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>> amy: do not be fooled by the green color here. i will be going with the vikings. my dad once wrote a book called "will the vikings ever win the super bowl." he wrote this a long time ago and sadly it's still valid. >> martha: we want to give you a moment to give your closing comments this evening and we thank you for being here. >> amy: well, i want to thank everyone from wisconsin for being here. i am someone i think, you can see this, we need to move together as a country. that believes the heartland is very important to our country. that is not just fly over land. the police if we are going to move forward in the country we need to meet our challenges somd i will repeat what i said in the beginning that if you are going to run for president in this country, you have to have real
solutions for real people's problems and you have to be willing to pay for them. and to put it out there right there. i'm approving progressive. i have gotten things done. i'm not afraid of working across the aisle with republicans and independents to do that as long as we are doing it together and doing it for america. so i hope to have your support. and it's a long, long primary season. but i love being out there with people. you are going to see me again. thank you. >> bret: ladies and gentlemen, from a senator in the global chart. thank you for being here. this has been a great show. >> martha: "the story" is starting up on the balcony right now. so stick around after the break. [applause]
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get to with what happened here in washington. but we begin tonight in milwaukee where 2020 presidential candidate amy klobuchar set the stage in our own fox news town hall to win the battle for heartland voters in a crowded 2020 field. >> now we are at a time of stability in our country. to me, this means we are at a moment in time we should be governing from opportunity and not from chaos. everyone in this country should see health care not as a privilege but a right. i think it's important to run on an optimistic, economic agenda. >> martha: fox news politics editor this is a very crowded field. you've really got to stand out. so how did she do? >> i think she did herself a heck of a lot of good. i was reminded listening to her answer, you and bret put her through the paces where they
were a lot of top audiences. the used to sound like she sounded moderate, she sounded sensible, she sounded reasonabl reasonable. joe biden, you talked about tonight, takes up a lot of space in that field. if you are looking for a democrat who could win in this state, if you're at the american voter who says i want someone who can beat donald trump in the upper midwest, she sounded like that candidate tonight. >> martha: when we asked her where she is right now in the polls, biden is at 39%. keep in mind, those are national polls. a lot of name recognition goes into that. she's at 1%. she made the point. >> 1.3%. >> martha: we see candidates in the lower digits like barack obama, like bill clinton, come from behind. >> she needs the dynamic of this race to change. there is no way she gets where she's going from here and she's basically owned that fact. something that has to happen to joe biden before something
really good can happen for amy klobuchar. though she is in position to do that. that lien is there. i think we had underappreciated how many democrats wanted a return to the traditional values of the party, the party of the working man and woman in this part of the country and she's there. i think she did it with a lot of humanity. when she talked about her dad, talk about what life is like, she did a really good job of humanizing her. >> martha: we thought the nickname question might take a beets to figure out. she went to "heartland amy" pretty quick. but the biggest hurdle is the economy. we frame that package, we sent some folks out to talk to people. those people where they are. they feel like things are going pretty well for they are not sure they want to change gears. >> 1972, 1984, 1996. presidents who had problems in other areas, bill clinton himself, the markets know this is true. it's hard to get voters to its awesome and out when the economy
is going great. her answers on that were part of her evening because what are you going to say? >> martha: you can change the subject. which is pretty much what we heard on the economy. chris, thank you very much. great to see you tonight and thanks for all your help. milwaukee working with the team as we always do. senator klobuchar faced a question tonight from one of our town hall participants that many in the 2020 field including joe biden are grappling with. watch this. >> why should progressive support you? >> i am a proven progressive. [applause] the last time i checked, the last time i checked, if you want to be a progressive and support progressives, then you are supposed to make progress. >> martha: here now, donna brazile, former chair of the democratic national committee and fox news contributor. you are looking at the all of these candidates, you have a while to listen to any global chart. did she increase her viability in your mind or not?
