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starting right now on "this week" with george stephanopoulos. war of words. >> hillary clinton is a bigot. >> a man with a long history of racial discrimination should never run our government. >> both candidates trading the toughest jabs yet. as donald trump makes a blunt appeal to minority voters. >> what the hell do you have to lose? give me a chance. >> after a big flip on immigration -- >> there certainly can be a softening. >> -- where does trump really stand? and can clinton answer new questions about donors to her foundation? this morning, key supporters on each side. new jersey governor chris christie. and dnc chair donna brazile, live. plus, a nation divided. >> what do you look for when you're patrolling?
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>> soldiers on guard. a growing refugee e population. and persistent fear. how france is fighting the terror threat. from abc news, it's "this week" here now, co-anchor martha raddatz. good morning. we've come to expect harsh rhetoric in this campaign. this week may have been one of the ugliest weeks so far. the candidates unleashing heated words about race, bigotry, and intolerance. donald trump chasing the minority vote and hurling a blistering accusation at his opponent. >> hillary clinton is a bigot who sees people of color -- only as votes, not as human beings, worthy of a better future. she's going to do nothing for african-americans. she's going to do nothing for the hispanics.
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>> hillary clinton tying trump to the so-called alt-right movement. >> donald trump has built his campaign on prejudice and paranoia. he's taking hate groups mainstream and helping a radical fringe take over the republican party. >> but both candidates also facing problems of their own making this week. the democratic nominee dogged by new charges of inappropriate access given to clinton foundation donors while she served as secretary of state. and trump, now seeming to waffle on a cornerstone campaign promise. it's been a signature theme since day one. >> they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. >> trump promised to deport every immigrant here illegally, even families and children. >> they're going to go with
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them. >> you have to send the whole family? >> sure, it has to be a family unit. >> reporter: and how exactly would trump deport an estimated 11 million people? >> you're going to have a deportation force. you're going to do it humanely. >> reporter: then, this week, at a town hall of fox news. >> there certainly could be a softening, because we're not looking to hurt people. you have somebody that's been in the country for 20 years, has done a great job, has a job, everything else. okay. do we tell these people to get out, number one? or, do we work with them and let them stay in some form? >> reporter: on thursday, trump tried to clarify. >> you used the word softening. last night, you talked about -- >> i don't think it's a softening. i think it's -- >> but 11 million people are no longer being deported? but then 11 million people that have not committed a -- >> we're then going to -- >> a path to legalization? >> you know it's a process. you can't take 11 at one time and just say, boom, you're gone. >> reporter: saturday in iowa, trump changed tack. >> in recent days, the media, as it usually does, has missed the
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whole point on immigration. they have missed the point. >> reporter: offering a series of new, specific policies to make america less hospitable to undocumented workers. using e-verify. to deny them jobs. cutting them off social services. aggressively going after criminal gangs. violent criminals make up a small fraction of the 11 million undocumented immigrants. what will happen to the rest? those trump has long promised he would round up and deport? i'm joined now by governor chris christie, a former presidential candidate and one-time trump opponent now the chair of trump's transition team. and governor, let me start with the simple question, will donald trump try to deport all undocumented workers or just those he refers to as the bad ones? >> listen, i think that he's been very clear on this. we're not going to have amnesty. what we're going to do is to get those who are breaking the law out of the country.
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as quickly as possible. to make sure then that you deal with people, in a humane way. i think that's what he's been saying. he's been saying that, i think, for as long as i've been listening to him of late. that's what he's going to do. >> dealing with them in a humane way. does that mean taking all of those 11 million undocumented workers, pushing them out of the country? >> well, i think what he has said is that people are not going to be eligible for legalization or citizenship unless they leave the country. um, and get back in line. now, there's going to be, you know, some decisions he's going to have to make as president regarding those folks. i think what he's said is, first, let's get all of the bad actors out of the country. i think that's really important. then he wants to look at it and deal with it in a humane way. quite frankly, i think this is the kind of thing that people expect from a president of the united states. that he'll approach things smartly and confidently.
