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of august. his first television interview since baltimore. we will see you then. until then, have a great evening. tucker is up next. use of musical musical physical >> tucker: good evening and welcome to a special democratic debate addition of tucker carlson tonight. we told you in the past that democratic primary voters don't seem to have much of a choice this year. there are an awful lot of candidates in the race, but all of them seem to have identical far left positions on the issues that matter. you name it. until yesterday, that was our view, and then we watched last night's democratic debate. we will have to revise that assessment. it turns out that not everyone in the field is a lunatic. we stand corrected on that. in fact, there are a couple of sane ones. unfortunately, they are getting crushed. watch, for example, what happened when congressman ryan
tried to remind his democrats that most democrats don't support open borders. ryan suddenly became the most unpopular kid at the party. watch. >> now, in this discussion, we talked about taking private health insurance away from union members in the industrial midwest. we talked about decriminalizing the border. and we talked. i quite frankly, don't think that that is an agenda that we can move forward on and win. we've got to talk about the working class issues. the people who take a shower after work who haven't had a raise in 30 years. if we focus on that, we will win the election. >> your response, sir? >> not a lot of applause. in fact, dead silence. it turns the democrats in the room didn't want to talk about working class issues or people, as tim ryan put it, who take a shower after work.
progressives wrote those waters off as disgusting a long time ago. at the same time, they are deeply privileged. that goes without saying, they could be racist. every one of them. they have been excluded from the emerging al sharpton private equity coalition that defines the democratic party. as elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. the very idea that you have to win popular support for your policies seem to enrage them. warren, especially. at one point, they accused a cnn person as being a secret republican. first time that has ever happened. >> do not support medicare for
all. >> your question is a republican talking point. >> what you want to do instead is find republican talking points of a made up piece of some other part and say oh, we don't really have to do anythin anything. stop using republican talking points in order to talk with each other about health care. see one that really was the story of the whole night. elizabeth worn jumping up and down and barking at anyone who asks too many questions. not everything elizabeth says is wrong. we actually like her views about manufacturing and trade for example. holy smokes, is warren unbearable in a lot of ways. nasty as. watch how she treated john
delaney, who is one of the nicest men in politics. >> i think democrats win the one we run on real solutions, not impossible promises. when we run on things that are possible, not fairy tale economics. >> i don't know why anybody goes through all the trouble of running for the president of united states just to talk about what we shouldn't do and what we can't fight for. >> tucker: so, if you are not are read in the face dishonest demigod, like warren thinks you are. she twisted his pointed to something completely unrecognizable. >> you a sain immigration systm needs a sain leader.
>> laws matter, and it matters. who come here seeking asylum. that is not a crime. >> tucker: laws matter? elizabeth warren, yes of all people just said that. amazingly, nobody in the room pushed back against her saying that. there are a lot of weak men in the democratic party. it's one of the biggest problems actually. a normal candidate would have roasted her. laws matter? please. elizabeth warren's entire immigration program is based on the fact that laws don't matter at all. if laws matter, we wouldn't have illegal aliens living inside our borders.
if laws mattered, we wanted to have sanctuary cities. if laws mattered, democrats when it be sharing language guides telling illegals how to evade elizabeth warren, claiming the mantle of the law was the most incredible. there was nobody there to call on it. the moderates had all been gilded and silenced. she joins us tonight. yeah, thanks a lot for coming o on. you watched this and probably have the same reaction. it really seemed like orthodoxy and enforcement. they wanted to make sure that nobody else in the party could get to the moderate end of their position. do you think they seceded a question right >> i think that the hopeless plight of the so-called moderates was really shown last night. because the gravity of the party has shifted so far left. several of the people on stage
last night, amy clover char, you mentioned delaney, tim ryan but now, it has shifted so far to the left, that we are calling the moderates, conservative democrats. that's not how they describe themselves. but because warren and sanders decided to appease their alliance for now. that won't always last. we can talk about that in the moment. they decided to link arms. it was like red rover, red rover, sent delaney right over. what was interesting to me is i felt like even barack obama would have had a hard time in that crowd. when he would have been in a group that was trying to be intellectually honest, but it was a political loser for the moderates last night. >> tucker: do they know
something that we don't? based on the polling data that you are looking at, can you win a general election on the idea that we should decriminalize the border? and that we should give free health care to everyone who comes here? can you win the election on that? >> well, don't take that from me. tom friedman at "the new york times" ." claire mccaskill, former senator of missouri. all three of them. they have been sounding the alarm bells saying, wow democrats, tap the brakes. the revolution is not going to happen in 2020. they are desperately trying to get them to realize that if you actually want to win a general election, in your fantasy, the electoral college doesn't exist.
