tv Late Night With Seth Meyers NBC July 20, 2018 12:37am-1:38am PDT
>> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- amanda seyfried, msnbc anchor katy tur, music from brandi carlile, featuring the 8g band with emmanuelle caplette. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers, this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] that's fantastic. in that case, let's get to the news. in an interview last night, president trump said that he told russian president vladimir putin not to meddle in any future u.s. elections.
so good news, apparently there are going to be future u.s. elections. [ laughter and applause ] no small thing. the white house announced today that president trump plans to invite russian president vladimir putin to washington this fall in what is sure to be the worst ever episode of "undercover boss." [ laughter and applause ] russian state media showed video today of nuclear weapons being tested despite president trump and vladimir putin talking this week about avoiding an arms race. even worse, they showed the helsinki summit with a laugh track. >> there was no collusion at all. [ laughter and applause ] ♪ everybody knows it. ♪ [ laughter ] [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: former white house press secretary sean spicer said in an interview this morning that he thinks president trump is a truthful person.
said spicer, "i mean, he said he was going to fire my dumb ass and then he did." [ light laughter ] according to politico it cost the federal government $250 thousand per month last near to provide secret service protection for eric and donald trump jr. well, if you want to save some money in the future, just put the tide pods on a higher shelf. [ laughter and applause ] "dad, it happened again. it happened again. it ate the candy and it turned out to be soap. [ laughter ] and eric did it too. i did it too, dad, i thought it was -- [ laughter ] i thought it was candy, and it was soap." [ laughter ] bruce springsteen made a surprise appearance at billy joel's 100th show at madison square garden last night. "only in new york," said a guy getting robbed by a rat. [ laughter ]
"slow down, rat, i'm going to give you my money. [ laughter ] well played, rat." aviation companies are reportedly considering recruiting more women to help combat a growing shortage of pilots and mechanics, which came as a shock to spirit airlines. "wait, you guys have pilots and mechanics?" [ laughter and applause ] an ice cream shop in scotland has created a new mayonnaise flavored ice cream. [ audience ews ] and if you're dying to try it, you were probably dying to begin with. [ laughter ] and finally, a grandmother in georgia was attacked by a bobcat with rabies recently, and she strangled it to death with her bare hands. [ cheers ] which brings us to a segment we call, "the kind of story we need right now." ♪ [ cheers and applause ]
>> seth: this is dede phillips. she's a grandmother, and she was standing in her driveway recently when a bobcat with rabies leapt at her, and she strangled it with her bare hands. this is the kind of story we need right now. [ light laughter ] seems like every news story these days is about treason and betrayal and hopelessness, which is why we need a good old fashioned story about kicking ass. [ laughter ] i'm going to tell you that story right now. this woman -- [ laughter ] was standing in her driveway -- [ laughter ] when she spotted a mangy bobcat, and she knew right away that it was trouble. seconds later, it leapt at her face, so she grabbed it by the shoulders and quote, "took it down." [ laughter and applause ] this grandma -- [ cheers and applause ] this grandma right here. [ cheers and applause ] caught a bobcat in mid-air. [ laughter ]
that's insane. my grandma can't even catch the bus. [ laughter ] this is the kind of story we need right now. every day, every news organization is like, "blah, blah, blah, we're all going to die." and this woman's like, "i'm not." [ laughter ] by the way, just in case you're picturing a regular house cat, that's not what we're talking about here. this is a cat named bob. [ audience aws ] this is a bobcat. [ laughter ] phillips told police that during the attack, her five year old grand-daughter was inside the house sleeping, so phillips didn't make any noise because she didn't want to wake her. [ laughter and applause ] look, i know grandmas are supposed to be nice, but that is some next level [ bleep ]. [ laughter and applause ] "my grandma made me cookies." "my grandma wrestled a bobcat to death in silence so i could nap." [ laughter and applause ] imagine -- just imagine if you
can for a second, what was going through that bobcat's head while this was happening? [ light laughter ] not only is this old lady killing me, she's not making a sound. [ laughter ] the scariest thing i can imagine in the world is a quiet grandma strangling you to death. [ laughter ] "grandma, why?" [ laughter ] "why, grandma, just tell me why." [ laughter ] now you're probably wondering what this woman was doing out in her driveway in the first place. well, it's simple, she was, and i'm not making this up, putting a bumper sticker on her truck that said, "women who behave rarely make history." [ laughter and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] first of all, of course she has a truck, this story is [ bleep ] great. [ laughter ] second of all, i think this proves once and for all that
