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captioning funded by cbs and ford. we go further, so you can. >> kroft: you seem very frustrated with the united states. >> i am disillusioned. >> kroft: president erdogan is not the only one in turkey disillusioned with america right now. so are many of his country men. most of the tension can be traced back to july when a faction of the turkish military tried to overthrow erdogan and his government. >> kroft: do you believe that there was any u.s. involvement? >> i'm not going to blame the united states. but that's what my people will think. >> carli lloyd: we feel like we're treated like second class citizens because they don't care as much about us as they do the men. >> o'donnell: carli lloyd is the best female soccer player in the
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world and she plays with a number one team in the world, the u.s. women's. but despite their achievement, the players say they've been discriminated against, paid less and treated worse next to the u.s. men's team. >> o'donnell: do you think you should be paid more than the men's team? >> lloyd: yeah, absolutely. >> o'donnell: why? >> lloyd: we win. we're successful. we should get what we deserve. >> logan: bruno mars may be the hardest working man in show business. and when you hear how he grew up you'll understand why this throwback never takes anything for granted. your house. >> i just really care about what people see. i want them to know that i'm-- i'm working hard for this. the artists that i look up to, like, you know, michael, prince, james brown. they're not phoning it in. they're going up there to murder anybody that performs after them or performs before them.
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>> kroft: when donald trump is sworn in as the 45th president of the united states, he'll be forced to deal with a lot of complicated international issues, especially turkey. it's an indispensable but angry
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nato ally right now, led by an assertive, strong-minded president who you will hear from shortly, recep tayyip erdoan. he's been making noises lately about perhaps going his own way in the middle east, and is being courted by russia. if it sounds byzantine, it should be noted that the word was coined to describe the complicated history and politics of this land. with war raging on two of its borders and inundated with refugees, turkey is right in the middle of things, as it has been for the past 2,000 years. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ its largest city sits astride the bosporus strait, a body of water that separates asia from europe, east from west, and the islamic world from christendom. it was known as byzantium at the time of christ, and
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constantinople in the middle ages, before the ottoman hordes overran the city, converted the cathedrals into grand mosques, and ruled an empire that lasted 600 years. today, istanbul and the republic of turkey still have a foot in both cultures, a muslim population, a western-style democracy and nato's second largest army, in the most dangerous neighborhood in the world. describe the relationship with turkey right now? >> james jeffrey: extremely important, extremely complicated, at the top of the next president's agenda. >> kroft: because? >> jeffrey: first of all, it's location. location is everything. >> kroft: former u.s. ambassador james jeffrey spent much of his diplomatic career in turkey, a country that shares borders with syria, iraq, iran; and the black sea to the north with russia. but more importantly, turkey
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also plays host to the united states and other nato countries at a number of critical air bases like incirlik, that serve as staging areas for military operations in the middle east, and are vital to projecting us military power all the way from europe to india. and how important are those bases? >> jeffrey: they're extremely important. we could not be doing the campaign against isis right now in northern iraq and in syria without these bases. >> kroft: so the u.s. can't afford to lose those bases? >> jeffrey: absolutely not. >> kroft: this is the man who allows the u.s. access to those bases, president recep tayyip erdoan, the conservative, nationalistic-- some would say autocratic-- leader who has governed the democracy for the past 13 years. we met him last month, at the brand new 1,100-room palace in ankara, which is emblematic of erdogan's admiration for the grandeur of turkey's ottoman past, and his ambition to make it once again the most powerful country in the region.
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but erdoan is upset with u.s. policies in syria, that he says have led to a clear and present security threat on his southern border, interfered with his ability to defend his country, and inundated turkey with nearly three million refugees-- twice the number that has flooded into europe. >> erdoan ( translated ): we have addressed these issues, discussed them with president obama and vice president biden. they failed to rise to the occasion and handle these issues seriously. this is quite upsetting for us. >> kroft: you seem very frustrated with the united states. >> erdoan ( translated ): well, let me be very frank in my remarks, and i've been known for my candor. i wouldn't speak the truth if i said i was not disillusioned. because i am disillusioned. >> kroft: president erdoan is not the only one in turkey disillusioned with america right now. so are many of his countrymen, who feel that their western allies care more about their own interests than turkey's. most of the tension and anti- americanism can be traced back
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to the night of july 15, here in the heart of istanbul. factions of the turkish military shut down the bosporus bridge that connects europe and asia, and launched a coup to overthrow the elected government. it wasn't long after that f-16s commandeered by a rogue faction of the air force streaked fast and low across the skies of istanbul and ankara. sonic booms shattered windows. the plotters used tanks and troops to seize strategic buildings and military bases, and shut down istanbul's main airport. and in something never seen before in the capital of a nato country, the parliament in ankara was bombed, and helicopter gunships strafed the presidential palace. soldiers stormed television stations and announced that turkey was under martial law. president erdoan was on vacation with his family when he learned a coup was underway.
