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about 30 points. the medal of honor ceremony is coming up on fox news channel. "your world" with neil cavuto is next on deck. he have complete coverage of that ceremony beginning now. >> neil: all right. this is something that puts wall street making money in its proper perspective. your looking live at the east room of the white house. president trump is getting ready to award the medal of honor. every time he's done this, travis atkins died on june 1, 2007 while fighting a suicide bomber in hand-to-hand combat saving his team and all of his buddies in the process. we'll bring you that ceremony live when it hams. his parents are there and his son will accept the honor for his now deceased dad. meantime, democrats in washington are doubling down on what happens now with special counsel robert mueller's collusion read and what we can
make of all of that. busy news day for you. welcome. i'm neil cavuto, this is "your world." california democratic chairman, adam schiff is not taking no for an answer insisting there's no doubt that the president cocoa -- colluded with russia despite a two-year investigation. catherine herridge has more. >> good afternoon. adam schiff said there is collusion and we'll continue to investigate the counter intelligence issues. that is the president or the people around him compromised in any way by hostile foreign power. last night on fox, another democrat and outspoken critic of the president went even further. >> if the best day of his presidency is not that he's been indicted for criminal collusion, we still have problems. that's what should be addressed by seeing the full report. >> with senior republicans
reacting telling democrats to read the summary of the special findings. >> the attorney general said there was no collusion. the attorney general points out in his letter that there were multiple opportunities for trump campaign officials to work with russians but they didn't do it. >> the republicans pouring through transcripts from former acting fbi director andrew mccabe, peter strzok, fbi lawyer lisa page, james comey among others refocusing on senior government officials that initiated the russia probe in the summer of 2016 and movement could be days away. >> we'll make our criminal referral. basically people that lied to congress, perjury, criminal conspiracy. they'll be -- once we get it done, we'll make it as much publicly possible. >> if i get more news, i'll bring it right to you. >> neil: and you always do. thank you. so not all democrats are buying
into this no collusion finding. what can we expect doing forward. b bob, you have the democrat from michigan saying the president is the most dangerous threat to democracy in our eyes. views held to varying degrees ant continuing investigations from eric swalwell and i can go on and on. you get the message. >> yeah. >> neil: that's with a report that at least removes the collusion issue. what do you think of that? >> yeah, the report is a home run for president trump. there's no doubt about that. no collusion. nancy pelosi has a problem. the speaker has been smart about, this she's down played impeachment before the report came out. she wants to talk about the agenda. they won the house because they talked about the agenda, not about impeachmenimpeachment.
this could be a problem for democrats that want to keep doing investigations. this was the biggest investigation. it's over. i do think politically it could hurt them if they harp on it. >> shepard: they want to get their hands on the report. the president is hoping to get it out there. a lot of legalities what you read and when. we're told weeks not months. probably a good thing. >> yeah, i want to read the report. a lot of people do. they have to make some redactions here or there. that could be controversial. the bottom line, robert mueller, very respected investigator and i think there are going to be democrats and basically adam schiff is at that point now where he's saying robert mueller was wrong. that's a problem. >> neil: wouldn't mueller -- i don't want to bounce this off of you. i respect your opinion mightily. >> dana: if attorney general barr was wrong in any of his characterizations of that
report, i would imagine mueller would have pointed that out by now. he didn't. >> yeah, listen, bill barr has been around, he's a respected individual. i thought he did well when he testified before the senate committee before his nomination. i don't think he's done that. i absolutely think his career would be ruined if he mischaracterized the report. at the same time, we want to see it. we're going to see a lot of this report, maybe not all of it and judge it for ourselves. most people, even some on the democratic side believe bill barr is telling the trust in his characterization of the mueller report. >> neil: we shall see. thanks very much. >> thank you. >> neil: let's go to kevin corke at the white house where the president is going to be rewarding his ace a medal of honor, this is a tear jerker in the making. >> it's something, neil. an honor befitting an american
