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the event. i actually do any of snow falls and gets you want to listen to receive a full news hour coming up let's look at the headlines may file photo cos he arrives in germany after ten years in a labor camp russia's most famous was no walks free medical department and officially this friday. he says he was guided by the principles of humanity european leaders in brussels discuss that you use defense policy. it also tries to drum up support for troops in the central african republic and presidential elections in madagascar polls are no closed on the second round of voting independent observers
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have reported many instances before. all the help of a costly walked out of his cousin camp this morning and immediately headed for private jet was waiting for him in st petersburg. he is now a ride in berlin letterman who signed the decree pardoning the former oil tycoon early this morning and already questions are being raised about the russian president's motives with some observers commenting that he's trying to deflect criticism of russia's human rights record ahead of the winter olympic games in sochi. the tale of a costly for his part released a short statement saying that he asked to be pardoned on humanitarian grounds. we do know that his mother is reported to be sick. but still the notes the latest chapter in ukraine's political crisis european leaders say they're still open to a partnership with
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kid but not with the current president. this after victory in a cove it's no big news trade pact signed a deal with russia instead traits are yet to call each denounce the ukrainian president's tv appearance from the state did little to appease protesters the crowd called on victor yanukovich to step down. up to you break a deal allowing russia to point lead in between euros worth of ukraine's government bonds some of president kimball course i think our president mr young the call which has sold the country to russia this year will be up about lsd. now the ukrainians are protesters our movement will not fade away. opposition activists welcomed the amnesty bill but to dump the state protesters arrested in recent weeks. protest leaders is still calling for the elections and the adoption of the association agreement with the european union. i ve used broken relationship with
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president yanukovich came under further strain on t he accused is what the neighbors of the state of interfering in ukraine's internal affairs at the eu summit in brussels some officials suggested the change of personnel in kiev would be the east tensions. europe is up and how many people. it is new you didn't listen the resultant covenant people. not just the name of this month. troy the eu summit chairman and titled cooling system he'll be selling the soonest he was ready. ukraine he said. his pulse of the european family european leaders were gathered in brussels for a two day summit focused on the blocks defence and security policy also long been trying to get support for the french military intervention in the central african republic. several countries have promised logistical help but there will be no european contingent and crucially for paris. no european money member states will however discuss the possibility of setting up a civilian mission
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you're pretty sure but what i obtained this morning after all is that european countries not only unanimously support our mission in the central african republic. within the framework of the un security council resolution three d for profit but there could also be a european operations on the ground easter was provided it is noted in the foreign affairs council in january that it is today. hope you can say is that the record to show you on the ground in bank the new flight team has been reported several civilians were killed in gun battles this friday. fighting broke out around him local airports in the least excited with the arrival of french troops sixteen hundred men currently deployed in the capital officially the mission is to disarm the population however as our reports a whole new low witnessed that's not always an easy call to make. it's a crisis meeting in this muslim district of bondi. these men no one reads. they accuse the french soldiers of disarming about all
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the fullness of the ripples from its muslim and paying less attention to the christian anti by law commissioner. ms is known of these beaches on the senate to amend those guys were executed by christian civilians on the potty but i don't like him to disarm the anti at two min we want to know about all the mid america. from this tiny thing in this christian thereon and bondi. he's obviously not letting up. they wear protective eye minutes. some of them all very yummy. they say the disarmament began on tuesday. obviously the soldiers didn't take all my wetness fear of what turf and the roof of the day before yesterday the french army does on most of the man who looked so tall we walked last few weeks it will be disrupted and now they have to do some of those in the all the camp but everyone did that one in that house isn't in the fields the signs are pointing their weapons
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some of the french soldiers arrive where we filmed the ante by my count go and check over there. he told the associated data. i'm supposed to stay here until you get the little ones are all. cultivate your time to kill people wasn't it probably just my own security the fringed and find the old guns to relieve the mennonites in this isolated area it failed as long they could drop to the face for prizes attacks the associates used in sydney this is what its mission is difficult to not you have to follow the rules. also use some common sense when you're suffering that we have to be in their own weapons into the exotic and stop an attack before we tend to get rid of it. don't deem it important because it's hard to reach this area she gets to me
