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♪ [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- edie falco, star of "chappaquiddick" actor jason clarke, author sarah mcbride, featuring the 8g band with steve smith. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, se meyers. >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how's everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] great to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. president trump will travel to peru next week for the summit of the americas. said trump, "whoa, whoa, whoa, there's another america? [ laughter ] do they have a wall?
please don't tell me they have a wall." [ light laughter ] first lady melania trump will reportedly not travel to peru with president trump next week for the summit of the americas. reached for comment, she said, "why do you think?" [ laughter ] at a roundtable event -- [ cheers ] at a roundtable even in west virginia today, president trump tossed his prepared remarks in the air because he said they would have been boring. hey, man, what are you doing? don't you know we're dying for you to be boring just for one day. just one day! [ cheers and applause ] we would love -- i would love to come home one day and hear rachel maddow say, "well, i've got nothing. here are some cat videos." [ laughter ] cnn's chief legal analyst mocked president trump's recent staff turnover yesterday and said trump has been reduced to legalzoom to find lawyers to represent him. incidentally legalzoom is what
trump tells his driver to do on the highway. [ laughter ] "i'm the president. you can do a legalzoom. i want to make it home in time for 'hannity'." [ laughter ] [ applause ] why not? according to reports, homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen told mexican authorities that national guard troops on the border would not be armed or participate in immigration or customs duties. they also won't have uniforms or radios or military vehicles and they're just cactus. [ laughter ] according to a new interview, the rock and vin diesel refuse to act in any scenes together for the latest "fast and the furious" movie. in fact, based on what i've seen, diesel refuses to act in any scenes at all. [ laughter and applause ] made a stand. took a stand. researchers have discovered that
an extinct species of lizard had four eyes. and thanks to new technology, we actually have an artist depiction of what a four-eyed lizard might look like. [ laughter and applause ] [ light laughter ] that's my favorite thing of the week, right there. a connecticut woman crashed through the windows of a dmv this week while taking a driving test. on the plus side, she totally passed one part of the test. [ audience ohs ] guys, remember the fun we had on four-eyed lizard? [ laughter ] fashion designer marc jacobs proposed to his boyfriend last night in a chipotle. well, they're certainly about to test the "in sickness" part of their vows. [ laughter ]
that's right, marc jacobs proposed to his boyfriend in a chipotle. "we're also tying the knot," said his intestines. [ laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a fantastic show for you tonight. [ cheers and applause ] she is starring in the new drama "outside in." edie falco is back on the show. [ cheers and applause ] and we're always, always so happy to have her here. he portrays sen. ted kennedy in the fantastic new "chappaquiddick." jason clarke joins us tonight. [ cheers and applause ] and her book, "tomorrow will be different: love, loss, and the fight for trans equality", is available now. sarah mcbride is on the show tonight. [ cheers and applause ] so you're here on a good one. before we get to all of that, president trump has floated the possibility of replacing his embattled attorney general with his embattled epa administrator. meanwhile, he's breaking his silence on the stormy daniels story. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: despite trump repeatedly bending over
backwards in every possible way to kowtow to russian president vladimir putin, trump this week insisted that he has actually stood up to putin more than any previous president. >> how are you going to deal with president vladimir putin? is he as your enemy or as someone you can have dialogue with? >> well, i think we'll be able to get great dialogue, i hope. but if we can't, you'll be the first to know about it. nobody has been tougher on russia than i have. and you can -- and i know you're nodding "yes" because everyone agrees when they think about it. >> seth: dude, she's not -- [ audience ohs ] she's not nodding yes. she's banging her head against a wall. "nobody's tougher on russia than me." trump's tough with russia the way i'm tough with my wife. i'm taking out the garbage, because i feel like it, not because you told me to. when i get back, i insist that we watch a "house hunters" we've already seen! [ laughter ] that's my choice!
