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>> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- taraji p. henson, from "mozart in the jungle" actress, lola kirke, chief political anchor of fox news, bret baier, featuring the 8g band with abe cunningham. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers, this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] fantastic. fantastic to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. donald trump this weekend will give his first sunday morning news interview since the election. and it's a big sacrifice for him because sunday morning is usually when he tweets about "saturday night live."
[ light laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] he'll find the time. he'll still find the time. during trumps sunday morning news interview he is expected to discuss the agenda for his first 100 days in office. said trump, wait, i have to be president for a hundred days? [ laughter ] i'm running a business. trump adviser, kellyanne conway, told reporters today that donald trump is a huge elton john fan. that can be cured, said mike pence. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] i know you're an elton john fan now. but together we can beat this. [ laughter ] donald trump's team is reportedly desperate for an a-list celebrity to perform at his inauguration. with one official saying they can quote, do better than kid rock. besides kid rock is going to be too busy with his new job as secretary of state.
[ laughter and applause ] a new study found that women in the arts earn an average of $20,000 per year less than their male colleagues. which explains why this woman looks so mad at her husband. [ laughter ] you know, because she's in the arts. when you're in a painting, that mean you're in the arts, according to our writer who wrote that joke -- [ laughter and applause ] that makes this much sense. at its best -- at its best that joke makes this much sense. [ laughter ] scientists reportedly predicting that 5 billion years the sun will expand and destroy all life on earth. though most experts agree this orange ball of gas may do it sooner. [ cheers and applause ] and finally, finally tonight,
according to a new study, playing video games releases the same level of dopamine in the brain as an orgasm. the only difference is, i know how to give my wife a video game. [ laughter ] [ applause ] here you are, dear. "call of duty: special ops." you guys, we have a great show for you tonight. you know her as cookie from the smash hit "empire." she has a new film "hidden figures", taraji p. henson is back on the show. [ cheers and applause ] one of our favorites. also, she's in amazon's "mozart in the jungle," lola kirke is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] the fantastic actress to talk about her wonderful show. plus we have chief political anchor of fox news and host of "special report," bret baier is here tonight. so looking forward to talking to him about everything going on in the world today. before we get to all of that, president-elect donald trump scored an early political win when he claimed to have struck a deal to save more than a thousand jobs at a carrier plant in indiana. but the details of the deal that
have since come out have undercut to some degree trump's victory lap. for more on this it's time for a closer look. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: donald trump was able to win rust belt states in the midwest in part by fashioning himself as a champion of the working man and impressive feat considering that the only tool he's ever used is a a spork from kfc. [ light laughter ] and in almost every campaign rally, he promised to keep american jobs in the u.s. offering one specific example, carrier, a company that makes air conditioners and other ventilation systems which was planning to move about 2,100 jobs from two facilitates in indiana to mexico. trump repeatedly pledged that he would punish companies like carrier for outsourcing jobs and would personally intervene to try and stop them. >> i'm not going to let other countries take our jobs, like carrier where they move their factory to mexico, they fire everybody. we're not going to lose carrier air conditioning from indianapolis. we're not going to let carrier come in, make air conditioners
in mexico, sell the air conditioners to us, across a very strong border now without consequence. there will be consequences. they will pay a 35% tax on every air conditioner that comes across the border. you're looking at a situation in our country where our jobs are being ripped out of our states. i'm not just talking here. they are being ripped out of our states. they're being ripped out of our country, like i say it -- like candy from a baby. >> seth: who rips candy from a baby? the whole point of taking candy from baby is that it's supposed to be easy. you don't need to rip it from them. [ light laughter ] trump is always so much more extreme than necessary. if i see baby with candy, what i do is i punch him out and then rip it from his unconscious hands then tie the baby's feet together so that when the baby wakes up it is all the more harder for them to track you down. [ light laughter ]
then you have the peace of mind of enjoying your candy. although, in fairness to trump, babies do have much bigger hands than he does. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] but apparently -- apparently trump didn't actually think he would have to live up to his promises. in an incredible moment of honesty, he admitted that the only reason he intervened to cut a deal with carrier was that he saw someone on tv who for whatever reason believed what trump had said during the campaign. >> i'll never forget, about a week ago ways watching the "nightly news." they were doing a story on carrier. they had a gentleman worker, great guy, handsome guy, he was on. and it was like he didn't even know they were leaving. he said, something to the effect, no, we're not leaving because donald trump promised us that we're not leaving. and i never thought i made that promise. and then they played my statement.
