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captioning sponsored by cbs dickerson: today on "face the nation" it's down to the wire as campaign 2016 finally comes to a close. >> on this last weekend before election day the end can't come soon enough. the tension stays with us until the end. >> by the way,?r folks, while we're at >> dickerson: donald trump was rushed off the stage by the civil service in reno. >> nobody said it would be easy for us. but we will never be stopped. >> dickerson: and last minute dashes across the?i country to sewer up support in a flurry of final photo ops. last pleas for votes. >> i want to be the president for everybody.
people who don't agree with me. people who vote for me. people who don't vote for me. >> dickerson: and for the democrats a parade of appearance'owith high profile celebrities and musicians. despite the tight polls and jittery supporters, both candidates are trying to stay up beat and keep calm going into tuesday. >> stay on point, donald. stay on point. >> dickerson: we will hear?i tim kaine, and a report from the head of the republican party. plus new battleground tracker numbers for two must win states for donald trump, florida and ohio. we have a update of terror and hacking threats heading into election day and what to look for on tuesday. it's all ahead on "face the nation." >> dickerson: good morning and welcome to "face the nation." i'm john dickerson. two days until election day.
40 million people have casted their ballots. there were long lines in north carolina and ohio as early voting came to a close. our last round of tracker poles before the election show a dead heat in florida where the candidates are tied at 45% of the vote. in ohio donald trump has a 1-point edge for hillary clinton. 46 percent to 45 percent. we din with?r two cbs news correspondents who have folded themsent airplane seats and rental cars across the country to be with both candidates across the way. i want to start with you, major, what happened at the trump rally last night. >> here are the facts, john. they're from the secret skefrbs and reno police. two-thirds through donald trump's speech there was a composition, a protestor set a upon by other trump supporters.
they?r thought they saw a gun. they which is canned trump off stage and the commotion tuned. this protestor said he was set upon by trump supporters he held a sign that said "republicans against trump" he was detai detd and then released. there was no threat to >> dickerson: as if we needed more drama. where is trump positioning himself. he's heading into minnesota and michigan. that's not a traditional play. what is going on? >> they see tightening in both states. they see michigan and minnesota possible hedges for virginia. they have a stop in minnesota. the minnesota event advertised
20,000rsvps. >> dickerson: nancy, what does the clinton campaign make of this. are they worried, she is going and the president are going? >> they are worried. they see the tightening poles and donald trump making a play for michigan. they're not just sending secretary clinton but bill clinton and president obama as well. there are fewer and fewer states that it makes sense to states where they have done the bulk of voting by early voting. she is going to states in the closing days where people vote primarily on election day like here in pennsylvania, new hampshire and michigan. >> dickerson: who is she trying to turn out in pennsylvania is who should we watch for on tuesday? >> she needs to run up the score here in philadelphia, john, and
this is the key to her. en pennsylvania is key to her voting strategy. she needs to win this state. she won't do as well in western pennsylvania. there is a transit strike here in philadelphia. if it takes you long tore get to work you may not fit in a stop at the polling place before. that the campaign insists they have volunteers at the ready to get people to the poles and then to work. without pennsylvania, it's unlikely hillary clinton can win the election. >> dickerson: and donald trump is closing argument, what his final case, major? >> his final case is?? he's a change agent. hillary clinton is ethically disqualified from the presidenci and who meyer the country in count less?r criminal investigations. for the first time the trump circle is saying they will win. they believe they will win pennsylvania and michigan?r closely.
