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everything was perfect. >> bret: thank you for your service? >> that's it for "special report." fair, balanced and still unafraid. "the story with martha maccallum" in normandy starts right now. >> martha: he's a remarkable man. we spent time with him. >> some will never return. embrace these, father, and receive them the heroic servants into their kingdom. oh, lord, give us faith in thee, in our sons and in each other and faith in our united crusade. >> martha: that was president trump reading the prayer that americans gathered around the radio to hear from president
roosevelt 75 years ago. he asked america to pray with him. i am martha maccallum and is this our "story" tonight live from the normandy american cemetery in france. we have an incredible line-up. [loud music playing]. 75 years ago tonight partroopers were beginning their trip across the channel in black darkness. one was tom rice. then he was 21. today he is 97. we were with him when he did that jump. our interview with tom is coming up shortly. you want to stick around for that. plus 2 brothers who were just children and paratroopers landed in their hometown and freed them from german occupation. [loud music playing]. they never forgot it. every day they give back to american soldiers in thanks. we had a wonderful conversation
with them. first the stunning d-day tribute in england, where royalty and veterans gathered to honor the pivotal moment of our world history. >> present arms! >> [gunfire]. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> the sacrifice of so many is being honored 75 years on. we must never forget. >> 75 years ago hundreds of thousand of young soldiers, sailors and airmen left these shores for the cause of frame. -- freemen. it's with humility and pleasure on behalf of the whole free world they say to you all, thank you. >> [applauding].
>> martha: remarkable flyover in england. bill bennett fox news contributor joins me now. you are the perfect person to talk about this. it's one o'clock in the morning here. i keep imagining what would have been happening here 75 years ago at this moment. the ground that we are on was occupied by germany at the time. across the channel the onslaught was getting ready. >> absolutely. if i could though, first, realizing where you are sitting. i have not realized where you would be. in 2007, there was a conference in england. you saw the president's great words today. but criticism from the american press and from political opponents. his words were great. in 2007 there was a conference.
the archbishop was there and colin powell was there. the archbishop said this iraq thing it's just is another effort to expand the american empire. powell responded the best thing he ever said: he said we have sent many young men and women abroad to fight for the freedom of others. the only land we asked for in return was land to bury those who were not able to return. that's where you are sitting tonight. a holy place. what was happening -- always wondered whether eisenhower was sleeping. there were many reports. the men were getting ready. some were waiting which is what one does in the military. this was the greatest naval assault in history. and there was no back-up plan. there had been a lot of discussion and some criticism of this. others wanted other things to be
done. this was the plan decided on and eisenhower said in his great american phrase, "okay, let's go." >> martha: indeed he did. what is interesting to note is that eisenhower had his own misgiveings at times or just the thought in his mind there was the possibility it might not work. he didn't share that with the men when he was building him up. on the planes they were reading his statement to them. this is what he wrote in a substitute letter he wrote and put it in a drawer. this is what they would have heard had tit failed:
>> your thoughts on that? >> yes. he did not say errors would have been made. i was misinformed, mistakes in communication took place. it will be my fault alone. my responsibility alone. he took responsibility, this great general and under-rated president. truly a great president and he was the responsible man. he was the man who gave the word. he knew the risk for the men who were going off that night. by the way, he was, later as we advanced into europe the concentration campus, eisenhower insisted on thousand of pictures of the camp. why so many? he said some people will deny this ever happened. people thought that was not possible that people would deny it. eisenhower knew it would be and it came to be.
it was an incredible moment. people had to be holding their breath. imagine the feeling for those guys in those landing craft as they approached. >> martha: i think one of the most powerful ways to think about the meaning of what we are looking at here 75 years is what the alternative would have been. what would the world be like today if this was not successful? if these people did not lay down their lives who are in the rows and rows of crosses behind me? >> yes, a lot of speculation. i think the best guess is that the war would have been prolonged. it's possible that then maybe germany from france we would have dropped nuclear bombs there instead of japan and russia would have swept through europe
and made it all russian property. the jews of europe might have been extinguished. the significance of this event can't be exaggerated. >> martha: many men -- go ahead. >> i was going to pick up on that. their last trip indeed. the next time we do this, 10 years, maybe none will be left. these great men, their bravery and sacrifice is unbelievable. not to take anything away from them, but when they are gone, there will be other men around and other women around from korea and vietnam and iraq and afghanistan. they don't get so many thanks and congratulations. those wars were not as much
approved. but their sacrifice, effort and courage every bit as nobel and every bit worth celebrating. there are a lot of great generations. we keep turning them out in this amazing country. >> martha: point well taken. thank you. one veteran is returning to normandy. 93-year-old navy jack gutman who came here from california. he's been documenting his entire trip with help from his son craig. . >> ♪ >> i have my tag all set. [inaudible]. i need the passport now to go back to france. 75 years ago i didn't need a passport. they let me right in without it.