>> absolutely. i think she took advantage of the stage she had today to talk to voters. if i had a nickname for amy klobuchar, i'd call her common sense amy, because many of her answers were just common sense in terms of talking about the economy, the support for public schools, public school teachers. i thought she did herself a lot of good, especially for those democrats who are still shopping for a candidate. she had a lot of items that she checked off the list. while i think on the economy she needs to get a little bit more stronger in the future, i think overall she did a great job. >> martha: donna, what is the argument on that? you look at at 3.248%, the unemployment at the lowest rate in 50 years. i could go on and on with the stats of what's going on out there. what would you advise these candidates because they are all going to have the answer that question and you just said, you can have to go with something
stronger? >> you know what? quality of life is also very important. so it's great that we've got more people working than ever before. it's amazing that our economy is still coming and buzzing after the terrific downfall we had back in 2008. i think all the democrats need to talk about is improving the quality of life for all americans and making sure we can pay our bills. most americans as you know are working 1-2 jobs making ends meet. afraid of their own personal situation. i do believe amy gave a good answer in terms of tax cuts, what she would keep, what she's fearful of in terms of the deficit. but more importantly, she gave a lot of common sense answers on those other issues that the american people care about. health care costs as well as criminal justice reform. i give her a great, successful
rating tonight because i do believe that there are democrats who are still looking for candidates. amy klobuchar showed tonight that she could be in the top ten. >> martha: let me ask you this. as a prosecutor, there is a bit of a club located history when you go out this evening with her and one of the questioners did as well. she really went after -- very tough on crime, when she was the prosecutor of hendon penn county over in minnesota hendon penn county over minnesota. in cases where civilians were killed by police. she did not prosecute those cases in the way that some of those communities would've wanted her to do. so how much are those kind of things in the past, the top prosecutor, in an environment when there's so much discussed about criminal justice perform
dell microform? >> those who live through the '90s, no question that that was a it's time to take a look at how we treated nonviolent offenses, how we treated police totality. she also talked about that it's time for a second chance act. we have a bipartisan bill that the president signed, now it's time for us to take a look at our criminal justice system to see how we can improve it for the future. we are probably one of the largest western nations with so many people incarcerated. it's time to take a look at tha that. it's costing us not only the likelihood for those who committed crimes, those who are victims of crimes, but it's time we take a different look at this whole process. >> martha: donna, thank you very much. could it see you tonight. >> i thought you did a great job too. >> martha: thanks, donna. we'll see you back here. so house democrats in the white house are at war tonight, folks.
what happens next in this drama after a house committee votes to hold attorney general's fee attorney general barr in contempt, and they are talking about the jail in the capitol building which ht been used since 1939. unbelievable, we'll come back with that story. >> attorney general barr having proved himself for being the personal attorney of president trump rather than the attorney of the united states. it recommends our best custom fit orthotic to relieve foot, knee, or lower back pain. so you can move more. dr. scholl's. born to move.
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>> approaching a constitutional crisis? we are now in it. we are now in a constitutional crisis. >> martha: there you go. jerry nadler, the representative, the battle between the white house and congress is escalating tonight. house judiciary committee voting to hold general william barr in contempt of congress today. president trump then exerted executive privilege over the report and the underlying documents. >> the trump administration has taken obstruction of congress to new heights. no person, not the attorney general, and that the president, can be permitted to be above the law. >> chairman nadler is asking the attorney general of the united states to break the law.
the attorney general is protecting information, grand jury information, confidential information that he cannot release. >> martha: this has escalated in a very dramatic way. now some democrats, whether they are joking, some are, some not about potentially locking up the attorney general and other members of the trump administration. like this. >> you have a jail down there in the basement. if we were arresting all the people in the administration, we would have overcrowded jails situation. i'm not for that. >> we have a lawless attorney general or lawless secretary of the treasury or some other official, i'm not willing to throw them in jail but i'm ready to do so. >> martha: here now, congressman andy biggs, arizona, republican from arizona. served on that judiciary candidate
what is your reaction to what we have watched play out here? >> well, i was quite frankly shocked. i think it was focused on politics rather than law. i feel like at the last to go hearings that we've had with the chicken incident and then today, to me that it's absolutely incredible that my colleagues on the other side of the aisle admits basically that they have a subpoena that was overly broad and not constructed properly and they want to fix that by fixing their motion to hold them in contempt? that's not the way it's done. this move outside the parameters of law and the rules is outrageous, quite frankly. >> martha: it's pretty shocking that they have not gone into read the more unredacted version of this report. if they did that, perhaps if they were going through everything and they said can you know what, this redaction is a concern to us.
