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on a platform of endless foreign aid or perhaps more aggressive military intervention. see how far that gets you. that's all the time we have tonight. shannon bream and the fabulous "fox news @ night" team take it from here. have a great weekend. >> shannon: this is a fox news alert. president trump granting full pardons to two army officers accused of war crimes and restoring rank to demoted navy seal eddie gallagher. maritimes reporting tonight in the same breath. the president's moves saying they are unprecedented. breaking tonight, the end of day two of the public impeachment hearings, house speaker nancy pelosi claiming the commander in chief is what she calls an imposter. brand-new controversy over repeated showdowns between the only republican woman on the house intel committee and the chair. "night court" suspending the case of miles garrett suspended
indefinitely for ripping the helmet off of the steelers quarterback and hitting him with it. you will hear the arguments you will decide. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i am shannon bream in washington. we begin with the president's executive action for three military men, one of whom was serving a 19 year sentence for murder. kevin corke is live with the story. >> major moves by the president, granting reprieves to military officers accused of or convicted of war crimes, overruling military leaders who had sought to punish them. they are first lieutenant clint lawrence, chief petty officer eddie gallagher. clint lawrence will be set free from fort leavenworth as soon as today, six years after being found guilty of first-degree murder. he was serving a 19 year sentence for ordering his soldiers to fire on and killed three men in afghanistan. nine members of his unit testified against him saying
that the men were innocent. now to the former green berets and silver star recipient, major matt goldstein. he will have the murder charge he has been facing dropped. he admitted to fox news' bret baier that he killed a taliban bomb are suspected of killing several marines in a 2011 battle. goldstein has maintained he was justified in what he did and he explain why in a fox news documentary from 2016. take a listen. >> at the time, you think this is the guy? >> absolutely. >> the suspected bomb maker refused to speak to investigators because of strict rules of engagement. they were ordered to release him. >> there's limits on how long you can hold guys. >> that was with bret baier. also this, navy seal chief eddie gallagher will have his rank restored to chief petty officer. he was dr. pay grade after being
convicted of posing for a photo with the dead isis fighter. gallagher had been acquitted of murdering a wounded isis detainee. the white house issuing a statement that reads in part "for more than 200 years, presidents have had -- use their authority to offer second chances to deserving individuals including those in uniform who have served our country. these actions are in keeping with this long history. as the president has stated, when our soldiers have to fight for country, i want to give them the confidence to fight." in a statement tonight, gallagher said "there are no words to describe how grateful my family and i are to our president, donald j. trump for his intervention and decision. we would like to think the american people for their unwavering support during this very difficult time for my family and i. that emotional outpouring and big news tonight.
>> shannon: breaking news, we are glad you're with us. the process of impeachment colliding with the 21st century reality of social media. the democrats second public hearing aimed at removing president trump. gillian turner gets us up to speed on the days moments. >> good evening. president trump didn't attend the house intelligence hearing today obviously but he was definitely there in spirit. midway through the afternoon session, he got into it with the witness, ambassador marie yovanovitch, on twitter. intelligent chairman adam schiff picked up their exchange in real-time. >> i will read part of one of his tweets. "everywhere marie yovanovitch went turned bad. she started off in somalia, how did that go?" >> the president said this about yovanovitch. "everywhere marie yovanovitch went turned bad. she started off in somalia, how did that go? then fast forward to ukraine, where the new ukrainian president spoke unfavorably about her in my second phone call with him. it is a u.s. president's absolute right to appoint
ambassadors." yovanovitch, not skipping a beat, replied. >> i can't speak to what the president is trying to do but i think the effect is to be intimidating. >> schiff picked up on that. >> some of us here take witness intimidation very, very seriously. >> then schiff got distracted by a different argument. the house intelligence committees only republican member. >> the gentlewoman will suspend. >> what is the interruption for? >> you are not recognized. >> the spout overrules expired quickly. >> ambassador yovanovitch, i wanted -- >> the gentlewoman will suspend. you are not recognize. >> this is the fifth time you've interrupted members of congress, duly elected members of congress.
