arthel. arthel: and john, as attorney general pours through the mueller report, the principal conclusions with the assistance of mr. mueller, if need be, also helping out is deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein. how much scrubbing should we anticipate? >> well, there will be likely some scrubbing in the sense that there is likely not going to be the full report handed over to congress. why is that? well, because there's like throw be classified material that is a part of the mueller investigation. that's for reason. the other is, there is likely grand jury information, grand jury testimony under federal law that cannot simply be turned over without any redabbin redacr to the committees in congress that may be requesting it. i don't think they're going to see the full report as the attorney general, bill barr, mentioned, he wants to be as transparent as possible. that is being pretty transparent. of course, there will likely be
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redactions, arthel. arthel: and the grand jury testimony which is protected by federal law as you point out of course if that's contained, a number of people that will be able to see it will drop significantly. the president, however, would be permitted to see in certain circumstancecircumstance. what that means, i'm not sure. but moving on, we're talking about -- you mentioned earlier about potential indictments coming from federal and state courts in new york. how likely? that's criminal. how likely is there to be a political sting from the pepper spray produced by the mueller report? >> well, i think that what you're likely to see initially is sort of a political victory by the white house and by republicans in the sense that if indeed this -- what we're hearing coming out from mr. mueller's almost two-year investigation is that there was no collusion of any kind, no cooperation of any kind between the trump campaign and russian officials. that is indeed obviously backing
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up the things that president trump has tweeted about, has spoken about over the course of the past two years. but of course, there is the legal peril that he faces down the road, the legal peril namely from those investigations going on up in new york city and democrats are going to keep up the investigations of president trump and his administration as well as the trump campaign, all the way up to election day in november 2020. so it's not done yet and i don't think you're going to see rudy giuliani closing up his office any time soon because he still needs to defend the president. arthel: absolutely. we know the mueller report no doubt is a political hot potato. depending on how they handle it, in what ways could the democrats get burned? >> well, i think that they get burned in the sense that they have been calling for just about every democrat including those running for president in 2020, has been calling for the full release of this document.
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if indeed the document is released in its entirety, even without redactions and it doesn't show in wrong-doing, specifically on the part of the president, then there's a big thud. they didn't uncover anything that could lead to the possibility, arthel, of articles of impeachment. that is i think the fear that some democrats have right now. but they say they want to see all of the information that mr. mueller has uncovered during the course of his investigation, all of the interviews that he's conducted, for instance, during the course of his investigation, so that they can continue their probes of this white house and their probes of the president over the course of the next few months, likely all the way up until election day of next year. arthel: well, we'll be on top of it, of course. john decker, thank you very much. >> reporter: thank you, arthel, have a good day. arthel: i want everyone to be sure to tune in tomorrow for maria bartiromo's interview with president trump on sunday morning futures. of course, you can catch it right here on the fox news channel at 10:00 a.m. eastern.
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eric: that's a big bette big iw for maria. what does the investigation say about russia's attack against our election system, the concerns and predictions of foreign interference is still looming. how officials say voters should still be concerned ahead of the 2020 race for the white house. speaking of next year's presidential race, the democratic candidates are speaking out about the mueller report on the campaign trail. we'll have new reaction from them straight ahead. run with us on a john deere 1 series tractor. beacuse changing your attachments, should be as easy as... what about this? changing your plans. yeah. run with us.
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what happened. what we know from the indictments that have already happened, that have already been made public is that there was an extensive campaign by the russian intelligence community to interfere with this election and it went all the way back to 2014 when a businessman funded a campaign called project lokta which as you said in your introduction involved hacking, not only into the democratic national committee but also attempts to hacking into hillary clinton's personal accounts and also pedesta, her campaign chairman and using social media accounts, some of which were used from stolen identities of americans on facebook and instagram and elsewhere to influence the election. so it was pretty extensive and i think one of the things that this report can do as a service to the american people is really for the first time lay out an
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authoritative narrative that explains what happened and potentially prepares americans and the intelligence community for dealing with the next round of elections and what could happen then. eric: do you think it will do that? not only showing what the russians did through that inter-agency ability where they would spread out stuff in social media as well as flinch the voter registration records, they took 76,000 names of people in illinois, 14,121 in galesburg, just by coincidence, because it had the same digits that the russians were able to use. do you think they will lay out that plan as well as try and show the trump tower meeting maybe was part of that, sending the russian lawyer allegedly and other efforts too? >> i think the report has to lay out a narrative like this. because as you mentioned, 25 russian individuals were indicted out of the 34 total indictments so most of the focus of these investigations was on what did the russians do.
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now, it's not at all clear that there's going to be any direct links to a conspiracy or collusion with the trump campaign. but clearly he looked very carefully at the role the russians played in trying to influence this election and i think he has to sew these threads together to explain what happened and i think that's why we're going to be hearing very strong demands on both sides, democrats and republicans, to make as much of this report public as possible. eric: led me read from the director of international intelligence report, warning of the threats that exists now and still exists for the 2020 election campaign. they say, quote, russia poses a cyber espionage influence and attack threat to the united states and our allies. china presents a persistent cyber he's h espionage threat. adversaries and strategic competitors may seek to use cyber means to directly
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manipulate or disrupt election systems such as by tampering with voter registration or disrupting the vote tallying process. do you think we are sufficiently safeguarded and prepared for that. >> i think that report is really important because it demonstrates that this isn't just about our electoral system. this isn't just about the 2016 election or the coming 2020 election. this is extensive. you know, i'm very involved in the wall street journal's coverage of economics. when you talk to any season i don't remember leader in the -- senior leader in the economic policy community, take the federal reserve, they are very concerned about cyber security, about hacking into their systems, about foreign p operatives making efforts to tap into not just our electoral systems but our economic systems, our financial systems, and other critical parts of american infrastructure energy,
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it goes way beyond elections and i think what -- perhaps what we'll see in this report is some unmasking of how these efforts play out. eric: finally, if there is an unmasking of these reports, do you think that officials in this country, do you think we're prepared to defend ourselves a and do something about it? >> well, one of the things that i think this whole investigation demonstrates with respect to elections is that anything that happens in the political arena is extremely devi divisive for e american people. if the russians, or chinese or anyone else takes side and they go after one candidate or another, they set one side against the other in the american political discourse and i think -- one of the risks and conclusions that we can draw from this is that in some respects the russians were successful because they really did sew discourt in and a after
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that 2016 election. eric: surprisingly the russians did invade illinois, at least in the computer systems at the time. we've got to protect ourselves and hopefully we will. john, thanks for joining us this afternoon and good to see you as we wait for the report. arthel: that report, the mueller report you're speaking of, eric, is now in the books after an investigation of nearly two years. so how did robert mueller conduct his probe and what does it tell us about investigating a sitting president in the future? we will talk to a former assistant director of the fbi, that's coming up next. our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition... for strength and energy! whoo-hoo! great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein and twenty-six vitamins and minerals. ensure. now up to 30 grams of protein for strength and energy! that we're playing "four on four" with a barbershop quartet? [quartet singing] bum bum bum bum... pass the ball... pass the rock..
