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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- micheal fassbender -- editor in chief of "the new yorker" david remnick -- live "new yorker" cartoons -- featuring the 8g band with fred armisen and craig finn. ♪ [ cheers andpplause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight out there? [ cheers and applause ] that is fantastic to hear. in that case let's get to the news. well, there are only four days until christmas. so hillary just choose a tree already. [ laughter ] you've been in the woods long enough. choose a tree and come home,
hillary. in order to reinforce his warning to vladimir putin about vote tampering, president obama reportedly used the so-called red phone that connects moscow to washington. that's what that does? said someone whose pizza never arrived. [ laughter and applause ] shouldn't have made it pizza hut red. john mccain recently said that a friendship between donald trump and vladimir putin is unlikely because reality is going to intercede at one point or another. but i ask you, do these two men look like they are at all concerned about reality? [ laughter ] [ applause ] i live in a gold house. i ride a horse, no shirt. i am in fantasy novel. i'm also in a fantasy novel. netflix began streaming a biopic
of president obama this weekend called "barry." they'll also air a documentary about trump's presidential win called "barely." [ light laughter ] the reason that joke doesn't work is it was a historic blowout. donald trump has now waited over four times longer than any other president-elect to hold a post-election press conference. he is basically treating the press like a tinder date. they did every dirty thing he wanted and now he's ignoring their texts. [ laughter ] some tinder dates who've been on the wrong side of it out there. ford announced today that it will resume car production in venezuela starting this april. employees will celebrate with a fiesta. [ laughter ] was waiting for the standing
ovation. i guess it's not coming. the gambling industry has reportedly asked donald trump to lower regulations on casinos while he's in office. hey, we've already gambled our entire country's future on red. may as well go double or nothing. [ applause ] and finally, a novelty shop is selling a hipster nativity scene that features joseph with his hair in a man bun. which explains why mary was so adamant about remaining a virgin. ladies and gentle men we've got a fantastic show for you tonight. [ cheers and applause ] he's a fantastic actor starring in the new film "assassin's creed", our friend michael fassbender is back on the show. [ cheers and applause ] he is the editor in chief of "the new yorker" and he's got a fascinating new book, "the 60s, the story of a decade," david remnick is here tonight. and that always means, when david's here all new edition of live new yorker cartoons, one of our favorite things we do here at the show. so you're here an excellent
night. but before we get to all of that, with donald trump about to take office, we are soon to embark on the most tweet-filled presidency in history. so in an effort to keep up with donald trump's activity on social media it's time for our new segment, "tweetin' with the prez." ♪ ♪ yall ready for this >> seth: basically donald trump's twitter feed will serve as his version of fdr's fire side chats. if fdr used his fireside chats to say stuff like this. >> the only thing we have to fear is fear itself and mexicans. >> seth: we're about to enter an era where our president can bypass the traditional press directly and spread lies and conspiracy theories unfiltered through his twitter account. for example, the incoming chief of staff reince priebus recently suggests that trump might completely scrap the traditional daily press briefings the white house does with reporters. >> i think that many things have to change and i think that it's important that we look at all of
those traditions that are great, but quite frankly as you know don't really make news and they're just sort of -- >> no. it's horrible. >> mundane boring episodes. >> seth: boring episodes? this country needs boring episodes right now. the last 18 months have been so insane, it's like a season of "game of thrones" where every episode is "the battle of the bastards." [ laughter ] we all need a break from this action. i can't believe i'm saying this, but america needs some bran. [ light laughter ] on top of that, trump hasn't had a press conference since july which means we are increasingly dependent on his twitter account for information about what he's doing. like this weekend when china seized the u.s. naval drone in international waters and trump tweeted quote "china steals united states navy research drone in international waters. rips it out of water and takes it to china in unprecedented act." but drawing as much attention as his shoot from the hip foreign policy was his apparent inability to spell because the
original tweet trump wrote that it was an unpresidented act. unpresidented is not a word of course, but it would be a great title for a movie about hillary clinton. [ laughter ] she was inevitable until she became unpresidented. and i'm not criticizing trump for being bad at spelling. i'm bad at spelling, it's just i pay attention when twitter tells me when i spelled something wrong. conservatives complain that obama ignored the red line in syria. trump ignores it on twitter. [ light laughter ] but of course in our new post-truth era, there is no right or wrong way to spell, as trump's spokesperson kellyanne conway said in a statement after the tweet, "while liberals focus on spelling, donald trump is focused on the american people and their problems." [ applause ] but again, and this is important. spelling is only a distraction. we are not all going to die because donald trump can't spell.
