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>> announcer: this sunday -- waiting for mueller. >> the washington waiting game goes on. >> we're waiting for the mueller report. >> they're waiting for robert mueller's report. >> with robert mueller said to be wrapping up still so many unanswered questions. what did president trump know about the infamous trump tower meeting? was there coordination between the trump campaign and russia? most of all, why does it seem the president doesn't want to get to the bottom of what russia did? we'll break it all down with neal katyal. acting solicitor general. sol wisenberg. democrat jim himes.
and arkansas governor asa humpenson. also, that coast guard lieutenant charged with plotting to kill democratic politicians and journalists. >> the sheer number and force of the weapons recovered from mr. hassen's residence, coupled with the disturbing nature of his writings appear to reflect a significant threat to the safety of our community. >> how widespread is this kind of violent white nationalism? and why did the government stay quiet about the arrest? my guest this morning, former homeland security secretary jeh johnson. and off and running -- >> our campaign is about transforming our country. >> bernie is back. democrats are out in force in the early voting states. we're already seeing surprises. joining me andrea mitchell. republican strategist al carden
j as. and loneh chen. . >> announcer: from nbc news in washington. this is mp"meet the press" with chuck todd. we'll look today what to expect when you're expecting -- the mueller report. from the moment he was appointed, washington existed in a political limbo. the white house has been working overtime to discredit the investigation why while democrats are dreaming of a watergate-type gotcha moment. this reminded us of the hurricane projection maps. and anything from catastrophic the benign. we decided to track mueller report projections. many democrats are hoping it's a cap goir 5 whopper. a direct hit on washington, d.c. taking down president trump and spawning more storms and tornadoes that impact other trump confidants.
another is that hurricane neweler sideswipes and hits favorite avenue damaging only trump's foundation and business empire. and the model that republicans are hoping for. the dun of a storm. leaving democrats wet and embarrassed. no matter what we know that the report will not be turned over this week. when the report is made available in some form to the public the question is how many of our unanswered questions will finally be answered. >> what do you expect? >> i guess, from what i understand, that will be totally up to the attorney general. >> reporter: the russia probe led to indipts of 34 individuals and produced six guilty pleas. as the nation waits for robert mueller to deliver his report, a host of xwes remain. including a number of known unknowns. among them, question one, what
did mr. trump know about the june 2016 trump tower meeting with the russians connected to the kremlin? and when did he know it? >> when did you learn about the don jr. meeting? >> reporter: question two why did paul manafort share polling data with russian con stan teen clim neck. >> here is the campaign champl meeting with someone associated with russian intelligence. offering polling data. >> did you know that paul manafort was sharing polling data from your campaign with the russian? >> no. i didn't know anything about it. . >> reporter: was president trump compromised by his business dealingsy russia? his former lawyer and fixer michael cohen facing jail in just over two months, has been providing information to federal prosecutors about the trump organization. and will testify before three
congressional committees this week. >> the man doesn't tell the truth. it's sad. that i should take responsibility for his dirty deeds. >> reporter: question four. who direct michael flynn's contacts with former russian ambassador sergei kislyak? why did flynn lie about the don ver sagss? what did mr. trump know about them? >> some people say he lied. some people say he didn't lie. i mean really, it turned out maybe he didn't lie. >> reporter: who at the trump campaign directed roger stone to get information about upcoming wickly leaks disclosures in the clinton campaign? and did anyone help wikileaks curate the e-mails. >> russia, if you're listening i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> reporter: and there are more questions. will anyone else be charge sthd will president trump be
subpoenaed? why has the president obfuscated attacked, and misdirected if he has nothing to hide? why doesn't the president want to get to the bottom of what russia did? and finally, the biggest question of all, was there quote, collusion, a conspiracy between the trump campaign and russia. >> there was with with though collusion. there was no obstruction. there was no anything. so that's the nice part. there was no phone calls. >> reporter: the president's lawyer has been less definitive. >> i never said there was no collusion between the campaign or people in the campaign. >> yes you have. >> i have not. i said the president of the united states. >> joining me now, neal katyal and sol wisenberg. welcome to both of you. all right. you're my counselors for this. neal, let me start with you. we have a lot of open threads here. what -- what is mueller potentially could still do that the president should be concerned about before submitting this report? >> mueller can do a lot.