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eric: getting robert mueller's long awaited final report has been a long, contentious journey. the investigation lasted nearly two years. they made a series of major headlines along the way. lauren blanchard takes a look back. >> reporter: while attorney general barr is reading the report, the almost two year long
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investigation did end yesterday without any new criminal charges and a senior doj source tells fox mueller is not recommending any further indictments. that those be a sigh of relief for the president's son, donald trump junior and son-in-law, jared kushner. there had been speculation of wrong-doing which some thought could end up in a final round of charges. >> what the country was led to understand is there's a serious question, was there collusion between the trump campaign and russian interests and so now we have at least no indictments, right. we'll see was there information and the like. but there's one really key thing that seems to me people should feel very good about. they should. whether they will or not is their business. >> reporter: over the span of the investigation there have been 37 indictments, none have been for collusion. 34 people have been charged and more than two dozen russians were indicted on charges related to election interference.
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members of the president's 2016 campaign were involved in the special counsel's investigation. five former aides have pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with mueller's team and we're waiting for roger stone's trial later this year. of course, democrats and many republicans are calling for the full release of the report but we just won't know until attorney general barr finishes reading and makes his decision. in washington, lauren blanchard, fox news. arthel: robert mueller's investigation loomed over virtually over the entire trump presidency but what do we really know about this probe and how could it impact future federal investigations? former fbi assistant director bill gavin joins me with his thoughts. nice to have you. >> thank you, arthel. arthel: no more indictments coming from the special counsel. what does this tell you about how mr. mueller conducted his investigations? for instance, how careful he was not to over-prosecute or
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over-charge in his report? >> i think there's a couple of things coming into play here. number one, i think that bob mueller is a man of high integrity, honor, character and more than any other special prosecutor, special counsel, he has really kept a tight lid on this whole investigation. and anybody sitting back, looking at what happened, arthel, if anybody thinks that bob mueller was going to walk out of his office like moses carrying the 11th commandment that said thou shall not support trump, they were not reading the tea leaves very well. the problem is, the report -- mueller's report cannot make everybody happy. the republicans of course will be saying and have said it never should have happened to begin with.
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it was an illegal expose anyway. the democrats are going to say listen, we're not real happy with this report. we want to see the whole report, unredacted and we all know that's not going to happen because portionses of the report will have to be redacted if it contains any 6-e material, that is grand jury material, if it contains any methods, if it contains any classified material, that will have to be redacted. so nobody's going to be completely happy out of this. the american public, though, i think we all deserve the right to he see this report as much as we can possibly see and i know that bill barr is going to do an excellent job in upholding the law and also making sure we know what we should know. arthel: very good. and given what mr. mueller could have handed off to the southern district of new york, i mean, you know, you're pointing out that so far this has proven there are no signs of collusion
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here with russia but what potentially lies ahead in the southern district of new york? >> there is the $64,000 question, arthel. that's something that everybody wants to see. there's no way to predict what might be in that, what might -- what investigations might be going on in the southern district. but i would suspect you're going to have a greater chance of leaking information out of those institutions than any leak that could conceivably come from bob mueller. arthel: what, if anything, bill gavin, what does it say or tell thaws -- the mueller report tell us about investigating a sitting president in the future. >> i think it's very difficult and i know that in the past some special counsels have reported directly to congress. bob was charged -- bob mueller was charged with reporting directly to the attorney general of the united states. there are changes that need to be made in the future to clarify
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the roles, clarify th the reaso, clarify the initiation, what precipitates the onset. it has to be really claire fight. right now, i think it's a little bit fuzzy and ergo we have the clashing of opinions on both sides of the house. arthel: any notes of caution you would like to offer as we await what is in the mueller report, what we will find out? >> arthel, that's a great question. i really don't know what side issues may come out of that. i know that anything that's there that just -- if it gets redacted, i think if they redact a comma, somebody's going to complain. looking at what could conceivably come out of it, i don't see anything as far as collusion or collaborating with the russians. i think that's a dead issue. other than that, there might be
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some things, as you pointed out, things that go to other jurisdictions like the southern district of new york and there might be some embarrassing things. i think also, some of the people that appeared before bob's committee and maybe before grand juries have nothing -- nothing came out of it and should their names and their testimony be released, probably not, to protect these individuals who didn't have a dog in the fight and were totally innocent. all those things are going to be difficult to ferret out and make everybody -- nobody is going to make everybody happy. it's not going to happen. arthel: you've pointed out how confident you are not only in mr. mueller but also in mr. barr. how confident are you that the president and his legal team won't over-exert their executive authority to call for redacting parts of the report that perhaps don't need to be redacted? >> i think whatever is going to
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be redacted would be done by bill barr. anybody else can make a lot of noise. they can -- we've all heard some of the things that get said, maybe not complementary to folks involved. you're going to hear more of that from the white house. but by the same token, i think the integrity of bill barr, i've known him for a long time, he will stand up and do exactly the right thing and i'm sure there will be arrows shot at him and stones thrown at him and uncomplementary remarks made. but where that may come from, whether it comes from 1600 pennsylvania avenue or whether it comes from the house, the majority in the house, that's very difficult to say at this point, arthel. arthel: okay. mr. bill gavin, thank you very much. >> thank you. it's my pleasure. eric: there is more reaction of course to the mueller report coming in, coming in from the campaign trail. one candidate, beto o'rourke,
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among the 2020 democratic hopefuls who are speaking out about the report and what we could expect. we'll have a live report on what they're saying straight ahead. plus, the battle over the report now shifting to capitol hill. house democrats vowing to continue their investigations there. is that a good political strategy or some say it could backfire. our panel will take this on as fox news channel's coverage of the mueller report release, when we get it, as we continue. naysayer said no one would subscribe to a car the way they subscribe to movies. we don't follow the naysayers. ♪ ♪ ♪ now i'm wondering if yourool i loves still strong. ♪tayed too long. ♪ ♪ ooo baby, here i am, signed, sealed, delivered, i'm yours ♪ applebee's 3 course meal now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.
