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news channel? >> definitely. you can also come. but definitely, veterans day is a big deal for the whole military so you just like to observe it and respect our veterans, past and present. bill: thank you for following your calling and thank you for your service, our best to you, okay? be well. martha: good luck to you all. bill: martha, you look like you're in uniform over there. where is martha? >> martha: good to see you, good luck to all of you, good luck tomorrow. jenna: you don't get much of a better lead-in than that, right? look at all those uniforms out there. i'm jenna lee. jon: i'm jon scott, "happening now" the feds taking action after the mail terror plot, banning cargo from two nation. what could happen to the
economy? jenna: and president bush on the key events of his presidency, what he tells us about 9/11, hurricane katrina and war in iraq. jon: a football stakeout as an eighth grader pulls off an incredible trip play. you won't believe how this game ended. we'll be talking to him and his coach. jenna: something big is happening in lower manhattan. closing arguments in the first ever civilian trial for gitmo detainee. the prosecution calls ahmed ghailani a -- ghailani is mass murder remembered, cold blooded killer in the bombings in u.s. and africa, but the defense as you might imagine here disagrees with that. david lee miller is outside the courthouse in new york city. how is the defense portraying their client? >> one word, innocent. as the defense makes closing arguments this morning they have already spent 2-3 times longer than they did
presenting their entire case during the trial, in fact, the defense during the trial did not present a single witness. the defense spoke for less than half an hour, presenting a number of stipulations with the government. nevertheless, defense attorney for ahmed ghailani is speaking at great length to describe his client, quoting him now as nothing more than a dupe. he says that the government provided insufficient evidence, woefully insufficient evidence and went on to tell the jury, quoting him now, there is one question for the jury to decide, to make it easy for you, did he know and he went on to say no, ahmed did not know, he did not know that the people he was associating with and helping to provide trust and explosives to object members of al-qaeda, his client was a dupe and repeatedly, jenna, throughout the morning, he referred to him as a kid. jenna. jenna: all right, david, well, the jury certainly has
a big job in front of them. the prosecution wrapped up their side of the closing arguments yesterday. what did they have to say? >> reporter: it looks like -- >> >> reporter: >> -- jenna: sorry, we lost your shot for a second. do we have you? there you are. we see you on television, david lee. go ahead if we keep that shot up. >> reporter: glad to be back! i was going to say that yesterday, the prosecution methodically presented evidence that the defendant here, ahmed ghailani, had a key role in providing the truck, as well as the explosives, that were used to convert that truck into a 1000-ton explosive device that destroyed the u.s. embassy. and the government anticipated the defense arguments this morning and said this is not juvenile court, he was 24 years old at the time the embassy disploations -- explosions took place and also made a point of saying that many
members of the conspiracy that resulted in this tragedy were even younger than the defendant ahmed ghailani and the government has said he knew what he was doing, he should be held accountable. he faces life behind bars. jenna. jenna: david lee miller on a developing story in lower manhattan, david, thank you very much. jon: our department of homeland security is now banning all air cargo from the nations of somalia and yemen, the move, following last week's thwarted terrorist plot to ship explosives on board aircraft headed for the u.s. the explosives were hidden inside printer cartridges, so now homeland security is banning ink and toner cartridges weighing more than a pound from passenger flights into the u.s. as well. greg palkot, live in london for us now. we understand, greg, there are some who say this is too little, too late. >> reporter: well jon, what's driving all of this is the fact that the packages which came from yemen from via ups and fedex and had the explosive
material in them were only snagged at airports prior to the united states, including one here in the u.k., because of an intelligence tipoff. a new reporting today, the allegation is being made that washington has been aware of these risks for years, that shipping companies and others have been putting pressure on washington to not institute more thorough checks, and in fact, there are something like 26 million tons of cargo shipped worldwide every year. one insider in the u.k. told us that, in fact, it would be devastating if really tight security would be placed on this industry. the administration counters that it is acts, as you note, jon, department of homeland security yesterday extending the cargo ban from yemen, also to somalia, another terror hot bed and also said it was going to deal closer with what they call high risk cargo coming from elsewhere but it stopped short of calling for checks on all cargo coming into the united states and that is what a lot of people
are calling forks jon. jon: obviously everybody wants to make sure terrorist cargo is no threat in the future. how do they achieve that? >> the problem, jon, really is that the united states can't tell the world what to do, and it's a worldwide thing. it's got to kind of rely on the kindness of some foreign strangers, including some folks here in europe. yesterday, in brussels, we saw security chiefs from the european union meeting and they have come up with their own mix of ideas that they are looking at right now, including, number one, black listing unions -- occurrence not just yemen, somalia, but any countries with terror links sending packages abroad and giving full access, and this is very controversial, getting full access to databases of shipping companies to find dangerous items coming from anywhere, coming from anyone, and they're also calling for better security at airports, more sharing of information, all this does, in fact, jon, cost money, and the german interior minister, tomas lemezie
summed it up that yes, if this is going to be more expensive, then this is going to be more expensive, security is not free. i don't know jon greg palkot, thank you. jenna: how can the government beef up air cargo security without disrupting the economy, causing more issues or having to rely on other information overseas? is there a way to do it? is it possible? let's talk to security analyst mike boyd and from the antiterrorism task force, bob strag. is business to blame here? should we look at business and say they need to take greater corporate responsibility to keep us all safe? >> well, yeah, these stories of yellow journalism, of businesses trying to make us unsafe, the reality is it's very hard to check every -- right now, we're not going to have printer cartridges, because somebody put something in a printer cartridges, you can put textiles from malaysia. the reality is we can shut down and be more safe but this argument of as to
whether we need to somehow fix it, i have a problem because how are we going to fix a seventh avenue subway? that's open as well. the reality is we've got to be honest with the american public and say we do have certain levels of threat, we do have certain levels of danger, and we'll do everything we can but to say we have to check every box, there's no effective way of doing that, even if we could look at every box. jenna: bob, that seems to be a different message from what we're hearing from other officials, because it makes someone hearing that we can't everyone safe, it doesn't make us feel very safe. so you agree with mike's points? >> mike has some good points, but jenna, the bottom line is there is three things that have be done, intelligence, an foarsment and security. all three things have to work together, like a three legged stool and that's what we need to do. that's what stopped the most recent event, we had good intelligence from saudi arabia, acted on it and were able to move on it quickly. that's a as a result of the
ten events that targeted new york in the past nine years. those issues work together. we need to get better. i would say every package that goes on a passenger plane should be checked. you know, not all cargo is on passenger planes but much of it is and why can't we check that, why can't we have i.d. and c tv in the ups stations and fedex stations around the world so that we can put some type of preventative herbures -- measures in place to let people know we are checking? there are things we can do that are very practical to make us safer. jenna: let me pick up on this point with mike, because you're making great ones but it seems like every turn the terrorists take, they win. if they cause higher taxes and we pay higher tax and corporations, they, win, too. so the question is when do we win, when are we the vehicleters in the constant war on terror? >> welcome to the free society. that's the whole object tivment as bob says, the
whole way we understand -- and remember, what happened last week was a success. we stopped it because, like bob said, we had some intelligence that made us aware of it. but we're always going to be on the defensive with people trying to shoot us. next time around it might not be a printer cartridge, it might be a computer box. jenna: but why can't we be more defensive, why can't we be proactive? >>dy -- with didn't know where these people are. besides this was amateur. if you want time precision, you don't send it by air cargo. that's a good way of losing it. jenna: on being proactive, if you had an unlimited amount of funds now, where would you invest in our whole security scheme? where do you think the mope goes? >> that's an easy answer, it goes to intelligence, because that's where we make the long term cases, that's where we're ultimately going to stop terrorism. infiltrating these groups of people, identifying who the terrorists are and dismantling them. that's how it's done.
