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>> james jeffrey: extremely important, extremely co next president's agenda. >> kroft: because? >> jeffrey: first of all, it's location.?-t8?# lotion is everything.xwz?>>ro ur james jeffrey spent much of s diplomatic career in turkey, a country at sres borders with sya, iraq, iran; ando>o thelack sea to the north with russia. but more importantly, turkey also plays host to the uted at a number of critical air bases like incirlik, that serve as staging areas for military erations in the middle east, and are vital to projecting us military power all theay from euro?7?pe tindia. and how important are those bases? >> jeffrey: ey're extremely important. we could note doing the campaign against isis right now northern iraq and in syria without these bases. >> kroft: so the u.s. can't?2?? afford to lose those bases? >> jeffr: absolutely not.rj' >> kroft: this is the man who
let me be very frank in my remarks, and i've been known for my candor. i wouldn't speak the truth if i said i was not disillusioned. because i am disillusioned. >> kroft: president erdoan is not the only one in turkey disillusioned with america right now. so are many of his countrymen, who feel that their western allies care more about their own interests than turkey's. most of the tension and anti- americanism can be traced back to the night of july 15, hin factions of the turkish military shut down the bosporus bridge that connects europe and asia, and launched a coup to overthrow the elected government. it wasn't long after that f-16s commandeered by a rogue faction of the air force strked fast and low across the skies of istanbul and ankara. sonic booms shattered windows.
and shut down istanbul's main airport. and in something never seen fore in the capital of a nato country, the parliament in ankara was bombed, and so he used the facetime app on a borrowed phone to call in to a turkish television station. he pleaded for people to take to the streets and fill the squares. tens of thousands responded, facing down tanks and helicopters. as volleys were fired into crowds, erdogan boarded a plane
and the lives of your family members? >> erdoan ( translated ): steve, in our faith there is a concept? we surrender ourselves to death. if you're the leader, you have munite the message of immortality to your people.?zu because i believ if a leader hides behind a rock, then the people will hide behind a mountain. >> kroft: his return to istanbul proved to be the turning point. failed. more than 200 were dead. erdoan immediately blamed the revolt on his arch-enemy, an elderly and exiled cleric named fethullah gulen, whose followers had infiltrated the highest levels of the turkish military, judiciary, and civil service. for the past 17 years, gulen has been leading a reclusive life in the united states on a 26-acre retreat in the pocono mountains.
that his american ally return gulen to turkey. >> erdoan ( translated ): this man is the leader of a terrorist organization that has bombed my parliament. we have extradited terrorists to the united states in the past. and we expect the same thing to be done by the united states. >> kroft: the u.s. is insisting that the extradition process must be handled through u.s. courts to evaluate the evidence. the delay has created widespread suspicions here that the u.s. and that its intelligence agencies may have been involved or had advance knowledge of the coup. members of erdogan's government have suggested that publicly. the u.s. has denied it. any u.s. involvement? >> en ( translated ): i'm not going to blame the united states. but that's what my people will think. why are you still keeping that man? so as long you harbor him there,
but this is the-- perception of the turkish nation and the turkish people. >> kroft: i'm taking it from your answer that you have done nothing to discourage the turkish people from believing that. >> erdoan ( translated ): i cannot deceive my people. i cannot deceive my people here. because i'm suffering right now. the united states is not suffering. but i'm suffering because of the 241 martyrs that we have buried. >> kroft: erdoan had begun a crackdown on the gulenist movement and other pered enemies before the attempted coup. after it, he used a state of emergency to begin a massive effort to purge them from government and turkish society. more than 30,000 people have been arrested or detained, including generals, judges, prosecutors, mayors, members of parliament, teachers and journalists. another 100,000 people have been fired or suspended from government jobs, and 150 media
people in the united states have said that this is an overreaction. this is a crackdown on the political opposition, not a crackdown on terrorists? >> erdoan ( translated ): in turkey, they attempted to destroy my state. and of course, we could not remain silent. and these measures are beingent. taken by prosecutors and judges in full accordance with the rule of law. >> kroft: there are not many pe publicly criticize the government. soli o?zel is an academic and a prominent political commentator. >> soli ozel: i think-- this has gone beyond s-- only the gulenists. dismissewhobly haveave been nothing to do with the gulenists. a lot of newspaper people have been dismissed, although they have nothing with the gulenists. and i think a lot of people who really had nothing to do with