enthusiasm they see in the trump movement. >> dickerson: okay. thank you, major and nancy, for being with us. we go to virginia senator and hillary clinton's?? running mate tim kaine in milwaukee. the trump campaign is feeling they may win with a comfortable margin, how do you see things??6 we take nothing for tkprapb it. we are working hard. we see tremendous?i energy registration requests for absentee ballots and early vote across the country. what we know about the early vote in the?i states that have , wisconsin for example. they set a record in early vote. we're excited about what we see. >> dickerson: you mentioned you thought hillary clinton was the underdog there. how? the name, the money, she has been in politics before, her opponent hasn't. what makes her the underdog. >> i told hillary, i encouraged
we talked about. that she hadn't decided yet. i said no matter what the poles say and what you see in a editorial consider yourself an underdog. if it was easy for a woman to be president of this?i country we would have one. consider yourself the underdog until they call you?r winner. that's what i consider for every race i have ran including in virginia. i'm the underdog until they call that gives me the discipline to do what i need to do until the polls close. >> dickerson: the president will be in michigan. there seems to be a nervousness in the campaign those rust belt states, midwestern states are one traditionally democrat, donald trump is making inroads. are you worried. >> we feed good about where we are but we are taking nothing for granite.
well but making a play there. we want to do the same here. the poles look favorable to us, polls can be wrong. we don't take any for granite. i'm excited to be doing events in three different cities in wisconsin today before heading to north carolina and virginia tomorrow. >> dickerson: a week ago the fbi director released a letter about new e-mails found. there is debate about the effect on the campaign. what effect has that had? is it responsible for the tightening ? >> what we saw, john, was polls tightening before the letter came out. i view that as a natural tightening. excuse me, at the end of a race undecided voters with a democratic or repuck i will can lean tend to go back to their team. we are seeing that happening at the end. i will say one thing we have seen since the letter came out and the director backtracked on it a day later and subsequent
turmoil. we see an add to the energy. people view the campaign important. the stronger together message is important. people don't want it to be distracted. there is an up tick in energy. >> dickerson: has it helped the campaign? >> i wouldn't say -- think at the end of the day it's a net wash. there were some concerns. as more information has com about internal turmoil in the fbi it again rated energy. more than anything i think hillary's point of view is not let's get distracted. we're making our case about a nation that's stronger together and promotes the right view of american leadership in the world. that's what voters want to hear about. we will stay focused on that until the end. >> dickerson: there have been tough things said about the fbi director. can hillary clinton work with
>> i worked with him when i was mayor of richmond. he was head of the criminal division in the eastern district of virginia. we have had a solid working relationship. it has been puzzling and troubling. the decision to release the letter violate two protocols. the protocol of not releasing controversial information on an eve of an election and pending investigations. stories questions why that would happen. those are questions for later. we have to focus on making the case why hillary will be the best president between now and tuesday. that's what we're focusing on. i was in florida here yesterday, a close state here at the end. the energy and responseo( the collision of voters that hillary clinton is putting together. it's a reflection of peoples positive views about her.
>> dickerson: i didn't hear a yes she would be able to work with him. >> that's just -- that assumes something we're not ready to assume. we're not assuming anything about the outcome tuesday. we're focused on doing all we can to do to win on tuesday. then we will think about what happens later. >> dickerson: let me ask you about information out this week. when hillary clinton became secretary of state she said she would let the state department know if a major donation was it turns out a major donation of a million dollars was given by the government of guitar. that wasn't mentioned, why not? >> the agreement was the clinton foundation would alert state department if anyone gave a donation materially different from what they gave before hillary clinton was secretary of state. the government there was a donor
great work around the world before she came skrelt of state. the fact they're a donor is known. they were a donor before she was secretary of state. >> dickerson: this is in keeping with the memorandum of understanding. even though they gave a million dollars to the foundation she felt no obligation to let the ethics of the state department to know. >> they were clear about when notice would be required. that is if a tkpoft decided to significantly different from what they had been doing before. the government there had been giving to the foundation. the tpoufpgs does great work around the world. the different write bigs of aids drut?hr' the united states, the distribution of drugs to battle opiete additions. there was a clear understanding. >> dickerson: thank you, senator kaine, for being with us.