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he wanted to address the country, but had no access to the media. so he used the facetime app on a borrowed phone to call in to a turkish television station. he pleaded for people to take to the streets and fill the squares. tens of thousands responded, facing down tanks and helicopters. as volleys were fired into crowds, erdogan boarded a plane and flew towards istanbul. were you afraid for your life and the lives of your family members? >> erdoan ( translated ): steve, in our faith there is a concept. we surrender ourselves to death. if you're the leader, you have to communicate the message of immortality to your people. because i believe, if a leader hides behind a rock, then the people will hide behind a mountain. >> kroft: his return to istanbul proved to be the turning point.
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by daybreak the coup attempt had failed. more than 200 were dead. erdoan immediately blamed the revolt on his arch-enemy, an elderly and exiled cleric named fethullah gulen, whose followers had infiltrated the highest levels of the turkish military, judiciary, and civil service. for the past 17 years, gulen has been leading a reclusive life in the united states on a 26-acre retreat in the pocono mountains. for months, erdogan has demanded that his american ally return gulen to turkey. >> erdoan ( translated ): this man is the leader of a terrorist organization that has bombed my parliament. we have extradited terrorists to the united states in the past. and we expect the same thing to be done by the united states. >> kroft: the u.s. is insisting that the extradition process must be handled through u.s. courts to evaluate the evidence. the delay has created widespread
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suspicions here that the u.s. government is protecting gulen and that its intelligence agencies may have been involved or had advance knowledge of the coup. members of erdogan's government have suggested that publicly. the u.s. has denied it. do you believe that there was any u.s. involvement? >> erdoan ( translated ): i'm not going to blame the united states. but that's what my people will think. why are you still keeping that man? so as long you harbor him there, i'm sorry, don't get offended. but this is the-- perception of the turkish nation and the turkish people. >> kroft: i'm taking it from your answer that you have done nothing to discourage the turkish people from believing that. >> erdoan ( translated ): i cannot deceive my people. i cannot deceive my people here. because i'm suffering right now. the united states is not suffering. but i'm suffering because of the 241 martyrs that we have buried. >> kroft: erdoan had begun a crackdown on the gulenist
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movement and other perceived enemies before the attempted coup. after it, he used a state of emergency to begin a massive effort to purge them from government and turkish society. more than 30,000 people have been arrested or detained, including generals, judges, prosecutors, mayors, members of parliament, teachers and journalists. another 100,000 people have been fired or suspended from government jobs, and 150 media outlets have been shut down. some critics in turkey and some people in the united states have said that this is an overreaction. this is a crackdown on the political opposition, not a crackdown on terrorists? >> erdoan ( translated ): in turkey, they attempted to destroy my state. and of course, we could not remain silent. we could not remain indifferent. and these measures are being taken by prosecutors and judges in full accordance with the rule of law.
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>> kroft: there are not many people in turkey today eager to publicly criticize the government. soli ooözel is an academic and a prominent political commentator. >> soli ozel: i think-- this has gone beyond s-- only the gulenists. a lot of teachers have been dismissed who probably have nothing to do with the gulenists. a lot of newspaper people have been dismissed, although they have nothing with the gulenists. and i think a lot of people who really had nothing to do with the coup attempt itself are now being burned. >> kroft: do you think the government is becoming more and the presidency is becoming more authoritarian? >> ozel: we are moving in that direction, yes. the presidency has now accumulated a lot more power than is stipulated in the-- in the constitution. and it will continue to accumulate more. >> erdoan ( translated ): this is misperception. it is out of the question. we have saved our country from
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the hands of a heinous coup, and we are very much determined to protect our democracy. >> kroft: there is a strong bent of authoritarianism that runs through turkish history and turkish life, and erdoan's message and actions have played well with the public. after the failed coup, his approval rating jumped to 68%. much of that support comes from more traditional, conservative muslims, who have long been marginalized in turkish society. erdogan has embraced them, courted them and included them in his government. >> ece temelkuran: he is a brilliant politician when it comes to talking to common people and with their discourse. >> kroft: ece temelkuran is a turkish writer who chronicles the country's cultural and political changes. she believes this is all part of erdogan's vision for a new turkey. >> temelkuran: the new turkey does not ask you to be more religious. it asks you to be more obedient. it has to be obedient.