>> kroft: do you think the government is becoming more and the presidency is becoming more authoritarian? >> ozel: we are moving in that direction, yes. the presidency has now accumulated a lot more power than is stipulated in the-- in the constitution. and it will continue to accumulate more. >> erdoan ( translated ): this is misperception. it is out the question. we have saved our country from the hands of a heinous coup, and we are very much determined to protect our democracy. >> kroft: there is a strong bent of authoritarianism that runs through turkish history and turkish life, and erdoan's
courted them and included them in his government. >> ece temelkuran: he is a brilliant politician when it comes to talking to common pele and with thei?> kroft: ece temelkuran is ahoe the country's cultural and political changes. she believes this is all part of erdogan's vision for a new turkey. >> temelkuran: the new turkey does not ask you to be more religious. ayotoe morebeent. it has to be obedient. religious and, you know, supporting the-- governing ?yn7y.a& >> kroft: erdoan's new turkey as been a source of concern in washington. while the two nato allies still share the same goals of replacing the assad government in syria and defeating isis, each country has its own special interests and priorities. and in some cases its own allies. the united states is obsessed
separatist groups that have been waging a decades-long war inside their country.?2? this is where it gets complicated. but this is something that we did not come to an agreement with the united states about. >> kroftto between erdoan and the united states has stepped russian president vladimir putin, one o& first world leers to express?s lidarity with turkey after the failed coup. since then, the two countries have finalized a majoripeline , and agreed tstep military and intelligence contacts. are you reua
>> erdoan ( translated ): right now, such a thkring is not in question. we are moving in the same direction with nato that we have always done. >> kroft: according to one informed observer, what erdoan is really looking for is answere u.s. truly committed to use all of its power, including its military, to preserve order in the region, stop terrorism and protect the terests of turkey. yes, or no? it's a difficult question to answer, because the middle east is such a messy place, but right
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discriminated against, paid less and treated worse, next tohe u.s. men's team. soccer may be known as the beautiful game, but the team has embarked on a bruising and historic legal fight for equality, and their oppone is? the u.s. soccer federaon, their own employer.tw for e players, it's the match >> carli lloyd: we feel like we're treated like second class citizens because they don't care as much about us as they do the men. >> l?,loyd will try a long hit-- what a goal for lloyd! >> o'donnell: carli lloyd is considered the best female soccer player in the world and captains the u.s. team. captain becky sauerbrunn and their teammates christen press and morgan brian. there's a long history of
employers for more pay. it happens in the n.b.a.? it happens in the n.f.l. what's different about thi fight? >> christen press: this is a social movement, i think. this is about j-- gender discrimination and i don't think that positive change occurs in the world unless it has to. >> o'donnell: how does this fight rank in some of the competitions you've been in? >> rebecca sauerbrunn: it's the fight, you know? i mean, we have been in some-- some major-- some major battles on the field, but this is-- this part of. >> o'donnell: the team is made up of the best female soccer players from around the country, and for 25 years they've ruled the world. >> goal! >> o'donnell: in 1999, when]$ brandi chastain scored to beat china in the finals of the world cup, her celebration announcedtn women's sports. for the 2015 final, an estimated
three goals sealed a huge win against japan. it was, and remains, the highes: rated soccer match in american history, including games played by the u.s. men. >> lloyd: we're america's dream team, ront a we've been at the top and i think the number one team-- in women's sports history. >> o'donnell: how has u.s. soccer federation helped you guys make it to where you are? >> sauerbrunn: when you compare this federation to all the other federations across the globe, they have invested the most money in this women's program. they have, and that's why we've gotten as far as we have. but to be paid equally, you know, it's-- it's not about what they think it's fair; it's-- it's what is fair. ( chanting "u.s.a.!" ) >> o'donnell: after their 2015 world cup triumph, the team was honored with a parade down new york city's canyon of heroes.