by the chairman of the republican party. welcome back. donald trump is going into democratic states, basically. what do you see there. >> we see probably the same things the clinton campaign sees. we go into the states with consumer data, voter data. a 3000 person sample, i'm sure they do similar things. we see a dead heat. we see it all over the country. there is a lot of surprises here in the end. i was surprised myself. last night we pulled ahead of the democrats in vote count in colorado by 100 ballots. it's not a lot but it's a little bit of a surprise. everyone involved that donald trump is closing with the momentum going into tuesday. >> dickerson: one of the things that happens late in the presidential races is campaigns see a?i state, they think it los
for a reason. they have an electorate that sets up well for the democrats. this happened to mitt romney in pennsylvania. sometime is spent and it's matched. it's time wasted in a state that maybe should be somewhere else. >> he's a different candidate too. it's a different day and different year. i don't think anyone can say 201 has been normal. it's been a wild political year. >> dickerson: yes. >> we have a candidate that appeals to a lot of voters that haven't he appeals to people in the midwest. i'm from wisconsin. i know what it's like to lose factories where i grew up. that's how people feel in michigan. he gives the people?r hope. the other piece is hillary clinton has a heck of a bad narrative cooking up the last ten days. it's playing her campaign. >> dickerson: if michigan and the midwest was such a place that works well for donald trump why not spend more time in michigan and minnesota?
effort then nevada and colorado, that are less likely? >> let me hit that point,?? qui. underground in the operation, get the votes out efforts and all of that. we have massive organizations in michigan and wisconsin twofpl of the best political parties. these are two -- they're very good ob rations. we have spent millions and millions of dollars in. you are also seeing itti and we believe that pennsylvania and michigan, wisconsin could quickly move onto our board. >> dickerson: you mentioned donald trump is a different candidate appealing to different voters. the early vote in nevada and florida he's driving away the voters you talked about attracting after the 2012 election. latinos are coming out heavily
they vote. you can see it's happening from the data. >> dickerson: do you think he will do better with latinos then people think? >> i think he will do better than people think. in florida, today, we are 7000 ballots down. four years ago we were 104 balance on doubts. all of thisxd these are great anecdotes. the clinton campaign can cheri pick all theyan we were four years ago by a mile. we are ahead, we were down in north carolina four years ago and won north carolina. >> dickerson: let me ask you this before people get lost on the numbers. la taoeb owe vote was something that republicans saw they needed to catch up with the future of the country. as this grows doing thing donald trump hurts or helps that
and opportunity report. we have put in millions of dollars -- >> dickerson: the rnc report? >> -- that's right. we didn't show up six months ago. we are in puerto rican communities, cuban communities, hispanic communities. we have been their four years talking about our party and what we believe. in jobs, economy, choice, where you want to go to school, sba >> dickerson: if donald trump doesn't turn out latino voters it's his fault? >> no, first of all we need to give him credit for his attempts. he's going into?i little haiti n miami. we did a round table. he went to detroit,?i cleveland. he's doing well in black communities. he has been talking about school choice and money for small business owners and getting people back to work.
and black voters, white voters. it?i appeals to all of us as americans. >> dickerson: there are times in the race when donald trump has called out the establishment. >> we have our own arguments. dickerson: do you worry if things don't turn out his way on tuesday? all of the work you did with him, he may turn around to blame you. >> it's politics. i don't care. i care about winning. i care about keeping the house and senate and winning the white house. post tuesday i'm not i also think that if, if you would of said two months ago, i think most people, if you're being honest, that we would be here today arguing over michigan and pennsylvania, i think people would of been shocked. here we are. it's a tight race. we will do all we can. we need our voters to get out and vote. >> dickerson: before we leave, we're out of time. we have to finish after the
