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on trent green, jamie, greg gumbel. 29-0 leave. "60 minutes" will be seen in the entirety immediately following the game except on the west coast where it will be seen at its regularly scheduled time. scott pellly is in paris. further break down ever the horrific events that have happened there. 5:45 and counting on the clock. ball inches away from the end zone. osweiler, hillman to the end zone for the touchdown.
denver broncos. >> trent: rung often the left side of the broncos offensive line able to get into the end zone. >> greg: they will go for two points here. with 5:27 to play. osweiler. going to run for it. hit hard at the three yard line. eric berry coming up from his safety position to put a lick on the quarterback. >> greg: the score remains 29-6 kansas city.
all likelihood on-side kick coming from the denver broncos. 12-play, 80 yard scoring drive led by brock osweiler. injury that jamie spoke of, sean smith, his return is now questionable the rest of this game. there's the on-side kick, traveled ten yards picked up by the chiefs. anthony sherman. thursday on nfl networks, marcus mariota leads the titans to afc south clash with jacksonville jaguars thursday night football thursday at 8:00 only on nfl network. jacksonville jaguars we mentioned earlier with most impressive win on the road at
>> trent: you have two young quarterbacks exciting to watch. their regards are indicating that the teams are having success as you mentioned grow, jacksonville getting big win on 53-yard fieldgoal as time expires. >> greg: hit you with this one this is first question that is going to hit gary kubiak in the postgame. do you start peyton manning next week at chicago? >> trent: you definitely start peyton manning next week. this is peyton manning's football team. i think just wasn't a good day for him. yes, he set all-time passing record, that's an amazing accomplishment but look at his numbers on the day, just didn't have it today. i think it's important for him moving forward to -- sometimes games like this happen, get ready to roll i'm sure peyton will come backfired up. >> greg: oddity it doesn't happen to the teams often. >> trent: it's unheard of for peyton manning. the type of fay is unheard of"
two losses in row last week against indianapolis and here today against kansas city. they definitely have some things they need to address on offensive side of the ball. >> greg: peyton manning had gone against the kansas city chiefs 15 sometimes in his career, beaten them 14 times. only loss -- to you. >> trent: you know what, that was -- we had played him playoffs in 2003 there was game where neither team punted. peyton was able to come away, indianapolis colts able to come away with the win that day. following year in 2004 we got time on halloween it was one of those shoot-up kind of games. >> greg: let's flashback. peyton threw for 472 yards,
chiefs were led by you, you threw for 389 and three touchdowns. 35-35. peyton's numbers, five touchdowns, one interception and trent green, let's see, 389, three touchdowns and no interceptions. >> trent: tony gonzalez he's going to be in the hall of fame for reason i was smart enough tootle to right guys. >> greg: i can't tell you how proud i am sitting here with you. >> greg: cairo son toes to attempt 48 yarder. andy reid going to call time out. on the far side. stops the clock with 2:57 remaining much tonight on cbs begins with "06 minutes" scott pelley arting from paris, followed by two episode of
"madam secretary ] good wife" and "csi: cyber"only cbs. cairo santos for his sixth fieldgoal. a game earlier where he had seven fieldgoals in a game. today was able to put together a very good day. take advantage of the field position the chiefs defense was able to give the offense all day. >> greg: how many times have we seen a team really lament the fact that they go deep into territory come away with no points. >> trent: it is. how well the chiefs defense was playing today i know wire talking over the top here but fact that the defense was playing so well they were getting so many turnovers. having that field position that's for fieldgoals when that's type of game. >> greg: cairo santos. five fieldgoals today. peyton manning, five completed
santos from 48 yards out. high snap. off to the right. dustin colquitt got it back down, santos pushed to the right. let's get another update from new york city. >> james: in the meadowlands. >> bill: josh brown gives giants two-point lead. with 1:47 to go. no timeouts. can he do it again? >> james: back to greg and trent. >> greg: they're saying giant stadium. uh-oh. >> trent: you give 1:47 he doesn't have any timeouts. but he's done whole lot more with lot less time. >> greg: score 29-6. 3:08 to play.