bobcats can't read because if you were a bobcat and you saw that, you'd think, "i'm gonna find a different grandma." [ laughter ] after the incident was over, phillips was taken to the hospital where she was treated for several broken fingers. she didn't make any noise, while breaking several of her fingers. this grandma, this grandma right here, went face to face with death and came out a winner and that made me feel like a winner. so to dede phillips i say, thank you. and to the rest of you i say, please get out there and do some kickass stuff to distract us from all the terrible stuff. this has been "the kind of story we need right now." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] we got a great show for you tonight. her new film "mamma mia! here we go again" is in theaters this weekend, amanda seyfried is back on the show, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] she is an nbc news correspondent and anchor of the 2:00 p.m. hour
of msnbc live, our friend katy tur is back on the show. [ cheers and applause ] and one of our favorites, brandi carlile is here to sing for us. and this is so cool, last month brandi played a hometown fundraiser where she met a 13 year old named benicio bryant who sang her the song "the joke" and blew her away. so brandi brought him here to sing it with her tonight. i met him backstage. he's a super cool kid, and i'm just so looking forward to that. so you're here on an excellent night, you guys. [ cheers and applause ] but before we get to any of that, republicans have opposed every attempt to hold president trump accountable for his comments on russian election meddling, but there is one idea they seem to like, more tax cuts. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: trump continues to stammer and back-peddle after his disastrous performance with vladimir putin on monday. in an interview with fox news for example, he seemed to imply
that russia was actually an ally of the united states, but also insisted that he was not pro-russia. >> look at world war i and world war ii. that was germany, and in world war ii russia lost 50 million people, and helped us win the war. and i was saying to myself the other day, i said, "you know, russia really helped us." i'm not pro-russia, pro-anybody. >> seth: "i'm not pro-anybody." it would have been much more honest if trump had said that with his hand on the bible. [ laughter ] i'm not pro-anybody. i'm only pro-myself, and i stand firmly behind my closest allies, me, myself, and i. [ laughter ] so help me god, a person who, if i'm being honest, i could leave or take. [ laughter ] now of course diplomacy is infinitely preferable to conflict, but russia isn't just an adversary, it's a repressive state that interferes in our elections, kills journalist and dissidents, uses nerve gas on foreign soil, and invades its neighbors. and yet, trump, who has repeatedly cast himself as a fighter and counter-puncher, wouldn't even use the word adversary to describe russia.
>> are they our chief adversary would you say? >> well, they're strong military -- but their economy is much smaller, as you know, than china. and i don't want to even use the word adversary. we can all work together. we can do great. everybody can do well, and we can live in peace. >> seth: this guy will wake up at 5:00 a.m. to tweet nasty things about everyone from snoop dogg to meryl streep, but when it comes to russia, he suddenly turns into ringo starr. [ laughter ] we can all live together as one. peace and love, peace and love. no collusion, no collusion. peace and love. [ laughter and applause ] and look, in theory what he's saying sounds great, of course it would be ideal if we could be at peace with our adversaries. in fact, after world war ii we actually set up international organizations to try to do that, like nato, or the beginnings of the european union. and as far as world wars go, they've been pretty effective in stopping them. and yet at every turn trump has attacked those organizations. in that same interview, for example, he implied that new members of nato, like the small eastern european nation of
montenegro, which has fewer than a million people might actually start a war with russia. >> membership in nato obligates the members to defend any other member that's attacked, so let's say montenegro, which joined last year is attacked. why should my son go to montenegro to defend it from attack? why is that -- >> i understand what you're saying. i've asked the same question, you know, montenegro is a tiny country with very strong people. >> yeah, i'm not against -- >> ah, right -- >> or albania -- >> no, by the way, they're very strong people. they're very aggressive people. they may get aggressive and congratulations, you're in world war iii. >> seth: ah, yes the famously aggressive people of montenegro. [ laughter ] and i'm sorry, but there's a zero percent chance that trump ever heard of montenegro before his meeting with putin. montenegro, oh, yeah, my friend dave used to drive one of those. [ laughter ] beautiful car, the montenegro. trump acts like he's an expert on montenegro, but i'm absolutely certain he couldn't find it on a map if you gave him ten tries. is it this one? okay, is it this one?
