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>> rose: welcome to the program. i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, the pope visits adimir putin and actor richard gere's latest role has him living on the streets. >> i've been feeling for the last 10 years, maybe. ♪ will you ever live for me >> that i am one stupid loser of an idiot. and i-- i'm just not so sure anymore. >> rose: we will have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen.
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captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you began how? >> love and goodness. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something else? >> music is a very powerful thing. >> rose: what's the object lesson here? >> telling his life as it is. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. >> rose: this was the week pope francis came to the united states, russia was building up its forces in syria, and women of color dominated the emmy awards. here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. yogi berraidize at 90. >> the passing of a baseball legend. former new york yankees catcher yogi berra has died. >> at least 310 people are dead after a major stampede at the haag hill grammage to the holy city of mecca. >> rose: pope francis comes to america. >> i am most grateful for the invitation to address this joint
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session of congress in the land of the free and the home of the brave. ( applause ) >> sofi cruz broke through the lines of people. she handed him a letter asking her to protect undocumented workers from mexico. >> rose: ben carson rules out a muslim president. >> i would not advocate that we put a muslim in charge of this nation. >> we support the government of syria in the fight against terrorist aggression. >> a driver recorded a small plane making an emergency landing. >> are you kidding me? >> rose: history is made at the emmys. >> the only thing that separates women of color from anyone else unching a criminalment is investigation of volkswagen after the company admitted to cheating on e.p.a. pollution tests. >> our company was dishonest. with the e.p.a. and the california air resources board. >> rose: scott walker withdraws. >> i encourage other republican
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presidential candidates to consider doing the same so that the voters can focus on a limited number of candidates. >> a bombshell announcement from house speaker john boehner. he's stepping down from congress at the end of october. >> this morning, i woke up and i said my prayers as i always do, and i decided, you know, today is the day i'm going to do it. as simple as that. >> after pope francis' remarks to congress, the notoriously emotional boehner broke down. >> rose: pope francis is halfway through his visit to america. we talk this evening about the man and his mission. >> the world loves him. people love him. and he's going forward on that mandate. it's incredible. as we were saying before, no one speaks badly of this pope effectively. you walk the street of new york and atheists, muslims, many
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people are attracted to him. >> rose: matt? >> credibility, i think. what you see is a man who sees himself first and foremost as a patient in the field health hos, along with the rest of us, a man who needs the grace of god in order to be and to do in the world. that gives him an authenticity, a credibility that is unrivaled among public figures in the world today. >> rose: no question about it. >> he's the most credible pornt planet today. and credibility is the-- that he was able to bring about the rapprochement between cuba and the united states. >> rose: what does he say he wants to accomplish in this visit, allen? >> he hasn't been specific. this is a place you cannot ignore, 70 million catholics, third or fourth largest catholic population in the world. things that are on his agenda that matter to him-- climate change, refugees, the savage
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capitalism, that sort of thing-- this is the place, and he's willing to step into the pelley of the beast. i think he's got a kindred spirit in president obama in some ways, but it's interesting because if you look at the speech, for example, he talked about being an immigrant in the first instance, and then he moves-- so he's got democrats-- his side, maybe. moves into the next item and it's kind of, you could say, a republican thing. he goes right down the middle. he can talk about-- take any of the issues he cares about and not make them political. they're political issues but he doesn't make them political. and i think his whole agenda here is to push the things that matter to him, push them to the forefront, and it's perfect timing. he's got-- the visit was already planned to go to the world family day and it coincides with a big meeting at the u.n. he's going to have all those heads of state. he's looking at that. he can use that to say paris, paris, the paris summit on climate. push your agenda. that's what i want, that's what i need. you guys listen to me.