own 38 yard line. going deep down the far sideline. contact is made. penalty marker is thrown. marcus peters on cody latimer. >> referee: pass interference. defense. no. 22. spot foul, automatic first down. >> greg: marcus peters is involved in almost everything today, isn't he. >> trent: he's excitable player. had chance to talk to him in the past, heck of a young player. just contact down the field with the ball in the air this is easy call for the official to make. hold our i can't remember it all you want they're going to call it. >> greg: andy reid pulled his young corner back off the field replaced with steven nelson. >> trent: try to get him to calm down over there.
kansas city 26. osweiler throwing. that's complete. inside the 20 to the 15 yard line. vernon davis. davis arrived in denver with 55 career touchdown catches. 10th season out of maryland. you start looking at this game as a whole you go back to the first game. chiefs had five interceptions. denver sitting at five turnovers today. chiefs are putting themselves in position. >> greg: andre caldwell had that ball shaken loose by eric berry. meanwhile for kansas city chiefs, they traveled to san diego next week to take on another divisional foe, chargers. then they're home to buffalo, at oakland.
go just off of winning percentages, chiefs have easiest in the nfl over final seven weeks of the season. >> greg: osweiler. dancing free. inside the ten to about the seven. and within two yards of a first down. that looks like that will take us to the two-minute warning. two minutes to play here in denver. from the moment they arrived it's been all kansas city. the manpower the will mobilizing to take on the world? you don't know "aarp" aarp and aarp foundation are taking on hunger with 31 million meals donated drive to end hunger teams with local agencies to reach the hungriest among us if you don't think ending hunger when you think aarp then you don't know "aarp" find more surprising possibilities
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up the middle. on first down they need three yard, they need three yards for first down, eight yards for touchdown. >> trent: one person going to the end zone, one person underneath lot of times that ends up being one of those times where somebody goes flat. you crisscross, somebody pick up first down. demaryius is in double coverage. >> greg: osweiler. escapes once, throwing, diving catch for the touchdown by andre caldwell. >> trent: or do 360 slide to your left, move your right, come back out.
you. >> greg: good mobility. then keeping his eyes on the field lot of times young quarterbacks are quarterbacks that have experience levels, brock osweiler they tend to put their eyes down want to take off and run that keeping his eyes and run. >> greg: at 6'8" he gets better view than most. brandon mcmanus for the extra point. and it is good. now 29-13 with 1:45 to play. reminder coming up next "60 minutes" except on the west coast where it will be seen as regularly scheduled time.
well. you would presume another on-side kick upcoming from the denver broncos? >> trent: they started the second half with an on-side kick i'm pretty sure they're going to attempt another one. we've seen a surprise on-side kick, traditional on-side kick one where they act like they're going right they come back to the left. i think they have used up their bag of on-side kicks. matter which one they're going to choose try to get that lucky bounce. >> greg: i'm sure gary kubiak will be asked about that. i can feel just looking for some kind of spark for his team. >> trent: you had to. the offense is as we've mentioned offense only had 40 yards in the first half trying to get the ball back quickly, get the ball at midfield. another factor confidence in his defense. kansas city wasn't able to do anything with it.
coming out of the second half. >> greg: lots of guys up front. it is grabbed at the 45 yard line. by daniel sorensen let's go down to jamie. >> happy to have one of thinks teammates back. line judge gary arthur, he was in denver week one was a brutal block on punt return he suffered nine broken ribs, a broken collar bone and partially collapsed lung. he told me he lost 15 pounds in his rehab coming back from those injuries, he had to stay in denver for four days after. surgery on his collar bone he's happy to be back he told me cool that my return back in denver the site that this all happened his teammates as well on the officiating crew were pump. >> greg: glad to have you back, gary. kansas city now looking to run out the clock.
just short of the 35 yard line. denver broncos as they move forward they're at chicago next week. then new england will be here before they travel to san diego. most of the road games are gone for the broncos they just have three more on the road in chicago, in san diego and at pittsburgh. we have another player down on the field. that is derek wolfe, no. 95. he is up. we've had more than our fair share of hard hits. >> trent: a very physical game.
