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author, james ellroy -- featuring the 8g band. [ cheers and applause ] and now, here he is, seth meyers. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: good evening! i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how's everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] excellent. that's excellent news. so, i have to ask, did everyone here get their free u2 album in their itunes? [ laughter ] well, there were some complaints -- so apple has built a web page specifically for users -- to delete the new u2 album from their account. [ light laughter ] the way it works is you just enter your birthday and if you're under 40 years old, it deletes the album. [ laughter and applause ]
i'm not, which is good. free music. i win. so, it is possible to get rid of the new u2 album but you still have to throw your iphone in the river -- if you want to get rid of the stocks app. [ laughter ] the incredibly popular stocks app. i thought this is good news. the white house today came out in support -- in support of requiring police officers to wear body cameras at all times. it's a great way for fans to keep up with their favorite nfl players. [ laughter and applause ] this is interesting. doctors treating an ebola patient in nebraska have found that the only way to restore the man's appetite is to feed him ben and jerry's chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream. that story again, a man in nebraska is probably faking his
ebola. [ laughter and applause ] it's probably -- yeah, it's bad. i get -- i get like piercing headaches every five minutes. "oh, what? that's an ice cream head ache? oh, okay. it might not be ebola. either way i'm going to need another bowl and maybe some that -- medicinal marijuana. [ laughter ] my ebola is bad." listen to this. rapper ray j told the huffington post this week that he doesn't regret -- he does not regret -- making his sex tape with kim kardashian. he says he's just happy that he made one video that people enjoyed. [ laughter and applause ] just the one. ray j said he doesn't think the sex tape was responsible for kim kardashian's rise to fame saying, "god made all of that success happen." to which god replied, "yeah, but -- it was after i saw the tape." [ laughter ]
not sure how to feel about this. a pair of new york high schoolers have created a game called "tampon run" where the main character fights off foes by throwing tampons at them. personally i don't think there's anything funny about this. you should never throw a tampon at anyone, period. [ laughter and applause ] i like that one a lot. [ laughter ] here's a little good news. a 10-year-old goldfish named george is recovering after undergoing brain surgery yesterday. doctors decided to perform the surgery after they discovered that the toilet wouldn't flush. [ laughter ] [ audience awws ] i think we can all agree that that joke, much like a dead
goldfish, probably belongs in the toilet as well. there's a new study out. we love new studies here at "late night." a new study has found that comfort foods -- comfort foods are no more effective at lifting moods than other foods. and people who eat comfort foods aren't very effective at lifting anything. [ laughter ] don't ask them to help you move. this is really cool. this week scientists at north carolina state university announced they discovered, they discovered ways to move and manipulate liquid metal with electricity. and arnold schwartzenegger has already been sent back in time to stop it. [ laughter and applause ] some crime news. a little bit of crime news, a man in oregon wanted for an armed bank robbery was arrested when he was found at an ultimate frisbee tournament. some witnesses described him as a white male in his 20s while
other witnesses described him as the whitest male in his 20s. [ laughter ] and finally, a new video game is launched where players -- a new video game is launched where players try to touch a virtual woman's breast. gamers say, "it's great practice for a day that will never come." [ laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, this is the 8g band. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome to the show. how are we doing, 8g band? you guys good over there? great. we had a really fun show last night. my old colleague, bill hader, was on the show. it was great to talk to him. we talked about stefan which is always fun. people ask me about all the time. [ cheers ] and i was thinking about it today. when you're at weekend updates, when the guest -- when someone like stefan is
getting ready, bill would just sit waiting for his chair to roll out. and he would be out there a few jokes before hand. and he would be blocked off from the audience with a black glass so no one could see him. except for, there were -- probably only about eight people in the audience who could see who was coming. and i would always remember stefan was the only one where those -- when those eight people would realize bill was sitting back there as stefan, they would lose their minds. [ laughter ] and it was so heartbreaking for me because i had been out there the whole time and i'd see no enthusiasm. [ laughter ] we had congresswoman nancy pelosi on last night which is so fun. she is such an interesting person to talk too. and i mentioned to her, we live in a really -- i don't have to tell anyone here, a really polarized political time and she's one of the faces of the democratic party. and i said to her, you know, because you're here, i will get so many angry tweets about you being here. and i'm happy to say that i was right. [ laughter ] and i would like to say the people that hate the name nancy pelosi are also not great
at spelling it. [ laughter ] not. yeah. [ applause ] their hatred of the name nancy pelosi is only matched by their inability to spell it. it's like they were trying to spell ital -- like, police in italian. [ light laughter ] we also had a great band, walk the moon was here last night. and -- they're -- i'm just gonna -- we're going to show you a clip. at the end of the show, i stand with the band, if there's a band here and say good night. and whenever i stand with a band wearing my suit, i always feel like -- like their accountant -- [ laughter ] -- because they're dressed like cool guys in a band and i'm in a suit. so, i'm already self conscious about how dorky i look. and then last night, there you'll notice i say good night and then i start shaking the bands hand. and then nicholas, their lead singer, just started dancing, like grinding -- on me. and it's so -- my response to it is so embarrassing that the camera man just like moves the camera away -- [ laughter ] -- to save the shame. so, here's the end of the show from last night.