>> dickerson: we're back now with more insight as to why the race is tightening with anthony salvanto in our new?? york stud. anthony, our last meeting before election day. what do you see with the numbers out of florida and ohio. >> even in florida. he has gotten a few of the previously unsure voters. there weren't a lot to start with. they have moved towards donald trump. one of the reasons, i think, we asked people how?i they saw each candidate relative to the political system. the majority says they feel hillary clinton is what is wrong with politics. now they see trump separate from
right. you can imagine some unsure voters on the fence have moved towards him because of. that whether that's enough to carry into a win we will have to see. it comes down to turn out. >> dickerson: that why he's hammering the change message in the final stretch. in florida the latino voters. clinton campaign enthusiastic. did that show up in the numbers? >> it do they are strongly for hillary?r clinton. she will need that to win. >>if vote, the one cast so far, it looks like an uptick in latino turn out in florida. larger then it?m was in 2012. that's a good sign for her. the tough part for her is what is out there, what is outstanding. looks a little younger then the rest of?i the electorate. that means goat the rest of the collision she needs in florida she needs a strong turn out come
voting in the states, does it look like in your numbers republicans vote for the republicans and democrats for the democrats. >> democrats for democrats and republicans for republicans. one thing bolstering donald trump he has some republicans coming back to him?i now.?i we have followed the story of reluctant republicans and not getting that base. they're starting to come home. he's ticking up with both states. that's moving the needle for him a little bit. >> dickerson: how about tuesday, what do you look for? what do we pay attention to? >> it's the map versus momentum, in some sense. the map favors even if narrowly hillary clinton. you have states reliably democratic. we think they will be in her camp. the trend line some some national poles and the states is
of the democratic states and we will know that fairly early. you will get an early closing in virginia. an 8:00 o'clock eastern closing in places like pennsylvania. those are states that hillary clinton all about has to win. if you see the states tight and competitive they can't be projected early that could be the sign of a good night for donald trump. if hillary clinton hangs on she will do so with the help hispanic voters and the help of? college, college degrees. that's a big part of her collision so far. i?i think you will see a large gender gap. if you don't see that given donald trump's strength with men, that could be a very good sign for him. >> dickerson: okay,?i anthony. see you tuesday night. >> thank you, john. dickerson: we will be back in
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>> dickerson: welcome back to "face the nation." i'm john?? dickerson. u.s. intelligence warn this week about a possible al qaeda terror attacks. how real is the threat? senior news analysi david i g ignatius is here with? more. how serious is this? >> it's important this is corral saisacoreal qaeda. i'm told this?? came after the killing of a key al qaeda operative, an operation planner
afghanistan two weeks ago. his discussion of operations plans is where this begins. it is taken seriously. it's specific. it snakes three states and a time. one reason an official says we're not?i in panic mode about this is core al qaeda is a great distance away. it has a difficulty organizing and is not a top what is the most is the lone wolf, home grown problem. someone with a gun going to a polling place, motivated by all stuff?i on-line. in terms of this threat it was specific and disseminated. the reason officials think it's not a three alarm fire. >> dickerson: the reason is the ability to carry out an operation is degraded the last three years from a stacks of al qaeda. >> this is a key operation
but survived in his conversation with operatives. the question is the ability to carry out the plans. people think that's limited. >> dickerson: fran, what happens on the homeland security end with this operation? what can be done what?i is being done? >> first of all, john, they have a dent phid over a dozen operatives that have been deployed. they have been trained over the course of three yn afghanistan and pakistan region brought back to the united states. as david points out dhs will work with state and local officials, law enforcement. here in new york they have a task force to try to identify investigations where operatives have traveled and may fit the profile to try to disrupt it. >> dickerson: okay, fran. a little laryngitis there. thank you for.