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because i'm on the main religion. we disarm everyone christians muslims could totally ecstatic to be counted ballots counted the order reads the business and human continue. it is indeed no one's going to go to this. in the central african republic for the summer and price this is only just beginning. today is on the edge of civil war barack obama says the alarm bell is fighting continues in the country the united nations peacekeepers have been killed in african delegation has no presence of a cure to negotiate an end to the conflict with his vice president react with shock melbourne has the links seeking shelter from the vine its source to don's counts for the internally displaced are becoming increasingly crowded with people in search of safety classes continue between presidents are but here's forces and troops loyal to his former deputy react which are seen here on the left united nations says thirty four thousand people are seeking refuge at un basis in the capital and in the seat
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tube or near the center of the country. among the people who have taken refuge in our facility. are the caretaker governor and some members of the state government cabinet why is our understanding that war is no longer under the control of the national government. and we are monitoring the situation there and in other parts of jungle a very close the united nations says in a talk on its base in kabul on thursday claimed the lives of two peacekeepers and dozens of silt sudanese who had sought shelter there. nearby troops loyal to fugitive former vice president react much are seized the town of four on wednesday. missouri has admitted that he's called for the overthrow of the president. some four hundred and fifty people have been killed in the capital since bottles broken all last weekend. soldiers from the majority think the tribe of celtic year have been appointing members of the new where ethnic group loyal to
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musharraf who is currently in hiding. us president barak obama warned that salsa down stands at the crest of bits of renewed civil war the evacuation of american and european expatriates is underway. and african mediators are trying to broker a peace deal presidential elections in madagascar polls are no closed after the second round of voting so far the election commission an independent observers have reported any instances of fraud but is hoped the selection will put an end to political crisis that began with the coup d'etat in two thousand and nine. jonathan wallace reports from one of the capsules because polling stations. i mean this polling station people have been casting their ballots all day for the presidential election but also to elect the new madagascar the assembly. but all eyes are on the presidential poll today after nearly five years of instability since the coup in two thousand and nine. people now want an elected president on the one seemed to put the country on its economy
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back on track. both candidates voted today in madagascar are skeptical actually it'll bustle have to put it in the first round of this presidential election he's bought by former prisons not comment on the ninth was now a site in south africa. running against him. there is busy but so are not the monkey on and he supported by the current transition president on top so and so in the week this election is anything but knew how with her. both candidates have promised they would accept the polls for that the campaign that took place peacefully on the wall posters we've been talking to it today. i really hope that both candidates will keep their promise. well that's it now is the news to stay tuned in just a few seconds right after this the world this week with our correspondents give you their opinion. we states. eye. aw. welcome back
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to the world this week for paris based course voters who backed the major stories and use their opinion will be discussing serious monitor rebels are increasingly sidelined by islamist groups discussing the european summit for those trying to get european help as it stands for its troops in the central african republic and our guests will be hijacking the show them some topics of their own that they want to discuss that's coming up in the second part the show. so joining us the best we can direct the nova documentary filmmaker thinks being with this a year also in awe of the author of this book which i could rest we trimmed its the frantic roughly translated as the and the hearts of russian power investigation into the weekend. empire would be interested to hear what you have to say christopher dickey oppose the cabin as mrs goh that this week to paris. your chief of the daily beast states being here. the hockeyroos the former of course that is the french television as senior correspondents and amar of the rondo a franco surrey photojournalist whose
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worked extensively in syria among other places so let's get to this week's first topic let's get started with a russian plan to put the making headlines as the party is the most famous prisoner in the country khodorkovsky once the richest man in russia lasted ten years in a labor camp in siberia. he's been released and he's now left for germany are the prize winner putin as for the first question to you tony is is this a sign perhaps of vladimir putin's grow. hold on power that he no longer needs to keep his rivals in prison now i don't say so i didn't sit well. he probably believes that he's sick of. held up but that i don't think it's the reason lol it's difficult to say because it happened today all yesterday. but that's the first of all for me. i still agree was a lot of commentators who said the keys. their unwarranted on them in big games coming
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in temper. soo maybe a foreign political leaders sending people to get them and the miracles not attending barack obama is not attending as follows the attending see. and the bulls to the states and and she remembers. i remember and he remembers the olympic games in nineteen eighteen one of the deviation of chemists time i cough all the concerts a lot of hunters in common that was it. a man like detail in the games of moscow. cindy says one of the reasons the single this gesture not. and there because what she did. we all very happy that the purple skittles at the rate is ten years in the russian prison it's like something especially you know the scuffle that for these crimes he didn't need these and a third trial was about to get underway so it was possible some people believe that he was actually getting to spend a number of extra years in prison. i stated that he says israel. it's a
