tv FOX and Friends First FOX News October 17, 2012 5:00am-6:00am EDT
>> good morning. i am heather nauert. >> i am heather childers. it is wednesday october 17th. thank you for watching "fox friends -- "fox & friends first". >> president obama and mitt romney squared off in the second presidential debate. the candidates hitting each other really hard through out the night on so many issues facing our country right now. >> we have some of the most intense exchanges for you in just a moment. what everyone is saying
president obama called the benghazi attack a terrorist attack right away. >> the day after the attack governor i stood in the rose garden and i told the people in the world that we were going to find out what happened that this was an act of terror and i also said we are going to hunt down those who committed this crime. >> i think it's interesting the president just said something which is on the day after the attack he went in the rose garden and said this was an act of terror. you said in the rose garden the day after the attack it was an act of terror. it was not a spontaneous demonstration. >> please proceed, governor. >> i want to make sure we get that for the record. it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi an act of terror. >> he did in fact, sir.
let me call it an act of terror. he did call it an act of terror. it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea of there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. you are correct about that. >> the administration indicated that this was a reaction to a video and was a spontaneous reaction. it took them a long time to say this was a terrorist act by a terrorist group. to suggest -- am i incorrect in that regard? on sunday your secretary -- the ambassador of the united nations went on the shows and talked about a spontaneous -- >> i want to move you on. >> i want to do that, too. i just want to make sure we have a chance to get questions answered. >> definitely an intense moment there. how did the white house really
respond to the attack on our consulate. steve sen to is following this one. it can get complicated for those who are not following it closely. >> looking back at the comments made by the president and susan rice in the hours days and weeks after the attack the killing was referred to a number of different ways. as she pointed out during the debate he did appear in the rose garden the day after the attack and here's what he said. >> no act of terror will ever shake the result of this great nation. alter that character or eclipse the light of the values we stand for. today we mourn for more americans who represent the very best of the united states of america. we will not waiver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act and make no mistake, justice will be done. >> but just four-days lart
ambassador rice made the rounds in the sunday talk shows and told a different story. best assessment we have today is in fact this was not a preplanned pre-meditated attack. >> she said the latest intelligence said it was a spontaneous attack by a mob protesting the anti muslim video. the story was people grew outside of the consulate it grew very violent and those with extremist ties came with weapons which are quite common in post revolutionary libya and it all spun out of control. state department spokeswoman, white house press secretary and other administration officials did little to discredit that assessment until september 19th when matt olson director of the counter-terrorism center testified at a senate hearing and he said yes they were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy.
here is more from obama and others after that. >> what we have seen over the last week, week and a half is what we have seen in the past where there's an offensive video or cartoon directed at the prophet mohammed. this is obviously something that then is used as an excuse by some to carry out inexcusable violent acts. >> there are no words or excuse for killing innocent. there's no video that justifies an attack on an embassy. >> there's no doubt the kind of weapons that were used, the ongoing assault, that it wasn't just a mob action. >> matt olson has said it was a terrorist attack. the president was still talking about a response to the video.
it is a little bit confusing. >> you got all that? >> yes. >> this moment about libya a big talker this morning. >> will this be a big issue in the presidential race going forward. here's what charles krauthammer has to say about it. >> on explaining libya yet it will be a huge problem but it will be a huge problem in a few days. right now in the context of the debate he got away with it because there was no actual response that i think swung it in a way that was incorrect and unfair. >> now candy krau lee did speak after the debate and said that romney was in the right and i just think that he picked the wrong word. that's what she said. make sure you tune into fox and friends later this morning because they will be getting reaction to this controversy
from the obama campaign advisor robert gibbs at 7:00 a.m. eastern and the presidential candidates not only sparring over libya the tepgss were high and candidates were aggressive. take a look at the other heated exchanges exchangeses. >> that's not what you have done in the last four years. that's the problem. in the last four years you cut permits and licenses. >> not true. >> how much did you cut them by? >> we have produced more oil. >> how much did you cut licenses on federal land and waters? >> here's what we did. there was a bunch of oil companies. >> i had a question how much did you cut them by. >> i know you want to keep detroit bankrupt. you took general motors bankrupt. you took chrysler bankrupt. when you say i wanted to take
the auto industry bankrupt you actually did. i think it's important to know that was a process that was necessary to get those companies back on their feet sthoekd start hiring people. that's what i recommended and that's what happened. >> let me give the president a chance. go ahead. >> candy, what governor romney said just isn't true. he wanted to take them into bankruptcy without providing them anyway to stay open. we would have lost a million jobs. don't take my word for it. take the executives at gm and chrysler. they will tell you his prescription wasn't going to work. >> a lot to talk about this morning. that leads us to our question of the day. who won last night's debate. send the comments over to us. tweet them at fox friends first or shoot us an e-mail at firstname.lastname@example.org.
