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  This Week With George Stephanopoulos  ABC  November 22, 2015 8:09am-8:21am PST

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look who the republican voters trust to handle terrorism, donald trump. let's bring in mr. trump right now. he joins us on the phone. you just heard those numbers, donald trump. is the nomination now yours to lose? >> i don't know. i don't think about that. i think about the date, february 1st, that's iowa and then we have new hampshire. we're doing great in both pla places. i think i'm leading in every state. but we're doing really well. i was happy to hear your numbers. i'm not surprised. people are tired, they're sick and tired of incompetence and sick and tired of stupid people leading them. the deals they make, whether it's trade or dealing with isis. everything is wrong. i was after the oil. i said attack the oil, i have been telling you that for two years, attack the oil. they didn't do it. isis became wealthy with the oil. now they're starting to attack the oil. >> you stirred up those comments with the database, are you
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now ruling out a database on all muslims? >> no, not at all. i want a database for the refugees that, if they come into the country, we have no idea who these people are, when the syrian refugees start pouring into this country, we don't know if they're isis or a trojan horse, i definitely want a database and other checks and balances. we have no idea who's being sent in here. this could be the great trojan horse of all time. probably not. when they come in. when i look at the migration and the lines and i see all strong, very powerful-looking men, they're men, and i see very few women and children, there's something strange going on. when you see what's happening in europe, lot of bad things are happening in europe. just ask the folks that live in germany. lot of bad things are happening. >> but statistics do show -- >> george, we want to be
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vigilant. we have to be vigilant and we have to call it radical islamic terror. we have a president that won't even issue the term. when the syrians come in, or if they're going to come in, we have to be very, very vigilant and a database would be fine for them and a watch list is fine. we have to watch and see. they should not come in, by the way, they should not be allowed in. >> just for the record, though, the statistics do show majority of the refugees coming in are women and children. you also told yahoo! news, we have to do things that are unthinkable a year ago. do you think we should bring back enhanced interrogation like waterboarding? >> well, we have to be strong. they don't use waterboarding. they used chopping off people's heads. and they put people in cages and they drown them in the ocean. ened we're talking about waterboarding.
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we have -- i would bring it back, yes, i would bring it back. i think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they're doing us. what they did to james foley, that's a whole different level. i would absolutely bring back interrogation and strong interrogation. >> you also said we have to consider closing mosques. jeb bush called that a sign of weakness. >> well, jeb bush is a weak person, that has been defined very strongly. i mean, jeb bush is a weak person -- i call him a low-energy person. you can call him anything you want. jeb is a person that will not a solve a problem like this. you have very, very tough people that you're dealing with, they only understand strength, they don't understand weakness. somebody like jeb, and others that are running against me and, by the way, hillary clinton is another one, hillary is a person who doesn't have the strength or the stamina in my opinion to be president. she doesn't have strength or stamina, she's not a strong enough person to be president.
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>> what would be your criteria to close a mosque? >> we're dealing with very, very strong people and you need strength and you need stamina. hillary does not have that. >> what would be your criteria to closing mosque? your top priority would be to preserve and protect liberties, is that only for christians? what are your criteria? >> i don't want to close mosques. i want to surveil mosques. we were doing in new york city for a while -- >> all mosques? >> well, i do -- there are certain hotspots, and let me tell you, the people that are involved in those mosques, they know who the bad ones are and the good ones, but they don't talk, and we have to surveil the mosques. we were doing it until de blasio closed them up in new york city. we were doing it recently.