hero. we're talking about a young man who not only served in the united states army and went to iraq, we're talking about a guy that left the army, came back after going to college for a couple years and rejoined and went back to iraq once again. army staff sergeant travis atkins is his name. his story is a very interesting one, neil. it's one that i think people can really relate to in that he real enlisted at the very height of the iraq war. he did so after that break in service as i mentioned. he deplayed to kuwait with the 101st airborne division. after a couple years, he came back and rejoined in the mountain division, the tenth mountain division in 2005 and deployed to iraq again less than a year later. fittingly today you'll hear more about his personal story, how his life was cut tragically short and why his memory will live on forever. in particular, i've been really
moved in listening to his season and his descriptions about his father and about the heroism when you think about you see a circumstance where you have to react so quickly, neil an eid, you do have time to think. you only think about preserving the peace and security of your men and women that are with you. he did that. he took one for the team. he will rest in peace in good memory after that heroism. we'll hear from the president momentarily, kneel. >> neil: thanks, kevin. general jack keane with me right now. general, these moments of this presidency, we've had a little more than 3,000 of these medal of honors handing out going back to the days of abraham lincoln. there's special moments, no other way to describe it. >> defining moments for presidents. just about every president makes it a point to participate in these ceremonies and not to delegate to it somebody else.
they do represent the best of us. i started in the army as a young officer in combat. i saw it up close. i've been in awe of it ever since. these soldiers don't want to die. but what makes them special is they're willing to. they're willing to put everything at risk. the opportunity to have a long life, to be a parent, have friends in your life, have love in your life. to love and be loved. they put all of that at risk. i asked myself that question all my life and i've come to an answer. they do it for two runs. they're out there, taking that risk out of a profound sense of duty to this country. and then they do it for one another. that is on play here with our young sergeant atkins. >> neil: you think about it, too. the story has been repeated enough that it will be again far
better than -- he -- we're dealing with a terrorist group a group of individuals that come into this camp. he could clearly see the suicide vest on one. he decide to wrestle him, find a way that -- he knew the guy was going to rip the cord on the vest and kill everybody around him. he was trying to position himself in a way that his buddies could be save and he saved them. he knew what he was getting into doing that. >> yeah, i've always thought the medal of honor is more about a person's heart than anything else. they react instinctively but knowingly. so he got close to him and he was -- this i was a part of the country where this kind of ied on a person had not been used a lot. so he saw that. he lifted him up in a wrestling move and body slammed him to the ground and put his body between himself and his teammates knowing that this is going to go
off and i can save my teammates life. he's willing to give it up for them. >> neil: you've been kind in your own bravery of service over the years. and my dad was a world war ii vet. they weren't the greatest generation. we forget that that greatness is in our dna when you look at young men like this that sacrificed everything. you led so many through your illustrious career. that greatness is not just defined as one generation. it's exhibited in the most remarkable way. >> absolutely. it's passed from one generation to the other as the world war ii generation. i felt having been close to what has been happening since 9-11 that we've had a 9-11 generation in our military. we had it in the cia. many of them were drawn to it. they saw the horror of what took
place here. they want to go out and protect the rest of america for years to come. they were willing to put themselves at risk to do that. no clear example than that. than sergeant atkins that came back in at the height of the surge. >> yeah. he was done, no, no, i want to go back. >> and i served in both of the units that he was in, the 101st. i was in combat myself. i commanded that division. then i was in the tenth mountain division, world war ii, deactivated after the war and reactivated in 1985. i was in that outfit as a chief of staff and brigade commander. i can identify with him. he's a remarkable person. >> neil: you know what you don't think of too, in the last case where we remembered a very brave -- 80 years young when the president honored him. the point is, this list, this partiless, doesn't matter if you're conservative or liberal.
