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what an economic week it has been. i'm jon scott in washington. i will see you again tomorrow night with on "the fox report." "the story," hosted by martha mccallum, starts right now. >> martha: good evening, jon. thank you very much. ♪ so president trump, like harry truman and andrew johnson before him, apparently has his eye on possibly purchasing the country of greenland. good evening, everybody. i'm martha mccallum and this is where "the story" begins tonight. here is greenland, rich in coal and uranium and diamonds and strategically located between north america and europe in the arctic ocean. has about 58,000 residents and it currently relies on denmark for two thirds of their budget revenue. not a new concept though as i said. harry truman offered 100 million in gold to purchase greenland back in 1946. in 1867 andrew johnson had his state department check into the idea as well. president trump says he is always looking at things with a developer's eye.
watch. >> there is something about the real estate world that's incredible. you just love it. it's in your blood. it's in your blood. even as president, that's why i tell you even as president i ride down those streets and i say wow, is that place nice. wow, what could you do with that? look at that site. wait a minute, to identify deal with china. forget about this stuff. [laughter] >> martha: the idea not going over so well as you might imagine with some folks in greenland. >> it doesn't feel like he understands like the reality and stupid. >> he could buys anything, i guess. this is what he think he can. but you can't. sorry. i mean it's the people. it's the country. it's a culture. >> martha: so the foreign minister has made her feelings on the matter perfectly clear. we are open for business, but we are not for sale.
so this all started with the "wall street journal" report that the president of the united states is talking to aides and allies about the u.s. potentially making this venture. is he feeling out what this think about it. brought it up various times. certain levels 6 seriousness. has asked white house staffers to look into the idea. see what it's all about. the story quickly took off and tweets like this showing a gold trump tower sprouting up on the greenland coast line getting attention today. here now to talk about it michael knowles of the daily wire. host of the michael knowles show and michael, former campaign director for president obama. good to have both of you with us. thank you for being here tonight. so, robin, it's been approached before strategically. it's an interesting area for the united states. it's sort of the mirror, kind of, of alaska on the other side with channels through the artic ocean. is this a crazy idea? >> look, geo strategically, this could be a great idea if it were for sale.
but, they have made it perfectly clear that it's not like you just said in the lead in to this segment. i think that honestly this is a great distraction. and the president is just fantastic at doing this. we saw a lot of tweets from him yesterday about the economy, reassuring us with that i know verted yield curve that everything is going smooth. and, you know, we had that leaked executive order proposing the internet. i don't think that's going anywhere. this is a fantastic distraction. look, it's our lead story tonight. we are talking about something that probably won't happen. if it did, i think it probably would be great for us. like i said, geo strategically, especially with the uranium resources, martha. >> martha: yeah. it's interesting. because during this discussion and the report, it talks about how there was discussion that denmark was having some financial trouble over its steangs to greenland. and that was sort of what prompted kind of this initial conversation and there was the discussion that it had been tried before. here is secretary mike pompeo back on may 6th in
finland. watch this. >> the artic is at the forefront of opportunity and abundance. it houses 13% of the world's undiscovered oil, 30% of its undiscovered gas. and an abundance of uranium, rare minerals, gold diamonds and millions of square miles of untapped resources. >> martha: so, michael, how serious do you think this idea might be? >> it's quite serious, actually. i mean, that's the thing about land is that god isn't making any more of it, it's usually a good investment. real estate has paid off well for the united states, the louisiana purchase. the anne annexation of texas, california. another thing that mike pompeo pointed out if the dire warnings about global warming do come true, you could be looking at new trading routes being opened up through the artic, this could be in his words the sue he see or panama canal of the 21st century. i do think it's a serious thing to mention. obviously we tried to buy it
in 1946 for $100 million. the price might be going up. i don't think it's totally off of the table. from a geo strategic point of view, i think it's totally worth bringing up. to the question of whether or not donald trump is merely distracting. it is true that donald trump is the king of controlling the media narrative. he has this knack of bringing up actually serious concepts. and because he is the one who is bringing it up, people dismiss it out of hand. i think it's a brilliant idea. i think we should look forward to it. if denmark says it's not for sale, that sounds like the beginning of a real negotiation. perhaps we will actually see the art of the deal. >> martha: well, it's possible. and it's interesting to note, also, that china wanted to build three airport facilities, you know, there and that was sort of shut down by the united states. so there are definitely, russia, china, the united states are all expressing some interest in this part of the world. and i think whenever that is happening, you have to sort of look at it at least with. >> anna: lit particular serious eye in terms of the strategic implications of it. and if it's true that denmark is having some