that his team had to come in here with an attitude. they felt good about the way they have been playing prior to the bye week. got rested up a little bit. traditions got such incredible record 14-2 coming off of the bye week in his head coaching career. he felt good about his team getting prepared for this. >> greg: to the 326789 we check in once again j.b. in new york. >> bill: you said it with one second left. the fieldgoal, he hasn't missed this year. one second left new england leads 27-26. >> james: back to greg gumbel. >> greg: undefeated dream stays alive i the northeast. >> trent: coach i'd like to say that i'm always right that was lot of time for tom brady to have. let me just tell coach, you're never right. i had one earlier today what are you talking about on replay i
had the interception. fun to be right couple of times in the day. >> greg: one more snap before this one winds down we will give the win to kansas city and loss to denver. denver loses its second straight, fall to 7-2. kansas city now won improve to 4-5 their tied with the oakland raiders in the afc west. by the way, the new england patriots have closed out that win over new york giants. >> trent: you saw where the chiefs are tied with the raiders at 4-5 they have raiders coming up couple of times here in the final stretch. raiders lost the game today to minnesota. andy reid got chiefs right back in the thick of things. >> greg: now 15-2 after a bye week that is andy reid's record. peyton and alex smith shaking.
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[gunfire] when you realized there were multiple gunmen, what did you think? >> i just realized that they were here to kill as many people as possible. it was going to be a bloodbath. >> pelley: have you spoken to the president? >> yeah, a number of times. >> pelley: since you became speaker? >> yeah. >> pelley: you feud man you can work with? >> yeah. this is the job. >> pelley: paul ryan didn't want the thankless job of leading a fractured majority that can't keep its promises. besides, he preferred his house in janesville, wisconsin, to the people's house in washington. >> it has been polarizing. it has been dysfunctional. and at this time in our country's history, we can't afford to keep this dysfunction going. >> kroft: not since football was nearly banned 100 years ago has the sport been under the microscope the way it is today, and all of it has to do with matters of the brain. you think the game's safer than
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>> kroft: two days after the paris terror attacks, there are these developments. cbs news is reporting there were eight attackers, seven of whom are dead. one is at large. paris is on edge. french police have recovered a car outside the city they believe the surviving attacker it contained three ak-47 assault rifles. seven people have been detained in belgium as part of the investigation. isis has claimed responsibility for the series of attacks, which left at least 129 people dead. including nearly 100 in critical condition.
scott pelley is in paris for us. >> pelley: on this sunday night, the great bells of notre dame paid tribute to the dead and to the wounded. you're about to meet two witnesses to the assault on paris. one of them was shot as he played dead inside the concert hall where most of the victims were killed. the other watched innocent people shot down by one of the terrorists. together they paint a picture of the day darkness descended on the city of light. what was the very first thing you saw? >> colclough: a gunman. dressed in black. black boots, black trousers, tight, a black sweater of sorts, no collar. and standing in a very clear gun position, shooting position. he was holding a weapon, and had it shoulder... had it shouldered, and was shooting quite deliberately and
precisely. >> pelley: mark colclough, a danish psychotherapist, was walking with a friend toward the bonne biere cafe. where was he shooting? >> colclough: the french have a habit of having chairs outside the cafe, so you can sit with your back to the window, and just watch the world go by. and people were doing that. and he shot three of them, just like that. the three that were sitting outside, he shot very quickly. >> pelley: so, as he opens fire on the crowd outside the cafe... >> colclough: three people. there wasn't a crowd. he had positioned his leg so he would... he would stand in a kind of tripod kind of way. had the rifle up to his left shoulder. and quite deliberately shot, looked, shot, looked, shot, looked, stopped. >> pelley: what happened to those three people? >> colclough: they fell of their chairs. >> pelley: he hit them all? >> colclough: oh yeah, they were dead. or they fell off their chairs, we could see that.