>> nancy pelosi says the aggression and fighting filters down from the top. >> part of it is his own insecurity as an imposter. i think he knows full well that he's in that office way over his head. he has to diminish everyone else. >> breaking tonight, another witness just wrapped up testimony behind closed doors over at the intelligence committee, david holmes reportedly confirming some of wednesday's testimony from bill taylor and tomorrow mark sandy, an official from the office of management and budget is also slated to testify. >> shannon: gillian turner with the latest. thank you. amid the impeachment battle, attorney general bill barr says no one should be surprised. >> medially after president trump won election, opponents are not great at what they called the resistance. they rallied around an explicit strategy of using every tool and
maneuver to sabotage the functioning of the executive branch and his administration. instead of viewing themselves as the loyal opposition, as opposing parties have done in this country for over 200 years, they essentially see themselves as engaged in a war to cripple by any means necessary and duly elected government. >> shannon: let's bring in republican house intelligence committee member brad wenstrup. you've had a busy week. >> glad to be with you. >> shannon: we are still waiting on some transcripts of the closed-door depositions. there is another one today that has just wrapped up. somebody who overheard a phone call. you've got that going on but we are still waiting on transcript from things that were deposed a week or two or more ago. how important is it for you as someone who's going to question witnesses, to have the transcripts? >> that's one of the problems
we're facing because we are not allowed to talk about these depositions and what was said in there. none of it is classified material. if you want to ask a question to a witness in the open hearing that may be based on something we learned in one of the depositions, we are not allowed. this is just one more avenue i'm afraid to say that adam schiff is using to keep us at bay and then you saw clips of other means that he's using to try to stifle us from saying things. it's been very challenging for us and very frustrating obviously. >> shannon: we are going to talk with another group about what happened with representative stefanik with him and their showdown. chairman schiff was able to use a tweet the president sent out in real time today. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez tweeting "trump himself is clearly not satisfied with only one article of impeachment. his choice to publicly broadcast his own personally authored witness intimidation means he wants to sign up for another article on obstruction of
justice too. "the new york times" saying "the tactic functions not just as an attempt to discredit his critics but as a warning for others." what do you make of the analysis that equates this tweet to witness intimidation and possibly adding onto the articles of impeachment? >> i would say this. the president is going through a process we can't represent himself in any way, shape, or form and that's a problem. where's the obstruction of justice? he can't face his accuser. we don't get to meet the whistle-blower even though we were promised that we would meet the whistle-blower. take a look at it from the other side a little bit. this is a person is being accused, who is being impeached as president of the united states, and he can't even defend himself. i can only say maybe he felt that might be the only way to get his message out. but this is not unusual for ambassador to be replaced and there are reasons. poland dated a couple years ago because warsaw felt that the ambassador that was remaining from the previous administration is not in sync with this president.
so this happens. we know this. it's kind of the same with the military when you take some of these jobs. they are tough jobs, no doubt and i don't doubt that this ambassador's attention, work hard and give us a long career d on the president has the right to do that and that was mentioned many times today. >> shannon: it was but when it comes against the backdrop of accusations that rudy giuliani or others were spreading things about her that may not have been true and that led the president to say if she's working against my interests, of course i wouldn't want that ambassador there. what you make of what we heard about that today? stick a one of the things we have to keep in mind is that some of those accusations, somef those rumors and things being said were started by ukrainians. so it made for a bad dynamic. she may be the innocent victim of that but sometimes, like with the baseball team, if the chemistry is not right, the manager has to go. that's how you make the move. the president i guess felt there
was someone else he wanted to put in place and again, here's the situation today where compared to other impeachments, the president was allowed to have counsel present and also to bring forth their own witnesses. that's not happening today. i've got to imagine that's frustrating for the president. i can't speak for the president but i've got to imagine it's pretty frustrating. he only read one part of the tweet. in fairness, there was more to it. frankly i don't know if she's getting the president's tweets as she sits there so i don't think she would've been intimidated and less adam schiff even said something. it was a weak case. >> shannon: next week, eight witnesses on tap. we will hear from several more, including former ambassador sondland and others. republicans and asked for additional witnesses. let us know if you get more. >> we will. wasn't this all about the phone call and the aid? it seems like we've drifted away from what the impeachment inquiry supposed to be about. >> shannon: it continues. thank you for stopping in.