unless he accidentally starts a nuclear war with an email like this to vladimir putin. [ laughter ] i'll have my people kill your people. back to foreign policy, of course trump's team thought his incoherent tweet actually worked when china gave the drone back following a diplomatic protest from the obama administration, trump's communication director tweeted quote donald trump gets it done china says it will return u.s. drone it seized. yeah that's right. trump got china to give the drone back. although i'm not sure trump knows that. because a few hours later he tweeted "we should tell china that we don't want the drone they stole back. let them keep it." but of course trump doesn't just conduct foreign policy on twitter. he also lashes out at news organizations over even the mildest criticism like when he tweeted last week. has anyone looked at the really poor numbers of "vanity fair" magazine. way down. big trouble. dead. grayden carter. no talent, will be out. he writes his tweets like he's interpreting them from a border collie.
what's that girl? way down? big trouble? dead? mine collapse. worker trapped. call the sheriff. go. [ cheers and applause ] the tweet was apparently prompted by an article that claimed trump grill could be the worst restaurant in america. oh come on. trump grill is not even the worst restaurant in mid-town. [ light laughter ] and then there was trump's recent meeting with the heads of major tech companies which conspicuously excluded you are not going to believe this twitter. how could he not invite twitter. twitter is the only technology trump uses. i can't see him ordering off amazon. melania are we prime? i need to make sure ivanka get's her presents by christmas. i'm doing 30-day shipping for eric and donald jr. [ light laughter ] twitter's exclusion was not an accident. in fact it was apparently done out of revenge as politico reported twitter was told it was bounced from wednesday's meeting between tech executives and trump. in retribution for refusing during the campaign to allow an emoji version of the hash tag
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: you know our first guest tonight from his academy award nominated performances in "12 years a slave" and as co-founder of apple "steve jobs." his new film "assassin's creed" based on the video game franchise is in theaters tomorrow. let's take a look. >> what is this? >> i'm sorry, cal. this is not the way i like to do things. >> then don't do it. [ yelling ] what do you want from me? >> your past. listen to me carefully, cal. you're about to enter the animus. what you're about to see, hear, and feel are the memories of someone who's been dead for 500 years. >> wait a minute.