and i said, carrier will never leave. but that was a euphenism. >> seth: a euphenism. i'm not sure that's how you promounce that. [ laughter and applause ] also, what you said was not a euphemism. if you say, i got to second base, that's a euphemism. i'm not going to let an air conditioning company move to mexico is just a sentence. [ laughter and applause ] how did your date go last night? let's just say, i didn't let an air conditioning company move to mexico. [ light laughter ] does that mean it went well? so trump and vice president-elect mike pence, the governor of indiana, intervened to cut a deal with carrying pairing company, united technologies, that they claim would keep roughly 1,000 jobs in the u.s. at a victory speech at carrier plant trump went so far as to claim that actually the number's over 1100 people and
bragged on twitter quote they will sell many air conditioners. that's right. because of donald trump's heroic intervention, those indiana workers will now sell many air conditioners. there is just one problem, as the wall street journal reporter pointed out, it's a furnace factory. a furnace which of course is the [ bleep ] opposite of an air conditioner. [ laughter and applause ] nonetheless, nonetheless, if you went by some of the initial media coverage of the deal you might have thought trump saved all or even most of the jobs slated to move from indiana to mexico. but now, that the actual details of the deal started to trickle out, it seems there's less there than meets the eye. >> well the carrier the deal that donald trump negotiated last week might not be saving as many jobs as we all originally thought. a total of 800 jobs are staying. 700 factory jobs and then an additional 70 salaried positions. now, the union says some of those saved jobs doubted by mr. trump, carrier ceo actually
included hundreds of research and development jobs that were never slated to leave to begin with. >> so in all, 1250 factory jobs moving to mexico versus 730 being saved in indiana. >> seth: so there's still outsourcing 1250 jobs. sounds like a certain baby just got his candy ripped away. so, trump first claimed he would stop carrier from moving jobs to mexico then claimed he was saving over 1100 jobs then it turns out he was savng saving only 730, which the washington post reports is just 37% of the total who were due to leave the state. of course, trump is the master of making 37% seem like 100%. [ cheers and applause ] now it is very important to know that 730 jobs were saved and for those families that is a great relief that we can all be happy about. but when workers at the plant found out how many jobs were still going to mexico some felt they had been lied to and the head of the union that represents carriers employees had even harsher words to
describe trump's initial claims about the number of jobs he was saving. >> yesterday, chuck jones, the president of united steel workers local, that represents the carrier workers said that donald trump quote, lied his ass off about the number of jobs saved. >> seth: and trump does have a tendency to lie his ass off. that's why chris christie is always there to catch it. [ laughter ] and this is interesting, we found tape of other times trump lied his ass off and if you listen closely you can actually hear his ass hitting the ground. >> hillary clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. isis is honoring president obama. he is the founder of isis. he is the founder of isis. i am the least racist person you've ever met. >> seth: solid gold ass. the man has a solid gold ass. nonetheless, despite his many
flaws, there's no denying the deal was politically popular but for republicans what's so surprising about the new policy of strong arming companies into making business decisions is that gop has spent eight years calling obama a socialist for his economic policies. remember how they reacted to the auto bailout which saved as many as 1.5 million jobs. >> who better to take charge of an industry in trouble than your federal government. the administration is on a mission to hijack capitalism in favor of collectivism. >> now you're in the position where the government somehow has to coerce or force us all into buying the small cars than it insists detroit puts out. >> general motors is caving. general motors have bent over and grabbed ankles. chrysler bent over and grabbed the ankles. what are we suppose to do here? >> seth: bend over and grab the ankles? save that kind of talk for the access hollywood buzz. so they accused him of coercion and hijacking capitalism. well, as you might have guessed, they see the carrier deal a little differently. >> he strong-armed him. what's wrong with that?