it's not going to be at the perimeter, when we check somebody at the airport going through a ma magnotometer. it's identifying the major organizations, the major leaders, dismantling them, taking the funding arrange the training camps away, getting rid of them once and for all, that's where the money should go. jenna: looks like we are probably all looking forward for that day to come. bob, mike, thank you very much. appreciate it very much. jon: interesting to see if we get any questions about terrorism on our town hall panel because as usual we're going to be putting your questions to our panel, a little bit of some of these things we're going to be talking about. jobs, an open forum today, the battle for leadership object -- on both sides of washington. jenna: we're going to follow you guys, wherever you want to go as viewers, we're going to follow you in your topics there, so send us any questions about the president's trip to asia,
the economy, any of that, we're going to link to the live chat at foxnews.com, reach it through the home page and also blog with us, tweet, send an e-mail, a whole bunch of different ways to reach us, foxnews.com/"happening now. jon: also former president george w. bush out with his new memoir, i have a copy here, he spoke to our own sean hannity about the pivotal moments at his life and the presidency. also a sneak peek at his book. iraq war veteran turned officer gunned down in the line of duty. now the hunt is on for his killer. we're live with the latest on that.
being a police officer his dream job. rick lazano is live in riverside, california. tell us about this shooting, how did it happen, rick? >> well, jon, we should say also that he would have turned 28 on thanksgiving day. the incident began as a stolen vehicle, pursuit -- vehicle pursuit, the officer began following a truck that he thought was involved in a hit and run, the truck stopped in front of a park, the driver of that truck got out of the truck, ran into the park, the officer in pursuit got out of his vehicle and gave chase on foot. there were shots fired, the truck driver then went back to his truck, got inside and left. other officers arrived at the scene and found officer bonaminio, he was taken to the hospital and died a short time ago. by the squad car, a picture was suspect is taken, he is thought to be between 30 and
40 years of age, a black male, slender build, and investigators are still looking for him. jon: any other leads besides that photo? >> that's it at the moment. just the photo is all they have, unless they are suppressing other evidence we don't know about. we knee at the scene yesterday they spent all day long combing through the park, looking for other evidence, but at this point, jon, we just don't know if there is any other evidence they've managed to come up with. it's just a tragic story, here's a young man who graduated from high school here in the year 2000, served two terms in the army in iraq, he survived the war, only to come back home to riverside and die at the hands of a killer here. jon: i know, such a sad, sad story. thank you very much. we'll check in with you later. rick lazano are kttv. jenna: harris is the the
breaking news desk. stories lick this pull at your heart strings. is there any information that people can do when it comes to this manhunt? >> reporter: an important hunt in all of this and i've just finished calling these telephone lines to make sure are up and running, they have two numbers people can call in search of the suspect, he's a black male, mid 30s to mid 40s, six, one, six, two, possible facial hair last seen wearing black clothing and a baseball cap. he's believed to be armed with a handgun, considered armed d very dangerous, the last vehicle he was seen in was a rental big rig stolen a few miles away from the crime scene. here are the numbers, they are active numbers right now: >> this is going to take i'm told the public's help.
you talk about pulling at the heart strings, they are depending upon the public they protect and serve to be part of this investigation and help them track down a killer. back to you. jenna: we'll continue to watch this developing story. harris, thank you very much for that information. also moving on here to another story we're watching, former president george w. bush, reflecting on the past, in one of his first interviews since leaving the oval office, he also talked to sean hannity about the future of the gop and also the tea party. >> here's what i see. i see democracy working. and people are expressing a level of frustration, are concerned, and they're getting involved in the process. jenna: from the 9/11 terror attacks to the war in iraq, we talk to an insider who had a front row seat to the george w. bush presidency, next.
jon: formerly president george w. bush, speaking to sean hannity in his first extended cable tv interview since leaving office, he's promoting his new book "decision points" which hits book stores today, setting the record straight on everything from the 9/11 terror attacks, hurricane katrina, war in iraq and his frution traces about not finding weapons of mass destruction in that country. >> everybody thought he had wmd, everybody meaning every intelligence service, everybody in the administration. >> a lot of democrats. >> a lot of members of congress. you might remember, and i think for the sake of history, it's important to put in the book that, prior to my arrival, congress had overwhelmingly passed a resolution that for the removal of saddam hussein from power, it was embraced by my predecessor.
>> joining us now, former deputy press secretary under george w. bush, scott stanzell. it's a sizeable book, 500 pages, roughly. anything in there surprise you? i mean, is this the same book, the same boss that you saw as he was leaving office? >> yeah, it really is. i think people will see that he's a man of character, integrity, compassion and he's a man who's very much at peace with the decisions that he had to make in what was one of the most tult ult uous maybe times in recent history in this country, and i think he's not one who's prone for naval gazing or being put on the couch as he likes to say so this book that walks people through the decisions that he mad to -- had to make as president and that he was confronted with when he was in the oval office will provide i think sort of a revealing sense of all of the information that he processed as president and those difficult decisions that he had to make, whether it was on the economy or on issues of
national security or things even in his personal life. jon onand he doesn't shrink from some of those calls that he made. i mean, he's been asked about hurricane katrina, for instance, and said yeah, i didn't do the kind of job that i wish i had done. >> right. he is certainly able to reflect on some of the things that went very well during his presidency, some of the more troubling times, whether it was hurricane katrina or the financial crisis that occurred. i think he's one who's not one to shift blame, as he may have -- you may have seen in the interview he conducted last night, he said i'm always to blame, and he actually sort of meant that, because it is a buck stops here job with the president and he felt the weight of that office solely when he was there, and i think this book will help people understand why he made the decisions he did, at the time when he had to make them. jon: he had a 90 percent approval rating just after the 9/11 attacks. it was substantially lower at the time he left office.
