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tv   Face the Nation  CBS  October 6, 2014 2:30am-3:01am PDT

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>> schieffer:. >> and welcome back to "face the nation". president obama and israeli prime minister netanyahu's relationship has been the subject of endless speculation over the years, so enwe talked last week in new york, i asked the prime minister how he would describe it. >> how do you describe your relationship with the president? >> actually it is quite good. i have to tell you we had a discussion i don't want to say like an old parried couple but the president says he has had more meetings with me nanny foreign leader. there is a mutual respect, you cut to the chase quickly, you talk about the real things openly, like real allies. i think we have a relationship of mutual respect and mutual appreciation. >> schieffer: well let's talk a little bit about iran. >> what concerns you most about these negotiations that are going on with iran? >> well, from the start, i
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think, i would understand why we should let the world's most dangerous regime which practices terrorism all the time, all the time, i mean, i heard president hamid shed these crocodile tears about the spread of global terrorism he should talk his own people, they are the ones doing it, so this is the greatest terrorist regime in the world, and we don't want them to have the ultimate weapon of terror, which is nuclear weapons. my fear is, that they would get the ability to enrich enough uranium for a bomb in a short amount of time, weeks, months and that is the deal i hope is not signed. and to the extent that you take away the number of centrifuges they will have left it becomes a better deal to the extent you give them thousands of centrifuges that becomes a bad deal, a very bad deal, not only for us and israel but for you
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and i think the peace of the word, you don't want this regime to be able to kick tout inspectors which is what they -- i don't care how good the inspections are, just kick them out, and say okay at the time of our choosing, multiple crises around the world, throw tout inspectors, go and enrich the bomb and you have enough material to make a an atomic device which they can put on a container ship and they can bring it to any port in the world. we don't want to be there and you don't want to be there. >> schieffer: do you, virginia dodd said like every time -- >> well, telling it like it is and basically the president of iran who is not the leader of iran, the real leader of iran is the supreme leader, ayatollah a my any, he is the leader and he makes the decisions he is a dictator leader and he is a good front person, so is their foreign minister but they don't
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make the decisions. they are supposed to smooth talk their way to get basically bamboozling the west to get a daily that lifts the sanctions, the tough sanctions the u.s. has put the place and that leigh them with enough centrifuges to get to the bombing in a very short time. that shouldn't happen. we have seen the smooth talking foreign ministers in the previous century at critical times. that preceded disaster. >> schieffer: as you head home, what most worries you right now? >> i think between east and west there is -- between the great united states that i would never shortchange. i think is the leading power in the world, a powerful country,
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it has reservoirs of strength and enterprise and initiative, that surpass any other, between the united states and the west and the rising powers in the east, i visited china earlier and met with prime minister, these are great australians that are happening that are changing the world, obviously, but inbetween east and west there is a malignancy of militant islam that, whose first victims are muslims, who don't toto the line, tow and cut down brutally, christians, azidis, jews, gays, women, i think that that malignancy and spreading and sending the tentacles to the west. 20 years ago you will see international domestic terrorism because you see them send people to jihadists to live in the west to raise jihad against the west
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and unfortunately that has come about, but the greatest danger that i see from this militant islamists is they will marry their mad ideology to weapons of mass death .. that is a threat not only to my people, the jewish people and the jewish state of israel, but to your people. they view us as one because of our tolerant societies, they think is weak and corrupt. we understand the value of diversity and human freedom and choice. they deplore it. they want to wipe us away. if they had the weapons to wipe us away, they will try. they will fail, ultimately as did the nazis but they took tens of millions of people with them. that should not happen again. >> schieffer: prime minister, thank you so much. >> thank you:thank you, bob. >> schieffer: and we will be right back to talk about the problems plaguing the secret service.
