tv ABC7 News Getting Answers ABC October 5, 2020 3:00pm-3:30pm PDT
hi there. welcome to our daily program called "getting answers." we're asking experts every kay at 3:00 to get real answers for you in real time. we're talking about president trump who tweeted this morning he will be released from the hospital walter reed in about 30 minutes from now at 3:30. joining us is dr. bob roy chter. thank you for joining us. >> you're welcome. >> the white house is going home to the white house shortly. dr. sean conley says he's met or exceeded all quiz charge
criteria. what the does that mean? does that mean we can breathe a sigh of relief? >> it sounds like he's doing well. it's a little bit difficult to tell because we're getting different information every day and there are some things they're just not telling us. at one level he's met the criteria. he's stable, doesn't have a fever, his oxygen level is fine. the problem is covid acts in a way that would make i think most fence wonder about this. by that i mean you can be doing fierngs feel fine and get very sick very quickly. that can happen up to a week out from the initial illness. %-pd he said he felt 20 years younger. you may feel fine, your fever may go away, your muscles won't hurt anywhere.
it's not doing anything to change the course of the illness. the worry is he may be doing fine but he's not out of the woods. there's a real chance he may detheater. >> you would not be discharging him if you were his doctor? >> hard for me to see if if i didn't see him. in general for a patient with covid age 74, sick enough to have need to be in the hospital and to need oxygen and to have an abnormal cat skarngs although we haven't been told what that shows, who's now gotten three medicine, including one experimental medicine, to discharge that patient a couple of days later because they've done ok for a couple of days would be very, very fast. we would say to a patients it's terrific you feel well, let's give it a few more days because things could go sour really quickly. >> let's piece this together as
best we can. wednesday morning it sounds like is when he got an inkling that he could be positive. friday he wasn't doing well. had toe go to rattler read. if he has been fever free since friday, has he passed the critical period or is it really unpredictable like a roller coaster? >> well, it's not completely un3re diktble. if her fines seven to ten days, he would generally relachblgts it's not possible he would get sicker later, but we're talking about two or three days after his initial symptoms. in that case, we still would remain worried that he could get sick and if he gets sick, it could happen fickly and can go very quickly. of course he's the president. he nose goes back to the white house where they have advanced monitoring, advanced medical
facilities. and so it's safer than it would be for the average patient, but if her to get sick and get very short of breath, for us, i think we'd have patient a hundred feet away from icu as opposed to a hundred feet away from a helicopter that will take them back to the icu. >> i know for for example, we don't know when his last negative test was. there are other question marks. what could be really useful to you, everybody else, the american public, in terms of knowing that's going on with him. >> just to say it's a tricky situation that the physician finds himself in because he has a patient who i'm guessing him is telling him what he would and would not like to be talked about. he's got twin obligations to the patient but also to the public. once he strolls out in the white
code, he's acting as a communicator to the world. so i'd want much more detailed information on -- following any information like that. his oxygen levels over time not the good ones but the bad ones. he said the other day it never went down to the low 80s. didn't say anything other than that. i don't know how to intercept that. he said it showed what was expected. i don't know what that means. it was normal, he should have told us it was normal. it was abnormal, he should have gersich us that information. i think given the importance of the president's mental status, you would want to be quite secure that he's thinking clearly. both the illness and the medication, particularly the dexamethasone can cause everything from confusion to euphoria to manic kind of behavior so that's a piece of
data following his mental status very, very carefully that i would want to know. >> i know there are some doctors who wonder if his tone is being driven by the side effects of this h dexamethasone. i'll read this to you. it says "feeling really good. don't be afraid of covid. don't let it dominate your life." what's your reaction to that? >> don't be afraid of covid of an illness that has killed more than one million people in ten months, including 210,000 people in the united states. i think we should all be afraid of covid, not to the point that we crawl under shelves and live in total fear, but it is a serious illness that is killed and harmed many people if you're
not afraid of covid you won't take the steps you need to take in order to protect yourself as apparently the president and others around him did not. so to say to people don't be afraid of covid, particularly in a position where, well, ok, i'm getting medicines that no one else has access to, i've got a helicopter to take me back to the hospital. that's not what the average person has. to me, it came off as insensitive and counterproductive. >> no doubt he has more resources from the drugs and treatments to the best medical care. he is the president of the united states. but i am wondering, though, if it turns out that these doctors are giving him drugs that are given normally to people with more serious casings, is that generally considered good medical practice, or is that generally considered you shouldn't do that because there could be serious side effects on other things we don't know about yet.
