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most populous city now justover 1 million people a. lot of people moving to san francisco as well. the population in the city rose also by nearly 10,000 people. they called the white house home for eight years, what better way to say good-bye than a slum better party. michele obama said the night before inauguration the girls invited their friends over to spend the night, ate pizza, nuggets and stayed up late. they basically did what every girl does. slum better party, but with secret service. >> and with pizza. good night. we'll see you back here tomorrow. >> bye-bye. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> steve: from studio 6b in rockefeller center in the heart of new york city, it's "the tonight show starring jimmy fallon." tonight, join jimmy and his guests -- goldie hawn. nikoolaj coster-waldau. brian reed. and musical guest
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mary j. blige, and featuring the legendary roots crew. >> questlove: 665. yeah. >> steve: and now, here he is, jimmy fallon! ♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: come on. i love it so much. hello, hi. how you doing? how you doing? looking good. i'm good, how are you? ♪ [ cheers and applause ] hi, everybody, welcome. welcome! [ cheers and applause ] thank you so much. i'm feeling good. welcome everybody, welcome to "the tonight show." this is it, baby, you made it. you're here. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] here's what people are talk about, you guys. i'm told that president trump just did an interview where he
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wondered why the civil war ever happened. [ light laughter ] then education secretary betsy devos said, "that's easy, captain america and iron man got in a big fight." [ laughter ] that's not. stop it -- both of you, stop it. not only that, trump also said that andrew jackson was really angry about the civil war, but andrew jackson actually died 16 years before it started. [ laughter ] some said he'll apologize to jackson when they play golf together next week. [ applause ] so that he'll -- he'll take care of it. don't worry about it. actually i saw that trump defended all his trips that he's made to his golf courses, saying that he only goes there to hold meetings. even guys who go to hooters for the wings were like, "yeah, right." [ light laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] best wings, man! spicy! trump's keeping busy, in fact i read that he invited the leader of thailand to visit the white house. but trump thinks thailand is just a clothing chain that sells really long ties. [ laughter ]
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do you have anything in red that goes down to my toes? thank you very much. [ laughter ] actually -- actually i think -- i think. here's -- i think trump ties his tie normal and he looks in the mirror and he goes, "that looks great." then he goes, "now let's go to work -- [ unintelligable ] [ laughter ] it's a posture thing. it's a posture thing if anything. i read that trump is actually giving tours of the white house. yeah, of course a lot of his visitors have questions on their tours so trump tries his best to answer them. for example when someone asks "who planted the roses in the rose garden? trump says, "chris harrison from the bachelor." >> steve: wow. >> jimmy: he's trying to guess -- >> steve: yeah. >> jimmy: when somebody asks, what happens in the treaty room, trump says, well when i'm good all day i go there and i get a a treaty. [ laughter ] today i had a fruit by the foot. >> steve: really? >> jimmy: he goes -- that's not why they call it the treaty room. >> steve: that's not why they call it -- [ barking ] >> jimmy: donald, stop barking. finally when visitors ask what kind of dishes you use for state dinners, trump says only the finest china. there you go. china. china. >> steve: china.
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>> jimmy: we're learning more about how trump's been holding up in the white house. in fact a senior official says that when you go in to meet with trump you don't need to make a power point, or bring a a bunch of paperwork, but a a sock puppet can't hurt. i mean he loves -- he's a a sucker for it. [ laughter ] pretty well known that trump doesn't trust the media. he actually had a pretty awkward interview with cbs just this weekend, and it turns out the only person he'll allow himself to be interviewed by is himself. it's true, take a look at this, latest -- >> congratulations, donald, well done. >> thank you. >> you're a great competitor and very strong and very smart. >> thank you. >> jimmy: there you go. isn't that great? [ cheers and applause ] right? you've very good. you're very powerful. you're very sexy. [ laughter ] oh this is a goody. i read that a hacker leaked the first ten episodes of "orange is the new black." americans are likec "okay, you can mess with our elections, but now you've gone too far." don't mess with "orange is the new black." [ cheers and applause ]