[ laughter ] okay, it's got to be this one. [ laughter ] and to be fair, i couldn't find montenegro on a map either, but i'm not the one talking about it like i'm a producer on "house hunters international." [ laughter ] also, can we go back to the beginning of that clip? >> why should my son go to montenegro to defend it from attack? why's that -- >> i understand what you're saying. i've asked the same question. >> seth: "i understand what you're saying. i asked the same question." sounds like he's doing a robert de niro impression there. [ laughter and applause ] and i think de niro has something to say about you doing that impression. >> [ bleep ] trump. [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: now here's the thing -- [ cheers and applause ] here's the thing -- i know what i'm saying. trump has made clear repeatedly that he aligned himself with putin. there are no surprises there. the question is whether congress is willing to do anything, like censure him or subpoena his tax returns, and so far the answer has been a resounding "no." alaska senator lisa murkowski, who casts herself as an occasional trump critic told politico "when the president says something that i disagree with, i will state my
disagreements sometimes very directly. i don't know if you've noticed, i'm not really a bomb thrower. i don't really lay my body in front of the train." that is an amazing quote. i don't know if you've noticed, but i would never sacrifice myself for the greater good. i'm not one of those serve the public types. [ laughter ] also you don't have to lay in front of the train, the train's already off the tracks and headed your way. right now it's on fox news saying something crazy about montenegro. [ laughter ] trump's ties to russian oligarchs obviously pose major conflict of interest questions and might at least partially explain his affinity for putin. and yet, republicans are still pushing back on demands to see trump's tax returns. like new york congressman, tom reid, who actually tried to claim that if hillary clinton had refused to release her tax returns, republicans would have been fine with that. >> do you want to see his tax returns? >> as we have always said, the issue of this question is that red herring, you know, the president has made the decision. he's won the election, the way that it's been handled.
we need to move forward. >> republicans had a lot of concern about where hillary clinton's money was tied up with the clinton foundation. if she said she wasn't going to release her tax returns, and then became president, and had a whole lot of controversy and drama surrounding her ties to a foreign government the way that donald trump did, would you think it was appropriate for her not to release her tax returns? >> no, that's for her to decide, and we respect that decision. >> seth: that is insane. if president hillary clinton has been accused of colluding with a foreign adversary to undermine an election and refused to release her tax returns, mitch mcconnell would personally dig through her trash, and break into her house like tom cruise in "mission impossible." [ laughter and applause ] also, stop saying we need to move forward. you support donald trump. he can't make it through one press conference without mentioning how many electoral votes he won two years ago. if he's ever indicted, he's tell the judge, "i ask that we move this trial to wisconsin, which i won and many people don't know this, i also won the carolinas, all three of them." [ laughter ]
and then there was kentucky congressman thomas massie who said that it was actually the democrat's fault they were hacked. >> hacking emails is a crime. >> well then, you know, debbie wasserman schultz probably shouldn't hire foreign nationals to run our congressional email accounts, and give them all of her passwords at the dmc. >> is that actually more serious to you, that was donald trump's reference to a pakistani yesterday. >> they did it. >> debbie wasserman schultz, and a pakistani american citizen is more important to you? >> i'm not -- i don't see your dichotomy there. what i do see is that, you know, we should protect our systems. you can't protect stupid. >> seth: what do you mean you can't protect stupid? the secret service does it every day! [ laughter and applause ] we've got a -- stupid is on the move. [ laughter ] i'd say he's lumbering, you got some time. [ laughter ] so after the president openly