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all of america, i'm sure, right now, loves pope francis. the world loves pope francis. you go against this man at your peril, no matter what stripe of politician are you, and i think he knows that and he's using it very, very well. he may be a nice, sweet fellow but he's very, very astute, i think, charlie. >> i think that's true. it's interesting. he's astute. he's got the ordinary people, the troops on his side. so whatever the generals think -- >> the troops are with him. >> the troops are with him. >> rose: he's been willing to use it. >> absolutely. something i find fascinating, talking. this holy father, we have pope john paul ii, who was that great figure who opened people's hearts in many ways, traveling the world as a superstar, young-- i remember him going through new york, and he was a real superstar. and you had pope benedict who i think filled people's hearts with doctrine, solid doctrine. and now we have a pope saying,
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"what are we going to do with all of this?" >> rose: pope francis is not the only world leader visiting the states this week. chinese president xi jinping is here for a state visit amid rising tensions over chinese cyber theft. and russian president vladimir putin is coming to address the united nations. he has just upped the stakes in the middle east by ramping up russia's military presence in syria. for more we turn to ian bremmer. he is the founder of eurasia group, a political risk consultancy. >> the chinese feel across the board that we will not treat them as equal marters in, and the americans feel like the chinese are just getting away with-- with reckless abandon and not having rule of law and using their rules and their lack of rules to benefit chinese corporations at the expense of the americans. we're really not coming to agreement here. and we have-- we have a
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political pressure in the united states because it's election season. many presidential candidates talking at great length about this. and the chinese are under more dramatic pressure because they've had all of this market volatility, which has created some criticism of xi jinping at home in china. >> rose: what reaction was appropriate? >> whether their reaction was adequate or sufficient, and certainly xi jinping feeling confident in terms of his position globally but not willing to take criticism domestically and not going to give any quarter publicly to president obama. >> what do you make of the pope's visit? >> more important than xi jinping today. and i think the americans have to like that. i think it was right for obama and biden and the families to show up at andrews. absolutely. make a big deal, get xi jinping off the headlines. they don't agree on everything, but in terms of the headline issues, whether it's climate or social inequality or cuba, these are place where's obama and pope
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francis see very much eye to eye. pope francis' popular approval in the united states across the board vastly higher than those of obama. this is a win. and it's -- >> higher than anybody. >> than anyone. and it's a win for the united states to have 170 world leaders and xi jinping and pope francis all come to america. >> rose: and vladimir putin. >> and vladimir putin, absolutely. >> rose: i assume they'll meet in new york. >> i think they will. i think they will. especially after kerry's statements by the way. >> rose: what did he say? >> he basically downplayed the russian military engagement in syria, said everything they've seen so far is consistent with the protection of russian forces. those are the kinds of -- >> protection of russian forces. you mean the advisers -- >> the base that's already there, the advisers and the rest. that is clearly not true. that is an overstatement, it's an exaggeration. but it's the kind of thing you say as secretary of state if you're trying to clear the deck, create a little space for obama and piewt town have a productive meeting. it's a tough one for the americans. here's what putin has done-- putin understands that the
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europeans are more concerned today. syria and the refugee crise than they are about ukraine. >> rose: he's pleased by that. >> he's very pleased by it, and he has-- you've noticed, that the cease-fire in ukraine now has, miracle of miracles, actually held for the last four weeks. i don't think that is coincidental. i think putin has given the word on the ground to those fighting in favor of the separatists saying let's keep ukraine in stasis. let's keep it quiet. let's get rid of these sanctions, and we can push the americans on syria right now. we have some space. i think putin has played this masterfully, and the americans who have said consistently that bashar al-assad must go are saying bashar al-assad must go but we're flexible on timing. >> rose: that would be john kerry saying that. >> that would be john kerry but that's also been the white house broadry. here's the point-- we don't have the willingness to put the force in place to remove assad ourselves, and no one else is going to do it for us.
