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tap for the 9:00 p.m. hour and the whole duration. all 60 minutes of it. sean hannity! >> sean: how come i wasn't invited to the party? all had you to say, hannity, swamp, tucker's show. i would be there. happy birthday, tucker. >> tucker: thanks, sean. >> sean: enjoy the cake and we will celebrate the next time you are up in this swamp. >> tucker: i will be there.eb >> sean: wish everybody the best from me. welcome to "hannity." we start tonight with a fox news alert. tonight just documents just obtained by judicial watch show,y guess what, the pit bull of robert mueller, andrew weissmann, he was topped by mueller to lead the entire hiring effort for the special counsel's witch-hunt. that's right, the andrew weissman, of all people. now we know why mueller's team was filled with, oh, far left clinton allies, zero republican donors. after all, the same andrew weissmann, he was attending
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hillary clinton's election night party that never happened. but the same partisan hack who donated thousands of dollars to democrats. the same guy, according to sidney powell's book, "license to lie," known forr withholding exculpatory evidence, tens of thousands of jobs were loste at andersen accounting because of his wrongful prosecution in the case. remember that case was overturned 9-0. why did mueller hire this guy in the u.s. supreme court? thn't forget, he is the guy who put four merrill executives in jail for a year. that case was overturned by the fifth circuit. one year of four people's lives ruined. yet bob mueller appointed him to be the most powerful person in this entire witch-hunt investigation which at the end of the day, frankly, in retrospect, gives so much more weight to the fact that they found nothing. now make no mistake, mueller's hyperpartisan team of investigators, they were hell bent on taking down a duly elected president of
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the united states. they were no different than many other high ranking unelected government bureaucrats in the deep state. moments ago, we can, judicial watch bringing to light several documents surrounding doj official bruce ohr and state department official kathleen kavalec. keep in mind kavalec and ohr met with christopher steele. issuing a warning about the credibility of christopher steele to the fbi, to the doj prior to that first fisa warrant application against carter page to spy on the trump campaign. and still after the election, documents now show that ohr and kavalec were still obsessed with using the dossier. they knew it was phony, to take the president down. on november 21st, 2016, kavalec emailing ohr a link to a "mother jones" left wing magazine article based on the phony hillary bought and paid for russian dossier.
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ohr emailed back, "ipa really hope we can get something going here. we will take another look atly this." subsequent conspiratorial email to ohr, kavalec gave a reference her meeting notes with christopher steele, 10 days before the first fisa application is put uh-oh, he is political.ap uh-oh, it's not vetted. nobody verified. from the doj to the state department to the fbi, the highest ranking officials -- not rank and file --dash in all areas of obama's government were totally obsessed with christopher steele and his clinton paid for russian propaganda. so obsessed that they used clinton's hit man. there he is back. sid "vicious" blumenthal to corroborate the dossier in their fisa request. the biggest clinton partisan hack to corroborate a clinton opp research to spy on a member of the trumpmp campaign? watch this. >> i have seen each factual
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assertion listed in that dossier. and then i have seen the fbi's justification. and when you are citing newspaper articles as corroboration for a factual assertion that you have made, you don't need an fbi agent to go do a google search.. and when the name sidneyam blumenthal is included as part of your corroboration, and you are the world's leading law enforcemente agency, you have a problem. and you can blame it on the fisa court if you want to, but i hope brennan is smart enough to know judges don't investigate. they have to rely on the honest word of the people presenting it to them and if that honest word is missing, then the judge is going to make the wrong decision. >> sean: remember, we told you the top of the fisa application says "verified." it's unverifiable. now, former congressman gowdy has seen the fbi's fisa request against carter page. he knows that sid vicious blumenthal and circular reporting, remember michael isikoff, same sourcing, they acted as though it was separate sourcing. they were both used to bolster the unverified garbage that comey swore was true to the best of his knowledge and
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verified. now with the investigations from horowitz and now mr. durham as well are underway, rush limbaugh rightly pointing out the deep state is now in a panic mode for good reason. take a look. >> the next thing to keep a sharp eye out for, folks, and that is people fleeing the country. if you see james comey in argentina, if you see james clapper somewhere where they can't be extradited, then you will know that we are getting close. when these people startt leaving -- i'm half joking. it hasn't started yet. but man, are they nervous, because the attorney general has appointed a prosecutor to look into the investigation. >> sean: all right. now that's funny. i wish i thought of that. when you see them in venezuela. all right. it's now every man, every woman for themselves and, by the way, the circular firing squad i told you about last night is forming.