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beto o'rourke was out in south carolina, he's heading to las vegas later today for a rally. before he left, he held one last event they charleston where he commented about the mueller report ahead of anything being released from it. >> you have a president who in my opinion beyond a shadow of a doubt sought to however ham-handedly collude with the russian government, a foreign power, to undermine and influence our elections. the sanctity of the ballot box, the ability of each and every single one of us to make informed decisions about those who seek to represent us and hold the positions of public trust. >> reporter: senator bernie sanders is out here in l.a. today but last night while campaigning in san diego, he too addressed the mueller report. >> i don't know what's in the report, nobody does. i do know, however, that mueller
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wound up indicting 34 people including six from trump campaign officials. nobody, including the president of the united states, is above the law, the american people have a right to know. >> reporter: senator kamala harris is campaigning right now in tech -- texas, specifically houston. cory booker is speaking with voters in south carolina. senator amy clop char, he'll is -- klobuchar is in new hampshire this morning. many dems are calling for the full report to be made public. eric: for the political i'm a pact of the mueller report, let's bring in alex vogel and richard fowler, a fox news contributor. richard, let me start with you. the democrats had a conference call at 3:00 eastern time
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discussing strategy and reaction. what is the top priority for members of your party in dealing with the report? >> well, i think the first thing we want this report to be public, outside of methods and other things that would reveal covert operatives i think it's important that american people and elected leaders get a chance to see the report, to see what roberrobertmueller's team has bg on. we saw the ranking member on the judiciary committee who is a republican say the same thing, let's release the whole report, let's get it all out there and see what it says. eric: do you think we're going to see it. we had the 420-0 vote by the house and the president himself said it should come out. >> i think attorney general barr will follow the rules and regulations that exist and make any parts of it that he's able to do so public, absolutely. eric: there's a lot more, even though there were no indictments from the mueller office, you've got the other investigations at the southern district of new york, fox news has reported that
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there were about three dozen sealed indictments in the d.c. federal u.s. attorney's office, we don't know what they are or what they're about. and of course richard, adam schiff is saying that his committee, the intelligence committee, should have acces sed by law does have access to the underlying material mueller finds. will we see a massive counter intelligence investigation that does not deal with criminal matters but with counter intelligence matters. >> i think we have to wait and see on that. we have to wait and see what's in the report. i think that's the number one priority. i think the second priority is for the folks at home to remember that the reason why we got here, the reason why there was a mueller investigation was that there was a counter intelligence investigation happening at the fbi and during that counter intelligence investigation, president trump fired the head of the fbi, which was what triggered the robert mueller team, triggered the special counsel which got us to
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this day, to this report. i think it's very important for folks at home to know that is the reason why we sit here today. eric: apparently, richard, according to indictment, that was -- to no indictment, that was perfectly legal. >> the mueller investigation has already found some things. we know that donald trump's security advisor was found gil ticks campaign and deputy chairman were found guilty, one of the campaign aides were found guilty. i think there is definitely some smoke here when it comes to wrong-doing by folks on team trump and now we have to figure out what's in this report and what are the implications does that have for our democracy and for politics here in washington. eric: alex, richard brings up the origins of the report. the origin of this whole investigation, should there not be a new investigation, another special counsel of how this started, what's in the fisa warrants, how the dnc and perkins co got involved
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apparently with the dossier, how that wound up shouldn't we see this, doesn't the american public have the right to know what happened and how this investigation began in the first place, considering that there are critics saying it was basically political and a hit job. >> look, when you talk about the origin of this, the first thing they remember, the most important thing we know right now is that the no collusion has now gone from being a messaging statement to a reality and that's going to have implications. it has positive implications for the president and his legal team as there are no more indictments and yes, it will have oversight implications for those who now say how did we get here and spend 600 plus days looking into this many. notwithstanding what else came out and other people who may have gotten into trouble, absolutely no one was indicted for collusion with russia which is, again, the underlying issue that we were supposed to be looking at here. >> remember, eric, collusion is not a crime.