[ cheers and applause ] so, trump says no one's been tougher on russia, which is true. as long as you don't count his initial refusal to impose congressional sanctions on russia. his refusal to blame russia for election hacking. the time he met privately with the russians in the oval office and gave them classified information. or the time he literally invited putin over to the white house. >> president trump appears to be welcoming the kremlin back into the oval office in the, quote-unquote, "not too distant future." the white house confirms president trump and putin discussed the possibility of a meeting at the white house. >> now, the white house confirms the gist of the conversation, but tonight says the invitation was casual and not a formal invitation for official talks. >> seth: how do you have a casual conversation with the leader of an adversarial nation a couple weeks after they were accused of using nerve gas on an ex-spy on british soil. "hey, vlad, baby, it's don. how's it hanging? yeah. [ laughter ] i hear you, gas to spy, you got a lot of nerve. [ laughter and applause ] i'm playing, i'm playing.
i'm just playing with you, vlad. when we getting lunch, bro?" [ laughter and applause ] of course all this comes amid an escalating investigation of the trump campaign's ties to russia. now trump has been upset for months that his attorney general jeff sessions recused himself from the russia investigation. he wants someone who could exert influence over the probe and potentially shut it down. which is why it was alarming today when cnn reported that trump floated replacing sessions with scott pruitt, the head of the environmental protection agency, as recently as this week. trump just keeps moving staffers around. it's like he's rearranging deck chairs on the titanic after it already sunk. [ light laughter ] he moved john kelly to chief of staff, ronny jackson to veteran affairs, now he wants to move pruitt to attorney general. our only hope is that he gets carried away and accidentally replaces himself. [ laughter ] "i move kelly to chief of staff." [ cheers and applause ] "i put pruitt in attorney general. i made a move, i'm very excited about it. i moved pence to president. oh, no! oh, no, what's left for me?
janitor!" [ laughter ] trump, of course, is worried about the investigation, because several of his closest associates have already been indicted. and this week we also learned that special council robert mueller got permission from the justice department to investigate trump's former campaign chairman, paul manafort, for allegedly colluding with the kremlin. >> in a classifed august 2nd,2017 memo, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein tells mueller he should investigate allegations that former trump campaign chairman paul manafort committed a crime by colluding with russian government officials with respect to the russian government efforts to interfere with the 2016 election. >> seth: i got to say, i'm not surprised they're investigating paul manafort for possibly colluding with the russians. i mean, look at him. he has resting crime face. [ laughter ] he looks like a guy who gives you instructions in "grand theft auto." [ laughter ] "i need you to get this envelope to sergei!" [ laughter ]
so the president's former campaign chairman, already under indictment, is also under investigation for possibly colluding with russia. but what about trump himself? on tuesday night, the "washington post" reported that mueller told trump's attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target. now, that's not really a meaningful distinction. you can easily go from being the subject of an investigation to being the target of that investigation. and for their part, trump's allies seem concerned that this might actually be a ploy by mueller to try to lure trump into agreeing into an interview and getting him to say something that would make him a criminal target. >> the special counsel reportedly tells trump's legal team that the president is not a criminal target in the russia probe. can this whole sorted mess finally be winding down? >> he's not a target now. >> uh-huh. >> but we've just been told by trey gowdy and others -- all you do is one mistake, something contradicts, you become an instant target. >> sounds like good news, but some in the white house worry robert mueller may be laying a trap for the president. >> it's a trap. they're trying to lure the president to get him to sit down and talk with the investigators.