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and that includes the paragon of virtue himself, mr. james comey. he is blaming former cia director john brennan for pushing the dossier as,, "crown material." but as fox news is reporting, that brennan and clapper, they are actuallynd blaming comey, claiming that the pair always opposed the fired fbi director's use of the dirty dossier. at this point, the only thing that comey, clapper, and brennan seem to agree on are n the semantics surrounding the term "spying," which, by the way, did occur in spite of what they are saying against the trump campaign and it happened not once, not twice, but multiple times. over and over again. but according to comrade brennan, yes, comrade brennan, it didn't really happen. the truth is not the truth. we are living in this, you know, alice in wonderland of john brennan. w take a look. >> does cia spy? yes. do we spy against foreign adversaries? yes. do we spy against domestic individuals? no, we do not. we work very closely within
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the fbi. and when the russians were trying to interfere in that election and to change the outcome of it in their favor, we cia and fbi worked very collaboratively so that we could have that ability to see what the russians were doing and who they were working with, so when william barr said spying, it clearly indicatedd that there ws something that was inappropriate, if not illegal. nobody used the term "spying" when they are referring to legitimate, predicated, authorized investigative actions on the part of the fbi. >> sean: he is lying. but of course, fake news, conspiracy tv wouldn't ask him a question. brennan spied. they spied on the trump campaign. they spied on carter page. they spied on papadopoulos. they spied on sam clovis. there was spying all over the place, weaponizing the powerful tools of intelligence. by the way, didn't brennan seem awfully defensive for someone who has done nothing wrong? d one former federal prosecutor
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is now openly wondering why brennan is so worried about the ongoing investigation into the origins of the russian probe. let's take a look. >> if what director brennan is saying is true, then what's he worried about? but to hear them talk about like it's a fishingut expedition, after we just had a two-year investigation of the administration under circumstances where thee justice department didn't articulate a crime that itit was actually looking at, we spent two years on a fishing expedition under the guise of collusion? they are now going to complain about oversight of the intelligence and the justice department and the fbi? i that seems ridiculous to me. >> sean: of course andy is right. brennan, comey, clapper, strzok, lynch, page, others have a lot of reasons to be worried w tonight. the trump campaign was spied on at the height of a presidential election at the direction of the highest ranking bureaucrats, all who hated donald trump.on some who rigged an investigation into his opponent and got her off the hook when she obviously
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committed crimes including obstruction. now fraud against a fisa court was premeditated and it was committed by these same officials. after a three year witch-hunt conducted into all things trump because of russian disinformation bought and paid for ironically by hillary clinton,n, well, this wasn't just bad, it's criminal.l, all will be held accountable. but not if delusional trump haters on the left get their way. they have this psychotic anti-trump rage that is built inside them. inside the democratic party. and their number one fans, the media mob, it's now at an all-time high. they are destructive. they are vengeful. hopes and dreams have totally fallen flat. they are floundering, all oft them. the mueller witch-hunt came up empty. the trump agenda is working and breaking records every single solitary day. good news for the country, i guess that's bad news politically for those that dislike the president. the economy is booming and
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setting records. the president's approval numbers are reaching all-time highs. and in a sign of shear desperation, democrats on capitol hill are focusing nearly 100 percent of all their efforts on re-litigating, reinvestigating the mueller probe. four separate occasions.s. no collusion, no collusion, no collusion, none whatsoever. and in a letter to the housese judiciary chairman jerry nadler, the white house counsel threw down the gauntlet writing, "congressional investigations are intended to obtain information to aid in the evaluating potential legislation, not to harass political opponents or to pursue an unauthorized do-over of exhaustive law enforcement investigations conducted by the department of justice."co and i will add the fbi. and i will add the house intel committee. and i will add the bipartisan senate committee. nadler is requesting a wide range of documents related to mueller's investigation