>> the medications that we know he's received for his infection, two of them are standard therapy that we would give to any pashltd with serious covid at ucsf, so the complexity here is the messages from the doctors are it's not that bad, his oxygen level's orks his fever's not very high. yet they're giving him medications that have been froouchb work. there's a little bit of a disconnect there. but the remdesivir and the dexamethasone, the steroid is something we give all the time to patients who are quite sick with covid in the hospital. the one he got that no one else in the country would be able get is the he's doing quite well may be a
we are back professor and chair of department of medicine for ucsf. we were talking over break about what happens after the president gets back to the white house. can you talk about this setup that they must have there, the medical setup for excellent outpatient care and what do you think they're going to be looking for in the days ahead?
>> yeah. they'll monitor him the way they'd monitor him in the hospital. his oxygen level probably continuously. they will be getting repeat chest x-rays, i imagine. i don't know if they can get repeat cat scans in the white house. that would be an interesting question. he will get an i.c. or getting a dose of i.c. medicine. he is not done be his remdesivir, which i believe is a five-day course. it was his fourth today. he'll need an i.v. tomorrow. that's not a big deal to do in the white house. they're capable of doing the same monitoring there as they can do in the hospital. the issue is if he were to get short of breath very quickly, which is not likely but certainly could happen, then they would have to mutt on higher doses of oxygen on him and if he got really sick really
quickly, people go to the icu and we have to put them on a breathing machine. that's easy to do in a hospital. not able to do it in the white house. not so great when you have to transfer somebody back to the hospital. >> it's an environment that has start of o an outbreak. kayla mueller tel kailee mcninny tested positive. what do you think everyone working in the white house needs to be aware of and should do right now? >> well, you need to treat the white house as a place where there's uncontrolled spread, and so everyone needs to use -- everyone who can work from home should be working from home and not coming in. if you have to be there, you should be using pristine use of protective equipment, mask, gloves, gowns, things like that to be -- eye protection as well.
>> uh-huh. >> and you know, it would be a scary place to be working right now. certainly, the people that are infected need to be in strict isolation. they cannot be walking around in the halls. doesn't matter who they are. >> vice president mike pence is traveling now. the debate wednesday in utah against u.s. senator kamala harris. they've made plans for plexiglas to separate the candidates. we saw this in the debate between lindsey game. is that enough to keep everybody safe? >> the safest thing would be for them to debate in separate cases and do exactly what we're doing. it's a little bit -- and to do it in washington so that they all didn't have to travel. i think that would have been the most prudent thing. short of that, setting them up so they're a fairly far distance away, at least the 12 feet the president and vice president were. i would vote for more than that
15 to 20 feet away, plexiglas between them. they will have all tested negative for several days beforehand, i think if you all do that, either no audience or very limited audience wearing masks, i think they could do the things. >> we hope they test everyone. there were holes in what happened last tuesday where the testing was left up to each campaign for their entourage and the candidates themselves. that was really hard to understand, actually, because the cleveland clinic tested all the attendees but not the candidates. >> yeah. i mean there have been many holes in -- there are ways we think about this and what would be the right thing to handle it and i have to say in hearing about the way this has been handled, everything from the rose garden gathering. >> we've got only about a minute left but i got to ask you about
the cdc. they put back on to their website that covid could be airborne and transmit or spread beyond six feet indoors. you know i feel like that's been out there for a while and not necessarily new to the medical experts. is the cdc no longer seen by those in h the field as a leading source of medical information? does it trail instead of lead? >> i think the answer to that is yes. i think there are many who love the cdc, revere the cdc, know that there are thousands of spectacular people working there doing their best. it's operated in a highly politicized environment where their pronouncements go. the information they put out today has been well understood in the medical community now for several months. luckily the recommendations
about mask wearing is definite with what they said. >> all of which leaves the average joe handled jane quite confused as we make dec whether to go to the restaurant that is allowing taiblt tables. >> there's a lot of different sources out there. i think everyone has to find areas that are trustworthy. we can feel good that our public health leadership has acted responsibly and when they are making choices of opening certain businesses they're doing it based on the latest information and with the public health in 3450i7b8d. we're quite lucky that way. there are other parts of the country where that's not true. >> we're luck ilwe got to hear from you today. take care. you as well thanks. >> we'll take a short break on the air but the conversation continues on facebook live now.