they already started on that last night and we have plenty of tweets. >> that's the top five stories making news for you at this hour. khalid shaikh mohammed was cleared to wear a camouflage vest in court. although the ruling forbids him from wearing any present day uniforms the decision does not stop the al qaeda leader from wearing ones no longer in use. day three of pretrial hearings resume again this morning. >> unbelievable. >> now to a fox news exclusive. did the director of the secret service lie to congress about the agency's prostitution scandal? multiple sources telling fox news that mark sullivan knew that one of the prostitutes came up in a criminal data base for ties to a drug cartel. another prostitute may have also had criminal connection.
sullivan told senators there was no evidence of any criminal ties. the inspector general has yet to release the report on the scandal and would not comment. >> people in maine shaken and shocked by a rare 4.0 magnitude earthquake. the epicenter was 20 miles west of portland. folks even felt it all of the way in boston. >> i am trying to eat we are hearing rumbling i am chasing the food down the table. >> now we have pillars that are broke. i have two cement pillars and cracks in the granite. >> there were no reports of injuries. the largest quake ever reported was magnitude 5.1. that was back in 1904. >> raiding the compound pharmacy in massachusetts that was linked to the deadly meningitis outbreak. 16 people have died so far.
233 are sick after they received a tainted steroid shots that were made at the new england company. officials didn't say what was found during that raid. but investigators -- we know they are looking into whether or not the company violated state and federal laws by mass producing drugs without prescriptions. a tearful farewell to arlen specter. his funeral taking place in pen valley, pennsylvania. vice president biden served among those attending. he had an incredible will. who else would have won 5 elections three and 6 years. this is anybody in public life you can say it this way. >> specter guide at the adied ae of 82 after battling non
hodgkin's lymphoma. >> first degree weather update with maria molina. she is here with a look at your current temperatures this morning. she is wearing blue and green. feels chilly out there. >> good morning everyone. we are talking about cool temperatures especially portions of the east in new york city down no raleigh north carolina. temperatures in the 40s. you will need to pull out all of the jackets and sweaters. daybreak we are relatively warm minneapolis 51. 55 chicago and mid 60s from kansas city down into portions of texas. the reason why it is warming is we have a front that is pushing eastward ahead of cold fronts. you get winds out of the south that pulls in some of the warmer air. that will be firing up storm, large hail damaging winds and icy tornadoes possible along with strong winds with that system. >> maria thank you so much. it is 13 minutes after the hour.
the president showed more energy during the debate. there are undecided voters that are still not convinced they will vote for him. listen to this. >> deliver in the two debates didn't explain anything, didn't show what he would do for the future. >> that is just a clip from frank runts' group of undecided voters. we will have more coming up. >> after paying the price and sacrificing for her country in iraq one university trying to make a young vet pay even more. her story up next.
following the shooting of a female canadian border agent. american man driving into canada shot her in the neck while she was in her boots. he died of a self-inflicted gun shot wound. >> making history but not in a good way. for the first time the $15 billion borrowing limit from the u.s. treasury. they must rely on revenue. in june they were facing a $5.2 billion loss. we are getting reaction from you the voters from last night's presidential debate. frank luntz talking to a focus group of undecided voters. here's their reaction. >> how many voted for barack obama in 2008 raise your hand. a whole lot of these people. how many are staying with barack
obama in 2012. how many switched and are now supporting mitt romney in 2012. raise your hand if you are romney people. sean we had a remarkable change here. i want to know what made you vote for romney tonight? >> forceful presidential. >> confident and realistic. >> presidential. >> presidential and enthusiastic, our next president. dyno winner. >> sincere. >> steady and articulate. >> you voted for obama in 2008. >> yes. >> what is it? >> he seems defensive and we are not staying on track. >> you voted for obama. >> just didn't deliver and the two debates he didn't explain anything. he didn't show what he would do for the future. >> coming up you will hear more from the focus group and get real time reaction for key
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can no longer smoke inside their duplexes, condos and apartments. smokers say this new law amounts to tyranny. supporters believer it will pass in other cities. one person is dead this morning and three others injured following a crash of two trucks in the state of ohio. the truck hauling a trailer ran a stop sign and was hit by the semi. the truck slammed into a home and sparked a fire. amazingly the woman inside the home wasn't hurt. let's talk about energy. >> from bankruptcy to if is car automotive car fires. there are signs some of president obama's green initiatives have failed as candidates try to spell out their energy policy for the next four years last night. i will get america and north america energy independent i will do it by more drilling more permits and licenses.