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the crime is either object of on of justice or some sort of conspiracy. we don't know what's in the report. mueller indicted folks all the way up to the kremlin, folks who worked almost directly for putin, who were engaged in frauding the american people during the election. we have to figure out will this report show a connection between those russian individuals and the trump team. we actually don't know that to be true or not true which is why everybody is sitting here with baited breath waiting on this report to come out. eric: we know about the trump tower meeting, the russian lawyer, representative of the russian government, but no american charged at all for any type of conspiracy in dealing with the russian interference in our election. as you said, richard and alex, we're waiting for the report, seeing what the attorney general does say in his report. to both of you, thank you. and we'll continue our coverage as we wait. of course, what the democrats
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plan to do next about all this, that's going to be a hot topic on the sunday -- fox news sunday tomorrow, chris wallace will be sitting down with the house judiciary chair maven and ranking democrat, jerry nadler and doug collins, on what will happen next on capitol hill when they get the report. that show of course is on your local fox station, and 2:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on the fox news channel and you can watch that as well as maria bartiromo's interview with the president tomorrow. arthel: well, a major victory in the fight against the islamic state. the u.s.-led coalition liberating the last isis stronghold in syria. we'll have those details for you a few minutes from now. after months of wearing only a tiger costume, we're finally going on the trip i've been promising. because with expedia, i saved when i added a hotel to our flight. ♪ so even when she outgrows her costume,
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eric: we have a fox news alert on another major breaking story we're following for you. u.s. backed forces in syria announcing victory over the islamic state after the liberation of the last isis stronghold there. there is a territorial defeat of the self proclaimed sa caliphat. we have a report from london. >> reporter: the islamic state's last stronghold was about a half a square mile, just a sliver of the city of barhuse in eastern
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syria. the syrian democratic forces had been hammering it from the ground for weeks while coalition aircraft hit it from above. and yet taking that little patch of land is a huge achievement. let's remember that at its height, i.s. held a third of iraq and syria. that's a territory about the size of great britain. it was effectively a state, albeit recognized by no one, but with things like tax collections, schools and most infamously a fe penn a penchantr cruelty and terrorism. after the victory they paraded through a nearby oil field celebrating and recognizing the 11,000 fighters who during died during the fight. the u.s. official in charge of syria was on hand, reminding everyone the fight isn't over just yet. >> while we have completed the
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territorial defeat of isis in syria and iraq, we still have much work to do to achieve an enduring defeat of isis. >> reporter: that work to do includes going after i.s. fighters who may have slipped out of that city, blended in with the civilians, looking to fight again, going after them and keeping an eye on sleeper cells around the world. back to you. eric: great victory for those on the side of what is right. thank you. arthel: eart robert mueller wg up the special investigation. we'll have more details for you, stick around as we come back after this break. - i always wanted to speak french
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eric: well, they apparently have a lot of read. one estimate says potentially hundreds of pages. a justice department official telling fox news that attorney general william barr, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein are working, quote, hand in hand, going through the mueller report right now. this as lawmakers are anxiously waiting to be briefed on the principal conclusions of the two year long investigation into the russian interference in our 2016 presidential election. all this could happen within the next 24 hours. hello, welcome to a brand-new hour of america's news headquarters. i'm eric shawn. arthel: i'm arthel neville. those principal conclusions would come in the form of a letter to congress from the attorney general. despite earlier reports, the doj says that will not happen today.
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this as attorney general brar br faces bipartisan calls to release the full report with democrats already suggesting the possibility to subpoena the special counsel. we have fox team coverage for you. john roberts has white house reaction and peter doocy is standing by on the hill. but first, let's go to david at the justice department. >> reporter: hi, arthel. william barr, the attorney general, said from the moment he took over that role just in february that he would be happy to be as transparent as possible. we know that he and rod rosenstein, his deputy director, are going through the documents right now, probably a handful of other people. you can imagine it's not being. mailee-mailed and circulated ard the department. we were there when william barr left his home to start coming through the document, to start reading it and to see what's inside. this is something, though, that the doj officials want to make
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sure there's no classified information, nothing that could compromise national security before it's released, not only to congress but before it's possibly released to the public. special counsel robert mueller he's been deliberate since he took over the investigation in may of 2016, to keep this thing from leaking. many would say he's done a great job. we still don't know exactly what's in the report. some legal experts, as you can bet, they've been speculating. >> the witnesses against the president were not cross-examined. that's why i called for the attorney general not to release the report immediately but first turn it over to the trump defense team, let them write their rebuttal, let them be issued simultaneously, let the public then be able to judge the adversary process, rather than looking at a one-sided report. >> reporter: professor alan deer dershowitz earlier on fox news. there is no indication that that will happen.
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all indications are that barr will provide at least bullet points r, summarizing some of the findings to members of congress. something else to point out, though, we did find out from a senior justice official that there will be no more indictments in this case. that is key, no more indictments in the mueller probe. william barr, rod rosenstein and a select handful of others going through the document and expecting to release part of it to members of congress. you can bet on capitol hill, they're anxiously awaiting those findings. arthel: thank you very much. eric: as we are all waiting for the mueller report, so too is the white house. press secretary sarah sanders saying the administration has not yet seen it and has not been briefed on it yet and it's up to general william -- attorney general william braw william bal and what happens next. john roberts has more.
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>> reporter: the president back at mar-a-lago after he spent the morning and part of the afternoon golfing at the trump international hotel. he has aides with him there including ro earth lighthizer. lighthizer will be leaving for beijing next week. the president will be huddling with lighthizer to develop a final strategy before they head off for what the president hopes will be the beginning of a process which will bring xi-jinping to mar-a-lago to sign the final trade deal between the united states and china. while house officials tell me they think it was ambitious in the beginning for some people to think that we might get some indication of what those principal conclusions of the mueller report would be today but they do take a lot of comfort here at the white house, the fact is david spunt pointed out a moment ago that there will be no further indictments from the mueller investigation. rudy giuliani telling me in a statement yesterday, this marks
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the end of the russia investigation. we await a disclosure of the facts. we are confident that there is no finding of collusion by the president and this underscores what the president has been saying from the beginning, that he did nothing wrong. one of the other things that the president has been doing, pretty much from the beginning, is doing his best to undermine the special counsel's investigation. the very premise of it. let's run a quick montage of what the president said about it in recent days. listen here. >> man gets appointed by a deputy. he writes a report. you know, never figured that one out. man gets appointed by a deputy. he writes a report. i had the greatest electoral victory, one of them, the history of our country, tremendous success, tens of millions of voters and now somebody's going to write a report. >> for two years we've gone through this nonsense, this is no collusion with russia. you know that better than anybody. floss obstruction. >> there was no collusion there, was no obstruction, everybody knows it.