>> seth: maybe it is a trap, but in fairness, it's not too hard to trap donald trump. he seems like a guy who would put out mousetraps and then 30 seconds later go, "oh, wow, free cheese! ahh!" [ laughter ] [ applause ] of course, just because you're not yet a criminal target of a scandal, doesn't mean you can't still be implicated in that scanda, as we've learned in the saga over trump's alleged hush payment to porn star stormy daniels. trump and his lawyer michael cohen have been accused of orchestrating an elicit payment to silence daniels and even physically intimidating her. and apparently that's not the end of it. daniel's lawyer said yesterday, there's more to the story. perhaps more than we as a nation or even as human beings are ready for. >> you say there's more to her story than what we've already heard. like what? >> well, when she sat for that interview, it actually lasted over two hours in length, the actual interview. and then the portion that the american public saw was only about 14 or 16 minutes. i mean, for instance, she can
describe the president's genitalia in great detail. >> seth: great detail. i think you mean horrific detail. [ laughter ] i don't want to think about donald trump's penis, because if i do, something tells me i'll never be able to eat hot fries ever again. [ laughter and applause ] also she can describe it in great detail. ugh, you know what that means? they did it with the lights on. [ laughter ] i bet the reason "60 minutes" didn't air that portion of the interview is because this happened to anderson cooper when he heard that description. ♪ >> seth: now for a president who will tweet about almost anything, he's remained curiously silent on the stormy daniels story. but late this afternoon, he weighed in for the first time during a q and a with reporters on air force one where he insisted incredibly that he didn't know about the payment his lawyer michael cohen made to
daniels. >> mr. president, did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no. >> they why did michael -- >> what else? >> then why did michael cohen make this if there was no truth to the allegations? >> you have to ask michael cohen. michael is my attorney. and you'll have to ask michael. >> do you know where he got the money to make that payment? >> no, i don't know. >> seth: what's with the lighting? [ laughter ] you know you're embarrassed by a story when you only will talk about it in the dark. he heard that stormy can describe his genitalia in great details, so now he's trying to hide his entire body. [ laughter ] also, you really expect us to believe you didn't know your personal lawyer wired $130,000 to a porn star you yourself took a picture with? can you imagine what he would say about stormy describing his genitalia? "i don't know if that description is right. it's been years since i've seen it myself. so i "-- [ audience ohs ] [ laughter ] "but probably, high fries." [ laughter ] ultimately, we don't know where
the russia investigation will end up. but the more we find out about what trump's inner circle is doing in the closing months of the campaign, the more obvious it gets. i would ask if trump should be impeached, but as trump himself put it -- >> i know you are nodding "yes" because everyone agrees. >> seth: this has been "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ we'll be right back with edie falco, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: for more of seth's "closer looks," be sure to subscribe to "late night" on youtube. ♪ hey grandpa. hey, kid. really good to see you. you too. you tell grandma you were going fishing again? maybe. (vo) the best things in life keep going. that's why i got a subaru, too.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody! please give it up for the 8g band right over there! [ cheers and applause ] also, all this week we've had a simply legendary drummer with us who is best known for his work with rock and roll hall of fame inductees journey. check out the latest album, "heart of the city", from his acclaimed jazz-rock fusion band, steve smith and vital information. steve smith, everybody. thank you so much. [ cheers and applause ] >> it's been a pleasure to be here. >> seth: been a wonderful week. really appreciate it. our first guest is an emmy and golden globe award-winning actress you know for her roles on "the sopranos" and "nurse jackie." she can be seen next in the film "outside in", which is in select
theaters and on digital platforms nationwide now. let's take a look. >> so this is the first time i've ever done this. but i'm pretty proud of it. >> wow, that is -- so -- >> it's the worst thing you've ever seen. >> no, wait, it has -- it has -- its own charm. i mean, this can only be me, right? [ laughter ] >> seriously. please, keep it. for your own -- >> i can keep this? >> please keep it. >> seth: please welcome back to the show edie falco, everyone! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: welcome back! >> thank you! >> seth: so happy to have you here. >> i'm happy to be here. >> seth: i want to talk about this wonderful film, but i would