their relationship with u.s. soccer was breaking down over a new contract. outspoken goalkeeper hope solo was on the team for 19 years. >> hope solo: time and time again we asked, that we wanted at f my years?ally to the men.ng >> so: yeah,e have, we have. every time we brought up the men, it pissed them off. it aoyed t and they'd say, "don't bring up the men. don't bring it up." >> o'donnell: globally, men's soccer is undeniably more popular and profitable than the women's game. when germany won the world cup in 2014, fifa, the sports international governing body, awarded them $35 million. a year later, when the u.s. women won the cup, the u.s. ccer federation received $2 million. >> big run to the box. >> o'donnell: men also make major league salaries plingg& for brand name club teams. women's pro clubs have struggled
income to pay their bills, unlike the men. how are they paid differently? >> there's two different pay structures. the men get paid-- per game. whether they win or lose, they get paid the women were on a salary-based contract. >> o'donnell: it's a pay structure the women themselves wanted and agreed to, in 2005 and again in 2013. a consistent salary of up to $72,000 a year, and bonuses for o they also get health insurance and maternity leave. the men enjoy no guaranteed salary and fewer personal benefits, but they can make as muchs 7,625 dollars a win. we wanted to compare two of the top players.pe solo was paid about $366,000 in
in 2014, also a world cup year for the men, team u.s.a. goalkeeper tim howard was paid $398,495. "look, you are in control. this is your business. you have to take control of it. and you can be in control of it, but you have to be unified. you've got to get a new deal. >> oonnell: what kind of deal would the women accept? >> nichols: equal. equal pay. >> o'donnell: well, what does equal mean? you want the same agreement the men have? >> nichols: we want the same money that-- that the men are making, exactly. that's $5,000 minimum-- that's-- that $8,000-- bonus if you tie a game, and the $17,625 if you
>> morgan brian: we have to win and perform in order to even make $1,350. >> o'donnell: you're professional women. you signed this deal. you look back and say, "why did i agree to that deal?" ?? >> sauerbrunn: a littl b it'scome alswh?7jdown toit?f?(lo nosay, 'ever?=ything that 're tting on the table?" iwe didn't know how to fight, and-- and in which ways we could fight. >> o'donnell: do you think you should be paid more than the men's team? >> lloyd: yeah, absolutely. >> o'donnell: why? >> lloyd: we win. we're successful. we should get what we deserve. >> o'donnell: last year, the top female players did make more money from u.s. soccer than the men's team, but their lawyer rich nichols says that's only because they played and won more games than the men. >> nichols: when you subtract the bonus money that-- that these women made in 2015, you know, they're probably making $72,000, $80,000 apiece.
would not have made anywhere close to what the men made. >> nichols: that's right. despite being upset at last summer's olympics, the women are still #1 in the world, according to fifa. they say their fight is only with u.s. soccer, not with the u.s. men's team, who are ranked a respectable if unspectacular 24th in the world. >> president obama: this team taught all america's children that playing like a girl means you're a badass. >> o'donnell: on stage at the white house in october 2015, they were national heroes celebrating their latest world cup win. back on the job, they were disgruntled workers whose negotiations with u.s. soccer had ground to a halt and grown increasingly bter. the women decided tong?x?lj enter the federal agency kwn as the e.e.o.c., or the equal employment opportunity commission. whfile this suit with the e.e.o.c.?
the same sport under the same workg conditio?rns. >> o'donnell: like the w.n.b.a. and the n.b.a. are two separate organizations. >> nichols: correct. same-- same employer, same job, same work conditions, same everything. >> o'donnell: the federations' lawyers responded to the e.e.o.c. complaint by saying, "any differences in the compensation paid men and women players are driven by factors other than gender." >> coming to you, live. >> o'donnell: major factors according to u.s. soccer are
they say men's games, on channels like espn, average auadiences four times larger thn the women. ( chanting "u.s.a.!" ) but the federation sells both teams to broadcasters and sponsors as one entity, thisp?ll year for about $45 million. the president of u.s. soccer is sunil gulati. he teaches economics at columbia university. we requested an interview with mr. gulati, but he declid. in a statement, the federation said they "areel the women's team." >> sauerbrunn: and they're looking backwards, you know? we're looking to go forwards from now on, and we've shown-- and they've projected in their own financials that we-- we are going to make them money. so it's, i think, unfair to pay us less based on performances in the past. >> thank you. >> o'donnell: according to u.s. soccer's own projections for this year, the women will net about $5 million from ticket
but it turns out this labor dispute is about more than just money. "60 minutes" has learned the e.e.o.c. is also asking questions about the differences between the men and women when it comes to playing conditions, equipment, and travel. how do the women travel to games? >> lloyd: well, we fly in coach. >> o'donnell: the men, though, is part of their agreement, fly first class? >> lloyd: yes. >> brian: to be able to perform w the world, we should be treated the same as them. >> o'donnell: we were curious what this fight means to a younger generation of female soccer players. asia horne, analiese schwartz, sarah sullivan and joelle kelly
>> asia horne: the boys' teams would get more fldime than e girls'?t?e teams. weld with other age groups while the boys would have full field. >> o'donnell: so, joelle, given what the disparities that you've noticed and what you're witnessing the u.s. women's soccer team do, what's the lesson that you learn from that? >> joelle kelly: what they're doing is for us. so we can have that equal pay, and that-- so that we can be on the same level as men. >> o'donnell: the women's contract with u.s. soccer expires this coming new year's e. whether or not the e.e.o.c. decides in their favor, they say they'll remain focused on their goal with all options on the table. if you don't get a ruling from the e.e.o.c., if you don't get what you want from the soccer federation, will you go on strike? >> sauerbrunn: it would be a discussion that we would have to have. >> o'donnell: there's a possibility that they may strike if they don't get equal pay. would you support that? >> yes. >> o'donnell: why?