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after voting to hold the attorney general barr in contempt. why? because the attorney general refused to break federal law. he refused to reveal grand jury information in the special counsel's report. because if the attorney general did, these genius lawmakers, what they asked him to do, he would be in trouble and meanwhile congressman, the cowardly schiff himself is busy obsessing about phantom claims still of obstruction. he has never mentioned hillary and subpoenaed emails and bleach bit and hammers. i wonder why. he is the chairman of the house intel committee. he is supposed to help keep our country safe from threats abroad. but yet, he wants a fifth investigation into a nonexistent crime. not committed by anybody like the president of the united states. it's not just schiff and it's not just nadler who are totally preoccupied, by the way, with these conspiracy theories. other democrats, they are busy, wasting your tax money with an upcoming -- they are
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going to do a 12-hour long dramatic reading of the full 448 page mueller can't wait to see the c-span ratings for this extravaganza. it is a sad state of affairs inside the democratic party. and it might even be worse among their pals in the deepal state and in the media mob. all right.t. joining us now, former u.s. solicitor general, fox news contributor ken starr, along with former clinton pollster, advisor mark penn. if the attorney general, ken starr, did what nadler and company are asking him to do, now by the way, there was only one full line and seven partial lines that they can see. but if he handed over the totally unredacted muellerve report, would the attorney general be breaking the law, violating the law? >> he would be violating the law. the law has been clear. this is not a policy. it is the law of the land. designed to protect grand jury secrecy.te
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he would also be violating justice department policy. so it would be a double whammy. he is doing the right thing. he is doing it in the right. way. the criticism of him i think is profoundly unfair. >> sean: why would -- for 206 years, the house judiciary committee has never allowed a witness to be questioned by people other than the members themselves. now, maybe nadler doesn't think he is very smart. i don't think he is particularly that bright myself. but let's put my personal feelings aside. nadler, he can have the lawyers write questions for him. that's fine. but he has to read them himself. but do you think unaccountable, unelected lawyers should deviate from what is a 206 year tradition of that committee? >> they really need a very strong justification for it. i was subjected when i appeared before the house judiciary committee. but that was for impeachment. we are nowhere, i hope,
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near impeachment. it is the rare, rare exception. it does go, as you say, against the traditions of the judiciary committee. and i just think because the judiciary committee consists of lawyers, they should ask their own questions. it's a matter, frankly, of tradition, but also decorum. why should the attorney general of the united states, confirmed by the senate, be answering questions by highly paid staff lawyers? i think the attorney general was in his rights in saying no, i'm happy to answer your questions. you were elected.ns you ask the questions but not hired >> sean: in the starr report, i know i asked you the last time, but i'm getting older. my memory is failing a little bit. how many specific felonies did you put, list in the starr report that bill clinton likely committed? >> right. we had 11 counts leading up to abuse of power beginning c with perjury. perjury before the grand jury was, i think, the most t important, provocative, obstruction of justice.
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and by the way, he was found in contempt by united states district court judge. judge susan weber wright for obstruction of justice. not for the perjury that he clearly committed.e and so, if you reread that report, and by the way, i stand by that report. w it's factually and it was unhappy for the country but it nonetheless was absolutely accurate. let me just add a footnote. book one of the mueller report, when you read it, and now it's going to be dramatically read as you said. book one demonstrates in page after page that there was no collusion. the no collusion isn't just a bottom line.e. it is on virtually every page. and i really commend everyone to read something that i think has been very little said about. s and that's during thean transition, vladimir putin was eager to establish communications with the trump tower. why? he did not have communications with the trump tower. >> mark penn, you have been a very honest honest democrat.on
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you were a clinton poster for years. you are a smart guy. you understand public polling. between what the democrats are doing, devoting all of their time to this, pretty much 99.9%. and the new green deal, the other 1%. what is this doing to the party politically, four separate occasions, no issue of collusion, conspiring. >> of course,, in the days of ken starr, i pointed out then that the republicans were off track spending all their time on this. so today, i point out the t same thing, look, i had a poll question recently, ist said, do you want investigations or infrastructure? well, okay, maybe it was a lay-up, but it was 80% infrastructure. 20% investigations. does the public want congress which has about a 20% approvalic rating, compared to trump -- >> sean: a little lower. you are a little high on that. i think it's 12 to 17%. depending on which poll. >> you look at that, they don't want congress doing a reinvestigation.