took the side of a foreign adversary, and its attempt to undermine american democracy, republicans see no need to either subpoena his tax returns, or protect our election systems. so what's their solution instead? according to texas congressman kevin grady who met with trump this week, the solution to russian aggression is to make the gop's corporate tax cuts, which are set to expire in 2025, permanent. >> peace through strength is foreign policy that works. and it works best when america has a strong economy, and a strong military. under your leadership, house and senate republicans are delivering on both of them. today is about how we can strengthen america's economy even more, and we think the best place to start is with america's middle class families, and our small business. so today we're here to talk to you about making permanent this tax relief. >> seth: oh, my god, they really think tax cuts are the solution to everything. republicans use tax cuts the way guy fieri uses butter. [ laughter ] and obviously this is insane for a number of reasons.
not only will corporate tax cuts do absolutely nothing to deter russian aggression, they don't even do anything to help the economy, or specifically, worker's wages. as we've already seen with these gop tax cuts. >> the financial website payscale has released its data for the second quarter of 2018, and found that the average wage paid to u.s. workers is down for the first time since early 2015. accounting for inflation the wages of american workers have dropped 1.4% in the past year. that's despite one time bonuses paid by some businesses in the wage of the gop tax cuts. >> seth: that's right, wages have actually gone down since the tax cuts passed. trump said the tax cuts would raise wages. how do you explain that, mr. president? >> i said the word "would" instead of "wouldn't." [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: okay. totally correct. this is one of the keys. one of the keys to understanding what's happening right now, the gop establishment and donor class are fine with trump's attacks on democracy as long as they can enrich themselves.
they're hostile to democracy because democracy is hostile to their agenda. and they think passing another tax cut bill, and pleasing their wealthy donors will protect trump politically, but if there's one thing we've learned this week, it's that -- >> you can't protect stupid. [ laughter ] >> seth: this has been "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with amanda seyfried, everybody. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> announcer: for more of seth's closer looks, be sure to subscribe to "late night" on youtube. ♪ (vo) what if this didn't have to happen? i didn't see it. (vo) what if we could go back? what if our car... could stop itself? in iihs front-end crash prevention testing, nobody beats the subaru impreza.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody, and give it up for the 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause ] so all this week, we've had an internationally-recognized drummer, clinician, and educator sitting in with us. her new album "size doesn't matter" is available now. for more information, go to emmanuelle caplette.com from montreal, canada, emmanuelle caplette, everyone! >> thank you very much! [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: thank you. thank you for a wonderful week. >> thank you. >> seth: please come back soon. our first guest tonight is a very talented actress you know from such films as "mean girls" and "les miserables." she returns as sophie in the highly anticipated "mamma mia! here we go again," which is in theaters tomorrow. let's take a look. ♪ anybody could be that guy night is young and the music's high
with a bit of rock music ♪ ♪ everything is fine you're in the mood for a dance ♪ >> seth: please welcome back to the show, amanda seyfried, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: hi! >> what's going on? >> seth: it's great to see you. you know, christine baranski was here last night. she showed a clip from the movie. i watched that clip. you all seem like you're having so fun. >> it's -- >> seth: you guys were just stealing money. >> it's ridiculous. we were just -- we were getting paid to, like, frolic again. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> 10 years later. >> seth: because that's not cgi. you were on a real island. >> no, i know. and, god, our dp is amazing. dude, he, like, really captured it. it feels like you're there. >> seth: yeah. >> i mean, i've watched it twice. i feel like i'm brought back. >> seth: it really is -- i didn't know what abba music looked like, but it is that. >> yeah! >> seth: yeah. >> yes, it's candy. [ laughter ] >> seth: it's, like, that's what i thought the whole time. >> yes.