he's done some things. we know he's indicted 37 people and 199 different counts including trump's inner sirkle. people like michael flynn, paul manafort. his campaign manager. michael cohen, his personal lawyer. so if this is a witch hunt, mueller's found a koechbcoven at this point. there are smaller ones, like jerome kor si. and bigger erger fish, as well. and then you have questions about what's the report going to say? >> and i want to get to that. sol, rudy giuliani said he hasn't heard from him -- the special counsel's office now, in about a month since they turned in the answers of their question. the lack of communication. should that make the president nervous? >> i think it should make him nervous. but in answer to one of your questions to neal, i think that -- it's difficult for me to
imagine that let's take donald trump jr. if mueller was going to indict donald trump jr., it's difficult for me to imagine that he would wait until after a report was filed to do that. so -- i think -- once that report is filed you know -- there won't be any more indictments from mueller's shot. as opposed to southern district of new york. >> that's a different story? >> that's a different story. a lot of people have been indicted and pled guilty. but given mueller's original charge, there is no american citizen living here nobody associated with the trump campaign, that's been indicted for criminally conspiring with the russian with respect to the campaign. >> i want to reinforce. if mueller is going to have more indictments, they'll come before this report? lying to congress that would come before the report? >> they would be returned.
whether or not they'll be revealed, i don't know. >> gotcha. neal, the big election conspiracy. to be charged. if he was going charge a giant election conspiracy would we have seen it already or will it be the grand finale? >> it could be coming. mueller might do the setup piece for it. but look. we already have some of that information. mueller has indicted roger stone for conspiring with wikileaks. he indicted papadopoulos for lying about meeting with russian agents before the e-mail scandal became known in april 2016. we're seeing the outlines of a mueller report that looks like he's alleging some sort of conspiracy. i disagree with my friend, sol, here, when he says oh, there's nothing in these indictments about a russian collusion, russian conspiracy. there is. >> there are things in the indictment. but, nobody has been indicted for actually conspiring with the
russians to violate the criminal law in connection with the investigation. they've been indicted for obstruction of justice. witness tampering. a lot of it relates to questions about the russians. that's something everybody should be concerned about and wonder about. but, in terms of his origin until charge.original charge. i'm not saying it won't happen. >> does obstruction prove the collusion? >> it sure comes close. it's a thin read to say you've been indicted about obstruction of justice relating to the russian collusion and not the collusion itself. anyone in law enforcement knows these are really crucial crimes because it obscures the search for the truth. look at manafort and how much he's been lying and delaying. >> how much should we interpret obstruction as that might be evidence of collusion? >> i don't denigrate it at all. i think it's serious.