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it has to be male, conservative, religious and, you know, supporting the-- governing party. >> kroft: erdoan's new turkey as been a source of concern in washington. while the two nato allies still share the same goals of replacing the assad government in syria and defeating isis, each country has its own special interests and priorities. and in some cases its own allies. the united states is obsessed with isis. turkey is obsessed with kurdish separatist groups that have been waging a decades-long war inside their country. this is where it gets complicated. the u.s. is supporting and arming kurdish groups that turkey considers bitter enemies, and they have responded by bombing the u.s. allies. >> erdoan ( translated ): you cannot defend another terrorist organization just because they are fighting isis as well. you cannot make a distinction
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between a good terrorist organization and a bad terrorist organization. but this is something that we did not come to an agreement with the united states about. >> kroft: into all this acrimony between erdoan and the united states has stepped russian president vladimir putin, one of first world leaders to express solidarity with turkey after the failed coup. since then, the two countries have finalized a major pipeline deal, and agreed to step up military and intelligence contacts. are you reevaluating your alliance and relationship with nato and the united states? >> erdoan ( translated ): right now, such a thing is not in question. we are moving in the same direction with nato that we have always done. >> kroft: according to one informed observer, what erdoan is really looking for is an answer to this question: is the u.s. truly committed to use all of its power, including its military, to preserve order in the region, stop terrorism and protect the interests of turkey.
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yes, or no? it's a difficult question to answer, because the middle east is such a messy place, but right now it looks like the answer from donald trump may be yes. his aides have described turkey as a vital ally and called for the extradition of fethullah gulen, and trump himself has suggested he has high hopes for a closer relationship. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪
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>> o'donnell: few teams have been as glorious on the soccer field as the united states women's national team. they've won three world cups, four olympic gold medals, and set the standard in the most popular sport on the planet. but despite their achievements, the players say they have been discriminated against, paid less and treated worse, next to the u.s. men's team. soccer may be known as the beautiful game, but the team has embarked on a bruising and historic legal fight for equality, and their opponent is the u.s. soccer federation, their own employer. for the players, it's the match of their lives. they hope a victory will help close the gap, not just in sport, but in any job where women do the same work as men--
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for less pay. >> carli lloyd: we feel like we're treated like second class citizens because they don't care as much about us as they do the men. >> lloyd will try a long hit-- what a goal for lloyd! >> o'donnell: carli lloyd is considered the best female soccer player in the world and captains the u.s. team. we recently spoke to her, co- captain becky sauerbrunn and their teammates christen press and morgan brian. there's a long history of athletes battling their employers for more pay. it happens in the n.b.a. it happens in the n.f.l. what's different about this fight? >> christen press: this is a social movement, i think. this is about j-- gender discrimination and i don't think that positive change occurs in the world unless it has to. >> o'donnell: how does this fight rank in some of the competitions you've been in? >> rebecca sauerbrunn: it's the fight, you know? i mean, we have been in some-- some major-- some major battles
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on the field, but this is-- this could be the fight that we are a part of. >> o'donnell: the team is made up of the best female soccer players from around the country, and for 25 years they've ruled the world. >> goal! >> o'donnell: in 1999, when brandi chastain scored to beat china in the finals of the world cup, her celebration announced the beginning of a new era in women's sports. for the 2015 final, an estimated 30 million people watched on tv in the u.s. as carli lloyd's three goals sealed a huge win against japan. it was, and remains, the highest rated soccer match in american history, including games played by the u.s. men. >> lloyd: we're america's dream team and, we've been at the forefront. we've been at the top and i think the number one team-- in women's sports history. >> o'donnell: how has u.s.
