tv Matter of Fact With Fernando Espuelas CBS August 14, 2016 3:00pm-3:31pm PDT
>> today on ?matter of fact," political ads, political spin, political name-calling. our question -- who is listening? a look at the media habits of america's voting public. and in common? >> when women reach the tipping point, they really begin to change. >> the risks women take with power. plus, voting blocs and powerbrokers flex their muscle in the presidential election. what's the one issue that will bring them together? fernando: hello.
welcome to ?matter of fact." americans on the right and left have very different visions of the state of our country and the direction for the future. clearly, media drives the different conversations across the political spectrum, and in some cases, substituting facts with ideology. what role does the media play in shaping voters' decisions? i spoke with the director and editorf center at the university of pennsylvania to understand what is driving our political divide. welcome to the program. >> thank you. it's good to be with you. fernando: thank you. let me ask you about the role of what i would call ideological media. for example, fox news tends to identify more with conservatives and msnbc more with liberals. everyone has some ideological lens, but that is part of their
culture? is this a silo for a certain group of people, or does it crossover? and how does it impact let's say more traditional media? are they being pushed because they need to compete? director jamison: people are likely to associate people they agree -- associate with people they agree with. they are likely to marry people they agree communities with people they agree with. they are likely to be part of groups that they agree with. it is a natural human disposition to seek out things that we already agree with, to reinforce our sense of identity. it is not an aberration to say that people gravitate toward media that reinforce what they believe the cause we do that with the rest of our lives as well. what the main street -- mainstream media traditionally does is take the left and right
each other. conservative media would say they balance more 20 left. but set that aside for a minute. to give you a sense that there were these alternatives and try to let the sides frame their own perspective on what that meant, the difference between that and a conservative or liberal media outlet, they will have both sides. people who think it will not just are not paying attention. but it will be framed from the perspective of one of those sides, and the evidence will be sele i that side. the soundbites will be more likely to be consistent with that ideology. the sources that are turned to will be sources that are more likely to agree with that ideology, but if you live in a world in which you can seek it out, the question is -- will you? fernando: what is happening at the big picture level?
together cats and dogs, so to speak -- the ideological cats and dogs? director jamison: if you go back historically a look at fdr and ronald reagan, you find there was a lot of opposition from the other side and it was really heated. we have had polarized politics are ever. the question is -- what were the characteristics? to the extent that there were moments in those presidencies in which the country could come together, we presidencies that unite us. for example, we were united in our effort with the great depression. we were united in our efforts in world war ii. it is a moment in which the country comes together united against the attack on pearl harbor. the republican or democrat, you are someone who is proud of the
in a very difficult when the shr exploded, again, the country is not full of republicans and democratthere are people who lio ronald reagan's words and are grateful that he is expressing something powerful to the nation and to the nation's children. when people say those are unifying presidencies, they are remembering moments in which the country came together around moments of rhetoric, in which the country needed a president to step up and say things that were powerful and spoke sense of anxiety, but also our sense of hope in the future, but they are forgetting all the moments in which there was strong partisan division and the other side thought thede power a result was up to no good. fernando: thank you so much for joining me today. >> coming up, who is more prepared to make a decision -- a woman or a man? >> when women reach 30% on a corporate board, men have to show up more prepared.
nomination for president of the united states. >> hillary clinton has broken a big barrier in american politics by becoming the first female nominee of a major party. she has broken through this glass ceiling nearly 100 years after women fought for and won the right to vote. women are competing or more power in government and the marketplace.
the author of "broad influence: how women are changing the way washington works" about the growing influence of women across our society. welcome to the program. >> thank you for having me on. fernando: thank you so much. you wrote this great book about women in power, and we are seeing a lot of this come to be in this presidential campaign. first, let's talk about the pieces of your book and the role that women uniquely play in american politics and how that role would be even bigger, we could possibly have a government that works. what is the proof you have for that? >> i originally got the idea for the book about two and a half years ago during the government shutdown. i wrote a story for "time" magazine about the women of the senate coming together ring the government shutdown to restart negotiations to open the govef the men would come together. what really interested me about
in the senate. they ended up sharing or ranking on 11% of the committees, and they had a huge impact, producing 75 percent of the legislation that passed that session. if you will remember, that session was incredibly acrimonious, very hyper partisan. you really saw them reaching across the isle and making things functional at the height of dysfunction. it was clear to me that women were having enormous impact, and it turns of board, win women reach this tipping point between 20% or 30%, they really begin to change fernando: you call it critical mass as well. this changes the behavior not just of women in the room but also men>> they do. it's really interesting. some studies show that when women reach 30% on a corporate board, for example, the men had to show up more prepared because the women are so much more
-- that they lagged behind. they actually really do change the culture of a place. fernando: i'm sure there are many variables, but is that a function of women having to try so much harder to get to the same place that men do? >> in deed, to some degree. a lot of studies show that women really want to be much more prepared than men. they do not feel comfortable speaking unless they have a lot more information. men are just sort of very boldly saying "i want to see this" and women hanging back until they feel comfortable. for example, they say it takes about seven times to ask a woman to run for office until she really does it because she wants to be prepared and wants to read every briefing, every book, and know every position before she even begins to think about running where is men go ahead and run and then read up.