i think you should wonder why people lie. it's an interesting feature of this administration that a lot of people connected with it lie when there's though apparent reason to lie. look at michael flynn. he had already told people in the -- administration, he was going to talk to the russians in the transition period. >> and he apparently told andy mccabe he knew they were listening. >> he reads a story in "the washington post" saying he's under investigation for the logan act and tells something allegedly untrue to vice president pence and lies to the government about it. why? it's a big mystery why some of the people did lie. but yes, we should absolutely be concerned. >> i want to talk about the report. neal, you wrote the regulations about these reports. mueller's report to barr. here's what i says in the regulation. at the conclusion of 2 special counsel's work he or she shad provide the attorney general with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or deck lynn nation decisions by
the special counsel. what was your intent? >> it was that it would be law enforcement sensitive material in there. you wanted the report to be confidential. however, when you're dealing with potential wrong doing by the president of the united states, if mueller finds information out that says this, absolutely the attorney general here barr, has the discretion to turn the report over the congress. public confidence in the administration of justice. and any sorlt of suppressed report of presidential wrong doing will flunk that test. >> let me read part two. it's barr to congress. it says this, the attorney general will notify the chairman and ranking minority member of the judiciary committees of each house of congress with an explanation upon colon collusion of the special counsel's investigation. that could be anything. how do you think bill barr will interpret that? >> it's an interesting conflict
potentially between the plain language of the regulations and the intent of the framer here. who sees a little more in it than the plain language. i think barr has great discretion. he's already said. i'm going to reveal as much a's can. one of the interesting questions is, how will mueller present his report to barr. mueller, in my opinion will do a very thorough report. he can do it in a way if he wants to that makes it easy e for barr to release it to the public. >> will we see bob barr testifytestify in front of congress? >> i think so. there are protections like grand jury materials and sources and the like. we're in a different world than when the regulations where
written because the republicans have pierced all that stuff. there will be a lot more pressure on mueller to give all of the information to congress. >> and sol, what does bill barr do when the president says he wants to read the report? >> i think it's perfectly fine for the president to read the report. >> before congress or anybody else sees it? >> i don't see a problem with that. the problem is if the president orders barr to do or not to do something about the report. i don't think barr will stand for that. >> sol, neal, thank you so much. it is possible, of course, that the mueller investigation could lead to impeachment proceedings. 20 years ago, after president bill clinton was impeechd arkansas republican asa hutchinson was a houseman aernlg and presented an obstruction of@,v- c1m8mkke5 case to the entire united states senate. >> it's simply any corrupt act or attempt to impede the proper
functions of our system of justice. it's a criminal offense. a felony. and it has historically been an impeachable offense. the obstruction of justice is of great consequence and significance to the integrity of our nation when committed by anyone. but particularly by the chief executive of our land, the president of the united states. >> well joining me now is asa hutchinson. who is now the governor of arkansas. and a former member of congress. and from stamford connecticut, jim himes, who sits on the house intelligence committee. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> governor, let me start with you. obstruction of justice, is that is among the chief charges against president trump that was something that -- you brought -- to the united states senate against then-president bill clinton. how serious is an obstruction of justice charge against the
president of the united states? >> it's very serious. that's one of the reasons we pursued it back in president clinton's impeachment trial. it's a very high bar. as that was presented there was not sufficient vote in the senate to convict on that. and the american public looks at any charge against the president of the united states with great scrutiny, as they should. so it's a very high bar. in this instance, i think that is probably one of the most interesting aspects of the anticipated mueller report as to what form it would be in. you have to remember thatters first of all, kenneth starr in his independent counsel review four-year investigation. that was pree seed by robert fisk. this was two years. will there be specific i'mization of crimes? that was the outline with kenneth starr. i don't an miss pate that happening.
that will guide and direct congress. >> congressman manman himes what are you looking for from this report? and is it -- is it an automatic that we'll see at least an inquiry into impeachment? >> i'm looking for a report that gets to the truth and gets out there. and this is very important. you said in the preface of your show, democrats are hoping for this republicans are looking for that. it's a political world. i think people have their hopes. more than anything else, you know, the question of the russian interference and the possibility of collusion by the president and his people has twisted our politics into something unrecognizable for the last two years. including behavior on the part of the president attacking the fbi, attacking bob mueller. everything about this has become political. way to end that is for the truth to be out there. if that truth indicates that
president trump commit nod crime, impeachable or otherwise, so be it. if it indicates he did, it's a much more complicated world. first and foremost, given that weave we've been on the edge of our seats, everyone in the country needs to know what happened. and then we decide where to take it from there. >> governor, you said something interesting. you said you lamented the fact that there was -- you couldn't figure out a way to make the impeachment proceedings in the late 1990s more bipartisan. on the one hand, you think, of course you couldn't. you couldn't get bipartisan cooperation for the mechanics of it. all right how do you convince your fellow republicans today that that was a mistake that democrats made with you. don't make the same mistake if democrats go down this road? >> first of all, you have to try. and that's a big part of it. you have to have conversations as to how should this be approached in a bipartisan way?
