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, managingn architect the growth of camp all a -- of kampala inspires her. welcome to our viewers on public television in america and also around the globe. cyber spying and economic espionage -- it sounds like a spy novel. today those are the charges u.s. prosecutors are leveling against five chinese military officers. the case is the first of its kind. beijing has warned it could harm relations between the two countries. mark mardell reports. >> according to the fbi, these men are criminals. despite their aliases, they are no ordinary bad guys.
the chinese army officers presumably doing the bidding of their government. >> we must say enough is enough. this administration will not tolerate actions by any nation that seeks to a likely -- seeks to illegally sabotaged american companies and undermine the integrity of fair competition in the operation of the premarket -- of the fair market. >> this is the home, according to u.s. officials, of what they call 21st century burglary. britain has complained about cyber attacks in the past, but the americans are now being much more explicit. the five chinese army officers are charged with attacking the middle industry between 2006 and 2012 -- the metal industry between 2006 and 2012. they are charged with stealing financially sensitive information, solar power company
-- financially sensitive information from a solar power company. plant on thesteel day it laid off 140 workers because of competition from china -- >> the lifeblood of any organization is the people who work, strive, and sweat for it. when these cyber intrusions occur, production slows, plants close, workers get laid off and lose their homes. >> when president obama met with president xi, they talked of new agreement. this could make things worse. x u.s. china relations are getting -- we are trying to keep the other from getting advantage and using various aspects of the relationship to try to send strong messages. the unfortunate thing about the is that there is
precious little we can do about it. these are not -- these guys are not going to surrender to the fbi. >> you might think people who live in white houses shouldn't throw stones. mark mardell, bbc news, washington. >> why did america decide act now? forort while ago, a writer "the new yorker," and author of "age of ambition." the u.s. has announced these criminal charges against chinese officers, alleging they have been cyber spying. how do you think this will affect u.s.-china relations? >> this is unprecedented. the united states has not used criminal charges like it is now. what they are trying to do is say we are drawing a line in the sand. years,e last two american companies have
complained more vocally than they have in the past. the government had not yet used the power of the justice department. this is the first time that has happened. the chinese government has responded by calling the charges, in their words, "extremely absurd." >> the u.s. claims it does not conduct economic espionage. just espionage for national security. is that an argument the chinese will by? -- buy? >> no. spy agencies have been found to be operating on a much larger scale than was expected. the chinese government will say why is it you are treating us in a way you wouldn't go after your believecies, or can we your assurances you are not doing the same thing to us. the united states will say they have and use economic espionage to give american companies advantage over chinese companies. we have not seen any evidence of that. >> the russian president,
vladimir putin, will be in china tomorrow. is that a classic case of the enemy's enemy is my friend? >> i think it is fair to say that the chinese have been unnerved by vladimir putin's foreign policy. they don't like the idea of somebody on their own borders going into territory they would consider to be another country and carving it off as russian territory. anytime we think the russians and chinese may be finding themselves with new sources of kinship, i think it is worth remembering there is a lot that divides them. >> you write about china's aspirations and its authoritarianism. which will win? >> at the moment, the power of aspiration, the power for the individual to set out and say i'm going to decide where i want to invest, who i want to marry, where i want to live -- this has grown steadily over the last 30 years and the chinese system has not accommodated to it. it will be up to the political
system to adjust to that. >> you make a comparison between china now and america's gilded age, the age of the robber barons. what prompted that parallel? >> 10 years ago in the united states, we were still recovering -- 110 years ago in the united states, we were still recovering from the civil war. it was generated in or miss wealth -- generating enormous welalth. china is building more high-speed rail than the rest of the world combined. it is a place in which you have the world's fastest-growing source of new billionaires, but it is also home to him or miss, -- two enormous -- also home to enormous, spectacular corruption. >> what do you miss most about china? >> the thing you miss most is that it is constantly changing, constantly surprising.