in reality, the electoral college exists, and it probably will for our lifetime, tucker. watch the democrats. they are going to start talking about structural changes so that they can win. we cannot win a general election against in a incumbent president who has a very good economy. they are begging them not to do this. now, tonight, joe biden is going to be have to be the one that figures the way forward for the moderates. i don't know if he can do it. >> tucker: at this point, can we call joe biden a moderate? i mean, he's temperamentally immoderate in that he's friendly. >> he's not for medicare for all. you will see a real strong contrast when they start to talk
about health care. he sain, look, obamacare is gre. one of the things that she tweeted is single-payer is actually medicare for all. a lot of conservatives say, yes. thank you. that's what we have been trying to explain to all along. i don't know if biden will be able to thread the needle. biden doesn't seem like he's got it all they are he really faltered in the debate and isn't doing that well. but democrats seem to like him. let's see how he does this week. but right now, i think a really interesting debate would be bernie sanders and warren up with biden. there's not many moderates left. >> tucker: dana, who will be watching tonight's debate so that you don't have to at home. >> i'll be here.
okay, bye-bye. see one well, the big star of last night's democratic debate wasn't a front runner. it was a spiritual guru, marianne williamson. williamson was the most searched person after the debate. it doesn't make sense if you are one of those linear types, but at least she must be motivated by some desire to take care of her fellow americans. she joins us tonight. who is this marianne williamson? who is this person? >> i did a lot of research. she has been known as oprah's spiritual advisor. she has also advised the clintons. steven tyler has credited her with helping him gets dominic get sober. she has made
"the new york times" best selling lists seven times. she says that it is not a religion, but a system of psychotherapy. this is not her first run eithe either. she ran for california's 33rd congressional district and lost. just a little information. >> tucker: that's a lot. >> it's a lot to take in, tucker. it's a lot to take in. >> tucker: does she have a condensed dominic conventional program? not that i'm a against her. >> she believes in reparations. she also wants i divert meant of peace i want you to listen to some of her highlights from last night. it will give you a little bit of sense of why she's making so much noise. >> and now it is time for a
generation of americans to rise up again for an economic system that has turned profits for a few corporations. everything that we are talking about tonight is once wrong with american politics. if you think any of this one guinness is going to deal with the stark psychic force that this president is bringing up is country, then i'm afraid that the democrats are going to see some very dark days. >> so it's a lot different than obviously what you are hearing from a lot of the candidates who are running for office. i think what's interesting, it's part of the reason why president trump drew so much attention. it was simply for the fact that he was so different than the 16 other candidates running for office. i think part of the reason why she's getting so much attention is all the democrats are basically saying similar things to each other page is really the only one that's standing there, speaking differently, and she is
very unique comparison to everyone else. >> tucker: has anyone criticized her or asked what a dark psychic force is? or all the other candidates pretending that she's not there? >> i think they are acting like she's not there. she also received criticism, because she had previously said that. she had taken a hit for that. i want to redo a couple of tweets. >> tucker: you are not allowed to think that or criticize the federal reserve, just so you know peers because she learned that the hard way. she was receiving a lot of criticism for that. i want to redo a tweet from donald trump jr., if we can put that on the screen. he says that people are going to think that i am trolling, but compared to the people on the stage, i think that marianne williamson is actually winning.
without a question, she has the biggest applause of the night. she really did seem to draw the biggest applause of the night. i also thought another tweet was interesting as well from national journals, josh. right now, tucker, she is really just pulling at 1%. the stakes rise. you've got to hit 2%. i believe it's a hundred 30,000 unique donors. there is a different variation of that. the stakes do get higher. she certainly going to have to reach those goals if she wants to be in the next set of debates. >> tucker: i suspect she's going got a whole bunch of sadock roles >> i don't know what's going on. i probably should be nicer. i don't know.