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so russia is going to be calling the tune on the ground in syria. >> rose: what does putin want? i spoke with the president in moscow sunday for "60 minutes." so you would like to join the united states in the fight against isis. that's part of why you're there. others think that while that may be part of your goal, you're trying to save the assad administration because they've been losing ground, and the war has not been going well for them. and you're there to rescue them. >> ( translated ): well, you're right. we support the legitimate federagovernment of syria, and y deep belief that any actions to the contrary in order to destroy the legitimate government will create a situation which you can witness now in the other countries of the region or in other regions, for instance in libya, where all the state institutions are dissentigated. we see a similar situation in
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iraq, and there's no other solution to the syrian crisis than strengthening the effective government structures and rendering them help in fighting terrorism. but at the same time, urging them to engage in positive dialogue with the rational opposition and conduct reform. >> rose: asun, some of the coalition partners want to see president assad go first before they will support. >> ( translated ): i'd like to recommend to them the following they should send this message to the syrian people-- it's only the sir cran people who-- syrian people who are entitled to decide who should govern their country and how. >> rose: president assad, you support him. do you support what he is doing in syria and what is happening to those syrian people, those many millions of refugees and
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the hundreds of thousands of people that have been killed, many by his own force? >> ( translated ): well, tell me what, do you think about those who support opposition, and mainly the terrorist organizations, only in order to oust assad without thinking about what will happen to the country after all the government institutions have been demolished? today, you have repeatedly said that assad is fighting against his own population. but look at those who are in control of 60% of the territory in syria. it's controlled by either isis or by others. >> rose: al-nusra. >> such as al-nusra and other terrorist organizations. they're recognized as terrorist organizations by the united states, by other states, and by the united nations. credited wih
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reducing crime, but some of his policies, like stop and frisk, drew fire, and lawsuits for targeting minorities. he writes about all of that in a new book. it is called "vim lance: my life serving america and protecting its empire city." >> the incidents in ferguson and other high-profile events have raised the specter of schism between the police and some members of the community, usually communities of color. now, i think, from my vantage point of being in the police department, being in law enforcement almost 50 years, that generally speaking, relations between minority communities and the police are better than than they have been in many years. however, when you have this bubble, these types of things, it sets it back.
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no question about it. so that's where we are now. >> rose: you wonder what it is that makes those who are the way they are. is it the lack of training? is it the lack of sensitivity? is it not simply being of the right temperament to be a police officer? >> yeah, i think it's complex. some of them are just bad decisions made quickly and it was just the wrong decision. i think some of it has to do with selection. i don't think as a profession that we do a good enough job in selecting people to become police officers. we give awesome power to police officers, literally the life or death. we don't even require a college degree for that. whereas we require a college degree for virtually every teacher in america. so i think we should up the standards in that regard. i think, also, we should drill down in much more effectively on psychological testing. who wants to become a police officer? let's look at bullying, for instance. what's the effect of having been
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bullied or being a bully and this person becomes a police officer? i don't know the answer to that, but i think we need much more work in that regard. >> rose: when you look back at your term and most recently as commissioner, would you do anything different? would you-- have you conclude to different conclusions having time to reflect on what happened during your tenure? >> not really. i think i reflect on it in putting this book together, and on the big decisions. no, i pretty much would do everything that we did. i think, as you said before, when bloomberg administration left, we had record low murders, record low shootings, record low shootings by police officers, a 70% approval rating of the department. i had a 75% personal approval rating. this is after 12 years or 11 and a half years when the poll was taken. >> rose: to you think policemen in new york city are operating under a different
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understanding of where and how they should perform their job? >> well, i think some of the signals that have been given to police officers in new york city are signals that say, "hey, hesitate, pull back," that sort of thing. we had the stop and frisk or stop, question, and frisk lawsuit in the city that ultimately resulted in a monitor. we have an inspector general that was put in place by the city council, even though there are almost 1,000 officers doing internal investigations in the department. there are five district attorneys in new york city. there are two u.s. attorneys in new york city. there's a mayor's commission to combat police corruption. but i think signals, yes, have been to hold back, and i think ultimately, that will result in crime going up.