>> seth: my thanks to bill bill hader, house democratic leader nancy pelosi. walk the moon. and of course the 8g band. stay tuned for carson daly. we'll see you tomorrow. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ [ laughter ] >> seth: thank you so much. thank you so much. [ cheers and applause ] that's why -- i have the greatest crew in "late night." oh! oh, my god! ah! [ laughter ] see that camera man, he's still in the hospital having eye surgery. [ laughter ] we send our love. we have a great show for you tonight. craig ferguson is here. [ cheers and applause ] i can't wait to speak to my colleague, craig. also stopping by from the new show "red band society," academy award winner, octavia spencer. [ cheers and applause ] the lovely octavia spencer.
and one of my favorite authors, james ellroy will be here to talk about his new book "perfidia." [ cheers and applause ] now -- as much as i love hosting "late night" and i really love it, i've got to admit, it has cut into my personal time. my me time, if you will. so, tonight i blocked out a few short minutes where i can relax and hang out with someone i've been ignoring lately -- seth meyers. so -- [ laughter ] i hope you don't mind but i have my older of mint condition box of red sox trading cards from the '80s. and i'm going to look at each player and imagine what it would be like if we were best friends. so -- [ laughter ] here we go, a quiet moment, just me and my beloved baseball cards. [ laughter ] >> seth, we need to powder your nose. it's shiny. >> seth: can it wait? >> do you want to be on tv with
a shiny nose? >> seth: no. >> okay. [ laughter ] all right. just a little bit. and now your nose is great. just a little bit more because your forehead is shiny. [ laughter ] all right. and now your forehead looks beautiful. just a little bit more because your cheeks -- >> seth: okay, no. i think we could probably do this later. >> oh! i don't think so but you're the makeup artist now so that's good. [ laughter ] [ scattered applause ] >> seth: sorry about that. now back to a little peace and quiet. and mr. wade anthony boggs who i would definitely get along with because we both love chicken. [ light laughter ] true story. wade boggs wrote a cookbook called "fowl tips." f-o-w-l. get it? i do and i think it's funny. [ laughter ] [ beeping ] okay, so that's just a truck backing up. just got to wait it out.
and there we go. [ light laughter ] [ beeping ] >> seth: come on. >> hey, how much room do i got? >> about 1,000 feet. >> seth: a thousand feet? hey! could you guys just wait a few minutes, please? >> oh, sure thing, seth meyers. >> seth: okay. very sorry about that. ah-ha. red sox legend jim ranks is way too intimidating. not sure how much fun he'd be to go apple picking with. [ light laughter ] mike boddicker bet he would be a good friend to leaf peeping with. [ phone ringing ] >> seth: sorry, who's phone is that? >> mine. >> seth: are you, are you going answer it? >> i didn't want to interrupt you while you were doing your cardboard pictures of grown men wearing pajamas. [ light laughter ] >> seth: well, either answer it
or turn it off. >> okay. all right. fine. hello? [ light laughter ] hey. how's it going. no, no. what happened? no way! how many? three? and all of them were rockettes? [ laughter ] wait a minute, where? in the back seat of your car? way to go, grandpa! [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: thank you. okay. quiet moment officially begins now. [ beeping ] >> a little more. a little more. plenty of room. plenty of room. no room! stop! stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop! stop! [ crashes ] [ laughter ]
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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everyone. our first guest is a very funny comedian who hosts "the late late show" week nights on cbs. starting september 22nd, you can see him on the new show "celebrity name game." please welcome, craig ferguson. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> look at you! >> seth: look at us. look at us! >> we are back together. >> seth: oh, wait. i wanted to do this. >> what? >> seth: i wanted to -- in honor of you. >> oh, well, okay! now, you've done it, though. that's it. >> seth: i've done it but i have a spare set in my desk. >> okay. >> seth: so, if anything goes wrong -- >> well, no. keep them there. let's -- let's, let's dismantle the whole thing right now. >> seth: no, we're not going to take it apart. >> okay. >> seth: first of all, i've noticed something because you're also a host.
