tv DW News PBS April 30, 2018 6:00pm-6:30pm PDT
brent: this is "dw news," live from berlin. tonight, the evidence for the world and donald trump to see. israel says iran lied about nuclear weapons program. iran says israel is crying wolf. prime minister benjamin netanyahu's presence what he says is proof that iran is expanding its range of nuclear -give double missiles, days before the president will decide the fate of the iran nuclear deal. germany is calling for an immediate investigation into israel's allegations. also coming up, deadly blasts in
afghanistan and coordinated suicide bombings leave a trail of bloodshed, leaving half of couple. could there be an athletic trade war transatlantic trade war -- could there be a transatlantic trade war? brent: i'm brent goff. it is good to have the widow's. we begin with israel and what it calls an intelligence coup. prime minister benjamin netanyahu went on primetime tv to present what he says is proof that iran has always lied about its nuclear weapons program. tehran issuing a clear rejection, saying the israeli prime minister is doing nothing but crying wolf. here in europe, germany's defending the nuclear deal and is called for an immediate
investigation into netanyahu's claims. here is part of what the israeli prime minister said earlier today. prime minister netanyahu: integrate intelligence achievement, israel -- in a great intelligence achievement, israel obtained half a ton of the material inside these volts. here is what we got. 55,000 pages. another 55,000 files on 183 cd's. incriminating documents, incriminating charts, incriminating presentations, incriminating blueprints, incriminating photos, incriminating videos, and more. so this is a terrible deal. it should never have been
concluded. and in a few days' time, president trump will decide -- will make his decision on what to do with the nuclear deal. i'm sure he will do the right thing, the right thing for the united states, the right thing for israel, and the right thing for the peace of the world. brent: i'm joined at the table by middle east analyst daniel gerlach. good to see you again. i think the evidence presented by netanyahu is meant for one person and one prison only today, donald trump. would you agree with that statement? daniel: absolutely. the holstein of the word "incriminating -- whole style of the presentation -- he used the word "incriminating" seven or eight times in a row. the public diplomacy of trying to convince a foreign
leader -- we have not seen it coming out of israel before, and he is adapting to the style of donald trump. brent: what exactly did prime minister netanyahu reveal? do we know exactly what he is claiming? daniel: well, he is explaining -- this is very recent news so i couldn't go into the details from even the very few details that have come out yet, but they discovered intelligence in a spectacular intelligence coup. it is not as if the israeli intelligence agencies haven't acquired sensitive material out of iran before. but very scientific image -- what happened is if somebody went to another president said you should divorce your wife because she is not important for command the person asks back, do you have any evidence she is cheating on me, and you say, no, but she didn't tell you that before you married her she
worked as a prostitute so she cannot be faithful and your marriage is built on lies. most of the information netanyahu is referring to is before the iran deal actually concluded. brent: 1999 to 2003. daniel: that is why he says the deal is based on lies. i don't know, his own intelligence agencies have contradicted netanyahu a couple of times, and so has the international atomic agency in vienna. i can't tell you anything about the dutch have substantial this intelligence is, but -- i cannot so you anything about how substantial this diligence is, but it is about the decision donald trump will take next week. brent: we cannot identify the evidence, so if we assume it is legitimate from it suggests that tehran has been playing the west all along. if that is the case, how can any deal incredible with tehran? is just be -how can any deal be
credible with tehran? is that the doubt that netanyahu is throwing out for mr. trump to see? daniel: absolutely. there is doubt on many sides, and there's another problem here. emmanuel macron and angela merkel went to washington to convince mr. trump not to do certify the deal, because it is not only part of the european foreign-policy legacy, but wanted if you successful multilateral approaches, and it worked so far, apparently. the problem is that trump -- mark on and merkel have both offered to donald trump to look at the deal and come up with a new deal, gratified american unilateralism in the name of preserving multilateral decisions. this is a difficult case here. that is why many in europe say we have to give something to trump in order to save the deal, support him in rolling back iranian influence in the region. others say that if you do this,
we will become -- lose our credibility in the middle east and with the iranians. brent: i'm wondering about the timing of the revelation. we heard people immediately saying that the information is being revealed to persuade donald trump to decide a certain way. you could look at it that way. what about perhaps to support a decision that has already been made? daniel: not so sure if this decision has already been made. it would happen much more comfortable for trump to say we will give europeans more time to come up with a better deal. he likes the tm "deal" a lot. also gerard ranges cabinet -- also to ranges cabinet -- pompeo , john bolton, people knew in his office -- brent: do you think he is try to pressure trump to force his hand? daniel: how beastly that is what he is doing.