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she's got an academic mind. it's not surprising she's been able to discover countless new forms of racism permeating american life. terms of never heard of before. she listed them during the debate. >> we need to call out white supremacy for what it is. domestic terrorism. we live in a country now where the president is advancing environmental racism, economic racism, criminal justice racism, health care racism. >> tucker: well, she's a lot of fun. the question is, what is she talking about customer what is health care racism for example. what is environmental racism. i'm trying to be open-minded, but we are going to need some help figuring out what those ar are. thank you very much for coming on. >> good to be here again. so, you've been in and around politics in the civil rights
world for more than 50 years. what is health care racism? you have any idea customer >> as a veteran of the civil rights movement, i find her insulting, condescending, and patronizing. she acts as a barrier for the inspiration of real solutions for faces from baltimore and low income blacks. this is really harmful to any kind of discussion. as a veteran of the movement, i remember back in the 60s, i left that movement, because many of the blacks were sacrificed and suffered most did not benefit from the change. dr. king said, what good does it do to have the right to eat in a restaurant when you don't have the means to exercise it. the switch came when the money
arrived. that's why the biggest problem in black america today isn't between whites and blacks. it's internal. and elizabeth warren and people who continue to emphasize the external energy are preaching a false solution. black americans destiny has never been determined by what white people do or do not do. that's what we are left with. and so, i think that it deflects attention away from the real problems. and that is, the people who are supposed to be serving those communities. racism is not the most in formidable problem. the real problem is the kind of betrayal by the leaders of these cities in the last 50 years. the urban communities, where you have the highest crime, the most drug-infested, have been run by liberal black democrats for 50
years. we've spent $22 trillion in these places, and yet, the problems are getting worse. in 1914, they crammed over 4,000 blacks in. in the last 20 years, blacks have been driven out by gentrification. you don't see these leaders addressing economic issues like that, because they can avoid confronting those issues, because they use race as a shield. white people could all go to europe tomorrow, and the conditions of the inner city would not change. and not all blacks are suffering equally. there are three zip codes where the medium income is a hundred $70,000. they are three times richer than most whites. if racism was a pervasive
problem, then why are not all blacks suffering equally? i think it's time to stop this preoccupation with race and recalibrate and come together to address the problems of low income people of all races. >> tucker: you are a courageous man for saying that. you are a courageous man for saying that. most people can't say what you said and certainly can't say it as clearly and insightfully as you just did. thank you. >> they are traitors. they really are. they need to be called out for it. goldsmith, riordan. so, answers exist. we just need to pursue them. but we can't do it as long as we stay stuck on the race grievance issue. >> tucker: of course. it just divides people. but elizabeth warren benefits out of it. she got tenure out of it.
great to see you tonight. thank you very much. >> and thank you tucker. >> tucker: well, for months now, pete put a seems to be ven touch with a christian god and knows a lot about what god thinks about american politics. >> it's also important that we stop seeing religion used. i can't imagine it would be the one that sent the current president into the white house. he is lecturing other people on whether or not they are good enough christians. last night, he said republicans are basically going to hell, because they are not willing to raise the minimum wage. >> the men minimum wage. right now, in the senate are blocking a bill to raise the
minimum wage when scripture says that whoever oppresses the poor taunts. >> tucker: he joins us. thanks so much for coming on. so, here's pete buddha . he is lecturing everyone else and how they are not good enough christians because they are not voting for special legislation. >> i love mirror pizza. i'm from cleveland, ohio. i love that a marriage can . but you also have to have good ideas. that was just a very bad idea. because he's saying they are
just so-called christians. i would never call mirror pete a so-called christian. what is it mean to be a christian? let's be very clear. it's not whether you believe $15 an hour is the perfect amount of money for a minimum wage. why not make it 25. my stomach why not make it $25 or $10? he should know better than to take one scripture passage, pull it out, and say this is what it means to be a christian. let me tell you what it means to be a christian. this is not me judging anyone else. it's just the definition. it means that you believe that is divine and that he has a redemptive mission and that it can be for you. that's what it means to be a christian. >> tucker: someone should ask him. why doesn't someone ask him? people use to beat up on the christian right for being
sanctimonious. there's some truth to that. >> it let me tell you what's even more dangerous and why this one's not so smart. how about if someone ask another question what responsibility does a mother have two ununborn child whose about to be born? what scripture passage can you pull out to justify killing a baby that is being born? that's the problem with taking scripture out and saying so-called christians have got it wrong because they don't believe in my understanding of a very complex issue like minimum wage? the one we have invited him on the show repeatedly to have this conversation along these lines. tell us about your faith. what are the parameters? of course, he's too much of a coward to come on our show. but that invitation stays. >> i think he's a good guy. i think he is a smart guy.