when you were coordinating some of his sort of exit interviews with the media, did that bother him? >> no, it really didn't. and he used to say who cares, and that was one of the quickest ways that you could get dismissed from the oval office was to bring poll numbers into a conversation. it was not something that really drove his decision making at all. in fact, the discussion about whether vice president cheney would be kept on the ticket in the book, he has a revealing discussion of that conversation that occurred in 2003. that is sort of reflective of the type of president that he was. he wanted somebody who could do the job and he wasn't really very concerned about poll numbers or sometimes making people upset with the decisions that he had to make that he thought were in the best interest of the country. jon: one of those concerns water boarding. there has been so much criticism directed at the bush administration for the water boarding of detainees at guantanamo bay and
elsewhere, and yet the president points out, what, three people were subjected to water boarding? >> right. that's right. three people. and you know, the president's most important task is to help protect the people of this country. and certainly, after the devastating attacks of 911, that was the sipping ular focus for president bush, and because of the changes we made and the leadership that he provided to completely restructure our security apparatus we did not suffer another attack for the rest of his presidency but there were very tough decisions that he had to make and he talked about that, water boarding, in that it gathered valuable information to protect american lives, and he would make the same decision again. and he had to put faith in those people that were giving him advice. he's not a lawyer, as he's indicated, and he got the legal advice that water boarding was permissible and it was used in a very, very limited sense. jon: he has some nice things to say about former president bill clinton, says
he gets along with him very well, they enjoy a collegial relationship and says he's also not going to be one to criticize the current president, president obama. >> that's right. i think the president, president bush, really does want to -- he means it when he says he wants to try to regain some of his anonimity. he doesn't want to be somebody who's constantly on the political stage, criticizing actions that are being taken by those who are in washington, d.c. you know, he as president, you have joined a very unique club and obviously, from his father being president, he knows a great deal about that, and thought about that as he was going through his own two terms in office. but he doesn't see himself as one who's going to take much time criticizing the current office holder in president obama because he knows that there are plenty of people out there who really sort of professionally criticize the president no matter who it is. jon: stott stanzall was
deputy press can't under president george w. bush, his new book is out "decision points". be sure to catch sean hannity's entire sit-down with the former president, his first cable interview since leaving the white house. 9:00 p.m. eastern time. it is only on fox news. jenna: have you finished that book yet? jon: i haven't finished it. jenna: it's a good read. pretty thick, jon scott. i'm sure, tomorrow. no problem. if you want the clip notes version, sean hannity, tonight. remember this story? acorn workers, accused of getting paid to register voters during the 2008 presidential election. it was a controversial one. we now have a verdict in that case. the latest from our voter fraud investigation unit, just ahead. plus president obama, making the second stop on his tour of asia in indonesia as a volcano claims hundreds of lives nearby. we have a live report coming your way next.
jenna: a quick fox business alert for you, the price of gold really a hot topic, hitting a record high this morning, trading at more than $1400 an ounce. now, this is important to watch because of why it's happening. there's a lot of fears about inflation, also a weaker dollar that's helping this out, helping the price of gold move higher, and of course you had that topic of debt. debt concerns in europe once again hitting this market and making those prices of gold try to move up a little
bit higher, so something to watch carefully and closely here and we'll keep an eye on it and all the business news of the day. jon: also new next hour, elizabeth smart, back on that the stand in utah right now, testifying about her terrifying kidnap ordeal. new details on how she was taken from her bedroom in the middle of the night. plus, the horrors she endured during nine months in captivity. democrats lost control of the house, now a battle is shaping up between two powerful men in that party. what they are fighting for. and if you've got questions about the new congress, you can put them to our town hall usa panel, go to our show page, foxnews.com/happening now and get in touch. jenna: let's talk a little about the president now. right now the president is wrapping up his visit to indonesia, the world's largest muslim country. and the mideast peace process, certainly high on the agenda there. the president's trip, a quick stopover, due in part to concerns over the country's erupting volcano.
there's a lot at play here on this trip. mike emanuel is live at the white house covering this for us. mike, talk about some of the key aspects of the president's message during his time in indonesia. >> reporter: jenna, you mentioned that indonesia is the largest muslim majority country in the world, it's also a place where the president spent four years of his youth, so it's a place near and dear to his heart. but he was asked about efforts to change america's relationship with the muslim world. here's what he had to say: >> our efforts have been earnest, sustained, we don't expect that we are going to completely eliminate some of the misunderstandings and mistrust that have developed over a long period of time. but we do think that we're on the right path. >> reporter: and the president plans to visit the country's largest mosque and will deliver a speech on continuing the outreach to the muslim world, jenna.
jenna: mike, we mentioned that volcano, the eruption of that volcano in indonesia affecting the timeline of this trip. what's next for the president after he leaves indonesia? >> well, he's going to go on to seoul, south korea, obviously, for a critical economic summit, the g20, the group of 20 nations, so his focus will shift back to the global economy. obviously, efforts to deal with china. there have been concerns about china's currency manipulation. and so it will go back to a strictly economic focus when he gets to seoul, south korea, the next -- next stop on this, his longest overseas trip in his presidency. jenn mike, thank you very much. >> thank you. jon: tensions are growing in the middle east now as the israeli government moves ahead with plans for a massive new construction project. they want to build at least 1300 apartments in disputed east jerusalem, an area that the palestinians claim as their own. reena nienan with the latest
-- ninan with the latest. the international community is against settlement building. what's the latest on this new one? >> reporter: some 15,000 housing apartment complexes, it's in the harhoma settlement, where the construction has been approved, op. you mentioned it hasn't -- it's what palestinians want for a future state. there's no way this could have been approved without israeli prime prime minister's n gentleman min netanyahu's approval. this is something they want to discuss if we're able to move on to peace talks, jon. jon: how is the white house reacting to all of this? >> reporter: well, today, president obama in indonesia says it doesn't help the peace process out of it. one thing that israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is gifted in doing is playing congress off of the
white house, it's something he did under president clinton's time and it could be the netanyahu government is moving in as what they perceive as obama's weakness post his election defeat in the house, and what the white house isn't able to do is issue some statements on why they're unhappy about settlement building. they haven't been able to counter much of this defiance coming from the israeli prime minister's office, and from here in israel. netanyahu yesterday was in new orleans, delivering a speech, and there were some hecklers, as you saw in that video there, they are american and israeli jews protesting his polices in the west bank in gaza. so something that yetna -- netanyahu had to deal with while in u.s. over the past couple of days jon. jon: reena ninan, thank you. jenna: a former supervisor for acorn agreeing to a plea deal and in an election misconduct place, prosecutors say they illegal ly offered cash as an
incentive to register more voters. eric shawn has this story. >> it's another voter fraud-related acorn plea. this time, amy busofink, acorn's original director of voter registration, has pled to charges related to an illegal voter registration scheme from the 2008 presidential election. busofink, who's been a voting official of project vote, the activist group president obama once worked for has pled to two misdemeanor charges of counts of conspiracy in nevada. that's her in the yellow, in the courtroom in las vegas a few months ago. the charges were knocked down from felony in connection to what prosecutors say was acorn's plan to illegally pay for signing of voters. acorn called the plan blackjack, 21, quite appropriate for las vegas. acorn field director christopher edwards pled guilty and testified against acorn and busofink, and understand that they all went ahead with that plan. >> i was never told by amy
busofink, nor anyone else, to stop that program, nor was i told by amy busofink or anyone else that there was any legal deputy concerning that program. >> reporter: remember that the acorn las vegas office came under a lot of fire, allegedly faking registrations, including signing up the entire starting lineup of the dallas cowboys. acorn itself faces felony charges in las vegas. the trial is set for a couple of weeks. even though it filed for bankruptcy on election day. according to project vote, ms. busofink ran its 2008 voter registration program and continues to be a top voter registration official there according to the website. here at fox news, we've been investigating voter fraud allegations across the country and if you suspect wrongdoing we want to know. we're especially interested in hearing from something that's really touching, we're getting several e-mails from relatives of the elderly, people who
relatives say are not competently able to vote and have had ballots cast in their names last tuesday. we want to know if this is happening. the address voter fraud at foxnews.com, the concern is some of the most vulnerable may be exploited for political purposes. jenna: eric, thank you very much for that report. jon: republicans as you know won key several governors' races in the elections last week. the huge impact this could have on washington, when the next round of elections come around. we'll get into that. also animal rights workers saving this chimpanzee from a lebanese zoo and possible lung problems. where the smoking chimp is headed now.