you wanted to make sure -- we both wanted to make sure the other person sat down first. >> well, that's just polite. >> seth: yeah. >> that's not hosting. that's just a -- good upbringing. >> seth: yes. [ laughter ] but at some point, you can end up with just two people very slowly sitting and then that's just terrible television. >> that -- you know what? that, but that is, that's what it's like being scottish all the time. [ laughter ] everybody in scotland is still standing up. >> seth: really? [ laughter ] >> yeah. for over 2,000 years, everyone's been doing this. [ laughter ] and we turned it into a dance. >> seth: really? >> yeah. >> seth: and that's why they shut down all of the chair factories in scotland. >> oh, chairs are a thing of the past over there. [ laughter ] oh, i think my microphone just fell off. hold on. >> seth: oh, did it? we can still hear you. >> or it might be something from my body. >> seth: oh, no. [ laughter ] >> yeah. i -- >> seth: well, let's hope it's the microphone. >> i feel very old. i -- everyone who works here and works all around, with the exception of the crew, no disrespect, they-- everyone else is very beautiful. >> seth: yeah. >> i mean, your audience is young and beautiful. [ cheers ] the people that work here are young and beautiful. the band is young and beautiful. some of the camera men are young and beautiful and you are young and beautiful.
>> seth: thank you. >> i feel like a hideous troll. [ laughter ] >> seth: you lit -- and you literally work with a skeleton. >> i do. that's true. [ laughter ] there's always time to find someone who's a little bit more beat up than you to be next to you. >> seth: you -- you know, i'm in the very early days of doing a -- a late night talk show. you've been ten years? >> yeah. >> seth: and -- [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i hope not -- i hope it doesn't get there. >> oh, it will, man. it'll get to you, man. it'll get to you. but here's the thing -- you just got to stay with it, right? when they ring the little bell, you come out here and you dance for nickels, all right? [ laughter ] >> seth: okay, great. >> and that's all you do. >> seth: you -- did you -- how, when did you feel like your show had become your show? like, when did you develop into what you felt most comfortable? >> i think it took me a couple of years. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> i think it took a couple of years. how are you feeling? do you think you're there yet? >> seth: no! no. definitely don't think i'm there yet. i mean, we've already gone -- this is our second set. [ laughter ] >> oh, really? i like this. this is pretty good. >> seth: yeah, it's a pretty good set. >> yeah, no, it's pretty good. clean, and the band look reasonably clean. [ laughter ] no, it's all right.
you'll probably mess it up a little more, that's all. >> seth: we'll bang it. >> the thing is -- i think anyone that does a tv show over and over and over again, you're going to go crazy. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> you're going to go crazy. i know you think you're not going to go crazy. you're going to go [ bleep ] crazy, seth. [ laughter ] >> seth: did you -- were -- do you go so crazy that you don't know the day you go crazy? >> yeah. that's the -- that -- that's -- and that's when the show is yours. [ laughter ] that's it. [ applause ] it is a funny thing though. >> seth: yeah. >> it's weird. it's, it's a weird experience. you know, it's like gary shandling said, "there's only one thing crazier than being on tv every day, that's wanting to be on tv every day." >> seth: right, yeah. >> so, welcome aboard, son. >> seth: when you interview people, you're very -- you have such a -- i'm, i'm jealous of how relaxed your style is with interviewing people. is that something that came natural to you? >> yeah. it's a jadedness that comes through time. you have to -- >> seth: yeah. >> you, you still care. [ laughter ] you have to -- you have to get to your point where you're like, "yeah, it don't matter." no.