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very good. question and it's a very important thing they serve trial is still awesome even the keys three who was in e they decide to start in investigation. rachel is a smokescreen political theater waits until the olympic games are gone and then bulls have slipped to third trial follows course and and and put him back in jail is the reason i think she will see hall difficult to keep the paint what he's doing how can he speak as not to run some on the opposition leader's this too. they will see if he's for these his place in russian them. mr trial a soul is possible. and that they may know that there is an enormous role but the kissing him. she spent more than ten years in prison and normally he terms company and in all its eight months late to work this into a medium heat. it's very good that he's been terrific but the team. paul started to bark a month compared to ten news release in eight months
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early. it was noticing some fourteen cents. the hole and two days. this is the deal is the color can be a professional home the holiday of cheeky steal the kgb today units that they'll be in creation maintenance guy was a deliberately. and since he wasn't the right that accepted the deal. the key to being in the back to old he is crawling with an occasional think it's such a demand. beaks people become an open tomb. while nonetheless it's great that she's free and events. chris and chris were you surprised by this. little surprise i mean everybody is expecting put them to take these measures before the sochi olympics in february. he'd gotten the idea that the coffee was never going to jail even if is eight months more had been served there would've been another trial something else to just keep them locked away in siberia forever. so all the sun to
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hear he's gonna be pardoned the specimen is to take the time it takes apart knees out all the sunnis gone is the pride agenda is out of the country was a little surprising. i also think that is actually attracting more attention. and then not mean precisely because everybody thought he was out of the way in under the jail forever in siberia. now he's gone all this attention to him. and people are saying exactly what time is saying it was only a matter of eight months why did he spend ten years was this guy who doesn't think he is. well not too sour. i think this is one the french call for the class and privilege decision of life and death made by the ahh moment antidepressants people in russia then now is to put in camps on trial in the very small movie russian administration would just tell. like its heels and
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executed yet it has is that we think this is the benefit of the russian people and we think this is for national while. mr putin first and there's also another reason i think which has been awful it's the fact that up has been considerable capital flight from from russia recently the bush economy is and that's isn't out of stocks that have been serious banking problems for some of the russian banks. and he realizes that goes into a middle class energy and the rule if he wants to maintain. he is. connections to iran russia and its power to have to give them to get them implemented where he meets investors to come back in these investors to feel comfortable making deals with people and so the intent are into russia. and this is the way. plus he is in jail after making business school with an american company insanely is a chart of embezzlement fraud was tight version of production of oil
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you know it doesn't get investors. you know of incitement to come over and make business with russia would you really think is really scares the next room incitement to do so. all i think it says it creates a different climate and that's probably what to what mccain wants to do i mean it's not in its seventh track corporation the internal operation of all and you'll powerful. i've decided on a i have the capacity to decide life and death with everyone as in toulouse. secondly up and saw chee as a brave as everyone wanted out. which is also very cool because he heavily invested in the stock to cover project on the money but also his personal reputation. and the fact that the you know the capital flight is a big change for the russian economy. mark was able to take on this is the southern interior of the clips again this week when i was interested of course because i mean awesome cousin to pursue writing because it's the pms and then
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there's the clinton days there will be because of their eastern areas. about two thousand people have been hardened among them is true it's not just when asked to write it's awesome to see riot the punk rock band that was jailed for blasphemy after singing a song. i think about him. it was the orthodox church and was going to sing in anti putin song in jail after that. so of course i'm as time has come in a very happy with and with such use i don't think kimi and undergoing his remarkable thing the pt really cares about the international opinion or even hostile to human. it's a winter game using the it's up to moscow in nineteen eighteen it was a summer game or use it enough to send someone to win some games. it isn't a factor in the debate i don't think he was amenable to the jester costume was so cheap. anyway
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this decision of my life now and it was so whenever he mentioned that tomorrow barak obama has final say oh maybe i could go on friday said that she wouldn't freeze he would expend in my skis i'm pulling for the duration and uncles give it isn't the important thing for the russians because this is the twenty two days to see him and even if he isn't answering american character for him mumble all. but let me say. haitian officials say is that it is to be a part in a human rights violation. yet the minute he too was a lawyer who died in prison and the bubbling needed to announce that she wouldn't extend this list which is very important full weekend and people in front of the tumor was so cheap. no but it's above the international image which i tend to think he really cares about is in some of the day he gets into the international image gets done deal in the nineties he does care of the international image but a superficial one. he doesn't want people to do some like