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and finally everyone is talking about this fyre, is that how you pronounce it? fyre? >> steve: yeah. >> jimmy: f-y- fyre music festival? >> questlove: yeah. >> jimmy: did you hear about this music festival in the bahamas, it was a disaster. that was a big disaster. the bands didn't show up, nothing was ready. now the organizers are being sued for $100 million. [ audience ohs ] when asked how they're going to raise the money they said, "how about a music festival?" anyways, no. we have a great show tonight, give it up for the roots, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> jimmy: i like that. is that the george benson version? >> questlove: on broadway, yeah. >> jimmy: yeah, yeah, yeah. were you surprised that the crowd were -- that they didn't soul clap? >> questlove: they didn't soul clap this time. >> jimmy: but you thought -- did you think they were going to. >> questlove: i thought they
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were going to. >> jimmy: me too. cause usually our audience goes -- if you -- play it, play it again. ♪ [ clapping ] it's a lot of work. that's it. that's what i'm talking about. yeah, that's good right there. it is a soul clap. push it up baby. push it up. >> questlove: soul clap. >> jimmy: that's the thing that i love. they always keep my guessing. they always push it up. the audience. yeah, you guy can do whatever you want. i'm happy. i'm happy. guys, chris rock will be on the show tomorrow. >> steve: come on. >> jimmy: so be sure to tune in. [ cheers and applause ] he's my favorite dude. i love it when that guy, he's the funniest guy. but, tonight we have an unbelievable show. she is an icon. oh, i just met her backstage. i'm freaking out. she stars alongside amy schumer in the new film "snatched," goldie hawn is here. goldie hawn is here. [ cheers and applause ] plus, from the new netflix movie "small crimes" nikolaj coster-waldau is right here. [ cheers and applause ] also joining us tonight, he's
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the host of the record setting podcast, "s-town." i'm not going to give any spoilers on it. >> steve: no spoilers. >> jimmy: nothing, i'm barely going to talk about it, but i can't wait to talk to him. brian reed is stopping by. >> steve: yeah! [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: have you -- have you listened to it yet? >> steve: yes, i've listened to the entire thing. i'm not going to tell you anything. >> jimmy: alright -- >> except -- >> jimmy: no. don't, don't, don't. higgins i -- higgins. questlove are you -- no. no. >> questlove: not yet. >> jimmy: you haven't -- haven't listened to it yet. >> questlove: i know about it, yeah. >> jimmy: but i'm obsessed with this -- i'm obsessed with s-town. i've only done two episodes so far. but anyways, that's all you need. it's unbelievable. so get -- whatever you listen to your -- what do you listen to it on? >> steve: on my iphone. >> jimmy: do you have an app? >> steve: yeah, i have an app called podcast. [ laughter ] press a button. >> jimmy: is there an app called podcast? >> steve: yeah. >> jimmy: i don't use that. >> steve: what do you use? >> jimmy: it's called overcast or something. >> steve: overcast? >> jimmy: yeah, it's a weather app. >> steve: cloudy with a chance of meat balls. >> jimmy: it tells you the weather, yeah. exactly, yeah. oh, my gosh, so i can't believe -- saving the best for last.
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are you kidding me? we have music from mary j. blige is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] oh, my god! >> steve: wow. >> jimmy: i love mary j. blige. guys, it is time for "tonight show" kid letters, here we go. ♪ tonight show kid letters kid letters tonight show ♪ ♪ ♪ >> jimmy: we get letters from kids all over the world. they send us ideas, jokes, suggestions for the show. they're always great. so i wanted to share some with you right now. these are real letters from real kids. we did not make this up. first letter comes from autumn. she's 7 years old. she said, "dear jimmy, my family and i love your shows. you look like pee-wee." [ laughter ] >> steve: aw, so sweet. >> jimmy: but not your hair, and my mommy wants to marry you, i think. i am weird just like you. [ laughter ] that's me, right there. that's a good drawing. [ laughter ] >> steve: i know you are, but what am i?
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>> jimmy: this one is from harry. he's age 7. "to jimmy fallon, my name is harry, and i'm from england, and no, not harry potter, but i can do some magic. i know about your show because my sister is a fal pal. you are really funny. let's cut to the chase. [ laughter ] i got no american friends. will you be my baf, best american friend? p.s., i'm 7. also rawr." >> steve: yeah. >> jimmy: harry, i will be your best friend. >> steve: yeah. >> jimmy: right now. [ cheers and applause ] thanks, buddy. >> steve: rawr. >> jimmy: rawr. oh, this is great. this one's from eisley and maggie, ages 4 and 5. already i -- i'm such a mush now. i'm a dad. awe cute. >> steve: going to start crying. >> jimmy: but listen to -- listen to what they wrote. good evening, jimmy poo. eisley and maggie here. we are 4 and 5.