financial difficulties with their commitment to greenland, that also is an open question as well. but i also think that they are interested in -- i think this is good for greenland, robin because today and yesterday, everybody is googling greenland and looking at it and looking at pictures of greenland. it strikes me that everybody has been going to iceland, right? iceland is like the tourist capital of the world. everybody you go you see pictures of themselves in the blue lagoon more than 2 million tourists went to iceland in the most recent tourism calendar which i think is 2017. everybody wants to go there. green land looks at that. they have got only 84,000 people coming to greenland, like maybe this is all good for them. >> and it will be interesting, martha, to see exactly how this works with president trump's visit to denmark next month to see how far he gets with these conversations. and, yeah, i think it's probably good for their tourism. on one hand, you know, make light of the conversation. i almost wish that he would
propose to buy the maldives because i sure could use a vacation. but, you know, i don't think these are harmful discussions. it's definitely out of left field. i just know that, you know, if you look at our national debt, divided up per cap tax we are looking at over $65,000 per person. i don't think it's necessarily the right time to be investing in this when we saddled with debt. >> martha: thank you very much. michael knowles and robert. good to see you tonight. >> good to see you. thank you. >> martha: coming up, president trump keeps fanning the feud with the squad which has now extended to israel. one member is keeping her attacks really centered here at home. >> trump relied on a coalition and a core part of that coalition were racist. >> martha: my next guest says the divisive rhetoric has to stop. the republicans launching a congressional challenge against alexandria ocasio-cortez next. the first survivor of alzheimer's disease
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>> they are very anti-jewish and they are very anti-israel. i think it's disgraceful the things they've said. have you lists of -- this isn't just a one line mistake. what they have said about israel and jewish people is a horrible thing. and they have become the face of the democrat party. >> martha: president trump continuing to stoke that fire keeping his feud against the so-called squad alive. pushing them really front and center, telling israel not to let them visit and painting them and the controversies that surround them as the face of the democratic party, which they probably would rather not necessarily have these folks as the face of the party, necessarily. nancy pelosi has had her issues with them over time. now alexandria ocasio-cortez is playing right into it. she says there is a section
of the trump base which is, in her words, racist. watch. >> trump relied on a coalition and a core part of that coalition were racist. >> yeah. >> building a coalition with all sorts of other people that could be susceptible to racist views if they were blanketed and layered and made people feel good about it not being a racist thing. >> right. >> so there are a lot of people that support trump that genuinely don't believe that they're racist. because we do not talk about or educate people on recognizing racism. >> martha: here now republican congressional candidate for new york 14. she will challenge alexandria ocasio-cortez for that seat in 20206789 cherie, thank you for being here tonight. >> you are welcome. >> what goes through your mind when she is labeling people who voted for president trump. >> we heard this rhetoric before, right? we heard it from hillary clinton when she called
donald trump supporters deplorables and we are hearing it again. and quite frankly this type of rhetoric is divisive. it's deplorable and it's an insult to people like myself who do support our president in this great nation. >> martha: tell everybody a little bit about yourself and your background and what you feel are your qualifications to take over for her. >> so, yes. thank you. i migrated to this great nation when i was 9 years old. i certainly know what it takes to work hard. caribbean families throughout this country knows what it is to work hard. i'm taking her on because of her detrimental policies. we see the 93 trillion-dollar green new deal that's going to take money out of pocketbooks of constituents in ny-14 queens and the bronx. the job killing amazon deal that she killed here in new york state taking away some 25,000 jobs and then we hear the rhetoric on the national stage, martha. it is appalling. our kids are watching. the next generation is
watching. it's dangerous for us to continue this type of rhetoric on the national level. >> so the president has been tweeting about in this evening. answered says like it or not, tlaib and omar are fast becoming the fails of the democratic party. cortez, aoc is fuming and not happy about this. what do you think about that. >> the interior minister, i think h a good points also in terms of the grandstanding that we have seen and the back and forth of the invitation to israel and the declination of the invitation to israel a. and so seeing your grand mom is certainly hard felt. what we see now the declination seems to be surpassing the love for your grandma and your hate for israel and your hate, disdain for people who love this great nation and support the relationship that america has with israel. >> martha: what do you think your chances are in your district? it's a very democrat district, has been since, i think, the 50's primarily, and her favorability numbers