you're a patriot and respected and admired. >> isn't it refreshing to have something that is totally and completely apolitical? that's what we're experiencing today with his family there and how articulate they are. his young son was 11 years old at the time. >> that's right? >> he lost his father who was 31. now here we are 12 years later. he will receive this award today. >> neil: when you look at it as the back and forth and question about the commitment in foreign lands and whether we should be there or not, a lot of these men and women, they're there. they're doing what they know and feel is the right thing to do. it's not a matter of judging the politics or the wisdom of being in a certain area, certain world, certain time, it's just what they do. >> that's correct. after all, they're all volunteers. there's nobody forcing them to do any of this. when they go in time of war like the 9-11 generation, they know
they're going to be in harm's way. when they join, they know where they're doing in a matter of months after they raise that hand and take that oath. they're going there willingly. they go out of a sense of duty. it's not for everyone. that's the truth of it. some of them go because they believe they have an aptitude to deal with this. they can control their fear and still operate effectively. we teach them how to do that. we train them to cope with their fear that there's nothing to be ashamed of to feel fear. fear sometimes will shake your body. at the same time, perform. they go with an aptitude to begin with and values that are going to contribute to the discipline and honor of being a soldier. >> neil: it's amazing. general, we're going to do this right now. the vice president has arrived. key members of the president's
cabinet. this as we indicated the eighth time that this has been done with this president. i always find that presidents regardless of political stripes or backgrounds, these are moving moments for them. >> yeah. just about every time this happens with the president, there's emotion in the room and emotion with the president. can't help it. of course, the family will be there, his young son. that will be emotional. >> neil: it will be. the event is taking place in the east room, a medal of honor for a young man that put his life on the line for his buddies. ♪ >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. ♪
[applause] [applause] >> the writer of the sacred scripture says my soul waits, my soul looks to the lord more than watchmen look for the morning. loving lord, as a people we thank you for those that wear the uniform and stand as watchmen, devoted in service to you and our great nation. our hearts are especially grateful today for the courage, honor and service of one such watchman, staff sergeant travis atkins.
a warrior that had a commitment to comrades and a devotion to duty. he had a commitment to service before self. some your faithfulness and unconditional love condition to inspire us to all greater acts of service. we are eager to do your will as we strive to pursue life and liberty and happiness. i pray these in your name, lord, amen. >> thank you. please sit down. thank you, chaplain, vice president pence. thank you, mike. members of congress and distinguished military leaders. we're here today to award america's highest honor to a fallen hero that made the
supreme sacrifice for our nation. staff sergeant travis atkins. please join me in welcoming the entire atkins family to the white house. thank you very much. [applause] [applause] thank you very much. joining us to accept the congressional medal of honor on a behalf of travis is his son, trevor. thank you very much, trevor. we're also grateful to be joined by travis' parents, his mother
elaine as well as his father, jack, who served as an army paratrooper in the vietnam war. thank you very much. [applause] also here with us is travis' sister, jennifer and his uncle, sumner and cousin douglas. both are military veterans of great distinction, i might add. thank you very much. thank you. [applause] to the entire atkins family, we can never measure the true depth of our gratitude or the full magnitude of your loss, but we can pay ever-lasting tribute to staff sergeant travis atkins, his truly immortal act of valor
was indeed. thank you. we're also joined for today's ceremony by acting deputy secretary of defense, david norquist, chairman of the joint chief of staffs, somebody doing a fantastic job, general joseph dunford. thank you, joe. vice chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general paul silva. thank you. secretary of the army, mark esper. mark, thank you. army chief of staff, general mark millie. thank you, general. chief of the national guard, bureau general, joseph lendual and sergeant major of the army, daniel dailey. thank you very much. great people. doing an incredible job. i have to say that. thank you as well to senators
steve daines and john tester. thank you. john, thank you. and representatives jim banks, greg gianforte, pete starbur and michael waltz. thank you all. thank you, folks. [applause] finally, we're in the privilege to have the presence of five previous medical of honor recipien recipients. thank you very much. brave people. [applause] today the name of staff sergeant travis atkins will be etched alongside of the names of