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they want infrastructure. they want healthcare. they want immigration solutions. i don't know why the democrats haven't moved on the way the republicans learned to move on when they got stung in 1998. >> sean: they are the ones that changed the law, though, mark. this is interesting. nadler didn't want ken starr's i report out. he was working under a very different statute called the independent counsel's statute. now we changed it. it's interesting, the attorney general didn't have to reveal one word of mueller's report, but he did anyway to be transparent. >> that's absolutely correct. the nation felt so jarred by ken starr's report, they said we don't want to have the independent statute again. we want a more confidential, less political, less public process, and of course now the democrats are cutting against that. and i think they are cutting against their own interests as well. >> sean: i think they should keep doing what they are doing. working out so great so far for them and working out for the country, thank goodness. we have 1.7 million more jobs
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than we have people on unemployment. pretty good. one of the many records. thank you, both. now with the mueller probe over, well, the attorney general is now finally getting to the bottom of what we have been investigating now for over two years on this program. and because of his attemptse to move from the exhaustive two year witch-hunt, well, investigate the investigators, holding our government accountable, well, democrats have vilified barr. some have even proposed that he be thrown in jail byai the sergeant of arms and put in handcuffs. today during an event on capitol hill, the attorney general reportedly tracked down speaker pelosi and asked her if she brought her hand cuffs. here with moregr analysis, gregg jarrett, fox news legal counsel, of course, and legal contributor and author of the best selling book, "russia hoax," and fox news contributor, jason chaffetz. jason, you are the one that told me and i didn't know this that congressmanti ratcliff told you that the
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top of a fisa warrant had some very interesting words on it. what are they? >> yeah, the very top of this fisa application, john ratcliffe has said this publicly, in all capital letters, it says "verified." "verified application." that's what these people were filling out the form and signing their name to. and that includes comey and some very high level people and they did it not just once, but they did it multiple times, and there is no doubt that was a lie. it was not true. it was deceptive. >> sean: do you know what trey gowdy is talking about and more specifically emails in december of 2016 between brennan and comey?nd >> i mean, trey gowdy and john ratcliffe are two people that have seen all this material unredacted and what he is signaling and what he is saying here is this spreads out above and beyond just the department of justice and the fbi official. how the intelligence
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community --nt you will hear the acronym ic community. it means intelligence community. what were brennan, clapper, h some of these other clowns that were in place, what were they doing and how were they doing it and why did they choose to do a lot of this overseas? it's because they could bypass a lot of the constitutional restraints they would have here in the united states. h i think this spreads well above and beyond just some people at the highest echelon of the fbi. >> sean: let me ask you about a report and joe digenova's comments, gregg, that john durham has already convened a grand jury in connecticut. they have already gottendy documents. they have already talked to intel people. durham's efforts is operating alongside fisa abuse, its investigator, f inspector horowitz. i have sources telling me horowitz is perhaps finished with his report and certainly the attorney general has been briefed on what is coming. and according to joe digenova, horowitz has determined three of the extensions against carterr page, and thus spying on the trump administration, were illegally obtained.
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and on the brink of finding that the first fisa application was completely illegal. thoughts? >> i think joe is right. there will be a separate part of the ig report, based on the lies and deceptionson and concealing of evidence to the fisa judges. but you know, you need a u.s. attorney because the inspector general could only uncover evidence that he has access to and people who are still employed by the government. you need a u.s. attorney a like durham to be able to subpoena people to haul them in front of a grand jury. i suspect there is a grand jury and they're well on their way to potential criminal indictments. the question is, who is in legal jeopardy? well, you and i haveue discussed this before. it is likely james comey, andrew mccabe. james baker, peter strzok, lisa page, maybe john brennan and james clapper. certainly christopher steele
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and glenn simpson. >> sean: what about the fingered byeral, peter strzok and lisa page, as running the exoneration of hillary? what about biden and obama and meetings that supposedly took place in the oval office about these very topics? >> well, that should have been covered in the first report that came out last may. and so it's unclear to me whether or not the ig will revisit it in his second report. >> sean: great work both of you. appreciate you being with us. jason is in for us friday night and look forward to having him, actually a week from friday i think. anyway, coming up, the left, liberals the media have been calling senator lindsey graham, calling on him to resign, really? he'll join us next to explain why he is not going anywhere. denver has decriminalized psychedelics, magic mushrooms. wait until you see the videoaw lawrence jones got from the mile high it is worse than you think and more straight ahead.
