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cool. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it for "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. martha. the interview with the senate majority leader and town hall in wisconsin he tomorrow night. >> ed: looking forward to seeing both of you live in milwaukee tomorrow night. i'm ed henry in for martha mccallum she was biz in our nation's capital landing a one-on-one with mitch mcconnell fresh off a fiery speech. the left democrats seething because the democrats told them put a fork in the mueller probe told them directly time to move on. >> he brought no charges on obstructions. they indicted a number of russians. it was clear what the russians were trying to do. he pointed it out to us. what else do we need to know? it's time to move on. >> ed: get it? move on as in move started in the left in the
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wake of the clinton impeachment. mcconnell will weigh in on 2020 and what he thinks of joe biden's chances. kentucky derby madness went down in his home state. first, the claim the president has made several times and it seems to spark trump derangement syndrome in even the mildest of his critics. >> a lot of people saying they had spies in my campaign. if they had spies in my campaign that would be a disgrace to this country. >> a lot of bad things have happened. we now call it spy gate. you are calling it spy gate. a lot of bad things have happened. >> ed: those critics seem to lose their minds all over again when the attorney general william barr confirmed the president's claims. >> spying did occur? yes, i think spying did occur. >> ed: the attorney general doubled down by using what might be one of the most important tools he has as the nation's chief law enforcement officer. a dictionary. >> i think spying is a good english word that, in fact, doesn't have synonyms
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because it is the broadest word incorporating really all forms of covert intelligence collection. so i'm not going to back off the word spying. >> ed: some trouble on capitol hill today when the director of the fbi seemed to contradict him. >> that's not the term i would use. lots of people have different colloquial phrases. i believe that the fbi is engaged in investigative activity and part of investigative activity includes surveillance activity in different shapes and sizes. >> ed: so spying, surveillance, the doj inspector general's probe may finally help settle that question with some indications that explosive report could be just days away. brit hume is standing by live with his take. first, chris hahn. chris host of the podcast. good to see you, chris. >> good to see you, ed. >> ed: i assume you are not going to believe bill barr. will you believe the "new york times" when they report on front page entire story saying during the entire 2016 campaign the fbi sent
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what they called an undercover agent, a woman who flirted with george papadopoulos and posed, posed as a research assistant to get information from him? that was spying, right? >> that was intelligence work being done by law enforcement professionals who are trying to protect the united states of america from what we all agree is the threat of russians interfering in our republic. and we should be ashamed of the president and the attorney general for disrespecting law enforcement the way they are doing. >> ed: hang on. >> by saying unlawful activities monitored by the courts spying which is doggive in nature and i'm ashamed of them for that. >> ed: you know it was legal for a fact? >> i have seen nothing to show that it was not legal. i have seen no evidence that the president was surveilled unlawfully. we have seen fisa warrants. we have heard of fisa warrants. and if the president thinks he was spied on, he controls all this evidence. show us the evidence that
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you were spied upon. the fbi has said there were proper warrants to follow. this that's why christopher wray will not say even though he was appointee of the president. >> ed: he said surveillance not spying which seems like semantical debate. >> no. legal. >> ed: why before the fisa court why was the dossier unverified used before the fisa court. how do you know it was really legal and warranted? >> we have seen -- we have seen countless reports that that dossier was not the only thing used to get fisa warrants to go do some of the surveillance work that everybody points to on the right. the president saying he was spied upon is just a trick by other right wing people who want to say they were oppressed. look what they're doing to me when they are trying to distract you from the failure they have been in their job. >> ed: go back to the dictionary bill barr used. i looked it up today. spy is a quote person employed by a government to obtain secret info or intel about another. isn't that spying?