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soccer federation helped you guys make it to where you are? >> sauerbrunn: when you compare this federation to all the other federations across the globe, they have invested the most money in this women's program. they have, and that's why we've gotten as far as we have. but to be paid equally, you know, it's-- it's not about what they think it's fair; it's-- it's what is fair. ( chanting "u.s.a.!" ) >> o'donnell: after their 2015 world cup triumph, the team was honored with a parade down new york city's canyon of heroes. but behind the ticker tape, their relationship with u.s. soccer was breaking down over a new contract. outspoken goalkeeper hope solo was on the team for 19 years. >> hope solo: time and time again we asked, that we wanted to be paid equally to the men. and i'll never h-- >> o'donnell: you've been asking for that for many years? >> solo: yeah, we have, we have. every time we brought up the men, it pissed them off. it annoyed them, and they'd say, "don't bring up the men. don't bring it up."
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>> o'donnell: globally, men's soccer is undeniably more popular and profitable than the women's game. when germany won the world cup in 2014, fifa, the sports international governing body, awarded them $35 million. a year later, when the u.s. women won the cup, the u.s. soccer federation received $2 million. >> big run to the box. >> o'donnell: men also make major league salaries playing for brand name club teams. women's pro clubs have struggled financially, so the women say they rely on their national team income to pay their bills, unlike the men. how are they paid differently? >> there's two different pay structures. the men get paid-- per game. whether they win or lose, they get paid. the women were on a salary-based contract. >> o'donnell: it's a pay structure the women themselves wanted and agreed to, in 2005 and again in 2013. a consistent salary of up to $72,000 a year, and bonuses for
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wins of $1,350. they also get health insurance and maternity leave. the men enjoy no guaranteed salary and fewer personal benefits, but they can make as much as $17,625 dollars for a win. we wanted to compare two of the top players. salaries vary, but in 2015, hope solo was paid about $366,000 in total by u.s. soccer. in 2014, also a world cup year for the men, team u.s.a. goalkeeper tim howard was paid $398,495. she played in 23 games for the u.s. he played in eight. >> solo: when you break it down per game, i think it's about three times as much. >> o'donnell: two years ago, hope solo convinced the team to hire lawyer rich nichols to try to get them a better contract.
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>> rich nichols: and i said, "look, you are in control. this is your business. you have to take control of it. and you can be in control of it, but you have to be unified. you've got to get a new deal. >> o'donnell: what kind of deal would the women accept? >> nichols: equal. equal pay. >> o'donnell: well, what does equal mean? you want the same agreement the men have? >> nichols: we want the same money that-- that the men are making, exactly. that's $5,000 minimum-- that's-- that $8,000-- bonus if you tie a game, and the $17,625 if you win. we want equal money. >> morgan brian: we have to win and perform in order to even make $1,350. >> o'donnell: you're professional women. you signed this deal. you look back and say, "why did i agree to that deal?" or? >> sauerbrunn: a little bit, but it's also when it comes down to it, we just kind of had to be like, "oh, you're just going to say, 'no,' to everything that we're putting on the table?" we didn't know how to fight, and-- and in which ways we could fight. >> o'donnell: do you think you should be paid more than the
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men's team? >> lloyd: yeah, absolutely. >> o'donnell: why? >> lloyd: we win. we're successful. we should get what we deserve. >> o'donnell: last year, the top female players did make more money from u.s. soccer than the men's team, but their lawyer rich nichols says that's only because they played and won more games than the men. >> nichols: when you subtract the bonus money that-- that these women made in 2015, you know, they're probably making $72,000, $80,000 apiece. >> o'donnell: so you mean, had they not been winning, they would not have made anywhere close to what the men made. >> nichols: that's right. despite being upset at last summer's olympics, the women are still #1 in the world, according to fifa. they say their fight is only with u.s. soccer, not with the u.s. men's team, who are ranked a respectable if unspectacular 24th in the world. >> president obama: this team taught all america's children that playing like a girl means you're a badass.