52%. that's a siena college poll of new york registered voters in april of this year so she doesn't seem like she is in too much trouble. >> a recent poll also indicated that donors to her campaign spanned a great number of. local donations to her campaign were among some ten donors. she is not very much liked in the district. she is not supported in the district. the rhetoric that she spewed is dangerous to the constituents of the district and it's time that we have someone that will unite the fight in washington, d.c., that will build bridges versus burning them down, martha. it's important that we have people running for office that can speak to uniting the policies in washington, d.c. and working with our president. steve: sherrscherie murray thank you very much. running in a democratic district for a long time. >> good to see you. >> martha: here with more on this topic is guy benson and
donna brazile former chair of the democratic national committee. both are fox news contributors. great to see you both tonight. the president is fired up tonight. is he tweeting a lot this evening on this friday night from his vacation spot in new jersey hes is says israel was very respective and nice to rasheda tlaib allowing her permission to visit her grandmother as soon as she was granted permission she loudly proclaimed she would not visit israel. could this possibly have been a setup? israel acted appropriately. >> he is making a good point. rasheda tlaib gave away the game. she and ilhan omar came out and said we really want to go on this fact finding trip to their itinerary said palestine. they were not interested in meeting with any members of the netanyahu government or the opposition think were going to be vetted and sponsored by a very radical organization that was bringing them and, of course we know their background with bds fundamentally
anti-semitic the israelis said no you are not welcome here. tlaib then tried to make it about her grandmother. she is getting very old. i may never have a chance to see her again. israel said that's fine keep your bds stuff at home. come see your grandmother. permission granted she said oh wait, never mind, let me dump on israel for a new reason. it's very cynical and very transparent. she used her own grandma and the love for her grandmother as a political pawn to attack the country that she hates and i think that speaks for itself. >> martha: not a great look. donna, what do you think? >> i think it entire conversation is really sad. sad for several reasons. one as a strong supporter of israel, i have been there several times. to hear leaders from ape a aipac. adl saying israel is a democracy, they can take on people who disagree with them it's a mistake to target members of congress because of their views or
their viewts. i think it was a mistake initially for the president to even tweet that they should not be allowed to go to israel i have faith in israel's ability to listen to two members of the united states congress. so i think it's been a huge mistake i hope we can end the tweets tonight and get back to something more healing and more relevant to all of us. >> martha: tlaib said, guy, she said basically she had been treated like a criminal. and israel said they felt that the itinerary made it clear that they, as you said, wanted to go to palestine. they didn't reach out to meet with any members of the israeli government or even the opposition in israel. you know, it seems to me like they could have struck some kind of deal and said we see your itinerary. we are happy for you to come, but we also want you to make sure that you see this and this and this in israel so that we can share our side of the story with you. that never happened. >> no, it didn't. and i made the case yesterday and again today, i
felt like israel was 100 percent within its rights to deny entry to these two ladies. but i felt like it was a strategic mistake on israel's part. they could have projected more confidence and openness. after all the new information that we have i actually still think it's a strategic mistake but maybe for a different reason. they're the gang that can't shoot straight, omar and tlaib. she has completely embarrassed herself with this grandmother episode. imagine how much damage she would do to her own cause on israeli soil with the bright lights on her. they might welcome them in and say do your very best. >> martha: interesting point. >> we will push back with the facts and you will humiliate yourself yet again. >> martha: donna, i want to ask you a question before i let did you go about this piece that came out today that says that president obama said something along the lines to joe biden of, you know, you don't have to do, this joe. what is your take on this story? it sounds an awful lot like president obama was trying
programs to discourage him not to run. is that the way you see it? >> well, i was trying to read in between the lines and i just had to read it out loud to myself a couple of times. what the president was trying to say to his vice president. there are other leaders in the democratic party that can take on and defeat donald trump. you don't have to do this out of trying to save the country which, of course, that is vice president biden's real desire he wants to help save and heal this country. i think the president was trying to say there are other people inside the party who can do the job that's how i read it. >> martha: dave axelrod has not been very supportive of vice president biden's run and this sounds this may add to that pile of sentiment from the former administration. we will see. thank you very much, donna. good to see you tonight. guy, always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: so tonight the autopsy results are complete. but the investigation in to jeffrey epstein's death may be just beginning.