you know what it is? i think what it is is that -- and this is clearly something that you have -- you just have to be interested in whoever you're talking to and you're fine. i mean, so, the -- so, the decision is made before they get to the -- to the show, for me anyway. it's like, when they say, "do you want to talk to, you know, celebrity a? well, let's call them." they go, "i'd love to." and then you go celebrity k for kardashian, "no, i'd rather not." you know what i mean? [ laughter ] so, you have to be genuinely interested in the person on the chair. and then for me, that's all that matters. >> seth: you know, it appears when you talk about kardashian -- because you made a really interesting, i don't know if you'd call it a stand, but a sort of statement of purpose with britney spears when she was having all of her trouble. >> oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> seth: and i remember working "weekend update," you basically said this isn't the kind of person who's worth going after. like, someone -- a young person who's having trouble. and -- >> yeah. >> seth: you try to go after people in power. and i remember at the time working on "weekend update" that i really took -- i thought that was a great point. >> well, it's what, it's what we do, right? i mean, we're meant to attack the powerful. if you attack weak people, then you're just a bully. and so when that, when that
woman -- when britney spears was going through that period in her life where clearly she was in great distress, then to kind of pile on and kind of thump them around, it didn't seem like the right thing to do. now, that being said, i failed sometimes to recognize that -- >> seth: mm-hmm. >> you know, since, since that point and occasionally, i think i've thrown a few punches at people that probably didn't deserve it. but you do a show every night. sometimes, you make mistakes. >> seth: right. well, i always -- you know for me as well. you know, i think with comedy, you sort of try to aim for that line -- >> right. >> and if you aim for the line, you're going to end up on the other side so many times. but again, there's so -- you throw so many punches. >> right. you're, you're, you're swinging all the time and occasionally -- occasionally you hit the wrong person -- [ laughter ] -- and then you feel very, very bad about yourself. >> seth: that's also a scottish tradition if i understand it. >> oh, feeling bad about yourself? oh, yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: also just taking a lot of swings. >> right. i like, i like to have, you know, in my mirror, so when i wake up in the morning there's a phrase there that says, "who do you think you are? nobody." [ laughter ] "that's who you are. you think you're great, but you're not great. you're rubbish." and as long as i keep that in my head, i feel i'll be truly
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to "late night," everyone. we're here with craig ferguson. so, you have a new game show. >> yeah. >> seth: tell us about it. >> it's game show and it's new. >> seth: wow. [ laughter ] >> it's called "celebrity name game." and it's -- you know that -- it's just a, a stupid game and it's fun. and it's like, you -- like, you know when you're, when you're trying to remember someone's name who's in a movie and you can't remember, so you describe them? and you're like, "you know, that fat guy that did that thing and he grew the beard and then went to rehab and came out and turned into a woman -- that guy! what's his name?" [ laughter ] well, that's basically the premise of the show. >> seth: so people have to -- >> that one clue, that's the only clue and however you interpret it. [ laughter ] no. it's just, it's kind of -- it's fun. it's from a board game, "identity crisis" and it's, it's kind of like easy. it's easy and fun. >> seth: we have a clip -- >> yeah. >> seth: that sort of turns back on you. you got -- do you want to explain what happened or should we just watch it first? >> well, let's -- let's just watch it first. >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> and then i'll get to see what
it is. >> seth: okay, great. [ laughter ] let's take a look at the clip. >> uh -- okay. oprah found him. he is -- >> dr. phil! [ ding ] >> yes! >> this guy right here. that cool person. >> oh, no! are you kidding me? [ laughter and applause ] [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> ooh, yeah. >> seth: that was great. >> yeah. >> seth: she knows right away she has no chance. [ laughter ] >> you know what was really annoying about that? i was really nice to her. i was like, "now, i hope you have a nice time at the game and i, craig ferguson, will help you with the game and, you know, if you don't win here then my name's not craig ferguson." [ laughter ] and i really, i -- apparently, i made no impact whatsoever.
