tv Washington Week With Gwen Ifill PBS October 17, 2014 7:30pm-8:01pm PDT
>> on ebola, the economy, mid term politics and the fight against isis. scary, what do you really need to know? tonight onkle it all "washington week." the ebola scare reaches washington. is not a drill. people's lives are at stake and so far has and unacceptable. >> i'm confident that we can prevent a serious outbreak of the disease here in the united it becomes more difficult to do so if this out ofc of ebola rages control in west africa. gwen: the nation's health on the spot. a czar in place. dropping every day. jitters overwhelm
economic jitters, obscuring good news. than 10 million new jobs have made a real difference in people's lives. just but the stock market won't settle down. meanwhile, from florida to kansas to kentucky, the candidates are debating. >> there is a great likelihood the i will be the leader of majority in the senate next year. >> have to have a senator that actually realizes what the realities are here in kentucky. gwen: and the war against intoic state forces turns moo a grinding long-term battle. a mole. not whack the idea isn't to put a warhead every single day. gwen: what has the u.s. committed to? and who else is helping? the week, josh gerstein, senior white house for politico. eamon javers, washington crept cnbc. cbs news andn, hannah allam, national
>> funding for "washington week" is also provided by the annenburg foundation. the corps for public broadcasting and by p.b.s. stations from viewers like you. thank you. live from, washington, moderator gwen ifill. gwen: good evening. the brave new world of single subject news obsessions, missing imminent war, scandals at the v.a. and the secret news aboutis week's the spread of the ebola crisis has been the most unsettling. members of congress back to town for a contentious hearing and forced the president to scrap his schedule and point what he called an ebola response coordinator. aside for a moment how many americans will ultimately be affected by ebola. we know that thousands have already died and thousands more
africa.cted in west >> i will tell you as the director of c.d.c. one of the things i fear about ebola is that it could spread more widely in africa. if this were to happen it could healtha threat to our system and healthcare we give come.long time to gwen: the landscape of infection has shifted every day, it has town more difficult distinguish between concern and panic and that is why the government belatedly some say seems to have all hands on deck starting with a new coordinator. tell us about him, josh. chief of staff to vice president biden and before to vice president al gore. known for his relations with people on capitol hill and unions, state and local governments. the white house is touting his experience in particular with recovery act as sort of his
management chops. but he is not exactly the person people thought would be picked like a prominent medical doctor or maybe a military general. a little bit of a surprise. not clear that he will be the public face of the effort that i a lot of people expect. it looks like the president may keep doing that part jo well, he is the. >> well, he is the president. we keep calling it a czar and republicans keep calling it a czar. they used to hate czars but now they like czars. seems to be more like an overseer. to be the white house idea. >> he can make the mechanics and and various pullies of government operate more efficiently. necessarily the pub locoman puc communicator. clearly they think this is a problem with cord nateing what is doing and cord nateing between the federal government and the boots on the ground here are primarily not federal boots. talking about hospitals, local
and state health departments and is best suited for that. gwen: and foreign health departments as well in other countrys. freaked people out here is the degree to which people associated with ebola have been allowed to travel all the country and be able to get on planes and on a cruiseship in one case. thing that puzzled me, it doesn't seem clear exactly what the legal authority is for the to issue quarantines and force people to stay in their houses if they think this person that might be a threat. what is the government allowed to do? back to the middle of the bush administration. they started an effort to update the federal government quarantine powers and it meant the civilack from liberties groups and airline and cruise industry who said we to be responsible for the enforcement and the civil liberties groups were concerned ins really went too far terms of collecting information on people and powers to confine them. administration never
finalized the rules during the three years after they were proposed. the obama poem started working on them again and threw up their in 2010. >> put a sheriff in front of the house and say you can't come out? a state andmarily local effort. they have the old quarantine authorities. there is some the federal well.ment has as but there are questions about how valid or enforceable the authoritiesrnment are since they haven't been used in decades. >> can the federal government do anything, talk about a travel ban. where is the white house on that politically? it is getting more pressure. democrats now saying they are behind it. where does that stand now? >> the president said he is not philosophically opposed to a travel ban. the white house has been pouring water on this all week. there is a consensus among the public health experts that this wouldn't work. the argument is that people will perhapsork around h and work around it in a way that is
rather dangerous. right now the government thinks idea when people travel to this country where they are coming from and if they are coming from a place where have possibly been exposed to ebola and they can be screened and interviewed. if they were moving to other countries and breaking up the trips, say, trying to travel to europe by left hand and then fly u.s. from there it might be really impossible to know and i think that is more frightening to the public health officials than the possibility that someone could come directly from countrys. >> now we have someone coordinating on the u.s. side. when about internationally? there a collective global effort? >> well, i mean the u.n. has been trying to organize something. but we heard a lot of grumbling from the u.s. officials just in the last couple of days including secretary of state kerry saying that it hasn't been a serious effort globally. onn president obama has been the phone with european leaders saying you need to step up here. we heard somewhen odd and rare cubansfor kerry for the sending more than 100 doctors
there to work on the problem. the white house thinks it is rest of theat the world has not taken as sorously should and perhaps in that way contributing to it getting out of hand. you, josh. welcome to washington. >> thank you so much, gwen. gwen: the obama administration was trying to break through with a bit of positive news. the federal deficit once thought to be the national achilles heel from the trillion dollar highs to $483 billion now. doesn't sound like much but it is the lowest since 2007. plus, jobs and corporate numbers headed in the right direction. i asked treasury secretary jack lew why if things are so good to beans don't seem feeling it? >> conditions in 2009 were really bad. it loaves bruising that takes time to get over. we have been in an extended period where washington hasn't