if the public impeachment hearings have dominated the news most of the week. tonight fox news media analyst and a host of "media buzz" looks at how the mainstream press is covering it. >> the coverage of the impeachment hearings has seemingly split into parallel universes. anti-trump. anti-trump commentators saying that testimony of career diplomats is devastating to the president and pro-trump analysts calling it secondhand and irrelevant. >> i think bill taylor is an incredible witness. he's very matter-of-fact, straightforward. >> these guys testifying, i couldn't tell if they were doing a job interview, talking about their great grandfather and his wife. or they were homeless guys. speak republicans did not say one word about this devastating testimony about donald trump caring more about investigating joe biden that he cares about ukraine. >> what actually unfolded was a complete and utter disaster for adam schiff. >> there was praise across the board today for the ousted ambassador to ukraine and
criticism of the president for tweeting "everywhere marie yovanovitch went turned bad. "that instantly change the media narrative. >> this woman has ice in her veins. she has a spine of steel. speak of the president of the united states as their boss and he is intimidating them publicl. >> asked her nearly poor judgment. >> i don't think it rises to the level of intimidation of a witness but i think that's the way it's going to be characterized. >> the cable news network took different approaches. the first day of fox and cnn coverage was anchored by teams of journalists, msnbc had brian williams with ex-democratic senator claire mccaskill, obama solicitor general, and anti-trump host nicole wallace and george conway, husband of kellyanne conway. >> astonishing and it's a direct violation of his oath of office. the ultimate impeachable offense. >> some journalists found the hearings watched by 13 million
pretty dull, although impeachment shouldn't have to be a scintillating tv show. the president provided the needed plot twist today with his twitter attack on a woman the press is casting is a synthetic witness. shannon. >> shannon: howard kurtz, thank you. stock investors more than shrugging off impeachment and all this theatrics. huge down wall street with all three major exchanges closing in record territory. the dow surged 223 to cross the 20,000 milestone for the first time. quid pro quo is out. bribery is in. the specific reason the democrats are changing the narrative. asa hutchinson is up next. applebee's new sizzlin' entrées. now starting at $9.99. only pay for what you need with liberty mutual. any comments doug? yeah. only pay for what you need with liberty mutual.
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"the washington post." reporting on the recent change in the word democrats are using to push for impeachment. "the shift came after the democratic congressional campaign committee conducted focus groups in key house battlegrounds in recent weeks, testing messages related to impeachment. among the question put to participants was whether quid pro quo, extortion, bribery was more compelling to scripture of trump's conduct. according to two people familiar with the results which circulated among democrats this week, the focus groups found bribery to be most damning. joining us to discuss it, asa hutchinson. governor, good to have you with us. >> good to be with you. >> shannon: will you take the country through it, democrats have said you have to persuade the american people or it's really so incredibly divisive to the country. word that they have focus tested and they know the word that's landing the best when it comes to something that's not good for the president is the word
bribery. you know messaging is important. how does it work? >> it recognizes that they have to have the support of the american people and they are trying to figure out a way to gain support for their removal efforts. it also shows that they have been objective to accomplish which is the removal of a president. they are focused on that objective and they are trying to figure out a way to get there. i think it also sets a very high bar for them. bribery has very specific means in the law and it's a high burden of proof, in contrast to other offenses that they could outline that would probably not be so difficult and clear under the law. so they are clearly having an objective, they are trying to reach that objective. i have been through this before 20 years ago. what strikes me is the difference that then we had the
judiciary committee, that was the lead committee. we had chairman hyde who was really a fair person, and the conduct the hearing. and you have adam schiff, the lead prosecutor, and he set himself up in that fashion and that diminishes the fairness and you can never get the support of the american people if you don't have a fair process. >> shannon: democrats would argue they are making the case, going element by element. say if you want to make it bribery, will ask the former ambassador yovanovitch about it. here are some of her exchange with congressman stortz. >> do you have any information regarding the president of the united states accepting any bribes? >> no. >> do you have any information regarding any criminal activity that the president of the united states has been involved with at all? >> no. >> shannon: that's how she answer the questions.