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i'm confident that that's exactly what a president trump would do. >> would you acknowledge that that sounds like a softening from his original statements about getting everyone, 11 million undocumented workers out of the country with a deportation force? >> i think the key to this, martha, the way to look at it is that this is a guy who has been very consistent on no amnesty, no legalization for folks who have come into the country illegally. that's always been the underpinning of his policy, along with the building of the wall on the united states-mexican border. those things have remained completely consistent. i think what you expect of every candidate, and ultimately the president is to listen to the facts and to deal with things in a way that is smart and direct. i'm confident that that's exactly what president trump will do. >> do you think this will turn off some of his supporters who originally liked the idea of getting everyone out of the country no matter what? >> no, i think what it's going to do is put a greater highlight on the fact that hillary clinton has a 100-day amnesty plan where everybody here, no matter if
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you've been a criminal or not, no matter how you got here or not, is going to wind up becoming american citizens under hillary clinton's plan. i think when voters look at that, they'll say, that's not what we want to happen in this country. this is a binary choice. the approach donald trump takes or the approach that hillary clinton takes. not some other approach. the clinton approach is unacceptable. it's unlawful. it's one that voters who have supported donald trump from the primary going forward will not turn around and support. they're going to want to make sure they do everything they can to keep hillary clinton out of the white house, that will mean voting for donald trump on november 8th. >> former new york major rudy giuliani told a new jersey publication that trump is softening his stance and that's partially because of your prodding him to do that. did you recommend this? >> ow. martha, listen.
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i've been the governor for nearly seven years. i find that the people who are my best advisors are the people who are smart enough to give me good advice and smart enough to keep their mouth shut about what advice they give me. if i want advisers that way, that's the kind of adviser i'm going to be to donald trump. i have said consistently. the advice i give to donald is to donald. that's based upon our friendship over the last 14 years and the way i would expect. rudy can talk about whatever he wants the talk about. he's my friend. i like him a lot. but i don't talk about the advice i give to donald trump. >> let's turn to the subject of race. as part of his outreach to african-americans, he's talked about their life as being marked by crime, poverty. violence. the vast majority of african-americans do not live like that. many found those words offensive. do you find that an appropriate outreach? >> i think that when you have any folks in our population who live under the threat of violence and crime, who don't have the opportunity that others have because the schools in our urban areas are a dreaded
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failure, because of the positions that hillary clinton has taken and the people who support her, then i think any candidate should speak out to say that that type of thing is unacceptable. i think what donald is saying is that it's unacceptable to him that members of the african-american community, and i'm sure he'll say this about other communities as well, who live in violence, are subject to that, do not have the educational opportunities that every child in this country should have so they can reach their fullest potential, that that's unacceptable. and what he's saying is that a trump presidency will address those kinds of things head on, without caving to special interests, like the teachers' union. which mrs. clinton has sold out to. she's reversed positions because of her selling out to the teachers' union. >> you had no problem with donald trump's language on that? on the reach out to the minority community? no problem? >> i like -- my view is you have to look at what the message is. the message is that if anybody
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lives in those circumstances in this country, that's something the government should be working to try to change. and donald trump is not going to give in to the special interests in this country, like the teachers' union who say sub standard education in our urban areas can only be fixed by giving it more money. that's all they're going to do about it. not change the underlying problems that we have on violence, we need to support our police officers and make sure that community policing becomes something that becomes the standard across the country. these are the things donald trump has talked about. >> speaking of violence, there was another tragic shooting on friday. the cousin of nba star dwyane wade caught in the crossfire and killed while pushing a stroller. and this is what trump tweeted. he said, dwyane wade's cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in chicago. just what i have been saying. african-americans will vote trump. four hours later, he tweeted his condolences. is that an appropriate way to say, vote trump?