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it because it's a very specific sin only seem to understand gesture i won't attend the olympic games in the games is in the clean for the russians to it. simon and the best in years and was in the ukraine recently when georgia or syria. at any moment to have the feeling that the dream which he must be careful because his image than an inch. he is very careful us and that scares involved. he's a mate in russia and china concerning the international affairs said so how does this help him with these and the russians. isn't interactions fun. it isn't all that will be leaving the ration of an antique games and all this be the leaders will be absent this is kind of an inuit it's it's humiliation for putin question a second ago was relevant this is not going to bring that barack obama angle america the road. the kids and put them on skype directed to germany. he's in germany now. so even though they might change the opinion because nobody said that
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definitely a sick baby on the twenty one tomorrow and we can stomp on his seat we're talking about international opinion is it is as reflected in the eyes of the russians are up internally and i have one pushed into tiny tiny off lieutenant envisions a future where he would be the leader for russia. it is dishonorable of the euro asian empire with moral values. the themes he embodies their approach to what he called pseudo values of the west. so what do you think how much is that important he is in his belief in himself. as a leader stinky so sophisticated and that's what he means to grow up in the soviet union. did you know the content because he believed in something to open and he became sky in that old very old world system of launching its russian television and cinema and russian soviet cinema
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that timelines and statistics this in the seventies. was very good to see what team is in russia as he so it even the russian films with laurels completely him in a muslim. the fairytale peaks of the season was this country can be as he's going to bed time and that's i'm thinking of them the building and pronounced that he doesn't want russia to be humiliated in the grip of the soviet ambassador was humiliating. i was humiliated the loss of. he says the ins and outs as he is at least in law say it under the impression to be this important content they like to see ariel was other places home you can come and put them in spring the position you mentioned ukraineas the one interviewer says. and he says. that meant but it gives them a costly to europe he keeps ukraine within himself. you were mentioning
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it to. i've heard several commentators effects of the new week. i'm commenting that the planet that has been very adept at keeping and trying to build what would these commentators have described as the neo soviet union straight. he told the ex soviet countries. um on a on a fairly short leash and he managed to do that once again this week with ukraine. he essentially no kitchen no it's not all the words that mean what he did with you. an immediate better deal than they were going to get with the european union's look at the other thing that. on the twenty six and a testing that you'll fail. well it's not that way. it's the because they didn't already been over a team named one of the mission. no one to protest and ten. and that was clearly pro european edition that was in the closet against tuition creation can be pro european in the club the chickens and don't do anything. they
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made this for permission to replace the morris iemma to spend three months and this cold on my diamond. not only be or not do anything but nico took the initiative and started having partnership with ukraine started talking about brain ukraine into nato is the kind of thing. if you were russian. not even gonna put them. you look at that and say oh yes i want me to watch my friend t and that's exactly where i want them and i think that you can actually separate the sole european initiative from the major question in putin's mind. probably not in the ukrainians mind tornadoes of european union's clients as for the european perspective. um i think it's clear why is that in there who would want to keep ukraine we didn't have to have a trade deal with ukraine and keep those former soviet countries within his sphere of influence but what is at stake for the european union hear a lot of commentators have said the eu didn't really fight very hard to keep. two to three new clip ukraine closer but
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what's the use interest. i think i eat very often. in the west of its expression is still on the significance. we are conducted by opinions or by some media people. that puts presupposes values. so far ahead of politics and realpolitik. then people get carried away and say well we have to change this government in ukraine for example in the recent today the europeans said the door was still open and to stand on the inside. the city would not be. but first to ukraine doing a number of deals with the european union. and and and we say yes. the doors opened but we don't own that man is sick of each pepper cynical has been elected i'm not with massive fraud as far as i know. so what makes us so arrogant they became extinct in front of mr
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putin. so what is your one forty six million ukrainians added to the mix they can't be in trouble with greece they have trouble with portugal in the same the construction of europe then i could make this bill on the keys to a monetary union to pull construction of europe is made. the way that would have to go forward what can a direction would have to have some pleasant if the new projects would have to have new positive ideas and that it doesn't matter it doesn't meant the fleet she can but have to be on the right way to india after the event and a act. and then that meant that doesn't need to bring specific and the result is like this thirty four years full full full twenty s will be discussing it didn't bring anything but. during that time it was an important the shoes the icing to the result of his i've read the note written during his press conference said that it hits you is you don't read anything sticking them