in the nation, under the headline, they say "for bribery, you just have to show that the public official wanted a thing of value in exchange for doing his job. the transcript makes that case easily." as you noted, this is nontraditional criminal court hearing. it's impeachment. house members have a lot of latitude in how it comes together and they know that the word bribery is not only polling well with people. it also mentioned in the constitution. does that make their job easier? >> i don't think it does. we have to remember they are trying to lay out a case. there is nothing that i've seen that justifies impeachment. it's a serious distraction for our country that makes it difficult for us to get other things done, like voting for usmca, the new nafta that is so important to states like arkansas. whenever you look at the case they are laying out, they've that eight more witnesses and we don't know what it's going to
be. they have a heavy bar and the first, best evidence in this case is the transcript. right before i came on, i reread the transcript. you can't make case for bribery from that transcript. it has to be supported by other evidence that thus far we have not seen. we have seen diplomats who should be respected, and i worked with them as head of the dea and homeland security, very good public servants. but because they are offended or because they believe they've been mistreated or they disagreed with the president's policy, you cannot convert that into an impeachable offense. that right now is the path the committee seems to be going. >> shannon: we've got to go so i need a "yes" or "no" from you. do you think any democrats will vote against these articles if we are left with what was seen so far? >> no, i think they have made up their mind. >> shannon: okay, all right, governor, great to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> shannon: the newest entry
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trespassing, illegal secret recordings. the center for medical progress as they will appeal. is there trouble brewing for the newest democratic presidential candidate? critics pointing to deval patrick's efforts to oust state officials during his time as massachusetts governor. the officials were trying to put patrick's brother-in-law, convicted rapist, on the state's sex offender registry. joe biden on the attack against a man he hopes to calling the president threaten national security and a new fund-raising video. biden has a personal interest as well as a professional one. he thinks it will successfully take down the present. peter doocy reports from santa monica, california. >> joe biden likes to brag. he's been the middle of two impeachment hearings but this is the first one where a member of his family is on the republicans witness wish list. >> mr. vice president, your son hunter is on the republican wish list. >> biden's first event was less
than 40 miles from the site of the high school shooting. >> i am so tired of people talking about your prayers. we have to protect these kids. >> another democrat has spent tens of millions of his fortune on gun control. michael bloomberg it who isn't officially counted but's about to dump $100 million of its own cash into anti-trump digital ad. michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania and arizona. a bloomberg aide tells fox news "mike isn't waiting to take on the president. he is starting now." elizabeth warren started in january. >> he did not invent the corruption in washington but he has taken it to new heights. >> warrants campaign is announcing "no later than her third year in office, she will pass legislation to complete the transition to medicare for all. that's longer than many thought but it doesn't matter to the pete buttigieg campaign where an
official said "she still doesn't trust the american people to make the right health care decisions for themselves." fights like that overshadow foreign policy but north korea is complaining about joe biden, calling him an "rabid dog." that "must be beaten to death with a stick." >> i got a high compliment today. my staff told me that from north korea, they said that biden's election would be a terrible thing to happen, i am paraphrasing. they are dam right it would be a terrible thing. speak of the democratic nomination is no sure thing and biden hasn't been to a warrant event or sanders or mayor pete event but believes what he has seen and heard at his own rallies is promising. >> i'm not going to let this go to my head. >> this afternoon was the deadline for democrats to get on the ballot in new hampshire. hillary clinton didn't do it. that doesn't mean she's out for good. michael bloomberg didn't file in new hampshire either and he is choosing to focus on mark's
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time except a minority counsel. speak with the ranking member yielded time to another member of congress. >> you are gauging the gentlewoman from new york. >> ambassador yovanovitch, i want to thank you for being here today. >> the gentlewoman will suspend. you are not recognized. >> this is the fifth time you've interrupted duly elected members of congress. >> the gentlewoman will suspend. >> shannon: tensions flaring in the public impeachment hearings. former ukrainian ambassador marie yovanovitch. schiff versus stefanik. was it a stunt or something more? democratic strategist steve murphy. stephanie hamel, deroy murdock. welcome. this is how it was put by the national review. elise stefanik stood out on day one of the hearings. the strongest republican questioner of the day. >> she is been quite a stand out during the impeachment hearings. she has a lot to say.