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>> schieffer: and we are back now with maryland's democratic congressman elijah cummings, the ranking member on the oversight committee that heard testimony last week about the secret service and the problems it is having. congressman, thank you so much. >> good to be with you, bob. >> schieffer: is this as bad as it looks from the outside or is it not quite that bad? >> i think it is very bad. and i think there is a culture that has developed, a culture of complacency. we see it with the security breaches, morale is down, and we have had a series of events, bob, that should alarm all americans and certainly the question has become, is this the service secret we all thought it was? and i am beginning to wonder about that. >> schieffer: well, that is it. what is it that is 0, that has gone haywire here? because i am like you, congressman i have
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known people in the secret service sinned the lyndon johnson administration and these are great people who put their lives on the lines, patriots to the core kerr and this thing seems to be coming apart. >> one of the things -- >> i don't think it is necessarily all of a -- all of a sudden, by the way. i think that based upon some information we have gotten from whistle blowers, this goes back a ways. and just the information has not come out. don't get me wrong, the secret service is a great organization, but you have got -- we have got to look at certain things, like training, there has been a reduction in training. again, morale. this whole idea of reduction, with regard to high turnover. things of that nature. and it has led to a group of secret service agents who feel more comfortable, bob, coming to the congress and even going to their own superiors, and it seems as if we have a secrety service that doesn't even trust
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itself and that leads us to a lot of problems. and so ms. pearson, the director, the former director, she was in kind of a tough situation. she came before the congress, she was not completely candid with us and it just seems as if there has been like i said complacency and we see situations going back to 2011 where the white house is shot with $100,000 worth of damage done and we don't know it for four days, there is a problem. >> schieffer: well this whole thing, i mean the white house says somebody didn't lock the door. that's the last thing we do before we turn out the lights. we lock the door. >> this most recent fence jumping incident, there were basically five layers of security that failed, which is ridiculous we also discovered they don't have the kind of technology that they ought to have, the modern technology. so we have got to really -- this
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is -- bob there is a transformational moment we have to look at the secret service and we have to figure this all out and get it right. >> schieffer: and from top to bottom. >> from top to bottom. from top to bottom. let me tell you something. the mere fact that the director has left, believe me, it did not begin with her, and it is not going to end with her leaving. there are still people who probably need to go, and i think that there were some problems -- you have agents that were basically afraid that the information that they wanted to impart to the top person would never get there. they were fearful that, you know, that they would be, there would be retaliation, all kind of things and i never thought that the secret service would have those kind of issues. >> schieffer:, you know, there are these reports, and i know you are aware of them, in the black community that a lot of african americans are worried that the president is not being protected because he is an african-american .. and this wouldn't be the case if he were
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white. >> 85 percent of all african americans have come to me mention what you just said. >> schieffer: really? >> yes. and i don't agree with it, and let me tell you why. again, we have information that this goes all the way back to the bush administration, a lot of the problems we are talking about now. it is just they are coming to light. so a lot of these things existed before president obama, and back to the present situation, the president's people have told me he feels very comfortable, particularly with mr. clancy that is now come in to take over the secret service. so he feels good about it and most importantly the first lady feels very good about it. >> schieffer: well, stay on the case. >> we will. >> schieffer: and come back and tell us when it gets better. >> certainly will. >> schieffer: thank you so much, congressman. we will be back in a minute with a look at how campaign 2014 is shaping up, so stay with us. >> ,,,,,,,,
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>> schieffer: and on face, what would face the nation be without a little political speculation, that's what we will do now, brand-new results from the latest cbs news new york times joint venture, the 2014 battleground tracker. with cbs news director of
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elections, anthony salvanto, jonathan martin, the national political correspondent for "the new york times", cbs news congressional correspondent nancy cordes and cbs news political director john dickerson. well, an think, anthony start us off what is the latest. >> we looked at every state, and republicans keep the lead, 51-49 to retake the senate, if the election were held today, but, bob, there are a couple of twists and turns on the road here, let me tell you about one state in particular, kansas, and in kansas republican incumbent pat roberts found himself in a deadlock race with an independent candidate that is greg orman, now you may expect in this environment somewhere you would see an independent candidate gaining track shun but i don't think kansas is ever a state republicans envisioned having to defend. >> schieffer: could the republicans actually .. retake the senate if they lose kansas? >> yes, they could, the good news for the republicans here, is they still have a lot of