that's the first thing i saw. he was shooting that way, down to his right. then he gyrated back and he shot straight ahead into a car that was parked, that was at the crossroads next to the cafe. >> pelley: this is the scene. there's the car. and these are the people who "fell off their chairs." the man recording this video says to himself, "poor people, it can't be true, it can't be true." what happened next? >> colclough: he then stepped forward and then he turned right and walked into the cafe that the three people had been sitting in front of. >> pelley: it didn't appear to you that he had the weapon set on automatic, and he was just sweeping the room? >> colclough: no. it wasn't random. >> pelley: but he was picking out his targets, shooting them one at a time? moving to the next target? >> colclough: he shot the three, then he shot into the car. then he moved into the cafe. looked right, panned right with his weapon, didn't shoot.
panned left, duck-duck-duck. pause. duck-duck-duck. pause. >> pelley: the shooting stopped. the gunman fled. mark colclough and his friend went to see if they could help. when you went into the cafe what did you see? >> colclough: wounded. some were, i could see one guy had been shot in his thigh. i could see another woman had... already been given an oxygen mask, and was... i could see the paramedics had put themselves on either side of her so i thought she was more critically wounded. and then towards the bar i could see on our left, i could see there were three of four dead bodies lying in front of the bar. civilians. so, i looked down, and i saw big puddles of blood. puddles. not little droplets, but
puddles. >> pelley: tables turned over? >> colclough: yeah. >> pelley: chairs flipped over? chaos? >> colclough: and the... again, the smell of gunpowder in the room. >> pelley: half a mile away, an american band was playing to a packed house at the bataclan music hall. francois was by the stage. he's asked us to use only his first name. >> francois: there was about 1,500 people inside. so, people were standing and dancing at the ground floor. >> pelley: on the ground floor, there are no seats? it's all open? >> francois: no seats. there is the bar at the back and people dancing at the front. >> pelley: what was the first thing you noticed? >> francois: i so, i heard the- the gunshots, about ten. i look back. and i saw this man shooting a rifle. >> pelley: describe him to me.
>> francois: he was shooting shot by shot to make sure he was targeting the people. i don't know. every-everything was methodic. very precise and-and he was trained, he was clearly trained. >> pelley: clearly trained? >> francois: yeah. >> pelley: did they have to stop and reload? >> francois: i saw him reloading very, very fast. >> pelley: you think he was experienced? >> francois: yeah. >> pelley: trained like a soldier? >> francois: yeah. >> pelley: francois was hit, a grazing bullet to the back. he fell to the dance floor and played dead. >> pelley: what are you seeing around you? were other people wounded nearby? >> francois: yes. yes. i saw people hurt. the... i saw people laid on the ground not moving.
several injured. there was... there was blood all over the ground. and-and yeah, it was a nightmare. >> pelley: and when you realized there were multiple gunmen, what did you think? >> francois: i just realized that they were... they were here to kill as many people as possible. so i just thought it was... it was going to be a bloodbath, it was really hell. like, people were just all pushing to the... to the exit. it was it was really packed of people trying to get above each other, trying to ex... trying to escape. >> pelley: he made a break for it through this exit. those are people hanging from the windows above.
as you're escaping through this door, was it difficult to get through that? >> francois: there was a lot of people on me for about 30 seconds. >> pelley: on top of you? >> francois: yeah, on top of me. >> pelley: crawling over you? >> francois: yeah. it was about two people over me trying to escape. and it was really long to-to get out of the building. >> pelley: neighbors opened their apartments to the wounded. a stranger used a shirt to stop francois's bleeding. later, he overheard the police assault on the terrorists. >> pelley: what happened then? >> francois: then we-we waited about two hours in-in the apartment. the-the police came to us, making sure everybody was okay in the building. >> pelley: can you show me where you were hit?