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findings. at some point we may get that. so far all the medical examiner is saying that jeffrey epstein died by suicide by hanging. the marks on epstein's neck looked like those from fabric which ties that he tied a bed sheet around his neck and secured it to the top bunch which is about 5 and a half feet off the ground. there are reports that epstein was found nealg forward as if he lunged forward similar to the way robin williams killed himself a few years ago in california. we don't know if williams broke his hyoid bone near hiadam's apple. it's not a enough force to break the hyoid. and they add just because he was found on his knees doesn't necessarily mean he did not throw himself off the top bunk or roll himself off. needless to say this report has not satisfied critics who called this the perfect suicidal storm. remember, is he praised on
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ambassador khalilzad who is working on this agreement on the afghanistan side. what do you think came out of this. >> well, martha, here is the bottom line, i think the president has done a great job rebuilding the military, his frustration is understandable with 19 years of this effort. and we all want peace. in fact, today is the 10th anniversary of sergeant brian woods -- one of my green berets that i lost in afghanistan. here are my concerns and senator graham and others like liz cheney in the house. number one, half the world's taste organizations still exist there and can attack the united states. if you believe the taliban promises which i i don't. how can they guarantee to keep a lid on these group and 300,000 afghan army. number the two first to pull out, my understanding, will be the advisors. the advisors with our army strategy. we have been advising the
korea army for 70 years. i would rather use their soldiers than our soldiers. the final piece that a lot of people aren't talking about right next door to afghanistan is pakistan with seven times the population potential of loose nukes. if afghanistan devolves into chaos pakistan will go with it. my message would be mr. president please do not be to afghanistan, please, what president obama was to iraq. a no deal is better than a bad deal. let's fight these wars in places like kabul. it will follow us home. i do not want to lose americans fighting their way back in and the reason we haven't had enough intern inteersan bernardino. i pray he does launch his national security with that message. >> martha: how many people would you leave there and then i have got to go. congressman waltz, how many people would you leave in
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wall street. and as we told you yesterday, some analysts are now predicting that an economic recession could lead to president trump's downfall in the election in 2020. there are even reports that his own folks are concerned about that at this point. but my next guest argues the opposite. she says that despite what have you heard this week the economic sky is not falling. she also says this today. let us not let left wing media talk us into a recession. make no mistake they are eager to do so, she writes. here now liz peek. now a fox news contributor. great to have you on "the story." great to have you here tonight. we talked about this a bit last night on the show. there were some critics saying it's not true, that, you know, people out there are not giddy about the possibility that this could be kind of a ding in the armor for president trump as he heads into 20206789 what do you say about that? >> i think the reporting has been very one-sided, martha.
every bad thing that happens is exaggerated and you hear less and less about the good things that are happening. you don't hear about productivity increasing for the first time in a decade or wages rising at over 4, 4.5%. those things are very encouraging. look, let's connect the dots here, president trump was elected and immediately consumer and business sentiments went through the roof. heights we had not seen in a decade. what does that mean? it means consumers start to spend and businesses start to invest. the liberal media knows very well if they can shake consumer confidence. make people begin to doubt this recovery has legs, people will begin to retrench. the good news is we just had really excellent consumer spending numbers and frankly i was very cheered by walmart. walmart had the best comp store sales in 10 years. whatever they are saying out there on the media, people just aren't buying it. instead they are going to the stores and buying what they want.
>> martha: you know, do you point in the piece that you wrote to some potential weaknesses. >> sure. >> martha: manufacturing has slowed a little bit. where would be the areas that you would be watching in terrence that there might be recession around the corner, eventually? >> well, i think we have already seen a slow down in manufacturing, i think, is attributable in part to the trade spat with china. businesses are less confident. i mean, some of the confidence that the president encouraged via tax cuts and deregulation, we have seen a reversal of that because they really don't know what's going to happen in china. i really hope for a trade truce because i think that puts those issues behind us. and by the way, businesses are scurrying around repositioning their supply chains to avoid problems there. but that clearly has hurt the economy. another area though i think of interest is the whole home building sector which is not doing very well. that's something that i think will start to come back. maybe in the second half.