>> seth: and i didn't know until you showed it. >> i know. >> seth: it was like, "yes." it was that boat. >> it's like a drug. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: i want to ask more about the movie but i also want -- because we have a very similar situation. >> yeah. >> seth: you have a dog you love to death. >> i do. >> seth: who's a bit of an instagram celebrity. this is your dog, finn. right? >> yep. >> seth: there she is. >> he-he-he-he. >> seth: he-he-he-he. [ audience aws ] >> he-he. >> seth: and finn, it's a boy's name, so i should have known that. and you also have a small child. >> i do. >> seth: about 16 months old, right? >> yep. yeah. >> seth: 8-year-old dog, 16-month-old. >> oh, god. >> seth: we have very similar situation with our age, children and our dog. >> yeah. >> seth: are the dog and the child getting along? >> i mean, yeah. [ laughter ] she loves him so much. and he -- tolerates her. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> so much. >> seth: this looks like a dog that's tolerating [ bleep ]. [ laughter ] >> yeah, he's really cool around her. he plays it cool. he hasn't licked her yet. yeah, it's going to be fine. in, like, ten years, they're going love each other. >> seth: that's great. [ laughter ] >> and, you know, until then it's fine, i'll just have another kid.
>> seth: and has your -- be honest, has your love for finn waned even an inch? >> no, i love them the same amount. >> seth: okay, good. [ laughter ] >> they are -- he's got his stuff that i love. she's got her stuff. it's -- yeah, no. they all say that. they're like, you're going to forget about your dog, but i haven't. he's very much -- >> seth: a big part of your life still. >> he's very much my first born. >> seth: that's good. that's very sweet. we do say that about our dog, as well. >> you do? yeah, of course. >> seth: that it's our first born. and people think we're weird. yeah. [ laughter ] >> it's not weird. they teach you how to parent. i think it's important. >> seth: i do think they do teach you how to parent. >> yeah. >> seth: i agree. and i just wish we could put some food in a bowl in the morning and be done with our kids the same way. [ laughter ] >> i know, there's a lot of perks. >> seth: yeah, there's a lot of perks. >> to just having pets. >> to this species figured out a lot stuff. >> yeah. >> seth: we saw you doing some dancing in the film. >> yep. >> obviously you've had to dance a lot in the first one, as well. would you classify yourself as a good dancer? >> no. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] >> i wanted to be, but it's really hard. >> seth: yeah. >> it's a hard thing to do. >> seth: and i would imagine, you know, obviously you have the cast and one of the big things you're choosing with your cast is how good of actors they are,
but everybody else in the movie they cast to be good dancers. so, is it hard for you to be around professional dancers? >> yeah, because they've got it all right. >> seth: yeah. >> like, the timing is all about me getting my lines, me getting the moves right, and the music, you know, doesn't stop. and so it's all on me to get it right because they're all professionals, and they're doing it perfectly. they gave me a lot less dancing, by the way. >> seth: oh, second movie. >> to be fair. on this movie. >> seth: oh, interesting. >> they've -- you know. >> seth: did you take that as a -- them having watched the first one a couple of times? [ laughter ] >> it's -- yeah, i take it as them knowing that i'm probably never going to get it right. [ laughter ] which is absolutely fine -- >> seth: are there other -- is there other people in the cast that are sort of on your level as far as how good a dancer? >> yeah, i don't think -- i don't think pierce is, you know, a dancer. he's an actor. >> seth: yeah. >> i would say the same about stellan. colin, for sure doesn't -- [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> enjoy it. >> seth: cher is in the film. >> yeah. >> seth: cher plays your grandmother. what is it like to just even be in cher's aura? >> oh, god. [ laughter ] it's a dream. i cried when i found out she was going to play my grandmother. >> seth: uh-huh.