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what is your favorite shape? we like a triangle because it has three sides, and if you put legs on it, and eyes, and mouth, and nose it is funny, and arms. here's a drawing of you as a a triangle. look at this. look at this. [ laughter ] that's us hanging out. >> steve: yeah. that's maggie and eisley. it's an isosceles. >> jimmy: thank you eisley poo and maggie poo. this next one is from grayson, he's 7 years old. he wrote us a joke. >> steve: oh good. >> jimmy: sent in a joke, let's see what it is. "dear jimmy, it's raining cats and dogs in ohio, do you know how i know? i stepped in a poodle." [ cheers and applause ] there you go. grayson, i like it. we should hire that kid. grayson from ohio. this next one's from maddie, she's 9 years old. "dear jimmy, hi i am maddie, i'm 9. i love your show. i want you to do something. my brother is really mean to me, when you read this letter say "james, stop being a butt to maddie for me, thanks, bye now." p.s. your thank you notes are
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funny. [ light laughter ] james, if you're watching, james, can we zoom in? stop being a butt to maddie! [ cheers and applause ] >> steve: jiminy cricket. >> jimmy: grow up! she could have made the whole thing up. i don't know. okay, this is a long one. it's from kelly. she's 10 years old. she said, "hey, i love your show. i love your tv show, you're awesome. i like you, and that guy who stands by the microphone." [ light laughter ] >> steve: aw. >> jimmy: "you two make me laugh. you should give the guy who stands at the microphone a a seat. his legs must get tired." [ laughter ] >> steve: yeah. >> jimmy: "anyway. anyway, i'm in fifth grade, and i like manatees, llamas, and elephants. i really like pusheen -- pusheen the cat. i drew you a picture of you as pusheen on the back. i hope your show goes well. i'm 10 years old. what do you like? have a good day. sincerely kelly." [ laughter ]
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let's look at that drawing of me as pusheen the cat. i don't know -- i don't know that cat. [ cheers and applause ] is that a famous cat? i don't know that cat. it looks cool whatever it is. well, to answer your question at the end, what do i like? pizza, and yeah. you bring up a good point. we should give higgins a chair. can we get a chair for higgens steve? steve? >> steve: oh my gosh. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: take a seat. enjoy yourself. perfect. that's fantastic. >> steve: love it. >> jimmy: it's great? >> steve: fantastic. i had a cramp earlier, now -- >> jimmy: you let me know if i need anything, buddy. >> steve: can i get some water? >> jimmy: no. we're down to our last one here. this one's from leah. look at this. it says, "hey bro, can you dance? because i love to dance. can you do the nae nae? because i can." [ cheers and applause ] i don't think i can do the nae nae. want me do the nae nae? [ cheers ]
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is that the nae nae? ♪ is that the nae nae? can you do it? ♪ that's all the time we have for kid letters. [ cheers and applause ] thank you to all the kids who sent the letters in. to send letters in to be read on the show email them to stick around, we'll be right back with goldie hawn, everybody. why are you sitting there? go sit over there. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ party up
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: our first guest is an academy award and golden globe-winning actress co-starring with amy schumer in the new comedy film "snatched", which opens friday, may 12th. please welcome the very talented, the very lovely, goldie hawn! [ cheers and applause ] ♪
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>> jimmy: hey! >> that is so awesome. way to go to play that. >> jimmy: i know, of course. i mean, the roots, they put the thought into it. come on. >> they really did. >> jimmy: they really do. i'm happy to meet you. i'm so happy you're here. >> i know, me too. >> jimmy: i love you. you're one of my all-time favorites. and i know your daughter pretty well. >> i know. >> jimmy: kate hudson. >> you know her really well. >> jimmy: i do, but i never met you. but i love her. i love your whole family. >> thank you so much. >> jimmy: thank you so much for being here. i miss you in movies. >> oh, honey -- >> jimmy: i'm so happy you're back. we miss you. [ cheers and applause ] when was the last one? was it -- >> what was the last movie? >> jimmy: yeah. >> "banger sisters." >> jimmy: how long has it been? >> it's been 15 years. >> jimmy: 15 years. [ audience ohs ] >> can you believe it? i can't believe it. i really can't. it flew by. but i was doing something i cared about so much that my life just went into a whole different direction. and -- and i'm so excited about it. >> jimmy: what were you doing?