we'd like to itemize this, would like to discuss it with you. would like to have the supporting documents on this, perhaps. this is representative hank johnson of georgia. listen to this. >> this is all part of a cover-up. and it is up to this committee to ensure that we get that report because we have lawful responsibilities, constitutional response abilities , responsibilities, to engage with. one in case is possibly impeachment. how can we impeach without getting the documents? >> martha: can you answer that question for him, congressman? >> here's the deal. that's what it's all about. it's all about impeachment and that's what they actually want. the investigation is done, mr. mueller completed it, the report is out there. one of the parts they are talking about is 182 pages, six lines redacted, and they want
millions of documents. they do not want mr. 's belated to come in and testify. that's not what this is about. they want to lay the groundwork to try to impeach president trump. they are testing the waters to see if it works. i don't think the american people are going to support tha that. >> martha: one of the things senator klobuchar said tonight as well, there is this different language being used with regards to obstruction. there were ten instances of instruction in the report, but that's not really the case. there was evidence laid out and at the end of each of those ten, but we didn't find at the end of carter page and the like. is that correct or no? >> you are exactly right. as they go through it and iterate these ten incidents, they always conclude that there is no obstruction. they declined to prosecute. they declined to investigate further. that's the problem with this.
yeah. spoon representative, thank you very much. could have you here tonight. joining me now, charlie hurt's and mullally gentlemen, thank you very much for being here. i want to start with you. there is a suggestion out there today, the editorial in "the wall street journal" that this is the impeachment. this is the playing out of the whole process because democrats don't actually want to impeach but they wants to do this very dramatic action because they probably you know that impeachment is probably not a great move. >> is probably right that impeachment is not a great move right now. but what they are doing is fulfilling what they see as their mandate in congress for accountability. mueller served it up to them. in this report, he kicked it to
congress but he didn't say there was no obstruction. he said that this could go either way. congress, now it's your turn. i think that's what they are trying to do. >> martha: that is a good point. charlie, on that point, do you think that he abdicated his responsibility in this report and dumped it all on the attorney general's lap and he has now become the focus on this? >> i don't know if he abdicated his possibility or not, but let's remember that the only real responsibility he has is he would prosecute or not prosecute. he did neither. i think all the fighting was he right now up on capitol hill should reveal these people to be fundamentally unserious but they are treating a guy like bill barr who i look at him very -- he looks like the only adult on capitol hill. he him and jim stenson berger, the only adult on capitol hill and these people are running
around with fried chicken and doing all this nonsense. what upsets them is not what's in the report. what upsets them is what's not in the moment report is a shred of evidence that any of this cockamamie story that they've been peddling for the past few years. they did not need another lawyer. they need a psychiatrist. >> charlie, look. i'm 100% with you on the fried chicken thing. that's ridiculous. it looked foolish and unbecoming of a member of congress. but let's be clear, barr didn't do himself any favors when mueller came out and said, hey, you mischaracterized. you are not honest with people about our findings and our rulings. >> martha: that's not what he said. he didn't say he was honest about the findings. he did not argue with the findings. he said the findings were accurate. he didn't like the whole execution of the way it came out -- >> the letter specifically said he
mischaracterized. >> the other thing that matters is bill barr turned right around and did what he did not have to do which is release the hold that gum report. >> most of it. >> martha: thank you very much.ar more of "the story" coming up next. with a terrain management system for... this. a bash plate for... that. an electronic locking rear differential for... yeah... this. heading to the supermarket? get any truck. heading out here? get the ford ranger. the only adventure gear built ford tough. since you're heading off to dad... i just got a zerowater. but we've always used brita. it's two stage-filter... doesn't compare to zerowater's 5-stage. this meter shows how much stuff, or dissolved solids, gets left behind. our tap water is 220.
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glad to have senator klobuchar tonight. tucker carlson getting all warmed up and getting ready for his show. take it away, tucker. ♪ >> tucker: good evening, and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight" for the president holding a rally in panama city, florida. we'll go to it live when he begins speaking. one thing we are going to be watching for is whether the president responds to the seismic story that broke last night on cable news. here's how they summarized it. >> with c and then tonight, i'm don lemon. are you listening? the president of the united states is a fraud and a con man. >> tucker: holy smoke six make this sound like a big development. what