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options, there are a lot of states they can win and they are within striking distance right off the bat, but kansas complicates things because first of all we don't know who greg orman might caucus if he is elected and if there is a lot of layers to this stories including stories within the gop. >> schieffer: nancy you were in in this and covering this race and i want to hear your thoughts on what is going on out there, but tell us what anthony means it depends on where he caucuses, because i think we all know what that means but a lot of people out there may not. >> well, what it means is is he going to work for democrats or republicans if he gets elected and what he told me is that he will caucus with whichever party is in the clear majority. he thinks that that is is in the best interests of kansas, but that is obviously complicated because neither party may have a clear majority at the end of the night. >> schieffer: and it may be both -- [laughter.] >> schieffer: for the first time in the history of the world. but i mean, what that means though, is he will decide whether to vote with the
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republicans or vote with the democrats on how to organize the senate, and that means on who they are going to elect as the leader. >> right. and democrats of course are willing to take enough of a chance on the possibility that he might caucus with them, but they basically push their own candidate out of the race to kind of clear the way for orman to take on pat roberts. >> schieffer: he may wind up, john, as chairman of the foreign relations committee or appropriations. >> great opportunity. >> schieffer: in order to -- >> some good office space, i think in his future. >> schieffer: a good parking space. >> i was in kansas a couple of weeks ago too and it is an unlikely place you would have thought earlier this year could be shaping and controlling the senate was but you have a scenario it is a long time incumbent, pat roberts who did not have a home of his own in kansas, and an environment there where people are tired of washington, and he represents washington in many eyes and here is an wind a fresh face and some
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deep pockets funding his own commercials and saying i am not of washington, i am going to stand up to the rs and the ds now that said kansas historically is a very conservative state and mr. orman is now taking out a lot of negative commercials, so he is seeing if he can hang in through election day but the fact is, this scenario for republicans taking back control of the senate gets a lot harder if they can't keep kansas, it just creates one more seat elsewhere they are going to have to pick up. it is possible, but it makes it harder. >> yes just to look at the map, we know republicans need to take six seats away from the democrats there are three races in which theq. much got that locked in in west virginia, montana and south dakota, that means they need three more seats before kansas became a part of the conversation, now they need four seats out of about seven possible seats that could take away from democrats. that is pretty tough, because all seven of those seats from which republicans could pluck their victories are all tight as a tick. and, again, to go back to what
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this means about having this independent, the majority means the names the chairmen of all the committees in the senate so this is extremely, this is extremely important. talk about some of these other races. >> yes, speaking of tight as a we have a close race but the democrat has now moved ahead in north carolina, kay hagen one of the southern states, three of them the republicans having eyeing as possible pickup opportunities for some time, we have kay hagan in north carolina but in arkansas, the republicans seem to have cemented their hold a little bit for now with tom cotton up ahead of incumbent mark pryor prior, this stay race the republicans have been eyeing for a while too, that makes them a little bit closer to that majority .. and then in louisiana, i think there is a real strong possibility of that going to a runoff, which could further delay knowing who is in control of the senate. >> schieffer: and the reason you have a runoff on election day is because in louisiana they do it differently. >> right. >> schieffer: they just take everybody runs in one election
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and then they take the top two. it is not a -- they don't have partisan primaries there. everybody runs on election. what is going on in georgia? that is another close one. >> well, you have two people who are running who aren't politicians which is a the fun part of that race we don't have that anywhere else and georgia is one of those states that, you know, is one of those battleground states and where the question at the end of the day if we have got seven or eight states that have very, very close on election night we may be looking at saying it was a horrible national year for democrats, the president is not well thought of, the races are being run in red states which is tough for democrats, and the national issues set is all, you know, for everything from the isil threat to the va to the secret service, it is just bad news for democrats. what may help democrats in what to look for in georgia and all of these states are sort of the sandbags on the level i have and that is, levee and that is the turnout operation .. are they finding the democrats and the votes but also finding people who just don't vote in the past