and we are back. we are still waiting for president trump to be released from walter reed hospital. that's expected to happen in ten minutes. his campaign trying to use this as leverage. they say contracting covid-19 adds to his skill set saying "he has firsthand experience and the firsthand experiences joe biden, he doesn't have those." joining us now to talk about the impact on the election coming up. professor lonny chen. how are you? >> good. >> let's say he continues to improve and bounces back quickly. could his battle with covid actually help him with his narrative that the coronavirus was never that serious? >> you know, i think what it's going to tend to do is to
reinforce perceptions of him, ok. people who like the president, support the president, see him as being a strong figure, somebody who was able to confront covid and deal with it quickly. those who do not like the president. those who have a negative impression of the president, they will see him as as as as as really depends on how you view this electoral cycle. i think it reinforces those views that people have already. >> people see it through the lens they want to see it through. right? there are a few new polls. reuters shows 67% of registered voters say if he had taken it more seriously he probably wouldn't have gotten himself. 52% of registered voters don't trust him.
is this even important at all as you weigh the political ramificati ramifications? >> well, i will say this. i think the one way in which it could play to the president's disadvantage going forward is just having the conversation focused on coronavirus and the response to coronavirus. for example, one area where voters have tended to give him the benefit of the doubt is on the economy. even though the economy went to a very bad place in the covid lockdown. polls suggest he's seen as being stronger on the economy. that's a topic he'd like to be talking about more. in the same way these law and order images might be an area he wants to spend more time. the narrative looks like it's going to be dominated by covid and that area is one where he
has historically not done as well. >> he has no choice but to talk about his least favorite subject, in a way, as opposed to his favorite subjects going into the election. ok. but is there political change danger for biden and harris not to harp on this, that's no, sir the right word, but to keep this as their focus as they ramp up the attacks as we get closer to the election? >> i think once the president gets out of the hospital and it appears that that will happen shortly, in some ways, the campaign will resume. i think you'll start to see some of those negative ads of biden will come back on the air. so i think that they have some avenues. the k34e7b8g challeng the challenge is they need to figure out how to tie the
president's performance on covid to get voters out to mobilize to vote for the behind-harris ticket. motivating turnout is the same challenge they've had. when there's a more tepid view of joe biden whereas those who support the president do. >> i want to ask you. you mentioned wednesday's vice presidential deebltd. what do you think vice president pence needs to do to assure people that despite what's happening with the outbreak in the white house with 11 staffers testing positive, that they're the team to trust to maintain the virus in the big house, the white house. >> they have very different styles. i think you'll see a disciplined mike pence, someone who will come out strong on message. he's going to say this is a virus that clearly has
significance. i think he's going to probably say look, there are some things obviously we wish we could have done better and he's going to pivot. he looks to turn to other elements where the pens-trump-pence ticket is stronger. toward trying to paint joe biden as somebody far to the left. i think all those things you would expect out of a disciplined republican deesht. you're going to see that. whether it's effective or not, we'll see. a very much more hallmark of pence and how he handles that's situations versus the president. >> kamala harris, a skilled debater as well. that should be sbchlgt i wonder how this episode for the president will affect the big battles on capitol hill, right, the supreme court nomination and also the covid stimulus package. how do you think that place out?
>> one more likely, one slightly less likely. i think we're much more likely to see a stimulus package. i think the president tweeted over the weekend he wants to see stimulus. i think he's going to move closer to where the democrats have been, which is having a larger goechlt it's got encomplicated. a couple of republican senators have covid. you have now a strong pressure to potentially hold off on the hearings if they can't be conducted normally and in person. something that seemed like a near certainty a week ago now seems slightly less certain. i think the republicans will be able to get judge barrett across the finish line but it has become less likely because the logistics have become more complicated. >> that is true and of course the president and biden are suppose to debate next week. we'll see if that happens as
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welcome back. thank you so much for joining us on today's interactive show "getting answers." we'll be here every day at 3:00 answering your questions. we did that today with dr. bob roy chter. president trump is supposed to be released from walter reed national military medical center very soon, in fact, in about a minute was the thiemg gave. there's the door right there. w'll be watching that. abc's world news tonight is covering this. it will be coming up next with
live coverage of president trump's release and heading back to the white house, being discharged tonight, as we come on the air, the president heading back to the white house tonight. his doctors saying late today of the president, he may not be entirely out of the woods yet. the medical team giving few specifics on his condition. but confirming the president did receive supplemental oxygen twice. pressed on the president's lungs. and what the doctor said about the coming days, saying the team remains on guard into next weekend, given the course of the virus. and as the u.s. tonight now marks 210,000 lives lost to the virus, the president drawing outrage from many after he tw t tweeted, "don't be afraid of covid." the president given the best health care available in the country and two experimental treatments. many months into this pandemic, the president saying, i get it, i understand it. tonight, at least