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together. this is his the kevlar on the beattie government is supposed to come and i tried to read it it's nine hundred pages but that id monster when you get that lies at the faded as has been in my school yes like carry with it all on this subject that i'm interested there is not much specific decision to toll legal eighteen thirty he even turns well in advance. there are hectic and it's very very quickly some of us just a brief question and fifteen billion dollars that the country. mccain is taking away from our own sterilization from oil and heart the russian don't think this because it was supposed to fund their pensions. with that. they only have to go to embrace of the city from that when i get a picture but it is that you will get back the cartoonish than just a second will be discussing syria john kerry us and that
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the us state department was willing to talk to islamist rebels that didn't pan out we'll talk about that just suck the report says. seventy six remains a joint european union. i still get out of shape. the border fleece to another neighbor's house with free movement between eu states. maybe less but screw that can control its three thousand km. liam dollars have been interested in bucharest ultimo border surveillance cameras may get control of migration and trafficking across its borders the report says. all thoughts like that. i can't tell. just great. take a stand. note. defend your
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position. he is prepared to me. ciao. i speak the boat stunned the world. i live weekend was great and was composed and written details of a post he arrives in germany in sixteen years in a labor camp russia's most famous prisoner was free the department has officially this friday the russian president saying he was guided by the principles of you european leaders in brussels discuss the use defense policies also tries to drum up support for french troops in the central african republic. this violence has been reported in the baby continues to work for it in several neighborhoods of the capital french troops have increased their patrols his presence it's a denver up above warns of possible civil wars in admissions europe emergency
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consultations tens of thousands of civilians or seeking protection. and presidential elections in madagascar polls are no closed on the and the second round of voting the electoral commission an independent observers have to study instances the eye. all are. the world as we continue to show our guests is set to erupt in over a documentary filmmaker author of the day as part of russian power an investigation into the pits in the empire. christopher dickey is with us is will pass through to the daily beast of holding get from regular ol' was opposed to having here's some of you who is former paused the tv senior correspondent and amar and unravel a frank the syrian photojournalist of artists was going to be the first question on this one will go the first atlas discuss syria. and where to be. it was surprising development this week as
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the eye. john kerry said he was willing to speak with islamists and that didn't pan out in the end because they're the islamist rebel group the islamic front saturday didn't want to meet with u s representatives and now this comes as the is the miss rebel groups in the country have all been sidelined it was used to be the western backed opposition to free syrian army so does this mean that the islamists now hold the key to the future of syria. you know the sky. basically the same people who use to beat the sooners are meaner than just tension around or maybe it's just a matter of this will lead a political cause that a it is that the fsa want to topple the star on the side. there in the islamic front was to set up to an islamic rules and in the next area just behind him it's easy to simply cut the stem forces on the ground what happened. the reader chances from the european from the us i know we've been
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talking for two years of supporting it being red guy is the bomb being sent in the door and the enormity of the weapons etc etc and at the end. nothing really happened so the people of iran. we are excited we are exhausted. i have the feeling that it said. so of course the beaches to position the morrow. it is a tough hard enough so that some it's a call that significant consequence. off spinner and away. well yes but it's also quick to close are we talking about the islamic state that kerry was willing to talk to mrs lama spoke of when talking about is essentially being organized and funded by the saudis and into their tent. so to speak these fsa people and take people who may have tended to be affiliated with al qaeda say ok let's put together a big force of forty fifty thousand people and see if we can really do something that's attractive especially if there's a lot of saudi money coming into it that is not
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the most restaurant that is not. isis the other al qaeda affiliated group. the whole idea is to create this in the islamic way. that takes over the war. whether that's gonna work or not i don't know and i think that one of the problems. in syria. is that you are trying to pull together this a collaboration of all these little warlords who have different loyalties and different interests. and some of them including the guy is nominally the head of this islam is found. it seemed to have done some favors for the shire last night in the past just by doing certain extreme things in very strange things. so you could have a situation like that in algeria twenty years ago. or you don't know who the real rebels are and whom the rebels who were flying a false flag for the regime on or walk. as one of the reasons the american soap reluctant to get heavily involved in said it's special and fun man. that in certain places where. such forces are