>> a free market guy? he negotiated it. he is going at it. he won this one. he won a thousand jobs to stay in indiana. i have no objection to that whatsoever. >> next air conditioner i buy, i promise, because i'm glad we are making them here, is going to be a carrier. >> so what is your reaction when you heard carrier was going to keep a thousand jobs in the united states? after talking to trump, what was your reaction? i mean, standing up and cheering, right? you say, my gosh this is really happening. i mean, this is just flat out cool. >> seth: nothing says less cool than when rush limbaugh says flat out cool. [ laughter ] sounds like your step dad trying to show you the new barbecue grill. check it out son, a separate rack for poultry. it's flat out cool. this has been a closer look. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with taraji p. henson, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. please, give it up for the 8g band sitting right over there. also, he's been with us all week long. yet another fantastic guest drummer, his band deftones has an incredible album "gore" that's out now. abe cunningham, everybody. give it up for abe. [ cheers and applause ] >> hello. >> seth: our first guest tonight is an academy award nominated
actress, who you know as cookie lyon in the hit "empire." the mid season finale airs wednesday night on fox. she also stars as a nasa mathematician in the upcoming film "hidden figures." which opens in select cities christmas day, and nationwide january 6th. let's take a look. >> mr. johnson, if i were you, i would quit talking right now. >> i didn't mean no disrespect. >> i will have you know i was the first negro female student at a west virginia university graduate school. on any given day i analyze the manometer level for air displacement, friction and velocity. and compute over 10,000 calculations by hand. so yes, they let women do some things at nasa, mr. johnson. and it's not because we wear skirts. it's because we wear glasses. >> seth: please welcome back to the show, our friend, taraji p. henson, everybody. [ cheers and applause ]
♪ ♪ >> seth: welcome back. >> always fun to see you. >> seth: always fun to you see you. congratulations on this film. this based on a true story -- >> yes. >> seth: of three women in the '60s who work for nasa. yes? >> yes. >> seth: and was it -- tell us a little bit about who you play. >> i play katherine johnson who is still very much alive. she's 98 years old. and it was her calculations that was able to get john glenn orbiting the earth. >> seth: and who tragically passed away today, john glenn. the great john glenn. >> rest in peace. yes he did. >> seth: rest in peace, john glenn. >> yes he did. >> seth: an incredible life. >> yes. [ applause ] >> seth: i should say there was nothing tragic to his passing. >> an amazing man. not at all. >> seth: the man had a life fuller than any of us should be lucky enough to live. >> yes. >> seth: you actually, were an electrical engineer major in college for a brief period of time. >> yeah. [ light laughter ] it was an accident. >> seth: it was an accident? >> it was a fluke. >> seth: how does that happen? >> so what happened was, i didn't get accepted to my high
school of choice and there was a high school for performing arts. >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> so i thought that meant i couldn't act. >> seth: okay. >> why i chose electrical engineering, i don't know. [ light laughter ] but i did. and you know, i failed. [ light laughter ] all of the math. >> seth: yeah, all the math. the math is key. >> pre-calculus. pre-cal. that prepares you for all the math you were going to take. and i couldn't pass that. >> seth: yeah. i would say very few mathematicians careers start because they got kicked out of acting school. [ light laughter ] like i was going to be an actor. but i wanna say i'm impressed because you, as with movies with math, you do a lot of chalkboard equations in this film. >> yes. >> seth: and i was assuming they just used a hand model for that, because it is some pretty intense stuff. you learned it. >> yeah. i was assuming that, too. [ laughter ] and i got to set and ted was like, we're gonna use your hand. and i was like, my hand? can i just like be -- how are you going to do this? you got to learn it. i literally passed out.