the idea that women are more risk-averse and therefore less likely to mess up. maybe they are more considerate. is there some data to back that up or just an observation? >> obviously, you cannot say every woman is unilateral. some women are very risky and others are not.generally, womenh less to risks. 90% of micro-finance lending in the world is done almost exclusively to women bec much more judicious ways. they invested in their children or in their projects. they tend not to drink or gavilan away, and that has been a real shift from 15 or 20 years ago and most of the lending was done to men. they found women were much more responsible with the money. looking at studies of winning traders on wall street, they end up taking much less risk and taking their fiduciary
that said, those same studies show that they have a lot less upside than men. because they take less risks, they get less profit as well. the idea is that had lehman brothers been lehman sisters, the whole financial crisis would not have hape women would not have taken those risks. >> there's no question these are taught issues in the lati >>, can either party get the
make the difference between who wins and who loses the white house. we break down the importance of the hispanic vote for the clinton and trump campaigns. welcome to the program. matt: thank you for having me. fernando: as you are looking at this election, do you think latinos will turn out in the numbers people have expected, or will it be a 2014 kind of situation where there will be underperformance by voters, and what do you think is driving the enthusiasm? is there a single cause for multiple reasons? >> i think it is a push and a pull. you have enthusiasm and also incredible frustration. some of the comments that have been made about anchor babies, mexicans as rapists, about building a wall -- it has really inflamed a lot of frustration in the latino community.
people coming out and protesting, but the advocates and advocacy groups are very involved this year. there has been a lot of attention on latino millennials. you have that combination. if that frustration and enthusiasm continues, that's a recipe for very high engagement and latino turnout. fernando: several polls showed the latinos, like other americans, care about the economy and security and so forth, yet immigration continues voter group. can you explain how that works? why is immigration so critical, especially since most latinos were born in the u.s.? matt: that is a question we get all the time. there's no question that issues like the economy, wage inequality, access to health care -- these are top issues in the immigrant community, but the immigration issue is much more personal.
voters know someone who is an immigrant. almost everyone who was born in the u.s. has immigrant parents or grandparents or friends, so it is an issue that is close and personal, and when candidates start taking positions, saying that they want to deport parents of u.s. citizens, for example, that is an issue that strikes at the heart of the latino community, and because of that, elevates the import t more top-of-the-line than some of these issues like the economy, and because of that, it is an issue that can mobilize latinos, even when surveys are showing that they care about jobs and wages and the economy. immigration is the issue that gets them to the polls. fernando: last question -- what is the threshold, percentage of latino v that a republican or democrat has to earn in order
number was 40% because that was the number that george w. bush was able to get, but that was in 2000, 2004. much has changed. the latino vote has gotten much larger since then, and as a result, republicans need to do better. our estimates are that nationally, the public and party needs to be between 42% and 47% if they are going to be competitive with the national electorate in 2016. fernando: for joining me today. matt: it's my pleasure, fernando. >> truck cannot lose white women and win the presidency. >> how the battle of the sexes
i recently spoke to the campaign editor for politico, who explains why this could make or break donald trump. steve, welcome back to the program. steve: it's great to be back fernando:. fernando:thank you. one of the most important voter segments that both campaigns must capture our women. what are campaigns doing to be able to attract women voters? steve: you are hearing a lot about the hiic she is now the first woman ever nominated by a major party for president. you will hear a lot from her and her surrogates. she has a lot of people who can speak to women voters and explain why donald trump is the wrong choice. at the same time, the trump campaign has been a disjointed effort. at times, he will talk about hillary clinton not being trustworthy. at times, he will talk about the
having to do with women. this is going to be the gender gap between men and women. it's going to be huge. we are already seeing it. it was something that was very apparent in 2008 and 2012. it is much, much bigger now. men, particularly white men, support donald trump, but the key group to watch is white women. white women voted for mitt romney by 14 points. right now, donald trump is losing them a little bit, even as with hillary clinton. donald trump cannot lose white women and whncfernando: going t, there seems to be a split between college-educated women and high school graduate voters. can you explain that? what do you think is driving that egg cap? steve: this is true for both genders. this is usually a reliable republican constituency, but
a study from last month showed donald trump losing college-educated white women by more than 30 points. that is an unreal figure. it speaks to the reality -- gender and education or class or however you want to define it -- education is a good way to start -- gender and class are the key divisions in this campaign, and right now, women and more educated voters are not getting behind donald trump. thank you so much for joining me today. i appreciate your insights, and good luck on the campaign trail. >> send us your thoughts. tweet us, check in on facebook, and connect with our video site to view and share videos from
world on rio this week. i also took a look. consider these odds of making history -- olympic history. for the first time, a team made up of refugees from various countries will have a chance to compete in the olympic games under the olympic flag. >> congratulations for having come here. one of the media titles the other day -- "they have already fernando: some say being refugees will provide recognition to the suffering of refugees everywhere. >> i hope part of the message is about who refugees are and the important message that they need attention, solidarity, and political solutions. be an example also two other sports people, and then be a
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