be remiss not to ask you this. because i know we talked about "the sopranos" last time you were here. it's just been announced david chase is going to make a prequel movie to "the sopranos" called "the many saints of newark." is that as exciting to you as it is to me? >> that's already more than i knew. >> seth: really? >> yeah. [ laughter ] i didn't know the title. >> seth: so i should have said "spoiler alert." >> yeah. >> seth: i feel like i didn't realize -- >> a little late for that. [ laughter ] but -- no, i just found out about it like everybody else. it's, you know, the story, i guess of tony's parents and uncle junior when they were kids. >> seth: so there's no baby carmela? you don't have to worry about -- >> you know, i put in my picture and resume, that's all i can do. >> seth: okay, that's great. [ laughter ] this is a wonderful film. this is -- you play a high school teacher who is helping an ex-student get out of jail. >> right. >> seth: and doing advocacy work despite the fact that you have your own family and your own job. what drew you to a role like this? >> i worked with jay duplass, sort of worked with him, on a movie called "landline." we weren't in scenes together, but i met him and he's just charming and darling and sweet. >> seth: and a wonderful actor,
yeah. >> and a fantastic actor. they said he co-wrote it and was starring in it, which was amazingly great. and then i read the script and it's the way people really talk and it seems to be the way people really live. and that's the kind of stuff i respond to, so that was it. >> seth: that's fantastic. i know one thing that it had that you don't love is you actually had to go to washington state to shoot it. >> yes. >> seth: because you -- >> big challenge. >> seth: you love being in new york, right? >> you know, i would like to say that's what it is. i think it's more that i don't like being somewhere else. >> seth: okay, gotcha, that -- [ laughter ] >> i mean, i just don't like leaving home. >> seth: yeah. >> and i have a family and a life here. and it's different from when i was a little kid and it was like, you know, pack your bag and we're going to shoot a movie in -- >> seth: right. >> you know, timbuktu. and it's just those days are gone. so -- >> seth: right. you like being home. >> i like being home. >> seth: you like being in new york. and you have been in new york for a long time. >> long time. >> seth: you -- i read an interview with you and i was thrilled to hear the way that you used to get around new york city, which is rollerblades. >> oh, yeah. >> seth: is this true? [ laughter ] this is true! >> for many, many years. >> seth: wow, wow! >> rollerblades and chain smoking. >> seth: wow, that is -- [ laughter ] >> it really was like --
[ laughter ] seriously. seriously. >> seth: i feel like there was like a day where both of those became outlawed in new york. it was, like, the same day. [ light laughter ] >> and it didn't matter to me at all, though. >> seth: yeah. >> it took me many years to stop both of them. >> seth: i was going to say, it seems dangerous to rollerblade in new york. but if you were already smoking a cigarette, like -- [ laughter ] you were obviously looking death in the eye. >> some sort of a death wish, i guess. >> seth: yeah. and now -- >> for years i did that. >> seth: and now a vespa is -- >> yeah. >> seth: is that active? are you still -- >> oh, yeah, yeah. >> seth: okay. >> i used it this afternoon. i use it all the time. it's the best way to get around the city. you're in and out of appointments. you pull between two cars, you know? it's just great. >> seth: and you -- your kids -- was there a time in your life when your kids would ride on the vespa with you? would you have a kid on the back? >> the time was -- today, this afternoon, in fact. >> seth: oh, wow! [ laughter ] >> yeah. yeah. >> seth: that's great! >> it is great. i love it. you don't go -- you never get to go really fast. >> seth: right. >> you know? >> seth: i think your kids -- you must have a great relationship with your kids if they're willing to jump on the back of the vespa with their mom. i think that's a very -- [ laughter ] >> they don't do it willingly. >> seth: okay, gotcha. [ laughter ] >> mind you. no, they actually get a kick out of it. >> seth: well, i just feel bad because they probably get all
the cigarette smoke, right? [ laughter ] >> that's funny. >> seth: thank you. >> i'm just saying. >> seth: so do they -- they're 13 and 10? >> yes. >> seth: son's 13, right? >> right. >> seth: acting bug? >> not at all, no. >> seth: really? >> i don't know even know if they know that's what i do. [ laughter ] you know, i just have weird hours and i come home and i have a lot of makeup on. >> seth: yeah. >> but they don't ask, you know. >> seth: uh-huh. [ light laughter ] >> it's -- they saw me on a bus once and they were a little suspect, but they didn't pursue it. >> seth: gotcha. what do you think it is that they pursue. what are the -- at those ages, what do they want to be? >> my son wants to be a soccer star. >> seth: okay. >> i'm not entirely sure he won't, he's very good. >> seth: okay, that's exciting. >> i dare say. my daughter wants to be a pop star and veterinarian. >> seth: oh, yeah. [ laughter ] >> so -- by the time she's of age those two things may somehow be combined. i don't know. >> seth: you're a dog lover. [ light laughter ] >> i am a big animal lover, yeah. >> seth: i have a dog, as well. you took your dog to a dog psychic. >> no! >> seth: you didn't? >> that would make more sense. >> seth: okay. >> i spoke to a woman on the phone who was in -- i'm going to say north dakota. >> seth: okay.