been getting to the brink of a crisis where they are seeing the grow and our to job is to continue this. gwen: and then the crazy stock gyrations. >> we saw a couple of days this week with multi100 point swings in the dow. one point earlier in the week, 450 points off the dow in one morning. all of thatack but is a return to volatility this used to if you are not this. part of what is going on actually is ebola is sort of the marketsnd noise and hate uncertainty. the obama administration has newstrying to get the good that you are talking about out there but with this in the backdrop it is hard to get the message out. gwen: it is not just about the deficit. saying it is are not over yet. also housing numbers are good. corporate earnings report which good. the jobless numbers are good. >> the jobs have been great. 200,000 plus job growth for
month after month after month. the kind of number that will take the country back to the where we need to be over time. the problem is wages have not as well.ing up when you see the jobs that are created not being great high-paying jobs that is part of problem and people tonight feel it. and then there is a sentencing hangover from 2009 where we saw the great financial collapse and realized all of could go away. people don't believe in them yet. you need the confidence to turn over and things to start turning for the american public. >> the federal reserve is about are in the middle of unwinding what they did to fix emergency thate jack lew was talking about. where are they in the economic picture? slowing downbeen their bond-buying program. they had a massive stimulus. discussion has all been focused on spending stimulus. the fed stimulus to the market been much, much bigger.
they are slowing down and doing what is called tapering and gradually and trying to bring h thing to a soft landing. what markets are worried about background conversation on wall street this week was will the fed taper at the same pace going forward or is there going to be an unexpected problem here? and when happens when they node interest rates. is thismy ready to take the training wheels off and grown on own or does the fed still need that? there is nervousness in anticipation of that. chance when you talk about pocket book effects, a in gasolinep prices. prices wereif skyrocketing -- gwen: that is all anyone would be talking about. >> could this help the a anxiety about the economy. haven't focused on the crash in prices and the gasoline coming downe pump
doctor mattically. people are taking pictures and posting them to facebook because they are amazed the how hoe it low itis get. people have more money in their free it upthey can to spend on other things. a significant impact. what scared people on wall street was that it came down so little fear ofa why is this happening and what is going on? for consumers, should be a good inning in the long run. gwen: when we talk about the stock market, the other thing he would don't talk about enough it there is a is that global component to what drives this. u.s. looks actually strong, the ups and downs more than europe toes. is what is happening there that is driving instability there. >> europe is holding the united back at this point and there is question about whether china will go into a slowdown or the rate of growth in china is going to slow over time and that implications for the united states.
to the extent for which the fed and treasury and wall street are thingsto deal with these there is a big world out there and really does affect in real time what is going on here. to plan and really have any kind of control or ability to seize control of events at this point. gwen: thanks, eamon. we are still counting down to every weeky and brings another interesting shift in the political left hand scape. a week of -- landscape. this was a week of debates. stillgh republicans are favored to take over the senate, many of of the most critical races still up in the air. we mayingoint, are checkers or are we playing chess, john, if you know what i mean? >> talking to a democrat involved in all of the races, analogy was plinko. you may not remember it. not. i do >> it was a maze up on a wall and each contestant got a chip butter plate and you dropped it down and it would drop back and forth and back and turns andtwists and
maybe line up in the jackpot plate and you would win some money. do not remember plinko. not justs why that is a bit of nostalgia but a useful metaphor. are 10 races where the democrats are on the defensive and they are lows and there are lot of twists and turns. the jackpot is holding on to control of the senate. bidding, the republicans need to take six seats away from the temperature rats of of the 10 opportunities they have to do that, two of the seats are pretty much already gone in montana and west virginia. have to gets they four republicans need four more seats out of the remaining eight democrats are tee fending on. that -- defending on. that looks good for republicans the remaining eight races it is very, very close. and of twists and turns that is about where we are in the global picture. and i should say there have been some last minute surprises in south dakota which was considered gone, republicans considered to have won that.
that race is now in contention. kansas., of course, in gwen: are there overarching issues? term or state races but overarching issues that people are talking about, mott just personality. are a republican the issue is the president. in one of the debates, tom cotton who is the republican congressman running for the senate in arkansas mentioned barack obama in almost every the debate and tried to tie him to the incumbent democrat. for republicans the issue is obama. and now with the ebola response of the president this is the latest they would say republicans would say the incompetence from the administration and these are candidates tied to that. message ists the disparate. you have the democrat hitting on the bill that would have outlawed abortion and restricted
control.birth an important issue to women voters which democrats need to turn out. thing which was eye opening to me was democratic candidates on the stump refusing to say whether or not they voted for barack obama for president. can you explain the political calculation of a politician deciding they would rather look evasive than look like a democrat? >> nice choice. >> that is the actual choice they have. >> this is how toxic the for every democrat who is running. it is no surprise if you are a votedat that you probably for the president. but allison grimes in her debate michelle nunn in georgia. allison was asked the second in the last couple of days and she wouldn't bend to it. the calculus is this. if you say it, there is no way that you cancy you voted for him clever way it will not end up in a 30 second ad immediately.