>> and when she came on set she was just like -- just so cool. she's so cool. she's like a young woman, just kind of, you know -- she was kind of intimidated by us. >> seth: uh-huh. >> like, and we were intimidated by her, and then she came on set, and we saw her fear, and i think she -- we could all relate to each other. it's like we're all humans at the end of the day, but god, she's cool. >> seth: yeah. >> but she's cher. but god, she's so cool. >> seth: mm-hmm. [ laughter ] >> but she's cher. >> seth: right. yeah. >> how's she -- she's -- i can't get over it. >> seth: no matter how cool, she can't be so cool that she stops being cher. that's, like -- >> that's true. [ laughter ] >> seth: that's the paradox of her life. >> maybe that's what makes her cher? >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] she can't escape it. >> maybe that's what makes her cher. [ laughter ] she's so cool! >> seth: i feel like if this was "mamma mia!" right now, you and i would break into song. >> i would! [ laughter ] ♪ maybe that's why [ laughter ] ♪ she's cher >> but we don't have music. >> seth: we don't -- we don't need to do that. >> i don't know. i would, though, for you. >> seth: you -- after the first film -- >> right. >> seth: you and some of your co-stars, you got matching tattoos.
>> yeah. >> seth: so this was to sort of celebrate the film. >> yeah. >> seth: and i guess to some degree, like, the sisterhood, you guys got to be really close. >> oh, we're best friends. >> seth: that's great. >> my girlfriends, rachel and ashley. yeah, we got "minge" tattooed on our feet. >> seth: all right, so "minge." what -- can you tell us why "minge" and what that means >> well, it's a term of endearment. >> seth: uh-huh. >> and in england it means "vagina." >> seth: okay. >> but -- [ laughter ] but in the u.s., i mean, is where i spend most of my time. it just doesn't mean anything. [ laughter ] so i -- we commemorated our friendship with "minge" tattoos. >> seth: that's very, very beautiful. and do people -- do people in england, are they surprised that you have a "minge" tattoo? >> they just -- they roll their eyes. >> seth: yeah. >> because it's always a judgement. >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] >> which is fine. it's fine. because means so much more to me than "vagina." >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: but if you -- be honest, if you were in new york and you were sitting next to -- outdoor café next to like a british person who had sandals on, and it said "vagina" on her foot would you react? >> i'd be like, i'm in america. [ laughter ] take your judgements back to the other side. sorry. >> seth: this is, obviously, a very different movie than "mamma mia!," which is such
wonderful escapism i feel like at a time we most need it. >> yes. >> seth: and it's just pure fun and joy. you're also in a fantastic independent film this year called "first reformed." >> yes. >> seth: with ethan hawke. >> yes. >> seth: which i -- i think i was on indiewire, and said it's maybe the best independent movie of the year so far. >> i agree. >> seth: oh, good. [ laughter ] >> not because i'm in it. >> seth: but, obviously, it must be interesting to do a film -- i mean that is a film that's obviously a much smaller budget than something like "mamma mia!" and is it -- it must be so rewarding to hear great things about that, as well. >> oh, it's so good. i prefer indies because there's so much freedom. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> and, you know, there's a lot of depth. not that we didn't have that this time in "mamma mia!" but i prefer them, but usually there's just no money. so there's, you know, very little. we're doing it for the love of it, of the story or whatever. and, yeah, just to see that people are liking it. much like abba. >> seth: people say "first reformed," "mamma mia!" the worst double feature of the year, if you see both together. >> i think it's the best double feature of the year. >> seth: yeah, exactly. [ laughter ] >> this really is a mind -- >> seth: i think, though, maybe "first reformed," first and then mamma mia!" to get you out of it. right? >> yeah.
>> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> it's like -- it's like taking a downer and taking an upper. >> seth: okay, great! [ laughter ] >> and then -- and then, you know, maybe a cycle. maybe you go back and see them both again. >> seth: yeah. >> but i'm really proud of them both. and also i was pregnant with my daughter in the first one. >> seth: oh, wow! >> and then i had my daughter and then i did "mamma mia!" so they're both very, very dear to me in that way, too. >> seth: well, congratulations -- >> thanks! >> seth: on a really exciting year. >> it's a great year! >> seth: yeah, it is a great year. and it's always so nice to see you. thanks so much for being here. >> thanks for having me. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: amanda seyfried, everybody. "mamma mia! here we go again" is in theaters tomorrow. we'll be right back with katy tur. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ music playing ♪ ♪ ♪
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katy tur, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ >> seth: hi. >> hi, thanks for having me back. >> seth: oh my god, thanks for being back. you've done two separate hours on msnbc today, so we can't believe you're making more time for us. thank you for being the hardest working person in the building this afternoon. >> i took some steroids to get my voice back. >> seth: okay good. >> so, that's the good news. >> seth: that's the biggest fear for someone like you, you have to talk a lot. >> you do. >> seth: i'm glad you have it back. i want to ask about this, because one of the things that happened this week, we all remember famously july 27th, 2016, donald trump said if, "russia, if you're out there listening, i'd love to see hillary clinton's e-mails." basically invited them to hack her server. and it came up this week that robert mueller basically said, that day they tried. >> yes. >> seth: so you confronted him
at the rally that day about his comments. >> yeah. >> seth: what was it that he said to you? >> it was -- by the way, it was the weirdest, one of the weirdest moments in what was a very weird campaign. >> seth: be careful with that. >> i know, i know. there were a lot of -- now i'm thinking back, and there were a lot. >> seth: yeah. >> but this one was particularly weird. we were in the middle of one of his golf courses, we're in a ballroom, this very gaudy ballroom with this patterned carpet. >> seth: he has a -- all right. >> yeah, i'm just gonna say it. [ laughter ] it was a little over decorated. fine. it was also really freezing in there. it's like he was trying to freeze us, or send us to siberia. >> seth: okay, got you. >> and he comes out, it's the middle of the democratic national convention. usually presidents, or presidential candidates go dark when they're not having their convention, but he wants the attention, and there had been some rumors about hacking, the dnc had been hacked, some emails came out, it was very embarrassing for the dnc, and there was talk about maybe it being russia. nothing had been confirmed yet. it was all kind of bubbling out there. donald trump comes out and starts talking about russia all
of a sudden, and how everybody thinks that russia is hacking. they're not hacking. and oh, by the way, i want to see those emails. and i remember sitting there and thinking, "what? did donald trump just ask a foreign government to hack into hillary clinton's emails? did that just happen?" that's even weird by donald trump's standards. >> seth: sure. >> and i remember thinking i got to ask this guy about it, and at this time, he kind of hates me, so he's not letting me ask questions, and the next couple questions that came out were about something else, about the economy or something just totally not on the topic of russia. i remember thinking, well maybe i'm the crazy person. maybe that's a totally normal thing, and that's just part of politics, and i'm naive. but eventually, i decide that no, it's a big question and, i've got to get his attention. so i'm waving my arm frantically, and he's not calling on me. and so i go back to my tried and true strategy, which is to flatter him in order to get him to pay attention to me. and so i said, "your poll numbers are really great!" and he turns and looks at me and he says, "katy!