so, i was shot here, at the... so, at the... on the back, just below my shoulder. and the bullet came out here. >> pelley: that's where the exit wound is? >> francois: yeah. the exit wound right here, close to the spine. >> pelley: what did the doctors tell you about the course that the bullet took? >> francois: they told me i was extremely lucky. because the bullet didn't touch any muscles or bones. >> pelley: so lucky to be alive? >> francois: yeah. yeah. yeah. >> bauer: unfortunately if it happens here it will replicate somewhere else. >> pelley: they tested the concept here. >> bauer: yeah. >> pelley: alain bauer is a former security advisor to the french government who helped new york city set up its counter terrorism unit after 9/11. >> pelley: is it possible that they could get that to the united states? >> bauer: i think they will try. we are only the second worst
u.s. are first. >> pelley: six locations were hit in 33 minutes. alain bauer believes that the main target was the soccer match between france and germany, broadcast live across europe. the french president was there. but outside the stadium only one victim was killed. >> bauer: they arrived too late. >> pelley: they arrived too late? after all this planning, they got there late? >> bauer: it happens. >> pelley: bauer says one terrorist failed to get into the stadium with a propane tank rigged to explode in a backpack full of nails and bolts. the bomber blew himself up. >> bauer: the main issue was, clearly, to create a lot of chaos. and it did not happen the way they wanted. so we had a lot of luck. >> pelley: bauer sees paris as a turning point. >> bauer: and it shows how people that are not very well equipped can have such a
bullet by bullet, people they never see, and prepare to kill themselves to show their case. this is a big change in the level of determination and of violence. >> pelley: too often we think of these things in isolation. but here, in just the last few weeks now, isis blew up the russian jetliner in egypt, it attacked its enemies with a bomb in lebanon, and now, a few days later, this attack in paris. >> pelley: when you connect the dots this is not over for the western democracies. >> bauer: it's just the beginning. isis said it. it's just the beginning. they are... they are right. you need to listen to them, read them, understand they say, the way they say it, and what they want. and they say it all the time. >> pelley: you take them at their word. >> bauer: of course. why not?
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>> kroft: this past week, before friday's tragedy in paris, scott pelley went to wisconsin for a far-ranging conversation with the new speaker of the house. >> pelley: congress discovered new depths of dysfunction in september when the speaker of the house unexpectedly resigned, his designated successor refused the job, and paul ryan, the only leader republicans could agree on, turned them down. ryan didn't want the thankless job of leading a fractured majority that can't keep its promises. besides, he preferred his house in janesville, wisconsin, to the people's house in washington. but tonight, much to his surprise, ryan is speaker-- at 45the youngest in more than
140 years, and on his terms. he's an expert on the budget, mitt romney's running mate in 2012. and we met him in his hometown on his second week in the job. have you spoken to the president? >> paul ryan: yeah, a number of times. >> pelley: since you became speaker? >> ryan: uh-huh. >> pelley: and the substance of those conversations has been what? >> ryan: varied on a number of different issues. and much of it discussed about things we can get working together on, things that we have to get done by the end of the year. and just, you know, courtesy issues. we talk about... we talk about having teenage daughters, too. >> pelley: but you found a man you can work with? >> ryan: sure. yeah, look, this is the job. absolutely. >> pelley: well, it hasn't been... >> ryan: he's president of the united states. my president, too. >> pelley: it hasn't... the job hasn't been getting done these last several years... >> ryan: i agree with that. but nevertheless, this government does have to work. >> pelley: on your first day as speaker, you said you were going to wipe the slate clean. >> ryan: uh-huh. >> pelley: and then in your very first news conference, you said the president has "proven himself untrustworthy on immigration." that's not wiping the slate
in the president's face. >> ryan: well, i think wiping the slate clean was about wiping the slate clean in congress and getting congress, the house functioning again. but on this particular issue, he tried to go around congress and write the law unilaterally. >> pelley: but when people hear this, they think, "here we go again. nothing's going to change." >> ryan: i think you can walk and chew gum at the same time. i think you can oppose the president on some issue that you fundamentally disagree with, but also work with the other party on issues you do agree with. that's what i've been doing. look, if we can find common ground... we can on highways, we will on funding the government, hopefully. we can on tax policy. those are three things that will produce certainty in this economy in the next few months. let's go do that. >> pelley: there was a time on capitol hill when the other guy had a bad idea, and now, on capitol hill, the other guy's a bad guy. >> ryan: yeah, i think that's right. >> pelley: how do you heal that animosity? it's your job now. >> ryan: leadership, by the example, is the way i look at it. somewhere in this, we got into
impugning people's character and motives if we didn't like their ideas. we've got to get back to just debating ideas. and also, i think we need to sort of... you know, we have two ears and one mouth. we got to use those in that proportion. >> pelley: his mother betty taught him to listen more and speak less. we met her, his wife janna, and cousin adam in a favorite neighborhood restaurant. janna, how did you first hear that paul was being asked to be speaker of the house? >> janna ryan: i am a big thrift store shopper, and i was in my car in front of the salvation army here in janesville when the phone rang. and he said "well, this is coming our way. and you think i should say no, right?" and i said, "oh, yeah, you should say no." and that's how it started. >> pelley: and it's speaker of the house-- i mean, how do you say no? >> janna ryan: for our family, for the rhythm of our life, for what we saw our path, it just seemed like too much.