>> [laughing]. >> we are looking forward to a great trip. my son and myself. i am excited. a little mixed emotions, but i will tell you what, i am going to have a good time. >> ♪ >> nice! we are finally on the plane ready to go. are you ready? >> [inaudible]. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> martha: jack is a special man. we got to know him. he reached the cemetery today. a place he had never been. he hasn't been back since he was here in the war. i spoke to jack and his son craig with a paratrooper named
george. those are the moving moments. you can see jack there earlier today. watch. >> today was mixed emotions. i met some wonderful people here. i did not know french people here. did they real appreciate what we did? all of a sudden i had people coming up and hugging me and wanting to meet me and take pictures with me. then i would -- it was like euphoria. it was so exciting. i got to love these people. they really care. then i went on to the gravesite walking through the graves. and the emotion took over. [voice breaking]. i kept thinking in my heart,
there are some men out there that i actually took care of and i saw die on the beach. i kept hearing the pleading and everything like that. it overtook me and i kind of broke down. when i was there, well, when i get there, i am going to salute them, pray for them, and i cried. i had to cry. i did all of those things i promised i will do. they will never be forgot as long as jack is alive. >> craig, what has this been like? >> a real honor. as long as i am live you and all veterans will never be forgotten. i am so honored to be here. when we got to the cemetery and
i saw my dad and the pain he was going through just in the remembrances, i got almost as emotional him. you can't just go to a person and take that grief away. i know he's done so much work and helped himself so much. this is just a great thing to be here with him for support. i think he will get some real closure. >> i am george. i was a 607th registration company. our job on d-day was to pick up the dead whoever was around us including paratroopers that landed in a channel and the parachutes came down on them and they drowned. there were dead bodies when we got there. everybody asks me what wave? there are a lot of waves.
i don't know what wave i was. i was a private and you do what you are told. that was my job every day. working every day with the bodies. 75,000 in 17 temporary cemeteries. until we got to germany, we had the last cemetery there and it was the end of the war. >> jack, tell me your role on d-day. which division you were with? >> we thought it would be a cake-walk. because we were coming in later in the day. it started early. we came 3 or 4 hours later. one of the problems is that unfortunately there was a horrible thing we came into. we saw the bodies laying around. my job was a medic to patch up the wounded and evacuate them.
it's very personal. it's a big problem. you have people needing you. you do the very best you can. i think basically one thing i worried about all the time: did i do enough? that laid on my heart for many, many years. >> george, you made this whole chapter of your life about remembering these stories and making movies about them and bringing veterans like jack back here to get closure and re-visit they lost here. what has it been like for you on the 75th anniversary? >> well, i have been working all year on this. i have done 5 documentaries. i talked to kids in schools about the high price of freedom. i saw the high price of freedom and so did he.
you see bodies every day your own age and all of the conditions they are. that's something you never forget. do i have nightmares? no, but i think about it a lot. i think about the young guys like i was, 18 to 20. some guys were 16. they lied about their age. they didn't get a chance to live their life. never had a girlfriend or a wife or kids like i have. i have lived almost 94 years old. >> jack when you look at the ribbon that says 75 years, can you believe it? >> it's gone by so fast. i will tell you. it's been -- it's been so exciting. i can't thank this man that contacted me and got me to come here because. all i knew was the beach. that little piece of beach. i have never seen all of this beauty they've got here in france and the people and how
warm they are and not only that, how appreciative. it changed my life. >> we love all of you guys. we are grateful for you for telling your stories to us and we hope to continue those stories so they are never forgoten. i love what you are doing with the history teachers to instill passion to teach our children about it. thank you very much. great heroes. our honor to talk to them. live coverage from normandy continues. the skies above france today one. paratroopers made this jump 75 years ago got up there again and did it again today at age 97. our exclusive interview with a man who got a lot of attention. tom rice moments after he landed. we were with him. that's coming up. and big news today out of washington. rising tensions in washington. members of the trump administration come face-to-face with leaders of mexico.