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>> if people want safe streets, they want police supported, then they should vote for donald trump, because that's what he'll do. he'll appoint an attorney general who will send clear messages about how law enforcement is to be pursued in this country. we have seen liberal policies in cities like chicago and new york and others have led to increased crime. and martha, the fact of the matter is, we need to have a very clear message. we haven't had that from the current president. we've seen the violence in his home city of chicago. you all focus on process. you all focus on process, martha, instead of the message. the message is, that that type of thing happening, let's focus on what happened. what happened was the murder, the murder of this person pushing a stroller. it's unacceptable in an american city to continue to have this level of violence. and the level of violence in chicago is unacceptable. that's what donald trump has said. that's what he'll change when he's president of the united states.
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>> he called hillary clinton a bigot this week. do you believe that hillary clinton is a bigot? >> i'll tell you this. um, this type of discourse in the campaign is just unwarranted. but it was started by mrs. clinton. mrs. clinton has started the idea of calling donald trump those type of names. the fact is, once you are the person, and mrs. clinton is the person that injected this type of commentary into this race. once you inject this type of commentary into the race, you can't sit back and start complaining about it or have some of your hand maidens in the media complain about it. the fact is that she's been the person who started this type of conversation in the campaign. she should be ashamed of herself. >> okay, thanks very much for joining us this morning, governor christie. >> great to be with you, martha. have a good weekend. we turn to the clinton campaign, facing the fresh questions about the clinton foundation. let's bring in donna brazile, interim chair of the democratic national committee.
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and donna, you heard what chris christie just said. he said it's hillary clinton's fault. she started it. >> well, first of all, let me say, it's good to be back on "this week." and i want the say something very personal. as you know, louisiana has undergone a lot of flooding over the last couple of weeks. i want to thank the american people for their generosity and support. so many victims of that terrible flooding. >> we're all thinking of them. >> 53 years ago, dr. king led a very historic march here in washington, d.c. a march for jobs and freedom. a march to raise expectations that this country can live up to its ideals. as i have watched this debate, this conversation about bigotry, racism, i find it all misplaced. first of all, donald trump has not held an event in the black community. not gone to a black church, as hillary clinton has done. he's not gone to historical black colleges. hillary clinton. he's not met with the mothers of children who have been slain and
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killed from violence in the country. as hillary clinton has done. so, i'm not here to talk about bigotry in the sense that i don't know what's in donald trump's heart. i hope that it's a heart of compassion. i can tell you about hillary clinton's heart. this is a woman who, after law school, went down to my native south. she went down after graduating from yale law school to help poor kids. to help disabled kids. this is a woman who has shown over and over again in her career that she will elevate this conversation and more importantly, she'll get things done. so all americans can prosper and grow. >> this week in a speech, she really excoriated donald trump, tying him to the so-called "alt-right." saying his campaign is make america hate again. releasing a video that shows white supremacists praising trump and ending with the words, if trump wins, they could be running the country. are democrats really suggesting that if the gop takes back the
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white house, it would be run by white supremacists? >> first of all, it was ken melman, the chair of the republican party over two decades ago, a decade ago, who apologized for the offensive way that republicans ran campaigns dividing the country. there's no question that donald trump has said things that are very unsettling. i mean whether it's comparing mexicans to rapists, demonizing muslim-americans. excoriating the federal judge, who was handling the case. >> but she's tying trump to white supremacists. >> i'm getting there. look, look -- there's no question that donald trump has had ample opportunity to distance himself from the kind of racist language that comes from some of his supporters. look, i know you can't choose your supporters out there. i know people have embraced him. he hasn't embraced them. he should distance himself. this alt-right movement is disturbing. it's like a renaissance on racism. and we have, as americans,
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again, on this day, the day we observe the 53rd anniversary, we should denounce the racial conversation. >> he had more than 13 million voters in the primaries probably many in the general election. are you saying, is hillary clinton saying that the core of those supporters support bigotry? >> first of all, hillary clinton, who got over 15 million americans who supported her, donald trump has tried to spread this, what i call this -- this so-called "venom." no one is demonizing or saying anything as intemperate as donald trump has said about blacks living in squalor conditions. hillary clinton is talking to all americans. she's talking about jobs, she's talking about how to make this country stronger in terms of our national security. she's talking about opportunity for our young people. so no, no one is spreading any kind of rumors or saying anything about donald trump supporters. or for that matter, the supporters of ted cruz and everyone else. >> i want to move to the clinton foundation.