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♪ >> sean: tonight, the unhinged, angry hate filled democrats,pa their allies in the hate trump media monger continuing very smear campaign. now they are targeting senator lindsey graham after he encouraged donald trump jr. to exercise fifth amendment rights in response to a senate panel subpoena about his russian contacts. for the record, don spent nearly 30 hours testifying already. when is enough enough? take a look. >> it's progress, yes. you have u.s. senators telling the president's family to ignore the rule of law. that's nuts. >> he is chair of the judiciary committee. >> yes. >> yes. i know his numbers were horrible before he starting donald trump's bff. but is it worth it? that's an answer, you know,
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only he can provide. chris, lindsey, if you have an issue with anything i'm saying, you know my number, baby. give me a call. >> sean: can i just help these people out.. the fifth amendment is the rule of law. a rule of law is based on a little document called the constitution of the united states. the senator is standing strong, supporting the president's agenda, and it's a creating records on every front. exposing the deep state cabal by pushing for more fisa declassification, securing our border, just revealed a new bill to reform the asylum process. here to explain more senateim judiciary committee chairman lindsey graham himself. maybe i it's been a long time since i have been inri school, but the fifth n amendment, i thought, was our right to invoke. do we not have -- did that right get taken away and i missed it?
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>> let me tell you why i weighed in on this. mueller, i thought, was the final word on all things criminal. the last thing you want, sean, is 535 special counsels. richard burr is a good friend of mine. he is a great chairman of the intel committee. he is going to issue a goodtt report, i think, telling uspo how to deal with russia in the future. and what happened on the intel side.l what i worry about is when is enough enough? now you have got the house intel committee bringing accusations against jay sekulow and -- >> sean: it's ridiculous. >> jared kushner's lawyer. that they conspired with michael cohen to lie to the house intel committee. what you see happening is congressional committees are now beginning to take the place of prosecutors. and that's dangerous for usrs all. and if i were don jr.'s lawyer, i would be reluctant to put him back in an environment where two of the people on the intel committee in the senate are running for president of the united states. they want to impeach barr. they want him to resign. they want me to resign.
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and they think brett kavanaugh and they think brett kavanaugh was bill cosby in high school. these people are going nuts. >> sean: they want a do-over. last time i checked, too. not only did we have a fifth amendment right, i think we had something called attorney-client privilege. i think that exists. i read that somewhere. >> can we play that out a bit? nadler is going to get trump reelected more than any single person on the planet. >> sean: maybe adam schiff. in the running. >> a close second. schiff is saying is he going after the president's lawyer, abby lowell, jared kushner's lawyer, based on the word of michael cohen. what i worry about don jr. if we use michael cohen's testimony, we will be going after everybody in america. >> sean: didn't he plead guilty of lying to congress? >> you have to get them out of jail to testify. richard burr is a wonderful fellow. my problem is not with richard burr. >> sean: i have a problem with richard burr. you and i differ richard burr -- >> i don't. >> sean: he spent 30 hours.
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now somebody that again, admitted to lying before congress, okay? >> right. >> sean: then a criminal referral went forward by jim jordan and mark meadows about the second appearance. and so at this point -- all right. i want to ask you this. so we are going to, in the days ahead, we are going to get the fisa applications. grassley-graham memo.. nunes memo. bulk of the application is hillary bought and paid, unverified dossier, which even the dossier's author doesn't stand by. then we will get the 302 meeting notes with ohr and christopher steele. then we are going to get the gang of 8 material, which i understand is not reallych good about the fbi admitting things they did wrong. t the fourth bracket we talk about are a series of emails that have some really serious admissions in them amongst the fbi. and the fifth bucket will be exculpatory statements that they didn't use on purpose.