attack known, but both reporters were working on stories about developers cutting down tree necessary moscow to make room for new highways. over to germany where thousands of folks tried to stop a shipment of nuclear waste from france. police forced to work through the night to clear the protestors' blockade. to lebanon, where a chimpanzee is now headed for a better life. animal rights workers discovered omega in the lebanese zoo where he was smoking cigarettes to entertain visitors, they say he never climbed a tree or even saw other chiming. well now he's headed to an animal sanctuary in brazil and we hope a smoking cessation. jenna: sometimes you can't make it up. jon: you really can't! jenna: back to politics. talk about a tough transition there. the banner headline in this election season was republicans taking control of the house, but that's just one of the many big stories coming out of 2010. another is the importance of
the governors' races because congressional districts across the country will be redrawn next year and governors have a big say in that process. the gop picked all net gain of seven state houses and that could mean even more gains on capitol hill come 2012. let's talk more about this, jeremy jacobs of hotline oncall, part of the national journal, and is joining us now. jeremy, how does it all work? >> well, one of the overlooked story lines from last tuesday is the gains that republicans made in state legislatures. republicans gained 680 seats in state legislatures across the country and in so doing they flipped 19 chambers to their control, and what that means is that? states where the state legislature and the governor redraw house districts after the census, they will have the leg up in drawing those districts with the republican member in mind. and so in states that are project to gain seats, in a
lot of those states, republicans have the trifecta, the governorship and both chambers of the state legislature, and therefore, they'll have control over redrawing those districts. jenna: we're looking at some of those states, you see nevada, utah, arizona, texas, some big states on our screen jeremy. when you talk about redrawing the districts, some pictures like governors and buddies around the table, redrawing maps, comes to mind. is it really that simple or how do they get those districts to, again, kind of reflect a change in the census, in the population, but also to be advantageous for republican candidates in that area? >> sure, well, changes in the population, where population has grown and where it is lays determines which states gain seats coming up after the 2010 census and which states lose seats and the states where they're gaining seats tend to be controlled by republicans. texas, for example, which if you recall after the last census, was gerrymandered, and districts redrawn to
benefit republicans heavily. know are -- they are now predicted to gain four more seats which means republicans could potentially have four new members in the house of representatives after these districts are redrawn, as far as how it's done, it tends to be a political minefield where lines are challenged by the minority party, and in court, that's why having this try trifecta, having to control the governorship and the having the state legislate aves is so important because it gives a near unanimous ability to redraw the line. jenna: that's an interesting point. as we look ahead to 2012 and there's a lot of speculation about the candidates that might make up that race, is it the game changer no matter the candidate, so it doesn't even matter who's put out there by the republican party but there be an advantage because of it? >> there are certainly advantages in some states. as far as having more representatives in the state legislature and the governorship will help the republican nominee with
their ground games. so it's like ohio, for example, the governorship just flips to republican there is and now they also control the state legislature chambers. so that would be an advantage. as far as it directly translating into votes, it's sort of hard to say but they will definitely have an advantage in states like texas, ohio, possibly even pennsylvania, which is also going to lose states, but now has complete control for the republican party. that will all help the republican nominee. >> unless the public is not happy with what the republican party is doing in some of those states with that trifecta. jeremy jacob, thank you very much, patient your insights. jon: thank you. wait until you see this one, a trick play for the ages, a middle school quarterback catches the other team completely flat footed. he's walking away with the ball and takes off for an easy touchdown. how did they pull this one off? we will talk to the quarterback and the guy who invented this play. that's coming up.
jon: you are about to see one of the craziest trick plays tried on a football field and it worked, driscoll's quarterback, playing to be unsure that the referees were going to mark extra fieldage. the quarterback walks forward to a confused defense and takes off running for what turned out to be a touchdown. joining us now, the 14-year-old quarterback who pulled it off, jason garza, also with us, driscoll middle school's offensive coordinator john delasantos. this was your idea, you invented this penalty play.
>> nothing is invented in northbound -- in football, everything is done before, just giving my twist on things. jon: jason, i'm curious, when you went up to the line you must have been saying to kind of get the other team to buy into this, right? >> not really. i was kind of going along with everything. jon: so you didn't say hey, the refs are going to penalize us some more or something like that? >> that was when i started walking towards the linebackers, yes, i started talking to the linebacker, saying that i was going to move the ball up five more yards. jon onand how did you know, jon, that -- i mean, as soon as the center picks up the ball and moves it, most defensive line men even at the middle school level are trained to fire forward and hit somebody. how did you know this was work? >> the play was up initially by drying the team off sides the play before, the ball got -- they had
everybody line up, once they lined up, i yelled at jayson from the sidelines that this should have been a tenar penalty instead of a 5-yard penalty and that's when the center did the snide snap to jayson and the confusion and everything, the defense just didn't know how to respond, they were just so confused and jayson grabbed the ball and marched off the 5 yards. jon: pulled it off beautifully. you were down 6-0 at that point, with the touchdown, you tied the game and then what happened? >> the rules in the state of texas, you're not allowing teams to play overtime in middle school, so the game ended in a 6-6 tie and they were awarded the trophy, it went to penetrations to 20, and transfer the award was given to them and they won the championship. jon: they won even though you tied the score? >> yes, sir. it was unfortunate lu they're a great team and we
had a great team, it was a great defensive battle the whole game. jon: it was a great play and a great invention. i know, jason, you're somewhat famous now, 3.2 million hits on youtube for that play. good for you. great play. thank you for sharing it with us. jayson garza and john delosentos. jenna: some of our viewers are saying that jon, the oifnive coordinator, should be the new coach of the dallas cowboys. jon: they're looking for someone, aren't they? jenna: there they are, great play, great story. election workers in alaska, now beginning to sort through the ballots, to decide the senate battle between joe miller and write-in candidate lisa murkowski, the challenges ahead before they can declare a winner. and 711 using slurpies to call for bipartisanship in washington. how the tasty beverage is making a real political statement. we have that story just ahead.