how to deal with the mueller report? in terms of what should be disclose snd the timing? as well as what's the next steps? it depends on what is there. and again, this could be a simply a report. that does not outline in offenses against the president of the united states. then you're going to wind up having investigations by different committees. it will wind up partisan. which is a disappointment. but i think you first have to try to say let's communicate. what is the right thing to do here? what can be done in a bipartisan way? >> congressman himes. the house intelligence committee to me has proven difficult to find bipartisan cooperation. is there anything that's changed in the intel committee since the chairmanships changed? >> one obvious answer to that question is that the chairman is
no longer erer devin nunes. very on, he sort of turned over his activities to being the defense of the president. and devin is part of that group. it's not a huge group. but part of the group in the congress that is fully dedicated, facts be damned at protecting the president. we need to try to make this bipartisan in how we approach whatever comes out. it's more important today than ever. because, of course today, facts are disputed. i remember the clinton situation in the '90s. there wasn't a lot of dispute about the facts. now, each and every fact is disputed. we're going to git a feel for the partisan warping of our system this week because there will be a resolution in front of the house saying that the president's emergency declaration, sthat decision to spend money contrary to the will of the congress is not constitutional.
and it's going to be quite a spectacle. a lot of the republicans in the owe what administration who called him a king and a dictator and the pen in the phone wud such a startling damage lg thing to our constitution i suspect are going to vote to not hold president trump for going around the constitution on his issue of the wall. >> i have two final questions. michael cohen will testify in front of your committee this week. what are you looking for from him? >> well, you know michael cohen is going to jail for lying to my committee. step one is to re-ask him the questions that he felt he needed to lie to us about when he testified in the last congress. so we're going to want to get to the truth. allow him to correct the record. and then the question is now that we know the truth what are the followups? it will be an interesting week. he'll appear in my committee after he appears publicly in the oversight committee. we'll have an opportunity to ask
followup questions. there's always a question about whether he feared retribution for his testimony. i don't think he'll say a lot that is classified. he may have some things that he doesn't feel comfortable saying publicly that he then wants to say either to the senate or the house intelligence committees in closed session. >> governor, i want to ask you a question. governor larry hogan has lamented that the rnc seems to be rigging the rules to even prevent a challenge opinion a republican primary challenge to the sitting president. do you think the rnc should let the chips fall where they may? >> well, this is president trump's rnc in the sense that hi appoints the chairman. so obviously, there is something that is pro the white house and the administration. but, obviously, in our system of democracy and in our party. anybody's free to make the challenge. sometimes it's a more difficult
environment than others. in this case, with president trump's record with what he's accomplished, it would be very difficult for someone to mount a successful challenge at this point. >> there's a debate in your party. >> you're always going to have a debate. like i said there's people who criticize president trump because we don't like his style. you don't win campaigns on style. i mean, you might win. but in terms of challenging incumbent, it's about policy and what you've accomplished. what he's done in terms of increased border security and the court. deregulate more authority to the governors in terms of de-emphasizing north korea is a problem. he's had tremendous success. and so, that's the record he would present. it would be difficult to challenge that. >> thank you both for coming by. >> thank you. >> and sharing your views. congressman jim himes, we'll
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i would say the government is pretty much done with paul manafort. mueller's report, or whatever version the pick cease lrks be an important document. whenever it emerges. it needn't change anything about the basic story. you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. you don't need a special counsel's report to know what kind of president trump is. >> people in this environment have made up their minds. people will argue it the way we think they will. republicans will argue it their way. democrats will argue it their way. the 2020 kantdcandidates will look at it their way. at the end of the day, it's a political document more than anything else. >> it's also a historical document, what am i going to tell my children about this period of time? if we just think about what the talking heads and politicians are going to say right now, i think we're doing a disservice