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they have put unprecedented amount of money in all of these states from georgia all the way to alaska, where they are flying planes, landing on the water to find native alaskans to sign up, person by person, that's one thing we will talk about on election night if the democrats hold off this onslaught. >> schieffer: nancy, talk about the women's vote because i know for example in georgia i think that race in my view turns on two things, a large black t turnout. if those two things happen, i think democrats which, if that doesn't happen she will lose but wwe are seeing that across the board. >> if that's right if you want to see how important the women's vote is, look at colorado, that's where w we were last wee, birth control, senator udall is bringing up reproductive rights every chance he gets against his republican opponent, cory gardner because he knows he needs to run up the women's vote, if he is going to win. he won by 15 points am honk
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women, six years ago, he needs to repeat that if he wants to pull it out in this very tight rare, four of his ten ads have been about reproductive rights. there are gender gaps in all of these races but the democrats that is really what is keeping a lot of them close but also it speaks to how the democrats have to maximize the turnout operation because let's face it the midterms are not being won and lost on anybody being awarded for their recent performance, certainly not if you -- >> you can't underestimate how central women voters have become to the democratic coalition and the obama era, this is the campaign for a lot of these candidates, you mentioned colorado, but certainly in north carolina too, it is a very simple matter of math, and if senator hagan can get a certain percentage of the women vote it is almost impossible for republicans to win. >> schieffer: have you noticed anything in your polling, i mean my sense of it based on the polling is people are so kind of turned off by the whole thing there is not nearly as much interest in these -- it is always that way in an off year
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election, but i senseless interest than usual. >> yes, there is. but for the voters who are going to turn out, there is a great deal of enthusiasm on the republican side to vote against the president, and that is what is note straying the republican side and that is why they have this edge right now because they tell us in the polling that they are more enthusiastic than the democrats. and that's the challenge for the democrats, john mentioned their extensive turnout efforts which is important but the fact is organically if you look at the polling, the republicans are just more excited about this election, and while there is no overriding issue that is driving this election, a la iraq from a few years ago or the recession, of '08, the fact is that for a lot of republicans, the issue is president obama himself, and they will show up, because of president obama, harry treed a lesser extent, that is the best thing the republicans have going, look at at the end of president obama's speech in illinois, how many republicans
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grabbed the sound bites saying these issues are on the ballot and put that up on the air immediately, republicans want to make president obama the issue. >> schieffer: well, is there any polling that suggests that more people are going to the polls to vote against president obama than are going to the polls to vote to show support for the president, anthony? >> yes, there are in each of these states. >> we find that the majority say it is more about being against the president, but in particular for the republicans, for the democrats it is about different issues but it is not about the president. >> schieffer: gallup poll has a poll out recently that shows those numbers more people are turning out to vote against the president than for him match the way people knelt advance of the 2010 election as you might remember that was a very bad night for the president and his party. >> and that is also why you don't see the president out on the campaign trail now. democrats say he will make an appearance or two by november 4th but as of right now, they won't tell us where he is going or when, when you do see himn't out on the campaign trail is mitt romney,
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republicans all across the country asking him to come in and vote for them and work for them. >> but, you know, when we were at an event in colorado this past week, mitt romney was treated like a rock star, people were chanting run, it in, run. >> schieffer: i mean, i said early on, it seemed to me like he was sort of testing the waters here and might actually run. will let's just go around the table, do you think he is going to run? >> i am skeptical he does but looking closely at jeb bush and chris christie i talked to him this morning on this issue on the way here, bob and he says if he looks and jeb and chris christie and they aren't running or don't look formidable he may make a late move in which would be a rich turn of events because remember in 2012 romney was played by christie hanging out for all that time, and never got in. >> he knows that and keeps saying the ones most attractive is the one that is not available and that was the problem for him when he was running and now he is benefiting from it one of the
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benefits of having him around, though it keeps obama in the conversation in these races. >> schieffer: all right. well, it is fun to talk about all of in this morning. i am sure we will talk about it some more and we will be right back.
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>> schieffer: we hope you will join us next week when the former secretary of defense leon panetta will join us to tell about his new book, worthy fight. we will see you then. >> ,,,,,,,,,,
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