america's bravest warriors and written forever into america's heart. travis grew up on a farm in bozeman, montana. he was also an always most at home in the middle of the wilderness. he loved the wilderness. he loved to camp and to fish and to hunt, and he loved to race that snow mobile. as you know, right? after travis graduated high school, he worked as a painter and mechanic before he joined the army at the age of 24. in march of 2001, his parents went to his basic training graduation ceremony at ft. benning, georgia. when they reunited with their son, he told them this basic training was the best time i have ever had in my life. in other words, he loved it. [laughter] travis quickly excelled in the
army. he was offered a number of different assignments but always he chose the infantry. that's where he wanted to be, defending freedom on the front tiers with his fellow foot soldiers and they were all his great friends. in 2003, travis served on his first deployment in iraq with a historic 101st airborne division and participated in operation iraqi freedom. after he completed the harrowing deployment, travis returned to civilian life. but not for long. the fact is, he was bored. you know that. he was very bored. he wanted back in. as his mother, elaine, has said, travis loved the army. he loved everything about being with the troops. he just loved it. in 2005, he reenlisted and joined the legendary tenth
mountain division based at ft. drum, new york, where he was honored to visit last year. in august of 2006, travis left his second deployment to iraq. he was stationed in a hot bed of terror and terrorist activity known as the triangle of death. not a good place. on the morning of june 1, 2007, in a town outside of baghdad, travis and his three-man squad received a report that several suspected terrorists were walking toward and intersection nearby, nothing good was going to happen. they all knew it. travis directed his squad immediately to the location. when they arrived, he got out of the humvee and walked toward the two suspicious men.
he knew from the beginning. as travis began to search one of the insurgents, the man resisted and became totally violent. travis engaged him in hand-to-hand combat. as he wrestled to get the enemy's hands behind his back, the man began to reach for something and travis new what it was. he realized he was wearing a suicide vest. just as the terrorist was about to set off the deadly explosives, travis wrapped his arms and his entire body around him and threw himself to the ground away from his troops who were right next to him. he put himself on the top of the enemy and he shielded his men from certain death. the terrorist detonated his suicide vest and travis was instantly killed. in his final moments on earth,
travis did not run. he didn't know what it was to run. he did not hesitate. he rose to the highest calling. he laid down his life to save the lives of his fellow warriors. in so doing, he embodied the deepest meaning of the motto of the tenth mountain division. he climbed to glory. now travis is looking down from above on all of us, on all of his fellow warriors, his great family, wrapped in glory, the loving glory of almighty god. we're grateful to be joined by the three squad members that travis saved. private first class michael chistal. michael, where are you? thank you. please stand. thankdown. [applause]
[applause] thank you. specialist travis robert shaw. where are you, travis? thank you. [applause] thank you, travis. and specialist sam aoh. thank you very much. [applause] appreciate it. today we're privileged to be joined by more than 50 soldiers from the tenth mountain division, including those that served alongside travis, knew he was brave from day one. they really loved him. they wanted to be here. would you please stand? [applause]
[applause] >> thank you very much. thank you for being here. your lives of service do honor to our country. to army values and your fallen brothers in arms like travis atkins. he's looking down. he loves you all. a few days before that june morning, when travis left on his last mission, he called his son, trevor, to wish him a very, very special 11th birthday. trevor didn't know that he would speak to his dad for the last time. but in the 12 years since, he's
always known that his father gave his life for our nation and for our freedom. he knew that his father was a hero right from the beginning. long before today. trevor has said that he wants our nation to remember his dad as the best father and best soldier that anyone could ask for. trevor that is exactly how well your dad will be remembered. he will be remembered truly as the best father, and he will be remembered as the best soldier. you can't get better than the congressional medal of honor. you just can't. thank you very much. i'd like you to come up. please come up. [applause]
your father's courage and sacrifice will live for all time. every time we see our stars and stripes waving in the sky, we will thank our great travis and we will think of every american hero that gave their last breath to defend our liberty and our homeland and our people and our great american flag. now i'd like to ask the military aide to read the citation and i would also like perhaps in honor of your father, perhaps you could say a few words. would you like that? please. >> thank you, everyone, for being here, first off. it's an absolute honor to have everyone of you here. it's something that i can't really put into words. something that is surreal. i haven't fully accepted it yet.