but probably next year. mortgage rates are incredibly low and we need housing. the problem right now is that house prices are high and inventory is low. i have think if you begin to see that very large sector of the economy participating, you know, we might -- you might see a pretty surprising number next year on g.d.p. >> martha: liz peek we always like it read your pieces and see you on the fox business channel. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> martha: next up, what do you do when you are vegan and you can't eat corn dogs at the state fair and you are running for president? our ladies night panel details on what cory booker found on what was good for him to eat at the iowa state fair ♪ ♪
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>> martha: so you know presidential candidates are known for chowing down at the iowa state fair. they go there to eat the corps dogs. they eat the giant turkey leg. what you do when you are a devout vegan like senator cory booker. he scouted around so enshoes as stick about this peanut butter and jelly. give me another one. telling reporters i would love to have a pb and j on a stick eating contest. i feel like i could take the field.
gillibrand might give me a run for my money he said. i don't know how to respond to that here for ladies night lisa booth and cheryl casone making her first appearance on ladies night we are thrilled to have her with us and jessica tarlov. let me ask you on that very enthusiastic picture of cory booker eating five peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. to me there is nothing better. i don't need it fried. >> no you don't because you also have a turkey leg option. he has very little to work with. in scotland they like to fry a lot of things like mars bars and oreos and things like that. i'm an enthusiast as well. i think it's great. his campaign is not doing as well as maybe he would have liked. they are making a fun moment, a light moment getting to know the audience. i'm actually just dead surprised that they have such a thing at the iowa state fair whe andrew yang ate 18 turkey legs. he says i like a lot of renaissance fairs. these where he warmed up.
>> martha: that's another question. cory booker says eggs do not align with his spirit. suddenly eating those eggs for me did not align with my spirit. i could feel it. i made the decision that i was going to become vegan. he looks very healthy. cheryl. >> i think he is doing something right. >> for the first six months of this year i went plant based to see what it felt like. i actually felt great. but you end up eating a lot of french fries it can go the other direction. tulsi gabbard eats plant based and she isn't eating anything fried. she is actually eating vegetables and fruits and things like that. i have got to hand it to him. it is hard to stay vegan. and even here in new york city where there are a lot of healthy options i found it very difficult. >> martha: i bet. i went to the kentucky state fair and eight a bourbon it was a glazed doughnut with a cheeseburger inside. and let me tell you it was delicious. >> how could that not be good. >> martha: here is president trump eating his pork on a stick, lisa. he doesn't usually do this
stuff. i think he was like all right. give me the pork on a stick. >> i'm sure it was delicious. you can pretty much fry anything and it tastes good, right? they also fried oreos which are phenomenon. >> fried twinkies. >> fry anything and it tastes delicious. i don't care if is he vegan. i don't have an issue with that is he taking aim at meat eaters in veg news and said the earth cannot sustain meat so he can go ahead and be a vegan just don't tread on me if i want to eat my bacon and my steak. >> don't mess with liz is a don't take away my bacon. >> only 5% of americans are vegan fyi. >> martha: because it's really hard. >> there is beyond burger and impossible burger. >> i like those. >> martha: i don't mind a fake burger. all those vegetables bum me out after a while. [laughter] >> martha: exactly. all right. totally different topic now that i want to get to you with you there was a "new york post" op-ed titled it's
masculinity to the rescue. and it looked at all of the instances that we have watched with horror over the next months, years, essentially. also some of these recent shootings and talked about the men who swept in as heroes. and it sort of juxtaposes that whole idea with the toxic masculinity argument and beating up on men in a number of ways. she writes this is a noble side of masculinity that we once would perpetuate in folklore and stories passed down from father to son about what it means to be a real man but in the new era of toxic masculinity young men are taught to ignore their heroic instincts and learned to be weak. instructed to always be on guard against the monster within. lisa? >> i don't like this societal animus against men. i have three brothers. i have an awesome dad. i have had so many awesome male mentors in the workplace. sometimes women can be vicious. i don't understand why there