she is externally effective and she's one of the youngest members of congress. she is a millennial. she's a woman, 1 of 13 republican women in congress. there's not a ton of women, as you know, and politics. i really think that schiff's treatment of her today was abhorrent. he seemed to have an extra level of disdain against her while he was telling her to shush and quiet down. you have to wonder how the left would react if it was, you know, or public and it chairman shushing a congresswoman. i don't like they would take kindly to it. the reporting would be very different. >> shannon: a tweet today says adam schiff's behavior is appalling. if a republican did this, the media and the democrats would instantly accuse them of being sexist. is that fair? slick i don't think it's fair. she's out of order. her argument in her defenders argument is with the rules of
the house and with robert's rules of order, not with anybody else. i think what she's doing is a perfect example of the republicans can't argue the facts of his case at all. the facts are transparent. the president tried to leverage usa to ukraine to get them to investigate his chief political from running political opponent. >> shannon: doesn't matter that they didn't do the investigation and the aide was released? >> no, not at all. it becomes a case of attempted bribery as opposed to bribery. the bride was never actually carried out. but that doesn't change the fact that he committed an abuse of power. now what you are seeing the republicans do is argue the law. it's a standard technique in a courtroom. >> shannon: you don't have the facts, you go with the law and if you don't have the law, you
go with the facts. there were rules put into place. the chairman adam schiff is overseeing it and he said there was no room in the initial round of questioning to give time to a member. she wasn't allowed to ask questions. slate says "the episode was entirely a stunt and the incredulity of schiff and stefanik was manufactured." >> according to the rules, time should be given over to either the ranking member or the council that they are bringing in. that's fine. but schiff could have said it politely. he didn't have to say suspend, suspend, bang the gavel. that was intimidating and obnoxious and unnecessary. i give stefanik tremendous credit for something she did wednesday which is to get ambassador taylor to admit the policy towards ukraine actually involved the provision of lethal military aid which they had to wait 55 days before but they got the military aid. they had to wait 1,066 days under obama but when the time
when the russians rolled into ukraine in february of 2014 and the time that obama left office. in those days, they got zero military aid. they got clothes, blankets, comforters, they got bedding. the delay and all that under the trump administration, they eventually did get the kind of weapons that can tear russian tanks apart. they got the aide, the very aid the democrats are saying they deserved and they got under trump. they didn't get it under obama and i don't remember schiff and pelosi complaining about that. >> shannon: stefanik has been very studied in putting together the case she's making. she said a couple things that have gone to this thing about her being so young. matthew dowd at abc tweeted, and he has since had it was misinterpreted and apologized but he tweeted "the lease to fennec is a perfect example why just electing someone because they are woman or millennial doesn't necessarily get you the
leaders that we need." a few weeks ago, during closed-door testimony when she was one of the questioners with carnal vitamin, his attorney said i don't know who you are. if you could identify yourself for the record. she said i'm on the house intelligence committee. okay. i don't know we were. i apologize. >> i am from new york, third term member. i get asked this a lot and he says that's good and she says no is not. but i will continue my line of questioning. stephanie, this is not something new. >> she had to push back and we saw the abc analyst apologized but in his apology he said is being misinterpreted but what i meant to say is people should be voted in his lungs i have integrity. as if ms. stefanik doesn't have any integrity. the apology was even worse. he goes to the big picture here, conservative women are constantly under attack and the media isn't there to defend them. look at the women in the white house. so many women in the white house with high positions and they are attacked for their makeup, the
way they dress, the way they speak. everything about them is under attack and it's not something that you see happen to men. women in politics in general, there's more scrutiny. for some reason, it's open season on conservative women and it's something i face all the time. it's sickening. >> shannon: dowd head tweeted about congresswoman ocasio-cortez. whether you agree or not, she's a breath of fresh air. to think there's a double standard when it comes to conservative women and progressive women? >> no, i don't think there is a double standard and i don't think she's being, stefanik, is being mistreated. the lease stefanik is in the position of being the tough perl hard-nosed, very experienced politician. she was very active, she was an opposition researcher before she was elected to congress. she knows what she's doing. she can stand on her own