another threat on election day people are worried about is a threat of disruption. a talk about the russians. vice president said the hacked e-mails, the wiki?i leaked e-mas trace back to russia. what is the status of u.s. operations responding to russia and a z)(ruption on election day? >> two top officials. james clamor and jay johnson they were very specific. they said that the most senior level russian officials must have approved the hacking that has been done of democratic officials, hillary clinton's campaign?r chairman. i'm told that since then there was a private warning, i believe by president obama himself to vladimir putin saying any further russian attempts to fear in the u.s. elections would have
i'm told further that officials believe the russians have not escalated attacks. they saoepbl to have gotten the message. people are very careful and watching each event. there is a cyber war room set up for tuesday to monitor any attempt to intrude. i'm told finally that all vyings president biden warned of u.s. repric against russia. >> dickerson: fran, on election day, how may we see disruption from those that want to mess with the election returns? >> you know, john, i think we think about it like the recent attacks we saw. i worry more about a pervasiveness. massive text messages going out
closed to affect voter turn out. think that's insidious and more difficult for officials to react to and detect. >> dickerson: instead of hacking the infrastructure, but more misinformation and different messages. david, i will switch quickly to the?? fbi at the end. the director has come under criticism for his handling of the e-mails. there are leaks from the fbi that are more messy then we hav what do you make? >> first the fbi now is leaky. are you never sure of people who claim to be speaking on be half of fbi agents or speak en to them whether it's true or not. it's a law enforcement agency ii turmoil. that's something everyone should be worried about after the election. if secretary clinton wins on tuesday it's possible she may
additional e-mails on a investigation. it reduces the possibility that you can say later this was suppressd and rigged. it's conceivable. now within the clinton camp the director of the fbi is not their favorite person, obviously. if she wins she can say it's a more stable transition. >> dickerson: thank you, fran and david for being with us. we will be back with our
>> dickerson: we're back with our politics panel. amy walter, john heilemann, jam heel bowie and mark leibovich. john heilemann, what is going?ln in the race right now. >> it's almost over, the blessed day is nearly upon us. what is going on, the races looked tight, tighter than people thought it would be at the end. it's the case hillary clinton has never been behind in the race, not for one day sings the general election started. her lead is small but it's the case the clinton campaign feel more confident about where they were then those with the obama campaign in 2012 felt at this stage in 2012.
that donald trump is behind has few -- electoral votes. they're not over confident but quite confident they will win on tuesday. >> dickerson: amy, what do you make of the donald trump schedule change? was suppose to be in wisconsin now in michigan and in minnesota. is that a crazy last minute genius or a sign of spreading himself too thin? how do you read it. >> going to john's point about feeling like 2012. i feel like we are in a deja vu moment. a time machine and back to 2012. we're talking about the same things we did at this point in 2012. back then can mitt romney win driving up votes among white voters and growing that base. we are litigating that again. we said can mitt romney tip a
democratic hands for years and years, at the last minute with no effort or on the ground work there. in 2012 it was pennsylvania this. year it's michigan. so, we know what the answer was in 2012. this is, it?? looks -- it looks like we're heading down the same path in 2016. i think your point that you raise to reince priebus was the right question. it makes perfect sense that be donald trump's?? targets. if you win with white working class voters only that's where you go. that's where you invest early by finding the voters, registering them, getting them out. not going in with 48 hours to go. >> dickerson: ma'ajamelle,?i rod reagan did get the bigger part
mitt romney didn't win. how do you think this race itself, mitt romney was different then donald trump. donald trump has a better chance turning out those voters. where does this theory play out? is he pulling the skeptics wrong. >> i don't think he is. he's turning out more working class white voters then before. it explains i don't think he's far behind. a large proportion of the electorate and they're doing extraordinarily well. it lifts the ceiling considerably. what it has taken strum to get the voters out repels college educated white voters. hillary clinton is on pace to win college white voters for democrats for the first time since we have kept track of this. on the same token when it takes to write out all of the working class white voters drives
we see hispanic voters turning out at a huge level. so, you know, the idea that there is some pool of working class whites that you can turn out and maybe make up the deficit that romney had. i don't think it's wrong. i don't think people considered the actions with reactions. the things you need to turn those skroete voters out aliena. >> think before you deeply into donald trump's?i travel schedule you have to wonder how sophisticated the polling operation is at all if they have done polling. forget the commitments on the ground. it's unclear who the pollster is. he didn't pay -- there was a back story if he had infrastructure at?i all. as amy said you have to be aware of the sleeper states. michigan and minnesota are the