>> synchronization achieved. >> commence regression. >> seth: please welcome back to the show michael fassbender. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: welcome back. >> thank you very much. >> seth: always such a pleasure to have you here. >> great to be back. >> seth: so for people who might not know this video game give us a sense of what this is about because you actually get to play two versions of yourself. >> i do, yeah. basically it starts in the garden of eden. where all good stories start. >> seth: like this is going to be a long story, because i feel like when you start there -- all your stories start there and i'm like, "michael, we have to pick
up the pace." [ light laughter ] >> no, basically it's a world where templars and assassins are at war with each other for basically the future of humanity and templars believe in science and order. they also believe some people should be enslaved and they kind of run the world and then you've got assassins that believe in free will for all people and they're there to maintain and protect at all costs. what you saw there was the animus, which is a kind of genetic delorian if you like. it's like a genetic time machine. that allows you to access your ancestor's memories because all of us in our dna have the knowledge and experience of our ancestors within our dna. something that you might think of as a sixth sense. or a gut feeling or an instinct and that's actually a survival tool that is passed down to us from our ancestors. and with this machine you can access their dna and travel back
in time. >> seth: and you're -- the ancestor version of you is of course a lot more kickass than the present day version of you. >> well -- >> seth: i don't know! i'm just saying, you get to wear a hood. we saw you there and you did not have the hood. >> yes. >> seth: this is your hood work. >> one of them talks a lot and the other one doesn't talk that much. >> seth: right. when you go -- when we see ancestor version not a lot of dialogue. >> that's right. >> seth: was that refreshing? do you, as an actor, are you psyched when you see "oh, man, i don't have to say anything?" >> well, luckily i was involved as a producer in this so i made sure that i didn't have much to say. no, it's in spanish, the regression part of it. so i don't speak spanish. >> seth: as a producer did you ever think of casting someone else. [ laughter ] >> it did cross my mind. >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> so yeah we wanted to keep the spanish to a minimum for myself. >> seth: so give us some of the spanish words. do you even remember any of the three spanish words? >> i can't believe you're asking
me that. oh god. um. >> seth: que. you say que a lot. you're like confused. >> si, si, si. [ speaking spanish ] >> seth: oh, so there you go. you're fine. what was that? >> our own lives are nothing. >> seth: oh, that's perfect dialogue. [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: that would be if you got rosetta stone and that was the first thing it taught you you'd be like i don't think i want these tapes. [ laughter ] >> by the way all the spanish are people who are going, "that's not what he said." it's like, i'd like some hot sauce. >> seth: yeah, exactly. he said this piaya is too chewy. [ laughter ] by the way this is assassin -- this is an assassin hood. >> that is an assassin costume with hood. >> seth: i think this is problematic because assassins need to be sneaky. anybody who saw this guy would say this guy is an assassin. >> but in a time where a lot of people were wearing hoods -- >> seth: oh so this was the look. this is what dentist look. >> imagine, you know -- imagine this was a hoodie in sort of track suit form in modern day. >> seth: gotcha. >> just blend in. >> seth: this is a college kid on his way to the coffee shop. >> that's right, yeah. >> seth: you mentioned not having a lot of -- >> apple picking. >> seth: did you have any
parkour knowledge before this film because? >> luckily yes. >> seth: you did? >> i'm excellent at parkour. [ laughter ] pretty much like my spanish. i had to work on the parkour. yeah. >> and did you do a lot of your own physical stunts in the film? >> no, because i'm a producer. [ laughter ] >> seth: you're too valuable. if anything happened to you -- >> i can't do that. that's a rolie polie. i can't do a rolie polie. [ laughter ] i -- no, i did, you know, it was very important because we filmed this kind of old school way. you know, all the stunts take place in real locations with real people. a lot of the times with these sort of films now it's very cgi dominated so, you know, we didn't want to do that and so yes i did a lot of it. i did myself -- and ariane labed, she plays maria. we did 95% of the fights ourselves and some of the jumps and we did 120 foot leap of faith.
well we, i say we. a guy called damien walters, my stunt double, did. and he did it -- >> seth: you had faith in him. [ laughter ] >> i did. you know, because he did it without, you know, any wires, no cords. >> seth: wow. >> yeah. into an inflatable bag. >> seth: now tell me when you do that, is that something you only have one shot at or do you make damien -- do you say, "aw lens cap -- >> we have a few damiens. [ laughter ] >> seth: the key is to have a back up damien. >> luckily, yeah. exactly. >> seth: i want to ask you about this. last time you were here we talked a little backstage about this. you were in the fantastic quentin tarantino film, "inglorious basterds." a film i love. >> yeah. >> seth: and when you were 17 years old did a stage production of "reservoir dogs." >> yes. >> seth: and this was your idea. you produced that as well. is that fair to say? >> i did, yeah. yeah, i directed it and produced it from what i knew what that was at the time because i was just so, you know, naive but i had a lot of passion and just got my friends together. we started off just filming it in the locker room at the school.