>> and i think i had to send her a picture first. >> seth: okay. >> and that's what we did. >> seth: oh, wait. so she told you what your dog was thinking off a photo? [ laughter ] why didn't she just -- >> can i just tell you? my -- this dog was a little teeny dog i had rescued. >> seth: okay. >> and she was sick all the time. and it turned out, i found out later on, that she was pregnant, because she had been a mommy in a puppy mill. >> seth: okay. >> right? so, anyway, it's a long, ugly story. when i asked the woman, she said, "wait, she's saying to me, 'they're taking my babies,' your dog is saying." which she knew that my dog had been a mom, like, many times -- it was crazy weird that this woman knew these things. >> seth: yeah. >> i don't know. i mean, i totally bought it. >> seth: yeah. >> hook, line, and sinker. [ laughter ] >> seth: i mean, i -- >> i didn't pay. i didn't pay anything. >> seth: you did -- okay. well, now that -- >> so none the wiser, i mean. >> seth: so what is this -- so this person just is, like, running a terrible business where -- [ laughter ] >> i don't think it's her business. it might just be, like, a little side thing he does. i don't know. >> seth: what? >> i don't know! >> seth: how did you find her? >> it was at a -- at somebody's -- like a -- i don't know, a baby shower.
>> seth: uh-huh. >> and a woman said, "oh, i know a dog psychic." and it went like that. i don't know. [ laughter ] >> seth: there was nothing up until that point? nothing came up before that? >> you know, i barely remember my children's names so give me a minute. it was something like that. >> seth: gotcha. >> yes. >> seth: one thing that obviously keeps you in new york is when you do stuff -- stage stuff here. >> yeah. >> seth: i know you've done a lot in the past. do you have anything coming up? is that something you'd like to do right now? >> i do, in fact. i'm going to be doing a play with the new group in september called "the true." >> seth: that's exciting. >> and i don't even know if i'm supposed to say that yet. >> seth: oh, that's exciting! >> but i just did. so -- >> seth: there you go. >> there you have it. >> seth: well, now it's out there. >> yeah. >> seth: you know who -- [ cheers and applause ] i actually already knew about it, because i talked to this woman in north dakota -- [ laughter ] i sent her -- just before i interview someone -- >> sent a picture of me. >> seth: i sent her a picture of you. >> that's so good. [ laughter ] she's like, "i don't know about the dog, but edie is doing a play. [ laughter ] that much i know." >> seth: thank you so much for being back. >> so happy to be here. >> seth: it's always such a pleasure to have you here. [ cheers and applause ] edie falco, everybody! "outside in" is available in
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. our next guest is a versatile actor you know best from films such as "mudbound" and "zero dark thirty." he stars as senator ted kennedy in "chappaquiddick" in theaters tomorrow. let's take a look. >> we need to remind the american people what this family has been through, and how much more we have left to achieve. >> and how are you planning on doing that ted? >> a nationally televised statement. all three networks, prime time. >> is that all? >> why not have ted fill in for
carson on "the tonight show"? >> seth: please welcome to the show, jason clarke, everyone! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: welcome! let me start by thanking you for being here. and also congratulating you. your wife gave birth three days ago. >> she did. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: congratulations! and -- >> i'm a very, very, very proud father. i've got to say, a very proud papa. yeah. >> seth: yeah, as well you should be. this was your second? >> my second. >> seth: so, i'm about to have my second any day now, really. and i have to say, was it -- was the experience the same? or did you feel like a pro being in there the second time? >> i mean -- i mean, 45 minutes my wife took to deliver. >> seth: yeah. >> and it was incredible.
the nurses were just extraordinary. and i was in a state of shock. i mean i really was. >> seth: i only hope i can be as useless as i was last time. [ laughter ] >> no, but really. i was text -- i was sending texts, and then the nurse, when they measured her cervix, they said, "we're at nine, we're going." we're what? you know, it was like -- >> seth: yeah. >> i mean, literally. it was -- >> seth: by the way, even at eight you shouldn't be texting. [ laughter ] >> no i didn't, but that was the first measurement they took. >> seth: oh, i got it. >> that was the first measurement, we were there taking it easy and then it was like, we're nine. it's like, oh, whoa, okay. >> seth: well, that's great. >> yeah. >> seth: and was it a boy, girl? what did you have? >> a boy. >> seth: a little boy. congratulations. >> a little boy. >> seth: you have another little boy, as well, right? >> yeah. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: that's very exciting. and may i just say thank you -- thank you to your family for letting you be here tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thanks guys. really. [ light laughter ] papa really is working. okay? actually, i do have something to do. >> seth: i know it looks like papa is just talking to a man -- >> well, my son, my son doesn't know what i do. i mean it's like, you know, he says, "where are you going, papa?"