him to travel, to be in so many places, to be so much to so many people would leave too little of him for his role as father and husband. >> pelley: mr. speaker, how did you get from "no" to "yes"? you said "hell, no!" >> ryan: yeah. i see myself as more of a policy maker than a political leader. i do politics in order to do policy. i came into it no. then, i realized the situation in our caucus was fairly dire, and that i sort of had an obligation and a duty to step up and do it. and then the question was, can i redesign the job so that i can do it well, so i can be happy and successful? and the fact that we live here in janesville-- we don't live in washington, and our kids are ten, 12 and 13 years old. it's mostly an empty-nester that gets this job, who spends his or her weekends flying around america fundraising. i'm not going to spend my saturdays and sundays flying around america fundraising. i'm going to spend them here, where i need to be.
and so, once i learned i could redesign the job, then i decided to do it. and now that i'm doing it, i feel it's a great honor. i'm actually excited about it. >> janna ryan: and now it's one of those things that i can't imagine that it wouldn't have happened. i'm not saying that there aren't moments that you think, "wow, how did this happen? you know, how am i on '60 minutes' right now talking about paul being speaker?" but it was... it just... it felt right. >> pelley: mr. speaker, i... >> ryan: i go by "paul," so if it's okay with you... >> pelley: would you prefer that? because people aren't going to call you that. >> ryan: yeah, well, i prefer it if i... they are... ( laughter ) >> pelley: what adversity in your life has made you the person you are today? >> ryan: probably losing my dad when i was 16. >> pelley: what happened? >> ryan: he died of a heart attack. my mom was off with my aunt visiting my sister in denver. i worked the late shift at mcdonald's the night before. and i was going to sleep in, wake up, mow the lawn. and my dad's office called asking where he was. and i went to find him and he was... you know, he had died
over... in his sleep of a heart attack. >> pelley: what did you learn from it? >> ryan: i learned tragedy. i learned perseverance. and i learned a lot about myself and about my mom and about my family. >> pelley: your father, your grandfather, your great- grandfather all died in their 50s. does that put a fire under you? >> ryan: it does, so i focus on just being healthy. i don't want this to happen to my kids, to janna. and it does. it gave me the other sense that life is short, you better make the most of it. >> pelley: janna, this is an extremely rare opportunity for a reporter. you don't do interviews. i wonder why that is. why not? >> janna ryan: because i've always wanted our family to be a refuge from politics, to be seen... when people to see us as a family, to think of us as janna and paul and charlie, liza, and sam; not as "here comes the speaker of the house" or "here comes that guy who has those votes i don't like," or whatever it would be.
janesville, a very included, normal-- whatever that means-- regular family. >> pelley: mr. speaker-- or paul, if you insist-- you don't have a home in washington. >> ryan: no, we live here in janesville. >> pelley: where do you sleep? >> ryan: for about a decade, i've been sleeping on a cot in my office. it's very efficient to me. >> pelley: you sleep every night in washington on a cot in your office? >> ryan: yeah, i work a lot. all i do is work there. i get up very early in the morning, i work out. and then i work till about 11:00, 11:30 at night, do the same thing the next day. >> pelley: where do you get cleaned up? >> ryan: in the gym. i work out every morning, and i shower in the gym and i go on with my day. >> pelley: one of the things that you said during this period of time that you were telling the republican caucus that you didn't want the job was that you were concerned that the job would open up your children to ridicule. >> ryan: well, they're coming of age. >> pelley: what does that say about politics in our country? >> ryan: yeah, that's a good point.