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they said there is a full-blown emergency. they released stunning numbers. 132,000 apprehensions in may alone. 30% bigger than april and double february and they produced this chart. look at the yellow line. look at apprehensions. this is a trend that is moving sharply higher in the fiscal year of 2019. significantly higher than the past 6 years. president trump in ireland saying this about the tariffs threat against mexico. >> mexico, the drugs and people that are coming in unchecked. they are coming up by the millions. mexico has to stop it or we won't be able to do business with them. it's a simple thing.
i think they will stop it. i think they want to make a deal. >> martha: the president has an issue. not all republicans are on board here. watch this. >> we are not a fan of tariffs. we hope this can be avoided. >> i am worried about the tariffs. i worry that the harm to our economy will be greater than the affect mexico. >> slapping a tax on everyone time it comes across in one direction could be very damaging. let's hope this doesn't happen. >> martha: you get the idea. joining me the author of the capitalist comeback, and austin, a professor and former president obama's chief economist. the president said he is sticking to his guns. people in his own party say they think this is a mistake.
>> you can't judge this as an economic move. this is a political move. we need to address the emergency at the border. if the republicans who are not siding with the president have a better solution, they should come up with it. something mass to be done. there is a dire emergency at the border. we have gone from a crisis to an emergency. nobody else is coming up with anything. the president feels he has to act. if congress won't support him there are not a lot of other choices. >> martha: that raises the question. we had so much back and forth, austin, is it a crisis or not? reporters at the white house said it was a manufactured crisis. now you have 132,000 apprehensions at the border. what would you do, austin? >> i would recommend the president pass a law. if you want to address immigration, then do something
that the majority of the american people support. don't start locking kids in cages. don't separate families and kid and deport the president. when the president took those approaches to immigration, he promised it would deter people from coming to the border. it did nothing of the sort. what you do not do is then go create an economic problem for u.s. manufacturing, which is to put a multi-hundred billion dollars tax on american workers and consumers to punish some other government. it's non-constitutional. it violates article 1 of the constitution. it belies the basic question: why can't the president just go pass a bill like the constitution outlines? >> martha: you could have asked the same question of all of the previous presidents. president bush and president obama. why doesn't the president just
pass a law? we know the reality why that distant happen. both sides are so dug in on the advantage this gives them politically. i think the american people are sick and tired of watching what is going on at the border. andy, perhaps this will push the mexican government to the table and insist they help block their southern border and their northern border so we don't have this influx that is unimaginable. is there a political solution? are we getting somewhere in these talks? >> the president doesn't pass a law. congress does and the democrats won't pass a law. there won't be a law. he is president of the united states. he has to act. he is acting and if you wonder whether this will work or not, the mexicans are at the table. they were in wadih el hage today. -- washington, d.c. today. hopefully this will bring a resolution to the emergency we
are impacted by at the border. long-term the solution should be legislation. both parties have to work together to accomplish that. and that's not going to happen before the election. >> martha: austin? >> well, i would say the reason the president can't get legislation pass side because 3/4 of the country disagree with the approach he is taking. they don't favor putting kids in cages. they don't favor separating children from parents. >> martha: austin, i understand that. >> [overlapping talking]. >> martha: i asked you the first time, what would you do? you said the president should pass a law. as andy explained is not how it worked. >> [overlapping talking]. >> martha: i just need one suggestion for you as to something else that is concrete to stop the influx at the border, specifically. >> okay, i can give you three.
let's start with financial aid to the enforcement community that they would allow asylum seekers to come in and apply according to u.s. law and that if they were granted asylum, then they would be allowed to come in legally. >> martha: we are out of time. >> overlight overweight. -- [overlapping talking]. >> where would they get the money from? >> martha: when we come back a democratic candidate is joining us. here to talk about d-day and more. we are live in normandy, france with fireworks. what we saw this evening when we came to this amazing special place. when we come back. mes to type 2 diabetes, are you thinking about your heart?
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solution for these dreamers is something that has had bipartisan support. it does have bipartisan support, but it continues to be blocked because of partisan reasons. the american people are sick and tired of this. it's time to get the job done. pass legislation and then continue to work towards comprehensive immigration reform we all agree needs to happen. >> martha: it would be great if that could happen over the next 18 months with common ground. i would love to give you a moment about the 75th anniversary of d-day. you served your country in iraq. what are your thoughts? >> it's so inspiring. it's inspiring hearing the stories of these heroes who served in world war ii. who dropped into normandy. who jumped off those boats and literally ran towards the fire. they are the epitome of what is means to put service above self,
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drowned in the fields flooded by germans. -- the first village they freed was a small town. in that town, lived a young french mother name simone. she made it her mission to watch over the original cemetery in her town and pay her gratitude to the young men who gave so much for her freedom. she wanted to send a message to their families back home and did that by planting flowers at their graves and sending photos to their parents over the years. i spoke to her 2 sons. >> back when i was like 4 or 5 years old, she was taking me to the graves and to lay flowers with her. so we did that quite often to be remembering that we had 3 cemeteries.