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>> o'donnell: on stage at the white house in october 2015, they were national heroes celebrating their latest world cup win. back on the job, they were disgruntled workers whose negotiations with u.s. soccer had ground to a halt and grown increasingly bitter. the women decided to change tactics. enter the federal agency known as the e.e.o.c., or the equal employment opportunity commission. why file this suit with the e.e.o.c.? >> sauerbrunn: we wanted to put pressure on them, and so with the e.e.o.c. complaint, it's seemed like a no-brainer for us. >> o'donnell: their complaint accuses u.s. soccer of violating the equal pay act and title vii, which protects employees against discrimination based on sex. the commission has the power to award damages, issue the right for workers to sue, or do nothing at all. this has never been done before? >> nichols: no, not-- not by professional athletes, no. >> o'donnell: why is this case so different? >> nichols: because it's-- there's never been a situation
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where the same employer has-- has hired men and women to play the same sport under the same working conditions. >> o'donnell: like the w.n.b.a. and the n.b.a. are two separate organizations. >> nichols: correct. same-- same employer, same job, same work conditions, same everything. >> o'donnell: the federations' lawyers responded to the e.e.o.c. complaint by saying, "any differences in the compensation paid men and women players are driven by factors other than gender." >> coming to you, live. >> o'donnell: major factors according to u.s. soccer are revenue and tv ratings. they say men's games, on channels like espn, average audiences four times larger than the women. ( chanting "u.s.a.!" ) but the federation sells both teams to broadcasters and sponsors as one entity, this year for about $45 million. the president of u.s. soccer is sunil gulati. he teaches economics at columbia university. we requested an interview with mr. gulati, but he declined. in a statement, the federation
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said they "are actively working to reach a new agreement with the women's team." >> sauerbrunn: and they're looking backwards, you know? we're looking to go forwards from now on, and we've shown-- and they've projected in their own financials that we-- we are going to make them money. so it's, i think, unfair to pay us less based on performances in the past. >> thank you. >> o'donnell: according to u.s. soccer's own projections for this year, the women will net about $5 million from ticket sales, while the men will lose about $1 million. but it turns out this labor dispute is about more than just money. "60 minutes" has learned the e.e.o.c. is also asking questions about the differences between the men and women when it comes to playing conditions, equipment, and travel. how do the women travel to games? >> lloyd: well, we fly in coach. >> o'donnell: the men, though, is part of their agreement, fly first class? >> lloyd: yes.
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>> brian: to be able to perform like we do and to be the best in the world, we should be treated the same as them. >> o'donnell: we were curious what this fight means to a younger generation of female soccer players. asia horne, analiese schwartz, sarah sullivan and joelle kelly told us they closely follow the women's national team on social media. they play for marymount, an all- girls school in manhattan, and for local soccer clubs, where they've also noticed differences in how the male and female teams are treated. >> asia horne: the boys' teams would get more field time than the girls' teams. we would have to share space with other age groups while the boys would have full field. >> o'donnell: so, joelle, given what the disparities that you've noticed and what you're witnessing the u.s. women's soccer team do, what's the lesson that you learn from that? >> joelle kelly: what they're doing is for us. so we can have that equal pay, and that-- so that we can be on the same level as men. >> o'donnell: the women's contract with u.s. soccer
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expires this coming new year's eve. whether or not the e.e.o.c. decides in their favor, they say they'll remain focused on their goal with all options on the table. if you don't get a ruling from the e.e.o.c., if you don't get what you want from the soccer federation, will you go on strike? >> sauerbrunn: it would be a discussion that we would have to have. >> o'donnell: there's a possibility that they may strike if they don't get equal pay. would you support that? >> yes. >> o'donnell: why? >> because nothing's going to change. if they don't stand up for what they want, they're never going to get it. >> o'donnell: would you like to meet some women on the u.s. women's soccer team? >> yes, yes! >> hello. >> o'donnell: what does it mean to meet these guys? >> the world!
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>> lloyd: this is history- making, what we're doing, what we're fighting for. it not only resonates with this team and with generations to come, but it's global as well. >> o'donnell: carli, you keep saying you're united. how far are you going to take this? >> lloyd: until we get what we want. >> this sports update is brought to you by ford division. i'm james brown with the scores from the nfl today. dallas sets a franchise record with its ninth straight win. the giants shut out chicago in the second half to win their fifth in a row. the titans lose. kc has its ten-game home win snapped. the patriots bounce back behind tom brady's four touchdown passes. for more sports news, go to cbssports.com. ♪i'm on top of the world, hey! with the most 5-star ratings...
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♪ time to think of your future >> logan: bruno mars is one of the world's biggest music stars and he's one of the most driven people we've ever seen. just 31, he's the product of
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what he calls a "school of rock" education-- a working class life of experiences that have taught him the music business. none of it came easily. he's been broke, busted and nearly homeless. but this week, following the release of his first album in four years, he's on top of the music world. to show us how he got there, bruno mars did something he's never done. he shared with us some of the toughest moments of his hawaiian upbringing, and gave us the opportunity to witness his extraordinary skills as a songwriter and producer. we begin with bruno mars, the entertainer. this show in connecticut last month was his first public concert of the year-- >> mohegan sun! >> logan: --and he used it as a tune-up for the release of his new album and world tour to follow.