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it's all a big hoax. i call it the witch hunt. it's all a big hoax. >> reporter: no collusion, no obstruction says the president. we do not know that for sure many all we know at this point is that nobody is going to be indicted as a result of what robert mueller found. so where do we go from here? mueller and rosenstein are reviewing the report. there is a possibility that while they likely would not consult with the president outside attorneys rudy giuliani, and jay sekulo, they may have to consult with the white house counsel and emmett flood on the mueller investigation, if there are materials that could be subject to executive privilege or even classification. and there is a possibility, depending on what the mueller report says, that rudy giuliani and jay sekula, the president's outside counsel again, may write some sort of rebut l tall report. it's all too early to know what's going to happen but those are the pins that are sort of
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waiting there, ready to drop, depending on which way this goes. and then of course there's likely to be a big fight between the administration and congress over getting the entire report released and then potentially all of the investigative materials that went into the creation of the report. and those would include lots of classified information, grand jury testimony, plenty of documents that are subject to executive privilege because they include conversations between administration officials. that could potentially be a battle royale. there's also the southern district of new york investigations of the president and then congress is launching all of these other investigations, whether it be the judiciary, whether it be house oversight, all of these investigations that are going to take us well into the 2020 election campaign. brett behr had an interesting perspective on what democrats in congress plan to to do over the course of the next 20, 21 months or so. this person said unlike the
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special counsel l sell, mueller, congress and the inspector general cannot convene grand juries and initiate prosecutions. if mueller couldn't find conspiracy and collusion, with every tool at his disposal, what do the democrats expect to accomplish? eric: there is certainly a lot, john. we'll be delving into what they could find in a few moments in our newscast. john roberts from the white house. thank you. arthel: john and arks eric: , as congress awaits the release of the report, there are calls to make the full report public. democrats held an emergency conference call this afternoon to discuss their next steps. peter doocy is live on capitol hill with that part of the story. peter, might you have any info from that conference call? >> reporter: we do, hot off the presses, some details from the democratic caucus emergency conference call where 120 plus members listened for 35 minutes. we're told that impeachment was
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never discussed. but the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, told all these members who were dialed in that she is going to reject any offer of a classified briefing about the mueller report. she is insisting that any doj presentation about the report has to be unclassified from the start so that members can talk about it publicly. part of what we've been given about the top of this call, this is a quote from pelosi. the purpose of the call is to hear from our chairman so i'll be very brief and only say that the take-away from this call is that the american people deserve the truth, to know the truth, transparency is the order of the day. that is what chuck schumer and i said in our statement. two of the chairmen that she referenced, sounds like their work is not done, adam schiff and jerry nadler, they are warning that a subpoena could in special counsel mueller's future if he doesn't break his silence to come and talk to them and trent present them with evidence that didn't lead to further
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indictments. republicans don't see a point in democrats scrutinizing the investigators. they want scrutiny on the democrats themselves. >> i think there were some people over there that wanted this outcome, they wanted a bad outcome and didn't get it. who is going to be held accountable? how many tens of millions of taxpayer dollars were spent meandering on what many have called a witch hunt. i thinii think that ought to bef the report. >> reporter: lawmakers will trickle back into washington tomorrow and monday from a long recess away and so if there is going to be any democratic action to try to compel mueller to do something that maybe attorney general barr doesn't want to do, the ball could get rolling then. arthel: thank you, peter. eric: as attorney general william barr faces growing calls for transparency, the question is how can he avoid the trap that james comey fell into when he announced the details of the decision not to prosecute
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hillary clinton. he came out with the information that did damage the subject of that investigation. by design, prosecutors do not comment on subjects who are not charged. so how will the mueller report deal with this? dave le lee leventhal is with u. let's start with the breaking news that peter just reported, that the democrats are rejecting any classified session in dealing with the mueller report. they want a full open transparency and potential testimony from robert mueller himself. do you think we'll see that? >> hardly surprising that they're asking for it and it comes on the heels of the 420-0 nonbinding vote that the house took to basically say, yes, we want the details. donaldonald trump himself said t the people see it. there's a bipartisan push at least to some extent to in prince pell ge -- principle get this out and discuss this. there are political
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conversations and legal considerations to take into account as this process moves forward. there's certain things that many people are going to, including on the republican side, say, look, this is just something that can't get into the public domain and that's a big issue that we're going to be talking about for many, many days. eric: some of that stuff could be classified material, grand jury testimony and you're going to have redactions. if they release this thing, you've got tons of blacked out redactions, people are all going to question what's in there. how much do you think we could see? i mean, the report could be hundreds of pages. >> it could be hundreds of pages at minimum. the case that democrats are going to make, they'll say look and they've been saying this already that all right, fine, donald trump has not been indicted. other people have not been indicted. but the issue of donald trump being indicted was never almost really in question. it's been standing department of justice principle that whether it's donald trump, barack obama, george w. bush, or any other president, that a sitting president of the united states couldn't be indicted.
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so not surprising that that didn't happen, regardless of what the evidence showed. eric: you know what the critics are saying, that donald junior is going back, jared kushner is going down, you'll have a whole range of indictments that came. >> and they didn't. the question is, what did donald trump know and what did he know when. and maybe a whole lot of nothing here. but the democrats are going to insist that, look, we need every bit of information put out into the public doug domain or that e have access to so we can determine whether donald trump or -- here's the big one, needs to be looked at for impeachment, something that the democrats have been resistant at the leadership level for because they don't want to go forward with that particular process but if there was evidence to indicate that donald trump in some way or some fashion either colluded with russians or knew information about other people trying to work with the russians that would be a problem and everyone pretty much agrees at this point that the russians did some really bad things in the 2016 election, that's not in question. the question is at least what
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we're talking about is did donald trump noe anythin know at that. eric: there's information in the report that goes to the intelligence committee, adam schiff. >> the political implications are just considerable. so some republicans have been very happy that this has been the result of this. the collusion delusion term has been thrown around a lot. but for those who think that donaldonald trump's legal troubs are done just because the mueller investigation has concluded in this fashion, donald trump is going to have issues to deal with the next two years. eric: the southern district of new york is dealing with the trump campaign, the inauguration, and there are three dozen, about three dozen sealed indictments in the federal u.s. attorney's office in washington, d.c. we don't know what they are. i want to make that very clear. but you know, you could have a whole realm of icebergs out
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there. >> donald trump's businesses, his foundation, also under investigation and the democrats have control of the house. they're going to make as difficult as they possibly can for donald trump, for his administration, different individuals in his cabinet for the next two years because of the powers they have by virtue of being in charge of the house. eric: do you think we will see the full mueller report or as much as we can legally be allowed to see. >> pure speculation at this point but i think there's a willingness among all parties even republicans and democrats to some degree that something should be put out into the public domain. the question seems to be at this juncture how much and when are we going to see it. that's the thing that can't be answered right now. eric: we're still waiting for the attorney general to give his review. we'll see how long that is before we get to see the full mueller report. many hope we'll see it as a that comes and we'll be reporting throughout the whole weekend. david leventhal, thank you so much as always. just days before the mueller
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report finally dropped, the president spoke with maria bartiromo. maria's interview with the president will be aired in its full tomorrow, it's on sunday sy morning futures, airs at 10:00 a.m. eastern time. you won't want to miss that, maria's interview with donald dd trump and athel and i will be back at 12:00 noon tomorrow and we'll see if the barr material has dropped by then. arthel: robert mueller may be done with his report. the southern district o new york is just getting started. you how mueller's probe opened the door for other investigations into the president and his associates. plus 2020 contenders are sounding off about the mueller report. why they say they want it public. we're oscar mayer deli fresh and you may know us from...