maybe in a few months time -- obviously that is what houston. maybe in a few months time netanyahu will not be in office. he is in berlin corruption charges. he has been a she has -- he is embroiled in corruption charges. he has been interviewed by the police several times. maybe he wants to preserve his legacy -- brent: before he leaves. how much of this has to do with the control of syria, and also, iran's nuclear energy body today admitted that iran can out in which uranium -- enrich uranium and a higher level than when the deal took effect, and it warned president trump not to forget that when he races decision. that is a very ominous threat. daniel: it is. the iranians have said before that if president trump the certifies the deal -- de is
faced certifies the deal, there would be a harsh and imminent reaction. brent: what does that mean? they always of they don't want the bombs. if they don't want obama -- if they don't want to the bomb, why make statements about enriching uranium? daniel: it is absolutely inconsistent. it may be psychological warfare. supreme leader, many leaders in iran say a nuclear bomb is not complying with their ideology, their religious values. but yes, it is questionable, and there is trust in no site at the moment. brent: trust is definitely rare at the moment. daniel gerlach, good to have you and your insights. let's take a story to washington. our correspondent is standing by. has there been any reaction from the white house to this? reporter: yeah, president trump himself today in a press conference said that what prime
minister netanyahu told the international public confirmed that he was always right in his skepticism about iran and the nuclear deal. otherwise, there has been a rather muted reaction. i guess a lot of people are just waiting to see how credible the evidence that mr. netanyahu presented really is before making judgments. people have noted the coincidence that after mr. pompeo was in the middle east and the israeli prime minister went forward and made this announcement, in a special appearance on israeli tv, one interesting point, i just read that reporters talked to the american defense minister, general mattis, and apparently he met the israeli defense minister last week on thursday, and mattis apparently told
reporters he had not discussed iran with the israeli defense minister, and apparently had not been told about this new evidence, this alleged new evidence. that is quite interesting. a lot of experts, just as daniel gerlach just a settlement have pointed out that a lot of the stuff that prime minister netanyahu talked about, his own news is from a time before the iran nuclear deal was signed. brent: also, picking up on what daniel had mentioned, was the intention of this revelation today to pressure the u.s. president to kill the nuclear deal on may 12? are you hearing that in washington? carsten: well coming don't think that donald trump really needs to be pressured, because from what we heard after his meetings with french president macron and german chancellor angela merkel last week, it looks like this
the impression of those leaders was that president trump seems pretty determined to pull out of the iran nuclear deal. it is more like this gives donald trump another justification to do just that, not so much that the pressure has to be put on him. netanyahu and trump are pretty much aligned in the skepticism towards iran. brent: carsten, thank you. in afghanistan, at least 25 people have been killed, scores injured in two back to back suicide attacks in the capital, kabul. another blast in kandahar province to the south left shoulder and that come and in a third attack in the east, the bbc says one of its afghan reporters was killed. in the kabul attacks, nine journalists and four police officers were among those who died. the so-called islamic state has claimed responsibility.
reporter: the two suicide bombers struck in the central area near nato headquarters in the afghan defense ministry, staggering the blasts for maximum effect. after a motorcyclist set off the first expression, another attacker embedded with journalists running to the scene detonated a second device. the enemy was posing as a cameraman. he detonated his explosives among our group of journalists in the area. in the resulting explosion, a number of our journalists and people and passersby, including nearby residents who work a -- were gathered at the scene, were wounded and martyred." one of the dead was afp's chief photographer in kabul. some three dozen journalists have died in attacks since 2016. reporters without borders said this was the single deadliest day for journalists since the
taliban were driven out of kabul in 2001. "i was about 10 meters away from the side of the first explosion trying to get there when the second blast happened. it was very powerful. when i finally got there, i've found many of my fellow reporters lying on the ground, some of them dead already. the afghan government has pledged repeatedly to improve security in the capital, but hundreds have already died in attacks since the start of this year. brent: here are some of the other stories making headlines around the world. a delegation of the un security council has arrived in myanmar as they investigate alleged ethnic cleansing of rohingya muslims. they will meet aung san suu kyi before visiting rakhine state. thousands of people have protested in moscow against the blocking of the messaging app telegram. authorities began blocking the service earlier this month.