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savagely bonding. civilians it still happens today going on. the headquarters of the islamic forces. some of them. just make sure the kid the action going and that civilians can blame the opposition to this feeds into the argument that the islamic rebel groups are actually in it since. i'm playing in the sun in the side's favor. and he needs this to continue so that he can paint a picture of the rebellion being dominated by business groups in and therefore hold back the bid in austin. as christopher when he pointed out that we can talk in general only because goes on so i missed the call of groups are different uses they have different partners tony's saudis and the parties in time scaly these are some more. on most
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introduced to them or cut and cut a half dose or syrians many of those who are foreigners and adored same attitudes and policies of bush and all decisions that had had some dealings of us with power because how can you be a syrian an escape from having had. at least some dealing with with the seventeen intelligence services. would it be elitist and a member of your family and to bring some money to a tool i use to civil servant or listen in your life. so you know this is an even more and more complex in the situation. for example in the old asian man and one at least you know. roughly lose hope. and this is pretty much like algeria has chris said except that this multiply the number of factions which just unreal. it only took two intelligence people don't tell you that this promise it tells you this that the present le mohammad brigade the scene brigade the whoever brigade an to
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deal with the situation they're not talking in jello nothing stops. no one has done with it. judaism the warrant its own because their members. i mean in two thousand and april two thousand and nine. and sitting with people from the hill to rush the sales charts of them they are already saying. we have to do it like a cheerio and it was there are things stink and you don't like ten years of service. susan warren like this and this one but it says that is going to stay. and they the regime. get down to the tune all day and they manage to afford. the opinion into today with the no one says the french monks were assassinated nobody's really into saying to them and where and how it is also a way remember the times the beginning of the of the war in iraq to iran held that the heat the scot free the number of people are
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supposed to be a course it's worse than the ones i'm ecstatic said the jury the government never on the city which is that it's better than that it is the front and didn't use chemical weapons and its time is this something that said that the fact that the us was interested in dialogue with the islamic front is that something is surprising. wall a little bit but what surprises me along why the west and the united states so late because testing that what happens this year and i think it's something very simple to say that it is old old old for america and the euro is why we waited for so long we owe twenty two she weighs now there was sam amy our unit papers that was semi new voices. two years ago saying let's help because solid and read these financing islamist lets finance let's keep our sleds. let's help them on
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the right. nothing happened in the leaking to the situation like in algeria like it was a cheeky i liked its only was it in the rock there is nothing surprising line. we are in the west oakland in a while. i'll tell you why we couldn't do it before on iraq. the united states was not going to get in up to its eyeballs again in the war in the middle east it's a simple is that that's the simple or complicated part is actually the role of the saudis are planning the saudis are allies of the united states close allies many respects it's on the saudis are playing this triangular war. on one hand the one stop iranian influence which they see reflected in her life at school. on the other hand they take the muslim brotherhood which has traditionally been the strongest opposition to the shariah. so they come in and they say. well the civilian leadership can have too many people from the muslim brotherhood in it so we don't hear month after month and fined the year after year we don't have many civilian leadership that makes any sense at all. it can be a conduit for anything
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meanwhile kason is not giving up the ridge line. if you look at what the state department and other people were saying the early days of the conflict was the bush i could be made in the eyes maybe if he could just get rid of all these things around him. things would be ok it was incredibly nice and self serving for the americans to try and take that approach but they didn't by the time they came around to their senses and realize that the sun was not in a levy was going to keep all the ups and murder a lot of his own people. it was too late to do anything with each incremental stage. they just made that decision. and yes if you know in the west's we still have the feeling that the us army team say that it's gonna cost. get rid of the chart. when you go to syria the main feeding on the ground and always with the stomach. it's a factions own groups. at the end they would have been sort of role was more like an animal or likeness was on in all of
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the us will end up being kind and is connected to protect the chalk onto the bench article is not such a bad doesn't it. the feeling of regret was that of course it's it's also the end they feel that. americans don't want. the sharp fall the truth unless they have a better idea of what's been replaced and so the russians and the russians feel the same impact as the coincidence of interests and to see what i find odd also with the european position. it is that we we were very strong. with saving lives we see it all the charlotte sun must go on anybody who knows the least realizes that the star is very strong he's very determined is brady's means that no one else and yet i could use an upcoming governments that are realized it was wishful thinking that