to the long course of history of this country. this is an amazing amount of abuse of power. lies from left and right. of the administration. and the campaign. we have to have a long view of the reckoning we have to take after the mueller report after this administration is over. >> i think the following. a lot of -- a lot of important people in this country's tweets posted heretofore will not bode well. i think the mueller investigation has done not a lot of good to the country. opened up other resources. dealing with that. a lot of people who are bad people surrounding the president of the united states have been indicted or convicted. i will say this. i don't think the president will be indicted. i have made up my mind on that when they agreed to answer in writing. a lot of important questions. that the mueller investigation
sent them. you don't normally do that if you feel like you're in serious threat of an investigation. lastly i think the mueller report will end with unfinished business. campaign violations opposition research that stone and others got. there will be a lot to look into. i couldn't agree more with heather. this will be a bar set where people will compare conduct in the future with what happened. >> i think the real question is, how serious is obstruction of justice to members of congress? that's what i think we're going to find out. >> and perjury. these are not process infractions. this goes to the heart of the criminal justice system. i agree with heather. we have let people normalize criminal behavior and bad behavior and abnormal behavior through tweets, through branding. these are experts on branding.
as neal katyal said, if this is a witch hunt, they've found a coven so far. this cannot be let to stand. i woulz caution that going forward in 2020 we don't know what impulses now in social media are being programmed from moscow. and we have seen the forensics of what happened in 2016. and i see a lot of things going viral. i'm no so us issuspicious about anything i'm reading. >> why aren't the americans more suspicious? he never says, i'm looking forward to the special counsel's report. >> i think it comes back to the politics. given the president has a 90% approval rating with republican voters i think most republicans feel like questioning the president puts them at odds with their base. and it puts them at odds to
someone with a powerful microphone. >> is there something more sinister here? does it come back the putin? >> the president not saying directly, i look forward to the report. these are things that raise additional suspicion. >> i think richard nixon publicly claimed he wanted to reports to be published. >> i thing it's a fairly simple political calculus. >> it will not make go away the suspicions about putin, the president, and hi family, no waterhat matter what the report says. >> and why people lie so much? what are they lying about? >> can democrats -- let me ask you this. i've thought about this. will democrats regret if they don't open an impeachment investigation? >> if we can have bill clinton impeached for obstruction of justice about a sexual affair
these are things that could amount to treason against the united states. certainly a conspiracy. it's just, and democrats are often looking at the polls. whether or not it's going to be a winning case in the senate. something any republicans will get on. i think we need to watch mitt romney in utah. utah is a place where donald trump is not very popular. whether or not it succeeds, these are people that took an oath to the constitution. >> what is the unintended consequence if they don't do that? >> aren't they afraid looking back at newt gingrich and what happened, that's the political argument. and that may be trumping everything else. >> and republicans will not fare well by whitewashing this investigation. or taking on mueller. his reputation is impeccable. if he becomes a target that will innuure to our detriment.
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welcome back. on wednesday, we learned that a coast guard lieutenant and a white nationalist had stock piled a lot of weapons to kill as many left is in general, unquote, as he could. it wasn't until friday afternoon, a week after this man's arrest that president trump had tweeted about everything from so-called fake news to the wall to the actor jussie smollett that the president finally commented on this case. and then, only when asked. >> i think it's a shame. yeah. i think it's a very sad thing. a thing like that happens. i've expresed that. but i'm actually getting a very complete briefing in about two hours. >> on do you think you bear any
responsibility for moderating your language when it comes to that? >> no, i don't. i think my language is very nice. >> joining know now is the former homeland security secretary jeh johnson. welcome back to "meet the press." >> thank you for having me chuck. >> the most unusual aspect is that it seemed to take 72 hours before the public knew. maybe you can explain. given gnat it was a coast guard lieutenant, why did it take so long to go public? and why did the government look like it was underplaying this? >> first, chuck i think it's important to note that the coast guard in general is an outstanding military service. i think i know something about the coast guard. i was their civilian oversight. >> it's part of homeland security. not the pentagon. >> there's no deep, dark, violent extremeist group residing in the coast guard. this person was an exception.