if they don't stand up for what they want, they're never going to get it. >> o'donnell: would you like to meet some women on the u.s. women's soccer team? >> yes, yes! >> hello. >> o'donnell: what does it mean to meet these guys? >> the world! making, what we're doing, what we're fighting for. team and with generations to come, but it's global as well. >> o'donnell: carli, you keep saying you're united. how far are you going to take this? >> lloyd: until we get what we want. >> this sports update is brought to you by ford division. i'm james brown with the scores
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none of it came easily. he's been broke, busted and nearly homeless. but this week, following the release of his first album in four years, he's on top of the music world. to show us how he got there, bruno mars did something he's never done. he shared with us some of the toughest moments of his hawaiian upbringing, and gave us the opportunity to witness his extraordinary skills as a songwriter and producer. we begin with bruno mars, the tertainer. this show in connecticut last month was his first public concert of the year-- >> mohegan sun! >> logan: --and he used it as a tune-up for the release of his new album and world tour to follow. ( ? "uptown funk" ? )
superbowl, he and his band, the hooligans, perform full throttle. ( ? "uptown funk" ? ) his standards are high, because the legends of music set them. ( ? "uptown funk" ? ) >> bruno mars: i just really care about what people see. i want them to know that i'm-- i'm working hard for this. ( ? "up the artists that i look up to, like, you know, michael, prince, james brown. you watch them, and you understand that they're paying attention to the details of their art. and they care so much about what they're wearing, about how they're moving, about how they're making the audience feel.g it in. they're going up there to murder anybody that performs after them
of bruno mars began in his hometown: honolulu, hawaii. he was born peter hernandez, to a puerto rican father and philippino mother: parents who were professional musicians, performing together in the tourist showrooms of waikiki beach. their act was called the "love notes," and when bruno was four years old, his parents included him in the family busine. ( ? "blue suede shoes" ? ) he played "little elvis" and it's when he first learned he could steal the show. ( ? "hound dog" ? ) the "little elvis" routine lasted six years, but the sson]of hists' vega style waikiki entertainment revue, have lasted a lifetime. >> mars: you know, it was, like, "school of rock" for me. and it was just-- this kind of razzle-dazzle lifestyle.
>> mars: yeah, show business. you know? >> logan: right? >> mars: and if you wasn't hitting those notes and the audience wasn't-- freakin' out, then you weren't doing it right. >> logan: by the time he turned 12, his parents divorced and the family band broke up. money was tight. his four sisters moved in with his mom. he and his brother lived with his dad-- on top of this building? >> mars: on top of this building. >> logan: --anywhere they could. >> mars: my dad was just the king of finding these little should never have been sying at. >> logan: but you were, like, homeless people? >> mars: yeah. no. yeah, for sure. we was ia limousine once. 1984 limousine. >> logan: sleeping in the back of a car, on top of buildings, and this place-- so this is where you lived? --paradi park, a bird zoo whe his dad took a job. this was the first time 'd been back here since. even people who work with him haven't heard this part of his story.
so we'd have to walk across the park to this other spot that had a bathroom. >> logan: wow. >> mars: in the-- in-- >> logan: and sometimes in the middle of the night. >> mars: in the middle of the night. >> lan: when the park closed, they stayed, movininto this one-room b this was your house? >> mars: yeah. >> logan: they lived here for more than two years. >> mars: just so people don't think we're crazy-- >> logan: yeah? >> mars: --it did not look like this. >> logan: it had a roof? growing inside? >> mars: it didn't have plants growing inside. i don't know what happened to the roof, but the bed wod be right there in the middle. >> logan: yeah? and you'd all sleep in one bed? >> mars: we'd all sleep in one bed. >> logan: happy memories? >> mars: the best. >> logan: that's-- is kind of amazing, in that, what you remember about it is not the struggle or the things you didn't have. >> mars:aw-- >> logan: it's all the things you-- you had. >> mars: yeah.
we had each other and it never felt like it was the end of the world. "it's all right we don't got-- don't got electric today. it's all right. it's temporary." sayin', "well, we're going to figure this out." maybe that's why i have this mentality when it comes to the music. because i know i'm going to figure-- i'm going to figure it out, just give me some time. >> logan: as soon as he graduated high school, he left the waikiki showrooms, and hawaii altogether. you could've stayed here, right? >> mars: and be-- >> logan: --and you could-- >> mars: --very happy. >> logan: yeah? and done what your dad did, and been a big star in hawaii? >> mars: i wanted to go for it. >> logan: you wanted more? >> mars: i wanted more. and my family pushed me. and this iand pushed me. >> logan: how? >> ms: these are my people,d ii want to represent i want people to think of hawaii and think of palm trees and-- ( laughter ) magical islands and-- and bruno