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>> i decided to create a a program -- so people that, "oh you left show business," right? well, i produced and i wrote and did all that. >> jimmy: you did everything. >> i decided to produce, basically, a script and a story for children for school. and it has given them -- [ cheers and applause ] thank you. >> jimmy: how cool. what is it? >> it's called "mind up." it's over 2 million children now in the world doing it. and it's how to regulate their emotions, how to find more happiness in the classroom, and to understand how their brains work. and i think we should teach every child, everybody how their brains work. what is the neurobiology? if we say to a child, "hey use your brain." they go, "yeah, but what's -- what is it," right? [ light laughter ] so we're doing that and it's really exciting. >> jimmy: mind up. >> mind up. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: thank you. i love that. i have so many questions for you but i really want to know -- >> we got to go fast. >> jimmy: i know, i know, i know. i know. we do. but i want to know about "laugh in." i want to know, 'cause --
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it's -- did you start as an a a comedian or an actor or dancer? >> i was a dancer. since 3-years-old i studied ballet. and then i went to jazz. and then, i got a job here in new york. and i got a job at the world's fair. and i had a real big job. it was like amazing. i was so happy. >> jimmy: what do you do at the world's fair? >> i did the can-can above the bar. [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: that is so cool! come on. [ cheers ] >> yeah, i did. i was at the texas pavilion. it was awesome. and you know, i was jumping and kicking and doing all this. and whatever. and then, i went bus and trucked. i did all kinds of theater. and then, i went down to puerto rico and i danced in a a club there for a while. and i came back. i had -- you know, have dance shoes, will travel. i was a gypsy. >> jimmy: you just -- wherever you went you were just a a dancer. >> yeah, that's what i wanted to do and that's where i wanted to go and i wanted to dance on tv. and eventually i did. but that's where i was picked out of a chorus line. an agent came up to me and he said, "gee do you have an agent?" and i said, "no, i don't." and i thought he wanted something else.
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[ light laughter ] so i literally forgot about it. you know? >> jimmy: is he hitting me? no he wants to be my agent. >> i forgot about it. but then i got a call from william-morrison. they said, "where are you?" and i went "oh, my god, you mean it was really serious?" and i drove there. and i got signed. and then i got my first television show. >> jimmy: and which was -- [ cheers ] was it the "laugh in"? >> no, it was called "good morning world." >> jimmy: really? >> yeah. >> jimmy: what was a was "good morning world" now? >> it was a three-camera show. and it was done on the desilu studio lot. and it was like great. it had -- those were the times they gave you 26 weeks. so i did that and then george schlatter came on the show. and i think billy wilder called him and said you should look at this girl for whatever reason, because she is crazy or whatever. [ light laughter ] and i ended up doing "laugh in." >> jimmy: i mean but then, you do "laugh in" and then was it immediate that you became like america's sweetheart? because we love you. you're goldie hawn. [ cheers and applause ] >> you know -- it's kind of crazy.
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but it happened fast. you know? >> jimmy: what do you remember like the first time? >> and it was -- it was like -- like -- no, i don't. but i do remember going around with my mom and people would introduce and go, "oh, it's goldie hawn" or whatever. and to my mom would say, "how do you feel about your daughter being on 'laugh in' and being a a star?" and my mom says, "well, i have another daughter, you know." [ light laughter ] so it's how i was raised. >> jimmy: that's interesting. >> you figure -- and i'll tell you, this is more on a more serious note. when people get to notice you right away and you're 22 years old -- it's a brain, you know what. i mean, you don't know what is going on. >> jimmy: right. >> and i learned that everybody sees you from their perspective. they don't see you. they see how they project on you. and it really helped me not buy into love or buy into hate or
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buy into bad reviews or even buy into good reviews. i just sort of put one foot in front of the other and did my life. >> jimmy: gosh. [ cheers and applause ] you did it well. you did it well. you did it well. you've done everything. from comedy to drama to winning awards to producing. i mean, you are one of the first actors out there to produce and make great stuff. >> thank you, sweetheart. >> jimmy: i'm so happy to have you here now. and i'm so happy you're back. "snatched." you and amy schumer. >> yep. >> jimmy: i mean, come on. >> i know. >> jimmy: this is a perfect combo. >> it was so perfect! >> jimmy: it's a perfect combo. >> i mean i can't believe it. you know, because i started feeling kind of an itch. you know, like i wanted to, like -- i thought, i wondered if i -- will i ever make people laugh again? meaning -- [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: yes. and you always do. you continue to. >> i know, i mean, but you know what i mean? >> jimmy: yeah. >> but anyway, amy came over. so i met her and i looked into it and we together made it happen. >> jimmy: well, you score -- [ cheers and applause ] you got to do one of the best
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spit takes i think i've ever seen on film. it was a great spit take. i don't want to ruin the joke -- >> okay. >> jimmy: but man, it's great. it's really good. i want to show a clip. here's goldie hawn and amy schumer. oh, i should explain what the movie is about. >> oh, yeah. >> jimmy: yeah. she decides to take her mom -- her date bails, her boyfriend breaks up with her. >> yep. >> jimmy: she has no one to go to ecuador? >> yep. >> jimmy: and so she asks you to go with her. and so it's a mom-daughter trip and it just gets crazy. >> yeah and we get snatched. >> jimmy: you get kidnapped. you get snatched. yes. hence the title, "snatched," here we go, goldie hawn and amy schumer in "snatched." take a look at this. >> put this on. >> what is this? what? >> that is a rape -- rape whistle. that's a rape whistle. >> this is a dog whistle, mom. >> oh, well -- >> are you afraid these dogs are gonna rape me? >> can i -- can i just see that? will you look at the dogs? >> all these dogs, do they look like rapists to you? >> whatever. why don't you just say, "thank you, mom"? >> thank you.