john mccain. george w. bush was supposedly close in california. it nearly cost him the?i electi. also people are looking too deeply into signs of momentum, crowd that thing. people are engaged this. is the 11th hour. you hope people are engaged. we don't know very much, we will know more in 36 hours. >> dickerson: john, mark brings up the rnc put a lot on the grouped. the rnc is not donald trump. this is about the smartiepants elites and real human beings. >> nobody at this table. dickerson: present company included. one of the challenges of the election is the smart people think they know what is going on. donald trump is successful doing his thing. is that the story of the old fashion question of the -- of
and all you hear that is suppose to make politics a science? maybe donald trump knows something better. >> well, if that's true?i a lotf us have to check a lot of our preconceptions at the door. here is where i don't think it's true. i think it's most important to think about what is going on. michigan and everything else. there are -- we have an election day on tuesday. in some states like michigan election day is election all vote on election day. part of why they're there is there is no early vote in michigan. there is momentum tightening it could play out in michigan. he would win on election day. a lot of the other states they have been voting for weeks or many weeks or many days, right. that's the question of science. where money and infrastructure, get out of the vote operations and the ground game matters. part of the reason the clinton
real, won't have a huge effect because places like florida, north carolina, nevada those places have banked a huge number of votes and in many cases they believe and there is actual statistic information not anecdotal information, that it's true. they have banked the votes that no matter how well donald trump does on election day it won't help out on the gap. >> they're voting to day in big states. ohio, north carolina, florida. this is still, people a today. even as we take the polls we will see a big number out of
message and doesn't get into diversions. those worried about his temperament are coming back home. maybe the teleprompter is helping him. >> maybe. i think there are other forces the past week. beginning with the fbi and the letter. think precedence has been friendly to donald trump. you has had relatively incident free weeks if you want to say that lot is baked into the cake. precedence is a cruel mistress through the campaign. any sort of -- we have been proven wrong. the "smart people around the table" i think that's over rated. i don't claim to be smart. they have been wrong so many steps of the way. donald trump would love nothing
proven the old play book wrong. yes, maybe -- >> dickerson: jamelle, what are you looking for on election day? what are you looking for? >> i will be looking to see what hispanic turn out is looking like in nevada and florida, and north carolina. same with african-american turn out. i -- you know, when the poles start to close i will have my eye on north carolina. i was there the past week. going beten raleigh/durham. that is a tightly contested state. however it ends up on tuesday will tell us how the race will end up that night. >> dickerson: clinton will run up the votes in the cities and hope to hold down the rural areas. how but, john? >> looking to the east coast first. >> dickerson: you're an elitist? >> we get the results earlier. places like nevada, i think with
donald trump already. african americans in north carolina, suburban, philadelphia suburbs. raw numbers in philadelphia. whether clinton can roll up the totals there. that will lock up pennsylvania if she does. i think keep an eye on new hampshire. it's a state she has had a wide, in some cases, lead there. that race has tightened up. if trump it doesn't matter for raw votes but it may show all is not well in battlegrounds. >> dickerson: yes. they maybe the same down the line. even with just four electoral votes. how about you, amy? >> indiana is a big senate race. democrats thought it was in the bag for them. it's tightened and maybe a little behind. this will tell us, not necessarily if democrats have enough to win a majority in the senate but will tell us if they
if the democrats win there it's a sign of a big number of seats that night. >> dickerson: amy, explain when john says nevada maybe done. in 2012 i was struck the obama people -- basically colorado before election day. how can a campaign know they're done? >> ya, well in colorado it's almost all mail-in state. you can show up but 90% is in the mail. they know their voters i colorado. they literally can tell you the number of people who have turned in ballots. they know in the modeling what that means for the vote they will get. same with a place like nevada. you get 60, 70 percent of the vote before election day. this is where michigan, new hampshire and pennsylvania we watch on election night. they vote that day. >> dickerson: mark, what are you looking for on election night. >> obviously east coast states.
around. it would be nice to -- i'm trying not to pay attention to exit poles like we do. there is a recent wave between 3-7:00 p.m. that's blocked off for a nap at this point. yes, we will see. i think north carolina, new hampshire are early indicater states and the time zone advantage. >> dickerson: we don't want to look at the exit poles too early they are sometimes wrong how they work. quickly, there will be a huge chunk of the public unhappy. is that just how it will be? is there anything the victor can do ob election night -- on election night to begin the heel. >> i think the tenor of the campaign specifically on the trump effort, the implications of rigging and the implications of clinton and the clinton
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