[ laughter ] >> seth: when you have celebrities -- obviously, we saw david arquette there playing -- when you have celebrities come on and play, do you find -- are they competitive? are any of them -- have any of them surprised you? >> yeah, yeah. you know what's really funny is though, because of the clock ticking on the celebrities when they're given clues, they'll sometimes give clues and say what they really think about someone -- >> seth: right. >> which as you know in show business is a very rare thing. >> seth: right. [ laughter ] >> so, they'll say, "oh, it's that horrible guy that used to be with oprah -- oh, i mean he's great and he helps a lot of people!" and then you go, "dr. phil." and then it's easy. [ laughter ] it's really fun to watch them do that. >> seth: that's great. and i -- it must be watching -- again, that was just so fun to watch a woman, like, so heartbroken but also, you know, the stakes aren't that high. >> yeah! it's all right. >> seth: i love watching. it's the thrill of sports but with, like, regular people. >> right. but they can win! they can win -- $20,000 at the end of it. >> seth: well, that's no small thing. >> i mean, i know that's not money to you, mr. new york, but for me, that's money. >> seth: right. [ laughter ] this -- peter capaldi, dr. who, the new dr. who -- is this true that years ago you were in a band with him? >> yeah! yeah. i was just talking to someone
about that actually. because they were talking about how you get into late night and i said, "i don't know." because, you know, when the rest of the guys were at emerson or harvard or, you know, doing stuff like that, i was taking acid in the back of a van with the guy who ended up playing the doctor. [ laughter and applause ] you know? and i kind of -- i don't know how it happens. but yeah, peter who plays the doctor, not "dr. who" or i swear to god i'll come over there. >> seth: okay, gotcha, yeah. [ laughter ] >> so, he -- he and i were in a band called the dream boys together. which the dream boys were not, you know, we didn't strip. we should have, but we didn't. [ laughter ] and then there was an erotic dance troop came out later called the dream boys. but we were originally called the bastards from hell. >> seth: oh, wow. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: and you switched to the dream boys? >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: that's really opposite sides. >> it was a slightly different move in direction. you know, the weird thing is when i spoke at the white house correspondent's dinner -- you've done that, right? >> seth: yeah. >> isn't that a lot of fun? [ laughter ] the -- the -- george bush was making a speech
and he talked about me being in the bastards from hell. this is when bush was there. and bush and cheney were there. and he said, "craig was in a band called the bastards from hell, which is coincidentally the same name as dick cheney's band." which i thought was the best joke of the night. [ laughter ] >> seth: and you -- the year you did that was the year you became an american citizen, if i recall? >> yeah, i became a citizen in, like, i think february. and then i did the -- white house correspondent's dinner in march or april. >> seth: how'd you do? were you -- do you think you -- did you ace the test to become a citizen or were you right on the end? well, they changed it now. it's difficult now. >> seth: okay. >> but when i was doing it, it was still pretty easy. so, it was like, "do you like gum? do you hate al qaeda? you're in." [ laughter ] but now, it's like, it's hard. [ applause ] >> seth: well, we're so happy you're in. it's so great to have you here. >> good luck to you, man. >> seth: you know, when this started, i called you for advice. you were so lovely. and it's just great to have you here. >> well, you're a class act and i'm really -- i really hope you enjoy a good, long, happy run. but you'll go crazy. >> seth: all right, i can't
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our next guest is an academy award winning actress who you know from films like "the help" and "fruitvale station." starting tomorrow, you can see her in the new show "red band society." let's take a look. >> you want to tell me why you pushed a kid in a coma's call button? >> well the service here is terrible and i'm starving. bring me a kale salad with grilled chicken, dressing side and a mineral water. >> coming right up. what time are your parents getting here? >> they were in a meeting in san diego in morning, so like, another hour. >> mmm. new phone? >> yeah. jealous much? >> don't you ever press this call button again. ya understand? you know what happens to patients who cry wolf? we sell their organs for cash on the black market and split the money. [ laughter ] >> seth: please welcome octavia spencer. [ cheers and applause ] ♪
>> seth: welcome! >> thank you. >> seth: you look so beautiful. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you so much for having me. >> seth: so, you -- you won an oscar two years ago? >> yes, thank god. >> seth: congratulations. [ cheers and applause ] >> yes. >> seth: and you know, i -- you obviously have had so many projects to choose from yet you chose a show that's an ensemble cast. what made you want to do an ensemble thing? >> sleep. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> no, seriously, i -- was all excited about doing this project, this other project where i was going to be the definitive lead. and when it fell through, i started thinking about it. you know, she's only not in the show for that, the murder part. she would work every single solitary day and that's like 18 hours a day. >> seth: yeah, that's true. [ laughter ] >> and then i, ooh no. i'm like, "please! a little bit of sleep works." >> seth: gotcha.