i think i peed my pants. i can't remember. [ light laughter ] but math makes me that nervous. and you know what, it is so unfortunate. i think it's because when i was told -- when i was a little girl, i was told, oh, don't worry about math and science, it's for boys. >> seth: yeah. >> and i think that's why this movie is so important. because if i knew that dream belonged to me, i may have been a rocket scientist. but i think acting was -- >> seth: it worked out. we're very lucky to have you on the acting side. that's what makes it even more incredible. >> yes. >> seth: to think that katherine johnson, in her era, was this incredible mathematician. you mentioned she is still very much alive. you actually got to meet her, yeah? >> i did. >> seth: how was that? >> it was -- it was -- i don't get star struck often. you know, i am an actress and i have gotten star struck. don't get me wrong. but have you to be a great icon. >> seth: i felt it a little bit when we first met. >> yeah. >> seth: was there a little? [ light laughter ] >> there was. i was nervous. >> seth: okay, just a little -- >> i cried. >> seth: i saw your eyes get a little struck. >> i was like, oh, my god. i am never washing these hands again. [ light laughter ] no.
but it's something when you meet someone who is so important in history. like, she changed the face of america's history. >> seth: yeah. >> like she didn't -- she was the only mind to figure out those numbers. there wasn't a group of people. ibm was just implemented into the nasa program. glenn didn't even trust the ibm machine's computations. he wanted katherine to check those numbers before he even got in the capsule. so you talk about a living hero. there was a different feeling when you meet someone whose consciousness is above everyone else. >> seth: yeah. >> not in a diva way, or i know more than you. just because consciously, she's smarter than us all. >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] yeah. >> you can't compare that to anything. and she didn't see herself as a hero. she just was like, i just love doing my job. >> seth: i think it speaks to how good you are at your job, that you can play someone who's completely selfless like that and you can also play
cookie lyon, who's the opposite. [ applause ] i think cookie, cookie uses "i." >> yeah. cookie is i, i, i. no, cookie's family first. >> seth: that's true, family first. is it true that because you have to, you know, obviously do a whole season of "empire", you transition to doing a film like this, is it true, a little cookie snuck in sometimes on set? >> yeah, because i didn't have really any time to digress. >> seth: right. >> and i literally wrapped on "empire" and i had like two or three weeks before i transitioned into playing this character who is polar opposite of cookie. >> seth: yeah. >> so, in that clip he showed you, you know, women in the '60s is different. you had to stay in your place. >> seth: yeah. >> you know, and you couldn't, especially a black woman. you couldn't get all sassy. might be strange fruit hanging from the tree. i mean, we laugh but it's real. so, you know, all of this had to go away. and so in -- 'cause she's reading him, but she's reading him 1960 style. >> seth: right.
>> and so i kept doing this and ted was like, "no, any subtle movement makes her a modern woman." you can't do that. and i kept feeling cookie's -- [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: down, cookie, down! >> down, cookie! >> seth: well, you are -- you're a fantastic actress. you're one of my favorites. >> thank you. >> seth: we're actually going to stick around and do our acting challenge. which i'm very excited about. >> yes. >> seth: we'll be right back with more from taraji p. henson. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ in a world that needs a hero, justice is spelled b-o-x. say hello to a powerful tool that gives you options to fit your budget. ♪ oh, i'm tied to this chair! ♪ dun-dun-daaaa! i don't know that an insurance-themed comic book is what we're looking for. did i mention he can save people nearly $600? you haven't even heard my catchphrase. i'm all done with this guy. box him up. that's terrible. (vo) it's that time of year again.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to the show. meryl streep, daniel day-lewis, diane keaton, all great actors. but, how can you tell which one of them is the best? we here at "late night" have produced the actathalon, a multi-stage, theatrical obstacle course designed to measure and test an actor's commitment to the craft of acting. competing tonight, will be hollywood thespian taraji p. henson, everybody. [ cheers and applause ]
here we go. now we all know taraji is an excellent actress but tonight we find out just how excellent. taraji, what have you done to prepare for this challenge? >> i watched kevin spacey's episode of "inside the actor's studio." >> seth: all of it? >> no, just the first part. >> seth: okay. let's show the folks at home the feats of acting expertise you will have to display this evening. first taraji, you'll come up against "the devil's desk." here you'll have to angrily say a line of dialogue into a phone and then swipe the contents off the desk. >> that's great. >> seth: next is "the mirror of introspection" where your character will have to stare and her reflection and wonder who the hell she's become. >> i do that every morning. >> seth: if successful, you move on to "the slide of tears." where you will take a phone call, hear some devastating news, and slide down the wall, crying. [ light laughter ] then it's off to "the control room of carnage." where you'll enter the military command center and direct a special ops mission to take out a target. >> oh, god. >> seth: then you move on to "the toss." where you'll throw a memento from your deceased lover into the ocean to signify you are ready to move on with your life. >> oh god. >> seth: you'll then come to the "fellini crusher" where you'll show your range while performing a scene in the distinct dramatic style of the italian auteur.