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i'm getting raped by a dog. [ dog barking ] oh, my god! it works. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: come on! goldie hawn, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] "snatched" hits theaters may 12th. we'll be right back with nikolaj coster-waldau. stick around, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ april showers
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: our next guest plays jaime lannister on "game of thrones." and -- [ cheers and applause ] and now you can see him starring in the new film "small crimes", which is streaming worldwide on netflix right now. ladies and gentlemen, please welcome nikolaj coster-waldau! [ cheers and applause ] ♪
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>> thank you. >> jimmy: you look great. >> thank you. >> jimmy: you look studly as ever, always, yes. [ cheers ] yes, always looks dapper -- always a dapper gentleman. >> always dapper. >> jimmy: very dapper. i want to say congratulations -- [ laughter ] that's what you get everywhere. >> that's new york. >> jimmy: it happens. it's new york. yeah, you got to expect it. i got to say congratulations on "game of thrones." you won so many emmys. it's the most awarded emmy award -- emmy awarded show in history. >> yeah, i know. it's crazy. >> jimmy: i mean, you beat out "frasier." >> i know. i can't believe it. i'm sure that there was a time when kelsey grammer went into the writers' room and said, "we need some dragons." [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. "we need more dragons." >> "we need more dragons." >> jimmy: yeah. is it true that your wife has never seen an episode of "game of thrones"? >> i dragged her to the premiere of the first, and since then, no. but she keeps promising that she'll sit down with a friend and watch it. [ light laughter ]
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>> jimmy: how is she getting away with this? >> it's -- it's fine. i'm not -- how can you -- you can't, like, say, "you got to watch me." >> jimmy: no, yeah. that's horrible. [ light laughter ] >> you can't do that. >> jimmy: that's what i tell my wife. i mean, i put it on -- [ light laughter ] if she doesn't watch it at night, i put it on in the morning. i go, "hey, we got to watch the show. we're having breakfast and watching this now." >> it's streaming. oh, no. >> jimmy: exactly. yeah, yeah. i want to talk about "small crimes." >> yes. >> jimmy: it's on netflix, which couldn't be a hotter thing. oh, my gosh, netflix. they just -- >> no, it's amazing. if a movie like that, it's just -- you know, suddenly, it's worldwide, 190 countries. it's a small, independent movie. it's -- we're so happy. we're lucky. >> jimmy: yeah, and tell me about it, "small crimes." >> well, it's about this guy, joe denton. he's a disgraced cop. he serves six years in prison. he kind of tried to kill the local d.a. [ light laughter ] but now -- >> jimmy: kind of. yeah, maybe. >> well, he -- yeah. >> jimmy: we'll, you'll see. yeah. >> in his world, he didn't. but now he's turned a corner, and he's gonna, you know -- you think it's a redemption story. and it is in the beginning, but, you know, it's difficult to change. >> jimmy: oh, yeah, i know.