our version of "reservoir dogs" and i said to my friend marco, who is actually backstage now. i said, "you know, we should do this on stage. it's perfect for stage. it's really, you know, takes place in, you know, the warehouse for most of it." so then we got the ball rolling but the problem was nobody really wanted to be associated with the "reservoir dogs" because the material was so controversial and it was very -- it was difficult to even get a charity to take the money. >> seth: oh, wow. >> but in the end, revel's nightclub, which was a nightclub in killarney, and still is i think, said you can do it here. so we put it on in the nightclub and we had all the strobe lighting, all the cool lighting and sound effects so it worked out well. >> seth: and then when you met quentin tarantino, did you tell him you had done this production without his permission? >> i did. [ light laughter ] i did. i couldn't help it. i had to tell him at the audition in case i never saw him again and he was like -- his face was sort of like that and i said, "don't worry i said. we gave the money to charity and he's like, "that's cool, man."
[ laughter ] as long as you're not making any money out of my [ bleep ]. [ laughter ] >> seth: he was worried -- he was worried you were profiting off of him. >> am i allowed to say [ bleep ]? >> seth: you can say it, yeah. well, you know, if you hadn't the follow up would have been problematic. >> exactly. [ laughter ] >> seth: you're allowed to say it once. so you mentioned, obviously, you grew up in ireland and i think this -- people might misunderstand that they assume people who are irish watch a lot of british television but you grew up very much on american tv. >> well, actually in southern ireland we didn't get bbc and british channels so it was just rd one and rd two. so we would get a lot of american tv shows. >> seth: and i've heard you are -- you have a talent. i don't know if it's a talent. we'll find out. >> it's a strange thing, yeah. >> seth: is this -- you can do theme songs from the 80s. >> yeah. >> seth: and i'm gonna try and guess what they are, 'cause i also was a child of the 80s. >> okay. >> seth: so, challenge. >> okay. we'll start off with the first one. ♪ [ laughter ]
[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i have no idea. what was it? >> i'm not -- it wasn't necessarily a synthesizer, but it was the only sound that i could really sort of make sense of. [ laughter ] "trapper john md." >> seth: "trapper john md?" >> that might be 70s. >> seth: that might be 70s. yeah and also i'm thinking of all of these kickass 80s shows and you chose "trapper john md." >> well i gotta find obscure ones. >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> i can't do the sort of, normal ones. i'll give you another one. ♪ [ laughter ] ♪ [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i don't know again -- what was it?
>> well, that last bit that i sung was when bruce boxleitner comes in. so does that -- >> seth: was it the hulk? no wait. >> no. >> seth: oh, i'm thinking of bruce -- another bruce. >> yeah, that's bruce banner. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> no, he was the actor's name. the other guy. "scarecrow and mrs. king." >> seth: oh my goodness. scarecrow and mrs. king. did anyone know that? no. all right. [ laughter ] this is, by the way, this is so much harder than i thought it would be. [ laughter ] >> i know. >> seth: alright, one more. >> okay, i'll do a more mainstream -- >> seth: you're very good at this. >> i'll do another mainstream one. okay, let me see. okay. ♪ [ light laughter ] ♪
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. please give it up for the 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause ] and very excited, back tonight, singing with the 8g band, he is here all week, the lead vocalist of one of my absolute favorite bands, "the hold steady" and now his third solo record, "we all want the same things" will be available for preorder on january 10th. craig finn is here everybody. [ cheers and applause ] >> thanks for having me. >> seth: thank you so much for being here. i'm so excited. also you guys are having a good night, fred armisen is over on the drums. give it up for fred, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] and fred, of course one of my oldest friends, so happy to have him here because we get caught up and one of the things we always catch up on, we're huge tv fans. >> fred: love it. >> seth: love tv. >> fred: yes. >> seth: i always complain too many shows on tv right now, can't watch them all.