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there was major news about secretary clinton this week. newly released e-mails obtained by abc news showing that the clinton foundation officials looking for invitations for major donors to state department events including presidential speech. sitting next to vice president biden. do you see any problem with that? >> based on what i have seen, i understand that there's a -- just a new round of fresh eyes looking at more e-mails that might be released. i've been dealing with another situation involving e-mails that were leaked. private information that has been put out in the public. >> let's stick with the -- >> i have to stick with what i know. i'm not an official of the state department. nor did i work in the clinton foundation. >> do you have a problem with that co-mingling? >> i have to stick with what i know. first of all, martha, the way i look at it. i've been a government official. so, you know, this notion that somehow or another, someone who is a supporter, someone who is a
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donor, somebody who is an activist saying, i want access. i want to come into a room and meet people, we often criminalize behavior that is normal. i don't see what the smoke is. i understand why it's being discussed. but i've been dealing with another e-mail situation. the dnc was the victim of a cybercrime. an attack. that's been my focus. not the focus of another round of e-mail controversies. >> let me go back to the foundation and then we'll go back to the dnc. this week, bill clinton sent a letter to foundation donors saying that if hillary clinton is elected, we will immediately implement the following changes. the foundation will accept contributions only from u.s. citizens, permanent residents, and u.s.-based independent foundations whose names we will continue to make public on a quarterly basis. and we will change the official name from the bill, hillary, and chelsea clinton foundation to the clinton foundation. while i will
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continue to support the work of the foundation, i will step down from the board and will no longer raise funds for it. why are these changes appropriate if she's elected president but not when she was secretary of state? is that acknowledging -- >> i've been a big supporter of the clinton foundation. back in 2001 and 2002, people forget that bill clinton went to harlem and set this foundation up. they've helped millions of people across the globe and here in america. they've shown they're willing to be transparent. they've gone beyond the letter of the law. to show that they're trying to make sure there are bright red, green, purple lines that will separate them from any type of conflict. >> back to the dnc e-mails. what is your concern here? julian assange says there will be significant releases over the coming weeks, coming months. what are you most concerned about? >> the dnc and other institutions are victims of cybercrime led by thugs. we know from the company we hired that there was russian involvement in this.
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to destabilize not just our institution, the democratic party, but our democracy itself. we have taken appropriate steps to make sure we have the safest possible system. we're working with federal officials. i have to once again, the notion that we're going to let some person, you know, put out personal, sensitive information across the world, jeopardizing people's privacy. and we're interviewing him as if he's going to have a smoking gun for october. the smoking gun is that we're interviewing somebody involved in a cybercrime and not calling him a criminal. >> we have to leave it there. coming up, more on trump's wavering stance on his immigration policy. will it alienate his base? and clinton's answers to those fresh foundation questions. will voters buy it? our powerhouse "roundtable" weighs in on all that. first, we travelled to a front line in europe's war against terror, where fears of radicalization are rampant and ethnic tensions are coming to a boil.
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there pulling into an fbi office in white plains, new york, saturday, where clinton received her first national security briefing as a presidential candidate. both she and trump must prepare to take the reins in the fight against isis well before stepping into the oval office. with the world on edge, we went to france, which has been so hard hit by repeated attacks to explore what the fight against radicalization there might be able to teacher here at home. we found a nation deeply divided and a cultural war over, of all thing, swimwear, causing dangerous new rifts. late august, the height of france's sacred summer break. but these waters are roiling with bitterness and cultural division. this week, tensions centered on muslim beach wear. the so-called burkini. >> translator: i don't see why it bothers people. that someone has on a little
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more clothing. >> translator: at a certain point, it's got to stop. we're a secular country. >> reporter: seaside mayors drawing a line in the sand. a massive beach brawl after tourists took surreptitious snapshots. that viral photo showing police officers forcing a middle age woman to remove it in public. then friday, france's high court ruling the burkini ban a blow to fundamental liberties. >> it's an effect. it's not the cause of the problem. >> reporter: this is bruno. a leader of the anti-immigration national front. he invited us to his old farmhouse in a village outside paris. are you france's donald trump? >> he says america first. we said the french people first. so -- which is quite natural. >> reporter: for him, the problem the burkini symbolizes is multiculturalism.