you know, somebody comes to pick me up again. and it's two sleeps, two sleeps. so umm -- >> seth: oh that -- you mean you'll see him in two sleeps? >> yeah. >> seth: that's wonderful. >> so if you're still up watching, here i am. >> seth: all right, there you go. [ audience aws ] and we'll -- this is the bad man who took your father. [ laughter ] >> it's him, it's him, it's him. >> seth: so i want to ask how much did you know -- one, about the kennedys. and two, about this specific moment -- this chappaquiddick moment before this movie? >> well, i mean like most people, i thought i knew a lot. >> seth: yeah. >> like everybody, i thought i knew a lot about the kennedys, i thought i knew about american politics, i thought i knew about this incident. but then when i read that script, and then i got off the plane, and checked the facts i realized how little i did know. >> seth: yeah. >> you know, i couldn't believe some of the things i'd read in the script. such as, you know, the asphyxiation. or you know, lack of air rather than drowning. >> seth: well it's funny, i just -- i do want to explain, because i think you had this moment happen at the premiere, where you realize like a lot of younger people don't know about this moment where ted kennedy drove off a bridge. >> yeah, yeah. yeah. >> seth: there was a women in the car. he survives, she didn't. and this film kind of covers the
days after, and his pretty terrible behavior in the moments after this accident happened. >> yeah, his behavior. i mean, society's behavior. i mean, you know, he not only got away with it, but he also managed to thrive. and also went on to do a great many wonderful, amazing things in terms of the legislature that he passed, and contribute to society. but yes, he got away with it, you know, and we elected him. >> seth: and we talk now -- you know obviously, i think the thing we're talking about a lot right now is like what people in politics are getting away with right now. >> yeah. >> seth: it's like nothing we've ever seen before. and it does strike me that other current generations forget that people have been getting away with things -- >> for a long time, yeah. >> seth: and not just people in the republican party, but people in the democratic party as well, with terrible behavior. >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: and did you find like when you screened this -- because i know one of the taglines for the film is "this really happened." >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: because people might not believe that this was a thing that someone got away with. >> it's true. i mean things are pretty crazy now, but 1968, you know, martin luther king, 50 years.
he was shot, bobby kennedy was shot. there were race riots. there was a vietnam war. i mean these are crazy days. but i think it's always important to put things in context, and perspective, and learn from history. and understand that, you know what? we've been through tough times. with the right people, with the right thought, and education, and votes, and belief, we can make better days. >> seth: one thing that you had to overcome, which a lot of people who are ever in films like this have to do, is a boston accent. i want to say that you did a fantastic job. it was really well done. >> thank you. i also had false teeth in too. >> seth: well, i have to say, when i heard you also had false teeth in based on how good yours was, i think maybe everyone who does a boston accent might have to wear the false teeth from here on out. [ laughter ] 'cause a lot of them just sound like they're wearing false teeth. how did you approach that? did you just watch a ton of tape? >> i did. i listened to a lot of bobby's speeches particularly, a lot of jack's speeches. and then eventually ted's speeches. but for a long time my ted -- because it was very thick in my mouth. so ted -- my ted had a lisp. you know as i was getting ready.
she sells seashells by the seashore, until i could get that -- [ laughter ] literally, that was what it was. and then eventually we got the teeth right, and my tongue got stronger, and then, you know, it was chappaquiddick. off we went. >> seth: i would love a behind of the scenes of just your tongue workout massage. [ laughter ] >> it was. >> seth: just like tiny little tongue curls. >> no really, it is. it literally is. it's one thing to do it for an hour. it's another one to do it for 16 hours a day -- >> seth: yeah. >> and my mouth would be bleeding with those teeth after a while. it hurts. >> seth: oh, my god. this is your, like de niro in "raging bull." >> this is my -- [ light laughter ] i drank tubs of ice cream! >> seth: you did shoot on location a fair amount, yes? >> we did. we shot on chappaquiddick on the bridge. >> seth: and you walked around. and i've spent time out there, and people who were around then, they love -- or don't love, but they talk about this. they remember where there were. obviously for that tiny place this was -- >> yeah. >> seth: to be a part of this historic moment. what did you find walking around and talking to people? >> i found -- i found them to have a great lot of respect and dignity.