next, you'll walk the red carpet, explain what you're wearing in "the red carpet rundown." and finally, you'll go to the top of "acting mountain" where you will try not to let go of your scene partner as he dangles from a cliff. [ light laughter ] taraji, are you ready? >> yes! wait, i just have to get into character. you can't handle the truth! [ cheers and applause ] okay, i'm ready. >> seth: in that case. go! here we go. taraji quickly to "the devil's desk." >> hello? what do you mean your airbnb doesn't allow cats? ah! [ cheers ] >> seth: fantastic. and it's on to "the mirror of introspection." >> ding-ding? [ ding ] yes! look at you. you call yourself an office max sales associate? you don't even know where the hp 5-something-4 inkjet printer cartridges are. [ light laughter ]
you're pathetic! you're pathetic! [ ding ] >> seth: yeah. you got the ding. moving on. [ cheers ] to "the slide of tears." >> i don't understand. what do you mean white castle doesn't deliver? [ cheers and applause ] [ ding ] >> seth: moving on, taraji. get into "the mission control room." >> i have to get serious. okay. do we have eyes on the target? >> the target is currently delivering its best man speech. >> status update? >> he's drunk and rambling. everyone feels uncomfortable. >> do we have a clean shot? >> negative. the groom is trying to get him to sit down and shut the hell up. >> dear god, the target is talking about the groom's ex. >> we have to take the shot. >> he's getting into weird sex stuff. >> take the shot! [ gunshot ] >> target has been eliminated. >> sayonara you son of a bitch! [ cheers and applause ] [ ding ] >> seth: up the stairs to the top, taraji. [ cheers and applause ]
>> hair blowing. when you died, david, you left me half a meat ball sub in the fridge. but i can't finish it. good-bye. oh, boy, those birds are really going to town on that sub. hey, you fat bird, give the skinny bird a chance! [ ding ] >> seth: great job, taraji. moving on to "agent of chaos." [ cheers and applause ] >> all right. ♪ [ speaking italian ] >> i don't speak italian. [ laughter ] [ speaking italian ] >> i told you, man, i don't speak italian.
[ speaking italian ] >> oh, shut the [ bleep ] up. [ laughter ] [ ding ] [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] >> taraji! tarji, over here. who are you wearing? >> this is designed by glad. >> beautiful. [ light laughter ] beautiful. >> yeah. it's a force flex, odor shield trash bag. it's a four gallon model. [ light laughter ] >> how are you feeling tonight? how are you feeling? >> well, i'm really hot and i might pass out soon. [ ding ] >> yes! [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: go to the top of acting mountain, taraji. >> i'm coming! i'm gonna save you!
[ cheers and applause ] i won't let you down. >> seth: taraji! don't let go! >> seth! you're too heavy. have you gained weight? >> seth: yeah, i guess i packed on about 25 pounds of muscle since my baby was born. >> wait, are you sure that's muscle? >> seth: can you believe someone threw away this meatball sandwich? [ laughter and applause ] it's really good. >> oh, seth, give me your other hand. >> seth: i can't decide, between life or sandwich. i choose sandwich! >> nooooooo! [ ding ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: that was excellent. let's go to our judges table for your final score. [ cheers and applause ] our judges, as everyone knows, are three professional
johnny depp impersonators. judges? that's a perfect score! [ cheers and applause ] taraji p.6henson, you are the world's most perfect actor. >> oh, perfect. perfect! >> seth: now, go to the podium and give your acceptance speech. >> wow. where do i start? so many people -- ♪ >> seth: well, that music means we're out of time. >> no, wait a minute. honey, i waited 20 minutes for this! >> seth: taraji p. henson, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] "hidden figures" opens in select theaters christmas day, and nationwide january 6th. we'll be right back with lola kirke. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ok, let me explain. this is your tax return. ok. now, there are many right ways to fill out this tax return. and the irs will accept them all. one of them gets you the most money back.