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isn't that what happened? >> look, ed, calling our fbi agents spies when they are doing their job. >> ed: hang on. i did not refer to an fbi agent. i referred to a woman who was used and posed as a research assistant. i was not attacking an fbi agent. as far as we know she is not an fbi agent. when that woman was sent to pose as research assistant to get information from george papadopoulos. was that spying? yes or no? >> i am not willing to call patriots who are defending this country spies. they are patriots. they put their lives on the line. and for the attorney general of the united states to do that to disrespect the people who put their lives on the line i would like to see him put his life on the line for this country which he has not done. i would like to see the president put his life on the line for this country. these people are out there doing dangerous work for america to protect us. and we shouldn't be calling them spies. now, i will say this, ed. if these were not properly obtained warrants, if
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methods were used that were not properly obtained and monitored by the courts that is a problem and congress should investigate it. >> ed: that's a pretty big if if they were legal or not. last question. you have been sounding the alarm brels other democrats two years about russia and allegations of treason. bill barr also testified under oath the other day that if they really wanted to get to the bottom of whether there was treason it, seems pretty paltry for them to just surveil carter page, agree? >> well, carter page had been followed before he met with trump. he was followed into trump. they weren't just following carter page because of his relationship with trump. in fact the russians called carter page a useful aid in a report that was intercepted by our own intelligence services. >> ed: if you wanted to get at whether or not there was treason it seems like you should be surveying a whole bunch more people. no? >> we don't know everybody they were surveying. we don't know exactly what was going on. we only note complaints and whining from the administration about things our law enforcement were doing to protect our country. they were not doing it for
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political reasons. they were doing it to do their job diligently. >> ed: we will see whether or not it was legal. chris, we appreciate you coming. >> in ed, thanks for having me. >> ed: as i mentioned brit hume fox news senior political analyst is here. thanks for coming. >> in thanks, ed. >> ed: i want to ask but william barr saying last week it would have been pretty anemic if you are trying to answer the fbi and other agencies whether or not there was treason in the 2016 campaign. bill barr said under oath it would be anemic to just surveil carter page. that suggests there was a whole bunch more other stuff we don't know yet? brit brit certainly suspects a whole bunch more. we have now heard him say a couple of times that he wants to get to the bottom of what actually happens. of course, his discussion of that blew up into this controversy that just manifested itself in your discussion with chris hahn in which people on the left and democrats are taking great umbrage at the word
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spy. indeed, it's been suggested today that chris wray, their fbi director contradicted barr by saying what he said which was that the fbi engages in surveillance. well, come on, ed. surveillance is a synonym for spying. if somebody is being surveilled, you are being spied on. back in the 1970s, when i was working for the columnist jack anderson the cia mounted what we thought at the time was illegal operation spying on me and other members of his staff. jack anderson himself to find out who was involved in some leaks to him. it was spying. the cia is a spy agency. when the fbi is doing cowrntsd intelligence. they are acting as the domestic spy agency. this is really silly. >> ed: you mentioned a moment ago. we looked it up. here it is the graphic for the synonym of spying and the very first one that comes up, brit. is surveillance. >> there you go. >> ed: why this semantical debate. you mentioned what was called operation mud hen when you and jack anderson and others were spied on by the government.
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why aren't more democrats concerned about civil liberties. >> they feel the word spy has a pejorative connotation. they don't want to legitimize the complaints of donald trump that he was spied on. and i don't think -- if he had never said that i'm not sure they would object to it so strenuously if he had never used that word. once he used it it becomes taboo because all things trump have to be attacked. and, you know, it's, you know, think what we are down to, ed. we had this great story that went on two years about the possibility of a trump-russia conspiracy to throw the election. and now we're down to squabbling about the difference between the word surveillance and the word spying. we are fighting over the form of bill barr's testimony before the house. and we are fighting over some tiny still redacted sliver of the mueller report. you know, this is pretty small potato when you say think about what we once thought might be out there. >> ed: exactly. what if you flip this all
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around and a few months from now william barr as attorney general decided he had allegations to say china or someone had infiltrated joe biden's campaign and the trump justice department decided to use a dossier paid for by the republican national committee to start surveying one or more biden advisors. what do you think would happen. >> i don't think anybody would be very happy about that on the left. the democrats would hate that. and so, obviously, you know, there is a case -- that would be another case of what i would like to call shoe on the other foot disease. it's an epidemic in politics and always has been. >> ed: last thing, brit, which is on wednesday jerry nadler, the democratic, of course, who chairs the house judiciary committee, says he is moving forward with contempt charges against bill barr. where do you see all of this heading? >> well, look, if the democrats want to vote to hold barr contempt they are free to do that and they may have the votes to do it. remember what they're holding in contempt as we just discussed tiny j still
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redacted portion of the mueller report. nadler hasn't even read the mostly unredacted portion of the report that's available to him. that aside, suppose they do it, do you know what happens? nothing. we saw this movie before with eric holder. he was held in contempt by the house when the republicans were charge over material he didn't furnish. maybe even testimony, i don't even remember. but for failing to give up stuff. >> ed: on fast and furious. >> that was the it end of it bill barr would have that in his wikipedia entry that he was once held in contempt it's completely toothless sanction. >> ed: brit hume senior political analyst and survivor operation mud hen we appreciate you coming. >> in thanks, ed. >> ed: tonight, senator majority leader mitch mcconnell says it's time to move on from the mueller probe. march that's one-on-one with the majority leader. >> the investigation is over.