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>> but it's -- so, it's a black comedy. >> jimmy: and it's based on a -- >> it's based on a novel, yeah, "small crimes." we had a -- we had -- it was just an amazing script, great actors. >> jimmy: i heard you were a a real diva on set. really hard, really difficult, really demanding -- >> it was very demanding. yeah, it was so embarrassing. >> jimmy: you have to tell this story. it's great. >> well, it's, like, this was a a low budget movie. so, everyone worked on scale. and we all, you know, work under the same conditions. the trailers were tiny, but we were all in this together. now, my trailer, my dressing room -- i mean, we're shooting in montreal. it was so hot. the a.c. didn't work. they send a guy over. it still didn't work. on day three, i asked production, i said, "we got to fix this." and then they call the company, and they say, "we are going to pull our business if you don't fix this." and then, they say, "okay!" so, they send out this monster of a trailer. [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: look at this thing. >> this is just -- >> jimmy: that's the normal trailer.
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[ audience ohs ] >> that is the other guy's. this is where the -- >> jimmy: this is your trailer. >> i know. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: it says "v.i.p." on the side. [ laughter ] what is -- how do you live this down? >> you can't. and, like -- listen, we have, like -- we have so many actors come through. so, we had academy award nominees. you know, robert forster comes, and he's got like a tiny room there. [ light laughter ] i have to go and apologize every morning. i'm like, "you don't -- it's not -- i didn't mean for this to happen." [ light laughter ] it was -- it was -- >> jimmy: and they're like, "yeah, right." >> yeah, exactly, at that point. >> jimmy: i just love this. >> yeah. >> jimmy: i want to show everyone a clip. here's the clip of "small crimes." >> look, phil, this is not how i want -- >> one of those young men is in intensive care. >> the one with the nunchucks? >> his father is an alderman. >> charge me. put those ass[ bleep ] on the stand and watch him come apart like wet bread, because you know exactly what this is. >> they're parked in the middle of nowhere with ninja weapons,
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businessman 1: thanks jack.... wait. we're on the 18th floor. how did you get here? jack: hard work. jack vo: you crave it, we serve it. try my new guacamole and bacon chicken sandwich. music: crave van! ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: welcome back. welcome back, everybody. so about a month ago, a podcast about a small town murder called "s-town" exploded, and people have been talking about it nonstop every since. joining us now is the reporter who created "s-town" for "this american life." say hello to brian reed, everyone. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: brian reed, everybody, come on. oh, my goodness. so, let's talk about "s-town." it comes out, 10 million
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downloads on the first four days of release. that's, that -- >> so i've heard, yes. it's crazy. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: made a little history. no big deal. did you think it was going to be -- explode like this? you can't plan this stuff? >> no. no, not at all. no, i was, like, writing it on my kitchen table and, like, going down to alabama and staying at a best western behind a waffle house. >> jimmy: yeah, yeah. >> i did not think people would hear it. >> jimmy: just hearing your voice, it's kind of odd for me, because i don't know. i didn't put a face to the voice. i'm just so into -- you have a a great voice. >> thank you very much. it's odd to be on this side of the microphone. i'm used to doing this to you. >> jimmy: oh, yeah. we could switch if you want. [ light laughter ] >> i would be happy to. i'd feel much more comfortable. >> jimmy: how long does it take to work into something like this? >> i have never done something like this before. but this took, like, three years. >> jimmy: yeah. >> yeah. >> jimmy: the work put into it. i mean, it's just so well done. >> thank you. >> jimmy: from the people that -- this is correct, the people who produced "serial" or no? >> yes. i created it with julie snyder, who's one of the co-creators of
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"serial" with sarah koenig. and then i work for "this american life." so it's a co-production of "this american life" and "serial." >> jimmy: how does this guy -- how does -- [ applause ] how does john b. -- how does john b. -- is it mclemore? >> john b. mclemore. >> jimmy: how does he contact you? how did you get in -- how did you get in touch with the guy who this is kind of about? >> he was a listener -- he's a a listener to "this american life." and one day, i was just reading -- you know, we get -- we have a listener e-mail account. people who write us after they've heard stories to say like, "oh, i love this story," or, "i hated this story," or, "your voice sounds weird," or, you know, "you said a mean thing about an animal, and i'm deeply offended, and i'm never gonna listen again." [ light laughter ] those are, like what those e-mails are. >> jimmy: yeah, exactly, yeah. sorry about that e-mail, by the way. [ laughter ] >> we can do entire -- but anyway, so it's that e-mail account. and -- so, it's mostly those. we don't usually get tips to that e-mail account, but there was one e-mail caught my eye that just said, the subject line -- john b. mclemore lives in [ bleep ]-town, alabama. and so, i was like, "well, i'll take a look at that e-mail." >> jimmy: weird, yeah. >> and he was basically saying, "i lived in this town in alabama my whole life.