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>> seth: yeah maybe they got that in your head. >> i'm flattered now. >> seth: there you go. so congratulations on the show. third season. >> thank you. >> seth: this is about classical musicians. and you shoot much of the third season or parts of it in venice, italy. >> yes. >> seth: a beautiful city but i've been there and it's very hard to get around because it is just canals. >> yeah and selfie sticks everywhere. >> seth: yeah, it is a selfie stick community. you're right. they sell -- people just sell selfie sticks on the street. >> yeah, people eat them there, too. >> seth: they eat them? >> it's weird it's a new cuisine. >> seth: well, anything italian is fine. they know how to make everything work. >> totally. >> seth: but it must be a nightmare to shoot there. >> yes. it is like a beautiful nightmare. >> seth: okay. >> yeah, like so you travel everywhere by very small boat. which is cool. and then every morning you rise to the sound of like an opera singer, but it is actually a man on a gondola passing by your open window. >> seth: beautiful. >> it is beautiful but it's not very good. >> seth: oh okay. so it looks beautiful but it doesn't sound beautiful. >> yes. >> seth: i guess the best opera singers aren't on boats? >> no. that's like the ones that didn't
make it. >> seth: right, exactly. [ light laughter ] they go to the opera and they audition and they say we would love to show you to your boat. >> yeah totally. [ light laughter ] >> seth: you play -- your character plays the oboe on the show. >> yes. >> seth: now, did you learn to play the oboe? >> no. >> seth: did you have an intention to play? >> no. >> seth: you never were going to learn? >> no, well, when i googled the oboe right before the audition. >> seth: so you did that? >> i googled it. >> seth: don't ever say you didn't prepare. >> i know. i'm a method actor. >> seth: yeah, exactly. >> no, i googled the oboe. and i was like this looks crazy. and then everyone i spoke to was like that's the craziest instrument ever. i mean, like, you have to start playing the oboe at age five in order to be anywhere near good. >> seth: oh, so it's a level of difficulty to even play the oboe badly. >> yeah. well yeah. >> seth: okay. >> thank you. >> seth: you're welcome. >> and yeah. so i do not ever plan on playing the oboe. >> seth: gotcha. but you obviously have to look like you know how to play the oboe. so what did you learn about how people look when they play the oboe? >> well, if you've ever passed a
kidney stone. >> seth: oh, really? >> just remember what that face was like and then you do it. >> seth: so it's not, this is not a sexy instrument. >> not it's not the cello which i'm so upset about. >> seth: yeah the cello is mad sexy. >> it's so sexy. you put something between your legs and like look sensuous. >> seth: it's perfect. i will say if you're on the subway, it's sexier to see a girl come in with an oboe than like a giant cello case. >> but that would mean that she's just really strong. she is always carrying her cello. >> seth: yeah, that's true. >> an oboe, you wouldn't even know what it was. >> seth: and do you feel like -- have you talked to oboists? am i saying that right? >> yes. that's how you say that. >> seth: and would oboists -- have they said -- have they given you feedback and say you're nailing the face? >> they actually have. that's like a point of pride for me. oboists believe me and ask me if i play. >> seth: that's great. that's all can you ask for. cause then you can say, no, sucker, i did not start when i was five. you wasted your life. [ light laughter ] >> yes, that is what i say every time. >> seth: but you did not meet with musicians ahead of time, which i assume many people who
would be cast would have asked to meet classical musicians. >> well, i did ask. i was on the subway -- >> seth: oh, wait. so, this is already not what i meant. >> yeah, no. i was doing incognito research. >> seth: okay gotcha. >> and there were a couple of young men and women that they had musical instrument cases. and i said i'm going to be on a tv show about classical musicians. do you want to hang out with me? and they never -- they said no. one of them did give me an e-mail and i did like write like a really nerdy, like, "best, lola" e-mail. >> seth: a very earnest actor's email. >> yes, exactly, and they never responded. >> seth: okay gotcha. >> suckers. >> seth: well, there you go. but i guess just in general, like if someone approached you on the subway and said, hey, you're an actress, right? i'm actually going to play an actress in a movie, can we hang out? what would you say? >> that's a really meta question. >> seth: yeah i know. we've gone through the looking glass. >> i mean, i don't know. i'd give them a high-five and say maybe. >> seth: okay, gotcha. that doesn't seem binding.