you become used to the idea that it will become fundamentally different a year from now than it is today. >> thanks for joining us. in syria, thousands of schools have been shut down by the war and millions displaced. against all odds, some students are still sitting for their exams. our chief international correspondent gained rare access to the besieged palestinian camp near damascus. she met schoolchildren who had to escape a war zone just to take their tests. yarmouk, the refugee camp or palestinians, now a symbol of suffering. it has been besieged by government forces for nearly a year and torn by the fight against rebel groups. on this day, there is a moment of calm, an agreement to allow students out. weeks asfor two schools across syria hold final tests. it has been a walk through a war
zone. we heard gunfire just before their journey started. sit theirgoing to exams may seem a simple thing, but here in yarmulke -- yarmouk, it took weeks of negotiations, days of delay, and huge security concerns. that's what life is like when you live under siege. on our last visit, we saw how desperate conditions are. trappeds of families inside depend on food aid, but they are only getting 1/4 of what they need to survive because the situation is so volatile. no wonder there is such relief when the students finally emerged. yarmouk andoutside hasn't seen his daughter for 10
months. he tells me, "my happiness is so big, i can spread it around the world." you are feeling really happy. >> thank you, thank you. this was organized by the u.n. agency for palestinian refugees -- buses organized by the u.n. agency for palestinian refugees take the students away. they try to remember the streets they haven't seen for months. when we arrived at the schools which now serve as shelters, there are more tearful reunions. >> we are hoping that yarmouk will be opened. it is not to give prem -- permission, but to have more movement of people in and outs so that we can feel we have a choice to leave. >> exams are the only things on the minds of students who have escaped from a living hell. >> we have to eat food that no
one can eat -- grass, spices. life is very difficult inside. you cannot understand it until you live there. >> i was outside the house when i came home. i found the rocket had landed. my mother and two sisters were killed. my other two sisters injured. it is not for life that we say that god. >> every day we went to school. we put our hands on our hearts because so many people have died, but we insist we had to go to school. of course we were scared, but we had to continue. if we lose our future, no one can help us. it is straight to revision for their exams. they know how much they matter. but when they're over, it is back to yarmouk, where their lives, their future is not in
their hands. bbc news, damascus. >> such incredible dedication there by those students. the defense in the trial of former bosnian serb army chief ratko mladic on charges of genocide and rhymes against humanity has opened in the hague. the most serious is that he was -- and crimes against humanity has opened in the hague. the most serious is -- the defense says he was fighting to defend his people, not to ethnically cleanse parts of bosnia. deported tolamist the u.s. has been charged with terrorism. a jury found that 56-year-old guilty on all 11 charges he faced. mr. hamza could now be sentenced to life in prison. for the latest, we go to nick bryant outside the courthouse in
manhattan. this case spanned several continents, didn't it? >> it did. and as it came to the end and as those verdicts were handed down, abu hamza leaned back in his chair but showed very little emotion. asked. ok? his lawyer "yes," he replied -- replied. abu hamza, notorious as the face of extremism, now convicted in america of using his base in london to fight global jihad. prosecutors betrayed him as the who dedicateder his life to fighting, shooting, killing. the jury rigged -- rejected the defense that he worked secretly for mi5 and worked to keep the streets safe and acted as a moderating influence on young
britains. in 2012lown to america after an eight-year fight by u.s. prosecutors to gain his extradition. the main charge centered on the kidnapping of this group of western tourists in yemen in 1998, which ended in the deaths of three britons and an australian. abu hamza spoke with a ringleader in yemen in the midst of the hostage crisis. the cleric was accused of trying to set up a jihadist training camp in rural london -- in a site close to the september 11 attacks. he spoke of his love for osama bin laden, although he said he disagreed with the al qaeda's leader's -- the al qaeda leader's methods. >> they played much more of a role than we believe it should have. trial hamza, as the
showed, attempted to portray himself as a preacher of faith, but he was instead a trainer of terrorists. that has now been proven in an american court to a unanimous jury beyond a reasonable doubt. throughoutnotes using a prosthetic with a pen attached. the largely calm figure who appeared in court was almost unrecognizable from the fiery cleric of old. it was an act, said the prosecution, to trick the jury. >the sentencing will take place in september and the defense team has said already that it will mount an appeal. one of the things that annoyed the defense team was that they were not allowed to introduce evidence which they claimed showed abu hamza had cooperated with british intelligence and acted as the moderating influence. this does beg a question for the british authorities, why it was that it took an american
prosecutor to get a guilty verdict on somebody who committed and had been involved in a crime in which three britons were killed. back to you. >> that is indeed the question. thank you. you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come, the world's newest nation is in danger of a famine. south sudaning in is taking an increasing toll. serbia and bosnia are international -- have called for international help to rescue people from inundated areas after the worst flooding since the modern era began. balkansestern underwater. these are the worst floods the region has seen in living memory. forced tens of thousands of people from their homes. rain fellhs' worth of in just three days last week and this is the result.