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i desperately hate it here, but i've never left. you guys should come down and investigate some of the stuff that is happening." and, in particular, he mentioned a murder that he said had happened that a local guy allegedly had allegedly gotten away with and was bragging about. and so we started talking about maybe investigating that murder. >> jimmy: because it got covered up, and we don't know. >> yes. >> jimmy: well, i'm only in episode two. no spoilers for everyone, and i would never do that to you. no way. >> yeah. >> jimmy: i would never do that. but i got to say, man, this is a fascinating subject. >> thank you. >> jimmy: and this guy is a a fascinating person. you really get in there. i mean, there you're going to, like, tattoo parlors and go into back rooms. >> yeah. >> jimmy: i mean, it's -- you really hung with the -- i mean, this guy has a great voice, too. he's like -- >> yeah. well, i mean, once i start talking to john, it was just, like -- yeah, there's a murder, but also, who are you? >> jimmy: who? >> you know, and -- >> jimmy: he's so interesting. >> he's fascinating. >> jimmy: he built a maze? >> he's one of the most fascinating people -- yeah, he built a maze in his backyard that you can see on google earth. he says it's the only one in alabama. so, it is made of hedges,
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concentric circles, and there are gates inside. he designed this himself. and you turn the gates different ways, and it creates different permutations, 64 different permutations of the solution. including one solution with no exit. [ light laughter ] which conveniently -- >> jimmy: conveniently. which weirdly -- >> metaphorically convenient -- >> jimmy: it almost passes to you. >> when you're writing a story. >> jimmy: when you are in the maze with him, you're like, "uh, oh." i'm worried. >> yeah. >> jimmy: i'm scared for your life at one point. [ light laughter ] a couple points. i go -- i just -- but you got to explain to me one -- and this is, again, not a -- this is not a spoiler. at one point, are you in his basement or his workshop or something? >> um, he is an antiquarian horologist, which i'm sure you know what that is. >> jimmy: a horse? something to do with a horse? [ light laughter ] he collects horses? >> he's a, um -- >> jimmy: he makes mazes? >> yeah. >> jimmy: he's a maze maker? >> keep going. >> jimmy: it's something to do with a clocks, right? >> yeah, he's an antique clock restorer. horology -- which i didn't know this term before, again, before i knew john -- it's the study of time, anyone who studies time or time pieces. so, he is fixing, like, really
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beautiful, strange old clocks, hundreds of years old, and you know, in the middle of the woods in alabama. he's one of the best in the world. and, um, and, so, we're in his clock shop one day. um, and, yeah -- >> jimmy: did you find it weird what he did to you? i mean, no. he didn't do anything. [ laughter ] no, it's almost, like, a magic trick. sorry. it was a magic trick. what he did -- he goes -- he goes, "you got any loose change?" or something like that. >> yeah, we was like, "hey, you got any change?" i was like, "uh, yeah, sure." i thought we were investigating a murder, but whatever. he was drinking some wild turkey that day. [ light laughter ] yeah, just 2:00 on a tuesday or whatever. >> jimmy: totally normal. >> and his friend, tyler, was there sharpening a chainsaw at the same time. >> jimmy: i mean, i'm serious. this is really happening. >> and -- >> jimmy: his buddy's sharpening a chainsaw. >> yeah. >> jimmy: and you're in his workshop? >> yeah. >> jimmy: okay. it's just -- >> yeah. >> jimmy: but then, you give him a dime. >> yes, he asked if i had any change. i pulled a dime out of my pocket, which i actually have if you want to -- >> jimmy: i'd love to see it. >> i actually have it, right here. >> jimmy: let's tell the story. >> okay. >> jimmy: wait, i want to see it, though. >> but -- but, do you want to -- [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: sorry.