and then, what is -- because this is about sort of the classical music world and you do present that as different than what i think people would imagine which is it is very stiff world and it is not that. what has surprised you the most about what you've learned about this world? >> well i think that there's like -- first of all, that classical music is still very much alive and well. i mean it's not publicly-funded so i think it is a battle like a lot of arts these days. it's a struggle to be an artist in the modern world. but beyond that, that classical musicians are like fun. they are fun. >> seth: yeah. i believe it. >> and that there is -- like mozart are just like the original rock star. anyone who has seen "amadeus" can attest to that. >> seth: there you go and you did you a production of "amadeus" when you were very young. >> i did, yes. >> seth: like a stage. >> yes, i was 11. i played a very sexy constanze, who is mozart's wife. it was a precocious arts camp. >> seth: it seems like a weird -- oh so a camp production of "amadeus." >> yeah. >> seth: that seems like a pretty heavy thing for campers
to be working on. >> yeah, it was a weird camp. >> seth: was "godspell" taken that year? >> it was, yeah. no we also did like "woyzeck," which is like an obscure german play. and i was once again like a slutty like wife and i was 12 that year. so it was cool. >> seth: see there you go. you've lived an interesting life. you didn't have to learn to play the oboe. thank you so much for being here and congratulations. >> oh, thank you. >> seth: lola kirke, everybody. third season of "mozart in the jungle" will be available tomorrow on amazon. we'll be right back with bret baier. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ not to be focusingo finaon my moderatepe. to severe chronic plaque psoriasis. so i made a decision to talk to my dermatologist about humira. humira works inside my body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to my symptoms. in clinical trials, most adults taking humira were clear or almost clear, and many saw 75% and even 90% clearance in just 4 months.
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♪ >> seth: so i'm so happy to have you here. >> good to be here. >> seth: and i definitely want to get your take on politics and everything that's going on because you've had a lot of access with all of the candidates. you've gotten to interview them all over the course of this, but you also got to interview the dalai lama. >> i did. >> seth: and this was just fantastic when i saw this. i'm so happy you're here that i can ask about it. because you asked many substantial questions but then you closed with one that i think we all wanted to ask him and i would like to show that real quick and then ask you about it. >> have you ever seen the movie "caddy shack?" >> what? >> "caddy shack" the movie. >> i don't know. >> you don't know the movie? >> i don't know. >> the part about the dalai lama. there is a classic movie called "caddy shack" where they talk about the dalai lama -- >> i see. >> and i had to ask you about it. he had no clue. >> seth: no clue. >> none. you know i played golf in college so i came to this moment at the end of the interview. and i thought, should i do it?
should i go there? and there was no recognition whatsoever and i kept on going, which is painful. >> seth: yeah. >> then i finally said, so you're not a big hitter? the lama. and from carl the greens keeper from "caddy shack" and he said, i hit badminton. >> seth: there you go. >> and then i just cut it off. >> seth: it was great watching you push as if you expected him to say oh, "caddy shack." i thought you said cat tee shack with tees. >> he said 1 or 2? >> seth: yeah of course. cinderella story. cinderella story. yeah. so obviously you have covered this election very closely. you covered it closely i should say it's over. i don't know if you heard. i have to ask when was the moment, did you have a moment when you realized this was a unique election unlike any we'd ever seen before. >> so the first debate in cleveland was huge. >> seth: yeah. >> huge to use a word. and it was a big moment. but the third debate was the moment that i think was a little bit surreal.