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♪ they told everyone there had been a conspiracy between russia and the trump campaign. yet, on this central question, the special counsel's finding is clear, case closed. >> ed: senate majority leader mitch mcconnell right there urging congress and the nation to move on from the russia probe. but also questioning if everyone can finally come together and find a little bipartisan. >> with exhaustive investigation complete would the country finally unify to confront the real challenges before us? or would reremain consumed
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by unhinged partisanship and keep dividing ourselves to the point that putin and his agents need only stand on the sidelines and watch us as their job is actually done for them? >> ed: a short time ago martha mccallum sat down for exclusive one-on-one with the senate majority leader. watch. >> martha: you gave a big speech this morning about the end of the mueller investigation. >> um-huh. >> martha: you also called out sort of partisanship on both sides in the conspiracy theories out there. do you want both sides to put this to rest? >> i think we ought to put it to rest. mueller spent two years on this. he interviewed hundreds of people. he reached the conclusion there was certainly no collusion on the part of the president's part owe brought no charges on obstruction. they indicted a number of russians that was clear what the russians are trying to do. he pointed it out what else do we need to know?
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it's time to move on. >> martha: well, some would say senator graham among them, and the president that we need to investigate the ohr gins of what happened here in the intelligence agencies. are you in favor of that or do you want them to drop that as well? >> well, that's a decision for the attorney general. and i think there is already inspector general investigation going on how the investigation was initiated. these inspector generals in each department are genuinely independent people. i understand he is going to report at the end of may. so we'll get an answer to the question of you who this whole investigation began from the ig and the justice department. >> martha: what about the senate investigation? are you in favor of that being part -- >> -- depends on what the ig has to say as to whether there is anything else for us to take a look at. i think if he indicates that there was some suspicion around the opening of the investigation, senator graham might well decide that he wants to take a look
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at that. >> martha: speaker pelosi said based on attorney general barr's testimony she believes that he lied to congress. if she believes that, what must she do? >> that's an outrageous assertion. the man had a brief summary of the report, released all the report that was legally allowed to be released. put it on the internet, to call a public servant like the attorney general a liar is completely over the top. these people are somewhat suffering from trump derangement syndrome. i mean, they can't accept the fact that the president won the election. the investigation is over. why don't we turn our attention to trying to see what we can figure out what we can do together for the american people and not squander any more time? we have the answer. >> martha: you called yourself the grim reaper and you say that you are going to be what stands between
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socialism and the united states of america. so that leaves some to believe that you see yourself as a stop gap from legislation going through in some way? >> not legislation in general but things like the green new deal, which would destroy your job, take you out of your car and require to you rebuild you'r your home, yeah, i'm the grim reaper when it comes to the green new deal. medicare for none which would eliminate private health insurance for 180 million americans and drain medicare resources that have been paid to over the years by current medicare recipients will be destroyed by adding all these additional people. you betcha, those kind of proposals are going nowhere in the senate. >> martha: bret baier andy a town hall with bernie sanders, senator sanders a cucouple of weeks ago. how many of you have private insurance from your employer? how many of you would be
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willing to give up? a large majority in the room raised their hands for that that is an idea that apparently has some traction in the united states. >> well, in that particular bernie sanders meeting it did. we are really happy to have that argument, that debate with the american people in 2020. i can't wait to engage on the medicare for none proposal. it's not just bernie sanders. there are four other credible colleagues in line running for president saying they have signed up for the medicare for none and they have also signed up for the green new deal. so we're happy to have that debate. i can't wait to have that debate with the american people in 20206789. >> martha: what do you say to those who say the g.o.p. has not come up with a plan of their own and, yes, in this current environment it would probably get shot down, why not formulate a plan, present it to the american people and have all the senators, many of them running for president, vote on your plan? >> i don't know why the democrats are unhappy with obamacare, they worked on it for a long time.