i mean we screened it there recently on the island, and we asked for a show of hands of literally who was there on the day, and there was a lot of people that were. and there were some very deep, emotional reactions to this. and one gentleman in particular got up, and said, "thank you. thank you for this film. we've all carried this around. we all know what happened. and it's been a long time coming for this community." this young, beautiful, smart, believer in bobby's campaign in '68, that was going to change politics and end the war, the great liberal campaign, she died at bobby kennedy's brother's hands in a car. >> seth: yeah. >> so it's something they've carried for a long time. and i think we do it justice. and do it with honesty, and integrity. >> seth: well, it really is a wonderful film. and you're a wonderful -- >> thank you, seth. >> seth: yeah, no, i wanted -- you know, again, you're coming out three days after having a baby, i want to make sure you know that. but some of your early work also had a lot of great weight behind it. >> oh you're going to go there, aren't you? >> seth: i am. well it's the first time i saw you, and i was like, "who is this powerhouse?" >> well, i was young. i needed the money! [ laughter ]
>> seth: this doesn't look like a cash grab. >> it could be any number of things. >> seth: look, i mean if you think i'm giving you a hard time for being in the mary-kate and ashley olsen film, "our lips are sealed", that's not what i'm doing. [ laughter ] >> oh! oh, no, no, no. [ cheers and applause ] that's some of my better work. i'll stand by that. >> seth: yeah, yeah, yeah. you thought i was talking about something else. no, well first, let us show the clip, because then i want to hear about your niece. >> they still won't talk. [ laughter ] >> okay. didn't want to have to resort to this. >> you wouldn't dare. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i do want to say something. i have heard this is -- >> he's mocking, isn't he? he's definitely mocking me. >> seth: this is not the first time you've gotten a hard time over the film. is it your niece that gives you a hard time?
>> you know what, that's -- my little niece, as she gets older, and she brings all of her friends over. and they bring me into the -- "jason, uncle jason, come on. we want to watch 'planet of the apes'. we want to watch this or that." and i get in there, and that's playing, and they just all -- ten little girls laughing at me. [ laughter ] as you just did! >> seth: yeah, as i just did. >> you all did. >> seth: i learned it from her! hey, thanks so much for being here. i really appreciate it. great meeting you. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you, man. good luck man, good luck with your baby. >> seth: thank you so much. thank you. >> really. >> seth: jason clarke, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] "chappaquiddick" will be in theaters this friday. we'll be right back with more "late night." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ oh -- you're bad enough to me ♪ ♪ bad enough that we ♪ always have something to get over ♪ ♪ oh -- but when the night is deep ♪ ♪ you find me in the streets ♪ asking me - to come over ♪
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now in a segment we call "extreme dog shaming." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: extreme, indeed. so let's take a look at our first dog. aww. [ audience aws ] he's adorable. i can't imagine he'd do anything too bad. i call people without texting first. [ laughter ] don't do that. bad dog. who's next? aww. [ audience aws ] what'd you do, buddy? i sigh loudly, even when the line has just three people. [ laughter ] where you got to be? all right. who's next? oh, boy. [ audience aws ] what'd you do, sir? i've been with my girlfriend for a year and i still haven't deleted tinder. [ laughter and applause ] bad dog. who's next? oh. [ audience aws ] what did you do, buddy? when i'm getting dressed at the gym, i save my pants for dead last. [ laughter ] bad dog. who's next? look at this fellow. [ audience aws ] what did he do? i fire people via tweet.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest is an lgbtq advocate, and the national press secretary for the human rights campaign. her book, "tomorrow will be different: love, loss, and the fight for trans equality", is available now. please welcome to the show, sarah mcbride, everyone! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: thank you so much for being here. >> thank you so much for having me. >> seth: so, we first sort of got introduced to you -- i know this was the first time i saw you. you spoke at the 2016 democratic convention. you were 25 years old, is that right? >> i was. yes. >> seth: you were the first transgender person to ever speak
at a convention, very exciting. but this was pretty much, this had been decided years ago. this is -- you wanted to be speaking at political events. >> i did. so when i was about 11 years old, i asked my parents for a podium for christmas. and they fortunately got it for me. so i'd been practicing for the convention for about 12 years. i asked them at one point for a teleprompter. but they realized that they'd have to hire a teleprompter operator, so they nixed that idea. >> seth: yeah, and then there'd just be a weird guy living in the house. [ laughter ] >> yeah, right. living in my bedroom. would not work out well. >> seth: so, you know, i think we talk a lot -- and it's healthy, because we're talking about transgender issues more. but your book kind of talks about the transgender community is full of people just like everybody else, and who have the same complex issues that all people have. was that something that you tried to address? is that something you set out to do? >> yeah, well with the convention, and with this book, i wanted to make sure that people understood that behind this national conversation on trans rights are real people who love and laugh, hope and dream,