the company is refusing to share the keys to its data encryption come with authorities citing privacy concerns. iran has joined russia in blocking telegram. all right, as we asked how close are we tonight to a trade war. reporter: it always has to go down to the wire in washington. really high octane. right now the countdown is upon us. from tomorrow, european counties could face u.s. tested the tune of 25% on steel and 10% when it comes to aluminum, unless an exemption is extended and becomes permanent. that is what the eu leaders are hoping for. both france's macron and a germany's merkel pleaded with trouble last week, but came home without any assurances. reporter:u.s. and eu representae scrabbling to find a last-minute
agreement to avoid introduction of punitive tariffs that the u.s. the americans expect concessions, saying they have been unfairly treated when comes to trade with the eu. i munich-based institute study tariffs on 5000 products to compare the eu and u.s. tax each other. the results -- there are considerably higher barriers for u.s. products entering the eu than vice versa. on average, europeans charge a 5.2% levy as opposed to just 3.5 by the americans. u.s. beef is especially hard hit. it is taxed at 68%. the u.s. charges of 49% levy on european tobacco products, and 22% on trucks. experts suggest lowering import duties on both sides. while that would reduce european customs revenue, it would certainly be cheaper than starting a trade war. "it is an error to think you
can fight protectionism with protectionist policies. it is like trying to tackle stupidity with stupidity." if the conflict intensifies, people could end up losing jobs as a result. helena: with me now is an economic historian and professor at columbia university in new york. thank you for being with us. president trump has touted protectionist policies and visits from both micro -- macron and merkel failed to draw promises on exception. can we expect trump to follow through and implement tariffs on the european union? >> it is very hard to predict the behavior of the trump administration. those who attempted to do so in recent months generally fail. but on the basis of the evidence so far and the sides of the last couple of weeks, we have to expect an escalation. helena: say he did, then.
would those address the trade imbalance? general prices of european goods could rise in the united states. >> certainly prices of european goods would rise. we have seen increases in prices for but all aluminum and steel just with the announcement of the tariffs. whether or not this will address the trade imbalance, one has to be extremely skeptical. trade imbalances on the result not of individual price differentials or competitiveness issues, but macroeconomic imbalances, and excess of demand in the united states relative to domestic supply and the converse in the eurozone, where domestic demand is insufficient to meet the productive potential of the eurozone. the result is an imbalance which shows up in the payment accounts on the two sides. it is not something you can expect putting tariffs and taxes on particular goods. helena: the understanding from
you is that these tariffs would it not be a particularly effective way to address the trade imbalance. what would be a sensible way of tackling it? it is problematic for the united states. it is extremely large. adam: we could regard -- we should regarded as problematic for europe, too. the fact that the eurozone depends to the extent it does on the account surplus is an effective -- is an act for effective the eurozone crisis. this is a two-sided story. an effective policy would work on both sides. it is also, given the size of the eurozone and the u.s. economy is a global issue -- the problem is to see a rebalancing between excessive demand in the united states and inadequate demand and the eurozone. it would have to act on both sides. it would require probably fiscal tightening in the u.s. and fiscal loosening in the euro zone. as soon as you say that, you realize the profound obstacles that stand in the way of a solution. neither side is seriously
interested in addressing the problem at that level. helena: very briefly, trump says trade wars are good, the u.s. will win. does anyone ever when trade wars? adam: yes, you can win a trade war, but as an industrial sector that benefits from it, or in the case of the message from an economy broadly speaking that then --in the case of the united states, and economy broadly speaking that can support itself. we cannot think that any deviation represents a disastrous slide towards inefficiency. there are imbalances in trade that need to be addressed. helena: adam tooze of columbia university in new york, good to hear your thoughts. back to brent for an update on the situation as the u.s. border, hundreds of migrants from central america after very arduous much-publicized journey. brent: exactly right, helen.