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we were unable to replace it. it's there. and they are not even satisfied with the principle accomplishment they said of the obama years? >> martha: why not come up with your plan with a republican plan and present it to the american people and ask all the senators to take a vote on it? >> look, you know, exactly what to do to fix the edges of what's happened after obamacare, is something we can talk about. premiums have gone up. co-payments have gone up. deductibles have gone up. we are certainly not arguing that obamacare is adequate. what i don't understand why they are so dissatisfied with it. they made such a big deal of getting it passed out of the president signing it. if they are willing to admit that there are problems with obamacare related to the cost, to the deductibles, the co-payments, we will be glad to work with them on that. >> martha: so you are saying it must generate from democrats? you are not going to -- there are not going to be
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any generation of a fix for obamacare that's going to come through the congress on republican side? >> how would we be able to adjust healthcare in a way that we would like to with a nancy pelosi-led house? it's not possible. >> martha: in terms of the senate you have got a lot of your colleagues that are running for president in 2020. joe biden, the former colleague is at the top of the list right now in terms of the polls. do you think that lasts? >> oh, gosh, i don't know. i'm not an expert on democratic presidential politics. what i do know we have an awful lot of candidates running. it's fun to watch. the kentucky derby was last weekend and more democrats running for president than we had horses. >> martha: in terms of joe biden just staying with that for a moment. he talked about china the other day. he says everybody says china is going to eat our lunch, come on, man, not that folks, they are not competition for us said joe biden. >> i can't believe joe would say that after 8 years that china has been eating our lunch for a long time.
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stealing our intellectual property. making it difficult to do business in china. joe knows better than that china is a serious competitor. >> martha: you have 34 senate seats up in 2020. which ones do you think are the biggest concern for you? >> well, we think we have a big pickup opportunity in alabama. a seat that we unfortunately lost a couple years ago in the special election. and then we are going to have some serious challenges in places like colorado and arizona and north carolina and maybe georgia. >> martha: what do you encourage the g.o.p. senators out there to run on besides the economy? >> what we are going to be running on in addition to bragging about the economy which is as good as it has been in 50 years. we need to stop america from becoming something it's never been, a socialist country. things like the green new deal and medicare for none will fundamentally change america into something it's never been before. and we're happy to have a debate about that. we want the 2020 election to be a referendum on what do you want america to be like?
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a free enterprise society or something very, very different? >> martha: are you shocked that's the conversation we are having in the 2020 election? >> it is shocking. i never thought in my lifetime that we would be debating fund mentales like free enterprise system in america. >> martha: in terms of you mentioned the kentucky derby. what did you think about the outcome there? i had maximum security's owner on last night. he is not a happy man. >> the president didn't seem to like it. >> martha: no, he didn't. >> the stuarts apparently make these calls and appeal it to the kentucky racing commission. apparently they viewed it as a clear violation so it's over. >> martha: do you think they should have had to come answer questions? a lot of people wanted to ask them questions 'that. >> no. i don't think so. i think we have more things to do than give the third degree to the stewarts at the kentucky derby. >> martha: thank you. >> ed: good stuff. the derby is over and so is the mueller report. joe biden making first campaign stop in nevada.
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sheriff here that both of these suspects were students at the school. >> this is a terrible event. this is something that no one wants to have happen in their community. we are going to investigate that and we will get to the bottom of it to figure out how and what has occurred. >> the stem school in highlands ranch which is a suburb south of denver has 1800 students enrolled, eight of whom were injured today. according to the sheriff many are in critical condition in area hospitals. the call came in to the douglas county sheriffs a little before 2:00 p.m. mountain that there was an active shooter situation at the stem school. we are told law enforcement was on the scene within two minutes and that officers could hear gunshots as they ran into the building. it is still unclear if there was any sort of exchange of gunfire between the suspects and the officers but the sheriff says they were in custody not long after sheriff's deputies arrived. before they were arrested they managed to get to two different classrooms.