fred claims he sees every episode of every show on television. >> fred: everything, yes. [ light laughter ] >> seth: i find that hard to believe. >> fred: no, it's true. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] if it is not true, now would be the time to tell me you just made it up to impress me. >> fred: no, it's true, everything. >> seth: okay, that means it's time, once again, for "fred armisen's extremely accurate tv recaps." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ so the way this works is i will read a television show title and fred will prove to us all that he has watched it by describing it to the word from its tv guide description. the name of the show is "shut eye" on hulu. >> fred: oh, "shut eye," it's on hulu. >> seth: yeah, i said it was on hulu. [ light laughter ] >> fred: oh, you did, okay, yeah. so have you seen any of it? >> seth: no. >> fred: it's incredible. have you seen a pilot -- >> seth: i haven't seen -- i have not. when i say i haven't seen any of it, i haven't seen any of it. [ light laughter ] >> fred: they put all the episodes on it, you know that, right. like they did -- >> seth: yeah, i know how it works, yeah. >> fred: they did everything. the first -- the first episode is really the pilot. >> seth: okay. >> fred: but it's actually -- >> seth: i feel like you are explaining how tv and hulu works, not how the show works. [ laughter ] >> fred: just making sure you know.
>> seth: okay. >> fred: it is based on the books. [ laughter ] >> seth: it is based on the "shut eye" books? >> fred: on the -- do you know the "shut eye" books? >> seth: i don't know the books. >> fred: oh, you don't know the "shut eye" books? >> seth: please don't ask me how many i've read, i haven't read any of them. [ laughter ] >> fred: no, none of it? >> seth: no. >> fred: okay, it's a really incredible series of books and it's very true to the books. [ laughter ] >> seth: okay, again, you haven't given me a single detail. >> fred: okay but it's by tj stevenson and it's sort of, it's so hard to explain if you haven't read the books. [ laughter ] it's really, really hard to explain. >> seth: just try. >> fred: i know, i know, it's just -- >> seth: okay, how about this? pretend i asked you, what are the "shut eye" books about? >> fred: okay, great. [ light laughter ] so there is an alternate reality. it's so hard to explain. okay, so, these people have come back from the dead, but because it's an alternate reality, they are not dead. do you understand that, so far? >> seth: barely. [ light laughter ] >> fred: okay, so it's -- >> seth: who is the author again? >> fred: tj stevenson.
[ light laughter ] and so every episode is a repeat of the episode before because it's an alternate reality, but a different dead/live person comes back and it's how each -- i know it's crazy, but it's how each character sees that dead or alive person, depending -- you've read none of the books? [ laughter ] >> seth: can i just read you the description that was in tv guide about this show. >> fred: okay. >> seth: to see if it matches up with what you're telling me? >> fred: sure. >> seth: two married scam artists apply their in sunny california where they squirm under the violent rule of a gypsy crime family. >> fred: yeah, yes. [ laughter ] >> seth: give it up from fred armisen, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] in any given week, here on the show, we don't have enough time to cover everything that's going on in the world. so here with your pop culture news recap, is one of the writers, amber ruffin, in a segment we call, "amber says what." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> thanks, seth. things have been out of control.
first off, rob kardashian and black chyna broke up and i was like, "what?" in other news, prince harry got himself a girlfriend and i was like, "what?" [ laughter ] then i heard she was black and i was like, "what!?" [ laughter ] because you know the queen heard that and was like, "pardon?" [ laughter ] people were like super mario run is out. you got to download it. i was like, "what, what?" they were like, "it's free." and i was like, "what, what, what?" then the game was like to play level four, that will be $9.99. i was like, "what?" [ light laughter ] then, the couple from hgtv split. and i was like, "what?" and people were like, "no, not them, them." [ light laughter ] and i was like, "what." then everyone was like c lo green died from an exploding phone. and i was like, "what!"