all-over appreciation for his men, everything you said to me the last few days meant the world to me and changes my life every day. that's the -- the medal is something that i take a lot of pride in. it's the words that are the real pride. what means the most to me. when it comes to my dad, he always had the funniest stories about you guys. seeing you guys throughout. i was a young kid. he let me know. [laughter] no, i just feel so close with you and to him every story i get to hear. i'm glad that you got to enjoy his live and his energy. thank you. >> beautiful. [applause] >> the president of the united
states has awarded in the name of congress the medal of honor to staff sergeant travis w. atkins, united states army. staff sergeant atkins distinguished himself by conspicuous acts of gallantry while serving as a squad leader with delta company, 14th infantry, second brigade combat team in support of operation iraqi freedom. staff sergeant atkins was notified that two people were walking not far from his position. he immediately moved his squad to interdict them. one of the individuals began behaving erratically prompting sergeant atkins to conduct a search. both individuals responded
belligerently who then engaged him. when he noticed the insurgent was reading for something under his clothes, he readed him a bear hug and threw him to the ground. maintaining his hold, he pinned him to the ground further sheltering his patrol. he then detonated a bob killing sergeant atkins. in this critical and self--less act of valor, he acted with complete disregard for his own safety, saving the lives of the three soldiers with him and gallantly giving his life for his country. staff sergeant atkins' undaunted courage, spirit and devotion to duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of military service and reflect great credit upon himself and the united states army.
beloved god, as ever-present help and hope, we ask that you enable each of us today to demonstrate watchmen strength of character and service to our country. protect all that are in harm's way and sustained our nation's warriors were faith and fortitude as they walk the path of duty far from hearth and home. that we may always work and serve with integrity and honor. we ask these things in your holy name i pray. amen. >> amen. >> thank you very much. ♪
>> neil: what an honor. the eighth medal of honor that this president has recognized in his years in office. remembering a legitimate and genuine hero of whom -- this is kind of -- a reflection of what this young man did at the time. some 12 years ago. i witnessed the heroics of ultimate saved my life, this is coming from the sergeant whose life he saved. and the lives of several others. travis was an amazing soldier, an amazing brother to us all. he loved his country but even more, i got to know the man. i'm proud to be a part of this and to get to celebrate travis. he was a self--less leader, an authoritative leader. he led through knowledge, not fear or title or rank. we remember him for what he did
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and fourth floors of main justice for the attorney general rod rosenstein. his deputy. they have to look at the report, which is about 800 pages. and then you have supporting documents. grand jury information, fbi 302 interview notes, documents. that takes a long time to go through to make sure that the following, neil. you cannot, you absolutely cannot release information that jeopardizes an ongoing investigation. that would be foolish. number 2, you can't release information that divulges means and mets of investigative techniques and also national security interests. so you're going to probably have officials from the cia, other intelligence agencies opining. in the third area is, information is subject to executive privilege. whether it's the white house privilege or president trump's personal privilege, attorney
client. so you have all of these things going on, including deliberative process. the report will be dissected, reviewed probably 25, 50, maybe 100 lawyers and staff in the justice department and agencies. that will take time. but at the end of the day, a report will be disclosed, but it won't be complete. you'll have a lot of redactions in it. >> neil: you know, i'm not sure the exact number of pages. someone said it's up maybe to 800 or more and millions of pages of documentation outlining some of those findings which the overall report is made. so people will start, you know, going through all of that. and then second guessing how the attorney general characterized its key findings. i would imagine, gene, you know more than i, that if the