international aid is coming in for people without power and freshwater. >> my house has been flooded up to the roof. it is an old house. we will really need help. >> in serbia, at least the floodwater has been receding as fears of a river surge ease, but it is too late for the towns which have already been swamped. many people are still cut off and food and water supplies are scarce. just like the rest of the town, this hotel is underwater. boat is really the only sensible way of getting around a lot of this town now. there are some people who still remain as rescue workers are bringing in emergency supplies for them. for the hundreds upon hundreds of people who are trying to help the situation here. agriculture has been hit badly. officials say it might take five years to recover. livestock have been left to fend for themselves. for the many uninsured farmers,
it is a disaster. flies a multitude of flags. there are rescue helicopters from the european union, united states, and russia. the sandbags remain in place, with concerns that river levels may yet rise later in the week. at least the rain has stopped, but there will be fresh challenges once the water recedes. bbc news. aid agencies are warning of a famine in south sudan on a scale bigger than that seen in ethiopia in the 1980's. an acute shortage of food is threatening the lives of millions the same time as the country is marred in a civil -- is mired in a civil war between government and armed rebels. the conflict has sparked widespread ethnic violence and
has led to more than one million people fleeing their homes. from juba, the bbc reports. >> the world's youngest nation is now the world's most desperate. in this camp, almost 20,000 civilians struggle to stay alive. the u.n., which runs it, calls it a death trap. cholera has already begun to spread in juba. only one thing has pulled people into this camp -- fear. hash sudan's civil war poisoned the country with ethnic hate. --, as is theare leader of the rebellion, so they have become a target. >> they are killing anyone -- ethnic cleansing, like what happened in rwanda. >> your house is literally three minutes from where we are sitting now in the u.n. camp.
why do you not go home now? >> because if i go home, they will kill me. they will kill me. >> the fight between forces loyal to the president and rebels led by the former vice president has lasted five months. a cease-fire deal 10 days ago was purely theoretical. so, aid supply lines have been cut and subsistence farmers cannot plant crops. mass hunger looms. south sudan's army can still muster up a show of strength for but his warent, with the rebels threatens to devastate his country. your government doesn't understand how serious the situation is. >> no, we understand. it is a man-made disaster.
this is why we warned -- want the world to allow humanitarian access to everyone in the country. the population is going to face famines thatorst has ever been witnessed in south sudan. >> because of the war and impassable roads, emergency food supplies are now being dropped by playing. -- plane. it is hugely inexpensive -- expensive. without an injection of hundreds of millions of dollars, the international relief effort will soon grind to a halt. >> we basically have enough resources to keep this sort of operation going for about one more month. we need more money to avoid a catastrophic situation. >> for now, the airdrops continue, but in south sudan, the margin between life and death has become perilously thin. and if the war continues, it
will get still thinner. bbc news, juba, south sudan. >> now to the story of doreen ugandana young architect who lives in new york city. every summer, she travels back to kampala with a group of students who aim to study the city and its rapid growth. >> uganda is having problems. it is urbanism the most important thing? i would argue that it is the way a city functions that affects everything else. i am an architect. i have projects in new york and kampala. every time i go back, i think that there is great opportunity in kampala. i grew up in uganda. my family is there. i travel back every year. i've been doing research on urbanism in kampala, looking at
how the city grew and how it is growing rapidly now and how it is adapting to its rapid growth. the first sketch was made in 1884. it shows the kingdom of uganda. we see the king's palace. and this was his hunting grounds. it was formed over seven hills by the british administration. they hired a german architect. the vertical stripes are european zone, diagonal are the african zone. he was seen as being progressive for including -- in the plan, because the system before thought that the city would be for the colonial government and everyone else would move outside the city. kampala was built for about 50,000 people. that's what the administration imagined would be the site of
kampala. today there are 3 million people. the government is working to provide housing, but it is difficult. in some cases, the government provides the housing, and people move into the housing, but then they sell off that housing, take the money and move back into the slum. there is this perpetual cycle. ands difficult to come in impose and say, well, i think things have to be a certain way. but if there is a way to allow a flexible system, that allows people to live the way they live but in a safe way, that is the big challenge. for me, it is very important to go to kampala. each time i go in with fresh eyes and fresh ears to listen to what is going on and work for the people, as opposed to showing up and saying this is what i think. >> doreen adengo there on her
fascinating work in both new york and kampala. that brings today's show to a close. you can find more on our website. to reach me and most of the bbc team, go to twitter. for all of us here, thank you for watching. pleaseune in tomorrow -- tune in tomorrow. >> funding of this presentation is made possible by the freeman foundation, newman's own foundation, giving all profits to charity and pursuing the common good for over 30 years, foundation, united health care, and union bank. >> at union bank, our relationship managers work hard to understand the industry you operate in, working to nurture
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