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likely send to congress a letter detailing the principal conclusions of the mueller report today but that memo could go to congress sometime tomorrow. meantime, focus is shifting from washington, d.c. to the southern district of new york where other legal threats loom over the president, his business associates and his business potentially. jacqui heinrich is in new york city with those investigations. >> reporter: the president's legal troubles are far from over. right now, there are at least six entities linked to president trump under investigation and those cases aren't limited to collusion but are looking at conspiracy, fraud, campaign finance violations, money laundering and foreign contributions. the president seemed unconcerned yesterday morning on fox business network. >> you know, they say there are lots of things but i don't know about these things, okay, just so you understand. i don't know about this. i said to my lawyers, are we being looked at here or there? they don't even know what people are talking about.
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how many breaking news stories were there about me that turned out to be nonexistent. >> reporter: the southern district of new york investigators are looking into hush money payments the president's former lawyer, michael cohen, paid to adult actresses and the extent of the president's involvement. also, president trump's inaugural committee and possible illegal donations from foreign nationals and two cases stemming from the president's former campaign chairman, paul manafort. new york state is investigating the trump foundation, the trump organization, the president and his family, whether they took advantage of the foundation's tax exempt status and used it to help the campaign. the attorney general is investigating whether the trump organization inflated assets to get more favorable loan terms. then there are the lawsuits outside those cases the president is facing including one from apprentice contestant who is suing for defamation and claims she was sexually assaulted. the president could be deposed in that case.
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there are more than a dozen state and federal investigations that grew out of the mueller probe. eric: thanks so much. arthel: how might these legal threats looming in the southern district of new york impact president trump and those around him? let's bring in our legal panel right now, rachel sellman, doug burns, good to see you both on the set with us. i want to ask you, at this hour, as the anticipation builds, what questions are you hoping to have answered, rachel? >> i'm definitely interested to see whether or not there were no indictments because he didn't believe there was the evidence for the indictment or if there were no indict machinement becae didn't tha believe that he could indict a sitting president. >> people will be thirsting for either it didn't really happen, there wasn't collusion, versus it's a legal technicality, there
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wasn't sufficient proof to convict, which is what i'm hearing a lot in the discussions. that's the big thing. there's a difference between whether somebody did a crime or not versus whether it can be proven or not and people will mix those together unfortunately in the discussion. as rachel said, the key is we must see what the conclusion is as to whether or not it really was there or not. arthel: your right to say that, doug, that a lot of people will mix the analysis because this does not only include or involve potential criminal and already in some cases proven criminal cases, but it also really more to the point when it comes to the court of public opinion, it's very political and people want to know what's happening as they are looking at candidates running and trying to beat president trump and as president trump tried to work hard to save his job. >> that's the whole point. that's what makes mr. mueller such a consummate professional in this whole thing. it does not appear that politics was at all involved in his
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analysis of any of this stuff. arthel: not mr. mueller's analysis but everybody else who will spin this in their way. let's talk about this, doug. is this the end of the legal road for president trump, or his advisors like donald trump june junior, like jared kushner or does the southern district of new york present potential legal problems for them? >> it's so interesting because the way you teed it about the difference between the legal and political discussion, politically, real quick, this is over, it's a complete vindication, that's one side. there are so many other investigations, he's not out of the woods. the southern district is merely going to pick up i heard the other day on where mueller left off. that's ridiculous. why is that ridiculous? it's outside the ambit of the mueller probe, he gave it to the southern district. it's separate. arthel: the southern district has federal and state charges. >> the truth is down the middle.