attorney general got any of those summations wrong or those bullet points wrong, mueller himself would have corrected it. >> yes, he would. but neil, i have to stress this to the american people. his letter is only 3 1/2 pages. there are probably so many findings and conclusions in that report. you can't possibly summarize with precision every single finite point. i want to stress to your viewers this: attorney general barr i feel correctly concluded that robert mueller concluded, kind of a double positive there, that there's no collusion. the word that i want everybody to focus on is this. there was no sufficient evidence to support that anyone, including the president, joined
a conspiracy. it takes a lot of evidence to prove that someone joined a conspiracy, especially with the russian government. that's a high hurdle. they didn't have sufficient evidence. but what is not in the letter, and this is why i want to see the report, was there information to suggest that the president or others aided and abetted, encouraged, counselled and consoled the russians to do a crime. i can tell a bank robber how to get a map and find a bank and what hours to rob the bank. i'm not going to join that conspiracy to rob the bank. but if i'm giving them suggestions or encouraging them to rob the bank, the law says that i could be as guilty as the principal in that conspiracy. that letter doesn't mention that
evidence one bit. let's go to obstruction. the obstruction essentially was a jump ball. robert mueller -- i like him. i have a lot of respect for him. unforced error. i think he should have said yes or no. but he said there's no -- i can't decide. now, we can debate whether attorney general barr should be the decider. what bothers me is this. if it's a jump ball, that means that on one part of the scale it says don't charge the president. the other part of the scale it says do charge the president. so that means there were prosecutors in that office guaranteed that were arguing no obstruction. but there were prosecutors arguing yes, there is obstruction. now, this is where you get into privilege, deliver of process privilege, work product privilege. that is something that the department of justice may want
to protect because i used to write cross memos agreeing to prosecute and to decline. i have people on the other side of that issue. we had competing memos. those memos are precious and attorney general bar may not release those memos to protect the whole process that prosecutors have to go to. so on the obstruction, the only complaint i have is i think attorney general barr should have been purer than caesar's wife. he should have -- i said a lot of kind things about attorney general barr. he should have stepped back and said, i'm not going to decide this jump ball. i'm going to let either congress do it or i'll sign somebody far removed from this to decide the jump ball. that's my major complaint.
>> neil: he did said there was nothing there that could make you think the president was guilty of obstructing justice or he didn't. he did leave it open to that final view, right? >> well, i respectfully disagree, neil. he wrote a memo in 2018 -- >> neil: i'm talking about his characterization of what was in this. >> right. but i'm going back to whether he should have recused himself to be purer than caesar's wife. when i got hired in june of 1989, my supervisor told me specifically, you have to be pure than caesar's wife when you work for the department of justice. i think he should have followed those words that i was taught and just say you know what? >> neil: be very careful. >> be very careful. you want the trust of the american people. >> neil: i didn't mean to jump on you but always very good having you. we'll find out soon enough on
what gene is talking about. let's go to jenna ellis, democrat democratic strategists. rebecca, the collusion part that everybody was focused on really came down to the report we're told finding out that none were charged with directly conspiring with russia to help donald trump get elected. isn't that what collusion came down to when they didn't find it? >> right. that's what we were told for two years now. more than two years, that there was direct collusion, there was coordinating with russia and that ultimately the suggestion was that the president of the united states conspired with the kremlin to steal the election in 2016. what we heard from the attorney general this week, doesn't seem to be that. as far as the 2020 candidates, the ones that have been banging the drum on this, the smart thing would be to move against something else. it's hard to win against an incumbent president when the economy is good and especially going after an issue that may or
may not have been put to bed. >> neil: now i'm hearing from the prominent democrats on the hill, including adam schiff, undoubtedly there's collusion disputing the report or at least attorney general barr's characterization of the report. you are representative steve cohen saying of barr that he pulled off a charade in the summary of the report. brad sherman doubtful about the thesis of the report. bob green of texas. all interested in just sort of reexamining barr's conclusions that they say don't add up. where is this doing? >> neil, that comes down to the fact that we just don't have the report yet. it hasn't been made public. barr is working with the special counsel to redact what has to be redacted from the grand jury, et cetera. what the problem is -- if you asked me about this two days