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>> reporter: i'm harris faulkner at the braking news desk. i'm watching a cruise ship, the carnival splendor is drifting about 200 miles south of san diego in the waters there. apparently an engine-room fire cut off power to the ship. tugboats and an aircraft air year are arriving at the ship. in the last couple of minutes some interesting news. we're working to get -- this is actually a file photo. we are working to get real video and pictures. the u.s. coast guard is expected to release some. they have been in contact with the 1,167 crew members and more than 3200 passengers on this ship. everybody is said to be okay. they don't have air-conditioning, hot water, hot food. what they are going to do is drop pallets of supplies from this aircraft carrier so that they can make it through the night. they are trying to tow this
incredibly large ship all the way to ensenada. they will bus the passengers back from there. that is the very latest. as soon as we get the pictures and the video we'll bring them to you. jenna: what a blakeing news -- breaking news story that is. hi, i'm jenna lee, it's high noon in jon and i are. jon: the hot stories we are following coast to coast. live reports coming up. first up a deadly epidemic adding to the misery in haiti, steve harrigan. >> reporter: fears that haiti's cholera could spread to the heavily populated capitol have already proved true. jon: a mysterious missile launched off the u.s. co. steve centanni at the pentagon.
>> reporter: apparently this shows a massive missile loss off the coast of southern california. the pentagon scrambling to find out what it's all about. jon: the spirit of liberty honoring america's wounded warriors, adam housley. >> reporter: how you can take part and possibly even buy one of the two jeeps being driven across the country. jon: a full report from each of those reporters coming up this hour on "happening now." right now more harrowing testimony from elizabeth smart in utah as she takes the stand for a second day against the man accused of kidnapping and raping her repeatedly when she was just 14 years old. kris gutierrez is live from the federal courthouse in salt lake city. what are you hearing from elizabeth's gripping testimony, kris. >> reporter: she's been on the stand for roughly an hour and a half this mourn. yesterday she testified for roughly three hours. you can see a picture of her here from an artist's rendering.
she is wearing a bright red jacket, her voice never cracked as she said mitchell kept her captive for nine months. repeatedly raped her. forced her to drink alcohol. she made a trip back to salt lake city with mitchell and his estranged wife. she was told she was not supposed to talk to anybody in country. she was supposed to refer to mitchell and his estranged wife, wanda barzee as mom and dad. she had to remove the blue tow nail polish, she remembers her sister painting her toenails blue, mitchell wanted her to remove that polish because he feared someone would recognize her. she was only 14 years old when all of this happened. jon: what about mitchell? what is his status. >> reporter: he's in the in the courtroom in morning. he kaeufpl into the courtroom singing spiritual hymns.
the judge is not amused by his behavior. he tells his defense team to make sure he's quiet. he doesn't listen to them. he shouts out, and then he's escorted out of the courtroom, that's what happened again this morning. jenna: the president continues his travels in asia, part of a trip meant to build relations with the merging economics -- economies there and to counter the growing power of china. this comment from the president raised some eyebrows this morning. >> we think china, being prosperous and secure is a positive and we are not interested in containing that process, we want china to continue to achieve its development goals. jenna: in the meantime kraoeupb a is one of several -- china is one of several nations criticize america's economic policy after the federal reserve announced it will by $600 billion worth of
treasury bonds. president obama firing back saying a strong u.s. economy is good tore everybody. china isn't really the only one of that critique of the federal reserve. there is a serious debate in the united states. is it constitutional for the feds to buy the bonds in hopes of stimulating the economy. that is a big question that is being tackled in d.c., and on wall street. elizabeth mcdonnell for the fox business network. >> reporter: what is happening here is essentially the fed is helping to buy next year's u.s. deficit spending. we are hearing from ron paul and other representatives that the fed may be pushing the envelope on the federal reserve act which does allow for the fed to buy u.s. treasuries. the massive spending that is going on could ignite inflation. monetary policy does have a leg to it. the economy may be already healed by the time this intervention by the fed takes effect in the market
exacerbating inch tphraeupbs as the dollar continues to drop. that's the fear in the united states, that the fed helping to monatize the debt could raise constitutional issues as the fed continues to push the act from 1913. jenna: it's the falling value of our dollar. how are the markets reacting to these fed moves to buy more u.s. debt to try to speupl late the economy and help our recovery? >> reporter: there is being what is called a trifecta of bubbles forming in not only certain stocks but also bonds and in commodities at a time when 3 billion consumers overseas are coming into the market to buy those commodities. the issue is that the bank of england has basically held off on doing this mind of fiscal
deficit spending. britain is on its own fiscal austerity pass. enrich ard -- that's what richard fisher has said. u.s. is not on that course it continues to deficit spend. what will that mean for the u.s. dollar? monetary policy does have a lagging effect. and will the economy have healed by the time all this louisiana quid today tee is over. not knowing what is financial reform or health reform as many in congress have not read the bills that is what is behind the business uncertainty and jobless rates sticking at 9.6%. jenna: there are so many different sides to this story. elizabeth mcdonald with fox business thank you very much. jon: a full week after the midterm elections and the battle over one illinois house seat remains undecided. team favorite joe walsh is leading melissa bean by a few
hundred votes. we are live with the latest on the count. last i saw, steve they were 350 votes apart? what is left to count? >> reporter: there are some provisionals and some absentees, when you r-r that both walsh and bean collectively got in the neighborhood of 160,000 votes cast for them and it's down to 30, you'd say hey that is a pretty small margin and it is, but it does look right now like the provisions and absentees that they will be looking at a week from today are between 6 and 700. the number may go up in terms of what is produced in terms of absent tees that may come in the mail down in cook county. it's part of this congressional district. we won't know until a week from today. jon: what are the candidates doing about all this? >> reporter: well for mr. walsh who has the benefit of at least a 350-vote lead for right now he's getting prepared fear what might be next up for him.