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( ♪ "uptown funk" ) on every song and every note, from arenas to halftime of the superbowl, he and his band, the hooligans, perform full throttle. ( ♪ "uptown funk" ) his standards are high, because the legends of music set them. ( ♪ "uptown funk" ) >> bruno mars: i just really care about what people see. i want them to know that i'm-- i'm working hard for this. ( ♪ "uptown funk" ) the artists that i look up to, like, you know, michael, prince, james brown. you watch them, and you understand that they're paying attention to the details of their art. and they care so much about what they're wearing, about how they're moving, about how they're making the audience feel. they're not phoning it in.
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they're going up there to murder anybody that performs after them or performs before them. that's what i've watched my whole life, and admired. >> logan: he is a throwback. you see it in the choreography on stage-- ( ♪ "locked out of heaven" ♪ ) --and hear it in the songs themselves, descendants of the generations that came before him. ( ♪ "locked out of heaven" ) >> logan: when i listen to your songs-- >> mars: uh-huh? >> logan: --you can hear all those people that you've listened to-- >> mars: yeah. >> logan: --over the years. >> mars: a lot of people are really quick to say, "that song sounds like this." or you-- "he's tryin' to sound like this." and i'm always like, "you're damn right i am. that's how-- that's why we're all here." you know, we all grew up idolizing another musician. that's how this works.
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that's how music is created. >> logan: the musical education of bruno mars began in his hometown: honolulu, hawaii. he was born peter hernandez, to a puerto rican father and philippino mother: parents who were professional musicians, performing together in the tourist showrooms of waikiki beach. their act was called the "love notes," and when bruno was four years old, his parents included him in the family business. ( ♪ "blue suede shoes" ) he played "little elvis" and it's when he first learned he could steal the show. ( ♪ "hound dog" ) the "little elvis" routine lasted six years, but the lessons of his parents' vegas- style waikiki entertainment revue, have lasted a lifetime. >> mars: you know, it was, like,
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"school of rock" for me. and it was just-- this kind of razzle-dazzle lifestyle. >> logan: that's real showbiz. >> mars: yeah, show business. you know? >> logan: right? >> mars: and if you wasn't hitting those notes and the audience wasn't-- freakin' out, then you weren't doing it right. >> logan: by the time he turned 12, his parents divorced and the family band broke up. money was tight. his four sisters moved in with his mom. he and his brother lived with his dad-- on top of this building? >> mars: on top of this building. >> logan: --anywhere they could. >> mars: my dad was just the king of finding these little spots for us to stay that we should never have been staying at. >> logan: but you were, like, homeless people? >> mars: yeah. no. yeah, for sure. we was in a limousine once. 1984 limousine. >> logan: sleeping in the back of a car, on top of buildings, and this place-- so this is where you lived? --paradise park, a bird zoo where his dad took a job. this was the first time he'd been back here since.
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even people who work with him haven't heard this part of his story. >> mars: where we were staying at first-- >> logan: yeah? >> mars: --didn't have a bathroom. so we'd have to walk across the park to this other spot that had a bathroom. >> logan: wow. >> mars: in the-- in-- >> logan: and sometimes in the middle of the night. >> mars: in the middle of the night. >> logan: when the park closed, they stayed, moving into this one-room building. this was your house? >> mars: yeah. >> logan: they lived here for more than two years. >> mars: just so people don't think we're crazy-- >> logan: yeah? >> mars: --it did not look like this. >> logan: it had a roof? >> mars: it had a roof. >> logan: it didn't have plants growing inside? >> mars: it didn't have plants growing inside. i don't know what happened to the roof, but the bed would be right there in the middle. >> logan: yeah? and you'd all sleep in one bed? >> mars: we'd all sleep in one bed. >> logan: happy memories? >> mars: the best. >> logan: that's-- is kind of amazing, in that, what you remember about it is not the struggle or the things you didn't have. >> mars: naw--
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>> logan: it's all the things you-- you had. >> mars: yeah. we had it all, you know. we had each other and it never felt like it was the end of the world. "it's all right we don't got-- don't got electric today. it's all right. it's temporary." sayin', "well, we're going to figure this out." maybe that's why i have this mentality when it comes to the music. because i know i'm going to figure-- i'm going to figure it out, just give me some time. >> logan: as soon as he graduated high school, he left the waikiki showrooms, and hawaii altogether. you could've stayed here, right? >> mars: and be-- >> logan: --and you could-- >> mars: --very happy. >> logan: yeah? and made a good living, and-- and done what your dad did, and been a big star in hawaii? >> mars: i wanted to go for it. >> logan: you wanted more? >> mars: i wanted more. and my family pushed me. and this island pushed me. >> logan: how? >> mars: these are my people, and this is my culture, and i want to represent them. i want people to think of hawaii and think of palm trees and-- ( laughter ) magical islands and-- and bruno mars. >> logan: so he headed for los