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the president is not out of the woods. the mueller probe has completed. we need to look at the report. politically you'll see the one liners about the only reason he hasn't been indicted is because of the doj memo, the only reason he wasn't indicted is because the proof is insufficient. all i'm saying, that's what you're going to be hearing politically. legally, yes, there may be ongoing investigations. we will see. i can't pontificate about them until i see what happens. >> i think the thing that's so important to remember is that because the mueller probe was so limited in scope, he had a very specific directive and he stuck to the directive. there are going to be a lot of loose threads that other agencies are going to be able to pull now as a result of the information that was gathered in that probe. and it was a very thorough investigation that he did and these other agencies are going to have access to that information. and ultimately within his directives, he was limited to what he did. but based on just what he found alone, with the 199 charges, the seven plea deals, the five state
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prison -- five prison sentences, one conviction by jury, there was definitely beyond a reasonable doubt criminality happening. arthel: considering the debate that just unfolded before my very eyes -- >> with two lawyers. arthel: should the democrats subpoena mr. mueller to have him speak in his words, tell us what he came up with, how he came up with it. >> if they have his full report i don't see the need to necessarily subpoena him. if they do p subpoena him, there's going to be a major legal fight and i don't think he will ever testify. >> it's important to remember that this talk about releasing the full report, true transparency, all of that, it's actually not legal to release the full report. so they need to go through it, what attorney general b a arr is doing right now is redacting information because they're not allowed to turn that over. if anybody gets confused about the fact or thinks there's something wrong with this entire report not being turned over,
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there's a reason for that. arthel: i asked, do you think the dems should subpoena mr. mueller. >> i think it would be a very, very difficult thing for him to be able to testify openly with regard to this. i think it would be a fight legally. but i think -- i'd love to know what he has to say. arrest. arthel: i'm having coffee with him tomorrow. >> let us know what he has to say. arthel: i'm not, i'm not. calm down, everybody. doug, rachel, thank you very much. eric eric: no, because i am laver. eric: house democrats are vowing to continue the investigation into the president. what about subpoenaing mr. mueller and others to testify. we'll ask the democratic congressman mark desonyay next. we will join us on what the democrats plan to do. ravings hi. choose glucerna, with slow release carbs
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mueller has to come before congress and tell us his
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veracity. >> can you make that happen. >> yes, we're going to subpoena him. >> you'll subpoena mueller? eric: that's eric slawell doubling down on adam schiff's threat to subpoena special counsel rob recall mueller. they want him to testify to gain a better understanding of his report's findings, this as the house democrats are vowing to continue their investigations of the president. what can we expect? house oversight and reform committee member david desaulnier joins us, a congressman who represents california, the golden gate you can see it behind him. congressman, there was a conference call this afternoon on that conference call, nancy pelosi rejected a classified briefing on the mueller report, saying everything should be public. how much do you think we, the american public, will be allowed to see? >> i think as much as possible. my preference would be everything. but the lawyers, if need be, will have to adhere to the law
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and there will be some negotiation between our lawyers and the department of justice but more is better in this instance, all of this is too serious. people need to realize that a year from now we'll be deep into a presidential election and people need to be aware of what happened. we need to hold people accountable and get to the truth. we have to be prepared for the next election. eric: are you surprised, are you disappointed there weren't more indictments from mueller's office. >> i'm not, one way or the other i have great confidence in his reputation. the special counsel, i think americans should be very pleased that we have somebody of that reputation, professionally and personally and his history as a faithful american and military and in the justice department. so it is what it is. i think we democrats need to insist on the truth and hopefully republicans will continue to join us last week we voted 420 to 0 with four people voting present so republicans and democrats put the country ahead of party in that instance.
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i think we need to continue to do that, knowing that i as a liberal member from san francisco is going to have a different idea logical view but the truth is the truth and facts are facts. we have to show those to the american public. eric: how do you think they can explain what the critics have said, they point to the trump tower meeting. and the critics say in those. mails they knew that it was a representative of the russian government, the e-mail said it was part of russia and its government's support for mr. donald trum trump. goldstone e-mails the russian government attorneys flying over from moscow, they want to have this meeting. all we heard was this was collusion and now it turns out that was an apparent illusion. how can that be explained to the american public through what congress has and through potentially the mueller report being put out fully?
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>> well, the way we do that is the way we always have, when we've been at our best in this country, whether it's watergate, mccarthy hearings when the public turned on the tenor of that time. so we have faith in the american voters even though they're polarized right now. if we present the facts to them and show the whole facts, they will make up their minds for themselves. again, it's very important of what we do know about how the russians tried to impact and apparently successfully impacted some of the election, where they weaponized social media which is new, relatively new to us. so american voters need to know that. i think of this as holding people accountable including the president of the united states but also making sure that american voters know who is trying to manipulate their votes. eric: do you feel this could happen again? as pointed out earlier in this newscast -- >> absolutely. eric: the director of national intelligence says we are not fully protected against other russian or chinese intrusions. >> absolutely.
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vladimir putin does not have any respect for democracy, doesn't believe it in his country, doesn't believe it in the united states and looks a at us as a rival. the degree he can get people to vote against their own interest in any way, he's proving his point. he's diminishing america. we as american citizens i think irrespective of party, we have to be mindful of that and really seek out the truth and in this instance, in this week i think it's particularly important that we seek out the truth that we find the whole report as much as legally possible and let the american public decide for themselves. eric: the critics have pointed to the lies, wondering why did people lie, manafort, flynn and others, about rush sah russia ms and this sort of things. they point to what seems acquiescence that the president has when he meets with mute continue which contrasts --
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putin which contrasts some of the policy. do you think we get light on that in the report? >> i hope we do. in the cohen testimony he was five feet away from me, certainly the things he said need to be corroborated. also, they were very, very concerning about the relationship with the investment in the trump tower, what would have been the tallest building in europe and the relationship between the people close to putin and the would-be president of the united states, then a candidate. i hope we get to more of that. i have faith in the american pub, evepublic, even people whot agree with me in the voting booth, if we're truthful and faithful to the con constitutio, this will work out. eric: congressman mark desaulnier, thank you for your views on the fox news channel this afternoon. >> thank you for inviting me.