>> i have been blessed, because the republican state party and some folks in washington have come in, and they are helping us to the hilt to make sure we see this thing true. they are doing a great job of shielding me from that process so i can focus on the transition. >> reporter: specifically we're talking about, essentially attorneys that are watching these absentees coming in and a watchful eye over the folks that are election authorities in three counties that will be counting up the final tallies a week from today. jon. jon: and congresswoman bean, who is what, 350 votes behind? >> reporter: she is 350 votes behind. she is telling supporters, although not directly but indirectly through message through her campaign staff that they should hang in there. she has not spoken publicly since election night, and the message is largely the same, that the vote is not counted as of yet, and there steal needs to be more work done.
she states as of recently as today, this race more than ever remains too close to call. the congresswoman's campaign will continue to work to understand the will of the voters, essentially referring to the vote count. but keep in mind she does have the job as being the representative from the 8th district unless and until that number is certified in favor of mr. walsh in a week from today. jon: steve brown, live in illinois, thank you, steve. jenna: now breaking news. a cholera epidemic in haiti threatening millions in the state's capitol of port de prince. steve harrigan has been following this story from our miami bureau. steve. >> reporter: this is really the worst case scenario, a lot of health workers and aid workers have been worried about it, one confirmed case of cholera in
court de prince. it's a 3-year-old boy. the numbers are expected to rise. san tear reconditions have got even worse from the heavy rains from hurricane tomas. tens of thousands of people are living in horrible conditions in tents. the epidemic has killed 500 people and affected 8,000. chlorea is a water born disease, it's spread by water with fecal matter. it can kill as quickly as one day with vomiting and diarrhea until the body shuts down. in most parts of the world it is easily treated with a simple rehydration program of salt, water and sugar. for many haitains these things simply are not a shraeubl. weave -- available. we've seen aid workers going through the town saying wash your hands. don't drink water from the canal. bottled water is simply out of reach for most as is a bathroom.
jenna: for more on this epidemic in hate tie you can -- haiti you can head to our website. there you will find a slide show that tells the story that steve harrigan was sharing with us. we'll have places on the website of what you can do to help. jon: caught on tape, off the west coast, take a look, see if you can figure out what this is, a missile shooting into the skies the u.s. military says they can't explain this thing. live at the pentagon trying to get some answers. we are also taking your questions for our town hall usa panel. get that into us. log onto foxnews.com, get your questions to us and we'll get .
other over who should become nancy pelosi's second in command. james clyburn is fighting to keep his job as party whip, he's up staeupbz stenni hauer who stands to lose his position to pelosi. we have break down of all these different matches. chris, you mention in the power play that whoever gets this position, second in command really will determine the direction of this party. why so? >> jenna, it's real significant to us for a couple of reasons. one, it tells us a lot about what this new democratic minority looks like. remember, it's more concentrated. they lost a lot of moderate members. they lost half of h-t 54-member blue dog coalition. we know that the democratic caucus is much more liberal now. the question is how much more
liberal is it? in this battle between clyburn and hauer you have a perfect example. hauer is a moderate, and he preaches conservatism. in blue dog you have a liberal who has been a cheerleader for nancy pelosi and a chee cheerler for the obama agenda in a much louder way than hau rerbgs. jenna: you just mentioned the democrats remaining in congress are more liberal than the moderates that were there before. if the party is liberal is it a forgone ton khraougs that -- conclusion that clyburn gets the position. >> no, this is still washington. there are a lot of favors and things to be done. stenni hauer has been effective aeu kraoug favors from his fellow members. a lot of people like the job as hauer did asthma skwroert leader under pelosi. they were happy with him. they felt he went along with the
liberal wing of the party and they are confident he'll do that thing again. why clyburn may be nor eud logically aligned, hauer is a tough old ball and i think he'll be hard to knock off. jenna: one of our viewers wanted to know about nancy pelosi, everyone is talking like she will get that leadership position. is that a forgone conclusion that she will be head of the minority in the house of representatives? >> it is hard to imagine any circumstance under which nancy pelosi does not win this election in this much smaller caucus for minority leader. as we were talking about this it's a more liberal democratic caucus and the kind of members who would have voted against her are much fewer in number now. jenna: because of the inclusion of the new tea party members we talked about there is inch fighting amongst the democrats. what about the republicans in the house? >> they have a tough task. they have the biggest freshman
class that they've had in more than 60 years. they've got a lot of people to teach the ropes. as you point out a lot of these folks ran on antiestablishment platforms. as they come in john boehner and his leadership team among the republicans have a delicate task of saying to the new members, you need to play team ball but we're not trying to coop you. they say it's a gentle coaxing not a command and control. jenna: it would be kind of nice to see them step into a ring and solve this all real easy. it would make good television as well. thank you kr-fp. chris stirewalt with our power play of the day. jon: the midway is home to the start of one special mission. adam housley brings it live in san diego. >> reporter: it is a motion special unshraeuld today. -- unveiled today. you can be a part of it too. we will show you how you could
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jon: a fox news alert, and word out of the department of justice that there will be no prosecution of anyone at the central intelligence agency for the destruction of those interrogation tapes. you right remember that back in two a couple of al-qaida operatives were questioned by the cia, and their interrogations were videotaped. those tapes were later destroyed. according to "the new york times" on order from jose a. rodriguez jr. who was then the head of the clandestine s-frs at the cia. a special prosecutors or a career federal pros ker can was
aeu poepbt -d to lead -- prosecutor to lead investigation into the tape. now the statute of limitations has passed as of yesterday. no one has been prosecuted, no charges have been brought. it appears there will be no criminal prosecution of anyone for the destruction of those cia tapes. jenna: right now what looks like a mystery missile. the u.s. military saying the american homeland was never in danger, but not saying much more about this, after a california tv station captures video of a streaming projectile. you sthaoe right in the middle of your screen? it lit up the nighttime sky and caused a lot of questions to be asked. steve centanni is live with the story. >> reporter: those questions are being asked even as we speak because the pentagon still does not know that there was a missile launch, can't confirm it. if there was one they don't know who did it or how it happened. they are making calls now. the navy is still check.