fear and cry just like everyone else. and this is the story of my own journey as a transgender woman, and as an advocate. but also the story of my relationship with my late husband, andy, who was a transgender man and advocate. and i wanted people to enter into that conversation who understand that transgender people, quite simply, are people. >> seth: you talk, you mention -- [ cheers and applause ] yes. you mentioned your partner, andy, you very sadly, tragically lost him to cancer. what was it like revisiting that in the writing of this book? >> so i met andy, andy cray, who was an attorney and advocate just a couple of weeks after i came out at a white house pride reception. under the obama administration, not under the trump administration. >> seth: yeah, that's happening less. >> it's not happening anymore. >> seth: yeah. >> and i quickly fell in love with him. he was an incredible person with an incredible sense of humor. he was diagnosed with cancer just a couple of months after we started dating. went through treatment, and then
he got the news that every patient fears, his cancer was back, and it was terminal. so we got married three weeks after that diagnosis and then just a couple of days after that he passed away. and i think in many ways i sort of jumped back into advocacy after he passed, and i didn't let myself grieve. so writing this book for me was a healing process. it allowed me to sort of take stock in the emotions and the experiences that i had. but also it was my way of sort of living those experiences, and living those lessons again, and really finding hope again because i wrote it after the election, and i wasn't feeling too good after the election. >> seth: well, i'm glad you found some hope again on behalf of all of us. i also want to talk about this administration. obviously, they are doing a lot to roll back the advancements that happened during the obama administration. certainly this transgender military ban is just one example. yet at the same time, we are seeing more transgender people.
you know, there's a lot more of them in the media. >> right. >> seth: there's a lot more of them telling their story like you. do you feel like the cultural change will ultimately catch up, and surpass anything political that's being put in your way? >> yeah. you know, i think what we've seen over the last couple of years is that every single time anti-equality politicians come for us, and come for the transgender community, we end up coming for them on election day. we end up having a conversation with the country that serves to open hearts and change minds. and with each attack, we end up getting stronger in the end. and i think we saw that in north carolina when we defeated pat mcquarry after he passed hb2 -- that hateful law that banned transgender people from using restrooms consistent with our gender identity. and i think we're seeing that now, that our stories, and our voices, and our lives will continue to open hearts, and move equality forward no matter who is president. >> seth: that is wonderful to hear. [ cheers and applause ] i -- so you got joe biden. >> yes. >> seth: joe biden wrote your foreword. you are from delaware. so, very exciting, obviously.
when you first met joe biden how did that go down? well, i about was 11 years old, and i walked into a pizza shop with my parents and joe biden was sitting there. and joe biden came in from the amtrak 'cause he actually rode the amtrak every single day to dover -- >> seth: yeah, he better. >> or to washington. and he came in, and i looked up at him with my mouth completely open. >> seth: did you have the podium, or was the podium at home? >> the podium. it was -- it was not travel -- although i did dress up as a podium for christmas one year. >> seth: great. >> or for halloween one year. and he kneeled down, and he looked into my eyes, and he wrote on a piece of paper, he said, "remember me when you're president" -- which i'm sure he wrote to every single little kid at 11. >> seth: well yeah, he wants to play the odds. >> right, yeah, right. [ laughter ] >> seth: well that's fantastic. and it's so lovely that he wrote the foreword. and it's so lovely to have you here. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> seth: really appreciate it. [ cheers and applause ] sarah mcbride, everybody. "tomorrow will be different" is available now. we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ♪
[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: my thanks to edie falco, jason clarke, sarah mcbride, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] steve smith and, of course, the 8g band. stay tuned for carson daly! we'll see you tomorrow! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> carson: hey, what's up folks? it's "last call" carson daly and you are looking at the beautiful time new york hotel, our home for tonight's show. coming up, we intruce to