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anything else that we're going to find out our deep state did to try and undo a president election, presidential election? >> i think you are going to get all of that, hopefully it will be declassified and given to the public. i don't know if anybody on the other side will care, which will be the sad thing,wi you know, all of my friends at cnn are going nuts over, you know, my concern about congress getting out of its lane. but have you heard one person from these otherse networks even show concern that maybe the fbi gave a statement to the fisa court that the dossier was accurate and they told otherac people that they knew it wasle unverified? have you heard any concern at all about a counterintelligence operation that was being run by people who hated trump and liked clinton? >> sean: senator, we now have two sources that told the fbi and the doj, the rank andelon, not file. i always make that distinction.
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they deserve that distinction. there was a good protect us. but i am told in both cases that with the dossier, thatot ohr warned them it was unverified. hillary paid for it. steele hated trump. now also we have the emails before the first applicationls went in. it sounds like a premeditated conspiracy to commit fraud on a fisa court. i'm also hearing horowitz is done and it's devastating. any word that you are hearing? >> i can't verify if horowitz is done. i can't tell you what he found. i can tell you that if you care about the rule of law, you are going to be very upset about how the doj and the fbi behaved themselves during the 2016 election. if you hate trump, you won't care. if you love the rule of law, y you will be very upset. >> sean: senator, i will gladly endorse your re-election. the great state of south carolina, you've been doing a great job. thank you for doing this. you have been leading on all of us. i know you are going to
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continue with your promises to follow up.yo thank you for that. >> thank you. >> sean: all right, coming up, shouldn't surprise anyone, media are trying to cover up for their deep state friends. later, also, denver decriminalizing psychedelic hallucinogenic mushrooms. we sent lawrence jones to the liberal city. what we are going to show you shocks the conscious. what has happened to the mile high city is a disaster. ♪ since you're heading off to school, i got you this brita.
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♪ >> sean: as always, the establishment media mob finding themselves on the wrong side of every issue facing the country. after the a.g. barr announced durham would be investigating
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the origins of the russia investigation among other things, the media, they rushed to defend the deep state. of course, what do they care they spied on trump? what do they care they rigged hillary's investigation? what do they care they tried to bludgeon and beat up the president of the united states or lied to with hillary clinton lies? would they care about any of that? take a look. >> william barr's trump's hand picked defender as attorney general is operating as the president's personal hit man. >> it's a really chilling message. this is a completely unnecessary investigation. and it's just a way of harassing people who have done their job. >> we are living in really strange times when there is such daylight between the president and the intelligence communities. it is never good for our national security. the people, the professionals, the intelligence professionals working at the fbi or the cia are there as professionals. no matter how he chooses to characterize it.
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>> sean: after alabama passed a new abortion bill, the media wasted no time berating the state's decision. watch this. >> what keeps the republican party together is this fight about culture. >> this is the politicians of alabama saying we are not really expecting this to be law in alabama. we are expecting this to be law in the united states and this is just the first step. >> maybe we should make it a law that they should be all be required to get a vasectomy? [cheers] >> sean: here with reaction, "the hill"'s joe concha, fox news contributor lisa boothe. lisa, we begin with you tonight. >> hi, sean. >> sean: real simple question -- hi. real simple question. how is it possible that we have real good evidence that hillary committed a felony and she tried to cover it up and get rid of the evidence? then we have pretty big evidence that there was a premeditated fraud against fisa court judges to spy, yes, spy on the trump campaign. then we have other information of real spying. then we have information that they disseminated false
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russian information with hillary's dossier. then we see that they used the dossier to try and bludgeon a president to undo a duly elected president. why does the media not care about that story at all? >> because they don't like donald trump. they don't like president trump. that's why. and what we're seeing right now is this coordinated effort, or seemingly coordinated effort, between the left and the media to try to undermine attorney general barr. and the reason being is because if you poison the well, it mitigates the damning information that's going to come. we know it's going to be damning because we even knew before the mueller report that the fbi withheld critical information, that the fact that the dnc and hillary clinton were behind the funding of the dossier. now we know that the dossier was complete garbage because of the mueller report. there was no collusion. and even beyond that, the "new york times" recently admitted that the dossier could even be russian disinformation. yet it was used by the fbi multiple times to obtain fisa warrants.