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>> even if 1 of 1,000 of them are -- willing to -- to take part -- to the jihad, it means that there are several thousands of people. >> reporter: the french government says there are more than 8,000 muslims in french territory who have given some sign of radicalization. one of them, this 18-year-old we're calling omar. he asked us not to show his face. one day, a man started coming around omar's neighborhood, talking about isis as a humanitarian group. >> reporter: he said syria is where our muslim brothers are and we had to help them. they're in trouble. >> reporter: did you know what isis had done to people? >> no. >> translator: i just wasn't informed about it really. i thought it was more an organization for supporting the people over there. >> reporter: but then came the charlie hebdo attack. this is omar's mother. >> translator: he goes, mom,
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mom, look at the terrorist attack. i smiled and said, he's finally going to understand, these are not muslims. >> reporter: the fear is that france's intelligence apparatus still hasn't caught up to the fast-moving, flexible tactics of the islamic state. take bataclan. >> nine of those terrorists were well known. >> reporter: samia is a lawyer for terror victims across france. >> it's unbelievable. he was under judicial supervision. >> reporter: do you think isis can be stopped? >> i hope so. that's what -- that's the aim of all -- everybody. the problem today that there's no specific profile of a terrorist. anybody can be terrorist. because they hide. and this is one of recommendation of isis. >> reporter: that sums up much of the concern over welcoming war-weary muslim refugees.
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entering paris, you see refugees with nowhere to go. massed together. sleeping on street corners in makeshift camps, as parisians go about their lives around them. just a few subway stops away, battle-ready soldiers at france's most iconic landmarks. the eiffel tower. notre dame. we finish our trip with a visit to the home of another prominent french politician. this time, centrist senator natalie goulet. >> it scares me a lot. the people on the beach fighting for a swimming suit, it's crazy. it's like a -- a civil war atmosphere. >> reporter: she warns that the rhetoric and division could have lasting effect. >> with the kind of speech, the kind of atmosphere we have in this country, it's very easy for isil to say, see, you're french but it's not your country.
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your wife, your sister, your mother, they're not respected. >> reporter: isis has a stated goal in the west. eliminate the gray area. that space where muslims can feel fully muslim and fully french, or british, or american. she worries some western policies may be aiding in that goal with deadly consequences. let's bring in the former director of the national counterterrorism center, michael leiter. and michael, when you look at what is happening in france in terms of trying to ban the muslim swimsuits. they've already banned the full-face veils. what is the result? >> i think that schism is what isis will look to take advantage of. banning the burkini doesn't produce terrorists. it makes the people already alienated and already disenfranchised, in many cases, economically disenfranchised in
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a place like france and makes them say, ah, isis' message is true and real. we can't be french and muslim at the same time. that's exactly what isis wants that population to think. >> what lessons do you think we can learn here? and you heard that lawyer, as well. she talked to me about the intelligence being stove piped. they know these people out there they're just not sharing the information. >> you have the intelligence front and the engagement front. on the intelligence front, the french are better than a lot of counterparts. they're challenged in two specific ways. number one -- the volume is just too much. they can't keep up right now. and second, they still have an open border in europe. they have a europe that doesn't have an integrated intelligence system like we do in the united states. and it's going to take them a very long time to get there. the second is the engagement piece. the french have been challenged by this. the belgians have, as well. we in the u.s., are, frankly better off. we have a muslim population that is better off economically and better engaged. and less drawn to the fight in isis. we have seen in places like california and elsewhere, we still have a threat. even if smaller.