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right now law enforcement is still working to reyi reunite students with their parents. that is being done at nearby recreation center. some did manage to self-evacuate. the fbi and department of homeland security both have personnel here on scene and the sheriff says that there will be searches being done probably tonight of the two suspects' homes. ed? >> ed: looks like a scary situation that they have gotten on top of. appreciate your report. >> we must protect our border but we can do it humanely. it's being used to demonize people. >> ed: that's the former vice president joe biden taking aim at president trump in iowa today. biden the front runner most 2020 polls. tonight the real clear politics polling average has the vp up 24 points. as taking aim at biden
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controversy in his past could make for bumpy road ahead. bien was telling donors he knows president trump is going to go after his family. our correspondent trace gallagher is live in the west coast newsroom with the details. trace? >> ed, let's begin with biden's controversy involving ukraine and what was billed as an effort to fight political corruption in 2016 then vice president biden traveled to ukraine and threatened to withhold a billion dollars in u.s. loan guarantees if the country didn't fire its top prosecutor. who was accused of ignoring corrupt politicians in his own office. here is biden recounting the story two years later. watch. >> i said you are not getting a billion. i'm going to be leaving here and i think was six hours. i said i'm leaving in six hours. if the prosecutor is not fired, you are not getting the money. well son of a [bleep] [laughter] he got fired. >> the very same prosecutor who as biden noted got fired was also investigating a ukrainian energy company where joe biden's youngest
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son hunter sat on the board and reportedly collected $50,000 a month. at the time the statement department was concerned hunter biden's work for the firm could undercut his father's diplomacy. experts say the situation did create a conflict of interest but there was no evidence to conclude biden was working towards his son's interest. then there is china and what many have called the ultimate sweetheart deal where hunter biden's private equity firm secured a 1.5 billion-dollar investment from a state owned chinese bank while his dad was v.p. in his book secret empire, how the american political class hides corruption and enriches family and friends, conservative author peter schweizer describes how hunter biden was negotiating the deal while his dad was negotiating high level diplomacy. schweizer talked about it with laura ingraham. watch. >> hunter bide has no background in china. he was no background in private equity. the deal he got in the
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shanghai free trade zone nobody else had. goldman sachs, bank of america, blackstone, nobody had this deal. >> joe biden has been slammed on both sides of the aisle for dismissing threats posed by china including the aggressive missio militarizatiof islands in the south china sea. ed? >> ed: thank you, trace. joining me now is marc thiessen. >> good to be with you. >> let's start with ukraine. his son makes a lot of money consulting with energy company. >> yeah. >> ed: being investigated by a lead prosecutor in ukraine that his dad, the vice president of the united states, helps to get fired. >> that sounds bad. it's even worse than that if you go back two years before that in april 2014, joe biden is put in charge of ukraine policy and he goes to kiev with a package of u.s. aid money to boost the economy of ukraine including money for natural gas. three weeks later, hunter
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biden becomes a member of the board of this company owned by a russian -- a ukrainian oligarch. hes had no experience in energy. he has no experience in finance. he just happens to be three weeks after biden shows up and so this oligarch starts being investigated. and two years later, joe biden goes on a plane to -- he brags about it that he got the guy fired. the guy was investigating his son's company and lo and behold? guess what happened? the prosecutor was fired. the new prosecutor dropped the case. so, you know. >> ed: should he have at least recused himself? >> joe biden should not be going and trying to prosecutors he knows investigating his son's company. even if there was no quid pro quo the appearance of corruption and special dealing there would be enough to say that joe biden should thought be the point manafort administration on ukraine or doing that or hunter biden should be doing
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business in countries. >> ed: his son had interest in china. can you argue whether you support or oppose primp now pushing china so much with these tariffs that maybe it boomerangs. he can have that argument. it seems like almost nobody could say that china is not a big competitor and yet joe biden tried to say they are not a big competitor when his son has all this interest. >> again, it's worse than that joe biden -- hunter bide flies with joe biden on air force 2 to beijing. as an official member of the delegation and then 10 days after that trip he all of a sudden gets a billion-dollar investment in his private equity fund not have from a chinese company from the chinese government. the government officials that were negotiating with joe biden. again, you don't fly on -- can you imagine if donald trump went to beijing and. >> ed: brings donald trump jr. >> brings donald trump jr. and 10 days later the chinese government gives donald trump jr. a billion