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angeles, where he was quickly signed by motown records. gone was his given name of peter hernandez, branding himself bruno mars instead. "bruno," his childhood nickname, "mars," shooting for the stars. the name stuck, but the record contract didn't. motown dropped him. >> mars: i don't blame motown. i don't-- i-- i was sim-- it's simply, i wasn't ready yet. i think everybody don't know what color i am. it's like, he's not black enough, he's not white enough. he's got a latin last name but he doesn't have-- he doesn't speak spanish. who are we selling this to? "are you making urban music? are you making pop music? what kind of music are you making?" >> logan: with no hit songs of his own and dead broke, he started over, writing and producing songs for other artists, with friends ari levine and philip lawrence. they were starving musicians. inspired by the hustle just to pay for food, they came up with
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this song: ( ♪ "billionaire" ) it led to another record deal of his own. ( ♪ "just the way you are." ) his career as a songwriter and performer was finally on track. ( ♪ "just the way you are." ) about that time though, he was arrested for possession of 2.5 grams of cocaine. >> logan: from the outside, you really seem to keep it together and to be very-- professional and, you know, very committed, but you nearly threw it all away. >> mars: i did something very stupid. i'm in las vegas, lara. i'm 24 years old. i'm, you know, drinking way more than i'm supposed to be drinking and it was so early in my career and i always say that i think it had to happen.
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that was the reality check i needed, and i'm-- i promised myself that that-- you know, you ain't never going to read about that again. ( ♪ "grenade" ) >> logan: headlines for hits, not drug busts have been his narrative ever since, capped by two superbowl haltime performances in three years; ♪ ♪ and three grammys, including "record of the year" for his collaboration with producer mark ronson, "uptown funk." it's the biggest hit in a career full of them. ( ♪ "uptown funk" ) how difficult is it to write a song that's great? >> mars: "uptown funk" took us almost a year to write. and there's songs that taken-- that's taken us two hours to write.
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and we throw 'em away. "uptown funk" was in the trashcan about ten times. >> logan: really? >> mars: yeah. >> logan: why? >> mars: because we made a lot of-- you know, you can make a left turn and all of a sudden this song is something terrible. embarrassing, almost. but you have this one thing that keeps you going, this one part of the song that feels so good and it makes you want to keep going. and it makes you want-- "ah, we should just try again. let's try again, let's try again." >> logan: he told us the conception of much of his music begins, in this california recording studio. >> mars: this is it, lara. >> logan: over the last two years, he has been on lockdown here trying to answer the challenge created from his run of big hits. especially his last one. >> mars: this album, it was daunting, because coming off of "uptown funk" was like the biggest song i've ever been a part of. and then, you're like, all right, now what are you going to do? ( ♪ "24k magic" ) >> logan: this is what he came up with.
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( ♪ "24k magic" ) his new album, "24 karat magic." the title song, out just six weeks, is already another massive hit. ( ♪ "24k magic" ) he showed us how they built the song, from the drums up. ♪ ♪ >> mars: that's how it starts. >> logan: and then? >> mars: well, come on, come on! ( ♪ "24k magic" ) and then we could put some sparkle on it. like, put a little magic dust on it. hear that? ( ♪ "24k magic" ) drums and base is locking, right? >> logan: yes. >> mars: feel good yet? >> logan: yes! >> mars: then you add the sauce, the secret sauce. you ready? ( ♪ "24k magic" ) that's it. ( ♪ "24k magic" ) "24 karat magic!" ( ♪ "24k magic" )
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showtime! guess who's back again? >> logan: it's easy to see that bruno mars loves the only job he's ever wanted, and that he's still driven, to get it right. >> mars: i was built for this, lara. it's dedicating yourself to your craft. spending thousands of hours in a studio learning how to write a song, learning how to play different chords, training yourself to sing. you know, to get better and better. >> logan: are you there? >> mars: no. i'm not even close. goodnight, y'all!
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