we are going to bring that pipeline in to canada. how in the world the president said no to the pipeline i will never know. >> we have to build the energy source of the future not just next year, but 10 years from now 20-years from now. that's why we invested in solar wind and bio fuels energy efficient cars. the government used tax dollars to support certain ventures brings us to our bank on this this morning. lauren simonetti has another look at energy project going bankrupt. which one are we talking about? >> a 123 lek tick c electric ca batteries. it got a grant from the energy department to do so which drawn 129 million so far and does not have to repay the rest. it has gotten $125 million in michigan tax credits to build its batteries and move the u.s. further into green energy. we are not buying electric cars therefore we don't need the
batteries. nissan and chevy volt sales 250,000 electric vehicles have been sold this year. they filed chapter 11 following assets to johnson controls for $125 million. it is the second battery company out of 30 to go bankrupt. of the 26 clean energy projects that also received stimulus three filed for chapter 11. solyndra as we all know abound>> president obama touted a lot of those initiatives last night if you listen today. >> got through 30 minutes of it. if only we had the money to buy one of those if is kariye -- fiskar cars. >> we are hours from the most heated debates in recent memory. it happened hours ago. who won?
mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you fod a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know.
>> welcome back to "fox & friends first". i am heather childers. >> i am heather nauert. round two of the presidential debate turn will into a real slum fest last night between president obama and mitt romney. the most talked about moment from the moderator. doug luzader is following this angle for us. he is live in washington can mo with more. i think we are talking about libya here. >> this image may say it all. most of the questions came to deal with domestic issues but it was an exchange over libya that is getting all of the tanks this morning. it started with the voter asked the president about security failures that led to the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in libya last month. that raised questions about why the administration initially insisted the attack was about an
anti muslim movie. the president said last night he immediately called it an act of terror. here's what followed. >> it's interesting the president just said something which is on the day after the attack he went in the rose garden and said this was an act of terror. you said in the rose garden the day after the attack it was an act of terror. it was not a spontaneous demonstration. >> please proceed, governor. >> i want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi an act of terror. >> he did in fact, sir. let me call it an act of terror. >> he did call it an act of terror. it did as well take two weeks or so. >> was the moderator correct there when she interjected the president had called it an act of terror. here's what the president said in the wake of the attack.
>> no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation alter that character or eclipse the light of the values we stand for. there are no words that excuse the killing of innocents. there is no video that justifies an aak on an embassy. >> the romney campaign points out while the president did mention act of terror early on he didn't specifically say what happened in benghazi was an act of terror. later had the movie motive doubling down on that before the story finally changed. the moderator went on to say quote he meaning mitt romney was right in the main i think he just picked the wrong word. a lot of rea-is coming on this morning about the exchange in libya. >> reported for weeks after the attack the president and the administration stood by their claim this was a spontaneous act
of terror. who was right and who was wrong last night. here is chris wallace's analysis. >> on the question of libya i think you have to say both the president and romney were wrong. the president was wrong because he seemed to imply that he had declared the attack in benghazi an act of terror the next day. he was clearly stunned romney saying well you went off to a fundraiser in las vegas. no i was in the rose garden and i declared it an act of terror. all he said was no acts of terror will shake the resolve of this great nation and didn't refer specifically to that at all. romney was wrong in that he tried to say look you have given up the game here because you declared it an act of terror on september 12th but susan rice went out and said it wasn't an act of terror. i am not sure either of those are true. >> fox and friends will be joined by robert gibbs at
7:00 a.m. eastern this morning with more reaction for you. now to other highlights. in the debate they were both very aggressive and tins hitting each other hard on the issues. listen. >> think about what the governor just said. he said when i took office the price of gasoline auz 1.80, 1.86. why is that? because the economy was on the verge of collapse. we were about to go through the worst recession since the great depression. as a consequence some of the same policies governor romney is promoting. >> why am i raising taxes on the middle class? under the four years they have been buried. i want to help the middle class. ly not reduce the share that is being paid by the highest income taxpayers. i will not under any circumstances increase taxes on the middle class. >> i will believer what he said behind closed doors that 47 percent of the country considered themselves victims,
who refuse personal responsibility. think about who he was talking about. folks on social security who worked all their lives. veterans who sacrificed for this country. students who were out there trying to hopefully advance their own dreams. >> in the nature of the campaign some campaigns are focused on attacking a person rather than prescribing their own future and the things they like to do. in the course of that i think the president's campaign has tried to characterize me as someone who is very different than who i am. i care about 100 percent of the american people. i want 100 percent of the american people to have a bright and prosperous future. >> who won the debate? we have republican strategist bill fadia and consultant. how would you grade mitt romney both on style and substance last night? >> i think governor romney did an outstanding job on substance