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>> when you look at vetting, is it enough? >> i think the vetting we have for refugees is vastly better than europe. and extensive work by the u.n. before they even get to us. all of our intelligence community working to vet these people. and most of them are not military-age males. i think the refugee problem in europe is vastly worse than we have in the united states. >> i want to move east. a busy week for me. i want to estonia. took part in some joint exercise there between the u.s., estonians, the swedish. i got to ride in the backseat of an f-15 that i've done before. never anything like this. those vertical takeoffs are quite challenging. it was an amazing ride to see what they are doing. and obviously, what this is about is deterring the russians. do you think we're going about that in the right way? >> i think we have started accelerating over the past two years. a modernization of nato. it's air. it's at sea.
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it's undersea. it's cyber. estonia, 2007, hit by russian cyberattacks. what you see there with those exercises is critical. we need more funding for more u.s. combat brigades in europe. nato needs to continue to modernize. these exercises are necessary to show that the alliances are firm. >> okay, thank you very much for joining us. we're going to have much more on that next week. coming up, trump's mouth getting him in trouble again. pressure building on clinton after the new e-mails about the foundation. our powerhouse "roundtable" on the two campaigns' latest woes. and the high school band playing their fight song. how their music is lifting a town left devastated by historic floods.
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alzheimer's disease has devastated millions of lives. but that's all going to change when we reach the first survivor. but we won't get there without you. visit to join the fight. what do you make of the change in tone that we've heard this week on the immigration issue? >> i think it's very positive. >> you're not hearing any shift in tone on immigration? >> no, not at all. >> none whatsoever? >> none whatsoever. >> it's okay to move a little bit more to the compassionate side. but let's follow the rules. >> i think he probably is headed in the right direction. i want to see what that plan says. >> david wright talking to voters and senator joanie ernst
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at the roast and ride in iowa yesterday. let's bring in our "roundtable." purple strategies chair and strategist for a pro trump superpac alex castellanos. ana navarro. former sanders campaign national press secretary symone sanders. and democratic strategist and deputy campaign manager for obama in 2012 receiveny cutter. that was quite a mouthful, all your titles there. so alex, let me start with you. let's talk about the big issue of the week. sounded to me like from what chris christie said, he is rethinking sending all 11 million undocumented workers out of the country. so is this a smart pivot or a flip-flop? >> who says the republicans are not the party of evolution? republicans get accused of not listening and learning. i think on this issue, donald
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trump is listening and learning. now he's been criticized for that. >> is he listening and learning because he saw the polls and most of the exit polls said -- >> it's funny the way democracy works, isn't it? you have to listen and respond to the voters. it's not a bad thing. hillary clinton has flip-flopped on iran, war, she's flip-flopped on campaign finance. how does she explain it? she says, information changes. we learn and grow. >> what he's saying was -- slammed as amnesty by most conservative parts of the party. about six months ago. when it came from marco rubio, jeb bush, john kasich. will this change matter to his supporters? you heard the people david wright was talking to. some seem to like it. >> i think this week has been a debacle. for donald trump. we have seen him hold more immigration positions than the kama sutra. it's all been in one week. it's been so hard to keep up with. different people hear different things because he's been saying so many different things. i don't think this works, because look, you can change the
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words a person says. you can change the words a person reads off a teleprompter. you can't change a person's heart. hispanics are not going to forget -- >> i think you're going too far. >> -- judge curiel. i don't think african-americans are going to forget he started the birther movement. i don't think jewish folks forget the anti-semitic ad against hillary clinton. the problem that donald trump has is that most humans have a memory. and we're not going to forget it within one week. the other problem he has is that he's based his campaign on immigration, it's been a pillar of his campaign from day one, and here we are, two months out, and he still has no policy. >> i think you're going way too far here. the anti-semitic ads, a graphic mistakenly put -- this is turning into a how morally superior are we, the elite in washington, to republicans again? that's a pretty poor way to try to lead the country. and secondly, i think it's still clear that donald trump is the