2 in town and one 2 miles from here. we had 13,000 soldiers. that was huge. the sadness of the families coming. it was a comfort for them to receive news and a photograph of the grave and some kind of flower or something which my mother was sending to these families. she wrote hundreds of letters to american families to bring them some comfort. it was like a religion for her. she devoted all of her time to doing that. >> did any of those families ever come here? >> yes, they did. >> mrs. morrow was living in arizona. her son was killed by a sniper 5 miles west of here. she came here. and spent a year and she was
going every day on these graves, reading a book to her son. >> why do you think your mother had such a special relationship with america and these american soldiers? >> my father was a soldier during world war i. he had been captured by germany in 1917. he knew what it was to have war. i think he was a real patriarch and loved his country and the sacrifice of all of these young guys who came from overseas. >> what do you think when you see the veterans come back year after year to see where their friends are buried now in the american cemetery? what is your feeling when you see them return? >> well, my father said my guess
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will they tried to find the place where they landed and the place where they had a friend who had been killed. this was very moving for me. >> martha: special men. when we come back. he jumped out of a plane on d-day. 75 years ago later doing it again. a world war ii paratrooper tom rice. >> the best way would to be show the individuals in the infantry they will never be forgotten. ♪ limu emu & doug mmm, exactly! liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. nice! but uh, what's up with your partner? oh! we just spend all day telling everyone how we customize car insurance because no two people are alike, so... limu gets a little confused when he sees another bird that looks exactly like him.
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>> this crowd and the miles of traffic that go along with it are here to watch the paratroopers as they come out of the sky to mark the 75th anniversary of june 5th, when the paratrooper dropped in the night before d-day. one of the main attractions is tom rice. tom is 97 years old. he has jumped every year for the past 6 years to remember those who were lost and to make sure that everyone remembers the sacrifice made on that day. tom is about to jump. we are ready. he will have an enormous american flag hanging around him making his seventh jump in the last 6 years. we will be watching. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> ♪
>> [cheering]. >> [laughing]. >> are you okay? >> [laughing]. >> you are okay. >> [laughing]. >> whew! >> [laughing]. >> [applauding]. >> a great jump. >> hey! >> sorry about the landing. >> oh, that's okay. >> [laughing]. >> nobody got hurt. >> whew! >> there you go, sir. >> [applauding]. >> [cheering]. >> it looked good. >> congratulations to the jump. >> thank you. it was a great jump. >> what was going through your mind as you were riding in the plane over the skies here? what were you thinking about? >> looking at the beautiful landscape. my body was in one place and my
mind was in another place. i didn't get them together until i left the aircraft. it was a beautiful fall at 128 miles per hour. it was a little cold too. >> was it? >> yeah. >> and talk to me about the first time you made that jump? did you think about that at all today? >> this is one of the closures for that jump. everything was repeated except this was a day light jump and the normandy jump in 1944 was night time. i didn't know where i was and i knew when i was here. we had the american flag flying below us. i could not see it. that was probably beautiful. i think it was the maximum size flight you could carry to be save. >> there were so many people watching you jump today. what do you think about the deep
interest in the 75th anniversary of normandy? what does it mean to you that so many people are here to honor you and grateful to you for the sacrifice you and so many others made? >> well, i represent the united states coming here. in a way this might be the conclusion for me or closure of all of the fame, shame and blame we all gathered together. you know? it's fantastic that so many people -- i can understand the attitude of hollywood people surrounded by millions of people like this. i really appreciate all of their love and kindness and their heart felt emotions. i will try to match that and will have a little bit of time to do it. there's been so much excitement and so many things going on
quickly. i am in suspended animation. i don't want to have a seizure. >> [laughing]. >> tom, we are going to let you go. i want to thank you so much. congratulations on your jump. this is the 7th jump have you done in the last 7 years? >> yes, that's right. seven. >> congratulations. thank you very much for all that you have done. >> you are quite welcome. i will keep on-going. i am not a dead man walking yet. >> far from it. thank you, tom. take care. >> [cheering]. >> martha: we should all be as with it and athletic as tom rice at age 97. he is going to keep going. i want to point the scene behind me and the flag placed by volunteers today. american and french flag side by side on every one of these white crosses. we'll be right back. (ding) hey, who are you?
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