they want to cross the border tonight. officials have stopped hundreds of a silent seeker's from entering the country after the heavily anticipated arrival. i of men, women, and children have made a much-publicized journey from central america hoping to reach the united states near san diego. but the group has been left frustrated and angry after officials of the border crossing refused to process the applications. president trump previously argued against allowing the migrants to enter, describing mass migration as a security threat. reporter: it has been a long ride for these asylum seekers. over 4000 kilometers for many of them. now they must wait. u.s. border authorities say they are at full capacity, and processing asylum claims -- some members of the caravan are stopped on the mexican side of the fence. >> i'm going to turn myself in with my three children. i have heard it is possible we
got separated from our children. we are afraid of that. we wish we didn't have to go through that. but it is better than going back to my country to be killed. reporter: since their journey began in late march, u.s. president donald trump repeated the order the caravan to turn around. now 150 markets are camped out at the border crossing at tijuana, mexico come waiting for authorities to accept their asylum requests. >> american officials will not accept anybody yet. we have six children. we have a young lady in a wheelchair. and, well, it is a very tough situation. reporter: traveling in caravans is common for migrants hoping to reach the u.s. it offers strength in numbers for the risky journey across mexico. yet this year the group of northbound buses became a flash
point in the debate about immigration. migraines are permitted under u.s. law to cross the border to apply for asylum. but in this political climate, it is uncertain how many will be allowed to stay. brent: one to pick up this part of the story now with a political commentator and nationally syndicated radio host who joins me from los angeles. good to see you again. you are very close to where this story is happening. immigrants arrive at the u.s. border every day. do we know -- who are these people, and what is different about this caravan? >> it is very interesting -- not only am i close, vice president mike pence as close as well, two hours away in calexico. what is different about this group is it is an organized caravan, and annual caravan. one of the groups behind it that organizes it is organizing it, as you have already heard, to protect them during their travels.
central america is suffering from a time with that is looking for war zone in terms of the homicide rate. these people are is giving a violent criminal gangs, skipping a government that is not functioning or protecting them. thehas been a destination for asylum seekers for -- the united states has been a destination for asylum seekers were hundreds of years now. we have a president who won an election based partially on the idea of rejecting people from central america, rejecting refugees, and rejecting asylum seekers. brent: people around the world looking at this must be wondering what is this particular group tracking so much attention. would it have been better if this group had tried to move towards the border under the radar? ethan: well, groups that are behind it what to bring attention to the fact that the united states, especially under president trump -- let's be
honest, president obama did a lot of deportations as well -- really is rejecting our idea, the american ideal of bringing immigrants, bringing a silent seekers, -- bringing asylum seekers, bringing refugees in. they want to highlight what the trumpet ministership is doing now and appealing to this protectionist right wing element in the united states can which a lot of americans are buying into now. sadly, they are using imagery coming from countries like germany and hungary and isolated images like that to stir up this national sentiment -- nationalist sentiment and anti-immigration sentiment. there are groups that are trying to fight that commend that is what they're are doing by bringing all of this attention to what is a relatively small caravan of 180 asylum seekers. brent: is there a proper discussion going on in the united states about what a
reasonable and proper immigration policy would look like? i can imagine that viewers wherever they are in the world say the u.s. has a right, every country has a right to secure its borders. why aren't americans talking about that instead of what appears to be demonizing a caravan of people trying to escape terrible crime? >> well, again from our current president began his campaign by demonizing what i call the other. really appealing to austrian psychologist call -- carl jung calls the shadow. the debate is not happening in a rational fashion in the united states for it is a highly emotional one. president trump has completely shut down syrian immigration, the refugees from the war zone in syria. under president obama in 2016 we had 15,000.
so far this year we had 11 syrian refugees. it is a hyper nationalistic fear of the other that is going on, and sadly, i can't say we're having a rational debate about it. we have two emotional, polarized sides that are arguing about it, and a group of essentially nativists refusing the idea that our country is built on the idea of accepting refugees, asylum seekers, and immigrants. brent: we have to wrap it up there. we're out of time. ethan, thank you. ethan: thanks, brent. brent: i will be back next with the day. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
elaine: the latin american country of peru is well known for its andean culture, cutting-edge cuisine, but also something more sinister: counterfeit money production. i'm elaine reyes in washington, d.c., and this is "americas now." first up, counterfeit money production has become a big illegal business in peru. authorities are on the lookout for forging factories printing fake u.s. dollars, then slipping them into circulation. enrique: i would say it's, like, about--they make, like, $10 million per day face value in--in u.s. dollars, so that's, like, about $3,600 million per year. [man speaking spanish] elaine: one counterfeiter takes correspondent dan collyns behind the scenes for a look at his production process.