two feet. she can defend yourself. she's really good. that's why she's being so outspoken. their republicans want her out front. she's a partisan and a highly competent one. not because she's a woman. >> those tweets, he is a straight news unbiased journalist. >> shannon: will give you the final wrap-up. >> i would say it's similar, talking about intimidation of women, the whole presentation raised about how president trump's comments about the former ambassador ukraine and how she was intimidated at all that, this woman started her career in somalia. she's been in very tough places in the notion that it would lead her to be intimidated and shocked and terrified is absurd. it doesn't rise to the level of witness and predation especially since she stayed there and testified for another five and half hours. if you really were intimidated, she would've run out of the room. room. steve and a lot of people say she held her own and elise stefanik did as well. strong women doing their jobs. great to have you with us on a
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shouldn't have allowed myself to slip like that. it's out of character. >> oh, gosh. that's one of the worst things i've ever seen on the professional sports field. >> shannon: cleveland browns star defensive end myles garrett is looking at a long suspension for ripping off the helmet of pittsburgh steelers quarterback mason rudolph and then whacking him in the head with it last night. garrett has apologize for the incident but the lawyer says he's not ruling out legal options. we will start there tonight with two men who know their way around a court room. great to have you with us. let's start with exhibit a. david, garrett violated unnecessary roughness, this is from the nfl, and on sports when my conduct rules as well as fighting, removing the helmet of an opponent and using it as a weapon. what chance does he have for an appeal? >> he's going to appeal. he has a right to appeal and the suspension is an indefinite one. this year and possibly next. this is the longest suspension for an on-field incident there
is. there was a 2006 innocent with a player where he took the helmet off and stomped the individuals face and that was only five games. this is more. it's going to be more. what he needs to do is appeal but he needs to start doing more community service. he needs to do anger management. he needs to put together a mitigation package that bob and i would do for our defense clients to try to put his best foot forward on the appeal and later to try to get reinstated for next year. >> shannon: this is what arian foster says. he says "the outrage is dumb. baseball and hockey fight all the time. every time football and basketball players get into it, it is some ethical issue. lol. so stupid." because this is beyond sportsmanship roughness. this guy literally committed the people could see is a crime if a prosecutor wanted to go forward with this. the helmets are made of steel.
that quarterback had and knocked cold, unconscious a couple weeks ago. that head could've caused serious injury and the fact there wasn't serious injury or there wasn't any injury is probably a thing that will save prosecutors from hitting them. had he been injured, he would be in handcuffs right now. that's exactly what we do as defense lawyers. he needs anger management, community service. he needs a team of people that will get outside the court of public opinion and try to convince the league that at the end of the day he's trying to do the right thing. otherwise he's toast. doing let's go to case two. this has to do with madonna. she is showing up late. this guy is doing because he bought a ticket that set 8:30 and the promoters have figured out she's two hours late. the ticket say 10:30. he says he's tried to get his money back. he's filed a complaint that says ticketholders had to work and go to school the next day which prevented them from attending a
condor that would end around 1:00 a.m. the plaintiff attempted to obtain a refund for three tickets purchased for the madonna concert. exhibit c. david. >> for this business, bad business is not getting the refund after the time change but i could see an argument by madonna and the company that it's not a material breach. it's only two hours. by the way, who's been to a concert that starts on time anyway? not me. and also in his complaint, he's asking for a $15,000. he only paid a little over a thousand for it. i can't see why he would get $14,000 more and also he has a duty to mitigate so he better try to sell them if he's not going to because if he just sits on them, he could be out the money as well. >> shannon: my understanding is he did sell them but didn't get anywhere near what he thought he could or should because he says that tickets are devalued now that they know it's not going to start on time. people would make a
consideration. you may not want to buy these tickets. as for madonna, here's what she says. >> [indistinct] >> shannon: the queen is never late. they were just early, i guess. >> all i can say is that's not a great way to express yourself, madonna. i had to do it. here's the thing, this kid was a minor, let's not forget and there's a curfew in miami. you have to be home by 11:00. when the concerts are starting at 10:30 and sometimes 12:00, because she deigns to queen herself at those later times. he either loses the tickets or he has to violate the law. from that standpoint, i think h.
i agree with dave that damages might be too much but there is a deceptive fraud practice count in the complaint. >> shannon: i didn't know there were places in the u.s. that still have curfews for kids but interesting. you learn something new every day. gentlemen, you've made your arguments. folks at home, let us know. use the hashtag #nightcourt"- #nightcourt"--andletusknow. we have a whole group of heroes, all strangers to each other. they came together when the dog was found darting through traffic in houston. she escaped from her owner. 20 drivers worked to rescue the dog. they brought the entire freeway to a halt. good samaritans comforting and uniting this highway hound.
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