norad and northcom are still checking to find out what if anything happened. it seems to show something that came from a fairly large missile. the possible suspects are van den burglary air -- vanderb urbs rg air force be,as it wasn't them. who else could it have been, a navy ship, a navy submarine. a private contractor. we checked with the faa, for that they needed a private license and no license was issued last night. at this point it remains a mystery, the pentagon checking with all its sources to find out what the tape is showing and what may have happened. norad says there is no threat to the national security posed by this and obviously nothing was hit and there was no damage. it seemed to be happening off-shore from southern california some 35 miles
off-shore to the northwest of santa kata lean a island. right now it remains a mystery. we'll keep you posted. jenna: that is the best we can do, i guess, all the different points you covered. steve centanni at the passenger, thanks, steve. jon: this thursday is veteran's day in this country. what better way to honor america's heros than a special mission crisscrossing america. it will begin in california traveling through some 43 states and washington d.c. ending at new york harbor just in time for ceremonies there marking ten years since the 9/11 attack. adam housley is live from the deck of the uss midway in san diego with a preview of a great trip. >> reporter: i'm going to step away so you can see the jeep right here. this is the spirit of america jeep. spirit of america foundation is really behind this project. there are two jeeps, a two door and four-door being unveiled on the midway. we have a great shot from a
separate camera outside on the took looking up at the u.s. s. midway. this is a great launching point not only for the jeeps that are being unveiled today but also for the project you're talking about, which is called the crossing of america. it will begin on the friday before memorial day 2011, will drive through 43 states, 12,000 miles eventually ending up on the intrepid in new york harbor where the two jeeps will be auctioned off. you can potentially buy them. they will be driven along the way by celebrities, by sports personalities, by politicians, by even every day persons who can purchase a segment to drive to help raise money, all the money going through the wounded warriors and also for families of fallen soldiers. at the same time jeep dealers across the country will have jeeps just like this for you to purchase. it cost $3,000 to wrap one of these jeeps, most of that money will go to wounded warriors plus
fallen soldiers. we heard from the wife of a lieutenant k-l killed in fallujah. she talked about how important this is for soldiers that come home or don't come home. we're told harrison ford has signed on and a couple of former astronauts. it kicks off the friday before memorial day in 2011. today the jeeps are being unveiled right here on fox. jon: great cause. adam housley, thank you. if you'd like to hear more about the spirit of liberty or contribute to the wounded warriors family support fund you can go to the features and faces section foxnews.com home page, there is more information for you right there. jenna: fighting for a seat in the senate vote by vote, lisa murkowski and joe miller keeping a close eye on absentee ballots as founding -- count gets underway in alaska. plus america is asking town hall, we want your questions, you can log onto our live chat, go to foxnews.com it's right there. harris has seen a lot of new
names today. it looks like we got new visitors. >> reporter: a lot of good names and a pretty hot talker right now it's term limits. donna says with the balance of power changing in congress is it time to push for term limits? is there anybody out there that will finally get this done? go to foxnews.com, click on jon and jenna's beautiful picture, that will take you to our page. you'll see click here for the live chat. what did donna spark by all of this. william said for those people who say term limits are unconstitutional, he writes, if that's so why is it that the president can only serve times. lots of people calling for them. jerry says, term limits and no pensions. it's a hot talker, get your views heard. we want to include you. you're the stars of the show, you know. we'll be right back. are you receiving a payout from a legal settlement or annuity over 10 or even 20 years? call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today.
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jon: every vote counts, of course, and right new in alaska, they have just started counting absentee ballots and write-ins in the still undecided senate race. senator lisa murkowski and her republican challenger, joe miller, are gearing up for a legal battle, this race really could go either way. jill burke is reporter for the alaska dispatch. all right, so jill, joe miller is a tea party candidate, we know how many votes he got, right? >> we do, yes. >> is it possible that
anybody would have written him in? i mean, could he collect more votes from this write-in process? >> that's certainly a possibility. the expectation is that the majority of the write-in votes who represent about 41 percent of the votes cast on election day will go to lisa murkowski's favor but there's always a possibility that somebody chose to write in joe mill eand we are -- miller and we heard recently the division of elections which originally ruled it wouldn't take those votes will in fact count those so he could close the margin with those votes. jon: so write-in ballots are ahead of miller's ballots by 13,000 change and change, 14,000 or so, right? >> right, about 7 percent. jon: and again, the expectation is that most of those are people who are voting for lisa murkowski, but nobody knows until you start the counting process. >> that's right. you have to open the ballots and take a look at them, make sure that that is, in fact, the case, and then there's this question about
how well does the name need to be spelled to count. that's one of the legal issues we expect both sides will face off as this count continues, so write-ins, the count begins tomorrow and today begins the absentee process, the count of those ballots which i believe there are more than 30,000 expected at this point and there could be more. and that certainly is something that miller is looking to to help close his margin with murkowski at this point. jon: lisa murkowski, obviously one of the big political dynasties of alaska politics but joe miller had the support of former governor sarah palin and tea party support as well. how many ballots would have to be thrown out, all together, for joe miller to win this race? >> that's the tricky math question, because we still have the absentee ballots coming in. assuming everything stays flat, remains the same and we have this 13 1/2 thousand
difference between the two, about 15-16 percent of the votes would have to bed out in order for miller to close that gap. he thinks that it's a possibility. it's a long shot but he's cautiously optimistic it could happen, he points to previous write-in races where at least 7-8 percent of the votes have been tossed out and he thinks that bodes well for him and he certainly is in it to win it and has legal teams standing by as does lisa murkowski to ensure that the votes that they believe should count do count and those that don't aren't included. jon: this is an awful lot like that minnesota race, two years ago, that had norm coleman, incumbent, versus al franken or maybe even shades of george w. bush versus al gore. >> right. and in fact, we have an attorney from both of those races coming in on lisa murkowski's side of things and ginsburg is up here advising her senior counsel and may be on hand to consult throughout this
process and one of the things he said during the coleman-franken count was that they have a fantastic voter system in minnesota but it all comes down to the human factor and the human factor is where you really start to see some of the questions and the legal questions that will arise, and they're expected to arise during this count, to be frank. jon: our voters are fascinated with politics, they're going to be watching this with you, jill burke from the alaska dispatch, thank you. >> uh-huh. jenna: lots of questions coming into the newsroom from our viewers about a lot of these races. well, this one race that remains and also about term limits. got a big conversation happening now on our chat at foxnews.com about term limits. let's talk to some of our panelists about that, david novella is from gopac that trains republican leaders, richard goodstein is democratic political consultant, an adviser for hillary clinton's presidential campaign and charlie hurt is washington bureau chief for the "new york post". i won't ask any of you about the term limits for your jobs but we can talk about,
well, for politicians. charlie, take a stab at this from donna, she wants to know is there anyone that has the momentum behind them to ask and challenge this term limit question that seems to come up after every election? >> yeah, it's a good question, and especially, at a time when conservatives have sort of made advances in congress. it's usually the conservative voters who are most eager to see term limits in place. you know, obviously, there are -- there will be a lot of tea party members that are joining congress who have spoken very favorably about term limits, although not quite as much as i think we saw in 1994. but the problem that they keep running up against is obviously the whole constitutional issue, and the argument that well, there are term limits in place, in that as soon as voters get sick and tired of politicians they can bounce
them after two years, four years, whatever, so it's sort of a built-in term limit. jenna: charlie, not to interrupt, but that's what jim in our chat was bringing up, he said hey, if you don't like it, then you can actually vote against the candidate that keeps getting reelected after every single two-year term or whatever it is. richard, do you think that -- i mean, is that the natural term limits that we have out there? >> i think that solution actually is that, but it's having district lines drawn in a way that makes races more competitive. the problem that we have now, jenna, as you know, is that so many of these districts are drawn so that you know it's going to be a democrat or republican and the real challenge that there is is during a primary and that is frustrating to voters who want to see real competition, so yes, voting people out is a solution but a better solution that's certainly constitutional and could actually happen if both parties set their mind to it would be commit to go make sure the districts are drawn independently and without regard to partisan
bias. jenna: interesting. david, let's tackle this question from wayne. wayne wanted to know, what's going to happen to the moderates. david, you have an interesting side on this since you're looking to talk to future republican leaders. what do you think is going to happen to the moderates, and in either party? >> they're going to have a big role in the republican party just as the tea party and the conservatives are going to have in our party. look, our party is not run by nancy pelosi, so everybody can have a voice and everybody can have a say, and the way leader boehner is talking about running the house, not only are moderate republicans and conservative republicans and tea party republicans going to have a choice -- a voice, but so are democrats. they're going to have a voicing committee and they're going to be able to talk on the floor. so you know, everybody is going to have the opportunity to espouse their views and make their points known on the important issues before congress. jenna: richard, that's what not -- that's not what we're hearing, we're hearing the
parties are becoming more conservative and more liberal with the blue dog democrats getting voted out in this election. is there still a place for moderates here? >> first of all there aren't that many moderates left and frankly, my concern is if you're somebody like olympia snowe and you look in the mirror, you see mike castle, you see somebody who politically is very much like you, who got taken out by people, in this case, the tea party, and that's the concern, so that much of these people, i think, senator snowe is an example, wants to be in the middle, because that's where her voters are, that's where a lot of the public is. politically, primaries are the weapon that people on the polls use to pick out people they don't like and that, frankly, more than anything else, kind of militates against moderation, not a good sign. but i don't think it's really deniable for the next year or two as a leading factor. jenna: david, richard, charlie, stand by. we have breaking news and will get back to our panel
in a moment. jon. jon: this fox news alert, jenna. farouk ahmed, the virginia man who was recently arrested and charged with trying to bomb the metro subway system in washington, d.c., he has pleaded not guilty. he's told a judge he wants to have a jury trial and he waived his right to a speedy trial, so he will be put on trial sometime next year. he was arrested after working with some informants who said he wanted to bomb the entrances to the metro station around the pentagon. farooque ahmed will face trial sometime next year in federal court.