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let's go to the story, then i want to see it. >> story, then see it? >> jimmy: okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yeah. because it's fascinating. >> so yeah, yeah, we're -- >> jimmy: he pulls out a bucket or something. >> yeah, so he was, like, "you have any change?" i pull a dime out of my pocket. >> jimmy: yep. >> he's like, "i'm gonna gold plate a dime for you." and he starts kind of is running around the work shop like a mad scientist, basically. he gets a bucket. he pours all sorts of chemicals in it, talking about, like, chelating agents. i have no idea what he's talking about. >> jimmy: this to me goes, "i'm in a 'dateline' episode." i mean, this is, like -- [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> jimmy: you're pouring a a bucket of acid. you're going to throw it on me and burn the evidence. >> yeah. >> jimmy: you'll never -- this is how i die. that's what i would say. >> i think my mind went there a a little bit. >> jimmy: okay. >> but -- and then he hooked it up. so, he took my dime. he dropped it in his bucket of chemicals. there was like -- he had cyanide in there and other things, gold, some kind of gold. and then he hooked up a car battery, naturally. >> jimmy: how would you even figure this out at all? >> yeah. >> jimmy: or he knows -- >> ran the wires into the bucket and then amped it up and out came the dime which was gold. >> jimmy: can i see the dime? >> yeah. >> jimmy: because i have never
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heard of this. >> yeah. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: take a look at that. show it to the camera, camera one right here. look at this thing. [ audience oohs ] >> yeah. >> jimmy: i mean, that is pretty cool. [ applause ] >> that's the real one. >> jimmy: i didn't even know you could do that. >> me neither. >> jimmy: it just the guy -- >> yeah. >> jimmy: he's just fascinating. >> yeah, he's really -- >> jimmy: i mean, everything he talking about. believes in global warming, anti -- like, what are we going to do to save the earth? he's passionate, so passionate about that. >> mm-hmm. >> jimmy: and what i'm getting from it is that he just -- he is so mad that no one is doing stuff about it, like people are just kind of shrugging. >> yeah. >> jimmy: and going, "well, i guess that's happening." >> yeah. it enrages him. >> jimmy: it really does. >> yeah. >> jimmy: but it's also something -- i don't know. something sad about him too, a a little bit. like, he is very -- he's very kind of negative a lot. but it also a bit -- when he's talking about time pieces, he's talking about a a sun dial. and there was this, this, like, saying or something etched in, is that true? >> yeah, exactly, no. something else i learned from
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john i didn't know. so, sun dials often have sayings or mottos -- they're called "sun dial mottos -- etched in them in latin or english. so things, like, "tedious and brief" is one. >> jimmy: i mean, that just really -- >> just kind of mournful mottos about time. yeah. >> jimmy: tedious and brief. >> yeah. [ light laughter ] actually, and after meeting john, i started noticing them in the world. so, i was at like some mission, like, at a museum kind of in california. i found one next to a grave. there was a sun dial. and i was like, "oh, i know to look for the motto, like, because this -- because john told me." and i look and it says in latin, like -- [ speaking latin ] which i looked up later, "this is no good. i've lost a day." [ light laughter ] sitting next to a grave. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: wow. >> yeah, just uplifting things like that. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: has it changed you? >> has it changed -- >> jimmy: has it changed your life? >> absolutely, yeah, absolutely. >> jimmy: what did you take from it? what did you -- >> like you were saying about -- just, i mean, john kind of bears the weight of the world on his shoulders and both
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injustices small and large. so, you know, very local injustices in his small town of, like, a thousand or 2,000 people in alabama. you know, people feeling -- you know, people in poverty, people feeling beat down by the court system. and then climate change, like the biggest problem we're facing as a globe, and he kind of treats them all the same. and, i don't know, what i'd say i learn from him is, like, to actually feel outraged about those things and to kind of kick each other in the ass and say, let's fix some of this stuff. let's not, like -- [ cheers and applause ] yeah. >> jimmy: yeah, exactly. >> climate change, yeah. let's do it. >> jimmy: i'm so thankful you did this. again, i didn't give away any spoilers away except for the dime. >> i appreciate it. thank you. >> jimmy: and i cannot wait to go back and listen to you. you're doing such great work. >> thank you. >> jimmy: congratulations. >> thank you so much. i appreciate it. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: brian reed, everybody. check out his podcast, "s-town." mary j. blige performs after the break. stick around, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪
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you deserve it can't nothing else hurt ya thought they put my life ♪ ♪ on hold but i knew something they didn't know i know myself too much ♪ ♪ to ever fold dark clouds i'm moving past you whoa you gotta love ♪ ♪ yourself if you really wanna be with somebody else you gotta feed yourself ♪ ♪ before you feed somebody else you gotta stay open and don't be foolish ♪ ♪ cause everybody don't mean you well you gotta love yourself before you love ♪ ♪ somebody else ♪ >> thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: that's mary j. blige!
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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight, america ferrera. from "snatch," actor ike barinholtz. featuring the 8g band with josh dion. >> ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: good evening, everybody. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] so good to hear. so good to hear on a monday. in that case, let's get to the news. in a recent reuters interview, president trump reflected on his first 100 days in office saying, quote, i thought it would be easier. what made you think it was going to be easy?


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