then he released a statement saying he was just filming something. and i was like, "forget you! what, what, what." this has been "amber says what." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ >> seth: give it up for amber, everybody. we'll be right back with our friend, david remnick. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ there is no typical day. there is nothing typical about making movies. i'm victoria alonso and i'm an executive producer... ...at marvel studios. we are very much hands-on producers. if my office... ...becomes a plane or an airport the surface pro's perfect. fast and portable but also light. you don't do this 14 hours a day, 7 days a week for... ...decades if you don't feel it in your heart. listen, i know my super power is to not ever sleep. that's it. that's the only super power i have. whatwho convinced you toone follow your dreams with one cross country road trip?
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story of a decade" is in bookstores now. please welcome back to the show, our friend, david remnick, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ >> seth: how are you? >> great band. >> seth: they're a great band >> i want to join. >> seth: oh, you do want to join? >> i do. >> seth: and that's right, you play -- you play music. you play guitar. >> yeah, you got room? >> seth: we would love to have you. when you are ready to leave the media, we are very happy to have you. >> i'm ready now! >> seth: and you know what, it might be that the media might be asked to leave. >> they -- yeah, when they shut the door. >> seth: when they shut the door but you can't leave. you are at the top of your game. congratulations, new yorker was just named magazine of the year and you were just named magazine editor of the year. congratulations. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you. >> seth: nice honor. >> thank you. >> seth: with that said, i now want to move past the positives. >> yeah. >> seth: because you have not been particularly optimistic in your early writings. and you already written quite a bit since election night.
>> yeah. >> seth: and you are one of the people i think it's safe to say that is saying, this might be worse than everybody is hoping it will be. or worse than they think it is going to be. nobody is hoping it's going to be bad. >> let me just say this. if it turns out that donald trump is the greatest republican since abraham lincoln, i will be thrilled. >> seth: same here. >> i will be thrilled. i don't think it's going to be the case. [ light laughter ] and everything that he campaigned on, everything that i see in the transition from the november 8th until now, really doesn't portend well. i mean when you have somebody that's in charge of the environment that seems to hate the environment. when you have a national security adviser that seems a little, you know like he should be in dr. strangelove. >> seth: mmm-hmm. >> that's a problem. >> seth: yeah, these do sound problematic. >> that's a problem and when you are trying to figure out how to run a national government and you think the best thing to do with your time at 5:00 in the morning is tweet about the
editor of "vanity fair," maybe that's a little distracted. >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] >> and i really believe that if you miss -- if you are going to miss barack obama in a month, you are really going to miss him in six months. and i say that in all seriousness and knowing that no presidency is perfect, but i think the temperament, the honesty, the lack of scandal, the seriousness, the sense of compassion for people who are not like you, was a component of this presidency and much more that we are going to miss very, very dearly. [ applause ] >> seth: you wrote an article and spent time -- you spent time with the president leading up to the election. you were with him after the election. how do you think he is feeling right now? >> actually i live with him. >> seth: you lived with him? >> yeah, i did. no, what happened was -- to do a piece, i went on a campaign stop to north carolina a few days before the election, and was on air force one and every poll was
saying, including the president's polls, hillary clinton's poll and the trump polls and the national polls were all saying the same thing, more or less. and the president came in the back of the plane and i said, "you feeling really enthusiastic or optimistic?" and he said, "nope, nope." >> seth: wow. >> and i think he had an intimation that things were going to be extremely tight, but that they were going to win. and then came election day and you know what happened there. i think you all do. [ light laughter ] and then i came down to interview him a couple of days after. and when i tell you that the atmosphere at the white house was like a funeral home. it was really -- it was just purely funereal. but obama himself was determined to buck everybody up. because as president, you know, it says in "the bible," the one thing that is unforgivable is despair. despair is impermissible. and i think it's impermissible for us. there might be people out here that are pro-trump and god
bless, but if you are really down about the election, i think if you are a journalist, you have to continue to do your job and do it in a fact-based reality world and check those facts and speak the truth and put pressure on power. if you are a citizen, you need to do things as citizens. even in entertainment, you need to tell the sharpest jokes possible. you can't give up. despair is not permissible at all. and i think that's what obama's behavior has been about since election day. >> seth: you've had a similar position, you brought your staff in the day after the election. how would did you -- what was the refocusing you had to tell the people on team "new yorker" as far as moving forward? >> i think it's like in a lot of workplaces, i didn't presume about anything about anybody's politics. i can guess that the majority of the people in the room probably voted for hillary or certainly didn't want to see trump president, but i said, "look, we have a very important job to do. "the new yorker" is not just about cartoons or jokes or short stories or any of the many things that we are about."