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so what they know is that damning information is going to come and they are trying to undermine attorney general barr. >> sean: and it's interesting. i like barr's comments to pelosi tonight -- joe, you study the media. you have to watch that crap. i don't watch it. i can't really stand it. so but -- that was 99% pretty much of the media. 99.9. they all went down the conspiracy theory hoax, lying to their audience route for a very long time. and i don't see much introspection or correction on their part that they were wrong. >> of course not, sean. egos don't allow for apologies in these situations, that for two years we heard about russia collusion. we heard about stories always going in the same direction. you never saw democratic lawmakers and stories being wrong about them. it was always in the direction of trump, trump associates in terms of there is collusion. here is our story, here is the proof based on nefarious
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sources. bad sources. feeding information that reporters wanted to believe because they wanted this to be the next watergate, the next woodward and bernstein in taking down a president. they believed information that was fed to them that wasn't necessarily true. >> sean: they had a big story. what i'm describing is the biggest abuse of power corruption scandal in history. i would think somebody has an interest in a pulitzer. i would argue the people that are on our ensemble cast here deserve it, but i'm prejudiced. >> john solomon has been doing excellent work from "the hill" and sara carter on this show maybe this will pan out. >> sean: i'm pretty sure hell will freeze over. but go ahead. >> the old goal of journalism was to speak truth to power. to challenge power. i would think that many journalists would be embracing the fact that bill barr and john durham's efforts here in terms of looking in how the russia investigation actually happened. but now what we're going to
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see instead, i'm afraid, is that john durham's reputation is going to be attacked the same way bill barr's was and brett kavanaugh was. his reputation is unblemished but i don't think that will happen here. >> sean, can i make one more point as well? if you want to look at the culpability of the media, look at the fact that james comey knew that cnn was looking for a news source to publish the salacious information in christopher steele's dossier. he did a try private meeting with trump, that meeting leaked and it gave cnn and buzzfeed of the news hook to publish the dossier involved. the media has been completely culpable in pushing this completely narrative. >> and comey still getting town halls. which is remarkable. >> sean: i warned him, mr. jimbo, mr. super patriot, mr. virtue, you have the right to remain silent. i keep advising, you won't listen to me. thank you both. i appreciate it. when we come back the city of denver mile high, yes, they have decriminalized psychedelic and, yes,
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hallucinogenic magic mushrooms. we sent lawrence jones to see what they think of the radical change. we will take you to the streets of denver. you can't make this stuff up. by the way, also beto o'rourke actually live streamed his hair cut. fascinating video straight ahead. ♪ car. it turns out, they want me to start next month. she can stay with you to finish her senior year. things will be tight but, we can make this work. ♪ now... grandpa, what about your dream car? this is my dream now. principal we can help you plan for that .
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>> sean: first the state of colora ♪ >> sean: first the state of colorado voted to legalize recreational marijuana in 2012 and last week, citizens of the city of denver passed a measure to decriminalize the personal use and possession of psychedelic, and, yeah, that's the stuff that causes hallucinations known as magic mushrooms. we sent lawrence jones to denver to see what the folks
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out there thought about the city adopting a new radical policy and how this is all working out for them.. take a look. >> denver is the first city in the country to decriminalize magic mushrooms. >> right. >> you cool with that? >> i mean, i'm not completely opposed to it because i have seen a lot of things about depression and people getting over their depression through it and stuff like that. i know it brings the wrong crowd sometimes. >> decriminalizing drugs, okay. but it might have some consequences.s, m >> i'm okay with it. i think it's really silly though. i think our priorities are a little off. >> denver is the first city in the country to t decriminalize magic mushrooms. are you okay with that? >> i don't think i am, no. i'm okay with the marijuana. >> i mean, it's different than marijuana, but we're usually the first to legalize things like that. l >> you think a lot of people just going to come here just for that experience? >> i don't think anyone is going to come here to do mushrooms who is not already doing it. >> you can see how much ourdy
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population has grown just since the weed has been legalized, it has been kind of crazy. so i'm assuming the same thing will happen with the mushrooms. >> magic mushrooms. have you ever tried them before? >> yes. >> you have experimented with this before. >> back in my college years. >> never tried them. maybe one day. probably not, though. >> as far as like hallucinogenic trip, i liked it a lot better than acid. >> you are going to try it again. >> yeah, i would probably dip my toe back in that water. >> is denver getting a reputation for if you just want to get drugged up, this is the place to come? >> i absolutely think that, yes. >> will this be the city of zombies essentially? people walking around high all the time on mushrooms?en >> i hope not. >> in your backyard, man. straight up. y it's been done before. play some pink floyd and get down. you know what i'm saying?