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we have to surveil the mosques. we were learning a lot and they were stopping problems and potential problems by learning what was happening. hey, look, i don't want to close up mosques but things happen where you have to use strong measures or you're going to see buildings coming down. >> you want to keep terror watch list. under current law, individuals under the watch list have been allowed to buy guns and explosives, are you okay with that? >> we have to have a watch list, and if that watch list has somebody, you know, we have the laws right now, we have the laws already on the books, second amendment of guns. i'm a really big proponent of the second amendment. i'll give you an example, if in paris some of those people, if you had some of those people had guns, you wouldn't have had the horror show that you had --
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>> but why should somebody on the watch list have a gun? >> people are on a watch list, people are sick, you have already -- this is already covered in the legislation that we already have, george -- >> under current law, people on the watch list are allowed to buy guns. >> listen, george, if we have an enemy of state, i don't want to give him anything, i want to have him in jail. that's what i want. i want to have him? jail. but if those people in paris had guns in that room it would have been a shootout and very few people would have been hurt by comparison to number were hurt. >> yes or no, should someone on the terror watch list be allowed to buy a gun? >> if somebody is on a watch list and enemy of state, i would keep him away, absolutely. >> you raised some eyebrows with comments you made at your latest rally relating to 9/11. i want to show them. >> hey, i watched when the world trade center came tumbling down and i watched in jersey city,
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new jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down, thousands of people were cheering. >> you know, the police say that didn't happen at all. those rumors have been on the internet for some time. did you misspeak yesterday? >> i saw it. >> you saw it with your own eyes? >> there were people who were cheering on the other side of jersey, where you have large arab populations, they were cheering as the world trade center came down. but there were people cheering as those buildings came down. that tells you something. it was well covered at the time, george. i know they don't like to talk about it. there were people over in new jersey watching it, heavy arab population. they were cheering as the buildings came down. not good. >> the police say they didn't happen.
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>> i wouldn't to move on. rivals have pounced on your database comments. a superpac supporting john kasich launched this attack ad against you. >> on the job training doesn't work. benghazi, beheadings, paris. our lives depend on a commander in chief with experience who understands the world. >> clear implication is that you don't, what is your response to that ad? >> john kasich is going nowhere, he was at the head of lehman, one of the top people at lehman, he's going nowhere. anybody who does an ad against me will be hit ten times. look, they want to do it because i'm leading. you just came out with the poll that says i'm leading. because people are sick and tired of stupid and incompetent people leading our nation. we have incompetent people, when
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president obama stands up and says isis is contained and, then a few hours later you have one of the most horrible attacks, and you have 300 people laying in the hospital, many of them dying, we have no idea, then he wants to take in people who have no documentation, no paperwork, no anything, from syria on the migration, people are going to come pouring in, and the number he wants is much higher than 10,000. i've heard it's 200,000. that's the real number he wants. i have even heard 250,000. we have a president that doesn't know what he's doing. we have a president, george, who's totally incompetent. >> that number is our refugees, but finally, that superpac is not alone. front-page story in "the wall street journal" talks about gop operatives promising to launch a guerrilla campaign against trump. they're going to have the first attempt to unite donors from rival camps into single
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anti-trump force. if that happens, are you going to reconsider an independent run if they try to take you out? >> we'll see what happens. it will be very interesting, but i'm leading every poll a lot. i resonate with the people. i had 10,000 people yesterday, every place i go, if crowds smaller than 10,000 it's like a small crowd for me. nobody else can get 200. i mean jeb bush and these guys, kasich, if he speaks, if he gets 20 people in a room it's a lot of room. i get crowds of 6,000, 10,000, 20,000, i had a 35,000 crowd in alabama. well, i'm going to have to see what happens. i'll see what happens. i have to be treated fairly. i have to be treated fairly. if i'm treated fairly i'm fine. all i want to do is a level playing field. i think people are surprised that, you know, their politicians and they have been doing this stuff all their lives. i have been a job producer, i
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have done fabulous developments all over the world. i have made a lot of money. that's the kind of thinking we need in office, that's the kind of thinking we need in washington. and that's why people are resonating with me. they know there's a great level of competence. we have a great level of incompetence right now in washington. frankly, we have a lot of incompetent politicians running for office. and they don't understand, how can an outsider be doing so well within the party. when i was a contributor, i know more about contributions than anybody. i contributed at the top of the line. but now, all of a sudden, i'm somebody -- they're a little bit, i guess, they can't understand what's happening. but what's happening is very simple. people want competence now. they're tired of incompetent people. it's as simple as that. >> mr. trump, thanks for your time this morning. >> thank you very much. up next, ben carson. plus, in depth analysis from martha raddatz on ho