i read that you were a little worried that this subject matter might be a bit of a downer because it's in a pediatric hospital. but it's, that's not the case with this show. >> no! my agent when he presented it to me, he's like, "it's about these kids who -- are in a pediatric hospital." and i thought "well -- ooh. i don't know that i want to do that every week." >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] >> and then i read the script and it was really, really funny and life affirming. and i -- i just, i dunno. when you think of hospitals, you don't think of that. but children's hospitals are very different from regular hospitals and that's what i had to learn. >> seth: you -- i still imagine there's some tear-jerking moments in the show. >> yes. >> seth: i cry all the time watching television but as an actor, i can't -- i could never cry. are you good at -- at crying on queue? can you do that? >> well, i can now because i -- i know what i need. >> seth: right. >> but i was doing this movie with sam jackson and, you know, right before you're in that emotional moment and you're ready and someone comes in, like your makeup artist, when your trying to have that little quiet moment with the baseball cards -- >> seth: yeah, yeah.
[ light laughter ] >> and somebody comes in, and their like, "ooh! your nose is shiny." and your like, "okay." and then cry, you're trying to squeeze the tear out. squeeze it out. [ laughter ] and you just feel so bad by the end of the night. and i said to sam jackson, "have you ever had that happen to you?" and he said, "nope." [ laughter ] thanks, sam! >> seth: that's very supportive. >> yeah! >> seth: if he said that to me, i would have cried right away. >> i know. i did. just started boohooing. [ laughter ] it's like, "camera!" "no, no. we're done for the day." but it was terrible. >> seth: you have had such an exciting year. you had a movie just opened "black and white" with kevin costner at toronto film festival. >> yes. yes. >> seth: congratulations. >> thank you so much. >> seth: and you were in one of my favorite movies of the summer, "snow piercer." >> oh! thank you. >> seth: "snow piercer" is so great. for people who havent seen "snow piercer" because i feel, as though you know i-you need for you to describe the movie a little bit. >> it is -- we're the only surviving people on the planet and it all takes place on this wonderfully beautiful passenger train. >> seth: how can you not want to see that movie? [ laughter ] and it's an action movie and you're not really known for action. did you like doing an action movie? >> i always thought i wanted to do it.
but there's this thing about action movies. you have to be physical. [ laughter ] and you can't -- you can't be afraid of being hit when you do stunts. and -- >> seth: yeah. >> yeah, i kind of am a little bit. [ light laughter ] >> seth: do people get hit doing stunts? i mean, i've never been in an action film. >> okay, so here's the situation. i've never done an action movie. so, like, you know. you do this choreography and i had this one little move that i was going the do for the whole bit and they do it from different angles and they change sides. >> seth: mmm, >> well, i'm right-handed and they changed sides and i didn't realize that they were changing sides. and i had this really hard rubber pick ax -- >> seth: mm-hmm. >> and the guy was supposed to do go this way and i -- went this way and hit him for real. and it was like, "oh, my god!" instead of being concerned for him, i started thinking, "oh, no. somebody can get me for real. [ laughter ] this isn't good. not good!" >> seth: you with chris -- chris evans in the movie. you got captain america in the movie. was he helpful in teaching you how to do these things? >> well, the thing about captain america, we were -- had
these long beautiful action sequences and the director, director bong, whenever something went beautifully, he would cut really emphatically. "cut!" [ light laughter ] and every time i would do my stunt, he'd just go, "cut." [ laughter ] and one day, the -- the stunt coordinator -- 'cause i only rehearsed like six hours. okay? >> seth: mm-hmm. >> the stunt coordinator came in and told chris, "okay. so you're going to go through that guy. you gotta get him off of you and your gonna kill that guy right there. your gonna go through him and there are going to be two more guys and you're going to go to the giant." and chris said, "okay." and action! and he does it and it's awe poetic and beautiful. and he got the emphatic, "cut!" and i'm standing there and i'm like a little jealous 'cause he's a guy, and i need more, more time with the stunt people. >> seth: right. right. >> and so i said, "you know, how long did you guys work on that, chris?" and he said, "just now." i said, "no. i understand you, like, you guys just did it just now but -- how long did you practice it?" and he said, "just now. he told me what i he wanted me to do. i did it." and i'm thinking, "okay, yeah.