for sure. if you give the president his due the president scored a lot of points on style last night mainly because the bar was set so low because of his terrible performance a couple weeks ago. as far as the substance of it mitt romney came out swinging on energy and i think that's going to help him in the swing state in pennsylvania. >> i feel like republicans are going to agree with you on that. democrats are going to say the president won. marjorie what about the independents? those are the ones each candidate really needed to win last night. >> this is the first time we saw the president turnout in these debates. we saw two potential presidential candidates standing there duking it out. who they might have lost are the women. there was a level of aggression we have not seen from either candidate and truly them sparring on stage and some of the comments about binders and how they were offhandedly referring to women a lot of people feeling sour on both
candidates to be quite on nest. >> you think women care so much about the over all tone or they care more about the issues? >> there have been independent polls for the last few months seems like there's a poll every day. in recent polling half of women voters say the number one issue for them is the economy. so it's not about style. i think we are doing women a disservice and discrediting them saying they are going to focus on the stale of this debate. for women and membn and voert ts is about bringing the economy back having a strong economic policy. >> issues that got a lot of tanks. that is benghazi. candy went on to say mitt romney said the right thing but used the wrong words. what do you both think will be the headline coming out of this? a pro romney the administration didn't come out with the facts soon enough or against romney.
marjorie, start with you. >> we are losing this point on the whole discussion. who is losing and nit-picking about libya is the american people. the focus is trying to figure out what really happened. >> we know what happened. finally the administration admitted it it was a terror attack and it was planned. >> i am not sure what nit-picking does to serve the debate. mitt romney made the wrong point he got called out by the moderator. what he was eluding to was wrong his choice of words. >> nit-picking on details. we are talking about american lives in a consulate overseas that was over run because this president has failed to have a sound foreign policy that reinvigorates american strength. he let it out and he got called on it. >> who do you think wins on the headline on that very issue. >> mitt romney for sure. >> i think obama had it on
libya. >> thank you so much, bill and marjorie. talk to you again soon. >> time now for your 5@5:30. top five stories making news at this hour. the up preem court handing the obama campaign a victory in the critical swing state of ohio. denying the request to end early voting except for military voters the friday before the election. voters say that it would reduce voter fraud and he's the burden on election officials. 15 states also filed a brief supporting ohio arguing that it did not impact the ability to vote. the obama campaign challenged the law saying it would prevent voters from casting early ballots. polls show early voters tend to vote democratic. >> food stamps hitting an all-time high this year. enrollment in the government program hit a record in the month of july with more than 36 -- 46 million americans on food stamps.
10 years ago about 19 million people collected food stamps. currently more than 1 in 7 americans is on this program. the former driver of osama bin laden off the hook. a u.s. federal appeals court through out the conviction for supporting terrorism in a 3-0 ruling. now the court says providing material support for terrorism is not a crime under international law when he worked for al qaeda. prosecutors argued he transported weapons and helped bin laden escape following the september 11th attack. there's an arak war veteran being denied instate tuition price at a university even though she lives in that state. haley perez is her name. she says the university of north carolina told her she didn't qualify because she didn't pay state income taxes while she was serving our country in iraq. when the army transferred her to
the state of texas. but perez was still paying taxes and a morton her home in north carolina. she started an on-line petition to get the school to change its policies on how treats student veterans. >> my home state of north carolina come on. get with it. >> the 2013 super bowl half time performer has been revealed. >> beyonce set to take the stage february 3rd at the mercedes benz super dome in new orleans. this will be her second super bowl pier rance. the 2004 grammy winner sang the national anthem in her hometown of houston. that is our 5@5:30. >> she puts on a good show, doesn't she? right along with maria molina. always puts on a good show. >> good to see you all. we have great news if you live
in the center of the country because we have a strong system pushing eastward. it will be producing a lot of rain. also areas of thunderstorms stretching from parts of wisconsin and eastern portions of texas. some of that could produce flash flooding around the great lakes into the midwest. we are also talking about the possibility of severe weather from some of these storms across southern illinois missouri down into parts of mississippi and also northern louisiana. large hail damaging wind gusts and isolated tornadoes will be possible. if you live out here you have got to stay alert through out the day today. it does include the city of memphis also jackson and mississippi. we are going to see a lot of wind with the storm system wind gusts up to 65 miles per hour possible. wind advisories in dakotas into oklahoma. many of the people will be experiencing the strong winds through out the day today into at least early thursday. keep that in mind it will be very windy out there across the plains as the storm continues to push eastward it should be
impacting the east coast as we head into the answerend of the workweek on friday. northeast to southeast you will be dealing with that storm coming up shortly to wrap the workweek. ahead of that system warm in texas 92 will be the high temperature today. in san antonio well above average 86 in dallas for a high. north east cool day highs in the 50s and 60s. >> health he were and heather. >> it is 43 minutes after the hour. coming up where undecided voters found a little bit of an agreement last night right here. have our country move forward and get back to the good times we need to have our job creator create jobs. >> who exactly did they think would be able to do that? also this story ahead. crowded house, staggering data on the number of students and earleds coming back home.