when he said there is no issues are one the ballot it was on the republican ads like that. is no way yes, there you can say it and not have that show up in an ad and that could painful so you take the short-term hit, people saying takere evasive but don't the bigger hit of being in an ad all day long. >> running for office the question is what are your politics? you might want to know who they voted for. to explain trying everything else about the politics but that side. it.ot me throw out some states. north carolina. democrat was the supposed to be doomed in that race. the most expensive senate race them out there. three is a few points ahead of tom tilus the republican. she is stage local and focusing cuts in education in north carolina and using that.
on election night if there are string of democratic is one they think they might be able to win. colorado., >> the temperature rats would never admit they are out of reach. it.: they wouldn't admit >> democrats were hoping not to have a problem in iowa. the state that president obama victory in 2008. won twice there in the general election. ground game. but the congressman has had one another and the republican is a state senator has run a good campaign. but the real thing to watch for is not the individual states in terms of how they turn out but on election note we know who controls the senate. will in the no necessarily. >> georgia has a rule that if you don't get to 50% there is a runoff. and then the two independents to caucusey going
with. gwen: who now that 2015 could be an electioneerer. at least in louisiana, could well be. the shifting sands of politics expanded to the shifting sands americanse as continue the effort to stop the stillc state forces gaining ground. relief arrived in kobane near u.s.oarder with turkey and officials continue to warn against a quick fix. a everybody needs to have sense of strategic patience. air strikes are dynamic and exciting. count them and get great video of them. i understand the drama. air strikes alone are not going to do this. military power alone is not and it is going to take some time. gwen: take some time has become this,ntra in all of hasn't it, hannah? >> it has. if anyone thought this would be quick or easy fight that is not what the pentagon is saying.
general austin, the man in charge of the military effort isis or isil or islamic state as we all know the acronyms said today in response to just about every aspect of that it was going to take time, suggesting years to an iraqi force, a viable ground force and in that equipt is not a train and mix but a retrain and reequip mission after the forces summer.d over the on syria, just at the very beginning of hand picking what to be a newly going u.s.-backed paramilitary force there. >> are they surprised at all at the resilience of the islamic state group or do they expect this to be so difficult? saying this admiral was never going to be whack a mole but feels like we expected it to be. >> right. there are worries that this is going to put the u.s. on a wheel.r that as long as isis keeps
attacking and attacking the u.s. will have to keep beating it air strikes in the absence of a ground force which elusive parte most of the strategy. >> do they have any sense of how training is going to take? you mentioned in iraq there was a lot of training done and just melted away under the kind of passion that isil has. why is it going to work now? and if it is going to work, how long is it going to take to build up the two necessary as we just heard to get going? >> and that is the question. it wasw, in iraq $17 billion worth of training for the security forces and theher $8 billion for police. and again, they melted. projection is that he are are going to reconstitute come of the best parts of that well as build a sunni toional guard type entity police anbar. recruitment phase
right now and meanwhile the iraqi government is being forced iranian-backed shea militias to fill the security and you have the strange situations with the u.s. military is providing air cover militias that only a few years ago were killing americans. >> what do we know about who we are actually fighting over there? ofld you hear reports foreign fighters including americans and syrians and iraqis. fighters thattual we will be in combat with? >> this is a hodgepodge as well. in iraq, isis could not do alone and they have help from former bathists, and some troys. capitalize on to an existing sunni uprising policieshe sectarian of the iraqi government. that is iraq. theas well as now extremists, foreign jihadists coming into the country and he to say they erased the
go back andnow forth. it is not a conventional batfield. people will come from tunisia libya and evennur europe and america. they have been known to go back and forth, take a rest and check on family members and return to causing and that is tension when some of the fighters who fought alongside to theirack lowcommunities, especially in libya andlaces like spouse isis ideology effortsat odds with the of a democratic government. rifts you talk about the in the coalition? problemsey, lot of between the u.s. organizing. is that hampering the effort to a coherent ground
force? gwen: time for a brief answer. >> the u.s. likes to say no, turkey is committed. the shape of that role is not yet clear. you know, they do want turkey to take more of an active role. they are playing down the military aspect of it for now jo a lot. lot of strange bed fellows involved in this. thanks, everybody. you.e out of time for we plan to keep on talking online. join us on the "washington week" webcast extra stromeing live at 8:30 p.m. eastern and all week long. only other things we will dig rulings that. could determine who gets to the polls this full. developmentsdaily with me and judy woodruff at the pbs news hour and we will see next week on "washington week." good night. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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