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>> rose: don henley was a founding member of the eagles and helped define the music of a generation. his hit songs have included "hotel" california, "desperado" dirty laundry. now he is set to release cass county. >> rose: "hotel california." >> that's our best known song, all over the world, even in china, in the remote regioning of china. i have a great story about that. i went back year in the 80s with the care organization to the jungles of honduras, and they took us, me and a group of friends from los angeles, they took us out into the middle of nowhere. we landed in one of the major cities-- i forget which one it was-- and drove for hours in jeeps up the mountainsides on these roads that were so narrow i was afraid that the right tire of actually off the edge of th the-- and we drove for what seemed like hours up to the top
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of a mountain where there was a wildlife preserve. but there was some woman up there who was sort of a cult leader. she had taken her tribe of people and moved them up to that mountaintop, and they lived up there without electricity and without plumbing and running water, and literally in grass huts. and we had been there in that little village, typy little village, with a few people for about 10 minutes, and a young man disappeared into one of those grass huts and came out holding an old cassette player boombox with a cassette in it and pointed to it and he pointed to me and he said, "you." and i looked at it, and it was "hotel california." and these people didn't even have electricity. i guess the thing ran on batteries. >> rose: they wound it up. >> there's no place i can go on the plan tote escape. >> rose: and what does that mean to you? >> well, it's-- it's-- i don't
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know. i mean, it's-- being on the inside looking out, it's very difficult to-- it's-- it means that music is a very powerful thing that transends cultural and political boundaries and international-- geographic boundaries. music is i think one of america's most important exports because it still brings people together who have very different lifestyles and very different beliefs, and i think that that's something we should never forget in our culture is what a powerful bonding force-- the fact that we were able to play in moscow, for example, and we played in cape town. we played in dubai. and the fact that we were able to do that and got permission from the chinese government. they sent two guys around with-- we had two guys following us. we laughed and we said, "we're not sure if they're here to protect us or if they're here to
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protect the chinese from us." >> rose: that's great. >> so it's-- music is a very powerful thing that-- and i'm just grateful that i could be a part of creating part of the sounded track of my time. i just feel very grateful for that. >> rose: richard gere is one of hollywood's most successful and enduring actors, but during the shooting of his latest film he says hundreds of new yorkers literally walked right by him without noticing. the film "time out of mind," tackles the invisibility of homelessness. he plays george hammon, a man living on the street. >> well, it was a miracle it got made because this is not an easy subject. >> rose: and you had it for what? >> i bought this script-- i lose
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track-- 12 years ago, something like that. and knew there was a movie in here that i wanted to make. and it wasn't obvious in the script what to do with this. but there was just something that i could feel, and there-- i was flailing around to describe what i saw in this thing. and i saw a review in the "new york times" of a book by a homeless guy, "cadillac man," and it was called "land of lost souls." and i bought the book, and read it, and i said, well, this is the way to make a movie. this is it. it's not-- it's not sentimental. it's not drama in that usual sense. one thing evidence very happy about when i saw the first rough cut. roaren wanted space to do this. i produced a movie and we worked incredibly closely on this, like soul brothers on this. he finally showed me a rough cut he was happy with, and i was
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delighted for many reasons-- one, it really was the movie that i had wanted to make. but it also, by the end of it, i forgot the guy was homeless. that wasn't the issue. it was a deeper kind of yearning for place that i was interested in. they think we're clowns! we're cartoons. >> i'm a clown now. >> you and me, we're cartoons. >> okay, i'm a cartoon. >> a more spiritual, cosmic voyage, a yearning for place, for connection, for family, for tribe. where is my place have i am valued, where i am precious? >> rose: here is a look at the week ahead. sunday is the day pope francis celebrate mass in philadelphia. monday is the opening of the general debate session at the united nations. tuesday is the opening of paris
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fashion week's ready-to-wear collections. wednesday is the first day of the woodstock film festival in woodstock, new york. thursday is the national day holiday in china. fridays is the first day of the austin city limits musical festival. saturday is the annual unity day holiday in germany. and here is what's new for your weekend: robert de niro and anne hathaway are in theaters with "the intern." >> it's moments like this when you need somebody you know you can count on because you're my-- >> intern. >> well, i was going to say intern/best friend. ♪ i got a little bit >> rose: arcade fire releases a remixed edition of its album "reflector." and i'll have my interview of vladimir putin on sunday's season premiere of "60 minutes."
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before we leave you tonight, we pause to remember yogi berra, the great catcher for the new york yankees died tuesday. he was 90. he will be remembered for his unique abilities as a player and for his unusual command of the english language. what's your favorite? >> well, i guess it ain't over till it's over. and also when you come to the fork in the road, take it. ( laughter ) you can't hit and think at the same time. >> rose: go ahead! you're doing very well. what are some of the others. >> i'd still be asleep if you didn't wake me. >> rose: "i'd still be asleep if you didn't wake me." >> it gets dark early out here. >> rose: that's "charlie rose: the week" for this week. on behalf of all of us here, thank you for watching. i'm charlie rose. we'll see you next time.
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