politics has become a blood sport that goes beyond just the person whose name is on the ballot. basically, our kids are getting to the age where they start paying attention, and they're going to see things about their dad that, you know, won't be flattering because i'll take controversial positions on policy issues. and i just wanted to make sure our kids have a normal upbringing, a normal life like we had here in janesville. >> pelley: janesville, southern wisconsin, is getting on pretty well, even though the g.m. plant closed after 90 years. 64,000 people, mostly german and irish. >> ryan: we have 67 cousins is our last count here in janesville, and we all live within about eight blocks of each other. >> pelley: his party's frontrunner for president proposes to deport all illegal immigrants. what's your immigration plan? >> ryan: i think it starts with border enforcement. i think it starts with enforcing the rule of law. but you need to have a vibrant legal immigration system. legal immigration is america. my name's ryan... >> pelley: but some sort of a pathway to citizenship for the 11 million illegal immigrants... >> ryan: i don't agree with that. i don't agree with that.
i think you could have a pathway to legal status. that's been what i have proposed in the past is a pay... a way to make amends with the law-- effectively, go on probation and earn your way to legal status, but not to citizenship. >> pelley: i take it you don't advocate rounding up 11 million illegal immigrants and deporting them. >> pelley: i do not. >> pelley: that's not going to happen while you're speaker of the house. >> ryan: i can't imagine how it could happen, so no. >> pelley: you have proposed having only two tax brackets, 10% and 25%. that still your position? >> ryan: yeah, i've always liked that plan. and our tax code really punishes our small businesses, which is where most of our jobs come from. i mean, look, we're sitting here in wisconsin. overseas-- which, to us, means lake superior, you know-- the canadians are taxing their businesses at 15%. the top tax rate on successful small businesses in america, here in wisconsin, is 44.6%. how can you compete like that? how can you have jobs? how can working families get ahead with a tax system like that? >> pelley: give me three things you would do on tax reform, very specifically.
>> ryan: well, i'd simplify the code dramatically. i would collapse the rates down to two or three. and i would change the way we tax ourselves internationally, so businesses can take their money and bring it back home so american businesses stay american businesses. and we have to drop our rates on our businesses. i think those three things right there are what i would do. >> pelley: with this new job, what are the stakes of failure? >> ryan: the country stays on the path it is on-- deep poverty, flat wages, working families falling behind, a wreck of national security, oh, followed up by a debt crisis. >> pelley: and what is the elephant in the room? >> ryan: well, i think it's our entitlement programs, it's our budget deficits... >> pelley: social security? >> ryan: it's social security, it's medicare, it's medicaid. and the good news on these issues is that if we reform them for the next generation now, we can guarantee-- guarantee-- that people in or near retirement don't have any changes in their benefits. >> pelley: most people don't realize that two-thirds of the federal budget is social
security, medicare, medicaid, and the pentagon. the u.s. government is an insurance company with an army. >> ryan: that's right. >> pelley: so, in terms of social security, in your view, we're going to have to raise the retirement age? >> ryan: we haven't as a caucus decided this issue yet. so as speaker of the house, i help manage and bring to a consensus. i'm not dictator of the house. but i have always believed, and i've been public about this for many years, for younger people, when they age, we should change the retirement age to reflect longevity. because that just to make the program finances work. >> pelley: not dictator of the house, but he did start with an ultimatum to about 40 conservatives called the "freedom caucus". if he was going to leave his dream job, chairman of ways and means-- the tax committee-- he demanded their support by the end of the week. they agreed. and ryan promised to open the process to their ideas and amendments. but when it comes to a vote, he expects their support. >> pelley: do you work for the "freedom caucus," or do they