ago, i'd say the fat lady sang. it's over. move on. right now i'm more concerned with the fact that barr said he's going to take it a step further and let the trump white house redact what they deem necessary at their own discretion. that gives opportunities an opportunity to say hey, there might be a cover-up here. imagine if hillary clinton had done that had she been elected. >> neil: some of the conversations concern executive privilege. i know what you're getting at. the president has been eager to get this out there. he thinks it's a good idea. i know the legal issues involved to do so. but i just have the feeling that whether it's weeks or months or the poor people get their hands on this that people will still be playing politics and coming to their own conclusions. >> unfortunately there will be trying this in the court of public opinion and there will be political spin on it rather than the legal conclusions that were drawn in the memo, that are perfectly clear that no one in the trump campaign or associates
colluded with russia and there was no open question for obstruction. that is very clear. it's because of the legal sufficiency, evidence can be incriminating or not. the evidence discovered during the investigation did not have a sufficient legal bay sent for obstruction. that closes the real question. >> neil: we just -- and just to be clear here, the russians clearly were trying to interfere. you have to have a receiving party that is trying to encourage them. then through barr's analysis, the president and members of his family and businesses remained the focus of these probes that no ed that he or his aides illegally assisted the interf e interferen interference. >> that's one thing to focus on. the russians did try to interfere with. this is what they do.
>> neil: the chicago police not happy about the charges against jussie smollett entirely dropped. they want a federal probe into exactly what was going on and what was behind it being reversed. andrew joins us, federal court litigator. andrew, do they have much of a shot at getting the feds involved? >> absolutely. there is a specific federal statute that covers this exact situation. it is called the hoax statute. this isn't the first imbecile who's done this. i would expect there to be
federal charges on the federal charges carry five years. the state charges carry three. mr. smollett is still in a lot of legal peril. >> neil: i'm wondering in the smollett case, if charges are dropped, as incredible as it seems, does he have grounds to sue? >> anyone consider anyone for anything in this great country of ours. he has virtually no chance of winning. he's going to have to convince a jury or a judge that people in effect lied about him or made stuff up. the police department released the file today and there's a whole bunch of damning stuff. there's a whole bunch of people who say he absolutely did it, including the two brothers who staged the attack. >> neil: whatever you make of the fact that this was all turned around, the 16 charges dropped, apparently they didn't run that by anyone in the police department, didn't run it by the mayor's office. complete shock to anybody. that cannot be business as
usual, can it? it's horrible, a grave this handling of justice. it's not the kidnapping of the lindbergh baby but everyone who comes forward, a hate crime victim, they're going to be suspicious. it feeds the notion that there's a bifurcated system of justice for celebrities and rich people. that's the real damage in the case. >> neil: thank you very, very much, sorry for the truncated chat, given everything that's been going on today including the east room at the white house today. we'll have more aftersa this. with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can't do anything about that.
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your money, this country, politics of the 2020 race, we are on top of it all. the dow ended about 32 points. interest rates are at record lows. "the five" is now. ♪ >> greg: hi, i am greg gutfeld with jedediah bila, juan williams, jesse watters. she ice skates on a popsicle. dana perino. "the five" ." the prosecutor who dropped the jussie smollett case still thinks he's guilty. >> is mr. smollett innocent of the charges? >> no, he's not. we stand behind our investigation and our decision to charge him and our decision to bring the case to a grand jury. >> greg: to be honest, even kamala harris is completely confused. >> to be perfectly honest with you, i'm completely confused. i don't understand.