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anti-illegal immigration candidate in this race. that's not what he should be focusing on. he should be focusing on the economy. drawing -- moving things forward. >> but alex, an african-american woman was shot this weekend. not only an african-american woman. her name was nykea aldridge, a mother of four. his first reaction is to say, i told you so. vote for trump. forget being unfit to be president. he's unfit to be human. was he raised by wolfs? who has that as a first reaction upon somebody's death? >> if republicans should be called racist because of what they say, is it fair to say that democrats are racist because of what they have done? their policies that have destroyed -- excuse me. >> i want to hear from our democrats. >> this argument from a lot of republicans that we have heard of late is that democrats are the once that have ruined these communities across the country. we forget that a lot of these cities are situated in states
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with republican-held ledge stay -- legislatures. republican-held governors. the democratic party has made -- has made people of color, has meat lgbtq individual, muslim, latino, hispanics part of the party. our chair is an african-american woman. we have opened up this party. black people are not behold on the the democratic party. >> i want to get stephanie in here. >> people like you feel like you need to defend the democratic party. alex, i understand you're supporting trump. this is ridiculous to say that hillary clinton is a bigot but donald trump has some sort of -- >> no, it's not because if you're saying republicans are bigots because of what they say, what can we -- >> walk me through exactly what he has done through his 34 -- it's the front page of "the new york times" today. his family --
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>> and hillary clinton was calling him things, too. >> african-americans, and jewish people. for 30 years of his career. >> do you think democratic policies for the last three or four decades have been a success for what they have done for black america? we're the richest country. >> african-americans access to health care that they didn't have before. donald trump wants to overturn that. you want to overturn that. >> black populations are -- >> symone, jump in. >> i think it's so interesting, martha, that republicans are all of a sudden interested in the inner cities. but i haven't seen any policy prescriptions from donald trump about doing something. >> we'll move on to -- >> i'll give you one. >> not more police officers. >> would you like one? let's open up our schools. let's open up our schools. education. give every parent equal opportunity to choose the best schools. democrats are against that. donald trump is for it. >> which party is -- actively trying to restrict the ability of amp americans to vote? the republican party. >> not the one i'm in.
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no, no, totally wrong. totally wrong. you know what? i believe everyone who votes should have an i.d. i believe the republican party should be working to get more people -- >> i wish it would be that simple. >> this is what the country is going to be like after the election. >> how can you live in today's culture without an i.d.? >> you speak from a position of privilege. that's a position of privilege. the fact that you have to question how can -- i think everybody should have an i.d. that's a position of privilege. >> so why do you oppose opening up our schools so every parent -- >> do not live in communities where there is a driver's license -- >> can i praise your president? barack obama and michelle obama chose the best school for their kids. god bless them. they're good parents. good for them. why don't we let every american choose the best school for their kids? that's what republicans want, donald trump wants. >> that's not what donald trump is talking about. what i have heard from donald
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trump this week is again, he's doubling down, tripling down, if you will, on his divisive language against african-americans. in this country. he is being very unclear and he is doubling down, still, on the fact that he is discriminating against hispanics and latinos. he's running the same race he was running a year ago. he just has on different shoes. >> i want to turn to the clinton foundation. another topic you might enjoy. >> i do have one point we haven't covered on donald trump. he's not doing this to appeal to african-americans. he's doing to it try to convince a segment, a large segment of the republican party that he still doesn't have supporting him because they think he's a racist. >> and they don't want to vote for a racist, alex. >> and hillary clinton is calling him a bigot. >> we're going to the foundation e-mails now. like it or not. here we go. >> i think they just described me, by the way. >> the new e-mails show what looks like clinton foundation officials asking for favors from senior state department people.