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this democratic debate could be the last debate that we will ever see. that's what the democrats appear to think. the most eminent apocalypse while keeping a straight face. mayor buttigieg said that we have just 12 years to save this planet and the only way we can do it is by making him president. >> science tells us we have 12 years before we reach the horizon of catastrophe when it comes to our climate. >> tucker: to think of beto o'rourke as a slightly. that means he's even more worried. he says we don't even have ten years before the earth collapses paired watch. >> they are very clear. we don't have more than ten years to get this right. we won't meet that challenge
with half steps, half measures, or even half the country. >> tucker: a lot of scientists scientists. how many years have we got left? like most televangelists, the democratic candidates aren't letting the prophecies change their own behavior. that would be terrible. not just occasionally, but more than any other politician running for office right now. ha. but who can blame him? this week, countless celebrities are flying jets to italy for a google run seminar. the top item on the agenda. jonathan hunt has more on this amazing story. jonathan hunt. >> good evening, tucker. it's perhaps the most exclusive
on the planet. created by google cofounder. celebrities and people of influence to exchange ideas about the issues of the day. the agenda isn't public, so we don't know what they are talking about. it is designed for everyone to have a very good time. many on the guest list flew in on private jets. they parting partied on privath private jets. even president obama. although, the guest list is a closely guarded secret. we can't confirm the presence of anyone, other than the designer, diane. she posted on instagram.
the need for more women in the fields of engineering and science. other issues that might or might not be on the agenda are online privacy, politics, human rights, and the environment. at the world economic forum in switzerland earlier this year. another global gathering that also involves a lot of people flying a lot of private jets. there are a lot less yacht parties. it is landlocked. tough to sail a got there. tucker. the one jonathan. great report. thank you for that. young radicals in the age of
trump. he joins us tonight. robert, thanks a lot for coming on. so, i just want some perspective on this. it seems to me that if you charter a private plane for personal shadow to if you fly voluntarily on a private aircrat the right to talk about climate change. but then you won't take any, even the most basic personal steps. you won't sacrifice anything to live up to these ideals. it's pure virtue signaling. if you're going to have an interesting summit about discussing strategies or possibly reducing mankind's impact on the environment. they are lovely people, i'm sure. they are good actors. but you bring rich celebrities to events if they are parties. if they are to have fun. this is clearly what this is. these people should not be lecturing the rest of us.
it's always about the sacrifices of other people to make, often lower income and less fortunate people. the changes they should make to their lifestyle to save the planet or whatever that none of these people would even post to willing to make. >> tucker: it's a revelation that is aimed downward, at people below you. flying on a private jet, if you believe that carbon is forming, is one of the worst things that you can do isn't that true? >> robert: yet, no. it's absolutely true. the solutions preferred by climate activists, social justice activists, earl was either ridiculously far-reaching, like we are going to fundamentally revolutionize society.
dumb things that would inconvenience americans, but would make no difference to americans. i think about the plastic straws. they are actually like .001% in the ocean. most is from commercial fishermen. this isn't doing anything to protect the environment. >> tucker: it's a form of class warfare. , needless to say. pete buttigieg, lecturing me about climate change, but flying around the country in a jet? it's driving me nuts. good to see you. well, the new leaders of the new democratic party want to decriminalize the border crossing. what effect would that have on the border? what effect would that have on
♪ >> tucker: she told you at the top of the hour, there are a few, we are being honest, democratic candidates who conceive that decriminalize an illegal border crossing would destroy the country. the unprecedented, kind of nuts actually. >> congressman ryan, are they going to incentivize undocumented immigrants to come into the country illegally question my >> if you want to come into the country, you should at least ring the doorbell. >> tucker: of course, this is the 2019 democratic party. it was bernie sanders who got
the applause, while ryan got silence of scholarly and angry sounds. how dare you. so, the democrats retake the white house. it could happen. don't lie to yourself. decriminalizing immigration is going to be great for immigrants and people living in poor countries around the world. what will it mean for america? we are proud to have, stepping in for us. >> thank you, tucker. appreciate it. >> tucker: so, this is new idea. it's never been proposed. it's something that barack obama never would have said. >> thank you. >> and now it's a mainstream position among democratic candidates. a popular position. what would happen to the country if we enacted this into law question my >> i can answer that