we had, it was myself and chris wallace, megyn kelly. >> seth: this is a primary gop primary debate. >> gop primary debate in detroit and i asked a question about civility. we talked about marco rubio and what he was saying on the trail about donald trump. donald trump said "little marco has been making fun of my hands. and look at this, my hands are big. and that's not only what's big." i turned to chris wallace and i said, okay, moving on. and i knew at that moment that we had gone from talking about politics to genitalia in the third debate that we were moderating and we had -- >> seth: we had a ways to go. >> something had changed. >> seth: something had changed. you, obviously, you're aware, that donald trump not only is in the media but he pays a lot of attention to the media. and is a bit obsessed with how the media covers him. you had a segment on your show that he was paying attention to and actually was giving you feedback on reaching out. >> so we had a segment called "candid casino." because i wanted to pull our panelists down to really find
out who they thought of the 17 gop candidates and the democratic candidates were really going to get the nomination. so i gave them $100 in chips and they all had to bet throughout every show every friday. so in between there i interviewed donald trump numerous times. and one time after the segment had been going for a while, i interviewed him, before we started the interview he said, can you please tell me why charles krauthammer is only giving me $25 in chips? and then later he said, you know, steve hayes is a loser because he is only giving me $10 in chips. at the end when he got the nomination i saw him later and he said, i got all the black chips. >> seth: there you go. he's gonna be so disappointed when he finds out it's not real money. so, you know, you have to cover him and one of the things that's typical in the media right now is the difference between things he's doing that will define policy and actually affect people's lives and when he
tweets, which obviously, you know, it's juicy when he tweets. and it's fun to cover and it's fun to talk about. do you think that's a distraction of his own planning? do you think that's an incidental distraction? and how with someone who covers the news, how do you do it? how do you approach it? >> first of all, it's a challenge. everything that he says now is news. because he is now the president-elect. he will be the president january 20th. and, you know, i think he does effectively take the media on a ride sometimes to say, look at the shiny thing over here in 140 characters or less. but you're right. one of the challenges is to cover policy. we have this segment called "the hundred days" and we have a 15-part series that's starting about what policy things are going to try to tick down with congress and with the administration. and you have to balance. because you can't fall only for the twitter feed of donald trump. you have to balance it out to give substance, i think. >> seth: yeah. >> and let, you know, viewers
and voters decide what they think about these policies. >> seth: well i wish you the best of luck with that challenge. i also, this is very exciting, you have a book coming out. that's a challenge for all of us. i wish us all the best of luck. you have a book coming out, this is incredibly well timed, about the transition of power from eisenhower to jfk. >> yeah. >> seth: and how -- what happened in that transition that you feel is similar to the transition that's happening right now between obama and trump? because it does seem at least from the surface that it is civil in a relationship between two people that it has not always been civil. >> right. the book is called "three days in january. dwight eisenhower's final mission." and it is about the farewell speech he delivers three days before jfk's inauguration speech. he was committed, eisenhower was, to a smooth transition. he really set up the process. his transition from truman to eisenhower was icy. they did not have a good relationship. and he wanted to change that. he was a lot in some ways like trump in that he went outside politics in that he had a cabinet that was a lot of businessmen. back then they called them eight
millionaires and a plumber. so they went to different people. however he did not want to put any military people inside. being a retired general, he didn't want to have that sense that it was a military regime. donald trump feels differently. he has a lot of generals that he is looking at and has put in. so in that way, it's interesting to look at. it was a dangerous time. and i think we could look, as a country, back to eisenhower and learn a lot, which is why i wrote the book. >> seth: well excellent. i look forward to that. again it's an interesting time and we're lucky to have you doing the news. thank you so much for being here bret. bret baier everybody. "a special report with bret baier" airs weekdays at 6:00 pm on fox news. we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ♪