yeah. ♪ i'll help you carry on... ♪ >> welcome back. 46 after the hour of the let's span the globe to see what headlines are making stories overseas. the pakistani girl we told you about her fight fogger her life after being shot in the head by members of the taliban. they are beginning to plan reconstruct i have surgery. two people claiming to be family members were raised and questioned by police. the girl was shot last week because she spoke out on education rights for women. mexico pounded with rain and 60 mile per hour winds.
they may mick land hall today before reading back the good news it is slowing down. we are hearing from undecided voters from the state of nevada. they were part. focus group. here's what they thought about the president and the governor's responses on tax policies. >> i want to bring the rates down simplify the tax codes and have middle income taxpayers to have lower taxes. the reason is middle income taxpayers have been buried over the past four years. you have seen income go down even as gas prices have gone up.
health insurance premiums up 2,500 food prices up, utility buyses up. middle insome families have been crushed so i want to get relief to middle income families. >> it was one of the rare moments republicans and democrats agreed. why. >> he is talking about tax policies to be an economic issue? >> it is. it's more important. i am not a job creator but for me to have our country move forward and to get back to the good times we need to have a job creator to create jobs. >> we will have more on this through out the morning. the next and final debate this coming monday in florida. the foreign policy will be the focus of that one. >> almost 10 minutes to the top of the hour. a long running halloween tradition at nyc canceled thanks
to occupy protestors. we will tell you about that. >> the last chance to answer the question of the day. who won last night's debate? we will read your e-mails and tweets coming up next. first let's check in with peter doocy. >> you have a jam packed show don't you. >> what was yub your first clue? >> we have frank luntz, dick morris will be stopping by. from the romney camp we have governor bobby jindal and from obama we have surrogate and former spokesperson for the white house robert gibbs. we are doing fact checking because there were whoppers last night. we will separate fact from friction as fox and friends get started 9 minutes from nright nw on the fox news channel.
>> good morning. just a few minutes before the top of the hour. here's a quick look at the headlines for you. another sign of tough economic times. according to a new survey out of 1,000 homeowners one-third expect grown children or aging parents to move in with them. 22 percent of young adults were living at home in 2010. that's up from 16 percent in the year 2000. in case you care about this, the speculation is over. mario lopez and chloe kardashian are the x factor's co-teachers hosts. they will make their debut next month. >> give you all the news you need to know in the morning. now it is time for your brew on this responses. we wanted to get your take on the second presidential debate. we asked you this. who do you think won last night's debate. >> karen writes in, romney won, obama didn't explain anything.
romney sounded like a man who could run the country and fix this country. he's the right leader for the job. >> michelle writes, obama had a slight edge on delivery. romney slaughtered him on facts, reality and substance. >> brian says hands down the president. he came back swinging and has now shown america that he is a tough president when he needs to be. finally chuck said it is a draw because the less will not be moved anything that transpired. the truly undecided will remain so until the last debate. >> what chuck said is what our political panel said the independents. >> thank you who responded. keep the comments coming through out the morning. >> it is 5 minutes before the hour. coming up, better to walk than try to get a ride from this cabbie. it is all caught on tape. >> can you figure out the recwo of the day? stick around for the answer. >> we have to show you the letters first. >> we don't have the letters. how about that?
>> two minutes to the top of the hour. we take a look at the good, the bad and ugfirst the good. 72 is the new 30. a 72 year old has the same likelihood of dying in one year as a 30 year old hunter gatherer did from 1.3 million years ago . a long-running celebration in a new york city church cancelled thank to occupiers. 25 to 50 people have been camping outside leaving trash and causing trouble with employees. the church didn't think it would be safe for the kids to trick-or-treat there this year. finally the ugly. a cabdriver tosses a passenger out of his car and across the treat. the driver claims that