is this concept somehow that men aren't noble, that men aren't good and somehow women are more noble and better people, it just doesn't hold water. so i don't understand that. but i do appreciate the fact that we should be raising up good men and also talking about them. and particularly some of these individuals that she mentioned in her column. she talked about david johnson and el paso grand daughter and wife. also talked about reilly howell who stopped -- or helped stop a class shooting and charged the shooter. we should be talking about people and praises the heroes. >> martha: absolutely. >> yeah, but in her piece she didn't mention the young mother who put herself in front of her 2-month-old's baby and saved her baby's life. she didn't mention the fact that it is men perpetrating these terrible crimes. that's a totally missing element here. >> martha: gender both sides is -- heroism is heroism and evil is evil. whether men or women are carrying it out, i like to see heroism recognized and it does feel like sometimes
that is sort of stepped over a little bit in favor of more stories about the men who are pulling the trigger. >> i will add what we are seeing in corporate america, especially since the me too movement over the last couple of years, men now are in the board room are afraid interact with female counterparts that can be a bad thing for female executives trying to climb the corporate ladder. >> that's a cop out. i think that's an easy way out and i think they need to toughen up and know if they are behaving correctly they have nothing to fear. but we have got to go. ladies thank you very much. good to see you all. happy weekend. coming up next here tonight amazing story of world war ii's forgotten invasion from one of the many unsung heroes who fought in operation dragoon. ♪
of operation dragoon often called the forgotten invasion of world war ii. the mission was meant to coincide with d-day but it was delayed due to lack of resources. two months later, 250,000 french and miles per hour troops landed on the french riviera, joining forces the operation overlord and helping to liberate most of southern france in four weeks. my >> guest: was part of the mission, flying in nazi occupied land in august of 1944. and he has an incredible story about making it out alive. world war ii paratrooper rolland. he also served in the battle of the bulge of the 551st infantry. thank you for being with me tonight. tell me a little bit about the mission and what it was like when you landed in the middle of the day there. >> it was kind of surprising
in that we were one of the few to make daylight jumps. most paratroop drops were done in darkness before a dawn if possible. it was our actual jump and landing and assembling on the ground was uneventful because there were no enemy troops firing at us. thank goodness. >> martha: thank goodness. you say the first time you flew out of an airplane you jumped out of it. why did you volunteer to be a paratrooper? >> because i was wondering if i could deal with jumping out of an airplane. but i had been afraid of heights before that.
but it's different jumping out of an airplane. when you are standing on something solid that is attached to the surface that you are headed for, it's different. up in the air there is just space. it seems. you go out and it's kind of great. >> tucker: that tells me a lot. >> i thought parachute warfare, or the use of parachutes to get troops in to a strategic position was very clever. i thought i great idea. i wondering if i could do it. >> tucker: and you could. you did it well and you made your country proud. tell me how you -- you were in the battle of the bulge. >> yes. >> martha: it was so cold
that your feet froze. >> right. >> martha: how did it play out for you? >> well, that was a stopping point during that battle. the first sergeant said are there any of you who want to get some dry socks and warm yourselves? get on this truck and it will take you back to a battalion aid station. there were several of us who were in the same condition. i was one of the volunteers that got on the truck. we went back to the battalion aid station. and the medical officer for the battalion got on the truck and he went down one side and up the other, asking what is your problem? and we were all talking about frozen feet. he said it was like walking on
bowling balls. he didn't take any of us off that truck. he just directed the driver and the next thing we knew we were at a hospital in belgium. that was the last combat that i actually saw. >> tucker: just a few second left, sir. what does it mean to you see this moment, the 75th anniversary all the years ago and be alive to witness this? >> i'm thankful that i can be here. among family and friends and a lot of good people. like you. >> tucker: well, you as well, sir. >> martha: thank you so much for sharing your story with us tonight. we thank you for your incredible service to this country and for sharing your stories with us. we are grateful. thank you be.
well. >> thank you. >> martha: that the "the story" of friday, august 16. but "the story with martha" goes on. we'll see you monday at 7:00. have a fantastic weekend, everybody. good night. ♪ good evening, everybody. welcome to a live special inside the issues edition of "tucker carlson tonight." i'm obviously not tucker. i'm tammy bruce filling in for the fabulous man during his fishing vacation. i hope he is having a great time. it's an honor to fill in for him this evening and be with you on friday. the full autopsy of jeffrey epstein has been released. does it bring us any closer to solving the mystery if it is a mystery of his death? giving us insight, the medical contributor, dr. marc siegel joining us. >> good to see you. >> the worldwide speculation considering the nature of what had gone on, the f