our biggest job as journalists, is put pressure on power. to be fair, to be balanced, to go in deep and to be fearless. and we now live in a world in which journalism is a mess. it's a wash in a sea of whatever i can't say on television. >> seth: right. [ light laughter ] >> and it's the focus and it's the function not just of a bunch of fake news mills in montenegro or moscow, but it's happening -- it's right here in this country. the guy who is the senior counselor to the president, who is going to be sitting 20 feet away from donald trump, ran a news site called "breitbart," that was filled with things that were hateful. that were anti-semitic at times, that were racist, that were fake. that's who is sitting down the hall. that's a serious state of affairs. and so people at the "new york times," "the washington post" or "the new yorker" or what have you, who live -- make mistakes,
but live in a fact-based world. i think their -- our jobs are -- have never been more important. >> seth: it seems as though -- >> even with a sense of modesty, but they are really important to do well. >> seth: is there a sense of not despair, but dread that the goal post has been moved. because now it seems as though if you want to get your news from places that are not living by the same fact-based metric, you can go and get it. you completely can run around "the washington post," you can live your life without ever looking at the "new york times" or "the new yorker." i'm sorry to say that. >> i think a lot of people do. and that's fine, but part of the problem is that if you go on facebook and a lot of people get their news through facebook as a platform, that a piece in the "new york times" looks exactly the same as a piece that has aliens taking over the pittsburgh steelers or hillary clinton guilty of some crime. >> seth: neither of those are true, right? >> so as far as i know. [ light laughter ] >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> i don't know about the steelers. >> seth: yeah, exactly. >> i don't know about the steelers. so that's a problem in
appearance. and then once you are reading the stuff that you want to read, that confirms your own view of the world, you then like it and create a community of your own. that's a different world than the old press world. i'm not saying the old one was great. >> seth: right. >> the "new york times" made mistakes, major ones. "the washington post," "the new yorker," whatever. but this is something else. this is an entirely different universe that we haven't quite figured out yet and it had a real effect on the election. and that's not the only thing that had an effect on the election. >> seth: obama has been cordial so far with president-elect trump. do you -- when do you think -- do you think we will ever find out what president obama really thinks? >> i think it's always important to listen to michelle. >> seth: okay, i got you. [ light laughter ] >> and michelle obama gave an interview to oprah winfrey and she said, "this is the first time where we are starting to feel what life is without hope. >> seth: mmm-hmm. >> and i think if you listen to that, and if you listen to what obama said during the campaign which was extremely tough on
trump. i think you know what he means. >> seth: yeah. and you pointed out in your article, he is someone -- he seemed to enjoy having trump as a foil on the campaign trail. and now it's a different think, now it's a threat to a legacy. he did mention in the article that he might one day have a beer with you, sit down, have a beer and tell what you he really thinks of trump. is that -- >> i'm not going to sit by the phone every second of the day. [ laughter ] growing old waiting for that beer. i think we know. >> seth: yeah, i do. >> i think we know, obama said over and over in the campaign that trump was uniquely unqualified and unfit in terms of temperament, preparation, and all kinds of aspects of him to be president of the united states. i have no reason to believe that his opinion changed on november 9th. >> seth: can you give us anything for optimism? you don't want to throw anything out? >> the sun will come up in the morning. >> seth: okay, thank you. [ light laughter ] >> and the president is not the dictator of the world. >> seth: right. >> there are institutions
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to "late night." now david, one of the most popular features in "the new yorker" are the cartoons. >> true. >> seth: they really lighten the mood after reading a 20,000 word piece on the failing criminal justice system. >> at "the new yorker" we like to make you laugh and then weep. >> seth: yes, i think that you're effective at that. and now in what has become a tradition here on "late night" every time you appear on the show, we present live "new yorker" cartoons. >> and every time we do this segment, seth subscriptions to our magazine increase 50-fold.