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eric: we'll see what happens. congressman, thank you. you can be sure to see what the democrats and others plan to do next, fox news sunday tomorrow, chris wallace will interview the ranking republican, both sides here on the fox news channel, congressman jerry nadler and doug collins, both sitting down with chris on fox news sunday. it will be on your local fox station or right here on the news channel at 2:00 and 7:00 p.m. arthel: does the mueller report contain potentially damaging information on president trump? information that could be used by our adversaries to undermine the u.s.? remember, mueller's mission was to investigate russian meddling in our elections. the next guest says the russians and chinese would love to see president trump take a political hit. minimums and fees seem to be the foundation of
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arthel: while we won't know attorney general bill barr's
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take on the mueller report for at least one more day, we do know there were significant attempts by the russians to meddle with the 2016 elections. how closely is russia watching for the mueller findings and other foreign entities for that matter. dr. rebecca grant is here, the president at iris independent research. dr. grant, thanks for being here. >> thank you. arthel: once the findings are made public, do you expect any overt or covert reaction from russia, china or any adversary? >> covert reaction, of course. i think russia is eagerly anticipating the release of the report. putin's internet trolls are at their keyboard because, arthel, no matter what the report says, russia will try to use it in their ongoing cyber campaign to split americans, break up nato, and make our public debate nastier. arthel: of course, we've been focusing on potential legal
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repercussions from the mueller report. but again, as national security and military analyst, what fallout in that regard might you be anticipating? >> well, from the national security perspective, we have to keep in mind that the u.s. is engaged on a daily basis in cyber competition with russia. our forces at u.s. cyber command have persistent engagement with russia. we may also see impact from china too and the whole purpose of this investigation was to look into how much russia had tried to influence that election. they've done that not only here, but in many countries around the world. so this, arthel, is just the world that we live in, russian attempts to stir up and influence democracy. they want to keep it at the level below armed conflict but this is how they are fighting the west today. arthel: as president trump celebrates the mueller report is showing no collusion, do you think that the president should
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turn his sight now on saying, hey, russia, you didn't help me win, you didn't collude in my campaign, but you did meddle in our democracy. so you need to stop it, basically. >> well, we have seen this. congress has given u.s. cyber command a lot of new authority to be able to take actions in the cyber domain and push back against russia. now, they won't tell us what those are because they're very secret but we do know that we have this new authority, general mak a asoni has reported this just last month. it is a new and different world from what we saw in 2016 already and be sure that president trump is well aware of this and we are constantly engaging with russia on a daily basis. arthel: how public should he be in rebuking their efforts and their success so far, actually? >> well, it all fits into his larger russia l policy and that is for him to say, i think there needs to be a strong statement to push back.
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he's been pretty strong in threatening to pull out of the inf treaty and taking other steps. i think we'll know more when we see the report. but the reality is, that he is the commander in chief and our military forces are pushing back on russia in cyber every hour, every day. arthel: okay, that's a good point. and again, as we wait to see what's in the report, depending on was we find or what is discovered, is there potential for president trump's effectiveness to be compromised on the world stage in the geopolitical scene. >> well, that's what russia and china want. china's sort of the junior varsity player. they go after trade secrets and military secrets more than political gain in their cyber activity. but it was a lot easier for putin and russia and xi in china before trump showed up. so china will be looking for anything that could hurt trump in the ongoing trade talks and of course as we know, putin looks for anything that will damage any of the nato members. arthel: do you think,
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dr. grant, do you have concerns about national security impacts if the mueller report is released in its entirety. >> i think they obviously will be very careful to take out anything that compromises counter intelligence operations. i think that's the reason the review is going on. but we do need to see, and we need to be aware of how forceful russia is in this domain and we're setting up for a long-term competition and a long-term struggle with russia in cyber as well as in the physical domain. that's going to be a real marker that the mueller report puts down, that this cyber struggle with russia is real, not confined to america, it affects our allies and we're in it for the long haul. arthel: wrapping up with we could quickly, although u.s. intelligence agencies confirmed that russia meddled in the 2016 presidential election, if the mueller report -- it is saying there's -- it announced there's no collusion between the trump campaign and russia, does this give russia license to work harder to interfere in the 2020
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election or perhaps even in other countries? >> 2020, the best defense is a good offense and i leave that to u.s. cyber command. we've also seen our state and local officials spend $800 million to shore up cyber security. the candidates, the campaign, dnc, rnc, you've got to take cyber security seriously. no more stupid, weak passwords. you've got to tighten up. 2020 will be safer. 2018 was safer. 2020 will be better yet. arthel: thank you so much for your analysis. >> thank you. eric: it's a victory against isis, the radical islamic terrorist group losing its final strong diss hold in syria. that could be the end of the years long global campaign to try and break that group's hold on the region but there is still more work to be done. we'll take a look right after this. different generations get the same quality of customer service that we have been getting. being a usaa member,
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eric: fighters in syria declaring victory over isis, putting an end to the terror group's self declared caliphate. ryan killcoat is following the story from our london beurr bur. >> reporter: the last strongl hold was a half a square mile, a little sliver of the city in
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eastern syria. the syrian democratic forces known as the s.d.f. had been hammer it for weeks from the ground where coalition aircraft hit it from above and yet taking this little plot of land is a very big achievement. at its height, i.s. held a third of iraq and syria. that's a territory about the size of great britain. it was effectively a state, albeit recognized by no one, but with things like tax collection, schools, and most infamously, an extraordinary penchant for cruelty and terrorism. not just in syria and iraq, but around the world. that's now all gone. a band played the american national anthem as the fighters paraded through a nearby oil field celebrating, also recognizing the 11,000s.d.s. fighters who died during the fight against i.s. u.s. official in charge of syria was on-hand, reminding everyone that fight isn't over just yet.
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>> while we have completed the territorial defeat of isis in syria and iraq, we still have much work to do to achieve an enduring defeat of isis. >> reporter: that work to do includes going after the i.s. fighters who may have escaped and blended in with civilians, militants who will be looking to continue the fight. remember, i.s. has reconstituted itself successfully before and of course keeping an eye on those sleeper cells right around the world. in london, ryan chillcoat, fox news. arthel: we are awaiting attorney general william barr's summary of the mueller report as a battle looms in congress over how much to disclose about the special counsel's findings. more on this fast-moving developments with jon scott on the fox report coming up next as our coverage of the mueller probe continues. there's little rest for a single dad,
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>> fox news alert attorney general william barr may produce a summary of the millie report about noon tomorrow. apparently it could run into hundreds of pages. then again, there are many predictions that it could come today which it did not. i guess that is part of the old proverb a watch pot never boil , right? arthel: but this will will boil and it will be very hot! eric: it already has been, you
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are right. we should learn tomorrow. arthel: did not forget to watch maria bartiromo with president trump tomorrow 10 am sunday eastern time on "sunday morning futures". that does it for us, jon scott is next with the "fox report". we are back at noon tomorrow. jon: anticipation growing across the country with the meal investigation finally over. and the department is reviewing the report as we speak. the principal findings as early as tomorrow. good evening i'm jon scott and this is the "fox report". special counsel robert mueller submitted his report to the department of justice late yesterday wrapping up the nearly two year investigation into russian election meddling in whether the trump campaign collude with moscow. attorney general william barr telling congress he remains committed to transparency. he pledges to consult with lawmakers on what information to


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