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[laughter] >> sean: joining us with reaction, the author of "the case for trump," hoover senior fellow, ever so brilliant victor davis hanson. so lawrence went there and he had his bff tim, with them and literally they described to me it's like everybody is walking around like zombies. you know, i know a lot of people think that this is okay. recreational marijuana use, et cetera. it's the same as drinking people say. i don't agree with that. what are your thoughts? >> we're not a society that's known for not being permissive enough. so at this time and moment in our history, when we look at the use of drugs as a force multiplier of mental health problems or homelessness in seattle and los angeles, the idea that we need to encourage it, and that's what decriminalization and legalization does. it sends a message to young people that the state has no problem with it and they see that, whether it's right or not, as a green light. and more importantly, these are very powerful psycho
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active drugs. we don't know the long-term effects of them. we know from the progressive movement, which was at the forefront of warning us about smoking and changingf the entire culture to discourage smoking, i don't know why they don't apply those same standards to use of these equally dangerous drugs. this is a generation, sean, the millennials, they have a lot of problems, a 1.5 trillion dollars in debt. lowest fertility rate, prolonged adolescents come, delayed marriage. the last thing we need is to be encouraging drug use among this generation of youth. >> sean: there is a part of me that hasme very strong libertarian leanings. i don't want the government telling us to wear our seat belt or the nanny state or, you know, i believe in freedom. people want to make choices. as long as it doesn't impact me. but i do believe there is a gateway component to this. and i asked somebody that ii know once used these types of drugs, and what i was told
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was, it was more hallucinogenic, if you will, than acid which this person tried, which would scare the living daylights out of me. those people had bad trips would describe, like, seeing satan and jumping out of windows and, by the way, who if you talk about molly, ecstasy, acid, or any of these other drugs? >> well, i was a student in 1970s at university of california. and i can tell you one effect of these drugs, when you witness their usage, is it destroys initiative. it enhances mental health problems. and in our age and time, we know what the cartels are going to do with it, because both marijuana and psilocybin are common in mexico and widely used there, so we know the cartels are going to get in on it. i don't see the purpose of it, given all these social and cultural problems we are having right now with permissive drug use and the consequences
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it's having on young people who are not aware of the long-term effects or the results of drug cartels and drug trafficking, and you add homelessness into it, and you instability to treat people for mental health problems, it's insane.o it's the last thing we need to be doing right now. >> sean: always good to see thank you. when we come back, yes, a democratic presidential candidate with extremely low almost nonexistent poll numbers livestreaming himself getting a hair cut. wow. talk about narcissism. straight ahead, our villain of the day. ♪
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♪ the villain of the day. robert francis beto o'rourke. take a look. >> i started out with a great run with artemis. i went back home and then
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everyone in the house agreed it was time for a haircut. you're here at the best barbershop in el paso. >> sean: we will never be the destroy media mob. let not your heart be troubled. we just saw you on tucker's show. now you are becoming -- three hours of radio and tv.v. >> laura: they asked me to show up. my question to you is, why are you picking on poor robert francis? he should be in one of those saddles like a little boy haircut where you get on a saddle and you get the cap gun. my brothers would do that. you are being mean to him. >> sean: it was not a good experience to take him to get that haircut. >> laui