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dollars? do you think like jerry nadler would be investigating that? >> ed: would be calling for another special counsel. >> yes. >> ed: to be fair the president's business interests. breaking tonight the "new york times" has a story saying they have obtained tax information that reveals from 1985 to 1994 president trump's businesses were in far bleaker condition than was previously known. the numbers show in '85 mr. trump reported losses of 46 million from core businesses largely casinos. we knew about that some of that hotels, retail space and apartment buildings and they continue to lose money every year totaling 1.17 billion in losses for the decade. i'm not trying to catch you off guard. this is just breaking now. >> sure. >> ed: as i noted the president's business dealings have been on the table as well. >> sure. two things to take away from that. this is why donald trump does not want to release his taxes to jerry nadler because if they go up to congress they are going it leak in the same way and he has no legitimate legislative reason for asking for these documents. >> he is doing a fishing
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expedition. two, i always thought that the reason why donald trump doesn't want his taxes released is nothing to do with any corruption or illegality it's because they are going to show he is not as rich as he says he is. because when you do your taxes, your incentive is to minimize your income as much as possible to pay the least amount of taxes. he has the best accountants in the world they are going to minimize his income. running for president he is saying i'm super rich and super successful but taxes tell a different story on purpose because is he trying to organize his finances in a way that lowers his taxes. >> ed: he has been under scrutiny already now maybe joe biden and the democrats will be under scrutiny as well. marc thiessen, thank you. where in the world is mike pompeo. mystery swirled around the secretary of state's whereabouts today. now we finally have the answer. we have some breaking news next. ♪ ♪
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♪ >> ed: breaking tonight news that secretary of state mike pompeo just made an unannounced trip to baghdad. pompeo going off the grid for a few hours today. we now know he was meeting with the iraqi prime minister and the president amid escalating tensions with iran. joining me now fox news strategic analyst general jack keane good to see you, general. >> good to see you, ed. >> ed: what's your sense? we have known for days there is some -- we don't have specifics but some kind of threat from iran in terms of either targeting u.s. interest, u.s. troops abroad, tell us about the significance of the secretary of state going to iraq. >> yeah, well a couple things going on here. certainly going to iraq, this is part of the united states overall strategy deter anything from happening on behalf of the iranians. secondly, listen, we got 5200 troops in iraq. they have a common border with iran. last year the iranian train the iraqi she a militia rocketed our consulate in gaza they shut it down.
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they rocketed our embassy last year as well. they have tens of thousands of popular mobilization forces or iraqi-she a militia trained by iranians in iraq. so clearly this is a place to approximate danger for us. and i think what happens here is the secretary of state wants to, one, reassure our own troops, two, get some feedback from them in terms of what they sees a happening and also, three, make sure that the iraqi government knows that the united states is there for their stability and their security, nothing has changed. and we intend to stay as long as they want us to stay. >> ed: the stakes are high there as well as with china. interesting that today amid this trade back and forth between president trump and president xi democrat chuck schumer actually seemed to side with the president a bit. watch. >> the bottom line is china will take advantage of us decade, in decade out unless we are strong with them. that's what we have to do. and it will help america in
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the long run. he had said strength what we need right now, general? >> oh, yeah. absolutely. the minority leader is absolutely correct. he agrees with the president 100 percent on this. there is a huge frustration here in the administration as a result of 150 page report that the both teams worked out, the is were dotted the t's were crossed. they thought they were coming to the finish line and the chinese leadership evidently balked at some of the findings there and have reversed their position. that frustrated the president. that's why the tweets. that's why threatening tariffs. again, the chinese are blowing back and saying the tariffs are overstated by the president. there is not a significant on us. good news though, good news is their chief economist, their chief negotiator the vice premier is arriving here and talks are taking place on thursday and despite this impasse that we're al witnessing things can
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change by the leaders when they want it to. >> ed: markets took a hit today with the economy so strong now you can see the markets the dow down almost 500 points that maybe the president believes with the economy big picture being very strong we're dealing from strength right now. general keane, we appreciate you coming. >> in yeah. good talking to you, ed. >> ed: up next, a golf celebration that actually ended up sparking political controversy. now tiger woods and president trump are both taking heat over. this. >> we are in the presence of a true legend, an extraordinary athlete who has transformed golf and achieved new levels of dominance. ♪ ♪be can do no wrong. where did you learn that? the internet... yeah? mmm! with no artificial preservatives or added nitrates or nitrites, it's all for the love of hot dogs. with moderate to severe ulceratiyour plans... crohn's,