[ laughter and applause ] katy, is that you? are you wearing a disguise? oh, no, that is you." i said "yes, your poll numbers are great. let me ask you about russia. does it not give you pause to ask a foreign government to hack into the election?" he doesn't even let me finish the sentence. "no, it does not give me pause. what should give you pause is hillary clinton and her missing emails." and i said, "hold on, hold on, hold on. you are asking a foreign government to meddle." and he's like, "you're just trying to save her." and i said, "no, you're asking a foreign government to meddle." and he keeps steamrolling over me and he at the end of it says, "no, i would really like to see those emails." so that was a huge day. this is an american presidential candidate asking for help from a foreign government. doing it very blatantly. it was very weird. but then the campaign continues on. and he says a whole bunch of other totally crazy things. >> seth: yeah. >> and the intelligence community -- [ light laughter ] >> seth: yeah, we just have to like -- then we just throw stuff away.
we don't have room in there. >> everything gets totally buried by the next controversy, which is what actually ended up really helping him, because you couldn't focus on just one thing. and a lot of folks asked, "well why didn't you press that harder?" we had no indication whatsoever from anybody in the intelligence community. peter strzok wasn't texting any of us and saying, "hey, i got this information on donald trump." we had no idea. the only hint we had to it was that press release that came out on october 7th, which was also the day that donald trump -- well the tape came out when donald trump was bragging about grabbing women by certain parts. >> seth: yeah. no memory. no memory of that. [ light laughter ] >> so that got buried. that got buried. and it was only a press release that said russia wanted to meddle. it had nothing to do with donald trump's campaign. fast forward to today, and oh my god, that date is so significant. we had it come out in the indictment that russia -- that mueller put out on friday, saying july 27th, the day donald trump said "russia, if you're listening," that is the day that the conspirators in the indictment, these 12 russians
started for the first time, and it says it in the indictment, for the first time, tried to get into hillary clinton's emails and server. >> seth: you know, it seems like one of the many theories as to why trump behaved the way he did at the press conference was that any admission of meddling by russia delegitimizes his win. based on your covering him, do you think there's any weight to that theory. >> i think there's a lot of weight to that theory. i think he can't decouple it. he sees any indication or any hint that russia helped him will put an asterisk by his name, and he doesn't want an asterisk by his name. he wants his name to be bolder, and a little bit bigger font than everybody else. >> seth: right. >> and i think he also knows that whether he coordinated, or colluded, or knew about it, or not, he knows that those emails helped him. >> seth: both your parents were reporters, as well. >> yeah. >> seth: this was in your dna. but they were in los angeles, they were helicopter reporters. >> they were much cooler than me. >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: would you actually see helicopters when you were a kid and be like, "oh that's one of -- my parents are up there?"
>> so, when i wasn't in a helicopter, i would see them above. my parents, they worked a ton. it's the news business, it's crazy. and so they would miss things like baseball games, or basketball games, whatever thing i had after school. and so their way of making up for it was to hover above the baseball field. [ laughter ] when i was like 11. and i'm very -- i have a face full of acne. i'm very awkward. i wore t-shirts down to my knees and i don't want to be noticed and my parents meanwhile are hovering in a helicopter, saying "go katy tur. hit a home run!" >> seth: that is a nightmare. >> it was horrible. >> seth: yeah. >> it was mortifying. >> seth: but you -- >> but there's a really good story about that. >> seth: great. >> can i tell you this one other one? >> seth: please. >> so, i'm a self-involved preteen, and i go to school in the palisades, in brentwood actually, and i see my parents hovering over head, and i think, "god damn it, why won't they leave me alone?" and i go hide. i hide because i don't want them to see me on the playground when i'm in sixth grade.
and i'm furious about it. i get home, and i start yelling at my mom. "how dare you, how dare you hover over my school? that is my school. you got to give me some privacy." my mom is like, "katy tur, we were over o.j.'s house!" [ laughter ] o.j. lived down the street from my school. i was totally self-absorbed. i thought they were paying attention to me, and it was o.j. >> seth: well i remember during the bronco chase being like, "that's katy tur." [ applause ] thanks for being here. thanks for doing triple duty. >> thanks for having me. >> seth: always such a pleasure. [ cheers and applause ] can't wait to read this in paperback. katy tur. you can see her 2:00 pm weekdays on msnbc. her book "unbelievable" is in paperback august 28th. we'll be right back with music from brandi carlile. [ cheers and applause ] ♪
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