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we're going to do this. and on its august and now you know in fractional situations like that would have totally in the state. as if he pulls the mistake of options. a foreign power cannot come in and fix it. so we have to be able to rely on the people that can help. there were only two countries could help russia and iran. up to russia for reasons of law. probably cry because she was perhaps difficult. we did not try too to talk to them sufficiently or perhaps the price but you want it to the track was too high. and iran was not great because we had to strike a deal then he would talk to diplomats said look. we have to. we have to have these aloni arabia because they have influence. all these people the russians the saudis and the reviews have a lot more influence than we do the problem in between
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there's more ahead of twenty a syrian down. it's also true that in this town in time and whenever lot of foreign powers backing of different factions. the house to come a point where the people are just tired of dying. they just kind of fine they just don't have it in them anymore just what you saw in the balkans after three years four years of war of incredible carnage. yes i think it soon. but diplomats say. our lives let's move on to the topic this is an this week to our guests to tell me what they want to talk about so there's actually going to hijack what's left of the show and that some of the blues referred it to him talk about brussels and the hunted. for one there's often something very murky this is european defence policy and a dozen paulo lack there of. i guess. i walked into wanting to have top european help. and now. and now for central africa. you see where we having troops
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now trying to sort out and out of the eu summit now over i think we can say that also failed in getting extra well well no one expected he would use of the geopolitical problem is that the germans are looking east the brits are looking west and french are looking south. so it's a big problem. and then in europe we have only a few people that truly have a military capacity. see perhaps the polls will come on monday. so um. who will want to be able to pay for a military decision that he didn't finish it. she said this is what an impossible thing. and um so what paul bond did was to get a nice word on paper like this is gonna be a european nation it will be a european action but the bed and ella said hey wait a minute no disorders. and no payback
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because the light of day that's right in the day that the youth not to pay for this to not make this a while so it is this just individual countries will not pay. or will they have been sending something to the tune of a hundred and ten million euros the central african night of the corporation but that's it that's not for the french ministry of the operations of the humanitarian aid has also to help the african troops on the ground everything but the french troops must use the thing is another angle to it. i don't think there's an awful amount of respect to the indo european troopers to two well suited to or posturing. i think well it's posh may also for internal reasons and now. let's say the french president. does not want his opposition to say you are a lot. so he needs to show that he too needs to have some kind of a european conference there will be paying attention and you know we're not on this that i'd be doing something logistical than putting some
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money. not impressed. need i say kids. it's difficult even to mention ten from ten am and is twenty eight fronts takes the decision all by now to go to some fun interview with french soldiers who likes to look at the basis for this decision. and then to europe saying oh no we have this common european defence system lets not enough to support that the united states in the wizard rock try to have the approval of the united nations before polling day europe is not unique. well i can and cannot lie and say that we have to wait for the united nations to kr are but then again into a toddler. people getting into a book about my posture of the fall. i mean i i i die so they will come and gone are the saints' second base will be withheld because they were not consulted the community
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to have a clue on european policy. let's decide something first and then do it they'll see this in a christian i mean with twenty seven. and songs from any different. of course the committee. it's raining it's just follow this up. a number of military on the requirements are being taken up by a few countries and on the one in the french senator suggested that perhaps we should get a rebate. in terms of our european now. you know financial ceiling. so as to make things easier for defence department. your refund on its military operations indeed it did it too far in those operations you get one free with your while. not exactly a refund directly but some some kind of awe. and normally you in terms we we manage our deficit. in terms of european see links. let's see if you're interested in what christopher was interested in
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this week there christopher olympics for robots are fascinated by the latest robot what they can do what they can do well what i'm really into a war with vietnam one little word and i think that there's a fascinating debate going on in the school of robot olympics that god is taking place today and tomorrow in florida that is interesting as the defense research part of the beach the research part of the defense department the united states is falling rather extensively his effort to bring robots up to a level where they can perform human tasks in difficult situations. now the defense department is always saying it's like cinnamon to put to shame. and they can open vowels and they can operate in high radiation environment and you say haven't you know they can never tell people to send another part of the domino really what it's about. if you look to keep the people make these robots keep naming them after warriors the one most advances call the doctor a decided life and death on the battlefield. and that's what these. that's what