president obama in 2012. plus the west borough baptist church, folks, went to ruin another military funeral, a town in missouri said no. what happened next will warm your heart, and the woman behind it is here. plus the pentagon says it does not know what was in the skies, firing toward california last night. it appeared to look like a missile. and the pentagon will not confirm that there is no threat to the homeland. breaking news, top of the hour. see you at 1-bg p.m. jon: let's get gak to our america's asking town hall david, david vela is executive director of gopac, an organization that supports republican candidates, richard goodstein, democratic political consultant, i can't speak today, charlie hurt is washington bureau chief for the "new york post". charlie, i'm going to start with you. f.c. steud baker wants to know when will the ethics trials for maxine waters and charlie rangel be held in the congress and if found guilty what are the consequences. >> those trials are set to
begin on monday. of course, right now both sides are kind of keeping quiet, but i -- the assumptions among reporters is that they are negotiating lawyers for waters and for rangel are probably negotiating with ethics committee lawyers about some sort of settlement so that they can avoid a trial. obviously, democrats would like to avoid a trial and this is the only time they have the authority to sort of negotiate because as you know in two months, republicans will control things and i think if they have not resolved these issues by the time the republican congress comes in, i think you're going to see a very large book thrown at both of these lawmakers by republicans who have vowed to clean up the corruption or the appearance of corruption that has been going on for so long in recent years. jon: richard, here's a question hot off the computer for you from sheila
m. is there a way to create a legal limit for the number of pages allowed in a bill that is presented to congress? i think there's so much frustration out there that these bills get so complex. >> well, it t happens when you deal with very complex subjects, whether it's dealing with climate change or revamping in many respects our health care system, those bills do get long because the alternative is short bills to turn things over to regulators who weren't elected by anybody. i mean, somebody has to set the rules of the road and what congress decides to do, they like frankly doing it themselves as opposed to turning over to the regulatory agencies so i have a hunch that your viewer given the choice would rather have the elected member of congress do it rather than somebody they can't identify in the balance of an agency, but no, i don't think there's any way legislate i, constitutionally or otherwise, that we can limit the length of bills, and i'm not positive that everybody would actually think that's necessarily a good thing.
jon: here's a question for you david, from susan moore, they wants to know with the election behind us and republicans promising to lower the debt, why is it so difficult? >> well, you still have a lot of people that like spending money here in washington, and ultimately, it's going to take a congress who's going to get serious about cutting spending. the house is certainly showing signs of that, a number of the young new chairmen in the house are all committed to bringing spending under control, and i believe you're going to see a renewed interest in the senate to finally start looking at bringing spending under control. one, there's now 47 republicans, and two, you're going to have a number of democrats who are going to be up in 2012, who are going to want to be able to go back to their constituents and say look, we got spending under control. ultimatelyets going to have to start with congress. actually in the house, they start the financial bill. so last week's election is a good step in the right direction. now for viewers, though,
they've got to stay on congress and keep the pressure on them to make them cut spending. jon: if our town hall is any indication, they are ready to do that, david avella, richard goodstein, charlie hurt, thank you all. >> thank you. jenna: we have two words for you, slurpie summit. what's happening? we have more on that story next.
>> i want to ask if you're going to have john boehner over for a slurpie. >> i might serve a slurpie, they're delicious drinks! >> [laughter] >> the perfect summit. that's good. i like it. jenna: the president had a big endorsement there. could a frozen drink have what it takes to cool down the hot partisan in washington -- partisanship? washington? seven hundred eleven is
launching the slurpie unity tour, a caravan of slurpie trucks is on its way to washington now and they have bipartisanship in mind. laura guardian is the senior brand -- gordon is the senior brand director for 711. what's this all about? >> when the president says that your drink is delicious, you simply have to follow up with an opportunity to say we'd be happy to serve those delicious drinks at a slurpie summit, and provide slurpie machines for the white house if there's an opportunity! jenna: so in your slurpie trucks headed to d.c. you have the choice of red, white or blue slurpies or you're calling it the harmonious new flavor of purple for the people. now, john boehner said he would prefer merlot, by the way, for a meeting with the president. so is merlot is secret ingredient for purple for the people? >> i can't say that our slurry is formulated with merlot but we both have the same idea, a cool, refreshing drink that only
makes you feel g that's what purple for the people is all about. jon: exactly what is the flavor that goes with the purple slurpie? >> a delicious grape flavor but also a reference to the fact that when you take red and blue and combine them, you end up with purple, which is why the name purple for the people. jenna: so the truck is said to be stop thrg november 18th, we know that's when the president invited the republican leadership to the white house to have a friendly meeting, so on the way, tell our viewers what they might be able to taste if they run into own of your trucks. >> well, anyone who is in one of the cities where the trucks are stopping will have an opportunity to taste red, white, blue, or purple for the people, and have an opportunity to be interviewed by our video crew who's really out there talking to people about how they feel about unity, and for those people that aren't in those markets, you have the opportunity to follow us
on facebook.com/slurpie and i want to reiterate, this is about having fun and we're out there giving away full sized free samples of slurpies because we think this is an opportunity to get on the road and share slurpies and purple for the people in unity with our very loyal slurpie enthusiasts. jenna: it sounds like a real fine idea, thank you, laura gorton with 711 and you see that truck driving by. jon: kind of hard to miss! jenna: a slurpie on the way, in case you want one. >> you won't miss it. jon: texas lawmakers, bringing arizona-style immigration laws to the floor in the lone star state. the controversial new proposals on the legislature's agenda there, just ahead.
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