>> seth: is that true? >> it is not true. [ laughter ] >> seth: okay. >> it actually kills us. >> seth: it hurts you. >> yeah. >> seth: people cancel their subscriptions. >> they do. >> seth: so, without further adieu, our theater troop in residence "the late night players" are happy to debut a special holiday edition of cartoons entitled "live new yorker cartoons walking in a winter punderland." >> punderland. >> seth: punderland. >> punderland. >> seth: puns very popular in "new yorker" cartoons. lets hear our first cartoon. originally drawn by alex gregory. >> stop avoiding me. i know when you are sleeping. i know when you're awake. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> i think i got that one, but can you explain the cartoon? >> i can, seth. are you familiar with the complex ebbs and flows of marital life? >> seth: i am. >> so am i and so is santa.
the only difference is mrs. clause can't pretend that she is sleeping in order to avoid an argument with her husband because her husband has magical powers. >> seth: i see. well, that is just an excellent distillation of both the piece and santa and marriage. now our next cartoon is by harry bliss. >> try rolling on the ground. roll around. on the ground. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: david -- >> great hats. >> seth: it was great. great hats. >> great hats. >> seth: but tell us, what did we just see? >> seth, other than a sleigh flown by reindeer, what are santa's other means of transportation? >> seth: a chimney. >> correct. and what comes out of chimneys? >> seth: smoke. >> caused by? >> seth: fire. >> and there in lies the joke, seth. santa claus is currently on fire and the elves are just doing the best they can.
>> seth: well, there you go. and in that cartoon do you think santa makes it? >> i do not. >> seth: all right. [ light laughter ] our next cartoon is by paul noth. >> first of all this conversation never happened. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: fantastic. david, explain. >> well, seth, you are jewish, aren't you? >> seth: no. >> seth, does your face know? >> seth: very good. >> well this jewish boy has chosen to surreptitiously meet with santa claus about receiving more presents because even with hanukkah, jewish children often feel slighted at this time of the year. >> seth: and did you feel that way growing up? >> yes, seth, i would get royally screwed. >> seth: alright, perfect. our next cartoon is by pat burns.
>> carl, no! [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: that is a fantastic cartoon. i think i definitely got that one, but david, explain. >> it's a simple comedic analogy, seth. gun is to human what hair dryer is to snowman. >> seth: i see. quick question. what was the hair drier even plugged into? >> i don't know, seth. why were snowmen alive and talking? [ laughter ] don't be such a tight ass. enjoy the cartoon. >> seth: good one. [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: fair point. anything you would like to say about our last cartoon? >> yes, "new yorker" subscriptions make excellent holiday gifts. and if you subscribe now, you get a free calendar. that's a $380 value for just $94. >> seth: that seemed more like a plug then anything about the cartoon. >> i said what i came here to
[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: my thanks to micheal fassbender, david remnick, fred armisen, craig finn and the 8g band. stay tuned for carson daly, we'll see you tomorrow. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> carson: good evening, and welcome to "last call." i'm carson daly, and we have a fine show heading your way, including a spotlight on "graves" staskylar astin, the