there are various reasons why an arrest arrest, a criminal investigation may not come to light right away. i don't have a good explanation why it took 72 hour. i'm glad investigators un uncoverered this individual's writings on his government commuter. and the fact that he's been arrested. so that's the good news story here. hat's off to investigators for uncovering this before anything bad could happen. >> the question i have is how did somebody with this ideology get into the coast guard? number one. stay in the coast guard? number two. and apparently, if he was doing this stuff at his work computer, how did nobody notice? >> first rightly so, when you enlist in the military. you go to a military academy. you go to basic training. we don't ask what is your political leaning? we don't probe political thoughts. the u.s. military. our services should be
apolitical. and for the most part they are. they're apolitical. remarkable professionals. to go down the road of probing people people's views on things is a dangerous road. we need to do a better job of rooting out people who harbor extremist views hat could turn the violence. the good news story is we did, in fact, uncover this individual's plans and hatred before he was able to act on it. >> there's been controversy in the past that homeland security administration that you ran an the one previous to you wanted to identify a rise in hat they thought was domestic threats. white nationalism. in 2016 dhs had 41 employees and a $21 million budget to counter violent extremism. in 2018 it's eight employees and the budget is less than $8 million. >> that's going in the krongwrong
direction. >> they're saying, hey, you're trying to police speech. this is not confronting rad dal islamic situations. >> the mission is not about policing or curbing or discouraging free speech. but building brijs to communities from which terrorist organizations or hate groups might seek to recruit. that was something i spent a lot of time on when i was secretary. it became the center piece of my counterterrorism mission. i was glad that the congress in 2016 actually funded homeland security's efforts to support local organizations in this. for example, a group based in chicago, called life after hate. which works with individuals who have left white supremacist groups. i think that is something we need to rededicate ourselves and focus on more now. >> there was a troubling "new york times" magazine story about this issue of white nationalism. in 2017, there were 65
incidents. roughly 60% were driven by racist, anti-muslim, anti-semi anti-semitic thoughts. there seems to be a threat of white nationalism and law enforcement doesn't know how to tackle it. is that because of the politics? >> i hope not. very definitely, there is a rise in the levels of extremist violent behavior directed not just at people based on race. i think what is new is directed at people perceived to occupy a political ideology list. this lieutenant's personal belongings included the list. much like the pipe bomber that was arrested. and that is new. and -- so -- without policing
speech, without policing thought in a free and open democratic society, traditional law enforcement and in efforts of building bridges in communities needs to continue. this is truly a difficult nut to crack. and the levels of hatred and violence we see are going up. the adl points out anti-semitism is going up now. it has to start at the top. leaders lead. and people really do listen to their leads. and the level of dialogue is deviating downward. the civility of our dialogue is deviating downward such that people like this coast guard lieutenant feel emboldened. >> because the president doesn't condemn this because the president doesn't want to take the lead on this there is not much government can do until he does? >> i think it's incumbent on leadership across the spectrum to lower the levels of our -- or
to raise the levels of our civil discourse, discourage violence. call it out wherever it might exist on the political spectrum. >> i have to ask you quickly. we'll have a vote on whether this is an emergency at the border. some democrats have talked about removing fenning at the border. is it a national emergency? and would you be in favor of seeing less fencing than is there now? >> i am not in favor of seeing less fencing than there is now. i think that we need to continue our efforts at border security. mart border security. smart investments in the use of the tax payers' dollars in border security. i do not believe that it was appropriate for the president to invoke section 2808 of title x. that is intended for a war or national emergency historically overseas. so this is really, in my judgment trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. better to work with congress
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♪ back now with end game. we had an interesting viral video featuring senator dianne feinstein and some activist on the issue of climate. it went viral. let me hoeshow you a clip of what everybody has seen. >> the government is supposed to be for the people and by the people and all for the people. >> you know what is interesting about this group? i have been doing this for 30 years. i know what i'm doing.