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this is obviously going to keep going for several months, probably through election day. you might have more e-mails leak out. how big a problem do you see this for her? >> well, you know, i think your language, shows -- the weakness of the argument. it looks like. there's not -- at worst, this is an optics problem. there is no wrong doing. at least, nobody has demonstrated any wrongdoing. >> but no one has demonstrated wrongdoing but -- >> it's been debunked. they're looking at 3% of all meetings that she took in her tenure at the state department. she's meeting with nobel laureates, melinda gates. to the extent that the clinton foundation is -- uh -- is recommending meetings with people, these people are well-known and have enormous stature this their own right. >> is it that simple? >> it's not. it's very complicated. this perception of blurred lines
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between the philanthropy, the business, and the political world of the clintons. it's why people like me, who actively oppose trump, feel like political orphans because we can't quite get there with her because of this untrust worthiness. the part that really bothers me and hasn't been coffered is that her top aide, huma abedin was working for these people at the same time. is the the foundation, the firm, the personal office. >> would any of us at this table suggest it's okay to sell 20% of u.s. uranium production to russia? probably not. hillary clinton's state department signed off on that while the guys, the businessmen who made millions off that deal, contributed millions to the clinton foundation. that's why hillary clinton's made the killer mistake that will kill her, which is, she said it's so wrong, it's terrible. we're going to have to stop all these taking money from foreign governments, as soon as i'm elected. she's admitted it's wrong.
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>> you have ten seconds. what is -- what does donald trump have to do in the debate? >> at this point, i just think he has to be donald trump. because any other thing won't sell. we know him, we know his brand. you can't repackage or rebrand the guy. he is who he is. >> and hillary clinton? it's a very different kind of debate. >> first of all, i think she is going to use this debate for a different purpose than donald trump. i think she'll use it to lay out much of her vision of this country. i do think it's important to not allow donald trump to try to have a personality transplant in this process. the real donald trump needs to be pulled out. i don't think that will be a very difficult task, by the way i think that he is -- unable to control himself. we have seen it over the course of the last week. he cannot control himself. >> we're going to have to stay tuned for that and see if that happens. thank you all for coming. up next, the inspiring story behind this beloved high school band bringing hope and healing to a town still struggling after devastating floods. ds.
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times when things like this happen, it can seem too much to bear. i want the people to know, you're not alone even after the tv cameras leave. the whole country is going to continue to support you and help you. until we get folks back in their homes and lives are rebuilt. >> president obama offering support to the baton rouge
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community hit hard by devastating flooding that's leaving many students with nowhere to go, just as the new school year starts. students in parts of west virginia know exactly what that feels like. floods that killed 23 people also destroyed schools including richwood high, the heart of a small town that was utterly devastated. that's where we found the pride of richwood, the state champion richwood marching band and a story of hope and resilience. we were there the first high school football game of the season, a friday night light in a dark time. >> i was up on the mountain. i watched the water come in. very scary to watch. i watched the football field slowly get covered up with water. >> when i first saw the devastation, i thought, how are we going to regroup this? you know, when i saw the vast number of people, wow. they came to help. >> richwood is a little old town. we don't have a whole lot left
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here. but, we do have a very big band and we're very proud of our band. >> we were not going to sit down and let a flood devastate us. we jumped in. we got our stuff cleaned up. we worked. we found alternatives. we made things work. >> the band has honestly helped me keep a positive outlook. it's kept my mind off things. i was affected by losing my home. the damage was so bad that insurance wouldn't cover everything. right now, my family of six is living in a single-wide trailer. which isn't the best circumstances. but it's better than nothing. we have lost so much. but we're still moving on. and we're still going on as everything's normal. that just goes to show you how strong we really are. tonight, i want the community to know that everything is going to be okay. that there is still hope and that hopefully, when they see the band, they'll be just as excited as all of us are to be out there performing on friday night. [ whistle blows ]
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♪ >> we're over on the sidelines. and, the drum major calls us. we yell out, express. hearing all the people scream. makes me smile. makes me feel really good. >> nothing is ever going to beat us. ♪ >> this band's more than just a band to many of the kids here. it's family. it's everything. we're strong, we're richwood strong. >> one, two, three, four. ♪ >> richwood strong. we'll be right back after this from our abc stations.
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