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>> tiger, we are inspired by everything you have become and attained. the job you've done is incredible. your spectacular achievements on the golf course. your triumph over physical adversity and your relentless will to win, win, win. >> ed: it seemed to be all about golf and come backs, really nice things. president trump giving tiger woods presidential medal of freedom. but, it didn't take long for the mainstream media to make it, yes, all about politics. "the baltimore sun" actually
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writing, quote: plenty of athletes are refusing to stand with trump, not tiger woods. we wish mr. woods would have taken a stand against hatred and declined the award given the racial and ethnic rift mr. trump has widened and exploited in the country since taking office. well, joining me now is tammy bruce, president of the independent women's voice and fox news contributor. good to see you. >> good to see you, too. >> ed: i thought everybody was in favor of come backs. that's the tiger woods' story. is he a perfect recipient of the medal of freedom. not only is he a leader in his sport, remarkable athlete. but this is also about what you can accomplish and being a role model. the best role models aren't people who have been able to waltz through life. it's people who have struggled and have had adversity. and have come back because that's the issue for all of us. all of us have had trouble. the question becomes how do you return from that? and help that that is the role modeling of this. in addition to the statement a young man like that makes when it comes to a sport as you know is not necessarily
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open yet when it comes to diversity and he plays in a manner that is extremely competitive. he knows what he wants. is he a perfect athlete. he is the perfect individual in the sense that he knows what it is like to struggle and he knows what it takes to come back. i think he is the perfect fellow for this. >> ed: to your point president obama gave the first black player on the pga tour who was sort of a jacque robinson of golf this same medal. paul krugman of the "new york times" decides to take a pot shot at this president quote i'm old enough to remember when presidential medals of freedom were giving for showing courage and making sacrifices on behalf of the nation and the world. tiger woods hits golf balls for money. okay. you look at the list. look i love bob dylan, stevie wonder, previous folks who have gotten this award. tom hanks? bill cosby president bush. >> michael jordan, basketball player. throws ball in hoops. did i not hear mr. krugman
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complaining about that sports and movies and television and theater are a part of our cultural fabric. they are our cultural fabric and perfect recipients for the medal of freedom. they entertain us. they help create conversations and athletes, especially. the nature of being able to -- these are competitive aspects about using your own discipline not physically but mentally as well. arnold palmer or michael jordan or mr. woods. if anyone else had said it there would be arguments about racism. we do need to look at this as a dynamic it's about world freedom, i don't know. but americans and the american culture does cricket to the condition and the quality of the world and whether it's barbra streisand or ellen degeneres. this is the president's prerogative. this is what he wants to do. tiger is the perfect example of what you can do in america if you try hard enough.
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>> ed: last question i have 30 seconds. tiger is a black man in america. doesn't he have the independent right to decide who he wants to stand with or not? >> it's interesting. mr. woods' real crime is a thought crime. he likes the president. because anybody the left as you pointed out in your opening like the newspaper and others liberals on social media complaining that god forbid mr. woods is thinking for himself. that he is chooses his friends. that like his sport, like his thresm, is he going to be disciplined and decide what he wants for himself and his family. his crime was a thought crime and i'm glad that he is not conforming. >> ed: tammy, thank you. more of "the story" next.
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>> ed: that's "the story" for this tuesday night martha is back tomorrow starting 6:30 eastern time when 2020 democratic presidential hopeful amy klobuchar joins martha and bret for a town hall live from milwaukee. don't miss it. tucker is up next.
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." a democratic lawmaker in the city of philadelphia berates and threatens teenage girls for praying outside of an abortion clinic. it's a remarkable story you might not believe it actually happened had it not been caught on tape. but it was. we want to begin tonight with trace gallagher who has details on exactly what happened. trace? >> tucker, the entire video of pennsylvania democratic lawmaker brian sims verbally harass ago woman protesting outside of planned parenthood was live streamed on periscope for 8 minutes. we're going to show you the scene of the full 8 minutes which is representative sims ma


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