you come in here. and you say it has to be my way or the highway. i don't respond to that. >> yeah. it was kind of awkward, right? well -- not comfortable. but -- here's some portions of what you did not see. >> okay. i'll tell you what. we have our own green new deal piece of legislation. i will give you a copy of what we do support. and you can take a look at it and if you have a problem with it, you can let me know. but, i think it has a much better chance of passing. than what this is. >> i think a lot of people look at that and think, boy, she could have been more -- less tone deaf on how to talk to the kids. and who are the adults using kids to practice politics? the whole thing was uncomfortable? >> very. i think first of all, she is a leader on the subject. so, why didn't they go after
someone who is against climate change? she has legislation? she's saying i don't want to sign on to the new green deal because it's aspirational. i'm working on something real. who are the adults who bring their kids who don't understand this. i understand the passion of this. to ambush a senator this way. and again her political skills were lacking in the way social media relaid this. go after the critics. she's been stalwart on guns on climate change on all the other issues. it shows you the perils of social media. i don't understand this activism. >> this is a great topic to talk about. the children and the sunrise movement started by young people are sleeping outside of mitch mcconnell's office. it's often why are we attacking democrats is what people say.
but they're also -- >> the 80/20. 80% and 20% against. >> they don't post videos though. they haven't posted videos outside mcconnell's office. >> they have. they haven't gone viral. one of the things that is so important is a difference of urgency. for someone who is 7 years old. we just talked about the clinton impeachment like it was yesterday. 20 years from now, all coral reefs will be gone. i'm sorry i'm getting emotional. dianne feinstein has been great. and she's been in office and not had the urgency that is required. this is an emergency in the country. it's an emergency on this planet. there is no higher responsibility of anyone with any kind of political power right now is to stop a global catastrophe that is happening now. >> i agree. but heather she's got legislation she's working on.
>> it's not going to solve the problem. >> is the new green deal going to solve the problem? >> absolutely. the policy platform, if you look at the think tanks that have gone behind it. >> i agree with the hopes. >> it's not a question of hopes. is there going to be reality for our children and their children's children. it's the planet. >> this is the pull of the 2020 democratic primary process. the challenge is you have so many people playing in this lane, in this lane around this green new deal that have endorsed it rg said this is their policy preference, that's a very crowded lane in a 15-person field. if you think about the 15-person field. you have the think about the politics. the pure politics -- it may be until day realize it means they're going to lose their health care. tran poration. everything they care about. >> they're going to lose
national sovereignty? >> i think there is an opportunity for someone like an amy klobuchar. like a joe biden. like a mike bloomberg to say, i think there's a different way to deal with this. >> i don't get to the merits of policy. i can't agree more that we need to focus on climate change. as a father of five children, would have very much resented anybody in the school pound mig kids with propaganda, either left or right as to political issues. teach them civility. the art of listening. the art of developing a -- but not standing in front of an elected official. >> i agree with the policyiespolicies. >> i have to actually get off the air. what a conversation. i don't want to it end. i have to. that's all i have for today. thanks for watching. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." we'll still be debating this. i promise you. thank you for watching.
the president calls for the end of tax break. we'll sit down with the ceo of charge point and dr. mahal leads the way with driverless cars with her radar technology and thin tech what it thinks about the future. our report our reporter amy hall. this week on "press: here." >> good morning, i am scott mcgrew,