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ultimately these robots are really about. that's why the defendant ratings soldier of the twenty first pick of this entry there is a whole it's not just this time just robots in the twenty first century right now. it's as good and even new generation of drones tours they call them unmanned combat air vehicles are going to be essentially fighter bombers with no pilot. in the idea that you can control one of those in the air to air combat on the ground is insane. it's not a video game the things that will be deciding who lives and who dies in the air will be out the rhythms. eventually the same world that there's somebody by lifting the drone promoted it it all happens to the fact that they can think they can pilot the drone to them to the battle. once the battle starts it all happened much much too fast we see this on the ocean already is something like the ages. combat defense system on chips which is meant to react to missiles several missile attacks
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coming and we think there's a guy with a joystick saying there's a missile definitely not what makes those decisions will make the decision to go. the un has taken this up. they're there all these different acronyms for their lethal autonomous weapons lethal autonomous robots. all these kinds of things that they talk about with our theoretical right now so they won't be theoretical you send a robot into a hostile environment. where decisions have to be made quickly. and the algorithm will have to take care of that question is will there be humans in the loo. will they be on the loo. will they be out of four ounces of him. this is the way the top and the chances they'll start out in the loo. once you get into a really tense situation isn't it the nrl. and the whole direction of the darker reason is to get the robots to the point that they can carry out basic tasks on their own
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essentially reacting to different stimuli. on their own. i can't do it yet. by the time the next part of this challenge the finals comes out that the toward the end of twenty fourteen they are supposed to have the capacity of say a two year old child. where you say is what i'd like to do in the refrigerator open the door again and give me a bottle now. and they can do that. you can just as easily as he does not like it additionally refute a gun and pointed pull the trigger. but dr doesn't say that this really nice. to me something from the moment. and as a wedding to shoot him. it is time for and aniston were in yemen. is it made him go to norway human person right now to get it. he looks like an office worker and dedicated
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nevada. and she asked three times. information to fire then she pushes about an inch and one half cocked in combat in the meantime somebody is always pointing his gun but you know the end there have actually been reported instances of posts traumatic stress disorders of those. by the corrupt mri which prompted me to your topic that the rise of satirical news web sites and all. they're essentially sometimes being confused with real it has a problem. i mean the will of course there's going to be in a satirical news the more dense this was not that accessible i mean even in front of an auction it. it says the men before a five hundred thousand copies every week so it's not that it's not like a tv. use the program. but with the website's know there are of very famous the mm satirical web sites. he owned in the coffee and browse. and
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many of the onion on screen the problem a lot of people will warm up to where exactly so what's the on hugo boss he is the v fine on twitter or they find someone in the hearts of the news. they retreated as we hear news of the storm as fake and then from one to another to another. it doesn't mean i've seen in the thousands of new items that are are consumed in such a disconnected way if you don't go on the website of the onion in a review might not realize its satirical if you just get the ones that like the good news. and then what isn't any job gets passed on a seriousness and that it intends as we knew is su's use the minivan and very famous very serious st festivities all before scientists fear it might have been a thing about the robot the kids and olivia
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brussels the top european up the delegates bush attended the youth of the european parliament has voted themselves. flora station to go on pension at the age of fifty nine thousand euros a month pension. and it was the top and people took this seriously it was just out of the law showed up as anti european common stock on the net. it seeks to light the light of this says to myself and i just sent the story to our op spokeswoman ann arbor columbus correspondent andy just don't answer back tonight. it was just completely untrue. you are full for a moment. well you know i i thought about it. i suspect this is incredible and asked if events like a hoax or a rumor that i'm talking to dave and satirical you think something like france's recent be the next post on this kid has been appointed by the advisor to the serbian government. there was the serbian army and i remember the name may have made that saved his first advice to the narrow loss to utah to hire more women of
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course it's a joke but it was on the studio some other very serious offence as you can say the first of august. this was because my commute in the middle of the sedan former imf chief was that i can't see it before the french presidential election was shot down reports. after what happened with him in his son tj lunar new year hotel room. this is a joke was that he advised serve in. when i needed to hire more with these money is going to turn it into the rich. it speeds up and at times like these so i think we really have to ask this in the lower portion or similar logo or something. i suggested. he's just a basic minimum temperature. it's pretty awesome sometimes if you aren't as the story was the site storage costs when you realize. funny if things
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