so, i'm not good at stunts." [ laughter ] >> seth: he's had more practice. to be fair, he's had more practice. >> exactly. he's captain america, for god's sake. >> seth: yeah. you're -- you know, one of the roles you're most known for is "the help." that's what you won the oscar for. >> yeah. >> seth: congratulations. [ cheers and applause ] that's a beautiful movie. >> thank you. thank you so much. >> seth: and -- obviously it's a movie i'm sure people approach you about all the time. i heard a story, you were approached once in a way that maybe threw you a little bit. >> it definitely did throw me. the movie had come out but -- yet people would get really excited, i'm in the grocery store wearing my sweatpants and my ball on top of my head. you know, just running in there just trying to -- >> seth: what were you wearing on your head? >> it's just a little ball. you know, when you where your hair balled. >> seth: okay gotcha, sorry. [ laughter ] i try to -- i thought it was -- >> a beach ball? [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. i thought it was a hat that was a ball. and i thought, "you shouldn't do that when you go to the grocery store." >> i can't do it now anyway. anymore. but it's so funny. but i'm over there 'cause i'm not like a cook anyway and i'm trying to figure out which, you know, i don't know which cantaloupe to buy so i'm
thumping them because they say that's what you're supposed to do. and someone walks over and i have this -- line, "eat my --," you know. and this person -- i'm thumping, you know, just thumping and i hear that and i turn around, it's like, "wait, what's going on here?" you know? why would you say that to somebody -- it's not in context. >> seth: yeah. >> you know, those are fighting words. >> seth: right. [ laughter ] >> you know and i was ready. i'm like, "what's happening?" i'm not going to hit you but i'm going to run. you know, i know. >> seth: yeah, yeah. [ laughter ] >> but it's kind of funny when -- when people don't realize the that in that context, it throws you. >> seth: when people assume that you as an actress are always thinking of all of the parts you've ever played -- >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: and so when you hear a line of dialogue, you're instantly going to go back and say, "thank you so much." and i would assume, you know, and also just as a rule for everybody, when people are dealing with cantaloupes, they don't want to be -- they don't want to be bothered. [ laughter ] >> no. no. you know. it would be like me goings up to oprah. "sat in that jail, sat in that jail, till i near about rot to death." [ laughter ] from "the color purple"! she would freak out!
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everyone. our next guess tonight is a best selling crime fiction writer and historical novelist. he's the author of among others "la confidential" and "the black dahlia." his latest novel "perfidia" is in stores now. please welcome, james ellroy. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: thank you so much for being here. >> what a kick! pub week on this tv show. >> seth: thank you so much. >> god bless you. thanks for having me. >> seth: it's great to have you. i've been a fan of your books for a long time. for those who don't know, how would you explain your work.
>> l.a., come on vacation, go home on probation. [ laughter ] >> seth: that sounds about right. very crime centric. very l.a. centric. >> divorce center that's where i go when women divorce me. >> seth: you go back to l.a. and you go back to crime. >> yeah. and i go back to writing books so i can write the check. yeah. >> seth: that's very good. that's very good. you -- this is the first -- now you wrote an l.a. quartet, your wrote four books -- then you wrote a trilogy -- >> yes. >> seth: outside of l.a. now you're back to l.a. and this is the first in a new quartet. what? how? and when you approach going back to l.a. was it -- is it because you're just drawn to those type of stories? >> it's a life sentence with no parole, no means of atonement and no work for a while. if i write book outside of l.a., i have to write a corresponding number of books set in l.a. so, you have the l.a. quartet which is set between 1946 and 1958, "underworld u.s.a." trilogy '58 to '72.
now i'm back to a prequel quartet with characters from the two bodies of work as younger people. i think i'm afraid to die. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] you're making your characters younger as you get older. you're noticing -- >> yeah. >> seth: i see what's happening here. >> and if i could grow hair -- >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: if you can figure that out -- >> transplant. >> seth: you want some of this. >> yeah, i want some. [ laughter ] >> seth: now, you write these historical books and you yourself, you seem like you're set a little bit -- like you don't have a computer, a cell phone, tv? is this all true? >> yeah. i've never used a computer. i don't have a cell phone. i wrote that big book by hand. >> seth: wow! then you just send it off to someone to type it up. >> i have a very capable assistant who types for me. >> seth: that's great. >> my publisher is used to my eccentricities. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> i do go to the store. [ laughter ] some people explained to me franklin roosevelt is not the president. [ laughter ] >> seth: oh, you just heard. >> i just got the word. >> seth: oh, i'm so sorry. that must be so tough to hear. >> a shock. i voted for him.