quite easily, because obama's former dhs secretary said that this would be a catastrophic problem. that it would create an overburden on our system of government here. so, i take him at his word. obama knew what he was doing when he put him in that position. that's why i was his campaign director. he knew what he was doing. he was once labeled the dip order in cheap. we got a lot of slack for that, but he was upholding the laws of our country. honestly, my party, they are missing an opportunity here. because every credible poll shows that immigration is in the top three concerns for most american citizens in our country. we are just not doing -- the best i heard last night was casual mention that they were all for secure borders. how can you make it better? >> tucker: what do you think,
just spit falling off the top of your head. what do you think the constituency, the percentage of the american population is, that is forgiving free government paid for, taxpayer health care? home any or for that would you say? >> i would say it's in the single digits. she said, hey some of these sound like great ideas, but they will never pass congress. they just won't work. we need to be honest. i have all the respect for everyone who is up on that stage last night, but honestly, some of their proposal sounds to me like there were written for press releases rather than for policies. one of these people and probably one of the more radical ones, if i had to bet, would be elizabeth moran, kamala harris. they are going to be stuck with
these positions. can you win a general election promising free health care to the world? >> that comes back to election politics. they are talking about the primary. so i understand the pivot to the left to capture the hearts of our voters. but we'd also need to look past that. you can't just completely change of position come the general election. they are going to be some nuance changes, but you can't all of the site and on dime, change your position to be more electable to the general public. see robert, great to see you tonight. thank you for that. cnn spent more than two years, two of the longest years peered most of our lifetimes. obsessed with russia. last night, there was not a single question about russia.
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♪ >> tucker: wall, between 2016 and about 20 minutes ago, the cable news network had a single focus. russia. for two and a half years, every day revolved around finding the proof that donald trump teamed up with vladimir putin to make america. and then, suddenly, russia barely came up at all in the debates. not asking a single question about robert mueller's investigation. instead, don lamon asked presidents what they would do to
stop president trump's racism racism. >> how do you convince primary voters that you would be the best candidate to take on president trump and shield the racial divide. >> tucker: the chris plante show comeau what you should listen to. chris, i realized watching those clips that basically racism is just the new r word after russia. if the same story line. they've given up on russia. now they've moved to race. >> exactly right. the russia issue had to be pried from their cold, dead hands. every furled brow, chris, late at night, rubbing his chin.
the latest conspiracy theory. all of it turned out to be false. all of it went up in smoke. they put all of their eggs in this basket. the mueller report. the mueller testimony. all of it has blown up in their faces. it's like emily le tele, never mind. and now, the new conspiracy theory is racism. you talk about crime in baltimore, it's racist. it is just the new "r" word. what about what you've been telling us for the last two years? if you bring up fusion gps, they accuse you of peddling a conspiracy theory. now, they are just pretending
that it never happened. it's extraordinary. >> tucker: that is such a good point. if you took cnn at face value, literally. then we had a russian operation had hacked our democracy. how could they not be interested in that? how could they not follow up? i'm confused. >> extraordinary. there's not a lot of self-analysis going on. they've been humiliated by their own fraudulent reporting for a couple of years. maybe they just don't want to draw attention to it. maybe we just don't want to bring that up, because it kind of makes us look bad. certainly the candidates don't want to talk about russian collusion. they don't want to talk about mueller's testimony. cnn would, of course, look stupid, which is why they brought don out.
>> tucker: it does seem different under jeff. it does seem more political, dumber. the ratings are bad. >> they insist they are making more money than ever. they have some magic trick for making more money with lower ratings. the organization is a complete embarrassment. i was wondering whether we might be able to sue them for defamation of character or something. it's a disgrace to have to admit. i worked there for 17 years, and i was in the news business. look at the place now. it's a disgrace. don, i think is their finest journalist. he's the walter cronkite of his generation. his stomach he's a journalist extraordinaire. the whole thing is a tragic embarrassment. >> tucker: chris, it's great to see you tonight.
>> things a lot. >> tucker: that's it for tonight's debates. recap tomorrow, 8:00 p.m. have a great night. sean hannity is next. >> sean: all right, tucker. thank you. welcome to this breaking news debate edition. there are no moderates that are running for president in the socialist party. you are either more radical or less radical. the narrative from fake news, cnn about a politically diverse set of candidates. that's just the newest lie. they all support some version of this insane new green deal. they all support raising your taxes, and they all support government run universal health care. guess what, they want free heal