[ laughter ] >> seth: oh, no. you -- is it -- is it exciting for you to go back to old characters? for me, it's exciting to read characters i, you know, i read in later books or sort of earlier books. but now it's -- do you have a relationship with your characters where it's exciting to let them, like revisit them, make them talk again? >> yes -- but don't believe any writer that says their characters do things that they didn't plan. that's disengenuous hoohah. [ light laughter ] what really happened is they got to a point where they had dramatic options and they chose one or the other. take the character kay lake from "perfidia." >> seth: mm-hmm. >> i'm deeply in love with her and i created her. so it's either narcissism or owninism because i'm sane. >> seth: mm-hmm. okay. [ light laughter ] >> they don't talk to me, these characters. i'm having a conversation with you and it's 2410. >> seth: all right. >> i think. >> seth: yeah. okay. i think so, too. [ laughter ]
you are -- you are so good at right in the vernacular of the era. >> yeah. >> seth: how do you -- where do you -- how do you know how people talked in 1941? like, where to you do the research or is that just something you know from your previous readings? >> i love the american idiom. i love yiddish. i love racial infective. even though it's drastically, dramatically censored nowadays. i love black hepcat jazz patois. i love alliteration. i love spelling nightclub "n-i-t-e-k-l-u-b." it gives me a great deal of joy. [ laughter ] >> seth: i love it. it gives me a great deal of joy to read it. and you have such an understanding, it seems to me of, in this book, just how the police work. where do you come up with -- do you talk to cops? do you -- have a life where you interact with them a great deal? >> i got in trouble as a kid and then i quit drinking and taking drugs and flew right and started
writing books. >> seth: yeah. >> and i love cops. i'm a spokesman in weyman's words, an apologist for the los angeles police department -- >> seth: okay. >> the mc of a yearly banquet of theirs and i live for crime. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> i just live for it. >> seth: yeah. >> i love it. [ light laughter ] it is the raciest, wildest raunchiest, deepest, most profound, most socially acute rebop and jive in the world. [ light laughter ] >> seth: you -- have subscribed yourself as "the demon dog of american literature." >> yeah. >> seth: explain what that means. >> i've never understood why people call me "the demon dog of american literature." but one of my ex-wives told me it might be because i eat alpo exclusively -- >> seth: yeah. >> -- drink toilet water -- >> seth: sure. that makes sense too. >> -- and ask to go for walks. [ laughter ] >> seth: oh, good. yeah. so, not that makes sense. now, it's a perfectly good nickname. >> especially if the woman
walking me is wear high black boots. [ laughter ] >> seth: now, this is one of four books. >> yeah. >> seth: you're done with it. >> yeah. >> seth: are you already on the next one? >> yes. yes. >> seth: and you extensively outline -- >> the outline for "perfidia" which is an epic novel of l.a. the month of the japanese attack -- >> seth: mm-hmm. >> on pearl harbor in the early days of a grave injustice of the japanese interment is the result of extensive research and a 700 page outline. >> seth: wow! a 700-page ouline. >> yeah! >> seth: that's really impressive. >> thank you. >> seth: and i can't believe that you have to -- for me, the craziest thing would be telling everybody this is the first of a quartet 'cause now you have to write the other three. >> i do. >> seth: yeah. >> i do. >> i place myself under that pressure continually. >> seth: well, you obviously know how to handle it. i'm very happy that you are able to. >> i'm glad, i'm glad you're doing well. >> seth: thank you. [ laughter ] >> do you like the job? do you like the gig? >> seth: i do like the gig. >> it's good, right? >> seth: i'm the demon dog of "late night." [ laughter ] >> and you're succeeding. >> seth: yeah. as are you. thank you so much for being here. >> my pleasure. james ellroy, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back. >> thank you so much.
♪ >> carson: welcome to the middle of the night. i'm carson daly, it's "last call." and you are looking at queen of the night, behind me, here at the paramount hotel in new york city. we've got another great show for you, tonight. music tonight from brooklyn-based punk-rock cerebral ballzy. the comedy's great, annie lederman. but right now, one of the country's most beloved authors, dennis lehane, who is the creative genius behind best-selling novels "mystic river", "gone, baby, gone", and "shutter island." his latest project is currently being released both as a book and a movie. it stars tom hardy, james gandolfini, and noomi rapace -- "the drop."